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Anonymous 01/08/2020 (Wed) 19:21:00 No. 4822 [Reply] [Last]
i am learning a few languages, for now it's not hard to learn'em at the same time But, all the autodidact learners recommends at some point reading and listening the language on the daily basis. what lefty media do you read? BTW, I'm learning german, italian, russian and japanese
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>>4997 idk; any change of Lingua Franca will happen over the course of decades, and I do believe that Chinese writing is genuinely too obtuse for it to proliferate in a way that an alphabetical language (even with terrible and inconsistent rules) can do on a global scale in the modern epoch. People who say one language or another is objectively bad or good are tards, but I am absolutely of the belief that a language's writing system (or certain classes of writing system) can be objectively bad, as they are things which are explicitly designed, unlike spoken language which just kinda happens. Anyhow, I don't see any contender challenging English other than Chinese, and I don't think Chinese can quite hack it, especially as well cause the damage of people globally knowing English is kind of already done. LF of the past were more regional, even if over very large regions, whereas English is the language to know the entire world over, and lots of people do know it already, and lots more continue to learn it. >>4998 At a Half-Price Books lol. and only some of the pages were magazine print full color, typically at the intros with some in-the-middle splashes, rest were standard black and white. Apparently Gainax did do a full color manga release too though http://www.evamonkey.com/gainax-releases-sadamotos-evangelion-manga-full-color/
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>>4999 upload the front&back book cover i need to get my hands on it
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>>5000 Here ya go
>>4994 If you want a great primer I'd recommend Describing Morphosyntax by Thomas Payne. It's an overview of all the insane shit that languages are capable of (like switch reference, basically mandatory conjugating of a verb a sentence early). Absolutely memorize the International Phonetic Alphabet. Trying to learn foreign writing systems (or even hard ones like French) become SO much easier when you can read sounds directly. Learn glossing rules and abbreviations (like ACC = accusative, PST = past tense, etc). Learn basix syntactic alignments and word orders (Nominative vs Ergative, SVO vs SOV, etc). Learn basic X-bar theory and syntactic trees.
Try reading highschool philosophy and sociology textbooks in your target language. They're written in a very simplified manner compared to primary sources. Another thing I did for practice was translating simple english wikipedia articles into the target language on Duolingo, but I don't know if Duolingo still has that. I also kinda unintentionally learned some very basic Italian just by constantly comparing a translation to the original. This happened only because the translation was so sloppy that I had to check the original after every sentence, so I got a feel for the grammar and was constantly looking up words in a dictionary. It helped though that I was already learning other Romance languages before.

Anonymous Refugee 08/26/2020 (Wed) 22:43:44 No. 4531 [Reply] [Last]
Мой папа был советский туркменский солдат. Он был в Афганистане с 1982 по 1989 гг.

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Are you learning Chinese? Anonymous 07/13/2020 (Mon) 06:51:44 No. 5004 [Reply] [Last]
Are you learning Chinese? This will be an important skill for anyone in the post-American world, especially leftists.
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>>5264 > Memorizing 3000 characters that can have a dozen pronunciations and meanings instead of memorizing 10,000 characters with unique meanings doesn't seem much better. Believe you me I was not saying it's good; I think the Chinese logography is awfully obtuse and has only been retained in China and Japan for generally reactionary reasons. That being said, I was correcting anon for being inaccurate about the specific manner in which it sucks.
How hard is Japanese compared to Chinese?
>>5004 The chinese are learning japanese though...
>>5267 very hard japanese is much harder chinese is easy but it sounds trashy af
>>5260 In which province and city? Living in China is similar to say you're living in Europe, too vague. Are England and Italia similar to each other? Zhongyuan people, Jiangnan people, Bashu people, Guanzhong, etc. they all have different mindset. Not to mention the rural vs. city distinction.

