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/IG/ Internet General Anonymous Board volunteer 07/29/2020 (Wed) 23:34:23 No. 731360
Discuss e-celebs, lefty youtube, twitter, twitch, etc. New 'actually moderated' flavour! Now with 100% less idpol guaranteed!
>>762585 Caleb is an idiot, posing as a ML, he is unironically a Fed or at least an opportunist Why is he a fed, you ask? >His ideology is incoherent, but still acts like he knows everything and makes up his own words, a common behavior among Feds since they either don't have the will, mental capacity or time to study theory >Since feds main idea of communists is that they are "anti-America", therefore feds think just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian is enough. This is literally Caleb's entire being. >His understanding of 'Capital' is "muh evil capitalists and muh evil (((bankers)))", this is how most people think about capitalism, this is pure absorption of the dominant ideology.(=how feds think it all works). >Poses as a scientific socialist, while associating with Nazbols, since the FED Caleb doesn't understand genuine Marxism, he doesn't see the problem >Doesn't seem to understand Marxist terms, he picks up some common Marxist words like 'idealism' and throws it at whatever >Despite all this he is able to publish books, appear on state media and even talk at huge conventions >Criticises and holds ridiculous reactionary viewpoints, he tries to bring in reactionary elements into Marxist spaces, bringing conversations back to the old idealist "anti-SJW" topics, causing division and infighting among Marxists about already settled topics like: transgenders right to exist, distracting communists away from an analysis of capital. >He associates with old reactionary and already fed infiltrated """"communist"""""" parties >He is also setting up his own "socialist think tank" = honeypot
>>762683 Caleb is not a marxist. He might call himself one but I don't think he is.
>>762685 I don't like caleb. My post is still accurate
>>762686 subtle
OWS activist Caleb Maupin defends burning the US flag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWLF1Px_5c0 Was Caleb Maupin a "synthetic leftist" back then? Because sure as fuck he calls people who burn the flag "synthetic leftist" now.
>>762686 naw he's just a pseud. Feds actually are meticulous and study theory enough to engage in sectarian shitflinging with authenticity
>>762694 But you agree it's a great idea to go around trying to destroy anyone who is putting their neck out to speak against the new WMDs story
>>762699 This is such a pussy line, really. It amounts to saying that if you are correct about anti-imperialism you are above critique entirely. Also >destroy do you actually think that e-celebs can be destroyed? Their entire craft is about deception, survival, growth at all costs.
Caleb Maupin's "criticism" of Marx, Darwin, Freud: they were all atheists and thought we were animals. But what about our souls? How can you understand people going against their class interests without souls?
>>762712 I'm just very suspicious of these criticisms corresponding to the peaks and falls of criticism by radlibs. This is what happened with the antisemitism campaign against corbyn. As soon as someone was attacked by the msm it seemed like every leftist in the country was eager to go and pick through their record and denounce them conveniently as they were being attacked. If Jason (who Caleb got onto press tv btw) ends up debating vaush and being attacked in the same way caleb and historic_ly have been then there will be people here going through his YouTube history to find any reason to denounce him
>>762725 Nigga, where did breadtube criticize Caleb for being an anti-atheist obscurantist and anti-intellectual? I'm criticizing him from the left, and not from the right like breadtube.
>>762725 pretty sure most people here had issues with maupin long before the breadtube shit.
>>762722 Evolution is cointelpro :^)
>>762735 This is exactly how it works - someone is cancelled for bullshit reasons and we find a left wing reason to appease the witch hunt. You know we need people to go after Adrian Zenz right
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>>762754 >bullshit reasons kek
>>762722 Now this is anti-synthetic! This is scientific! This is Marxism!
>>762725 Caleb is a Youtube personality of no actual importance. He sprouts a lot of stupid shit and he is a grown ass man who should be able to deal with criticism. He is not being cancelled and the criticism is not for bullshit reasons, it is because he holds a lot of stupid ideas.
>>762722 Caleb is a fucking pseud, not sure why people keep shilling him. He's legitimately anti marxist
>>762755 I don't understand how he could begin to believe that. what a dummy
>>762757 >>762760 >>762763 Alright I don't care about caleb or his dumb hodgepodge views I'm just afraid you'll do it to based people
>>762769 "based people" aren't stupid and actually read and can defend themselves
>>762683 I go extra hard on caleb since on this board he has admirers for some reason, unlike breadfags.
>>762769 It's not like anyone cares about what's written on an obscure Mongolian forum for crocheting enthusiasts. We don't have the power to cancel anyone.
>>762775 jannies have the power to cancel tho they cancelled uighur
>>762722 Well Caleb is Based, and it seems like what you are saying is true. Technically, he's wrong though, while Marx believed that humans were just like animals without magical souls and all that stuff. He clearly didn't think that humans weren't a special case of animal, it's just that this has material reasons. Also Marx said that capitalism would lead to the common ruin of all the classes. If you look at People like Lenin, they do what they do because they want to have a functional society, and any intelligent person will come to the same conclusion.
>>762722 Animals have souls too, embrace veganism. Veganism and Marxism are quite similar. The meat industry regards animals as objects or products to be sold to make a profit, not living things, and this is the most brutal and pure form of the exploitative capitalism Marx wrote about, but the labour is animal labour not human labour. Still the animals are exploited to the furthest extent possible - most of our meat comes from factories, not from farms, and in those factories living animals are strung up on factory lines and boiled to death, if not skinned to death, if not bled to death. They arn't killed quickly, they suffer a huge amount. Our meat industry should be every Marxist's nightmare, regardless of what you think about killing animals, because these places are not farms. Labour, or even life, is exploited fully for the total benefit of the employers and to the total misfortune of the workers (the animals). The only distinction is that animals are not human, so this is not what Marx wrote about, but the animals are still smart and sentient and hurting them causes the same amount of pain and suffering as hurting a human baby or developmentally challenged adult.
>>762873 don't care
>>762873 human liberation has priority
>>762873 >Marxism is about the moralistic condamnation of exploitation and suffering. Just stop using marxism as a synonym of socialism. While some (or even most) marxist might agree with what you wrote you are fully in the utopian socialist side of the spectrum. Marxism is about scientific and material analisys not moralism.
>>762873 anyone who compares animal labour to human labour has not read capital
found two amazing videos where former soviet citizens are being interviewed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui11x8vLQFI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjI8jwn0Upo
>>762763 He ironically gets closer to Marxism than 95% of breadtubers
>>762952 Breadtubers might one day turn half marxist if we leave enough comments on their videos though!
>>762897 >While some (or even most) marxist might agree with what you wrote you are fully in the utopian socialist side of the spectrum. Marxism is about scientific and material analisys not moralism. No marx considered human workers to be universal robots that can do any type of work, while animal labour was not able to do that. We can also do a marxist class analysis on veganism and conclude that it is a pretext for attacking worker interests. The real problem we have is that meat production is not industrialised enough, it's unreasonable to grow an entire animal, we should only grow the tissues that we actually eat. There's also sanitation problems with a current meat production, where contagious diseases crossed the species barrier to humans, and of course the waste streams.
>>762955 >everything I don't like is a pretense for attacking the workers
>>762873 Humans deserve extinction tbh
>>762953 are you seriously trying to argue about praxis in "internet general"?
>>762873 This opinion is wack but it does bring to light some of Marx's ecological views; especially the idea of 'metabolic rift.' Remember lads, there can be no exploitation of human labor without the exploitation of nature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_rift
>>762863 Shilling religion is anything but based. Go fuck yourself.
>>762972 No, but there's one obsessed dude in here that talks about the political journey of radlibs he tracks and it's funny
>>762873 can't hear you over the sizzling of my sausage can you speak up a little? you seem weak and anemic. here, I fry you one too.
>>762895 animal liberation is a myth. you literally can't liberate nature
>>762884 >>762895 >>762897 >>762911 >>762955 >>762970 >>763011 >>763041 >>763047 We should stop subsidizing the animal agriculture industry: https://youtu.be/bvX14U3gopU
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>>762928 this is great shit, thx
>>763080 No I need supermarket meat for every meal of every day so I can become a disgusting fat monster
>>762969 >everything I don't like is a pretense for attacking the workers socialist: lets liberate the workers vegan: Noooooo workers must wait, animals first. Somehow there's always a reason why we can't liberate the workers... Somehow the worker cause has to be postponed. So yeah it's reactionary. We can go technologically forward and make synthetic meat, that doesn't have the downsides like animal cruelty, large waste streams, disease breading ground,.. of current meat production, but somehow that prospect isn't very interesting to vegans, i wonder why, maybe because if we solved the problem it stops being useful as a road-block you can put in front of worker liberation. Lets face it most of vegans are economic cannibals.
