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🦅🗽 /USApol/ - United States Politics 💵🏈 Anonymous 05/26/2020 (Tue) 19:10:57 No. 531727 [Reply] [Last]
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>>905759 ...yeah, but it's kinda hard to do without tech..
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>>905736 >transhumanism is fundamentally anarchist and leftist
>>905759 nigga how are robots even real ahahaha like just use an EMP ahahaha
>>905725 No anon, you’re gonna die one day.
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>>905765 I was born in the same century genetic engineering came about, I have a fighting chance, at least.

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The Rise of Luddism against Robotics Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 12:24:44 No. 903272 [Reply] [Last]
This video has been making the rounds on Twitter and it's almost amazing the number of luddites there are out there when it comes to robotics. People saying that it's going to kill people, that it should be bashed or shot on sight or that it's a surveillance scheme. Spot is just a dog bot you can buy yourself if you have $75k burning a hole in your pocket. A luxury good to be sure, but it's no Skynet. It should be noted that Boston Dynamics, which developed Spot, IS receiving DARPA money and IS, therefore, likely working on some kind of military drone, but this isn't it. It's just a dog bot, it isn't equipped with weapons and it's less of a possible surveillance device than your phone (the flying drones that you already see everywhere are pretty much the gold standard when it comes to surveillance robots, and they didn't spark this much paranoia). Why do people have this level of paranoia for this specific kind of robotics? Have people simply been watching too much sci-fi? Is there an "uncanny valley" effect going on because Spot moves more organically, like a dog, than more traditional depictions of robots as rigid and mechanical? Or are these robots being turned into "Marie Antoinettes", symbolically representing a cold political machine ready to tread them underfoot?
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>>905042 Cranes are stationary and the bird bot isn't. The counterweight has to account for the whole robot, not just the manipulator arm.
>>904927 I would destroy those things if I saw them.
>>903272 I think these things are kind of cute. I like these robots, and would like to own one at some juncture although I know I will never be able to afford it.
>>905701 Just get a dog.
>>905756 Nah a dog demand reciprocation and love, I don't care about that shit I want this for the cool factor.

Is the Burger military actually WEAKER than we've been led to believe? Anonymous 09/27/2020 (Sun) 00:50:59 No. 905409 [Reply] [Last]
I don't think Americans have ever once fought an equal in a war, the closest they've even gotten was Britain, Germany, and Japan, and each of those countries were kneecapped during the confrontation Brits >Burgers luck out since they're fighting home turf while Brits are an ocean (month's trip) away >Also half of Britain's enemies team up with Burger rebels, biggest battle of the war isn't even in the colonies <Burgers still barely win Brits round 2 >Read above <White House gets burned down Plains wars >Indigenous peoples present a formidable enemy to the burgers >Take a century to defeat primarily via guile and deception >Have superior weaponry and state organization <Still get threatened by disunited peoples nearly wiped out by plague The Civil War >Literally the Burger War >Southern plantation owners think good old boys, hot pies, and sweet tea can beat industrial production, steam engine trains, bolt action rifles, and the gatling gun <Deadliest american war is against themselves

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>>905742 don't play with me. does the shit work or not? is the royal burger king fleet at actual risk of getting BTFO if they overstep? last time I brought this up, we just reached the conclusion that the technology is theoretically sound, but is currently too reliant on satellite and other targeting solutions for a stealthy first strike.
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>>905745 >You can probably understand why I am not going to give a lot of details on what you're asking for my own safety in this environment, especially if you happen to emit radiant light. Lol. Says the literal fucking fed. Only one of us hasn't taken an oath to the constitution and the president. What an aboslute dipshit faggot as can be expected from a jarhead. >>905703 >Ask me anything about this topic, comrades. <Except for anything more than what I already said in my first post.
>>905745 >I just want to reiterate that I was just a ground pounder. I had a high school education, and I was 21 when I set foot on foreign soil. I can't really give you answers like this, unless you're trolling in which case fair deal. Heh, I was half trolling. I suspect the answer is yes since MBTs are not at all well protected from the side and the M1 ammo stowage compartment is designed to take hits and explode outwards to minimize chance of crew casualties.
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>>905760 >what else can I do to ensure disaffected veterans don't share their knowledge of our organizations with subversive bolsheviks?
>>905740 Carriers are useful for bullying defenseless third world nations but in a hypothetical war with China it would be far too dangerous to bring them within range of Chinese missiles. As such USN submarines would likely undertake the main offensive actions, and China unfortunately still has a long way to go in anti-submarine warfare capabilities, while the American submarine fleet is only matched in quality by the Royal Navy (who has a chance of participating in the war on the US side, depending on the year and circumstances).

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What kind of right-wing grifter would you be? Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 17:39:37 No. 904016 [Reply] [Last]
Let's say you are on the verge of starvation/homelessness. Your last resort: faking your political views to grift rightoids. What would be your niche?
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>>905269 >the romans were xenophobic as hell no they weren't
>>905285 My best guess would be repeating the creationism versus Atheism debates that used to be all the rage way back in he early days of yotube. Eventually they got driven off after bush and then it was SJW's this or that for like 6 years.
>>905295 they absolutely were, they stereotyped bordering nations to hell and borrowed the word barbarian from greek to describe them
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>>904016 Analyzing actual left-wing theory but being constantly angry and unreasonably harsh about it. Also loud. One thing that turned me away from them was specifically the fact they they seemed too emotional and irrational towards their subjects, while only engaging their topics (or rather "attacked") smugly and on a very skin-deep level. If I can present in-depth topics to boring internet-rightards, them paying me money for being emotional and stupid online is a pure victory. It'd be me getting them to interact with actual theory while painting opponents of said theories as irrational morons incapable of understanding them. I hope this whole thread isn't some kind of trick.
>>904147 >So I'd try to be the youtube Gorbachev for the right. Using the best counter revolutionary strategies from the last days of the USSR, I'd slowly turn their ideology against them. First, I'd use Hayek to smash the free trade argument. Then, I'd use Adam Smith to smash Hayek. Finally, I'd use Mussolini or Hitler to completely shatter any delusions they'd have about capitalism, bringing the absolute insectoids that constitute the right wingers into some sort of NazBol ideology. More like right-wing Yakovlev. Based.

Meet the main players leading the white revolution in America Anonymous 09/27/2020 (Sun) 02:32:26 No. 905620 [Reply] [Last]
So this is what we're supposed to be afraid of? LOL.
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>>905620 Don't scoff at them, do whatever necessary to annihilate them and I won't go into what I mean by that. "Eliminate the Prince of Hell, Liberate the Little Devil".
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>>905667 >Is that David Duke? Ah so it is. >>905628 >>905676
>>905620 is that erik striker in the helmet?
>>905718 nvm, it is.
I'll single handedly fight all of these guys. Spare my comrades... leave them out of this... I'll go to their planet and do battle with every Nazi forever.

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Anyone care to make up a graphic to go with this? Anonymous 09/20/2020 (Sun) 20:57:12 No. 886148 [Reply] [Last]
>Kyle Rittenhouse, also known by his real name Kahohl "Muhammad" bin Rittari, was part of a muslim rape gang that Rosenbaum was undercover infiltrating under the order of attourney general william barr. While Rosenbaum was on his way to the Kenosha FBI field office to report his findings and file a warrant, rittenhouse ambushed him and killed him under cover of night. The Deep State then fabricated court documents to smear rosenbaum as a pedophile, but the FBI can't publicly deny it without putting their other agents at risk. >#Q #WWG1WGA Circulate at your own leisure
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More like Shitinhouse IMO
>>886266 Gottem
>>886266 Destroyed

Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 21:00:54 No. 904701 [Reply] [Last]
This isn't Twitter stupidpol tier posting, rather just the scenario presented. What if the libs actually did secede? What would the country look like, what would the global reaction be, what would the Leftist one be? In my view Red states would become theocratic hellholes ran by Oil companies using the Church as a puppet and Blue states would become Technocratic hellholes ran by Amazon and Facebook.
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>>904743 It will, the video content that will come out of it will be gold though.
>>905021 Imagine all these warcrimes recorded while Travis Scott or some shit is playing in the backround.
>>904743 There won't be a war. At best just riots and protests like the current ones but more frequently
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>>905030 postmodern warfare
>>904701 >a thread died for this

