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Fediverse general Comrade 11/03/2020 (Tue) 21:14:38 No. 5771
Does /tech/ participate in the Fediverse? Seems to me that this is the sort of social media we should be trying to get people into, even if social media itself is kinda trash. I've always disliked social media, but after the news at >>>/leftypol/1066439, I've been considering getting into the Fediverse. You see, I would like the people who DO use social media (basically everyone) to be on better platforms, but I feel I cannot demand that from them if I cannot even use them myself. For instance, it would be disingenuous to ask Comrade Cockshott to start his presence in Mastodon after getting banned from fedbook if I could not be there to follow him and boost his follower stats. So.. So, /tech/, any thoughts on the Fediverse? What are some good instances and communities I could join? What are some people I should be following? What implementations are better, Pleroma, Mastodon, something else? Also fediverse general.
Also, for anyone who is not familiar with the Fediverse: >The Fediverse is an ensemble of federated (i.e. interconnected) servers that are used for web publishing, social networking, microblogging, blogging and file hosting, but which, while independently hosted, can communicate with each other. On different servers (instances), users can create accounts. These accounts are able to communicate over the boundaries of the instances because the software running on the servers supports one or more communication protocols which follow an open standard. Adapted from the Wikipedia entry on "fediverse" Example networks would be Mastodon, Pleroma and Diaspora. Here you can browse a list of some (officially endorsed) Mastodon instances: https://joinmastodon.org/communities/ . Note these are not *all* existing instances.
Cockshott wasn't actually banned tho
I don't really care about that other stuff but I'm really excited for the future of PeerTube.
>>5773 That's good to hear. Guess I shouldn't have speedread through the thread. Still, this discussion is relevant, we cannot rely on proprietary corporate platforms for our communication. We know anyone could get banned at any moment. Even happened to my local org's fb page. >>5776 Peertube is very promising indeed. Allowing communities to set up their own site for video sharing is a great way to get people out of YouTube. Especially since the main problem in getting people to migrate to other places like BitChute and LBRY is that they're filled with shitty cryptoscam and conspiratard content. PeerTube avoids that problem. Got any good instances or channels to share?
>>5779 Not the anon that you are replying to, but this one is run by sub.media and friends: https://kolektiva.media/videos/local
>>5779 >Especially since the main problem in getting people to migrate to other places like BitChute and LBRY is that they're filled with shitty cryptoscam and conspiratard content. That's only part of the problem. The real issue at hand is just about everyone who has attempted to be an alternative to Youtube in the past was intent on copying their business model. The problem is Youtube for the longest time actually operated at a loss in order to strangle the competition. In doing so they were able to provide greater bandwidth and higher transcoding service in doing so. Only very recently has Youtube finally sought to capitalize on their monopoly with a deluge of aggressive ads and pay-for-movies schemes. Youtube competitors trying to be businesses find themselves in a battle they cannot possibly win. Vimeo is practically the only one that was about to carve out a small niche for documentary and film students by being a paid service for them--this has allowed them to subsidize the free users with better quality and transcoding standards for than Youtube. But decentralized alternatives like PeerTube finally provide a way around this conundrum: by distributing the hosting load among many independent servers and the users themselves it allows a community of non-profit-seeking peers to form that can sustain itself. At the moment PeerTube needs more transcoding options for instance owners to take advantage of this freedom (in particular I want to see a PeerTube instance that gives its users the freedom to use no transcoding at all, instead relying on file size limits), but this is a feature that can be added very easily (perhaps even trivially since it's open source) and conversations with the main developer suggest they might get around to it eventually. The added bonus to all of this of course censorship resistance. Lainchan used to have a comfy PeerTube instance but it died early last year and nobody has heard from its owner since.