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>>763109 That’s obviously not what they’re saying you strawmanning faggot, can you stop ruining every thread on this board?
>>763080 Bruh I was just plugging some theory
>>762955 >We can also do a marxist class analysis on veganism and conclude that it is a pretext for attacking worker interests. this
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>>763092 Cope, christcuck
>>763105 I lost 60 pounds going keto and significantly increasing my meat consumption. It's carbs that make you fat, silly.
>>763080 the conclusion of the video is wrong. Consumers as passive elements in the system they do not make decisions about production. if you want to change production, you have to change production. No matter how much you keep yelling vote with you wallet, people will just react with their consumption habits to what is on offer.
>>763167 I did the same thing and lost 35 pounds, felt great as well. now I'm back to eating carbs because I don't have the money to eat well and I feel like shit
>>763109 Who ever said the workers have to wait, idiot. Veganism is (arguably) anti-capitalist because it disrupts one of the worst industries out there for its workers. >>763167 Obviously meat can be eaten in a healthy way, but it's a lot easier to be a fat carnist than a fat vegan.
>>763200 >it's a lot easier to be a fat carnist than a fat vegan. how lol, the only way to get enough calories on a vegan diet is to load up on a shit ton of carbs, fiber, and sugar.
>>763195 Just eat chicken
>>763092 wow what an epic meme, athiests eternally btfo
>>763206 Carbs and fiber aren't inherently bad for you either, dummkopf, it's literally calories in calories out. Keto is literally just the Atkins diet for non-soccer moms, the only reason it works is because it makes you think about your portion sizes and etc more.
>>763222 veganism is for spineless bleeding hearts anyway
>>763225 wow, make an argument anytime
She's cute and based.
>>763262 I guess she's right but who really thinks socialism is going to immediately abolish work?
>>763262 >This kills the dumpster diving post leftist
Veganism is idpol
>>763262 Everyone wants to the comfy white collar labour aristocrat "work". Nobody here will do farming or mining lol
>>763269 rather, meaningless busywork and production for exchange which sucks the soul out of you. there will be work under socialism, of course, but work that actually benefits those who do it
>>763262 Don't care; didn't ask. The era of the RATCHAD is upon us https://youtu.be/XGwTwTaFSrE
>>763237 I haven't seen a single vegan argument that isn't >a bloo bloo bloo muh poor animals or >a bloo bloo bloo muh questionable health statistics and let's not forget the environmentalist pearl clutching that pretty much amounts to virtue signalling
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>>763269 >I guess she's right but who really thinks socialism is going to immediately abolish work?
>>763212 nah, i like moo moo meat and oink oink meat better
>>763308 >i haven't read a single socialist argument that isn't abloobloo poor workers, or ablobloo you're destroying the planet grow up kiddo, life isn't fair
>>763269 US "anarchists": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-left_anarchy For some odd reason, they even were given a (hidden) board on here, instead of actual IWA-inspired anarchists: >>>/dead/
>>763262 This is great!
>>763391 The reason /dead/ has their own board is because they were on the site before /leftypol/ was, and taking away their board was imperialist. Even if I don't see the point in it. t.mod
>>763262 Ok this is true, but it's vulgar anti-work to say we should just immediately not work any more. The actual point of anti-work is to not fetishize work and instead frame work as something we want to eventually get rid of, and be glad when automation "takes jobs away."
>>763416 Isn't that what leftism is anyway tho?
>>763427 Ideally yes, but because capitalism promotes retarded ideology about "the dignity of work" and so on, a lot of people come into the left with ideological baggage. They think the glorious socialist future is supposed to be a bunch of blue collar workers swinging hammers, which tends to either make them misguided comrades or it turns them off the movement entirely. This is the mentality that's criticized as "workerism."
>>762722 Caleb is still immensely christ cucked, you can hear it in most of his talks. He's desperate to fuse religion with marxism.
>>762722 This guy is hot on Vaush's heels for most illiterate pseud of all time. >This was the age of Charles Darwin. >People believed human beings were not special, just animals. Darwin's work was extremely controversial at the time because of how it clashed with contemporary ideology based in Christian theology. >Sigmund Freud was a contemporary of Marx Marx died in 1883 and Freud was born in 1856. Freud was just shy of 27 when Marx died. He didn't even being practicing until 1886. >Marx doesn't recognize the spiritual aspect of human, the ability to look beyond their economic interests for a greater good. So right here we have several implicit points that should immediately provoke a struggle session for Caleb. <he implies that capitalism is in people's economic interests <he implies that Marx was pessimist and didn't think people would overthrow capitalism (???????) <he doesn't know Marx's theory of alienation or the concept of Gattungswesen <he is apparently unaware of Marx's broader opposition to the general problem of capitalism reducing workers to mere cogs in the machine This guy is just straight up anti-communist and anti-marxist. He gets such basic things wrong and then celebrates China having "socialist billionaires."
>>763262 based content cringe video
>>763583 >he implies that Marx was pessimist and didn't think people would overthrow capitalism i thought this point was odd too, hegel and marx were criticized because their view of history was actually quite optimistic and always assumed that people, wholly, make rational decisions.
>>761170 just saw it. vaush btfo's him on several things like the protests spreading covid and tracey being an anti-BLM activist who's too cowardly to just say he is. But vaush is also a giant douche that has drank way too much idpol koolaid, and thinks anyone who hasn't is a "class reductionist". He plays a lot of semantic games with arguments that are ultimately just about word definitions and nothing else ("are trans-women women?")
If Caleb sucks so much, why don't you just do it better? 🤔 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivR3z7fPTE
>>763737 >we're talking about >we're talking about >we're talking about >we're talking about >we're talking about ORGANIZE
>>763743 Do you organize?
>>763737 Why does he like talking about himself in the third person so much?
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>>763794 pathological narcissist like all lefttubers
>>763743 Radlibs can be useless organisers you know
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https://twitter.com/JhonnoWayne/status/1291565621822418945 https://www.instagram.com/p/CCrbaARAPSC/ Mikhaila Peterson at Belgrade's "Money Club" nightclub before her father Jordan Peterson was confirmed to have the coronavirus. Serbia has an insanely schizophrenic government under Vucic where they abided China's recommendation and did a total lockdown with police on the streets for the first month or so, and then all of a sudden before their elections on June they completely removed all restrictions to this day, no mask requirements, pretending like coronavirus is just a flu.
>Mikhaila Peterson at Belgrade's "Money Club" nightclub before her father Jordan Peterson was confirmed to have the coronavirus. LMAO
>>763834 Upon inspection of those two links due to her differing outfits, it looks like she went to Serbian nightclubs at least twice while her dad was in a Serbian rehab.
>>763416 We must acknowledge that wage labor is forced labor and treat it as such. Like force office rats to take turns cleaning their office toilet instead of having some miserable guy only cleaning toilets and pretending he chose that outcome.
>>763456 It may be a retarded ideology, but it is an ideology out of the current conditions. Marxists should look to how people feel, and where capitalism is fracturing with their lived experience, where it doesn't meet their expectations, and meet them there. The advantage of socialism, or the movement to abolish capitalism, is that it is fluid and self-directed while capitalism is driven by large systemic forces. If the majority of workers feel, for instance, that they work all day and don't receive enough in return, then of course you say they deserve more. If they say they work all day and feel like society doesn't respect them for what they do, then you say they should be respected as the backbone of society. As socialism develops maybe it is that workers say they feel satisfied with the respect they get and their compensation, but now they feel they work too much. So you move to shorten the work day, and so on. It is all a development from the conditions. I couldn't claim to know if "normal" working class people feel like the workerist middle-class leftists from the developed countries. I think a lot of those millenials (myself probably included) get workerist ideology because they feel alienated, undermployed, they may also feel low skilled or like their service work "isn't real work" out of a mixture of guilt and confusion with how manipulating data or shifting papers in offices makes food and cars and housing and electronics constantly appear in their possession. But that is all a very real thing too, and it can be appealed to by having more "real work" available to them in the form of volunteer work. I remember when a natural disaster happened in my city, all the lefty orgs got together to help people fix up their houses for free. Most didn't know what they were doing, but they got help from more experienced contractors who were also volunteering and learned to do what was within their ability. People felt like they had really done something because they physically manifested that assistance before their very eyes, and they were fulfilled and felt like they had really "done the work" like their heroes in all the books about old labor struggles.