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Lolipol Anonymous 09/14/2020 (Mon) 08:44:35 No. 2865 [Reply] [Last]
Why a lot of leftists hate lolis? Are they retarded or just thinking loli mean Pedophile?
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>>3177 but Stalin was a pedo
>>3405 >That's all you have to say... Wow. There's nothing much to say. Your arguments boil down to you liking dictatorships. >Again? Is your brain broken? Have you got any actual arguments? So real CP is allowed if it's shot like French cinema? No, we're talking about drawings, sculptures, and so on. But nudity on film isn't that weird. There are videos of me as a child running naked around the house. Should my parents be arrested for having them? >Good luck with that KEK, like I have said 99.999% of proles would rather you dead. But I'm not into pedo shit. It just so happens that I understand the need to preserve their freedom of expression. You know many lolicon artists don't masturbate to their work, right? To them, it's just art.
>>3406 >Vaush Is he the new boogeyman? His takes on socialism can be retarded, but he is effective. How many people have you brought to the left?
>>3414 ><Workers rights is when some closeted 2D pedos making up a tiny portion of the population demand the right for drawn CP to be spread to everyone, even when most of them dislike it. This is freedom of expression. I am no more in favor of banning their stuff as I am for banning depictions of gay sex, zoophilia, rape, straight sex, or god-forbid, hand-holding. >I'm not a lolbert who wants the right to diddle fictional kids you're just a fasci Well you can't diddle fictional kids. So there's that. It's funny that you have to ascribe a political ideology that I do not hold so you can feel comfortable, since you can't actually make a positive argument for why censorship needs to be the goal.
>>The Tsutomu Miyazaki Case (also known as "The Saitama Prefecture Multiple Child Rape-Murder Case) >>Between August 1988 and June 1989, four pre-school school girls became missing in Saitama Prefecture. Here is an overall review of what happened: >>August 22, 1988 - Imano Mari (age four) was kidnapped, raped and murdered. Video taped Mari-chan's corpse and vagina. (video tape found at his house as evidence). Dumped and buried body in forest. >>October 3, 1988 - Miyazaki asked Yoshizawa Masami (age seven) for directions, and promised her to take her somewhere "nice." Masami started crying inside Miyazaki's car, and Miyazaki: "I had no choice but to strangle her to shut up." After she took her final breath, Miyazaki: "I took her clothes off and put my finger into her vagina, but her body moved even though she was dead...I became scared I left the body in the forest" >>December 9, 1988 - Namba Erika (age four) kidnapped, raped, and strangled. Dumped body in a forest. >>December 15, 1988 - Erika's body found in forest by police investigators. >>January, 1989 - Miyazaki returns to Mari-chan's burial site, took her skull back home, burned it to ashes at his home incinerator. Sends Mari-chan's ashes to her parents in a cardboard box with a letter enclosed with newspaper letters of 「真理・遺骨・焼・証明・鑑定」 (Mari, Ikotsu, Yaki, Shoumei, Kantei / Mari, Body Ashes, Burned, Evidence, Proof) >>February 10, 1989 - Miyazaki sends additional letters to Asahi Daily News and Mari-chan's distressed families (once again with newspaper letters) explaining in vivid detail how he killed and raped little Mari-chan. >>March 11, 1989 - Miyazaki learns of Mari-chan's funeral. Sends another letter to the Imano family and Asahi Daily News "I deeply appreciate the proper burial that you were able to provide her that I could not." Public anger explodes.

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Why do /pol/acks have this specific face Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 21:35:25 No. 904790 [Reply] [Last]
Seriously, why do they all have this exact face? I'm actually curious.
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>>904790 Wasn't one of them a registered democrat?
>>905570 yeah and ethnically antifa
>>905485 you almost have to be self hating to some extent to be involved in politics >>905522 this summarizes it fairly well, never was a rightoid or had a superiority complex but I held some of those strange views about women when i was 14/15. they pretty much got cured by actually socializing and talking to girls lmao
>>905530 what is your point, exactly? I couldn't see it under all that contempt for people you yourself have clearly never interacted with.
>>904790 Not sure why some of them have the same hideous visage. But I think this serves as further proof the NPC meme applies much better to the right than anyone else.

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Anonymous 09/27/2020 (Sun) 01:02:09 No. 905439 [Reply] [Last]
Let's say a successful revolution happens and you've killed off all of the baddies and right wing people. Now you have left is mostly people who aren't into politics or aren't even into the ideology as well. There will be thousand of them or more. Just normal people who just want a normal life and who aren't even into revolution/movement. What will you do with them? Discuss below.
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>>905650 You and I both know rightoids secretly wish this would happen
>>905688 Yes but the fantastical version where they get to be heroes despite being fat as shit and retarded. In reality they'd be in a camp within a week and dead shortly after.
>>905463 Yes, our goal as communists is to first kill off all the right wingers and the capitalists, and then after we will kill off all the rest and have Communism In One Mass Grave.
>>905643 It's not just that. It is the notion that bad thing happen because there are bad people. And the only thing we have to do is kill bad people and put good people in power, instead of thiking that problem is systemic and the system itself produces problems even if good people are running it. That is a very right wing way to think about propblems. It is always joos or psychopaths or something else with them. "We just need to put good people in power".
>>905700 You mean the fact that we have to replace oligarchic, dictatorial, capitalist systems all over the world? Of course we will do that as well!

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Aesthetics Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 20:01:41 No. 904394 [Reply] [Last]
Why the fuck is the right so obsessed with aesthetics and posturing as manly? Why they always say left = effeminate and right = manly? Is their politics just based on not liking the way people look?
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>>905644 The biology isn't as rare as you think. For every intersex person you do meet, there are probably 5 or ten who either have no idea, or who had surgery as an infant to remove one set of genitals in favor of the more functional ones.
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>>904805 I personally loved all the USSR makeshift guerilla warfare looking shit like the partisan fighters. There's something enduring about scrappy regular looking ass dudes taking up arms against a shiny uniformed death machine like the Wehrmacht.
>>904590 >The right wins again. The right will have a heart attack after a couple of pushups. Sweet taste of victory, i guess.
>>905666 trips of the beast how poetic

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RUSSIAN THREAD Anonymous 06/29/2020 (Mon) 20:34:52 No. 652142 [Reply] [Last]
Не нашёл - создал! Ну что там по поправкам: кто за бойкот и кто против? Каналы: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYDuWqDwzAFG4xrI5uJEWfw - РабКор - канал главного марксиста всея Руси Бориса «Каги» Кагарлицкого. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDqwBnBsFWxFj0ABSbE2Kvw - Николай Платошкин - самый энергичный и брутальный персонаж левой политической сцены в России. Сторонник активных избирательных компаний и узник совести. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2qoLqo8RuV4P_88yhHCZIg - Константин Сёмин - журналист, очень сильно разочаровавшийся в Путине и его режиме. Теперь он коммунист, вскрывающий и освещающий проблемы современной капиталистической России. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Cap1xVy2waDXfzM5ka6lg - Простые числа - канал Олега Комолова, где он популярно освещает вопросы экономики. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnqDsesb_BvX7kQZto7vTBw - New Deal- канал популяризатора полиэтокономии и ММТ Даниила Григорьева. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3VDbjQ1hnY4zSRHgAfAK-A - Плохой Сигнал он же Tubus Show он же Егор Иванов- историк-любитель, скрупулёзно и достоверно разбирающий антисоветскую пропаганду. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_LYRUJzBfh-mvU14xCNMw - Вестник Бури - канал интернет журнала. Лицо канала и журнала- Андрей Рудой, учитель, профсоюзный деятель, агитатор и пропагандист. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf8mmFOzEIIHiJhaTpamZYA - Вестник Бури Originals - Даниил Тишкун, контент тот же - по простому о марксизме и коммунизме, роликов поменьше. Объединяет их с Андреем работа на онлайн журнал с общим названием.
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>>900774 HAHAHAHAHA godddamnit I fell for it.
>>892073 >The RSFSR is the RUSSIAN socialist republic, so that would be the primary focus. A fully reborn USSR is something looked forward to in the future, but not in short-term. I know. What do you think the chances of it happening are? The anti-Soviet sentiment in Ukraine, Lativa, Georgia etc seems incredibly strong at the moment.
>>900982 >What do you think the chances of it happening are In the next decade? Low. Over the first half of this century, fairly good odds in my opinion. Russia's communists are on the move and constantly agitating, and as conditions grow worse, they gain support. >Latvia Latvia and the rest of the Balts always have had contrarian issues with Russia, out of sheer spite. It would take many generations of socialist life for this slanderous toxicity to pass. Ukraine is not actually all that anti-communist, the government is just very adamant at repressing non-rightwingers. If Donbass and Lugansk can solidify as independent socialist republics it'll be a good start. Belorus people are largely supportive of the USSR and its socialism. Even with Lukashenko's state-capitalism, there is a good chance that a socialist re-establishment can occur, however right now is a bad time to engage in this, as the current protests and other movements are too controlled by glowfags to be legitimate at this time. Until they can be kicked out, internal struggle will result in failure and US control of the territory, which will give us a new Ukraine except worse. >Georgia Georgia, unlike the Baltics will, basically follow Russian trends or reap the consequences if Turkey can get its tentacles in there. Over-all things are looking positive, but will require patience.
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>>710630 >>792463 >>798527 >>799457 Как же заебали эти споры уровня "нужны геям права или нет". Сука, ну если вы против геев и проч. ничего не имеете, то почему вообще спорите о том нужны им браки или нет? Могут они показывать свои чувства несмотря на то, что другим это не нравится или нет? Всем же очевидно ваше отношение к ним, всем блять кто читает такого рода срань, но они вы продолжаете прикрываться, говоря "ну они же не болшинство, поэтому на них надо обращать меньше внимание", "ну культура такая" и т.п. делая вид, что из того, что они меньшинство вообще что-то следует, или что культура это как законы физики- изменить нельзя, а даже если можно, то лучше не надо и т.д.
>>905549 >Как же заебали эти споры уровня "нужны геям права или нет". Меня тоже. Права человека это буржуазная выдумка. Чистой воды идеализм и основан на противопоставлении государства и индивидуума. Into the trash it goes.