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fil de discussion /fr/ançais Anonymous Refugee 03/30/2020 (Mon) 16:06:44 No. 2012 [Reply] [Last]
francophones de /ref/, bienvenue à /fr/! mon français n'est pas parfait mais je veux pratiquer pour le jour quand les Québs conquerrez la reste du Canada.
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>>4010 Parce que les révolutions communistes ne se produisent pas dans les pays les plus développés et avancés mais dans ceux dont l'industrialisation est bloquée par l’organisation politique, que ce soit en Russie, en Espagne ou en Allemagne après le traité de Versailles et la crise de 29, la Chine après s'être fait roulé dessus par le Japon et s'être rendu compte de la gravité de leur aversion aux nouvelles techniques. Le pays le plus avancé d'alors, les USA, n'ont eu que de ponctuelles révoltes locales dans un secteur précis, qui se sont conclues rapidement par de petits aménagements. Le second pays le plus avancé, la Grande Bretagne n'en a pas eu plus. Les pays voisins des géants industriels et ne suivant pas leur exemple, en revanche, on eu des révolutions sous une forme ou une autre pour surpasser les raisons qui les gardaient dans la misère et le sous développement.
Est-ce qu'il y a des Charles sur /leftypol/ ? Impossible de les prendre au sérieux vu leur nombre et la disparité des idéologies sous cette bannière mais les plus vocaux sont des ML (ou du moins le prétendent) edgy et éduqués qui correspondraient à la ligne éditoriale de /leftypol/. Mais en même temps ils refusent catégoriquement d'apprendre l'anglais.
>>4424 Des Charles, c'est à dire ? Je suis trop vieux pour connaître tous ces termes argotiques.
>>4010 L'autre anon a fourni une analyse matérialiste qui tient la route donc je vais parler d'un autre truc. En France pendant la première guerre mondiale il y a vraiment eu un effort d'unir la population contre la menace externe des allemands, l'opportunité révolutionnaire était en 14 mais quand la la guerre a été déclaré, que Jaurès est mort, et que les travailleurs ont (presque) pas protesté c'était la fin. Pendant la guerre si t'étais un homme jeune à l'arrière sans habits militaires t'étais mal vu et traité comme un paria, toute la presse était contrôlée et dirigée vers l'effort de guerre. Après la guerre il fallait honorer tous les gens morts pour la guerre impérialiste... Pardon, morts pour la France. Et donc l’État à créé plein de monuments qu'on a encore dans toutes nos villes et tous nos villages dont le plus célèbre est probablement le machin du soldat inconnu aux champs. Après ça t'as un mouvement de droite conservatrice qui prend le pouvoir fort de toute l'idéologie patriotique tirée de ce dont j'ai parlé et qui va jusqu'à prendre au parlement le nom de la couleur de l'uniforme que les soldats portaient: "bleu horizon" et qui se nomme officiellement le "Bloc national républicain". En gros pendant que l'Etat restait fort les bourgeois ont capitalisé sur l'union nationale et ils ont niqué tout le monde en vendant l'idée de l'union nationale, les révolutionnaires se sont retrouvés en minorité et marginalisés n'ont pu rien faire tandis que le pouvoir s'est effondré en Russie et en Allemagne laissant aux communistes l'opportunité de de le prendre.
Qu'est ce que vous pensez de ces films? La société du spectacle https://youtu.be/xGN5N3vrbLE De la servitude moderne https://youtu.be/e5LcXFXgqw0 Conquérir notre autonomie https://youtu.be/BXv4Txr9CYU

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Papi 08/13/2020 (Thu) 21:26:43 No. 4383 [Reply] [Last]
1. socialism is shit because people are shit 2. communist ideology and society failed because materialism didn't make anyone happy ever in history
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>>4397 I mean purposely turning yourself into a retarded vegetable is the least miserable way of living. But I rather be miserable but being closer to the true nature of the world than doing that.
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>>4383 >"socialism is shit because people are shit" >A society based on social ownership can't work because he automatically assumes everyone is as much of an antisocial dickhead as he is without providing anything resembling an argument to prove this >"communist ideology and society failed" >Provides no examples, just assumes everyone will know what he's talking about because that's what his lifetime of indoctrination told him >"materialism didn't make anyone happy ever in history" >Material reality ain't real >Matter doesn't exist and everything is just a bunch of concepts projected inside your head >Your material conditions don't have any effect on your happiness prole, just think happy thoughts and you'll be a-ok You sound like you're just making a lot of claims with no arguments. Maybe your spooked idealist ass should go read some books and come back later, I'd first suggest reading about what materialism actually means.
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>>4434 >Penis Papi b-based
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>>4387 monkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?!?!?!