>>762555 No puede ser NOOOOOOOOOOOOO Delfin hasta el fin!! >>762657 According to "some" peruvian media, there was a conection between Huallaga (or was the Quispe Palomino remnants) and some Argentinian drug cartels that had some SP cadres. Kek, getting real enemies nearby you, unlike twitter fighters.
>>763456 vehement anti-workerism is whaat turns them off, not normal Marxists. anarchists think every single vulgarity and decadence is somehow a crime against capitalism when they’re just legitimizing it.
>>762657 I don't think he will defend Shining Path. They're more contentious than shit like the Cuban revolution. Kind of like how there is plenty of criticism for the FARC or IRA and whatnot, mostly because they were guerilla movements that transformed into very bloody organizations funded by crime. Easy for "principled leftists" to disavow them.
>>762657 Plus, SP is a lowhanging fruit. He is just going to say >Ohhh boiling babies, revolutionary praxis is cutting tongues But the real problem here in this land of highlands and inequalities is to win the ideological fight againt SP theory (done partly at pointing that the conditions they atributed to Peru at that time was the conditions of the 1950 or 60's not the 80's, making some scholars take the position that if the "conditions" would have mantainted, SP would have truly won).
>>763583 No Caleb is fine, he's got idealism with his Christian spiritualism thing but he isn't abusing it for apologetics. The Christians putting people on a pedestal above animals was very useful against slavery, because you couldn't say that people were the same as cattle, which for it's time was progressive, because it did put a wrench into slavery a little bit. From a materialist perspective obviously people are just biological robots, there's material reasons why you should not bully and degrade people, but those are all fairly technical. Christians get hung on up evolution because they don't understand concepts like group selection, the reason people aren't all sociopaths and psychopaths that see others as expendable tools for their interests is because evolutionary selection pressures that work on the level of groups selects against the survival of groups that have members with this trait, and given how few people actually have socio/psycho-pathic brains , it safe to assume that the selection pressure against this was/is very harsh. I'm assuming that this is what they are referring to with their distinction between people that have or don't have a "soul". It might be reasonable to try to find the material aspects behind the various religious spooks and then try slow-walk people to a materialist view. Where you start out pretending to be religious and over time replace appeals to religious morals with material explanations for the behavioural rules.
>>763906 He will not, he has critiziced them before (a nit bit) in his crimes of the argentine dictatorship. Plus, he is going full anti-stalin mode, so no. He will go full NGO.
>>762577 He has fallen down an abysmal rabbit hole really. What is the point of making a video that will undoubtedly tear down the SP? Who of any significance is trying to emulate the SP? This isn't even really helpful history, it is likely a part of his wider recent vendetta against tankies. I think leftist youtube, if it is going to be useful, needs to move more in the direction of encouraging people to stop consuming history and international events as a proxy for doing actual leftist work. It is a similar trap to the armchair, people argue about what everyone else is doing in the world or has done in the past and do nothing themselves. Many of these people probably know very little about their own cities. Much more time should be spent not reading books about this or that revolutions or world event to argue online with other leftists about, but researching and compiling novel information about your own locales to act on. Stuff that largely isn't in the books, stuff that the people who write the books have to go and research first hand themselves.
>>763910 >No Caleb is fine [TL;DR] I completely agree; I've also never heard of a single Caleb that was fine.
>>763940 And of course I'm not saying people shouldn't read theory or history, just that feuding over who knows the most about it is an immensely popular hobby for leftists online right now, and it is reinforcing a stupid culture of people wanting to jump into the fight. It should be shamed more, and it is being shamed by some. I noticed Hakim called out Empanada for refusing to engage civilly in DMs on these things and rather demanding public debates. Andray Domise has heavily criticized the youtube leftist sphere for being a bunch of "debate bros" who are only interested in monetizing their discussions with everyone (including supposed comrades) rather than trying to come to truth or useful action.
>>763940 That's what twitter does fellas, stay out of that hellhole.
https://nitter.net/Noahpinion/status/1293224384371421184?s=20 I don’t care what anyone says, the return of a Pol Pot like figure to kill these “scientific” “intellectuals” would be net gain on society.
I find it funny that Breadtube can only criticize Caleb from his right when anyone who has a basic understanding of Marxism can see the many holes in Caleb's political stance and analysis. It reminds me of the dynamic between the democrats and Trump's presidency, all they can do is criticizing him for not being enough of a neocon and warhawk.
>>763966 spot on analogy
>>763954 This neurallink stuff seems even more scammy than hyperloop.
Jason Unruhe also says he wants to become a Shia Muslim, maybe he just feels some kind of kinship with Iranians after collaborating with PressTV for so long. https://twitter.com/MaoistRebelNews/status/1264485155181408257
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>>763945 that was almost funny
>>763972 Yes, it's most likely a scam directed at big investors, especially now that they are gorged by all the FED and Congress' poomping money.
>>763966 That's a good observation, the always criticize him for his opinions on sexuality and gender and not on the fact that he is a very unorthodox leftist. He'd definitely be in the right wing of any communist party, but not because of his interviews with TERFs.
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>>763966 If they can only attacCaleb from the right then he's left than them, So he's a good influence
>>763954 God I hate this "next step in evolution" shit.
>>763984 Trump is in many ways to the left of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, doesn't mean he's the Hero of the Proletariat.
>>763990 lmao fuck off TERF
No idpol derailing. Thanks.
>>763990 I’m just using it to indicate what their criticism of him is, not to take a side or start a debate on trans people.
>>763992 What a rotten comparison, Caleb argues for socialism, Trump doesn't. Stop shitting on the guy, he's a net gain for out cause
>>763990 No, it stands for Transgender Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
>>762760 I think this is a false analysis. Just check out this video by "The Serfs" where they don't attack Maupin for his stupid takes, no, they utilize out-of-context moments to lash out against anyone who is an anti-imperialist and debunks things like the whole Uyghur story or even the Ukrainian nationalist Holodomor narrative. I think there can be the utilitarian argument that there is a time and place to call out Maupin on some stupid shit just not now. Breadtube is currently lining up to push a full-frontal escalation with China.
>>764030 >Breadtube is currently lining up to push a full-frontal escalation with China. We should make Breadtube enlist in the U.S. military and fight the PLA on the front lines imo. I'd watch that on a livestream: https://youtu.be/5dSTmSNUTAc
>>764017 >voosh saying stupid shit as he argues for socialism is cringe and he hurts the cause >caleb saying stupid shit as he argues for socialism is no big deal and he's a net gain Hmmmm
>>764057 The difference is that Vaush is actively pushing anti-communist nonsense, Maupin isn't. In fact, he behaves incredibly comradely most of the time. That's the difference. If you think that every comrade of yours must have the 100% correct interpretation of Marxism you're in for disappointment.
>>763981 >>763990 >>763995 Caleb’s not a TERF, retards. at all.
>>764057 I'm under the impression Caleb hasn't been attacking these people except in response to their attacks on him. Vaush is the one who begins holy wars against "tankies" because they "support China" or whatever, which its notable that actively attacking China is also almost entirely irrelevant to leftist organizing in America. So Vaush spends time talking about why foreign countries are hellholes, and then spends time telling his audience that any leftist who says otherwise is taboo, which is all then considered "doing leftism" by his audience.
>>764029 I don't believe you, they used that word to cancel Cockshott's lecture on the laws of wages, which had nothing to do with any of this. Words take their meaning from how they are used. They use it as a cancel-word, and hence that's what it means, you know like "anti-semitic" now just means disagreeing with Israel's foreign policy.
>>764057 The main question is: How much stupid shit is someone saying to argue for socialism? Think about what Deng said: > I would be quite content if I myself could be rated fifty-fifty in merits and demerits. But one thing I can say for myself: I have had a clear conscience all my life. Please mark my words: I have made quite a few mistakes, and I have my own share of responsibility for some of the mistakes made by Comrade Mao Zedong. But it can be said that I made my mistake with good intentions. There is nobody who doesn’t make mistakes. We should not lay all past mistakes on Chairman Mao. So we must be very objective in assessing him. His contributions were primary, his mistakes secondary. We will inherit the many good things in Chairman Mao’s thinking while at the same time explaining clearly the mistakes he made.
