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Why The Right Hates Masks Anonymous 07/31/2020 (Fri) 00:28:59 No. 734026
Lacanian exploration of why the right hates masks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo9ik8nGEmY tl;dw the mask signifies universality, which is incompatible with capitalism's subjectivity. Thoughs?
Capitalism rewards being an individualist. A mask only protects the other. The principle is built on solidarity: I protect you, you protect me. Collectivist societies like East Asia don't mind, but "muh way or highway" type cowboy Ameritards do, bc muh freedom.
My theorylet take is that most rightwingers (talking specifically about Americans here) realize consciously or not how little freedom they actually have, so going mask-free and using the "freedom" argument is a coping mechanism to make up for the fact of how big their unfreedom is.
It's about refusing to normalize anonymity. Especially with this rioting. If everybody wears a mask, then that opens pandora's box with rioters wearing masks.
>>734026 It's actually just contrarianism. "Liberals like masks therefore we do not" is their entire though process.
>>734048 I don't think so. some rightoids get really emotional about having to wear masks.
It's not rightoids, it's just some Americans. I honestly don't the underlying material causes but Americans are fucked in the head. They are the only people making wearing masks some weird political thing
>>734026 It's mostly because they think that they are le ebic free thinkers going against le sheeple by just automatically picking the "contrarian" position. It's a parody of 1984 in a way, they hold it up as this godly book yet fall prey to the same dogmatism and language-policing Orwell was trying to criticise.
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>>734051 American culture is a hideous individualistic mess that grew out of the cultural justification of murdering an entire continent so you could set up your epic little farm and live all by your lonesome nothing but your wits and a 45 colt or something like that. White American culture for instance is specifically anti-communal. White Americans care more about low taxes than feeding their own elderly. White Americans do not care when other whites are shot by the police. At my company, black higher ups will at least talk and socialize with black employees while a while higher up will not even think to give a second glance to a white employee. White Americans do not care when other whites die of opiods or poverty or despair, etc. They want to LARP as a cowboy in the suburbs keeping all the uighurs down and the Indians out. God I hate Americans.
>>734051 Aren't most if not all the anti-mask gang right wingers?
>>734026 good vid
Just imagine if Trump locked down major cities in late February. We'd see the reverse; the right upholding masks, and the Democrats screaming that Trump is a tyrant who wants to destroy democracy. This isn't even about masks though. It's about government incompetence. Trumptards are so uighurish though that they buy into every narrative fed to them, so now they make it about muh mask mandates (which are about the only halfway competent thing this government has done).
>>734082 Let's stop pretending that the libs are the same ultral contrarians the cons are. If trump did shut down in February, don lemon would be on air saying "this is the moment he became presidential". They have the opposite problem in that the ready to forgive and give head Pat's the moment a con agrees with them on an issue.
What even is the argument against masks? Other than 'its muh freedum'
>>734026 >Thoughs? I ain't gonna watch a dude talk for over 20 minutes. Write a blog instead of doing these videos. Anyways the right hates masks because they are fundamentally contrarian and conspiratorial minded. Like climate change, they think covid-19 is either completely a hoax or overblown for the purpose of denying them pleasures like personal swimming pools and going to restaurants. Essentially they think any perceived inconvenience to them has to be some sort of plot to fuck with them, because it is almost impossible for them to conceive of anyone's welfare outside of a zero-sum game.
>>734099 >I ain't gonna watch a dude talk for over 20 minutes. Write a blog instead of doing these videos. lol, how do you even attend 90 minutes lectures and shit my dude, 20 minutes are nothing
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It's funny... the more survivalist-minded libertarians in America seemed to take COVID more seriously than others, sooner than others, but they're kind of a fringe even on the right and have been supplanted by the broader anti-mask hysteria brought upon by reactive partisanship. The libertarians also seemed to approach the mask thing from an individualist point of view, like they were "in the know" about it compared to the sheeple.
I asked on 4chan why they refused to wear masks and they just spammed wojaks and called me a transhumanist
>>734106 and those 90 minute lectures would be better as transcripts
>>734050 >some rightoids get really emotional about having to do something that they see leftoids telling them to do which is exactly >>734048 's point
>>734106 I haven't attended a lecture in years and for the majority of those a transcript would have been an easier way to process and review the information. In the case of the minority of lectures that were better than a transcript, the speaker was engaging and didn't have a voice that made me go to sleep over a bad power point presentation.
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>>734117 >and called me a transhumanist they know too much
>>734135 just watch it at 2x speed you baby
>>734135 yes, lectures are awful the first thing we'll do after achieving communism (after deleting all trace of raid: shadow legends, naturally) will be banning lectures in favor of other pedagogical methods
>>734164 Lectures are the most advanced way to learn. Reading is an outdated format.
>>734158 B-B-BASED??
>>734097 N95s (not surgical masks) actually do decrease your blood oxygen
>>734097 I’ve had several tell me they are worried about being deprived of oxygen. I ask them how doctors and contractors deal with having to wear them for hours on the job everyday. And then I realize such an argument likely came from an oxygen deprived brain, so they might be on to something.
It's unmanly. Except when the President does it.
>>734026 pomo idealist bullshit
>>734164 BASED >>734167 cringe
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>>734187 >Lacan >pomo idealist bullshit
>>734187 Lacan was a materialist. Read a book.
>>734051 > I honestly don't the underlying material causes but Americans are fucked in the head. The "success" of capitalism in the states following ww2 is a major factor. The working class won a lot of concessions in the early twentieth century which mobilized the ruling class to take back those provisions by purging Marxist and anti-capitalist thought in general as completely as possible and using extremely effective and ubiquitous propaganda to create a dogmatic view of capitalism as the only viable option. If you want to be a Marxist in America, odds are you're making that journey on your own. We're mostly self educated on leftist thought, and even people who see capitalism as deeply flawed have been trained to view it as just being the way things are.
Woah dude, ebin cultural analysis bro! Soon you will reach power levels of making entire films where you blabber on about how toilets are netherportals and how we all just want to fuck our parents! Anyway, the analysis is fucking useless Amerocentric bullshit. Anyone from left to right respect the masks in a normal country, capitalist or not.
>>734657 >Lacanian analysis is useless >posts Zizek
>>734663 I don't give a shit who Lacan is, I only know that OP's statement just sounds like more of Zizekian autism that is as useful to understand the real world as reading chicken entrails. The reason why "the right" hates masks is because god emperor Trump tried to hide the failure to stockpile on pandemic relief gear and told his clapping seals that masks are bad. Now these baboons think that statements to wear masks are liberal psyops. If this was something about capitalist logic, then why does this kind of autism not happen in other neoliberal hellholes?
