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Official /leftypol/ embassy thread Anonymous Board volunteer 09/25/2019 (Wed) 00:24:56 No. 71591
ACTIVE THREADS https://xchan.wtf/db8/res/33.html https://lainchan.org/r/res/15285.html Hello everyone, I have set up this embassy topic in order to introduce new people on imageboards and elsewhere to leftist concepts (and /leftypol/) in an open and honest way. Why should we be open? Well, because many internet users are terrified rightly or wrongly of shills, spooks, et cetera. Simply announcing who were are and where we're from sidesteps that whole debacle. We won't pretend to be 'fellow kids' (unless you are a regular poster on that board of course), simply give in a polite and considered way the reasons why that particular board/site's ideology is flawed and what leftism can offer. Why should we be polite? Because this is not a raid, and we are not raiders. I'm sure you've seen plenty of raid threads on our board from /pol/, shit like LUL LEFTIST TRANNIES BTFO, do you even look twice at those pathetic cries for attention once you realise what they are? Of course not. And it doesn't take much thought for us to delete them either. On the other hand, if we approach our enemies, or, I would prefer, potential allies, with an honest discussion, only the truly dishonest can dismiss us as spammers or nuisance posters. What exactly should we argue for? Well, I and one of the other vols worked up the template below which is catered for /pol/, but of course you may feel a different message works better in your chosen avenue of debate. However, I would like to stress a few key points; 1. Be honest. Don't hide that you're from /leftypol/ or your true beliefs. 2. Be open. Respond to honest questions or misunderstandings honestly. 3. Be polite. It's okay to participate in the usual banter of the site you are posting on, but angry rants at other users is unlikely to make anyone change their mind. On open hand is more likely to convince than a closed fist. 4. Be non-sectarian. Try not to shit on other leftist ideologies than your own, it's okay to say which one you favour and why, but ultimately I think we can all agree that outside of relatively minor doctrinal differences (when compared to capitalism), we all want the same thing. Thank you anons, and remember, your participation is needed! I will post the currently active threads below. /pol/ template: Greetings /pol/, we are creating this topic as an outreach program from your local communists. Please do not consider this an unfriendly intrustion. Instead, we seek to openly and reasonably share our knowledge about the scientific political weapon that is Marxism. Marxism is a theoretical model that is very effective at understanding power structures, and as such, can and has been used by the anti-capitalist left and the right to further their own political agenda. Why work with the enemy? Well, we share a lot of common ground, for different reasons, and we believe that if you understood what we are trying to achieve, you too would support us. The classic example is that of our shared belief in a shadowy minority which controls society. We agree that a small group of people controls government, elections are a sham, and us normal folk have zero power. We seek to take power from the few that control the government now and free us from their reign – of course we differ in that we define this through class and not racial lines. Another example is the diminishing white population and immigration. We believe that capitalists ravage countries, install corrupt governments, then plunder them, which creates economic refugees. Also, capitalists benefit from cheaper immigrant labor (and can skimp on worker protection laws) so they support immigration. Through Marxism, we can understand that it is unrealistic to create the conditions for economic refugees to exist (carpet bomb all the major cities in a country, for example), and at the same time manage to control undocumented immigration to richer countries, even more so when the people who control the government benefit from this immigration. If we believed in race and wanted to preserve the white race, then applying Marxism shows that immigration won't stop while the powerful groups that controls the US (and its allies) keep creating conditions that cause immigration. There's two big misconceptions about Marxism that is important to point out now. First off, Marx was the pioneer, but Marxism goes beyond Marx. And second, Marxism does not concern itself with communism as much as you'd think. It is mostly answering the question "How does capitalism work?" and "How does history work". We realize that the pro-worker, pro-communist rhetoric might be off-putting to a lot of people, but it is NOT necessary to share those values in order to reap the benefits of understanding capitalism. Marxism, after all, is a dispassionate mathematical science that comes from the synthesis of great economists like Adam Smith and David Ricardo, placed under the scrutiny of science. To put it simply, there's a reason that the ruling class spend millions each year to discredit Marxists. If you distrust the mainstream media/economic world, then why trust their propaganda of Marxism? Research the ideas yourself and if you find they are not valuable you can always discard them. If you're interested in Marxism, there's a lot to choose from and it's a bad idea to give a general recommendation, since it really depends on your tastes. We have a reading materials thread. Please feel free to pop by and ask for recommendations according to your reading preferences (long dry theory, smaller books, audiobooks, video series, etc). Anyways, feel free to ask questions relating to Marxism. We would like to progress the dialog along reasoned lines, and we would like to keep the discussion productive – however we are also here to answer questions and perhaps correct any misconceptions about leftism is general. Please consider that a polite and reasoned post is much more likely to get intelligent and informative replies, and vice versa with a dumb shitpost and worthless replies. For my comrades, please keep answers on topic as much as possible, and avoid shit flinging contests.
Edited last time by antious666 on 01/29/2020 (Wed) 22:33:19.
>>71884
"Maybe the leftypol threads were taken down because anon used the 'r' word that rhymes with 'gaid' in the OP."