>>755902 nah the latter part is called LARP, which stands for "Live Action Role Play" here I'll get you the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game
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>>763834 Who is the real dragon of chaos here?
Okay im actually convinced now that Mikhaila is on a misson to make life hell for her dad as much as possible
>>764121 Based slav kek.
>>764070 based
>>764121 holy based
>>764121 >he told me he had a demon in him named Igor Lmfaoooo
>>764121 >>764151 I think that was just the name for his dick, the demon thing was a figure of speech love
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>>764121 >demon in him named Igor This nigga in your head
>>764166 Even funnier if he was just telling her he wanted to fuck and she is like “he seems schizophrenic but that is fine I guess”
>>764112 don’t worry, they actually only ban people for being against white supremacy and sex workers.
>>764121 She really is sticking to her all meat diet
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>>762686 Tbh I do think he is a Fed, but not an American one. I know that to say "Russia is behind this" is a meme because all of the Clinton people, but cmon, this guy literally is claiming that Russia isn't imperialist and that Putin is a based market socialist and totally not an oligarch puppet.
>>764121 Last reflection on this is that this man, who champions comrade Stalin's victory in the Great Patriotic War, also fled the USSR with his family when it fell, which likely means he has grown up being told Gorbachev is a bastard. And now his wife is named after Gorbachev. Love works in mysterious ways.
>>764062 >actively pushing anti-communist nonsense religion is anti-communist nonsense, and Caleb pushes it
>>764227 Caleb also has no problem promoting and interacting with atheistic communists. I have no particular love for Caleb Maupin, but I think it is undeniable that Vaush is much more sectarian and caustic than the guy whose channel is mostly about building bridges with other countries and anti-imperialism.
>>764121 >Igor my. fucking. side.
Do you accept the challenge, anon?
>>764231 I don't disagree. I just want us to be principled communists and call out shit when we see it. That's all.
>>764239 I agree with that, and overall would prefer if people stopped promoting Caleb Maupin so much because he is much more flawed than some alternatives. The Grayzone guys have less baggage when it comes to geopolitics and anti-imperialism. There are also plenty of expats in China who make channels for western audiences that provide good information on China left out by MSM sources.
>>762686 >Shilling the “Caleb just hates Burgerstan” line t. Vaushite glowie
>>764233 why the fuck is he so condescending
>>764322 Utterly spooked, marriage is about property inheritance and labor force reproduction
If you are anti-maupin you are a liberal. Simple As.
>>764347 bwahaha, okay
>>764278 Narcissism.
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>>764347 If you're a western leftist you're already a liberal.
>>764570 BASED
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Found out that Marx Reloaded is on Youtube, a documentary film I always wanted to watch but never could find: https://youtu.be/o1ZVv0I7DH8
>>764570 Anything new come from them? I feel as if something interesting that could be written up by fellow anons would be a ml perspective of CHAZ vs a anarchist (genuine, non radlib one) perspective of CHAZ. Would be an interesting read
>>764357 Based
Anyone just watch jimmy dore? It seems like he is grayzonepilled and doesn't believe the chinagate stuff, but he's still too afraid to outright deny any specific claims
>>762686 Socialism should be anti american you swine
Why do people obsess over fagempanada and Vaush?
what are some good twitter accounts to follow I already know anticonquista, qaio collective, and hakim
>>766212 @LiuXininBeijing @Ahmadinejad1956
>>766212 @Nature_and_Race @Trad_West_Art
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So is there a good video essay on the 8 years of Obama? I generally know his policies and fuck ups and how he is one of the worst imperialist puppet war lords, but I'm curious about more perspectives.
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I can already feel the glow.
>>765644 Because Vaush is theorylet radlib centrist fraud that masquarades as leftie anarchist. Succdemm kyle kulinski is freaking Mao compared to that necklet goober.
>>765644 I don’t know anything about Bad Empanada, but Vaush is a legit glowie wrecker that attacks channels further left than him with DNC talking points and CIA propaganda, and encourages his arrogant “gamer” fanbase to do the same.
Breadtube more like NEDtube amirite lads?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xgYRPLPC2w Sigh.... As if I couldn't hate my fellow *nglo's more than I thought I did.....
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>>766941 It's not that we deny there was a famine, it's that we don't believe it was intentional and they took steps to improve the situation
>>767144 I know, but Holodomor is the brand name of the myth it was intentional.
>>767151 Oh, so "ukranian famine" is more accurate
>>767156 Soviet famine is even more accurate, the Ukrainians desperately want it to be a crime against them
>>767156 >>767169 Soviet famine and the kulaks made it worse on top of that.
>>765644 Vaush just acts like a glowie but Empanada has been a topic because he has basically had a meltdown for the past month and been running around social media trying to pick fights with every ML or anti-imperialist account he can find.
>>767188 He's just a desperate loser trying to grift some anti tankie clicks
>>767156 Even more people died in Kazakhstan during that famine but you don't ever hear about it since there's no Kazakh diaspora full of nazis in the west
>>767177 This was the whole argument that caused that poll. Empanada kept demanding proof from Historic.ly that the Kulaks hoarded grain or committed sabotage, and Historic.ly refused basically because she was pissed he had been trolling her mentions for two days. Empanada kept claiming he had widely read on the subject and never seen any proof the Kulaks committed sabotage, even though every source I can think of ever reading on the subject mentions the Kulaks committed sabotage. They just disagree on the severity of it.
>>767214 >BadEmpanada is completely retarded and selectively skeptical based on what part of the world we're talking about, and also blatantly lies about how much he's read what else is new
>>767188 >>767199 Just another glowfag They all go this way Off the Breadtube glowies, smash a brick in their ugly mugs
>>767261 Jason is pretty good at debating, I remember when he bullied the entirety of the r/soc moderation team.
>>767261 cringe on both ends. I totally wanna waste my time to see these two fat autists debate
>>767261 Vaush is just going to shout anti-commmunist smears at him. Vaush has already won because you can't be a "genocide denier" and a "leftist".
>>767294 Roo is entertainingly difficult to rile up, unlike Caleb who goes full retard if you push his buttons.
>>767323 yeah I'm thinking Unruhe will turn the debate around and turn Vaush into a ranting psycho
>>767329 I bet that because of Vaush ranting about RT and it turning Caleb into a spaghetti monster, he thinks he now has the godmode cheat for anyone that has been on RT.
>>767265 >I totally wanna waste my time to see these two fat autists debate why not? it's just entertainment
>>767323 Unruhe doesn't take himself so seriously either It's easier to stay calm when you are like that.
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask or not, but are there any other lefty websites I can use. All the lefty communities I used to frequent keep getting banned. Even reddit used to have some good lefty subreddits but they've all been banned. What other options are there besides bunkerchan?
>>767366 There is none. You are here forever.
>>767366 not really. it's not even a problem with lefty communities really. all of the internet has just become so garbage in general over the past decade and a half. you may not want to hear it, but it's probably time for you to start getting involved with people IRL. just don't think of it as a duty, think of it as something that can benefit you even if it hurts.
>>767366 Fill the hole IRL.
>>767366 Forocomunista jaja Or fedboon if you like being watched by the CIA
>>764570 Oh shit is nManon still around? Still mad that people shat on his project when it started.
>>765196 >>767376 The site is still up and it's up to us to write and submit things.
>>767264 They were embarrassing and egomaniacial
>>767383 Oh we have to summit to him? That was the original deal?
>>767329 Vaush's strategy of doing his tryhard pseudointellectual moralistic liberal rant, and then completely ignoring what the other person is saying and smirking while reading the chat means him and his fanbase just believe he wins every debate.
>>767366 /bant/ and /int/
i find this person to be funny
>>767399 It's called new multitude. The whole point was to have user submitted posts, to take effortposts from here and archive them in one place.
>>767428 I mean, props for not considering Pol Pot a dictator, I guess
>>767445 It's really low hanging fruit tbh, there are loads of people that make Assad look like a saint
>>767428 wow, this person tweets. a lot a lot a lot
>>767461 "terminally online"
anyone else starting to notice certain accounts being labeled as “Chinese state owned”? I know the Russia one was added during the election season but this is new right?
>>767512 >>767512 I guarantee they wont do that for voice of america or its affiliates.
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>>766616 litterally the mods are hosting a glowie pro EU shill.