>>734051 >It's not rightoids, it's just some Americans. Thanks to american cultural imperialism these types of rightoid retards are everywhere the same. It's just that they happen to speak German as their first language here, but their political leanings, hypocrisy, proud ignorance and pathologic narcissism is indistinguishable from standard burger lolbert/fascist Q-tards.
>>734657 >leave the cultural analysis to the right, like Jordan Peterson! >communists should just concede territories of class struggle to the enemy
>>734678 >i don't have to know shit, all I need is a box where I can put things that seem confusing to me, labeled "charlatanism" Talk about chickens.
>>734678 what a simpleton
>>734680 Then do cultural analysis as a propaganda campaign, just don't pretend it is anything profound. >>734681 >I need to read a French humanityfag to understand why an old Croatian baboon talking about toilet netherportals is actually really smart Zizek is the retard who unironically said the words "Macron is one of the good capitalist". His reaction to the COVID crisis is a fucking joke, amounting to a "wow, I guess shit is happening now". I'd understand supporting him only for, as I said, propaganda purposes, but when it comes to being a source of knowledge he, and other humanityfags like him, are a joke. Reminder that people doing material analysis predicted the Floyd protests 10 years ago. >>734682 >>734684 >Wtf, he doesn't masturbate to philosophy books, what a simpleton I wish I could have seen how Pol Pot guns down all of the French humanityfags who traveled to Cambodia. What an amazing irony, gunned down by the same satanspawn your own retarded ideas created.
I prepped like a madman initially and masked up when no one else was masking. But it turned out to be a nothingburger, with an overall death rate about the same as a bad bout of seasonal flu. I no longer bother wearing a mask, and mock openly all those still engaging in maskfaggotry. t. genuine Chad Panicker
>>734691 based.
>>734691 That’s not how pandemic works brainlet. If anything other people not wearing masks before is exactly why you need to wear masks now.
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>>734690 I was going to respond but in my experience it's not worth talking to shameless liars.
>>734026 How does Sweden fit into this? Our JUST-in-command have been pretty much absent. Dr Tengele have been investing tons of units of Žižek of ideology in order to "prove" that masks doesn't work. I can see the points in the video. But from classical liberal standpoint you can defend curfews and isolation - if those stop people from unintentionally hurting and killing each other. Then there's the case of smaller business making a profit on face masks, soap and rubbing alcohol. The uniformity in clothes argument doesn't hold. There's been fads where "everyone" wears the same beanie, but dresses individually. Then masks can be of different designs. - Also a need that smaller business are more fit to adress. >>734048 This! The contrarianism of a lot of americans doesn't hold a candle to the national contrarianism of Sweden. It is our fucking >implicit state ideology.
>>734094 >Let's stop pretending that the libs are the same ultral contrarians the cons are. If trump did shut down in February, don lemon would be on air saying "this is the moment he became presidential". They have the opposite problem in that the ready to forgive and give head Pat's the moment a con agrees with them on an issue. This! He partly presented himself as a healing and uniting president in 2016. And he had a great moment after the Pulse massacre. Compare to Clinton who basically said "don't be racist".
>>734059 >black higher ups will at least talk and socialize with black employees while a while higher up will not even think to give a second glance to a white employee. White Americans do not care when other whites die of opiods or poverty or despair, etc. Bullshit idpol. Black American bourg are just as individualistic and selfish. They only use the whole solidarity with their own race shit as a grift to advance their career, if they bother with it at all.
>>734176 literal fake news conspiracy theory.
>>734698 >>734691 I hope you die of coronavirus
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>>734026 The mask is a good reminder that government is in control (safety gives people this warm and fuzzy feeling because it reminds you of your parents) and that there is a deadly virus spreading. It isn't useful for much else. If you don't want to get sick you have to socially distance and not wear a piece of cloth on your mouth and go acting like there is no pandemic.
>>734751 I dare you to try working out with a N95 mask on.
>>734749 No doubt there are asshole black bourg around too, but he's not far off the mark. Whites are socialized to act indifferently, even negatively, toward other whites, because 'racism'. Brainwashed white liberals perceive a negative in-group bias as moral and virtuous. If your boss is liberal, the religion of bourg whites everywhere, chances are high that he hates himself. Make no mistake, as his white underling, he hates you too.
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>>734709 >2017 article from French election Well maybe he changed his mind? Because in his COVID response interview stream he literally said, paraphrasing: "It's not only the good capitalists like Macron that are taking socialist-esque action against the virus, but also the bad ones like Boris Johnson".
>>734713 ok swedeanon explain swedish contrarianism
>>734764 the mask stops you from coofing on other people and doorhandles in the store, it doesn't do shit to stop other germs from getting on you...
>>734026 Thats what happens when you are high on too much negative liberty
>>734764 Who benefits from spreading the idea that this is a conspiracy? If an idea that the majority of scientists are telling you is true would hurt rich people, don't be so quick to side with them when they call bullshit.
>>734059 >>734749 >>734781 Also this idea of a friendly boss being a good thing is retarded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phdVc851BQQ
Right wingers in america are weird they seem to hate most of the country They hate >black people >brown people >most immigrants >white liberals and leftists >most women (they hate any woman who isn't 'trad') The fact that they cheer when 'democrat cities' get burned and are happy the virus is killing black people disproportionately and cheer and clap when white women get killed abroad by terrorists or whatever because they were liberal is kinda scary. They truly want most of the country dead. Now they are even hating on big american corporations because they are 'globalist and jewish' They are burning bridges everywhere, they can't win
>>735056 based fuck america
> the right You mean the right in the USA. It is pretty far from being universal.
>>735056 It's an evangelic death cult.
>>735056 What's gonna happen is the "never trump" right, are going to coop the democratic party, they will fall into place because "for every blue collar vote we lose, we pick up two suburban vote" it will lead to a old republican-like party (democrats) and outright neofascist (republicans)
Disagree. Gayropean union is right wing, yet people wear masks. Lithuania is turbo reactionary yet people are complacent with mask wearing. It's not right who hates masks. It's burgerland.
>>734026 >>734029 Is there a way to salvage subjectivity, or should we just dump Frankfurt and embrace the We?