Anonymous 09/27/2020 (Sun) 00:27:51 No. 905349 [Reply] [Last]
Leftist music besides the dead Kennedys, the velvet underground and RATM?
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>>905441 >Samurai for Cyberpunk 2077 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXOdflScCY hahaha holy shit pure ideology
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Look up “Song of the Old Communists”
>>905349 Anglos dont really make any communist music. All the songs in my leftist playlist is in my native language.

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Anonymous 09/27/2020 (Sun) 02:22:17 No. 905598 [Reply] [Last]
hello? based department?

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Anonymous 09/22/2020 (Tue) 12:11:25 No. 890796 [Reply] [Last]
Why does this book turn people into ethno-Nazbols?
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>>890796 Settlers is best read with Hinterland; neither book should be read without the other.
>>903767 I 100% agree. As a general rule, Settlers should NEVER be read on its own, particularly newcomers who aren't already grounded in theory. >>903190 That's a perfectly fair point. Keep in mind that I do not completely agree with Sakai, and that I do think that unions are beneficial to socialist struggle: I just think they shouldn't be the modus operandi, as Sakai and others have given plenty of reason for. >>903194 I overall agree with you here. Sakai's points have been done better by other authors, without the rhetoric and occasional lapses in historical integrity. However, I do have to agree with Sakai that workers unions like the IWW and AFL-CIO were impotent to achieve any sort of real revolutionary capacity, and therefore were pretty complicit in the oppressive status quo. Granted, this applies to practically every other institution in America at the time, which is why I totally agree that Sakai lacks the scientific perspective to see RELATIVE progress for a certain time. I also think that him insulting these orgs as "settler" and "aiding white supremacy", which I agree is unfair cuz it could be applied to almost any institution at the time. Still, underneath the rhetoric and moral judgments, his points about complicity in white supremacy and imperialism are still perfectly valid, and unfortunately understated. Remember, I overall felt the book was alright, I'm not some sort of closet Sakai-lover. All of your points about rhetoric and dishonesty are perfectly valid, and it would probably have given me a much more negative impression had I not possessed the will to cut through terrible prose/rhetoric to get to the actual points made. I wouldn't even be going out of my way to defend him at all if it weren't for the fact that I dumped so much time into reading this book. I just think he's made out to be way more than he is, whether it be in praising him as the Second Mao or condemning him as Woke Hitler. All in all, I just think he made good points underneath a lot of bullshit. >>903448 Sure lol. Let's say: "JTP is a pro-PRC Marxist-Leninist from the US, who is particularly interested in scientific socialism and Marxian economics." Be sure to link me the page when it's done, I'll be in the thread periodically if you wanna link it here!
>>903767 Hinterland and Settlers draw some radically different conclusions from each other.
>>891947 He makes some good points occasionally but I can never take him seriously because of the whole Dr. Phil thing
>>905219 Haha, exactly. Like, even if he did make a very good video dissecting Juche, there's no way I can get past this shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2eDLongJs4 What do you think bros, did he do it, or was he the plot of an evil Crakkker conspiracy?

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Anonymous 08/21/2020 (Fri) 19:35:13 No. 792262 [Reply] [Last]
Don't know how to feel about the CPUSA. Some of their members online seem to have good politics, but the party rag had that article basically pushing a vote for Biden and glorifying Sanders. CPUSA rank and file online will say "that is just an article by one person, it doesn't represent how everyone in the party thinks" but it is a featured article on their website. It seems clear that in some fashion this is represented as the party's line on Biden. I'm just looking at the field of options and it seems like your big ones are PSL, DSA, CPUSA, or the Greens. PSL and Greens are actually running candidates, while CPUSA and DSA aren't. While obviously you aren't going to vote communism into reality, it is silly to abstain from fielding even local candidates, let alone national ones in order to simply promote communism from political office. But the Greens and DSA are much more blatantly reformist. PSL seems OK, but in my experience also rather insular and sectarian.
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>>886598 >>886714 A little late, but thanks for the effort posts. I think you brought up a lot of good points I need to think about. Do you have a link to that Joe Sims article you mentioned?
>>901882 Not when the party is practically non-existent with a history of crawling with feds. Joining the Greens and making their eco-socialism more Marxist makes far more sense.
>>902781 Then you should do that. Join whatever leftist party you want, but please actually do it and be involved.
>>792330 Hey CPUSA anon. The biggest appeal of CPUSA by a long shot, at least for me, is that it appears to be an Communist Party embedded in actual politics, labor activism, community organizing, etc, rather than being a glorified student organization like every other communist party seems to be. It can be really disheartening to see these parties hype themselves up as this revolutionary working class movement, only to later learn that their praxis begins and ends with agitating at the local fucking college and sometimes going out to a protest. This is my problem with PSL, they may have consistently better takes, but they're still just a college club embedded into the local hipster hives. How would you describe CPUSA's praxis? What are the "duties" of the average member?

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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general Comrade 08/05/2019 (Mon) 12:39:50 No. 8925 [Reply] [Last]
A general thread for all China related discussion
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>>905486 They're not being deployed to the border, more likely they're retiring from active duty, hence the ceremonial red sashes.
>>905568 >They're not being deployed to the border, more likely they're retiring from active duty, hence the ceremonial red sashes. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4014259 https://disp.cc/b/163-cLtB On Sunday, Pakistani comedian Zaid Hamid uploaded a video showing several PLA recruits crying on a bus as they are allegedly "transferred to Ladakh Border to face Indian Army [sic]." Hamid then wrote that China's one-child policy is "seriously hurting the motivation level of our Chinese brothers." He then added, "We Pakistani support you China. Stay Brave." Although Pakistan is an ally of China, Hamid appeared to be poking fun at the tender, green recruits. The footage was originally posted on the WeChat page of Fuyang City Weekly, but it was soon deleted. The original post shows 10 fresh recruits from Fuyang City's Yingzhou District in China's Anhui Province. All of the new troops were reportedly college students, and five of them had "proactively volunteered to serve in Tibet," which borders the Ladakh region where the bloody Galwan Valley skirmish took place in June of this year. The video was reportedly filmed at the Fuyang Railway Station as they prepared to head to a military camp in Hebei Province. In the video, the soldiers can be seen sobbing hysterically as they struggle to sing the words to the PLA song "Green Flowers in the Army" (軍中綠花). A Chinese netizen who goes by the handle @waynescene reposted the video on Sunday and wrote "They were told that they would be going to the front lines after they got on the bus. The cannon fodder are crying!"
>>905618 >taiwannews [X] doubt
>>905555 Maybe they just like the song.
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New Multitude- leftypol related magazine Anonymous 08/22/2020 (Sat) 13:15:40 No. 793845 [Reply] [Last]
I want to ask this communities advice on how to proceed. Firstly, I still think there's a great wealth here. leftypol's strength is a great community from around the world and people who I believe have something unique to offer as far as leftist analysis goes. Leftypol's weakness is that this strength is fleeting, hence the Nm project. 1.While medium is ok I think it's time to move the magazine to its own website which will make it a hell of a lot more professional looking and attract more readers. 2. I have no tech skills. I need someone to help me build the website, linking the domain name etc. I have asked on /tech/ but I got mostly responses of "learn it yourself it's easy" sorry but I don't have the time to do that, which is why I hosted on medium in the first place. Is there anyone out there who could assist with this 3. getting higher quality posts. I think the idea of grabbing effort posts from leftypol is still valid, but it takes a lot of work to edit these into a quality I am happy with. Many of the current articles are curated debates, etc. I think they are good, but I also think it would be great to have some original essays too. We have some from Brazil anon and Singapore anon. I would love to work more with people here who have something unique to say. So I would like to offer something like $100 for an original essays/articles and various amounts for artwork too. I could fund this for while but.. 4.this would also mean that long term the project would need a patreon or something.I would actually like to do it so the artists and contributors got a fair share of any patreon money, so they could continue earning. Anyway this discussion is moot without first getting a reputation for quality and unique posts. 5. the name. So many people thought that many "New Multitude" was some kind of Hardt and Negri offshoot..I guess that's understandable, but it's not. What do you think about the name..I was also toying with the name "Swinis Multiude" which is the name the arch-conservative Edmund Burke gave to the common folk of England as an insult and which they reclaimed in jest. So yeah...Let me know what I should do. originally I set up a email for work, but quickly realised this wasn't a good plan. the best way to contact me is through twitter messaging twitter.com/newmultitude
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>>903154(me) >ultimately unimportant Too strong. Maybe “not that big of a deal compared to”.
>>903154 ok, I see more what you are saying now, but I think that rather than dismiss the arguments by the dissenters, you are saying it's not enough right?
>>903172 >you are saying it's not enough right? Yes, more like a misdiagnosis. It is like if we went to a steakhouse and people are gripping are the sides when the steak is already trash/low quality.
>>902425 >There is little grounding for this class on a material level distinct from workers, capitalists and petty bourgeoisie, besides education, which is not a relationship of production to begin with. It exists more so on the same cultural level as normies. can you explain this a bit more..Are you saying that what we call the PM.C. class are basically workers not distinct from the rest? But don't they form what Marx identified as the supervisory class? Perhaps this might be useful: >Marx’s prediction that capitalism would generate an expanding working class constituting the majority of the population and having no ownership stake in the means of production has been borne out. However, it remains internally differentiated and this is the central issue for class analysis and class politics. While the organic labour market relation between supervisors, skilled workers and unskilled workers is likely to generate a close subjective class affinity, there is likely to be a substantial subjective class distance between this group and the salariat. https://isj.org.uk/gravedigger-thesis/
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Stop using the word dialectic Anonymous 09/21/2020 (Mon) 23:08:46 No. 889621 [Reply] [Last]
And all of its derivatives. Erase this arcane word from your vocabulary. There's no point in having it there anyway since you don't know what it means. Nobody knows what it means. Feel free to prove me wrong by coming to a definition you can all agree on.
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>> 904451 Dietzgen was a close friend of Marx and got the green light from Marx himself as "the philosopher of socialism", Marx met him frequently and helped him with writing. On the other hand, there is a case to be made that Stalin revised the fuck out of this orthodox Marxist diamat though.
>>904451 No it's not, read the German Ideology.
>>904600 He's actually half-right, dialectical materialism was conceptualized after Marx, but is based on conclusions derived from his and Engels works. Dialectical Materialisms scope is more far reaching then Historical Materialisms, because Dialectical Materialism deals with the "nature" of matter itself.
>>904631 >but is based on conclusions derived from his and Engels works Yes I agree that Marx didn't exactly come up with it but like you said it's derived from what they wrote anyway.
>>903094 >medieval juridical occupation of 'subject' This isn't even wrong, but Cockshott is. Theres a direct line from juridical subject and the right of kings to liberal idealism, and positivist physicalism, which is why hes wrong. The Cartesian Subject that pomos critique is a backwards way to justify experience without appealing to the Christian god.

Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 05:35:29 No. 902794 [Reply] [Last]
Today marks 28 years since Comrade Gonzalo's important speech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsCRjhyDfyg
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>>905510 Friendly reminder that saying that Shining Path or MRTA were not terrorists is liable with jail in Peru. So there's that.
>>905511 Britain only has five years left at best
>>904915 lmao this s how delusional gonzaloids actually are
>>905052 shinning path still a bunch of cultist retards
>>904220 they completely failed ans divided the left they atacked other communist guerrillas and terrorized the peasants your defense of gonzalo is pure cope you keep talking about muh strategies and excesses to cope with the fact that shinnin path was nothing but a death cult who got btfo by one of the most unstable states in latinamerica

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For New Anons and Lurkers: FAQ, rules, and reading list Anonymous Board volunteer 07/05/2020 (Sun) 20:23:05 No. 668788 [Reply] [Last]
🚧🚧Please bookmark http://leftypol.org in case this current domain gets v&ed or anything else.🚧🚧 Visual Guide for New Anons https://bunkerchan.xyz/.media/e7c5eab9a4fa215d646e6c8aaee497ef-imagepng.png Do not put your e-mail in the e-mail field First, Please read this OP. Since we're leftists, there shouldn't be many differences ideologically, but our community has its own jargon and idiosyncrasies which might be jarring to outsiders. Second, although we allow slurs, we are anti-bigotry and it will not be tolerated. Thirdly, the board has an anti-idpol rule. Meaning that discussion of idpol topics is not allowed. There is some flexibility. Where that flexibility is also requires some time to get the feel of it. Fourthly, don't put anything in the name, or email fields. Don't doxx yourself Search the catalog before starting a new thread to avoid duplicates: https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/catalog.html MOD LOG: If you wish to see the log of mod actions (ban, deletions etc...) see https://bunkerchan.xyz/logs.js?boardUri=leftypol Useful threads are often remade when expired, search the catalog if these links are broken. Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread >>829118 Internet General >>731360 Original Creations (Memes) >>853632 Market Watch >>8552 USA Unrest >>801173

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>>902640 kike -> mick jogger -> wop
Oi, jannies, let TOR posters upload files pls
>>904504 I second this

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/IG/ Internet General Anonymous Board volunteer 07/29/2020 (Wed) 23:34:23 No. 731360 [Reply] [Last]
Discuss e-celebs, lefty youtube, twitter, twitch, etc. New 'actually moderated' flavour! Now with 100% less idpol guaranteed!
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>>905560 He even was mentioned in this unclassified gov document: https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/471292844-The-Syrian-Conflict-and-Its-Nexus-to-U-S-based-Antifascist-Movements-3.pdf He certainly is a suspicious person...
>>905011 i just watched this. Holy mother of god. imo we should ask them if we can have the vid and music and make an english version of their stuff
>>905558 This is the Bernie shill crowd Bernie is a worthy compromise, the Soviets are a step too far Except the twist is that the Soviets are secretly fascists and Bernie is secretly a communist
>>905560 He's actually on a livestream right now https://youtu.be/w235RwpyfSw

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The USA is rioting - /BÜRGERKRIEG/ - V Anonymous 08/24/2020 (Mon) 21:50:40 No. 801173 [Reply] [Last]
<New riots - Jacob Blake Related events. Remember we also have an official chat https://matrix.to/#/+leftychat:matrix.org to keep in touch with the mod team and you can use https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchantemp , maintained by members of the community, to continue chatting and following the happenings even if Bunkerchan goes down. There have been rodney king tier riots in Minneapolis since George Floyd was killed. What is /leftypol/'s opinion? Updated FRATERNAL RIOT PORN WATCHING AND FRIENDLY CIRCLEJERK HERE: https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchantemp (Or this one https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchanalt ) Location of protests all over the US: https://twitter.com/IGD_News/status/1266173527708835840 https://naarpr.org/updates/cities-join-the-call-for-national-day-of-protest/ DONATE TO HELP ARRESTED PROTESTORS https://twitter.com/ntltcIit/status/1266820861362933762

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>>905563 >rioting no >police also no >the right only in action, in rhetoric they have escalated, but in action they are too chickenshit to actually face down the masses >trump's plan probably just a ploy for the election to take black conservative votes from Biden, I doubt it will ever pass.
>>905563 It hasn't calmed down, the news just doesn't report on it.
>>905554 if that's their idea of a cute trad wife, I want Satan
>>905554 That looks like a man.
>>905587 That's one cute man.

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irredentism Anonymous 09/22/2020 (Tue) 14:24:17 No. 891056 [Reply] [Last]
How strong are irredentist movements in your country(for thoes who do not know irredentism is the idea that a country should reclaim her long lost borders and form a bigger version of herself(greater greece greater serbia greater italy The british empire russian empire) However they arent always right wing as there are left wing people who dream of a new border like the soviet union or fully united ireland. Im asking this because many socialist ideas believe that there would be no needs for defined borders after achieving the last stages of communism(for any /pol/tard reading this the last part dosent mean that then all non white trans islamic illegal mullatos can move to your street in large numbers and live on your money but that all workers across the world would no longer have to fight each other for lines on maps)
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>>903527 Brilliant! Embrace irredentism-mapism!
>>904948 Dude who are you
>China has border disputes with 17 countries https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR7WgKnBTIE
>>905523 Cappies mad.
>>891056 turkish irredentism is very strong among the populace (even some socdems) but i feel like our sultan is going for more of a regional imperialist power than just taking back the le epic ottoman lands

Anonymous 09/25/2020 (Fri) 04:46:31 No. 899823 [Reply] [Last]
Communists after WW1 >this is it capitalism is finally finished! The proletariat is finally rising up! Communists in the 30s >this is the end once and for all! Fascism is the final defense of capitalism and the bourgeois democracies and their economies are collapsing! Adorno in the 40s >now this is late capitalism for real guys this time its entering its finally stage for real Leftists in the 60s >this is it capitalism is in decline its finally finished! Leftists in the 2000s and 2010s >for real this time this is really late stage capitalism we swear guys this is really it its near the end now! So how long exactly is “late capitalism” supposed to last again? It seems like its been “late capitalism” for 100 years now. You fags realize it’s only just now peaking right?
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>>900884 It's commie payback.
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>>901043 So? Who cares about some no name lib and their cope?
>>900488 Could you recommend some literature about this? it sounds interesting.
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>>901479 >bottom of the graph is not zero

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Is contemporary Africa is equivalent to Medieval Europe? Anonymous 09/27/2020 (Sun) 00:18:42 No. 905332 [Reply] [Last]
Not technology or culturally but more in terms of: >Classical Europe composed of massive slave empires, their colonies, the peoples on the frontier they conquered, pastoralists, and small independent states >Dark Age Europe sees centuries' long warring states periods as the former territories of states like the Roman Empire battled among themselves to determine knew territorial boundaries, social systems, and state forms; meanwhile Rome via the Catholic Church continues exerting "neocolonial" control over Western Europe >High Middle Ages sees new stable societies, kings begin asserting themselves against church >Rise of capitalism allows Europe to conquer the world Now for modern day Sub-Saharan Africa >19th - Early 20th Century Africa sees rule via overseas capitalist empires, a spattering of independent states >World Wars collapse classical colonial system >Dark Ages in Africa, shitty national borders causes African nations to descend into brutal conflicts to determine national boundaries like Dark Age Europe; meanwhile Northern capitalist states continue neocolonial control via trade deals and subterfuge >...?
>Definition of equivalent >1 : equal in force, amount, or value "has elements of" would be a better choice of words
>>905422 Why did you sage? This is an actual analysis
Doubt it.