>>767804 Breadtube more like NEDtube
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Been reading Sheila Jeffreys and damn.. she’s extremely based
>>767366 Some Facebook groups are alright
>>767899 >discussing radical politics on fedbook, which forwards your posts directly to the NSA
>>767366 Just take the log off pill. Consume internet related meme forums like this one a maximum of 30 minutes a day.
https://twitter.com/beanytuesday/status/1293655868005928961 This shit is right. Podcasts are just CAD and Penny Arcade for zoom zooms
>>767906 Based, that's why bunker is perfect, no notifications or some shit like that. 2 times a day browsing is good for managing time.
>>768134 try being a mod t_t
>>767188 Really bizarre IMO. I know nothing about badempanada, beside his ridiculous sectarian e-drama. Maybe "breadtube" conditions them to e-drama. The only Vaush and bad empanada I ever see is here.
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All I want is for Shoe0nHead to ruin my life. Is that so much to ask for? http://invidio.us/watch?v=m9ThyFE0V1Q I'm so fucking horny and lonely
>>768151 join an org
>>731360 Was "Mike Andrews" in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas a parody of Tony Robbins ? Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - Radio Commercials (Mike Andrews #1 (The Yin And The Yang) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-iqkb4rmkA Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - Radio Commercials (Mike Andrews #2 (USA! USA!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqZLnCRmVZk
>>768151 Go loot a Korean store and she will most likely end your life
Friendly reminder Don't trust the liberals, they will betray you
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MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm yes, there, a little sprinkle here and perfect! I'm going to get a raise for this one!
Has anyone seen Giuli333's video on nationalism? https://youtu.be/jQLPQrk6nZo
>>768536 nobody cares giuli
>>768151 Have sex
>>768125 How is a podcast anything like a 3 panel comic
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>>768562 In case you were unaware, there's a global pandemic going on that is currently fucking the USA right now. How am I supposed to have sex when even girls who would be down under regular circumstances, would not be down now bc of social distancing?
>>768536 No but have you considered the dialectical implications of nigga penis?
>>767433 I thought the anon curates this shit.
Political discourse in the US doesn't exist.
>>768262 based star trek lenin
>>768278 what an useful idiot
>>768606 Have sex
>>769042 How? Nobody wants to fuck bc everybody's scared of getting infected.
>>769021 Oosful
>>769073 Write a witty bio on tinder and be less picky
>>769120 >tinder Unless you have the paid version, Tinder is basically useless once you've already swiped a certain amount of times. Tinder's algorithm sends your profile way to the bottom heap of the list of visible profiles to girls in your area. <t. Had tinder, the free version, from 2015 to 2018
>>769198 Get a gift card and buy a month or two of the paid version
>chinesemuslima banned from Twitter Only white german evangelists are allowed to tell us about china!
>>769207 Yeah, note that Hui people can't really speak to the experiences of Uighur people tho, so "chinese muslims" doesn't necessarily mean the people that there are human rights concerns about.
>>769214 Ah yes "concerns"
>>769218 I didn't know what else to call it, I'm just saying that the problem is more an ethnic-speciffic one, rather than one tied to religion, legitimate or not
>>768985 how is he wrong tho? >Kamala Harris was a cop <they had cops in the USSR >Kamala Harris breathes oxygen <they breathed oxygen in the USSR too etc.
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Do you love trans people
>>769239 why does my gut scream at me that this guy is a sexual predator or something every time I look at him It’s in the eyes I think
>>768985 drumphiedumpties started to melt before the election results. it's gonna be fun watching /r/pol/ faggots eat shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGNPuAu0ihY This guy is a fucking brainlet. He remembers talking points and that's it. Deserves to be downvoted into oblivion
>>763262 Cute and based, cringe video tho
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>>769265 i downvooted just for you, anon
>>769239 I'll never get over his tumor ear.
>>764121 BASED BEYOND ANY BELIEF, THIS IS LIKE 150% PRAXIS
>>764121 I bet she's rethinking her stance on abortion right now.
>>769239 I do. :) Now let's talk about Marxism.
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>>768278 >>767804 https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07MINSK438_a.html >7. (C) Kalyakin, despite his communist label, professes interest in a free market economy and better ties with the EU. > Two days before the congress -- unlike his Belarusian Popular Front counterpart Vintsuk Vyachorka (ref B) -- Kalyakin clearly enjoys strong support from his party. >His uncontested race for the BPC leadership affirms comments that we have heard from other opposition party activists about Kalyakin's solid position within the BPC. > The BPC's stance on the necessity of a co-leadership indicates Kalyakin's desire to play a larger role in the coalition's leadership following the congress.
>>769246 Because he is lol
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Seems we are being actively read by some Youtubers
>>769393 Fellow traveler is confirmed /ourguy/ >>749542
>>762517 Freud wasn't an ancap, but he certainly rejected communism. <The communists believe that they have found the path to deliverance from our evils. According to them, man is wholly good and is well-disposed to his neighbour; but the institution of private property has corrupted his nature. The ownership of private wealth gives the individual power, and with it the temptation to ill-treat his neighbour; while the man who is excluded from possession is bound to rebel in hostility against his oppressor. If private property were abolished, all wealth held in common, and everyone allowed to share in the enjoyment of it, ill-will and hostility would disappear among men. Since everyone’s needs would be satisfied, no one would have any reason to regard another as his enemy; all would willingly undertake the work that was necessary. I have no concern with any economic criticisms of the communist system.* But I am able to recognize that the psychological premises on which the system is based are an untenable illusion. <*Anyone who has tasted the miseries of poverty in his own youth and has experienced the indifference and arrogance of the well-to-do, should be safe from the suspicion of having no understanding or good will towards endeavours to fight against the inequality of wealth among men and all that it leads to. To be sure, if an attempt is made to base this fight upon an abstract demand, in the name of justice, for equality for all men, there is a very obvious objection to be made — that nature, by endowing individuals with extremely unequal physical attributes and mental capacities, has introduced injustices against which there is no remedy. That was from Freud's book Civilization and Its Discontents. The onus is on "Freudo-Marxists" to make the argument as to why reading Freud would help socialists with anything (don't say because psychology matters, there have been many other people than Freud writing about the topic). The dishonesty Freud shills on /leftypol/ have shown is astonishing, even using above quote with some things cut out to make Freud appear pro-communist. >>762686 >feds main idea of communists is that they are "anti-America", therefore feds think just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian is enough. This is literally Caleb's entire being Maupin is telling people to stop being edgelords and that they should not say they hate America.
>>769481 Funny how the only lefty subs that survived are either the dramautist clique, the insular insane radlib tankie shitholes, and the radlib idpozzed shithole so glowing radioactive the only living things to be found are cockroaches known as powermods
>>769288 >>769288 Guys, what he is pointing out is that the free market isn't real, and it's just controlled by the wealthy instead of by the workers/consumers/whatever. It's not a radlib take, and downvoting him for being very close, but juuuuust missing the mark is the kind of thinking that will condemn just to political obscurity forever
>>769487 NEDtube is so inoffensively liberal brained it won't ever be purged.
>>769515 And is becoming more liberal and innoffensive with time, at this point I don't even see anarchist posted anymore is like 99% lib
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>>769471 MY EYES!!!!!
>>769518 I think everyone with a bit of self respect has bailed tbh, I mean look at the fucking place.
>>769535 le eternal advocate has arrived
>>769535 tbh looking at the guys replies he just seems like a complete idiot more than a fed but you can't never be sure.
>>769553 So basically the perfect rube to drag along for your scheme
>>769420 Freud seemed to be against utopian socialism by how he describes it though.
>>769518 Fucking good, I hope the anarchists learn their fucking lesson They shat on “le tankies over and over” and kept full throating idpol until sooner or later anarchism was subtly couped and only liberalism remains
>>769553 >"Marxist" Activist >from an unspecified "Marxist" party >"g-guys we don't want a dictatorship of the proletariat we just want f-free elections" >no credentials whatsoever, just "verified" by another glowie mod C'mon, this is a fed 110%.
>>769555 yeah that's the vibe I'm getting
>>769553 No he’s 100% a fed >Activist >In a “leftist” party that met with US Congress and the President and wanted to negotiate a policy with the EU and US for Belarus >Led by a “Communist” that believes in neoliberal free markets >Said “activist” was contacted by a mod of the sub >On a sub that uses Reddit’s powermods AKA glowie clique
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>>769600 Voosh is a long time fed, no need to give him or his lackeys attention.