>>735159 We need to recognize the synthesis of the collective and the individual. Only through collectivism can the individual be truly individual. You need to be interdependent on others in order to specialize and be unique instead of taking care of all your needs yourself. The most individualist society has the least individuality because all the people have the same basic needs and must spend almost all of their effort seeing to them, which renders the people mostly identical.
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>>735162 I didn't know I was still playing Cultist Simulator and would be faced with a challenge that required a paradoxical solution.
>>734026 There is no "right" in burgerland - just different variants of liberalism (actual definition not the burgerist mangling). There is no "left" either - again just variants of liberalism. Anyone not into intersectional socjus insanity is called "right" now - even actual marxists. All these terms are meaningless now. We're in peak pomo. Peak farce.
>>734026 Because right wing people are more physically attractive on average
>>735235 >mutts >physically attractive
>>734029 This capitalism depends on selfish individualism, any form of collective action for the greater good is anathema to it
its really not that complicated asks are pretty gay tbh
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>>734026 I disagree it's not a mask, it's a (virus) particle-filter, the fact that it is partially blocking your view of the faces of other people is just incidental, and down to technological aspects of filters. There's no fundamental reason you could not have filters that do not interfere with the ability to recognize others faces. You could have a transparent face cover with the filter material to the side so that faces remain visible. Also the author is side-lining the universal to something that can only manifest in crisis, that's right-wing thinking. The Universal isn't just found in the lack of the individual it's also found in what people have in common in everyday life.
I like how he describe Fraternity as 'We may be different but we have X in common' tbh. Makes a lot of sense.
>>734094 This. George fucking Bush leveled some weaksauce criticism against Trump and now all the war crimes have been forgotten (not that the Democrats ever genuinely cared).
>>734094 And vice versa When will burgers realise that dems and reps are one party - the neolib war party
I'm a Right Wing person that comes here to get a different perspective. Here's why the Right doesn't like masks: In January, February and March, Right Wing people on Twitter were all onboard of wearing masks. We were aware of the Coronavirus in January while the Mainstream Media and Democrats were doing the stupid impeachment bullshit where they were walking the papers through the buildings on tv... Right Wing people were called racists and conspiracy theorists for saying to prepare for the Corona virus. New York City and Italy were literally doing parades where they were HUGGING CHINESE PEOPLE to "own the racists". The MSM told everyone not to buy masks because they don't work in public and are only for healthcare providers. Then in April they flipped the script despite the data that death rates were lower than expected, they over reacted and said everyone has to wear a mask now or you are basically a murderer. Why? Because they saw a more profitable political avenue. Talk about the dangers of coronavirus all the way up until election. Say it's Trump's fault and push for rigging the election with absentee votes. It's literally just to get Trump and shut down the American economy. As a Right Wing person, I'm fucking done. Fuck everyone. I'm not wearing a fucking mask anymore. The neoliberal government calls me a racist and purposefully wont shut down our borders, then when the danger gets here we tyrannically police our own citizens and shut down small businesses? That's fucking bullshit. Then what do people do? Buy shit from Amazon all day and Jeff Bezos gets richer...All because Liberals and Left Wing retards want to get Trump out of office. So it's spite. Pure spite why Right Wing people don't wear masks. Simple as. We see through the obvious psy op and political posturing against Trump. We are fucking sick of the obvious politics. "Dont let a good crisis go to waste". Everyone sees through it except for the "le enlightened liberal!" or "le science lover Leftist!" Our country can't do anything to protect our own citizens like locking down our borders without being called racists then forces us to comply with draconian regulations? No. Fuck that. And fuck you. This is the worst aspects of International Libertarianism and Domestic Tyranny. I'm Right Wing and I spit on public handrails. I spit on elevator buttons. You know why? Because the risks of coronavirus are vastly overblown at this point and it's so obvious why they are overblowing it. If this country hates me and won't listen to me, I want to see it destroyed. Right Wing Twitter and Tom Cotton warned everyone in Early January about coronavirus and they got called racist and even banned from Twitter in some cases. I have so many pictures of all MSM outlets literally saying masks don't work/you don't need to wear a mask back in March.
>>735756 >In January, February and March, Right Wing people on Twitter were all onboard of wearing masks. We were aware of the Coronavirus in January while the Mainstream Media and Democrats were doing the stupid impeachment bullshit where they were walking the papers through the buildings on tv... So were we. >Right Wing people were called racists and conspiracy theorists for saying to prepare for the Corona virus. New York City and Italy were literally doing parades where they were HUGGING CHINESE PEOPLE to "own the racists". This is liberal performatism. Anybody with a brain would have avoided Chinese tourists and so on at this moment. >The MSM told everyone not to buy masks because they don't work in public and are only for healthcare providers. A lie porkies told the people because they are too focused on short-term profits to prepare for emergencies, so that protective equipment was running low. The lie was in their view justified so that the governments' failures of not preparing for any crises would be overlooked: "The masks are for the doctors, not the public." >Because they saw a more profitable political avenue. Talk about the dangers of coronavirus all the way up until election. Say it's Trump's fault and push for rigging the election with absentee votes. It's literally just to get Trump and shut down the American economy. The coronavirus has hit every country on Earth and the entire world is in an economic crisis. There is no secret plot to destroy Trump or whatever, although of course any of his political opponents will seek to use the chaos to their advantage. >As a Right Wing person, I'm fucking done. Fuck everyone. I'm not wearing a fucking mask anymore. Childish behavior. "You can't tell me what to do mom REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" >So it's spite. Pure spite why Right Wing people don't wear masks. Simple as. <Dying of coronavirus to own the libs >Our country can't do anything to protect our own citizens like locking down our borders without being called racists then forces us to comply with draconian regulations? No. Fuck that. And fuck you. Don't worry, nobody wants to travel to your shithole country right now anyway. and coof their lungs out. >If this country hates me and won't listen to me, I want to see it destroyed. Right Wing Twitter and Tom Cotton warned everyone in Early January about coronavirus and they got called racist and even banned from Twitter in some cases. Here I agree: I also want to see it destroyed, but for other reasons. >I have so many pictures of all MSM outlets literally saying masks don't work/you don't need to wear a mask back in March. This is like starting smoking because the bought porkie scientists of the 50s said it was healthy, then later finding out cigarettes are unhealthy, getting angry about being lied to by the porkie scientists and starting to smoke cigarettes out of spite.
>>735756 This is pasta, but people who are like this are a blight.