Anonymous 09/27/2020 (Sun) 01:31:56 No. 905512 [Reply] [Last]
Got banned from pol today for asking what stonetoss looked like irl
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>>905512 The developer of RedPanels' Android app is Mike Carter. It is improbable that RedPanels, StoneToss, and Mike Carter are the same person.
>>905518 no worries :3 welcome to /leftypol/ please put your preferred pronouns in the name field. Have a nice stay, use filters to avoid microaggressions
>>905529 thank you, thank you
>>905529 Does mike have Twitter?
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I have a theory Stonetoss is Schmorky.

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"DIALECTICS IS CANCELED!" Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 22:34:32 No. 904983 [Reply] [Last]
https://aeon.co/essays/racism-is-baked-into-the-structure-of-dialectical-philosophy?utm_source=pocket-newtab >Philosophy’s systemic racism >It’s not just that Hegel and Rousseau were racists. Racism was baked into the very structure of their dialectical philosophy Discovered this steaming pile of shit and thought you guys might get a kick out of it.
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>>905282 >A better conclusion would be "racism can introduce bias and cloud the observer's view of the two opposing force's perspectives," but whatever. Yes but that wouldn't serve the purposes of attempted western hegemony in asymmetrically making non-western thought legible to western, particularly anglo scholars, while keeping western thought opaque to non-western scholars cf. >The result is not the loss of the Western canon, but the actual improvement of philosophical thought.
>>905090 >>905095 GOATSElectics
College was a mistake
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>>905090 Krullectics
>>905090 >bad infinity

Communist Party of Bhutan Anonymous 09/27/2020 (Sun) 00:40:40 No. 905381 [Reply] [Last]
While I was browsing the list of ongoing People's War (a term coined by Chairman Mao), I've found out that the Kingdom of Bhutan is unofficially at war with a vanguard party. So I would like to be redpilled on the CPB. Sauce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan_Communist_Party_(Marxist-Leninist-Maoist)
Don't know anything about them but sounds based. Down with the Bhutanese monarchy and the House of Wangchuck. Unconditional solidarity with the people's democratic revolution in Bhutan!
Thesis: bhutanese monarchy Antithesis: communist party of bhutan Synthesis: peoples' bhutanese commonarchy

Reminder that "Dengism" doesn't exist and that "anti-dengists" are idiots Anonymous 09/24/2020 (Thu) 06:34:38 No. 896328 [Reply] [Last]
You realize that literally nobody is advocating for Deng style policies in the world, right? You realize that the super specific circumstances in post-Maoists China are nowhere else to be found in the universe, right? You realize that nobody calls himself a "Dengist," right? You realize that those who defend China do it for a plethora of reasons and you can't just lump them in one category, right? You realize that calling people "Dengists" and being yourself an "anti-dengist" is merely an online meme, right? You realize that if you actually pull this shit IRL you'll be laughed at, right? You realize that as an quote-unquote anti-dengist you are fighting a virtual war, no different from Chris Chan's holy crusade against the wrong coloring of Sonic's arms, right? Observe the anti-dengist "struggle": https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Sonic_Boom_Protests Seriously, log off, and start a life.
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>>897030 >unions are mandatory. Forgive me if i will never trust a union i am _forced_ to join.
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Was he Dengist?
>>905246 No, he was a leftcom.
>>905246 You've got it backwards. Deng was a Bukharinite (it's confirmed by statements of his IIRC).

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News 9/26/20 News Anon 3.0 09/26/2020 (Sat) 18:32:53 No. 904150 [Reply] [Last]
Assange ruling will not be delivered before US elections, judge says Judge Baraitser told the court that she would take each sides’ closing arguments in written form, granting the defence four additional weeks to submit theirs.She promised her decision “in the new year.” https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/assange-ruling-will-not-be-delivered-before-us-elections-judge-says The future is now: Moscow’s big brother facial recognition technology to be expanded to ten other Russian cities According to newspaper Kommersant, Russian company NtechLab, a partner of Moscow’s IT Department, is launching pilot projects in 10 of the country’s regional centers. For example, it will install 3,000 cameras in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia’s sixth biggest city. The company refused to name the other nine, in order not to disrupt future negotiations. https://on.rt.com/ar6s Clashes With Police Occur As Cadres Of CPI Maoist Enter Telangana State And East Godavari District The Maoists from Chhattisgarh have been told by their leadership to enter Telangana and East Godavari district in Andhra Pradesh. In the past 30 days, 8 Maoist cadres have been gunned down by the police along the forest borders with Chhattisgarh and Maharashtra. https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-war/clashes-with-police-occur-as-cadres-of-cpi-maoist-enter-telangana-state-and-east-godavari-district/ Communist rebels eye talks with Robredo for ‘post-Duterte’ resumption of peace negotiations The National Democratic Front of the Philippines, which represents communist rebels in peace talks with the government, wants to discuss the resumption of negotiations with Vice President Leni Robredo after botched efforts with the Duterte administration. https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/9/19/NDFP-peace-talks-Robredo-.html https://archive.is/vBymG

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>>905356 >unfairly otherwise Yes.
>Gig Economy Company Launches Uber, But for Evicting People re-purpose this to organize tenants unions ?
>>905424 We should repurpose it to organize unions in general. It's about time there was a major drive to unionize people, especially with internet connectivity making if easy.
>>905440 Making it easy*
>>905440 >>905424 not just unions either but any kind of direct action

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¡Únete! C.I.H. 06/16/2020 (Tue) 20:10:39 No. 2835 [Reply] [Last]
Para todos los hispanohablantes: http://5mb6sawho6khkztj.onion/
This is extremely based
que es? me da flojera checar..
>>2835 Esto es muy based

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/leftybritpol/ - AVOID THE APP EDITION Anonymous 09/25/2020 (Fri) 23:14:45 No. 902054 [Reply] [Last]
CYTUBE - https://cytu.be/r/BunkerBongs-AcornStalinism Don't be tracked! Avoid the app!
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>>903619 >>903639 mad Xinjiang is hardly a manufacturing powerhouse. (It has a smaller population as Australia) The main export in question is Cotton, which (although China makes ~20% of the world's cotton, mostly in Xinjiang) is hardly a major China-US export. (Cotton itself isn't in their top 30 exports, and while clothing does rank on the face of it it doesn't seem likely that clothing produced outside Xinjiang with cotton from there will be impacted.) so in conclusion it's basically nothing and will have no notable effect on China-US relations (especially compared to the much more notable shit like tiktok and tariffs), and given the US slavery metaphor the fact that the export in question is cotton is actually very funny. it's fine to be desperate for WW3, but that doesn't mean you should take politicians rhetoric seriously.
>>903405 copy and pasting this shit is only one step away from schizo-posting.
I see the booj's jackbooted thugs were out beating up anti-lockdown protesters in London. No surprise.
>>905372 It is two versions of porkies thugs fighting with themselves

I'm a burger who wants to understand non-burgers better Anonymous 09/18/2020 (Fri) 18:05:36 No. 5339 [Reply] [Last]
I am An American on the internet I talk to non Americans the most A lot of people arent Americans here Everything I know about other countries is mostly stereotypes and memes, French are baguette people, British are the funny hat fish and chips people, Spaniards are European Latinos, Greeks are also European latinos basically, Italians are like Jimmy Latoya from down the block except they only speak Italians, Chinese people are like how Russians used to be when they were still a socialist country, Japanese people are depressed, Australians say "Crikey" and Germans are blonde etc, etc I know this all sounds retarded and Like Americans are dumb, but you gotta understand, Europeans can easily visit another country on any afternoon, with Americans just visiting another state is as close as most of us get to going to another country America is a third of a continent So I am making this thread so I can get to understand different nation and peoples better, I was gonna say I'm happy when I meet immigrants cuz it's like meeting a baby or someone from a whole other world, but that sounds cringey and 19th Century British colonists tier
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finn here. warm morning. ama
>>5403 same, AMA
>>5403 >>5404 What’s the most offensive expression in your country?
>>5396 Yeah, I've had experiences with Puertoricans before. They were kind of serious. One of them got a bit offended when someone said they speak Spanish (apparently this person didn't).
>>5406 >They were kind of serious. It's not serious it's just a general bitchy attitude. I've been to a lot of places and I've never encountered a people as generally bitchy as here.