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Reminder that as bad as the Chapos were the rest of the Reddit left is so much worse https://www.reddit.com/r/VaushV/comments/i8c6s5/bernie_or_busters_when_you_ask_what_the/
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>>769611 I knew I was right when I said that this board was being too harsh on the chapo sub, despite everything wrong with it it was the only good and reasonably popular leftist sub on feddit, and now it's gone for a reason.
>>769619 It was actually comparable in quality to here after the tankies took over, but everybody hated it by that point.
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>>769611 Jesus Christ, I thought it was the r/neoliberal subreddit when browsing it. Holy shit how low has Vaush and his simps gone, he was alot more based 1,5 years ago. Glad I left that cesspool when he started i agreeing on tankies last year.
>>769611 >reddit left Vaushfags, like their patron pedosaint, are not left much less anarchist left. They are milquetoast liberals if not borderline neoliberals. Chiding people for not voting while pretending to be "anarchist" is height of gloweism.
>>769619 Chapo was great despite occasional radlibbery, they memed well which is all that matters in internet politospace.
>>768262 Where is this from, i've seen these clips flying around alot lately
>>769638 fall of eagles
>>769634 this. i hate anarchoids but lumping voosh in with them is downright insulting
>>769611 I know joke like Plebbit bad hah hah xD. But i dont think i usually see an online space that is just so viscerally revolting it physically upsets me. It's like yeah. in some ways Biden probably is the accelerationist candidate but at the same time him winning means these people believe their terrible false beliefs are correct and im not sure i could handle that.
>>769611 what should we reply with when they post such memes
>>769660 A bullet tbh
You can just tell from the whole persona that this Vaush guy puts on of being this man thats a super doper woke feminist whose gonna be voting for Copmala and Biden to stop Drumpf in November!. That in like two more years hes either gonna be found out to be one of these vicious internet sexual predators taking advantage of his fans or its gonna turn out hes just a grifter and that hes been making jokes about Muh N-Words and Muh -cute girlys and Muh Femoids and muh Jews on either alt accounts or right before he decided to hop on the liberal grift all along.
>>769676 >That in like two more years hes either gonna be found out to be one of these vicious internet sexual predators taking advantage of his fans or its gonna turn out hes just a grifter and that hes been making jokes about Muh N-Words and Muh -cute girlys and Muh Femoids and muh Jews He's already there buddy. He's a known groomer predator and he used slurs to be edgemaster on teh interwebz.
>>769676 >>769704 Yea he already creeped on some aspergers girl and admitted while creeping on her that he’s into horse cock
>>769420 Freud was a retard who couldn't grasp the concepts it seems
>>769676 Vaush already sexually harassed a girl https://youtu.be/Eh0oWT62D4k Idk why you gringos are so prone to be sheepguided by theorylets/sexual predators.
>>769731 who doesn't like horse cock?
>>769611 Spam Howie
>>769747 Weird fetishes and weird fetishes talk go to >>>/GET/.
>>769750 Green Biden
>>769753 The idpol general
>>769737 DaNKEYYYYYYYYYY
>>769731 Honestly, I don't think ERPing in discord should count as sexual predation. Dunk on him for being theorylet, not search for stupid lib nitpicks like "he hit on a girl once"
>>769777 A sexually molested girl, who told him not to
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>>769731 >admitted while creeping on her that he’s into horse cock imagine not being into that
>>769625 It also didn’t experience a decline in members, so when the tankies took over there was a wide exposure to a kind of mixed but fairly uncompromising communism. I’d still say the board was often confused and the general culture of what was upvoted didn’t have a clearly coherent politics, but it became more aggressive towards radlibs and social democrats as time went on, and more anti-imperialist.
>>769265 Of course, he is just a liberal YouTuber.
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Two of the most annoying and cancerous people on Eart: artist radlibs and reactionary weebs have been going at each other's throats on twitter over some fucking anime bitch and I'm so fucking done with everything. There's so much terrible shit going on in the world and japanese pedo cartoons, jk rowling, the last of us and other meaningless bullshit is what people prefer to engage with.
>>769880 he's a chomsky-liberal, PJW of the left. i approve.
>>769894 He is marginally useful but he doesn’t need to be supported outright by any communist. Communists should be the pipeline away from people like Kulinski to more coherent, clear analysis. But Kulinski is a pipeline away from basic establishment liberalism.
>>769894 >>769900 On that note though, holy shit this is just the old Dave Chapelle skit. https://twitter.com/kylekulinski/status/1293921006659215360?s=21
>>769777 Fucking vaushites, already licking the balls of their master.
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>>769937 I'm assuming the girl wasn't underage.
>>769777 I just think it's extremely funny how voosh being an optics obsessed retard goes along pulling shit like this or calling angiespeaks (black gay woman) a subhuman. As if kiwifarms tier faggots don't go around smearing him and the left by extension over this.
>>769908 Uncle ruckus
>>769954 Vaush is a fatass sexpest Destiny clone, with all the supercilious moralfaggotry and hypocrisy and servile audience to boot.
>>769946 If the screenshot are real, she was 14.
vaush is bad.
Good morning, I hate e-celebs.
>>769777 >bootlicking chads Kill yourself.
Why doesn't cancelling work? >inb4 you are le lib
>>769946 She was 14. Vaush is a pedo and deserves the pit
>>770003 The one with the multiple previous boyfriends? Who had sex with all of them but though only with the last one it was good? Stopped reading there.
https://twitter.com/MaoistRebelNews/status/1293907498613657601 CALEB AND JASON WILL MAKE A STREAM TO FIGHT ANTI-TANKIES
>>769890 >be uncle tom for republicans >get used by them to push anti-social distancing and mask wearing >die from covid >even after death, republicans are still using you to promote their agenda
>>770008 Sex offender detected
>>770013 lol i wish
>>770015 I know
>>770015 >>770017 incels go full mask off lmao
>>770021 Do you not envy FinnBol?
>>770027 >Do you not envy obscure sectarian lefty youtuber? No, I have a life and goals of my own. Take a hold of yourself.
>>770124 Incels don't have life or goals besides getting coochie fam and they think everyone else is like them
>>770009 Sounds cancerous tbh Looks like the Internet Left is finally cannibalizing itself and collapsing in like a dying star
>>770169 Yes, this is the end of the internet left! It's over for real this time!!!
>>769611 >magical socialist revolution xDDD Dude, Bernie only wanted to create public healthcare which is what 99% of all countries have lmao
dunno about you, but I love me some PilotRedSun
>>770231 this shit is too abstract for me, i'll stick to the garfielf video
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What broke him?
>>770257 His sister won't give him daily titjobs like she used to
>>770257 is this a deleted scene from joker?
>>770257 He's just realizing how epic everything is.
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>go to kohlchan to see what they think of belarus situation >see this Is it me or has the internet become much more mentally ill in the last year?
>>770285 Made me chuckle. I've come up with similar IQ theories for fun, but I would never post them on twitter, much less post them as stuff I actually believe. >>770303 It seems the commiecat poster terrorizes other communities.
>>769884 what hashtag is this flamewar happening under? I'm curious
>>770257 He's clearly putting it on, what a fuckin loser
>>770303 >>770307 I don't think that is commie-cat poster. These pictures are new. He never posts anything new.
>>770257 >run laugh.exe
>>770403 He definitely posts with those pictures, idk what you’re talking about
>>770410 Man, maybe I just mentally block him out or something, but I legit haven't noticed the OP one before
>>769239 What is it about him that makes him look so revolting
>>769393 Post link faggot
>>770468 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcj-sLDR2Hs still hasn't released it's one of those youtube premiere thingy
>>770403 yep, it's him. he's the only poster who autistically insists on using the term commiecat
>>770249 okay, Mr. Fujiwara
what's up with all the discord transhumanist memes. Most discords I've been to are pretty heavily right-wing.
Holy shit these faggot Breadtube liberals deserve the fucking bullet my God these utter fucking invertebrates https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadTube/comments/i8zues/vaushs_lefties_please_stop_being_dumb_in/g1csde5/?context=3
Fuck Caleb, fuck Vaush, fuck breadtube, fuck youtubers, fuck streamers, fuck gamers Anyone who makes money off this cancer deserves to rot in a gulag
>>770492 Some Discord server started raiding /r9k/ with trap and femboy shit and conversations of that server got leaked. Now every time someone voices an opinion different from the norm in cuckchan, they get accused of being some evil tranñy boogeyman
>>770536 >tranñy don't tell me fucking transhumanist is wordfiltered too
>>770551 Based Jannies
ISHYGDDT
>>770634 tbh /r9k/ deserves it
>>770597 Amazingly, the filter alone has made a lot of the reactionaries obsessed with trans people fuck off, with the exception of some stragglers ofc.