>>735245 >>734029 wrong It's just that RW people see through the mainstream narrative. It's a reactionary response and we are sick of it. >>734032 This is very close >>734048 Right Wing people are smarter than that. It's more nuanced. >>734082 >>734097 Nope. u r brainlets
>>735773 Damn it, I fell for the pasta.
>>735774 >It's just that RW people see through the mainstream narrative. Tell me then why the right wing in Europe doesn't go all retarded over masks to the degree that right wing Ameritards do?
>>735774 >that reddit spacing
>>735771 >The coronavirus has hit every country on Earth and the entire world is in an economic crisis. There is no secret plot to destroy Trump or whatever, although of course any of his political opponents will seek to use the chaos to their advantage. They manufactured the crisis. In March people thought the death rate was 5-10% Now that it is actually much lower than that, the regulations keep ramping up. It's literally just to get Trump out of office dude. The MSM are so short sighted.
>>735792 1. the specific instance of the virus was new and unknown. we know more now 2. the death rate was never seriously claimed to be 5 to 10% of all infected. the highest numbers i have read - and i followed the scientific literature closely at that time - were 2%. the numbers usually ranged between 0.5% and 2%. perhaps you are mistaking mortality rate and case fatality rate. 3. you think the entire world economy wanted to take a hit of 10 to 20% in GDP loss just to own trump, a guy who isn't really that different from obama from the perspective of other nations? 4. the "regulations" being strong is exactly what prevents shit from going down. the USA would look like friggin somalia if the governments did nothing at all. even the most red states recognize that shit and do at least a few things to help, like order PPE and so on.
>>735771 Why should I adhere to regulations that destroy my business and restrict my freedoms? To protect and aid the political interests of the people who hate me and want me dead? This isn't immature at all. It's a calculated hatred of society. We are very close to civil war because Right wing people have fucking had it dude. The people who keep this country running are done with keeping it up and running. Why should we? Things will go very bad very quickly now once the people who maintain a system stop maintaining it.
>>735807 >We are very close to civil war because Right wing people have fucking had it dude. Your fucking guy is president >The people who keep this country running are done with keeping it up and running. Why should we? I thought you guys loved your country, your motherland? But now you want to abandon it to "own libs"? I don't see it man. If you really loved your country, you would want to save as many people as possible and convince them via rational solutions that "your guys" are the better ones, instead of throwing hissyfits and letting old people to die.
>>735806 >the death rate was never seriously claimed to be 5 to 10% of all infected. This is just a flat out lie. Look back in January or February. >>735806 >you think the entire world economy wanted to take a hit of 10 to 20% in GDP loss just to own trump, a guy who isn't really that different from obama from the perspective of other nations? At first, the neoliberal globalists didn't want lockdowns and stuff. In April, the American media did a complete 180 pushing lockdowns and masks hard and criticizing Trump for everything. The shit happening in America is literally just to get Trump out of office. Idk what's happening in the whole world
>>735821 >Your fucking guy is president And the government is so corrupt he isn't allowed to do shit. All we voted for was a wall and less immigrants and we aren't allowed even that. The neolib machine is so corrupt no political means can stop it. The right wing supreme court has said the us government can't convict Indians who commit crimes in eastern Oklahoma. This is insane. >>735821 >I thought you guys loved your country, your motherland? We do. The Government is not the Nation, retard.
>>735756 You are legitimately angry about the hypocrisy, but the face-masks either work or they don't, based on whether or not they filter virus particles. What other people say has no effect on filters. Based on the contradicting messages you got from these people you can only conclude that they are not reliable sources for information. You should investigate the efficacy of these masks your self, there is plenty of rigorous scientific testing that has been done, that you can find on the internet if you include the phrase "empirical evidence" within the search query. If you want to listen to my opinion, if somebody is infected and both you and the virus carrier person wear a mask, you are a lot less likely to catch it, then without masks. Because it's an obstacle that make it less likely for the virus to jump from one person to another.
>>735854 Masks work. I've never said they don't work. My point is more nuanced and philosophical. My point is "why the fuck should I care? Why the hell should I participate in this hellhole of a country?"
>>735832 >This is just a flat out lie. Look back in January or February. I read scientific papers to inform myself from January to March and was up-to-date with all the developments back then. This is what was inside them. The "death rate" being, for example, 6% in Wuhan, means that 6% of those TESTED positive died. We never knew (and still don't really know) how many people are asymptomatic, and how many of those are tested. The MORTALITY RATE was always said to be between 0.5% to 2%, I don't think this has changed either since I stopped checking the scientific papers. Of course, what clickbait jew media says is another topic. >At first, the neoliberal globalists didn't want lockdowns and stuff. Of course, because it's bad for business. >In April, the American media did a complete 180 pushing lockdowns and masks hard and criticizing Trump for everything. The media has been criticizing Trump for everything since the day he entered office, except when he does things that benefit Israel, like bomb Syrian air fields. The 180 happened because in March, the cases were still low enough to ignore. In April, they exploded and even the most retarded of porkies realized that they had to do something to prevent total anarchy and breakdown of society. Besides, your lockdown wasn't even that serious. >The shit happening in America is literally just to get Trump out of office. Idk what's happening in the whole world See, this is where I don't agree. Porkies entire existence is to make profits. No way porkie will intentionally let a virus hit his profits just so the president can switch. You are mistaking cause and correlation: The neoliberals are using the moment for their benefit, but they have not created the moment.
>>735853 >The Government is not the Nation, retard. And the people coofing to death are not the government either. >The neolib machine is so corrupt no political means can stop it. Maybe you will recognize that any president is just a figurehead in service of US imperialism and capitalism, both Dems and Reps.
>>734208 >>734431 If you can look at me with a straight face and tell me that people don't wear masks because of their "universality" contrasting "capitalist subjectivity" you're an idealist and you deserve to die.
