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Linux, BSD setups Comrade 08/09/2019 (Fri) 21:33:50 No. 2179
Discuss what's your setup and collection of applications on your personal computers, smartphones, embedded devices, Industrial equipment, etc. for opsec that other anons could use.
Gnu radio for police chatter?
raspberry pi gps with security features?
Special ECM equipment you're willing to show?
Post them here.
>>333
im on a MAC
like a proper hipster web dev
libre shit aside macos is best os because 95% of the time you can treat it as a linux distro. Except one that is way more mature than all the others where you never have to fuck around with the annoying shit like drivers

For work servers I use ubuntu (or flavors) because it just werks

People who have installing random linux distros as a hobby are cringe as fuck unless they are actual kernel/distro devs
>>334

What does OSX ecosystem offer that FOSS cannot during web app development? I know some people working on design related fields are forced to use proprietary shits but aren't you just writing javascript on sublime? prz don't spergout I never got hired to do programming so not sure what the hell you have to go through to survive

>>347

post systemd era distro hopping is pointless for sure but don't bully GUIX/gentoo/arch fags
>>347
>People who have installing random linux distros as a hobby are cringe as fuck unless they are actual kernel/distro devs
MacOS:
- hardware dependent (can't install it on any reasonably-priced hardware)
- heavily proprietary (esp. in userspace, yes the kernel is foss)
- shitty package managers and repos, not treated first-class (I love updating everything through a single, good package manager in Linux)
- Only one option for DE/WM (it is nice in many ways, but for example, tiling and resizing are retarded in MacOS. KDE is better for me)
- Some really shitty default apps (the terminal, file manager, etc)

Linux:
- All the usual benefits people mention
- Works on my machine

So what's up with the petty booj elitism? Can't you just humbly use MacOS and accept that Linux is a fine daily driver for many people?
>>348
the answer is that macos is basically a unix that 'just works'. The prevalence of it in web dev is due to the whole ruby on rails movement that occured from 2007->2013, rails was 150% easier to install on mac (homebrew, etc.) than windows that massive amounts of devs switched off windows to mac.

I still have a windows for gaming, and i use a mac for web dev.

advantages:

I don't have to fiddle around with crappy afterthought tier graphics drivers that nvidia/amd release for the floss world that break a few upgrades later.

Wider usage means more programs written for it + alot of linux software is easily ported to it cuz its also a unix.

The only advantage of FOSS is that the dev environment is similar to prod, but DOCKER solves that anyway

The only way id consider going to linux is in a dedicated system where the vendor has pretested the hardware for compatibility I.E. SYSTEM76
https://system76.com/
I just bought a crank and solar powered radio to see if I could pick up Voice of Korea on shortwave.
>>352
>I don't have to fiddle around with crappy afterthought tier graphics drivers that nvidia/amd release for the floss world that break a few upgrades later.
AMD and Intel GPUs don't have that problem any more.
>>348
Not sure about web app development but for back end / big data development it's not so much about the tools for the job itself, but everything else.

It's nice never having to fuck around with df to get some peripheral to work or to spend hours googling how to get your wifi chipset firmware to work, some of the default software is really good, also it's compatible with more commercial software than linux is.

>>351
>hardware dependent (can't install it on any reasonably-priced hardware)
Yes although the plus side of this is that you never have compatibility issues and the hardware is quite nice although getting worse over time
>heavily proprietary (esp. in userspace, yes the kernel is foss)
This is valid criticism and I agree. However most of the software that you will (or at least I do) interact with directly, the software that you would actually want to know how it works to solve issues that arise, is open source. Keep in mind macos also uses BSD utils. And being POSIX compliant you have a very good selection of open source userspace applications
>shitty package managers and repos, not treated first-class
>Only one option for DE/WM
Homebrew works fine for me, Magnet works for me. I honestly don't think about these too often
>Some really shitty default apps
This is true

>So what's up with the petty booj elitism? Can't you just humbly use MacOS and accept that Linux is a fine daily driver for many people?
I do accept that and don't mean to be elitist, however I also think that if you can spare a few hundred dollars extra, macos is a good value proposition. And many people need to use commercial software that isn't supported on linux for daily stuff.
>>352

Some laptop vendors like lenovo is offering Ubuntu LTS as possible alternative for default OS so hopefully we will see more petite bourgeoisie shitposting on Ubuntu machines.
>>359
Lots of laptops work fine, yeah. Dell, Thinkpads, etc. And most mainstream desktops, even new ones, are well-supported. Sometimes there's just a little problem, like needing to turn off C-states.
>>354
and nvidia still does + its most of the market now
>>360
a few years ago UEFI + windows had problems dual booting ubuntu
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>>333
Used to run Mint for my daily, but fuck point releases.

I tried running Tumbleweed which was a mistake.

Now I'm on Manjaro Cinnamon and I haven't had a problem I didn't cause by being a fuck up.

KDE is weird and eww Qt, Gnome 3 looks like fisher price, Moksha looks like if OS X had holdover elements from OS 9 and the devs were retarded, Pantheon/ElementaryOS is worse for update schedules, MATE seems like an immature Cinnamon, Maynard is a joke, Enlightenment looks like a 14 year old designed it while on a Monster energy drink binge, and LOL Unity

Tiling managers look comfy but have that annoying learning curve. I might try out awesome or dwm in a VM.