>>770493 holy shit his reply I feel like I'm actually losing my mind >False. By not voting for Biden, you demonstrate that nothing can or will appeal to you. You demonstrate that you are an unreliable and worthless electorate, which can be safely ignored. >Only by actively voting, and voting in large numbers, can the leftist block demonstrate that it is a worth bloc to appeal to. If you actually look at electoral politics, you'll see that parties spend a huge amount of time appealing to their so called "base" (the voters that supposedly always votes for them). I don't know if I've ever read a dumber thing in my life, I'm actually astonished.
https://youtu.be/inS19jOVFPs What's your world-view?
>>769265 >>769288 Why does Kyle use the newly-spun American term "corporate socialism" instead of "corporate capitalism"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_capitalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare
>>770758 Magic Universal Post-Human Community
>>770734 Ngl that shit glows like a supernova
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>>770734 on the left: what he thinks he is on the right: what he is
>>770758 Universal Virtual Contradiction Calculation Theory
>>770811 Send this to them and they'll have a fucking aneurysm and it will be one less to worry about
>>770734 >demos change nothing >leftists dont vote >"leftists are to blame, if they don't vote now democrats won't try to appeal to the left in the future" how is this different from trickle down economics?
>>770811 >thesis >antithesis synthesis : leftypol
>>770802 kyle kulakski sounds like, hue hue hue
>>770734 Vote for Biden 2020 so he can finally absolve us from our sins by purging the world with the nuclear fire we are all secretly longing for. As soon as he's in office, start an uprising in the USofA so he can nuke the states, ending the world's misery, finally bringing about the new world to rise out of the ruins of the old one. Or, tbh, Trump could do that too. Just start openly revolting, march on Washington, have the government be forced to kill all the burgers.
Worst Breadtubers and why: Vaush >pedophile who advocates for legalized CP and sexually harassed an autistic 14 year old >Supports Biden because he "isn't Trump" and calls himself an anarcho-bidenist >Believes and gives credence to CIA backed Russiagate conspiracy theory >idpoler who thinks class reductionism is a real thing and actual issue Shaun >Snarky contrarian >idpoler who gives credence to radlib idpol issues >blocks people on twitter who disagree with him Badmouse >Autistic voice >idpoler who thinks people should be PC towards trans >blocks people on twitter who disagree with him Jack Saint >Like Vaush once advocated for supporting Biden because Oranje man bad!111 >Thinks converting liberals to leftism is more "ethical" than converting stormfags//pol/ to leftism and complains when people try to convert /pol/ >idpoler who constantly bitches about transphobes and the "white working class" Muke/Xexizy >Doesn't read theory >grifter who changes his views to be more accepted >Thinks being "PC" is important to being leftist/against slur usage Badempanada >Literal CIA >Mentally ill and starts male autism fights with tankies for no good reason >autistic as high hell >Jason Unruhe >Maoist third worldist (idpol the ideology) >Autistic as high hell >Fat neckbeard Angie Speaks >claims to be against "radlib idpol" but is pro idpol herself. Thinks leftist idpol is somehow better than radlib idpol >grifter who markets herself like shes the hip new Leftist tm commodity
>>770858 You're just listing every eceleb you know aren't you
>>770858 I don't see why blocking people who disagree with you is any kind of crime. That's what I would do if I was on twitter.
>>770877 Its fag ass shit and if you're an e-famous breadtuber it's especially narcissistic
I fucking hate this emoji:😼 I don't know what even it's supposed to mean, to me it just looks as if this cat witnessed a huge cock and it's thinking to itself "yeah, I can handle it". What context do people even use it in, I've never been able to think of anything else when seeing it. Especially the twitter, apple and discord versions of it, they're so much worse
>>770835 It’s not Now go out and voot, prole Do your part Help us stop Fascism
>>770891 Come to /furry/ over on hobby, your musing about catcocks will be more welcome there
>>770891 >>770895 😼 = bruh
>>770906 😼 = bruh that dick huge... but i think i can take it
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>>770914 I fail to see the connection. Am i being out of touch?
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>>770908 because
>>770858 I’d also argue for legalized possession and distribution of CP, because just the threat alone is enough to completely shut down any possibility of an alternative to corporate or state controlled internet. Oops somebody posted CP to your P2P network guess every person who uses it is now guilty of possession and distribution of CP. It has also been used as justification to strip net neutrality and give more and more power to state and corporate entities
>>770891 😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼
>>770882 It's perfectly normal to not want to read what idiots write.
>>770964 Just ignore it then nigga
>>770986 Sometimes people spam the same bullshit over and over. That's reasonable to block.
>>770891 > to me it just looks as if this cat witnessed a huge cock and it's thinking to itself "yeah, I can handle it". interesting, why does it make you think that?
>>770925 This is strategically wrong, because if you argue for CP that will make you a non-person that is easy to cancel. Also I do not want a network with CP in it. Can we not like make a filter for CP, It can't be that hard algorithms can already detect age.
>>770858 >Thinks converting liberals to leftism is more "ethical" than converting stormfags//pol/ to leftism and complains when people try to convert /pol/ is not more "ethical" but it makes more practical sense and is easier, Dunno why this noard is so obsessed with deconverting lost causes like them.
>>770861 Is there something wrong with that?
>>771012 Liberals tend to be harder to deconvert from their beliefs. /pol/ is how they are out of being a desperate retard. Liberals are liberals because they are buying into the status quo. If you give /pol/ a sensible alternative anti-establishment ideology they can realize their error. A lot of libs are the comfy types who feel threatened by radical politics (because their lifestyle is threatened by it).
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>>771006 Look at its fucking face and tell me that is not the first thing that comes to your mind
>>771032 No, male genitalia is not the first thing that comes to my mind when i look at a cat face picture.
>>771042 what are you, fuckin gay?
>>771032 no it isn't bro
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>>770891 >I don't know what even it's supposed to mean, to me it just looks as if this cat witnessed a huge cock and it's thinking to itself "yeah, I can handle it". [Muffled Freud in the distance]
>>771304 should have been a silhouette of a dog/horse/etc cock but acceptable
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>>771311 he's right you know
Let's get this straight. You can freely shitpost about legalizing child pornography and spam furry porn here, but the moment you call prostitutes (now a politically incorrect term, mods force you to call them "sex workers") lumpenproletariat and pornographers petite-bourgeois, you get instabanned from this shit hole. Sounds about right.
>>771323 yeh thats proper fucked actually
>>771304 kekked
>>771323 >freely shitpost about legalizing child pornography and spam furry porn here When has this happen?
>>771323 Can't even post a woeful caricature of a man with text underneath it nowadays without getting banned. IT MAKES ME SICK!
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>>771331 yes you can
>>771323 How are the prositutes in your countries anon? Here prostitution is legal (brothels aren't though) but tbh I've never seen the appeal in hookers.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/04/opinion/women-unpaid-labor.html married women work an average of 4 hours a day in unpaid domestic labor. So if an unemployed married woman's husband makes less than 11k (minimum wage value of the annual unpaid domestic labor) or 22k (value of the domestic labor at $15/hr) she's being exploited. Or if she works as many hours as her husband at a job and continues to do a majority of the unpaid domestic labor. For unemployed women whose husbands make more than 22k a year, the case that they're being exploited is...more complicated. Lol at NYT not putting the per capita in the headline.
I don't wanna give too much away as it would make you guys too curious about the bread crumbs left But just know Vaush is working on a video about Jason Unruhe and his connections with other reactionaries like Oskar Kelly and their defunct mim, LLCO, and RAIM
>>771373 The same shit as always, some are lumpens, some are proles that have descended into lumpenism, and since there is a lot of venezuelan migrations the rate of prostitution has skirocketed. Like, literally. Before the economic crisis (or the migration, the crisis has a long tail) the normal foreign nationalities one would find were Colombians. Now we have a Venezuelan lumpen problem :D . A grain of salt as example of a mine. The case that made xenophobia more common (or just touched a nerve), a scaped son of an evangelical pastor lives with a friend, the friend hangs out with a venezuelan mob -there are many- the kid enters drug traffiking, the friend fails to pay the local mob boss like ...200 dollars from marihuana sells. The kid gets shot as well as his friend in the mob den (a hostel for venezuelan migrants) the kid is cut into pieces and taped, the kid pieces get thrown into an abandoned bus terminal. A homeless man living there notices it, calls the police. The mob had left the hostel towel in his feet. Damn, I let myself go with the kid being dismembered story. Prostitution is in the legal limbo. And I've worked as a cashier in a drugstore where some Venezuelan prostitutes went to buy profilaxis and other stuff, so I have no appeal into it (there are many STDs out there).