>>734816 >ok swedeanon explain swedish contrarianism Happy to oblige! :-) First, Trump was totally right when he said that Sweden is a small but sharp country. (Can't find the exact quote.) This isn't some kind of brownnosing, it is just a matter of fact. Consider the base elements. UK is at #1, Sweden at #2 beaten by only one element. And if we compensate for population size and wealth, it is even more amazing. And since uncle Pareto is always right, nine of the elements was discovered in the Ytterby mine at Resarö Island just outside of Stockholm. In every normal country, that should've been a little tourist trap, right? No. Not even when the mine in 1990 got the landmark-award from American Society of Metals we couldn't take the hint. I don't recall his name, but it was only after a japanese Nobel Prize laureate made a pilgrimage we took the hint and installed starways etc. Because an honored guest breaking his legs or even his neck there is bad optics for everyone. Then there's the case of polio vaccine. Yes, Jonas Salk did important work. But it was at Karoliniska institutet where the final nails in the coffin was driven in. They should've been awarded a statue or at least having lecture halls named after them? Nope. (But at least the first female-whatever got a street in the campus named after her. Forget that she was a nazi and totally wrong about glacial rebound.) This isn't because of bad self-confidence. But so much self-confidence that it doesn't have to be proved to anyone. Isn't is obvious that everyone wants to become a swede, no? One standard explanation is that our industry and infrastructure was intact after the war. But that only explains so much. And a lot of countries caught up on our head start. I think that the cause runs much deeper. I think that the most important source is the "Engineer-Sweden" that did create a lot of wealth but made us lose a lot in the humanities department. A nation of tone deaf. (We'll get back to this later.) So that's why JUST-in-command can show no statemanship and Dr Tengele can say that some +150 countries are wrong about face masks. The latest addition to the horrorshow is someone (Lena Hallengren?) who said that masks aren't part of swedish culture. True, true. But it wasn't part of czech culture either. And the asians didn't have face masks since the dawn of time! The standard response is that "we rely on our experts". But they don't have any operational power nor political responsibility. When a reporter asked Dr Tengele about working from home he said that it was "unequal" towards those who can't do so. True too, but if everyone is at risk, it doesn't make it better for those who really needs help and protection. We're basically a nation of bullies. There's no hard limits on visitors at bars or restaurants. There's no effort such as creating anti-seats or cordon off areas where people can stand. The employees can only wag their fingers at the retarded youth. So back to the nation of tone deaf engineers. Here's an interesting article from 2017 about the defecting north korean soldier, the one with the worms. Let's see Dr Tengeles take on that: https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/vmWB1j/experten-om-maskarna-i-nordkoreanska-soldatens-kropp-inte-ovantat <Thinks the uproar is too great <He thinks that the case of the North Korean soldier has received too much attention. <- You can find something similar if you visit a refugee camp in, for example, South Sudan. I do not really understand why this is getting so much uproar. But that is probably because it is being lifted in the United States and that there is then a war of words between the country and North Korea. Yeah, ONLY because it was mentioned in the US. There was TOTALLY NOT a south korean doctor who held a press conference, ESPECIALLY NOT Lee Cook-Jong. And it is JUST trash talking from both sides. China is NOT propping up North Korea. And South Sudan and North Korea are TOTALLY EQUAL because neither is Sweden! :DDDDDD So that's Sweden in a nutshell for ya. A nation of tone deaf racist engineers.
>Italy were literally doing parades where they were HUGGING CHINESE PEOPLE to "own the racists Cringe. And mask are cringe too. Italy got many cases not because of chinese turist but because of a shitty Healthcare. Most deaths happened inside hospitals and the region with most deaths was also the one who's healthcare system got disbanded the most in the last 10 years. I don't wear no fucking mask, covid is not real.
>>734026 Stop looking too far into it. Its just petite-bourgeoisie childishness and selfishness, they hate the idea they *have* to do something for anyone else's benefit.
>>736846 Yet Italy was hit from the north, while the central province the significant Chinese community were in saw few cases.
>>736843 Masks don’t prevent infection waves just deflate and slow them down.
>>736849 Sweden didn't wear masks yet they stopped the infections perfectly.
>>736850 Even if true, that doesn’t undermine my point. Sweden is half the world away from the ground zero with a very dispersed population compared to Japan. Not even gonna mention the incoming second wave
If you want to use masks I'm not gonna stop you. But you should at least remove the 5G antenna inside first.
>>736860 Masks could be accelerating the infection... let that sink in
>>736850 Sweden had a worse pandemic compared to surrounding countries.
>>735060 is that little girl going to drink? what is it?
>>735159 where do you get the idea that Adorno and Marcuse give a fuck about “individualism”?
>>736850 >muh Sweden stopped the infections perfectly /pol/ pls
>>737016 Why is it THIS topic that gets all the /pol/ cunts to this board.
Ultimately the question with regards to masks in Sweden is not that they managed to survive Cov-19 infection waves without masks, but why they even had one in the first place. The region is like Plague Inc's Madagascar-tier isolation with respects to Cov-19.
>>737016 >Sweden stopped the infections perfectly wheres the lie
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>>734026 Now ask why they love fish tank cleaner. I think they are just retarded and are following their even more retarded dear leader straight off the cliff, just like they did 80 years ago.
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>why does the right hate masks idk. why do liberals hate medicine
>>737081 >muh liberals lol go inject some bleach, /pol/
>>737083 >>737081 >/pol/yp can't even delete posts properly
>>736850 LMFAO no they didn't you dumb cunt
>>737084 >>737087 another example of leftypol trying to be the opposite of pol rather than actual leftist
>>737083 Bolsanaro was taking this and he got the virus twice
>>737084 >defending liberals SAD
>>737092 oh god the first medicine ever that doesn't have a 100% cure rate. are you actually using your brain or just reacting with emotions?
>>737095 According to the studies, it has a 0% cure rate above the placebos.
>>735853 >And the government is so corrupt he isn't allowed to do shit. IT'S THE GOVERNMENT YOU VOTED FOR YOU DUMB BITCH TRUMP APPOINTED A SHITTON OF HIS CRONIES TO POSITIONS OF POWER BECAUSE "LOL DRAIN THE SWAMP" BUT GUESS WHAT HE'S LITERALLY A SWAMP DWELLER HIMSELF AND SO ARE ALL HIS FRIENDS YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENCY, THE SENATE, THE JUDICIARY AND HALF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA. THE DEMOCRATS ARE DUMB, SPINELESS DELUSIONAL MOTHERFUCKERS WHO END UP GIVING YOU PEOPLE WHAT YOU WANT IN THE LONG RUN ANYWAY. OWN YOUR MESS INSTEAD OF HIDING BEHIND "MUH DEMOCRATS" YOU FUCKING SPINELESS COWARDS
>>737096 no one is saying it cures corona. it helps treat the symptoms.
>>737099 So does a bullet.