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Why are fash*ids obsessed with anime? Anonymous 09/25/2020 (Fri) 21:10:11 No. 901619 [Reply] [Last]
why do they liked japanese cartoons so much?
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Obligatory reminder that the feds run confirmed manipulation ops on other countries' online media. Do be alert for the glow spooks.
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>>902248 >both watch ahneemee >"one of us has to be retarded" >>903381 >AnimeSuki
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>>902589 >The lore is basically irrelevant you fucking idiot. then what am I supposed to enjoy, the writing? LMAO imagine spending like 20 years trying to flesh out a lore that's too convoluted and half-baked even for you, only to backpedal and stop worrying about it. fuck anno and fuck you, uighur.
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>>903065 I'm sorry but can you expand that into a large meandering critique that makes academic blindspots feel accomplished for reading?
>>903329 It's like a vice interview of some leftypol users back during the early 8chan days

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/brg/ - Brazil General Comrade 08/09/2019 (Fri) 01:03:24 No. 18835 [Reply] [Last]
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>>901109 Essa é a questão, ainda não existe uma outra estratégia, a esquerda no mundo inteiro está batendo cabeça pra montar uma, enquanto isso não acontece a velha ideia da "revolução" democratico popular permanece hegemonica, é algo que cada um de nós deveria estar pensando agora. No que se refere a medidas objetivas, eu tinha algumas ideias organizadas em alguns arquivos de texto, mas está tudo no meu notebook que está na assistência tecnica pela oitava vez, quando ele voltar eu posto aqui.
>>899403 País desgraçadão. >>902000 Dando mole. Sabe o que vai acabar ocupando o lugar né? Um cadáver do capitalismo. >>902495 Mas será que tem uma vontade popular para isso? Vejo a condição das pessoas se alterar entre raiva e alienação voluntária pelo cansaço, pouco vejo um pulo para o desejo de mudança.
>>902810 >Mas será que tem uma vontade popular para isso? Não tem, mas a alternativa é cruzar os braços e esperar, sendo que ninguém sabe quando essa "vontade" vai surgir, fora que quando surgir ainda precisaríamos pensar nessas questões.
>>902810 >Mas será que tem uma vontade popular para isso? Sim, óbvio que existe um desejo de mudança. O problema real é conseguir capturar e canalizar esses afetos, afinal é um desejo de mudança e de retorno a um periodo anterior menos complicado, desejo de avançar e retornar ao mesmo tempo. Alias, algo que até se manifesta na esquerda esse desejo do retorno, ou que outra maneira ajuda a explicar o retorno do "stalinismo"? De novo, como lidar e manipular esses afetos? Lembra que bolsonaro era vendido como a solução de todos o problemas, desde o combate a violencia, a corrupção até a fila lenta do caixa do supermercado, do elevador com defeito, bolsonaro chegaria no poder e mudaria tudo isso. Agora, se tu espera uma revolução ou um povo preparado para uma revolução, eu sinto muito mas faltam condições objetivas e subjetivas. Objetivas pois se tomarmos como exemplo as revoluções do sec xx falta ainda uma deterioração ainda maior da qualidade de vida cotidiana(as duas maiores revoluções do seculo ocorreram logo após guerras severas) e subjetivas pois falta o andar de cima decidir que quer mudança e eu particularmente não vejo esse desejo de mudança geral, só, talvez, da mudança da forma com que as relações publicas do governo sejam geridas.
>>904810 >>902810 >>902495 >>901109 Acredito que o melhor jeito é, ironicamente, o Blaquismo. Temos abandonar os partidos e organizar um novo Estado trabalhor popular nas nossas costas e esperar uns camaradas se tornarem generais

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Would you watch a movie about Indian soldiers in WWII earning the respect of the British? Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 20:21:47 No. 904516 [Reply] [Last]
Let's say it starts with the Nazi invasion of India, then the Indian men like Rakesh realize even if Brits are dicks Nazis are straight up assholes so he and his lads from the village sign up to fight in the Royal Army and near the end the Indian soldiers get into a pitched battle with the SS alongside some black US troops during the pivotal D-Day Battle at one point Rakesh meets a Soviet soldier who tells him about Stalingrad and in the end Churchill shakes Rakesh's hand and gives him a medal and Rakesh learns the Japanese invasion was defeated and the last moment is years later the Queen ends the British colony in India because of the soldiers' heroism and also because the fight for freedom and democracy against fascism meant imperialism and colonialism needed to end Wouldn't that be a sick anti-imperialist anti-war movie? I want a scene where the Germans are all tattered and wounded and sad and shit so you learn the other side is human too and cities are in ruins and shit. Cool idea I had.
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>>904675 You know COD would do that shit They literally put the Highway of Death in their last game and blamed it on the Russians
>>904706 This is true.
>>904516 There is no royal army the theres the royal airforce and the royal navy
I won't watch an Indian movie tbh. They are shit.
>>905292 was slumdog millionaire an indian production, or did it just take place in india? there has to be at least three good indian movies. on the level of the best films ever made.

Capitalist "innovation" Anonymous 06/29/2020 (Mon) 21:24:21 No. 652339 [Reply] [Last]
Post them.
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>>900739 Software offices lower the barrier to entry for new capitalists and drive down profit margins of individual capitalists. Workers might loose connection with coworkers but can talk to neighboring residents, a new form of cross company unions might form.
>>904400 Nah. It's the managerial stratum feeling super insecure about being rendered redundant and pervy bosses jerking off to live feeds of employees. Bossware should have a tipping function where your boss can send you money to show tits. Fuck, I think I'm onto something. I think I see a lucrative investment opportunity here. I feel like I'm becoming a capitalist innovator myself. BRB, pitching my XXXbossware startup idea to the Shark Tank.
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>>652463 automated Stasi card which enables collective punishment
>>904715 meanwhile the Stasi actually protected the achievements of socialism in the GDR
>>904731 Elon Musk Neuralink Chip presentation stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-brmW0BSHJ8

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What should the socialist stance on gun control be? Anonymous 09/25/2020 (Fri) 23:44:14 No. 902105 [Reply] [Last]
And what can be done to prevent mass shootings?
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>>903999 You cant have this much weapons just sitting around, we need to bring back dueling so we can actually use them LMAO
>>902105 mandatory citizen militias ofc personal guns right are useless and retarded except in few exceptions, but we can still have it if it is heavily regulated and monitored.
Guns are one of the few areas where burgers are correct and it's amusing watching euro/anglo libs jumping through the mental gymnastics required to disarm the proletariat and claim that it's what Marx would have wanted, actually
>>902105 Mandatory gun ownership
>>905180 Thank you Uncle Stalin.

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Anonymous 09/24/2020 (Thu) 15:31:34 No. 897909 [Reply] [Last]
Why do people who care more about Marxian economics than anything else tend to be moralist spergs?
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Tbh, if you are a Marxist historian or economist only you kinda missed the point.
>>897909 There need to be more Marxist economists and much fewer Marxist anything-else. Too many people talk about the literary Marx but outright reject the LTV or something, at that point why the fuck call yourself Marxist at all?
>>904931 t. pseud
>>897909 They are the embodiment of metaphysical idealism.