He could have a point, maybe. Or just jannies are being assholes.

But yeah please use the template in future, the tone of the threads should be as polite as possible.
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>>71886
There are a lot of burdens placed on the working people that don't need to be placed on them. Imagine the efficiency of a society that doesn't expect workers to do anything but work.
>>71893
I aprreciate what you're doing, but it's better to just post a copy-pasted thread with minimal editing, then make inflammatory remarks and post memes in order to bump the thread so people will bite the bait and eventually wander onto this site.
>>71896
I haven't been on 4chan in a long time, but i'm looking for some more fetish CYOAs. is /tg/ the place to go?
Also intellectual property is not real so it's probably fine to include Alunya in whatever you're doing.
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>>71896
Make one where you can romance other catgirls!
>>71905
/tg/ banned quests. Go to /qst/.
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/227685382
Let's see how this goes. Less of a general "communism vs. /pol/" thread and more of a specific topic.
>>71893
ok. sorry for the sperg. un-un-edited OP.
>>71910
I'll consider this the "official" for now (in the 30 minutes that it'll last) since it is more serious, but leave both up
>>71913
I don't think a janny is going to delete it, since it's not a "/leftypol/ thread", nobody's replying though so it's more likely to get archived.
>>71905
>Also intellectual property is not real so it's probably fine to include Alunya in whatever you're doing.
Don't think he was worried about copy right claims on Alunya.
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>>71887
>Insulting /pol/ in pick
After reflecting on this I think posting anime shit or maybe one of those pictures of Vietnamese guerillas with big titties in the OP is probably the best move. Or that one pic of the popular front girl with the rifle in the Spanish Civil War. The /pol/ posters are irrevocably horny. Maybe a picture of Stalin from time to time.
>>71915
I think we need to keep the leftypol branding so people know where to find us (and so we raise our rep/profile)
>>71916
If not, what could a person possibly worry about when creating a CYOA involving Alunya? The fact that nobody's gonna like it?
>>71919
I think he was asking if we would delete it lol.
>>71917
Everyone loves anime babes, that's why I think the template should be an Alunya pic.
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>>71926
Pic related should be the template pic.
>>71918
People will know where to find us regardless, because every once in a while you'll have a random autist stumble into vaguely lefty threads and screech about how we're from /leftypol/. We don't even need to say it, they occasionally mention it for us.
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/leftypol/
>Searching for posts that contain ‘leftypol’. 79325 results found.
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>>71926
use something from this manga at least once
>>71928
Meh, still, I think it can't hurt. Let's try a few different ways to avoid getting modded and if it still doesn't work, we can remove it.

>>71927
Cute pic, I'm eating popcorn right now. I think we should rotate the pic for flavour though.
>>71910
hi, /pol/ack here, just so you know I don't think /pol/ is going to pay much attention to you guys tonight as they are too busy discussing Trump's possible impeachment.
I really enjoyed the previous threads tho, I hope we can have more communication in the future.
>>71933
Awww. Thank you anon. Surely this will not be our only foray (though I'm beat for tonight).
>>71933
Oh that makes sense, I didn't really care about the impeachment thing I figure the most that'll happen is a media circus and a very minor chance of a Bill Clinton tier impeachment where nothing actually happens to him
>>71933
What kind of /pol/yp are you, out of curiosity? Natsoc? Libertarian? Monarchist?
>>71904
He's quoting Otto Neurath: Calculation in kind and marketless socialism
>>71933
why do they even care its not like impeachment actually means anything with no evidence, a republican senate, and a republican vice president
>>71933
thanks anon. you're always welcome to ask questions here.
>>71926
https://imgur.com/gallery/zxUmu
This album has a shitload of anime art of communist leaders (and facists too). You can probably find higher resolution scans elsewhere but I can't be fucked to look right now.
>>71939
T H E S P E C T A C L E
>>71939
>>71943
TBF, I think it's a good move, it puts the Republicans on the defensive. Yes the senate won't vote for impeachment, but they'll all be down on record ignoring his flagrant corruption and the Democrats will look good for standing up for 'law and order'. Pelosi should've done this months ago.
>>71948
we should take this discussion to the news thread or make a new thread to not derail this topic
>>71934
I'm looking forward to hearing about you guys again, you don't seem that bad.
>>71937
Italian style fascist
>>71936
>>71939
/pol/ gets really exited for big happenings regardless if it's bad or good and tends to ignore every other topic for that day.
>>71942
Thanks anon, I will
>>71597
Maybe don't put 'raid' in the OP. Like, at all. It probably pings jannies and that's why the threads were deleted.
It's worth a try, I edited the text.
>>71931
>I think we should rotate the pic for flavour though.
I think we should use sex appeal to our advantage and post cute commie girls. Even better if they're nonwhite, to trigger the /pol/yp's racism and/or latent fetishes.
>>72085
>to trigger the /pol/yp's racism and/or latent fetishes.
Anon.. their fetish for blacks has nothing to do with women.
>>72091
with black women*
>>72091
Damn, is there any good commie propaganda posters with some black men?
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>>72096
Even then, I don't think they're jacking off to the white chick
>>72091
Maybe the only way to cure pol retardation is state mandated black boyfriends.
>>72101
>>72102
Anons, I...
Cuckoldry is not about jacking off to the bull, it's about jacking off to your humiliation.
>>72111
The way those guys talk about big black cock makes me think that they are jacking off to the thought of it.
>>71664
>The chance to get rich by my hard work, intelligence, creativity, and management skills.