>>737090 another example of "lefty"/pol/acks pretending to oppose the /pol/ack strawman of "liberals", accepting fascist framing rather than actually being leftists
>>737097 you realize the governors can do something too right? Or are you just ignoring that
>>737104 ok reddit
>>737099 BASED ON FUCKING WHAT???? SOME SHIT FOR BRAINS COCKSUCKER YOU FOLLOW ON TWITTER WITH A HANDLE LIKE "TRUEMAGAPATRIOT42069" SHARING LINKS FOR SHITTY INTERNET TABLOIDS WITH NAMES LIKE "TRUTHEAGLE DOT MAGACUM"????
>>737108 >ok reddit
>>737105 another example of a liberal calling everything that they don't like pol its like you resort to typical liberal tier knee jerk tribalism over opinions on the virus rather than looking at it from a materialist perspective. sad
>>737109 i see you can't seem to construct an argument lmao
>>737114 neither can you
>>737116 >no u retorts i rest my case QED
>>737106 THE FUCK DID I JUST SAY ABOUT DEMOCRATS YOU GOP-SIMPING CUNT THEY'RE JUST AS CORRUPT AS INCOMPETENT AS YOU PEOPLE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THEY'RE INCOMPETENT DULLARDS RATHER THAN DELUSIONAL PSYCHOPATHS LIKE YOU AND EVEN IF THEY DID SOMETHING, GUESS WHAT??? THE SO-CALLED "FREE MARKET" HAS SHOWN ITSELF COMPLETELY INCAPABLE OF COMING UP WITH ANY MEANINGFUL SOLUTION TO PROBLEMS CAUSED BY EXTERNAL SHOCKS LIKE THIS THAT RELY ON SUBORDINATING THE PROFIT MOTIVE TO PRODUCTION FOR DIRECT PROVISION BASED ON NEED THIS IS A PERFECT STORM OF SYSTEMIC AND INDIVIDUAL CORRUPTION, DYSFUNCTION AND NEGLECT. EVERYONE'S HANDS ARE DIRTY IN THIS, AND ALL YOU PATHETIC TRUMP-SIMPING COWARDS CAN DO IS JUST SHRIEK ABOUT HOW MEAN EVERYONE IS TO YOUR BIG WET DADDY TRUMP PEOPLE ARE FUCKING DYING, AND ALL YOU CAN DO IT WHINE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET ABOUT LIBERALS SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>737118 kill yourself polnígger
>>737114 THERE IS NO FUCKING ARGUMENT TO ENGAGE WITH IN THE FIRST PLACE, THERE'S JUST YOU PARROTING SHITTY TALKING POINTS AND YOU'RE NOT OWED ONE BY ANYBODY, GET OVER YOURSELF
>>737121 >THE FUCK DID I JUST SAY ABOUT DEMOCRATS YOU GOP-SIMPING CUNT i never mentioned parties though this is a massive cope >PEOPLE ARE FUCKING DYING, AND ALL YOU CAN DO IT WHINE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET ABOUT LIBERALS what is your opinion on all the protests since March?
>>737123 >polnígger Leftypoluighur* you too reddituighur
>>737124 >whines in places of an argument >gets called out >b-but you don't h-have any arguuments eibber! lmao 2/10
>>737127 DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT YOU FUCKING SHITGUZZLING ASSHAT THIS IS ABOUT HOW YOUR SIDE MANAGED TO OUT-STUPID THE DEMOCRATS WHICH IS A FUCKING ACHIEVEMENT IN AND OF ITSELF DON'T TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THE FUCKING PROTESTS AND RIOTS >i never mentioned parties though YOU'VE BEEN SIMPING FOR THE GOP ALL THREAD YOU SPINELESS CUNT
>>737133 I AM NOT INTERESTED IN AN ARGUMENT TO BEGIN WITH, YOU SMUG COCKSUCKER. I AM NOT MAKING AN ARGUMENT. I AM MAKING A SERIES OF STATEMENTS TELLING YOU EXACTLY WHY I THINK YOU AND EVERYBODY WHO REPEATS THE SAME TALKING POINTS AS YOU ARE A BUNCH OF PATHETIC SIMPS SIT THE FUCK DOWN AND STOP ASKING FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT.
>>737124 >WAAHHHH people are dying >but i still support the protests the cognitive dissonance is astounding >YOU'VE BEEN SIMPING FOR THE GOP ALL THREAD YOU SPINELESS CUNT as much as you've been simping for the DNC
>>737140 ok schizo
>>737141 I'VE BEEN CALLING THE DEMOCRATS A BUNCH OF CORRUPT, IDIOTIC SHITSTAINS THE WHOLE TIME, YOU ILLITERATE COCKSUCKER. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY STUPID ENOUGH TO THINK THAT ANYBODY HERE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE THE DNC FUCKING ABOLISHED
>>737141 >as much as you've been simping for the DNC >communists support democrats <being this retarded
>>737144 >I'VE BEEN CALLING THE DEMOCRATS A BUNCH OF CORRUPT >gets mad when someone else does it more cognitive dissonance
>>737141 DO NOT CHANGE THE SUBJECT. AND EVEN IF THAT'S RELEVANT, GUESS WHAT? COVID HAS STILL KILLED FAR, FAR MORE PEOPLE THAN ANY RIOTS SINCE THE START OF JUNE THE BODY COUNT IS NOT EVEN COMPARABLE STOP HIDING BEHIND OTHER SHIT AND OWN UP TO HOW BAD YOUR PEOPLE FUCKED THIS UP.
>>737147 >communists support democrats never said that. And I'm talking to one specific retard IIT not to communists as a whole <being this retarded sit down
>>737151 >GUESS WHAT? COVID HAS STILL KILLED FAR, FAR MORE PEOPLE thank you mass gathers of people
>>737150 I'M NOT MAD ON BEHALF OF THE DEMOCRATS YOU ILLITERATE CUNT. WE HATE BOTH DEMOCRATS AND YOU PEOPLE, WE JUST HATE YOUR SIDE EVEN MORE BECAUSE YOU MANAGED TO FUCK UP A GODDAMN PANDEMIC RESPONSE >>737154 I'M LITERALLY A COMMUNIST YOU DIPSHIT, IF I SUPPORTED THE DNC WHY WOULD I BE ON FUCKING LEFTYPOL
>>737157 >I'M LITERALLY A COMMUNIST YOU DIPSHIT, IF I SUPPORTED THE DNC WHY WOULD I BE ON FUCKING LEFTYPOL but you're on leftypol getting mad when people call out the schizo policies of the dnc
>>737161 You are annoying.
