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Comrade 04/06/2020 (Mon) 16:42:11 No. 796
Why is setting this piece of shit up so fucking difficult? Come to think of it? What the fuck are computers so fucking difficult? It seems everything I do on a god damn computer these days breaks something, or, I didn't do it right, or it wasn't the right architecture, or, what ever the fuck man. Seriously, this shit has gotten out of hand. It shouldn't be this god damn hard to have freedom in my own fucking home.
>Picks the most difficult OS there is for the meme You set yourself up for this. Now proceed compiling a free OS from scratch. And harden everything. The correct way in one go, for the muscle memory.
>>796 Stop falling for memes and install Alpine. It's a dozen times faster than any gentoo config. alpinelinux.org
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>>799 Literally the only thing I can get to work on my toaster right now is fucking lubuntu. Just kill me. I want off debian.
>>807 Debian itself isn't that bad.
>>807 Puppy or Tinycore then. >>808 Yes it is. The package manager is atrocious. Very slow, overcomplicated and has shit default settings and configurations.
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>>810 No you don't understand. Nothing *but* lubuntu will show up on the boot menu for some reason. I tried DSL and shit like that just isn't visible. >>808 It's really nothing against debian. I am simply bored with it and want to try something new and different. That's why I want to go with Gentoo. Also, what's GNU/Hurd kernal I have been hearing about?
>>812 >Also, what's GNU/Hurd kernal I have been hearing about? three-decade-long development hell. the last update was 0.9 in 2016. it's probably not worth looking into, considering it's has so little usage beyond testers and obsessive gnufags. in fact I am pretty sure the vast majority of obsessive gnufags just use libre Linux distros anyway because why give a fuck about this incredibly dead project.
>It shouldn't be this god damn hard to have freedom in my own fucking home. The fact of the matter is that such freedoms aren't free. You have invest varying amounts of time at the costs of flexibility and freedom. If you want maximum flexibility and freedom ... you have to write your own toolchain and OS. That's my long term plan, personally. I started reading up on the subject on and off after I saw that an unmedicated schizophrenic managed to do so. RIP Terry.
If you want a completely independent distro that [just works] try Solus. It may not have the software libraries of larger distributions but it makes up for it in stability and you can just install flatpaks anyway if what you want isn't in the Solus repositories. Give it a try, OP. If you're new to GNU/Linux, you may find it pleasantly surprising.
Just try void
>>812 >Nothing *but* lubuntu will show up on the boot menu for some reason. Maybe you're booting UEFI but installing for BIOS, or visa versa.
>>818 I am loading UEFI but when I flip it to legacy nothing works either. When shit is in legacy I can get it to recognize the boot device but I can/t actually get the installers to run properly. What do you mean by "installing for bios? I am unfamiliar with this terminology.
>>822 Legacy mode is BIOS. By installing for bios i meant installing the system in BIOS. What other distros have you tried installing?
>>824 Everything under the sun; antix, gentoo, Damn Small Linux, absolute, hyperbola, parabola, Trisquel, literally none of them would work properly.
>>825 When you installed antiX in UEFI, did you create an esp partition? The problem might be the way you're creating a usb live image, it sometimes causes trouble when i create a live usb.
>>840 I couldn't even make it to the partition manager. Also, it wouldn't let me install it in UEFI only in legacy.
>>796 >It shouldn't be this god damn hard to have freedom in my own fucking home. There is literally no reason you had to choose Gentoo to have "freedom" unless you're paranoid enough that you don't trust binary package distros, in which case GuixSD is both easier to use AND more secure because it's immune to compiler poisoning attacks.
>>812 GNU HURD is a microkernel that features transparent application virtualization, fine-grained permissions which allows unprivileged users to do many things like mounting filesystems, "translators" which are programs that transparently convert arbitrary data and expose it as virtual filesystems, and a multiserver design that allows any services to crash or be replaced without bringing donw the system. It has no device drivers, audio, 64-bit, or SMP at the moment, so you're a brave man if you try to use it.
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>>888 I was reading that and thinking the design of HURD would lend itself to SSI and https://github.com/BrentBaccala/hurd Holy shit it exists
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>>807 Why do you hate Debian? I use Arch and while I'm happy with it (building up your system with only what you need is nice), I miss apt. Pacman is a bit convoluted imo. I installed Lubuntu in my parents' laptop and it works fine.
>>889 Goddamn I would love to get that upstreamed. I wonder what the hurd devs think about it. They might not like it because it's written in C++. I should ask on the IRC sometime.
>>1462 Even if they don't take the code itself it looks like a method to finally support SMT w/ SSI added on top for free
all these people recommending their debian clones missed OP's goal >>812 >It's really nothing against debian. >I am simply bored with it and want to try something new and different. >That's why I want to go with Gentoo. OP, as a person who installed Gentoo on multiple systems including a Thinkpad T480s, W520, and a Dell T1650 and had to go to great lengths to make sure the kernel and BIOS settings operate properly I can probably help you. In all likelihood you have a problem with the boot settings in GRUB that you will need to modify in a text file by hand, depending on your disk setup. the #1 issue I run into when setting up Gentoo is not using uuids for fstab. are you able to verify whether or not you've done this? https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Fstab
>>807 Hey, if the issue's WIFI, you could post the output of lspci -vvv and the laptop's name and I'll fetch all the source files you need to compile the drivers. Hell, I'd compile them myself if you'd be willing to trust a random anon.


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