You should check out this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3BMe6J3zQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_BwolASHwY
>Anons, your participation is needed!
Why, so Hiroyuki can datamine my posts?
>posting on 4chan in fucking 2019
Seriously what in the actual fuck is wrong with you? Do you have a goddamn clue about what's happened to that place over the last 5-6 years?
>>72163
Defeatist begone, we have literally already seen results and brought interested polyps here in good faith. Shut your fucking whore mouth
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>>72176
In fairness, Hiroyuki has seriously fucked the site.
>>71825
Also--where do bankers fall into the prole/bourg dichotomy?
>>72210
depends by what you mean. the upper echelons of banks are very clearly high-bourgeois, but the people you meet at your local branch are more liable to just be white-collar professionals (i.e. not proles, but not far from being proles)
>>72210
If you get a wage or even a salary you are proletariat, although the class interest of those on high salaries is Petit bourgeois and most of these will have stocks etc also.

If you earn most of your money from accumulated labour, i.e. interest, dividends, profits, then you are bourgeois. The big bourg live exclusively from these, the petit bourg will most likely be a mix of the two
>>72210
You can't really distinguish anymore. Banks invest in companies to become shareholders and also form conglomerates with them. This is what Lenin called the next stage of capitalism - monopoly capitalism/imperialism.
>>72210
The principal and primary function of banks is to serve as middlemen in the making of payments. In so doing they transform inactive money capital into active, that is, into capital yielding a profit; they collect all kinds of money revenues and place them at the disposal of the capitalist class.

As banking develops and becomes concentrated in a small number of establishments, the banks grow from modest middlemen into powerful monopolies having at their command almost the whole of the money capital of all the capitalists and small businessmen and also the larger part of the means of production and sources of raw materials in any one country and in a number of countries. This transformation of numerous modest middlemen into a handful of monopolists is one of the fundamental processes in the growth of capitalism into capitalist imperialism; for this reason we must first of all examine the concentration of banking.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch02.htm

This was written in 1916 though, mind you.
>>72210
As you are libertarian, I suggest reading Debt: the first 5000 years by David Graeber, it’s a history of money and banking
>>72210
Lenin’s Imperialism the highest stage of capitalism also is a good condensed overview or you could read the source material he used
That was a good run, i had my misgivings but i think it turned out well
>>72337
I’m at work but someone should fire up another and I will contribute
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What do you guys think about a debate communism thread? we have a new anon pinned post but i feel like a thread with introductory writing with a focus on answering newbie questions would be more organized and inviting.
Glad this is happening! We need to be more involved with internet politics and become a serious political space for Leftist on the internet! good job comrades!

>>71638
Greetings!
>>71927
I like it!