>>737161 DID YOU NOT EVEN READ THE FIRST RESPONSE. YES OR NO. FUCK THE DNC, THIS IS ABOUT YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS MISLEADING PEOPLE BY PUSHING FUCKING SNAKE OIL IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC.
>>737171 >FUCK THE DNC, THIS IS ABOUT YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS MISLEADING PEOPLE BY PUSHING FUCKING SNAKE OIL IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC lmao you get mad when i say liberals hate medicine hydroxychloroquine machine go BURRRRRR
>>737177 THE BEST YOU CAN DO IS FUCKING FOX? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? THE FIRST ARTICLE ISN'T EVEN ABOUT CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER, IT'S ABOUT A FUCKING CONTROVERSY ON WHETHER OR NOT IT HAPPENED
>>737185 NOBODY CARES ABOUT HOW HARD YOU DUMBFUCKS GET WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE TRIGGERING PEOPLE.
>>737189 >THE BEST YOU CAN DO IS FUCKING FOX? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? and the best you can do is CNN? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
>>737190 >NOBODY CARES ABOUT HOW HARD YOU DUMBFUCKS GET WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE TRIGGERING PEOPLE. you seem to have quite an emotional reaction to it :^)
>>737191 THERE WASN'T EVEN A FUCKING CNN ARTICLE IN THE POST YOU ILLITERATE DUMBASS
>>737195 now you're just lying
How do I make the big red text I want to scream at retards too but Im too much of a newfag pls help
>>737194 BECAUSE WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE MAD AT YOU PEOPLE. LITERALLY THOUSANDS ARE DEAD, PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS AND HOMES, AND OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN DISRUPTED FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG, AND YOU PEOPLE KEEP SIMPING FOR THE INCOMPETENT SHITHEADS WHO GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. YEAH, I'M MAD. LITERALLY ANYBODY WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN WOULD BE MAD.
>>737195 >posts very obvious propaganda >gets mad when someone replies with obvious counter propaganda you must be new here
>>737129 he doesn't know about the wordfilter hahahahahahah pathetic
>>737202 two equal signs at the beginning and end of a line of text
>>737203 >LITERALLY THOUSANDS ARE DEAD, PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS AND HOMES, AND OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN DISRUPTED FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG >but don't take any medicine for it! >the protests are perfectly fine! (even through the opposite of what the safety measures say takes places there) wew lad
>>737211 yeah you're pretty pathetic
>>737213 NONE OF THOSE LINKS GO TO CNN GET YOUR BRAIN CHECKED
>>737222 THEY WEAR FUCKING MASKS YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER THAT SHIT LITERALLY REDUCES CHANCE OF TRANSMISSION RIGHT OFF THE BAT
>imagine defending fish tank cleaner in August 2020
>>737222 AND THERE ARE NO CONCLUSIVE TRIALS STATING THAT YOUR HYDROASSFUCKSHITAFUCK WORKS TO BEGIN WITH WHISTLEBLOWERS IN THE PAST WEEK HAVE LINKED THE PUSH FOR THE DRUG TO POLITICAL ACTION GROUPS GUNNING FOR RE-OPENING THE ECONOMY, IT IS A FUCKING S C A M
>>737225 take your meds schizo
>>737238 >AND THERE ARE NO CONCLUSIVE TRIALS STATING THAT YOUR HYDROASSFUCKSHITAFUCK WORKS TO BEGIN WITH this is another lie
>>737251 CLOTH IS NOT THE ONLY MATERIAL MASKS ARE MADE OF HAVE YOU NOT SEEN A FUCKING N95 MASK???? THAT SHIT ISN'T FUCKING CLOTH
>>737254 THEN SHOW THE EVIDENCE INSTEAD OF GOING HUEUUEUEUERUHGHAUGHGHUHG IT'S A LIE LOLOLOLOLOL
>>737272 >HAVE YOU NOT SEEN A FUCKING N95 MASK???? not at any of these protests :^)
>>737276 spread is entirely in rural areas after the reopenings
>>737273 burden of proof is on you HUEUUEUEUERUHGHAUGHGHUHG LOLOLOLOLOL
>>737278 proofs?
>>737283 Which states had the biggest protests? Which states have the burgervirus surges? Think for a minute.
>>737287 so you don't have proof?
>>737289 I just gave you the tools to work it out.
>>737291 at least you admit it lmao
>>737294 Are you retared?
>>737298 are you?
>>737302 At least I can think for myself.
>>737304 but you can't prove your claim sounds like the retard award is yours today
>>737307 can you prove your claims? You literall said fish tank cleaner treats burgerflu symptoms and protestors caused more mobility than weeks of burgers moving around.
>>737312 so you have no proof then?
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Should we as leftists enjoy wearing muzzles now? She we enjoy more restrictions place on us by capitalists? Is that leftist? Just lol. Pathetic.
>>737315 No you don't have proofs.
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>>737328 The only thing Spencer is ovening is tendies. i agreee cope cringe etc.
>>737326 As leftists we should oppose drumpft no matter what! masks? only if trump hates it. restrictions are good if put in place by democrats but republicans and fox? ew
>>737331 ahh i see you admit defeat
>>737342 I accept your concession. You are retarded.
>>737342 Prove it.
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Why are "leftists" defending states locking you inside while they further pillage the economy? Why are "leftists" encouraging others to wear muzzles when its proved that they're ineffective? I remember back in the 2000s when all "sensible leftists" were calling for war with Iraq, Libya and Syria. You were a CRANK or a WEIRDO if you said no to war.
>>737342 Go take some HCQ. It's a great preventative.
>>737346 because "leftists" would rather just be against republicans rather than analyize things from a materialist perspective
>>737342 >imagine thinking you can argue with facts and science
>>737347 >>737343 >>737345 >>737351 lmao angerly replying 4 times when called out for lack of proof take your meds schizo
>>737356 Prove it.
>>737350 You're right. Most of the CHILDREN here and the CHILDREN that make up the online left form their politics only in OPPOSITION to what the "alt-right" are doing. Absolutely hollow, that's why they crumble at the first line of criticism.
>>737359 waiting on your proofs
>>737364 waiting for yours
>>737342 >>737356 >>737364 Are you retarded?
>>737278 > no proofs
>>737367 are you?
>>737370 because he doesn't know what he's talking about.