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THE ANGLO Anonymous 09/24/2020 (Thu) 15:08:18 No. 897834 [Reply] [Last]
The most evil country to have ever existed. The proles are all cucked beyond belief. Still has a QUEEN and ROYAL FAMILY that the proles are forced, NO THEY'RE OVERJOYED, to support (with a ROYAL PEDOPHILE to boot). Constantly orchestrating coups with the americans. Fugly inhabitants all born with a strange urge to spread their fugly inbred seed around the world. The most retarded nationalism of them all. Beady little rat eyes and hatred for civilization. Sadistic deformed little gremlins who take pleasure in destroying that which is beautiful. You can hate the krauts, you can hate the burgers, you can hate the polaks, yes that's justified, but it seems leftypol has forgotten that the anglo is the root of all evil. Hopefully the cursed island goes back underwater when the ice melts. There is no defense for being anglo. The world has forever moved past the need for them. Every man, woman, and anglo child must be destroyed - this or barbarism. There's not nearly enough hate for them here. Anglos basically invented sectarianism while they were trying to keep their shitty colonies afloat. Even the /pol/tards understand that the anglo must be kept in check AT ALL TIMES. How can we keep these horrible barbarians from ruining absolutely everything?
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>>900124 That's because anglos are the ever expanding parasite. They couldn't keep their hands off from the grey shithole where the tap water can only be seperated from chocolate by smell, no. The Anglo is like the xenomorph. Hatching onto its prey and impregnating it mercilessly. The anglos thereby gave birth to the beelzebub that is the burger, which not only roams the halls with ever more bloodlust and greed than the Anglo, but also ever more eldritch physique.
>>905181 >Alien reference Anglos are the Engineers Burgers are the xenomorph Anglos were the last empire that created the parasite Burgers are the ever expanding parasite that will end the world
>>905132 They are not assimilated ideologically. They still are lizard parasites.
Thinking they are not normans because they assimilated is race science stuff.
>>905241 Thinking that norman-ness is transhistorical is ethnic essentialism

Anonymous 09/25/2020 (Fri) 12:17:10 No. 900482 [Reply] [Last]
Is Buddhism compatible with leftism?
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>>904996 > Yes, and Christianity is not a religion either I've never said that Buddhism is not a religion. > I really don't care how you interpret it This is not *my* interpretation but the content of the teachings itself: some of the concepts you criticized in that post just do not exist in Buddhism in the first place. > trying to shill me your religion No, my goal was to provide a correct understanding of the subject. There are angles to criticize Buddhism from the leftist PoV but trying to paint it as some sort of mind-numbing escapism is a weak take from the 19th century (*cough-cough* Nietzsche). > You're not special and are as theocratic and terrorist as a religion like the rest of world religions and you can't define them as "not true believers" either. I've never argued about that, there are plenty of bad Buddhist around and in history. They are surely "true believers" but also shitty practitioners because the Buddhist teachings have "no violence" written all across them. > I'm just not interested in the sales pitch and the ensuing retarded back and forth about people's spiritualities I have no influence or interest over so we can hopefully skip all that in the future Welp, that was you who rolled into the thread with a sales pitch for socialism and communism replacing any kind of spirituality, ignoring all the similarities between leftist and Buddhist attitudes.
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>>900503 Eh, I don't think that's necessarily true. What did Buddha actually teach? The religion after him may have taught certain things that diverged from the whole point of all of his work. If I am not mistaken was he not famous for easing up on acolyte feats of asceticism amidst all his other ronin Hindu rebels? I heard that for a while his life was just him and all the other ascetics starving themselves and living in holes until one day Buddha had a vision or something and then said, "You know what, this isn't exactly entirely necessary."
>>905081 >This is not *my* interpretation but the content of the teachings itself: some of the concepts you criticized in that post just do not exist in Buddhism in the first place. It is how you present it. Call it your presentation then if not "interpretation". Doesn't matter. People present their faiths in a way they believe the other person thinks is positive. >but also shitty practitioners because the Buddhist teachings have "no violence" written all across them Every religion likes to be a religion of love and peace. >Welp, that was you who rolled into the thread with a sales pitch for socialism and communism replacing any kind of spirituality, >>903250 >ignoring all the similarities between leftist and Buddhist attitudes. Every religion can be turned to only show and emphasize its left side. Buddhism is no different. Whether or not buddhism itself is "fundamentally leftist" is of no consequence.
>>905149 > It is how you present it. Call it your presentation then if not "interpretation". Doesn't matter. People present their faiths in a way they believe the other person thinks is positive. It may seem positive here but it's not like that for theists who would find unpleasant many Buddhist concepts like the denial of a creator god or the ideas of karma and rebirth. > Every religion likes to be a religion of love and peace. Sure they do but their own texts often do not support them 100% of the time. Early Buddhist texts are explicitly pro-compassion and anti-killing at every turn. > Every religion can be turned to only show and emphasize its left side. Buddhism is no different. Whether or not buddhism itself is "fundamentally leftist" is of no consequence. Nope, it's different: the most rightward take from the Buddhist texts would be their anti-abortion stance but since the Buddhist discourses are not the Word of the God, this stance is rarely codified in laws. While Buddhism is not "fundamentally leftist" in any way, you would have extremely hard time mining it for right-wing content without some WW2-Japan-tier mental gymnastics.

Anonymous 07/02/2020 (Thu) 14:57:09 No. 661184 [Reply] [Last]
#BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein confidante, British socialite and heiress Ghislaine Maxwell, has been arrested by the FBI https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ghislaine-maxwell-arrested-jeffrey-epstein-aide/2495762
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>>902388 Yeah, imagine believing that pedophilia is real lol.
>>902411 >>902388 Only poor people can be pedophiles. Rich people are legally never pedophiles so.
>>902411 imagine thinking epstein's tale is something relevant to class struggle, flag is appropriate
>>902435 You're so right. A bunch of rich people kidnapping poor kids to rape has no element of class involved.
>>902310 That's retarded. They're the bourgs and therefore from a class perspective are exploiting the proletariat (in more ways than one) and therefore are subject to proletarian justice. >>902388 Ah, the CIA trying to discredit conspiracies again, how... 'wonderful'

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Anonymous 09/01/2020 (Tue) 19:50:17 No. 830334 [Reply] [Last]
Why is Poland so anti-communist? All Poles I've talked to are reactionary. One was even a neo-nazi with face tattoos lmao.
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>>900594 From what I've seems they are very salty about PRL times. Easiest way to make the population dislike something is liken it to communism. Poles also want to "fit on" with the big guys, like USA and western europe. At the other hand, a lot of old people are nostalgic about those times, and how everything was easier.
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>>905150 Draw her giving a birth

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/Nord/ - Nordic General Anonymous 08/29/2020 (Sat) 17:21:28 No. 818850 [Reply] [Last]
The previous Nordic thread reached bump limit, so let's continue here. Let's discuss in English, so we can all understand each other (I don't want this to become a circle jerk for Swedes only). Previous thread >>290791
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>>905005 Just when and what finns it was hating Russia
>>904966 Forgot Nicholas II. Thanks for ending that, bolsheviks. >>905029 Please, can I have a fully formed sentence in this trying time?
>>905029 Finns apparently hate Russia for at least the isoviha of the early 1700s, where as Wikipedia puts it: >After the victory in Battle of Storkyro, Mikhail Golitsyn was appointed the governor of Finland. Finns began waging partisan warfare against the Russians. As retaliation, the Finnish peasants were forced to pay large contributions to the occupying Russians (as was the custom in that time). Plundering and raping was widespread, especially in Ostrobothnia and in communities near the major roads. Churches were looted, Isokyrö was burned to the ground. A scorched earth zone several hundred kilometers wide was burned to hinder Swedish counteroffensives. At least 5,000 Finns were killed and some 10,000 taken away as slaves, of whom only a few thousand would ever return; According to newer research, the amount of those killed is closer to 20,000. Newer research also estimates the number of slaved children and women to be closer to 30,000. My question was whether this justifies the level of Russia hate that Finns felt before even the Soviet Union and the Winter War and all. This was one case, which is compared to hundreds of years of Swedish colonialism.
>>905075 If you don't get that you're just dumb >>905094 Well, the Finns rose a statue dedicated to Tsar Alexander II in Helsinki so I don't think there was a continuous hatred ever since the Russian invasion unless you've something pointing towards that. As for the hatred against tsar russia Nicholas II attacked Finnish autonomy and tried to bring it more in line with the rest of Russia which spurred plenty of nationalist anger, like the Assassination I posted earlier.
>>905140 >faith, not works yuck. I'm not even a christian and I find this to be a cop-out. also, who the hell would use white font with a background like that?

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Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 00:35:21 No. 902242 [Reply] [Last]
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Arise, ye workers from your slumber, Arise, ye prisoners of want. For reason in revolt now thunders, and at last ends the age of cant! Away with all your superstitions, Servile masses, arise, arise! We'll change henceforth the old tradition, And spurn the dust to win the prize! So comrades, come rally, And the last fight let us face. The Internationale Unites the human race.
>>903016 the second stanza is actually based as fuck, but the first is full of spooky shit like "justice" and "rights"

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капиталовыблядские империалистические подстилки пиндоссии затроллены)))))))))))))
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>>904924 me on the left
>>904778 kek, caused me to laugh. What the fuck is a hohloswines and why is it the perfect word to describe burgers.
>>904887 >tfw syphillis
>>905027 Hohol is a slur for ukrainians
>>905068 ow kek, I thought the meme was about burgers tearing down statues of colombus

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Proxy and VPN blocked Comrade 09/04/2020 (Fri) 23:57:51 No. 6838 [Reply] [Last]
Every day more proxy and VPN IP are blocked with this message: >Your IP was recognized as a known spammer Please fix this. I found one working proxy to post after two hours trying many proxies. Yesterday three proxies I used still worked, now give this error. Are the IP blocked by this site or the host? Hope it is possible to fix even if it is the host. Some people live in countries where political activism is more dangerous. Proxy and VPN are necessary but somewhere free list proxies and free VPN are the only safe way to post because government knows who pays for VPN or private proxies. Pic unrelated but it is happy unity. Sorry for my non native English.
>>6838 I think this is a cloudfare issue rather than a lynxchan one.
cant even post using tor fuck these faggots they keep banning the ips and you can't even files anymore >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected >flood detected fuck you
>>6840 No, there are a hell of a lot of rangebans also. >>7150 I know that feel. Wait 1min and the flood block is gone. "Bunkerchan", more like shift+ctrl+l chan...