>>5780 Nice. I've seen this instance before, but lost the link. Thank you for posting it. >>5781 >That's only part of the problem. True. I immediately regretted saying "the main problem" as soon as I saw my final post. There's a lot more involved here. >The real issue at hand is just about everyone who has attempted to be an alternative to Youtube in the past was intent on copying their business model. That is a very good point. Right now services like LBRY are very intent on shilling their business model, which is just YouTube with cryptocurrencies. Of course, if a service like this were to surpass YouTube (unlikely, as you pointed out), it would just develop the same problems YouTube currently has. I'm looking through a list PeerTube instances, will post any content I personally enjoy here.
>>5782 >if a service like this were to surpass YouTube (unlikely, as you pointed out), it would just develop the same problems YouTube currently has. Exactly! I've spent well over a decade now investigating, researching, and testing out YouTube alternative, hoping to fine that one best alternative to migrate all my shit to and always ending up disappointed in the end. It took me ages to figure out why they don't exist. Hopefully more can realize the problem is systemic now, because within that lies a solution.
GNU Social vs Pleroma? For a private, invite-only social network.
>>5771 StatusNet oldie here. It's been interesting to see the developments in the fediverse over the years. One unfortunate thing has been Eugen letting himself get pushed around by radlibs. He has forgotten that users are not important, especially not whiny ones that don't contribute. >>5869 Pleroma development was more active last time I checked, but GNU Social has had more features for a longer time. GNU Social also has !groups, which neither Mastodon nor Pleroma have last time I checked. There is an ActivityPub plugin for GS in the works, or maybe it's even finished.
>>5872 So stablity/maturity-wise, GNU Social? I want something that will just work. I don't need fancy features. What attracts me to Pleroma, however, is Elixir. I'm guessing Pleroma can scale very well. Can Pleroma not federate and have a private server? Mastodon and diaspora can't do this.
>>5873 >Can Pleroma not federate and have a private server? Mastodon and diaspora can't do this. Should be possible, but I'd ask on IRC about it. I'm pretty sure you can disable federation with Mastodon and Diaspora too if you really want to. As for GS vs Pleroma, Pleroma has the benefit if being written in a based language like Erlang.
>>5874 >Pleroma has the benefit if being written in a based language like Erlang. Links to project page and current code repository plz
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>>5874 Looking into it, it seems Pleroma has invites, but it's not that simple to implement. Pleroma and Mastodon seem made for federation, and it looks hard to make them not federate. While GNU Social seems to have that option in its configuration from the start and you can build your site as a private, non-federated, invite-only network.
>>5878 https://docs.pleroma.social/backend/configuration/cheatsheet/ > federating: Enable federation with other instances. Seems pretty easy to me.
>>5879 You're right! I guess all that is left is to try both GNU Social and Pleroma and see which one fits the best. Thanks.
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Are there any lefty PeerTube instances that aren't kolektiva.media (anarchist focused)? I have some videos I want to upload, and every other instance I can find is tech/free software focused.
>>5956 Bunkerchan instance when?
>>5958 WE GOTTA MAKE IT HAPPEN PEOPLE
>>5956 Well, continuing off of this: I ended up just dumping the videos in some """breadtube""" instance, since it seemed the most general leftist out of the ones I found, despite them specifically talking about anarchism in the about page, but not communism in general. I hope my content is allowed to stay there. Link is https://watch.breadtube.tv/ for anyone interested. >>5958 We can surely hope. Bunkerchan peertube would be really great. Could call it bunkerchannel, bunkertube or something like that.
>>5958 I'm listening but I don't see what we would put on it. We don't really have 'leftypol content' at this point. We would have to develop a video production base first.
>>6426 webms
>>6427 webms are in webm format so they can be uploaded to chans and shared that way. they're short videos, not suitable for a youtube-like platform, and definitely not worth spending money on when they can be hosted elsewhere for free and have even more reach than on an obscure peertube instance.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2020/11/18/youtube-will-now-show-ads-on-all-videos-even-if-creators-dont-want-them/ Is it time to start shilling PeerTube like crazy? I need to finally settle on an instance to move all my video game stuff to, because I sure as fuck did not make a Youtube account in 2006 to spam people with ads.
>participating in anything with "fed" in the name fuck off cianiggas
>>6450 Really makes you think!

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