>>737373 >makes up claims >can't prove them retard
>>737376 so you'd think you'd provide proofs for this >>737278 or else be labeled a self proclaimed retard? your words not mine
>>737386 ahh obvious pol fag here
>>735756 Imagine getting this worked up by what some faggot from Yale (I also went to Yale) said on TV. Imagine not being able to process that situations might change, hence the shift from no masks needed to masks are needed.
>>737097 What has Trump been allowed to do? We aren't allowed to build a wall, limit immigration in anyway. Trump has non stop cease and desist orders on all his executive orders from New York democrat district courts. There is no political solution. It's march to the beat of globalist neo-liberalism or GTFO. Nationalist? Nope you get fucked over. Want any financial reform at all? Nope. You get fucked over. Trump being elected proves that no matter who you vote for, nothing can stop the machine.
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>post thread expecting Lacanian discussion of politics >come back a few days later >see this I regret making this thread
>>740527 I’m glad you made it. It’s a good video
>>740493 >Trump has non stop cease and desist orders on all his executive orders from New York democrat district courts. Kek maybe he should try passing bills... oh wait he is too retarded to pursue any serious legislation
I don’t understand what he means when he says “lack” and “absence” eg “the mask is the lack in the other”... lack of what?
>>740527 I'm glad you made it. This thread is fucking hilarious.
give me a beginner's guide to Lacan
based allcaps redtextposter
>>740640 just read the SEP article. you won’t get any more simple and straight forward than that. I tried to read Badiou’s book first but it was a bunch of Hegelian and Heideggerian gibberish that made no sense.
My mom suffocated me as a child otherwise I'd probably wear one.
>>736877 Worst of all: Name five countries that are so close, culturally and linguistically similar and entangled as the nordic countries. The Nordic Passport Union was established in 1952 and in 1954 it allowed free movement. The refugee pandemic have made the "temporary" border controls from the 2015 refugee crisis pretty much cemented. But disergarding that, it's still pretty much five versions of the same country.
I'm convinced "materialist" it's just the "Facts and Logic™" of leftypolacks
>red text poster going on a schizo rampage why am i not surprised
>>740640 incase you can't read here: https://b-ok.cc/book/2517047/3e6d0b
>>734051 bolsonaristas are the most anti-mask political faction in the world as I know of, but then again they're just trump dickriders
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>>741620 >I'm convinced "materialist" it's just the "Facts and Logic™" of leftypolacks No try reading up on materialist philosophy From Cockshotts reading list: Materialist Philosophy: <Here we give a collection both of Marxist and non-marxist materialist writers. The aim is to providea philosophical background to the materialist thesis of the primacy of matter over ideas. Theclassical Marxist position is set out by Lenin, Plekanov and Engels. Althusser provides a relatively modern philosophical commentary on this position. His work is alsorelevant for its concept of ideological state apparatuses and their role in the constitution of thesubject. The main ideological state apparatus has historically been religion, and Kautsky’s workprovides an excellent analysis of the economic and political conditions giving rise to Christianideology. Turing’s work is central to understanding the relationship between human thought and computation. It provides some philosophical background to the ideas investigated in the section on socialisteconomy. This same philosophical school of materialism is continued in Dennet’s work. · Engels : Ludwig Fuerbach · Darwin: The Origins of the Species. · Plekanov: The Materialist Conception of History · Lenin: Materialism and Empiro-Criticism · Kautsky : Origins of Christianity · Turing: Can a Machine Think · Althusser : Lenin and Philosophy · Dennet: Consciousness Explained · Dennet: Darwin’s Dangerous Idea
>>737340 Go back to facebook faggot.
>>743022 >words words words WORDS WORDS WORDS listen bud if Eisntein can sum it up as e=mc squared then if you have any real knowledge you will be able to make a post without directing me to read 1923235820357209357023759 pages of theory seriously this is the biggest annoyance with left politics and why only 10% of the population ever sticks with the hard left, and of that 10% maybe only 1% actually read all that they're supposed to and the rest learn through osmosis
>>743446 >e=mc squared Tell us what this means
>>743450 if you need a hookup for some ecstasy, youre gonna have to get in good with my man M.C. Squared
>>734026 It seems like gaslighting, the paranoid right wingers predicted the pandemic and were way ahead of the curve for n95 adoption when it gave them an opportunity to be anti chicom, just check 4plebs. Qoomers don't even count they're just retarded.
its also right wing virtue signalling
The ruling class is completely over-blowing this virus out of proportion to make economic and fascist power grabs in the name of 'public health'. Government policies in the UK and US have aggravated the death count and not saved lives.
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>>766605 >The ruling class is completely over-blowing this virus out of proportion to make economic and fascist power grabs Aren't they doing the exact fucking opposite? The Trump admin has been doing everything they can to underplay the virus and get people back to work and pretend everything is normal again. Outside of funneling billions into businesses via "loans", they've done absolutely nothing. How is medical experts asking people to wear a thin cloth over their face for a few months to slow the spread of a disease that's already killed over 100k "over-blowing" it?
>>734026 They aren't big guys.
>>766605 Bull fucking shit, porkies are demanding that services be opened up to make big line go up.
>>734029 > A mask only protects the other Buy some N95.
>>766631 >already killed over 100k "over-blowing" it? Do you know that around 2.8 - 3 million people die in the US every year? 160,000 over the course of almost 5 months now is nothing impressive. Especially when you look into things such as Median age of death being around life expectancy for the virus. Not to mention that the count is 'covid associated deaths' which doesn't distinguish between dying from covid and dying with covid which is a huge difference! >The total number of deaths in London hospitals of patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 is now 6,146. The total number of deaths in London hospitals where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate is now 226. https://www.london.gov.uk/coronavirus/coronavirus-numbers-london This website from London gov pretty much saying, deaths with covid is 6,146. Actually deaths from covid is more like 226
>>743022 you know that list is good when half of it isn't even philosophy, lol
>>740527 What else could you possibly expect? >Yes, I am from the right wing and this is why, as a capitalist I am an individualist and I reject every universal things. Lacan is a fraud and his ideas have no basis on reality.
>>766905 You don't understand what you are talking about. Neither Lacan nor Althusser (best buddies) were nominaists ("I reject every universal thing"). Both were materialists. Both were communists. Even the fucking CIA knew this, picrel. >his ideas have no basis on reality Maybe read a single fucking book in your life before making an ass out of yourself.
Getting a little tired of ex-/pol/tards claiming to be leftists while bending over backwards to defend far-right politicians and their policies at every opportunity. I would call it gaslighting but I think they are really just that fucking stupid and think changing their labels and flags is good enough.

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