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>>771448 Dangerously g l o w
>>771448 Who is this Oskar Kelly guy? Maoist turned reactionary?
>>771452 Damn that's gruesome, what country are you from, if you don't mind me asking?
>>771457 So he's an australian fascist? What's his link with maoist orgs like RAIM or LLCO?
>>771462 He was involved in both and kicked out of both I've probably already said too much
>>771467 Probably not cause I have no clue who you could possibly be
>>771460 Peru. Shit's fucked. We have a terrible problem with the cocaine problem, and now this. We are paying for the sin of belonging on the Lima Group. Maduro has opened the prisons to let those "friendly venezuelans" here. The police had to open a "foreign crime specialization" or something like that to adress it. It had the liberals screeching, but meh. There are captures of 50 or 100 in parties taken from carface every one or two months. Some examples: https://invidio.us/watch?v=AvIBFC_Xshw https://invidio.us/watch?v=MLhLWyMDY3Q
>>771448 >it would make you guys too curious about the bread crumbs left What are you even talking about
>>770734 G L O W
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https://youtu.be/OKDxvoqSvhw?t=5790 1:36:30 if you're going to watch through embed. Vaush saying he could justify a ground war against North Korea. Says he could justify one against China due to things such as Tibet but for "practical reasons" wouldn't do one. Doesn't say the same for North Korea.
>>770734 This is especially infuriating because in almost EVERY OTHER COUNTRY people understand that it's the exact other way around. Hell, the republicans get most of their votes by never abandoning their base and never taking them for granted.
>>771555 What part of no war but the class war does this idiot not understand?
>>762573 He looks fully Jewish there.
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>>771625 And there is nothing wrong with that. Pic related, my ship.
Goddamn, Caleb Maupin unironically sounds more like nick Fuentes and less Eric Striker nowadays. What the fuck happened?
>>771631 What do you mean? I'm not really familiar with Fuentes and Striker.
>>771652 I mean just based on the title and assuming where he goes with it, I gotta say I probably agree. You don't actually need the entirety of every race of workers on board. Proletarians outnumber the bourg by such a great extent that this holds true. It's just that if you assume you do need everyone and try to have a wide appeal you will have a greater chance of success, including by appealing to people of all races. So, technically you don't need the "white proletarians" for revolution to be successful, but you should assume that you do in order to maximize your chances of success.
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Did anything every come out of this?
>>770858 >Maoist third worldist (idpol the ideology) No, you are confusing it with Sakaiism. Saying that there is no first world proletariat is different from saying there is no white proletariat.
>>771663 It was a major embarrassment for the TPUSA/civic nationalist people. They started developing processes for filtering out the groyper people from getting access to a mic which reduced the harm to the TPUSA people's appearances. These events obviously stopped being held at all with COVID-19 coming around, I think the groyper thing is probably just gonna fizzle out eventually but they're still dragging on so who knows. Maybe something explodes them into relevance like the pepe Trump internet warrior types of 2016. I doubt it though, they probably won't make any sort of impact on the election so I doubt the media will pay as much attention.
>>771448 >But just know Vaush is working on a video about Jason Unruhe and his connections with other reactionaries Fuck off SJW moron
>>770734 >>770493 the glowie mods actually nuked the entire thread
Pro tip: anyone still babbling about "centrism" in the year 2020 is a radlib who doesn't understand politics in the slightest
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>>771713 Great guy. I hope Vaush will see this
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>>771722 >>771713 of course the fed mods fucking removed the post, lmao completely mask off
>>771727 Indeed, I also noticed it. Well, there are still other platforms left to spread the message....
>>771731 Can you post the video link here
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I've made a discovery that'll reveal all of you! leftypol has been exposed!!!!
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Sad end to their legacy
>>771713 holy based
>>771740 Thanks bud
>>771755 So is this the fate of every failed communist movement? Will all of us be liberals by the time we're 80? Mein Gott...
>>771713 This is pretty good - you can't expect people to vote for "harm mitigation" if they're dying out there no matter what
>>771819 Parenti, hudson, wolff, roberts, harvey, etc are all old as fuck and good communists (mostly)
>>771830 But most of them weren't directly involved in the movement, whereas Angela was a member of the CPUSA for a long time. But then again, the CPUSA leadership itself is calling to voot for Biden so I dunno, maybe they have a point?
>>771843 t. middle aged yuppie
>>771843 their brains are lead fried just like the rest of the boomers time to purge the boomers and get to work
>>771851 in soviet russia, boomers purge you
>>771727 Ngl those faggot mods really do deserve to be hanged upside down for days in a town square being pelted with rocks and feces till they fuckin die
>>771767 >Posting it for Vaush’s rodent-like sychophant fans
>>771685 Every single reddit mod deserves to have their life taken
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>>771713 You ain't a real negroe Jack, don't diss my "nigga" Vaush like that ok?
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Lmao now the faggot mods have taken to deleting all comments critical of Vaush https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadTube/comments/i9b9b9/ben_shapiro_is_coming_for_your_wetass_pword/ THESE FAGGOTS GLOW LIKE A MUSHROOM CLOUD
>>771912 >200k subs holy shit, irishladdie really blew up huh. i remember this guy from destiny's streams, always had good rhetoric with brainlet takes
>>771685 >>771727 >>771912 Everytime I look at the mod log is always the same glowie: https://old.reddit.com/user/CommunistFox also mod for: /r/AOC /r/Ilhan/ /r/bernie /r/OurPresident A real revolutionary lmao
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>>771914 >always had good rhetoric with brainlet takes Examples?
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These vaushfags think they are so smart by saying "Hey I think Biden is a disgusting racist pedophile too, I mean I'm so radical I even voted for Bernie lol, but we have to support him fellow leftists becuz Drumpf", meanwhile they think that Kyle is a crazy Rushan spy pinko berniebro, who helps Trump by not being a total sheep and treating every principled leftist as a trump supporter. These retards do this thing for free (mostly) and have already turned into raging neoliberals, they think that "progressive" Democrats will not do the same while pocketing thousands of dollars every year for deepthroating the machine? https://www.reddit.com/r/VaushV/comments/i9f39y/kyle_kulinski_spotted_being_used_by_rt_russian/ https://www.reddit.com/r/VaushV/comments/i95bwh/kyle_kulinski_is_shocked_shocked_to_find_out_that/ https://www.reddit.com/r/VaushV/comments/i923hd/the_hey_at_least_were_not_fascists_party_sigh/
>>771920 there's a debate he had way back, with an ancap econ minor (not much of an opponent i know) that i remember watching live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37TcI-AxB0 3hrs so good luck i member him pushing this weird mutualist/market socialist line and doing well against the ancap through pure rhetoric. he's similar to jpeterson or shapiro in that way. there's also one against destiny on political violence which is decent cuz it made destiny change his views substantially on violence since then.
>>771930 >vaush vaush vaush vaush vaush STOP. STOP GIVING HIM ATTENTION. STOP GIVING HIM MORE VIEWS. WE ALL KNOW HE'S A RETARDED LIBERAL THAT IS EVEN TO THE RIGHT OF SOCIAL DEMOCRACY AND WHOSE BEST FRIEND IS A DUMBASS NEOLIBERAL. THERE IS NO NEED TO DISCUSS THIS SHILL ANY MORE THAN THERE IS A NEED TO DISCUSS THE HEMORRHOIDS THAT MY GRANDFATHER HAD BEFORE HE DIED.
>>771934 that sucks I'm sorry anon :(
>>771937 He was an asshole who abused his wife he honestly deserved it. Zero ragrats. Thank you based jesus.
>>771755 >Angela Davis cucking out like usual these days meh >Cornel West arguing to uphold the empire Now that's what I call oof. >>771819 Rather go out in a pointless blaze of glory than end up like this and demoralize my comrades.
>>771655 Trad cath catboy who loves catholicism and business suit.
>>771974 trad cath fash wh lov cathol an busin sui

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