STEM Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 07:37:20 No. 902920 [Reply] [Last]
stemlords of leftypol (like 75%+ of the board) Is this true? Is there any merit to this? (picrel#2) Is STEM overvalued? Why does the right fetishize STEM so hard compared to liberal arts/humanities?
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>>902920 didn't the entire (liberal) humanites jump on the 1619 project? Not defending stem lords but if you want to defend your science maybe act scienfitic
>>903461 because your dophamine receptors has been fried online so you can't manage reading?
>At the end of the twentieth century, the long predicted convergence of the media, computing and telecommunications into hypermedia is finally happening. Once again, capitalism's relentless drive to diversify and intensify the creative powers of human labour is on the verge of qualitatively transforming the way in which we work, play and live together. By integrating different technologies around common protocols, something is being created which is more than the sum of its parts. When the ability to produce and receive unlimited amounts of information in any form is combined with the reach of the global telephone networks, existing forms of work and leisure can be fundamentally transformed. New industries will be born and current stock market favourites will swept away. At such moments of profound social change, anyone who can offer a simple explanation of what is happening will be listened to with great interest. >At this crucial juncture, a loose alliance of writers, hackers, capitalists and artists from the West Coast of the USA have succeeded in defining a heterogeneous orthodoxy for the coming information age: the Californian Ideology. This new faith has emerged from a bizarre fusion of the cultural bohemianism of San Francisco with the hi-tech industries of Silicon Valley. Promoted in magazines, books, TV programmes, websites, newsgroups and Net conferences, the Californian Ideology promiscuously combines the free-wheeling spirit of the hippies and the entrepreneurial zeal of the yuppies. This amalgamation of opposites has been achieved through a profound faith in the emancipatory potential of the new information technologies. In the digital utopia, everybody will be both hip and rich. Not surprisingly, this optimistic vision of the future has been enthusiastically embraced by computer nerds, slacker students, innovative capitalists, social activists, trendy academics, futurist bureaucrats and opportunistic politicians across the USA. >As usual, Europeans have not been slow in copying the latest fad from America. While a recent EU Commission report recommends following the Californian 'free market' model for building the 'information superhighway', cutting-edge artists and academics eagerly imitate the 'post-human' philosophers of the West Coast's Extropian cult. With no obvious rivals, the triumph of the Californian Ideology appears to be complete. The widespread appeal of these West Coast ideologues isn't simply the result of their infectious optimism. Above all, they are passionate advocates of what appears to be an impeccably libertarian form of politics - they want information technologies to be used to create a new 'Jeffersonian democracy' where all individuals will be able to express themselves freely within cyberspace. >However, by championing this seemingly admirable ideal, these techno-boosters are at the same time reproducing some of the most atavistic features of American society, especially those derived from the bitter legacy of slavery. Their utopian vision of California depends upon a willful blindness towards the other - much less positive - features of life on the West Coast: racism, poverty and environmental degradation. Ironically, in the not too distant past, the intellectuals and artists of the Bay Area were passionately concerned about these issues. >On 15th May 1969, Governor Ronald Reagan ordered armed police to carry out a dawn raid against hippie protesters who had occupied People's Park near the Berkeley campus of the University of California. During the subsequent battle, one man was shot dead and 128 other people needed hospital treatment. >On that day, the 'straight' world and the counter-culture appeared to be implacably opposed. On one side of the barricades, Governor Reagan and his followers advocated unfettered private enterprise and supported the invasion of Vietnam. On the other side, the hippies championed a social revolution at home and opposed imperial expansion abroad. In the year of the raid on People's Park, it seemed that the historical choice between these two opposing visions of America's future could only be settled through violent conflict. As Jerry Rubin, one of the Yippie leaders, said at the time: 'Our search for adventure and heroism takes us outside America, to a life of self-creation and rebellion. In response, America is ready to destroy us...’ >During in the 1960s, radicals from the Bay Area pioneered the political outlook and cultural style of New Left movements across the world. Breaking with the narrow politics of the post-war era, they launched campaigns against militarism, racism, sexual discrimination, homophobia, mindless consumerism and pollution. In place of the traditional left's rigid hierarchies, they created collective and democratic structures which supposedly prefigured the libertarian society of the future. Above all, the Californian New Left combined political struggle with cultural rebellion. >Unlike their parents, the hippies refused to conform to the rigid social conventions imposed on 'organisation man' by the military, the universities, the corporations and even left-wing political parties. Instead they openly declared their rejection of the ‘straight’ world through their casual dress, sexual promiscuity, loud music and recreational drugs. The radical hippies were liberals in the social sense of the word. They championed universalist, rational and progressive ideals, such as democracy, tolerance, self-fulfillment and social justice. >Emboldened by over twenty years of economic growth, they believed that history was on their side. In sci-fi novels, they dreamt of 'ecotopia': a future California where cars had disappeared, industrial production was ecologically viable, sexual relationships were egalitarian and daily life was lived in community groups. For some hippies, this vision could only be realised by rejecting scientific progress as a false God and returning to nature.

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>>903733 >>903751 >>903674 You guys seem to think I'm shitting on the humanities. If you bothered to look at the degree I linked. The degree is a mix of mathematics, logic, philosophy , social sciences, computer science, and natural science courses. If a philosophy degree doesn't teach you how to use basic algebra or how to do experiments; it isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Descartes used analytic geometry is a method to try to prove his ideas and explore philosophical concepts not just to solve math problems. This is why it was part of an appendix to one of his philosophy books. If you can't follow the math you can't understand his ideas. People need to be more well rounded and it's just projection that it's just a problem with stem people. Heck it's a problem within all fields even in closely related fields. People are too specialized and it's hurting research. People don't even take enough math classes in most stem degrees. Marxism is scientific socialism . Marx thought what he was doing was a science. He was trying to analyze history like a scientist would the natural world. When Marx got his philosophy degree, there wasn't this rather sad artificial barrier between various subjects. >>904012 I a hundred percent agree with this poster.

Cybersocialism General Anonymous 08/12/2020 (Wed) 01:08:22 No. 765636 [Reply] [Last]
New /cybersocialism/ general since the old one has hit bump limit MANDATORY READING http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/ For a complete reading list, see: https://web.archive.org/web/20190806121249/http://reality.gn.apc.org/Readinglist.htm cockshott's website reading list is down, the only place you can see it now is on archive.org Cockshott's Patreon https://www.patreon.com/williamCockshott/ Cockshott's youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ Cockshott's Blogs https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/ http://paulcockshott.co.uk/ This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and of course the great immortal scientist himself, WILLIAM PAUL COCKSHOTT

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>>904644 he's a crypto-trot so good at it that he has all the st*lin*ids on /leftypol/ fooled
>>904692 nah >The negative image Stalin now has in the West had to be constructed. Back in the 1940s the popular view, including the press view, was favorable (Figure 3). Communist ideas enjoyed broader supporter support than at any time since. CP membership peaked at 56,000 in the late 40s. They won two MPs and over 100,000 votes in the 1945 General Election, with its candidates getting an average vote of 14.6%. The Party also took over half a million votes in the following year’s local council elections winning 215 council seats. At this point, during Stalin’s lifetime, association with him did not harm socialists. Stalin was the veritable spectre of communism and the fear this spectre instilled in our ruling classes allowed Attlee and Cripps to embark on the nearest thing to a transition to socialism that Britain has ever seen. >[...] As a result, several generations grew up in the Anglo Saxon countries with anti-communism and anti-stalinism as part of their education. For the working class who did not go to university this came in the form of crude tabloid stories. For those who, with the expansion of university education, got a higher education there were the more sophisticated stories developed by paid historians like Conquest or the openly fictional works of the fascist Solzhenitsyn. <“One in five (23%) of Americans age 21-29 consider Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin a ‘hero’; 26% for Vladimir Lenin; 23% for Kim Jong Un,” >This is understandably worrying for the capitalist press in the USA. The last thing they want is to return to the situation of the 1940s when Stalin was widely seen as a hero. https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2019/02/28/response-to-garry-maclachlan/
>>904714 The only reason why he shills for Stalin is because he's homophobic and wants gays to be gassed. Hating gays is Cockshott's fatal flaw
>>904935 No it isn't. Is sexism of marx fatal?
>>904935 Nah Cockshott is just gender essentialist about the woman question, he isn't sexist he's a second wave style feminist. It's standard Boomer stuff and despite my disagreements with some of the posts in his weird blog he's still the greatest contemporary ML thinker imo.


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