What's your opinion on patriotism? Anonymous Refugee 07/10/2020 (Fri) 02:10:50 No. 4067 [Reply] [Last]
Is it stupid? Is it Bourgeoisie? Is it ok? Let's hear it!
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>>4344 > I wish the education system was improved Isn't the Finnish education system widely accepted as the best in the world?
>>4346 it's the same thing as calling Scandinavian social-democracy "socialist"
>>4346 It was among the best until a while back, but there have been cuts on top of cuts and now we literally have kids who can't read or write. I'm not sure how they don't learn it at school, but... well, apparently they don't. Obviously that's a small percentage and most of them probably have like ADD, ADHD, autism or other conditions (or just smartphone addiction), but kids like that used to get special education. Physical education has been cut from, too, to me personally that's not that big a deal since I was always a weak shit who majorly sucked at all sports, but I understand sports are important for a lot of people and for kids it's more important to get exercise than for adults... thankfully I've heard school food has gotten significantly healthier, that's the one improvement I've heard about. Also, I'm not sure how history education has changed, if at all, but when I was in school we were taught nationalistic propaganda that could at times be argued to have been literal historical revisionism. I doubt it's gotten any better with time. There's more I could say, but generally speaking, it's just gotten so much worse in a fairly short period of time that some would call it a crisis. I think the current (progressive and left-leaning) government is genuinely trying to improve it again, but they're not really doing a good job AFAIK... and of course, thanks to corona, right-wingers will blame leftists for fucking up a whole year. They're already saying the government didn't do enough to stop corona, but when they did increase restrictions right-wingers were complaining about "authoritarianism". Corona is a lose-lose situation for leftists, and kids might pay the biggest price in the coming years if this year's shortcomings aren't compensated somehow. >>4347 Dunno about Scandinavia, but Finland could be considered actually socialistic in some ways, at least when it comes to our legal system and that kind of stuff. I mean, universal healthcare, social services are free, there are all kinds of "safety nets" for everything, the government owns or at least controls a lot of businesses, etc. It's just that because we don't have a socialist government, the government keeps going "we'll open up X for competition, free markets are the solution to all problems" and the supreme court is like "wait, that's illegal" but the government keeps trying to push it anyway. On the other hand, though, you could argue we have state-sponsored capitalism because the state wants to leave sectors to the markets as soon as they stop being profitable for them and invest in sectors expected to be profitable... I'd say it's not black and white, since I know for a fact there are people in the government who do actually care about things like poverty and other issues and want to make things better and are openly leftists. That said, the Social Democratic Party is more popular than the Left Alliance and the Left Alliance isn't full-blown communist or anarchist or anything. I personally think that's good, I mean communism and anarchism might work in theory and maybe in the future if we can overcome things like nationalism they might work in practice, but a gradual progression is more likely to succeed.

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I do not love my country. I am not a patriot.
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I'm only patriotic when talking about the civil war

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/γρεκ/ Anonymous Refugee 05/21/2020 (Thu) 16:58:16 No. 3130 [Reply] [Last]
Πολύ σοβαρό θρεντ για πολύ σοβαρές συζητήσεις.
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Άντε ας τον κάνουμε και αυτόν βουλευτή δεν πάει στο διάλο
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ΚΑΛΗ ΠΑΝΑΓΙΑ ΣΥΝΤΡΟΦΟΙ
>>4418 Noθινγκ

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Anonymous Refugee 09/13/2019 (Fri) 16:21:25 No. 377 [Reply] [Last]
Polish secret imageboard invites everyone

how to enter the website? instruction in the link below
https://karalock.blogspot.com/
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>>377 I spent an entire day (25 hrs) posting before I realized that I don't speak spanish.
>>1912 Am I the only one who see the stupidity of painting a Pole as a Nazi? They didn't exactly liked each other.
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>>4310 Polish anti communism-butthurtism is that retarded.

/biz/ alternatives Papi 08/14/2020 (Fri) 06:35:17 No. 4390 [Reply] [Last]
Does cuckchan /biz/ have alternatives? What other chans have a business board?
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Theres only one alternatives I can think of its on plebbit so idk how much you'll take it into consideration but r/wallstreetbets
4biz.xyz

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Deutscher Faden Anonymous Refugee 09/05/2019 (Thu) 15:55:40 No. 316 [Reply] [Last]
Servus,
möchte mal sehen ob und wie viele andere deutschsprachige es hier so gibt, was euch hier umtreibt, wie es um den Sozialismus in Deutschland eurer Meinung nach steht und was euch sonst so beschäftigt.
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MV hat insgesamt nur 100 infizierte oder so. Wir sind das beste Bundesland der emaligen DDR prove me wrong
>>1595 >hold me comrades no, keep the social distance
>>3664 der einfachste/schnellste weg eine brd staatsangehörigkeit zu bekommen ist in dem du ne staatsbürger/in heiratest, so könntest du schnell mit ner einbürgerung prüfung oder sowas eingebürgert werden.
>>3790 kannst niemanden infizieren wo niemand ist
>>3594 Frankfurt ist viel schöner als Nürnberg, Stuttgart, Köln, Düsseldorf, die meisten der ostdeutschen Städte...

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