Deepin, Xfce, and Budgie all look nice, but I think I'm pretty stuck with Cinnamon.
I'm on gentoo linux
like a human being and not a soul sucking parasite
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>>366
>the gentoo meme
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>>367
Hey, it's your kernel developer, let's go bowling.
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>>362
Nvidia, as far as I know, still is only tolerable if you use the proprietary drivers. Which are only really smooth to use on a few mainstream distros. As well, I had screen tearing problems with Nvidia in my experience with a gtx 750. The free drivers for intel and AMD are seamless as they are in the kernel, and are well-supported.
Did you know that password protection on Win95 can be circumvented by pressing escape? The only thing it still blocks then is printing. Moved on to Win98 and never looked back Is Salix OS good?
>>402
>Is Salix OS good?
If slackware and Xfce is your kink, yes.
>>333

I myself tend to use Debian with XFCE. I'm kind of a retro computer interface guy and I love the classic GUIs from 1990's OS like Windows 3.1, CDE, Windows 95 and others like that.

I even built my computer and have been using Linux for over 3 years now. I do tend to use the Nvidia drivers to mostly play my games on Linux. I started with Ubuntu and had it dual boot with windows, I eventually uninstalled windows completely and then switched over to Debian where I've been now for almost two years now.
I'm thinking of installing FreeBSD on my ancient Dell desktop from over a decade ago for my shitposting needs. If the emulator ports like dosbox work ok on the machine, that's just a bonus.
>>333
I'm a FreeBSD guy and I mostly use FreeBSD on my desktop with KDE. These days I use stock Ubuntu 19.04 on my laptop more and it serves me very well as I mostly live inside firefox and emacs.
>>362
>and nvidia still does
So? How's the Nvidia support in MacOS?

>its most of the market now
Porky rationale.
Reminder that BSD is a cuck license that doesn't respect your freedom.
>>585
The GPL doesn't respect your freedom, BSD licenses are as free as they could be and are easy to modify to add clauses of non-profitability and such.

No GPL software could be used with software with a non-profitability clause, which makes the GPL counter-revolutionary.
>>592
>BSD licenses are as free as they could be and are easy to modify to add clauses of non-profitability and such.
Yeah, freedom for the developers, not freedom for the users. Nothing is stopping a company taking BSD code, making it proprietary and selling it, while not giving anything back to the original developers. This is what the Sony did with the playstation and what companies continue to do.

>No GPL software could be used with software with a non-profitability clause, which makes the GPL counter-revolutionary.
Except every GPL'd software, free or paid, has to include the source code. You can take that source code, name the software differently and release it for free to the masses. Making GPL, in fact, revolutionary. It protects the developer (worker) against those who'd wish to exploit them by taking their work, making a profit and not contributing back.
>>596
Note that really we need to use AGPL these days, since everything's running on servers.
New to security, but I recently purchased a Xiaomi Redmi note 7.
Was wondering what Android/lineage build you guys would recommend, something thats reasonably secure (At this point just worried about companies stealing my metadata) and want to get rid of the adds that keep coming up in my shitty international version of android they've given me
>>746
>Was wondering what Android/lineage build you guys would recommend, something thats reasonably secure (At this point just worried about companies stealing my metadata) and want to get rid of the adds that keep coming up in my shitty international version of android they've given me.
There is no such thing as a secure cell phone. Replicant is the closest you can get with android, but your device is not supported: https://replicant.us Looking around on XDA for you it seems like all your options are roughly equivalent in terms of security. Just get a official rom I guess.

>Cell phones are tracking and surveillance devices. They all enable the phone system to record where the user goes, and many (perhaps all) can be remotely converted into listening devices.
>>746
There is no such thing as a secure smart phone, install lineage OS on it to have a non shit version of linux, and turn it off when it doesn't need to be on, leave it at home when you can
>>823
*non shit version of android
Don't commodify your personal information. Everything is on a permanent record. Woke leftists are crypto-anarchists. Cyberpunk is now! Stop blocking Tor users!

>Computer:
OS: When your not into QubesOS, you should consider using a hardened Debian with VirtualBox running Whonix and for more OpSec running Tails from an USB-Stick.
Mail: Thunderbird with Enigmail and TorBirdy; provider: RiseUp, Autistici, posteo, protonmail, tutanota, disroot etc
Password manager: KeePassXC
Encryption: zuluCrypt
PGP: gpa or Kleopatra
Browser addons: uBlock, uMatrix, https everywhere, decentraleyes, Privaqcy Badger, User Agent Switcher, CanvasBlocker, Cookie Auto Delete
Cloud: NextCloud
PDF: Okular
Office: LibreOffice

>Smartphone:
OS: When you don't have a Google Pixel running GrapheneOS you should get LineageOS or any non-Google privacy enhancing AOSP. See https://www.xda-developers.com/
VPN Mode: channel everything through Tor via Orbot
Browser: Tor Browser, Firefox Klar (when you don't have
App Store: F-Droid (, Aurora, Yalp -> run Google Play Store apps only isolated through Working Profiles via Shelter)
Mail: K9
PGP: OpenKeychain
Adblock: Blokada
Spoofing: NetGuard, Private Location, Wi-Fi Privacy Police, MacChanger, SnoopSnitch
Messengers: Briar, Signal, Wire, Riot.im, TRIfA
Camera: ObscuraCam
Maps: OsmAnd~
Text: Markor, LibreOffice Viewer, muPDF
>>879
>RiseUp
They literally read your fucking e-mails to maintain their censorious terms of service.

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