Can we move all the discussion somewhere else? Maybe in QTDDTOT? It derails this thread
No one else did, so I made a new thread. Took out the line about raids.
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/227732670
>>72414
Added to OP
>>72414
>You guys could say so much if you said less.
>Right now I can identify a leftist poster just by the size of paragraphs.
The right LITERALLY can't read.
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>>72448
See the 'jesus, just look at all the words' banner.
Okay, I'm going out, keep the energy up fellas.
>>71717
Interesting digits
>>71733
>Why's the state needed for capitalism?
>>71896
Do it faggot
>>72448
Reminder
>>71930
Oh I hope that there's going to be some lolidom doujins coming out of this one
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>outreach to /pol/
>anarchist general posted by an covert ancap
>a fucking Pol Pot general posted by a covert fascist
>>72530
>anarchist thread allows ancaps
>this means OP was an ancap
/pol/ tier reasoning
>>72532
Exactly. That's why I didn't use it, /pol/.
>>72532
Naw, don't play dumb, you already do so well at it.
That thread was obviously started by an ancap, the OP itself talks formost about the need for ANARCHIST COLLABORATION.
>lel state has to go
>tyranny (like taxes)
>first An* is ancap
It doesn't take a lot of brainpower to see through this flimsy charade, but you're a special kind of retarded or evil.
>>72530
If you can't handle disagreement go back to r/socialism.
>>72540
If I wanted to talk to /pol/tards, I would go to /pol/.
>>72540
Yeah, you just outed yourself you turbofaggot retard. Please play in traffic because you benefit nobody
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>>72448
I would argue that that's a benefit to them. Most people don't have the available mental resources, especially in these schizophrenic times, to delve into a sentence and comprehend it on the first try - depending on the length, complexity, etc.
Of course, leftists have the advantage of being more intelligent, in general. However, when it comes to communicating your message to the general populace, /pol/ has the upper-hand. Their greatest weakness is also their greatest strength here. However, /leftypol/ is good at adapting. So I don't concern myself too much over our current inability to speak in mono-syllables.
>>72544
>Most people don't have the available mental resources, especially in these schizophrenic times, to delve into a sentence and comprehend it on the first try - depending on the length, complexity, etc
You don't even have to be that sophisticated about it. The easier it is to understand, the more people will get your message. That's it, really. What we should be doing is finding highly refined versions of these topics to discuss. That's part of why it's important to focus on class and largely ignore identity politics. The more complex your message the fewer people will be able to join you.

>>72541
Well you are on /leftypol/.

>>72543
>anybody who disagrees with me is /pol/
Oh I'm sorry, I should have said go back to r/SRS.
>>72545
Fine I won't call you /pol/ anymore if it triggers u >w<

I just call you a mental defective sperg who shouldn't be let too far from your retard wrangler, who just so happens to help /pol/ by starting a cryto-ancap threads. Repaint a wall with your brains pls sweetie
>>72549
You sound like a twitter lib.
>>72555
...And you're a stinky poopoo head
and an ancap (or ancap defener which is more embarrassing) >>72537

Gonna call ur private milita, cry more cappyfag
>>72557
You've been replying to more than one person moron.
>>72559
And all of them need told to fucking die
>>72549
>cryto-ancap
anarcho-capitalism is a pretty good way to turn someone into a communist tbh. It's a reliable channel imo.
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>>72561
Shouldn't you be doing your homework?
>>72562
Fascists say the same thing, not that your wrong per se, it's a babbys first ideology for sure, but it far more leans fash than anything elseml. It's an ideology where everybody (but the poor) get to be the fascist strong man of their dreams, and not afraid of anything, whether it's poverty, communists or da joos

tl;dr kinda, but not be encouraged, as fascists have an easier time recruiting ancaps
>>72564
Shouldn't you be reading a fucking book
>>72568
Nothing in this reply chain relates to theory. You don't even know how to use /leftypol/ memes properly. For real fuck off back to reddit, fag.
>>72562
blessed post
>>72570
>lol thar no theory of recruitment, let da cappies make dere threds
You suck, and people like you suck, you massive turbofaggot
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>>72414
>>72437
I'm the guy who popped the class antagonism question in the thread. If we wanna do this next time we should probably be less antagonistic, less responsive to shitposts and actually try to make the /pol/yps take serious positions which would open the space for our intervention. It would also help to have more brainpower on our side.
>>72530
>see some threads discussing politics
>cries and wants it gone
>considers himself a revolutionary
how are you going to handle executing reactionaries if you can't even read what they say?

Those threads are a further oppurtunity for us to convert, only on our own terms on our own board.
Is there an active thread now? If not i will make one
>>72562
>>72567
From the discussions I've seen online it seems there's more lefties who say "I used to be a lolbert" than fascists who say that. The arguments of ancaps do address the topic of the state and can be used to push people toward libertarian socialism if you show them that capitalism is a hierarchy too. I think the ancap to fascist pipeline is more a thing of FACTS AND LOGIC being used to spook them into believing in race "science." It's more about what they're exposed to and what their biases are to begin with.

>>72573
You didn't promote a theory of recruitment. You just bitched about a thread you didn't like. Try again.

>>72577
They post like they're a redditor/twitterer. We should take their presence as an opportunity to dunk on them just like we do with nazis and ancaps.
>>72578
It just archived but I'm down if you want to have another go. It didn't go as good as the first couple ones.
Can we make embassy threads on /pol/ spinoffs?
>>72583
I think we should try to maintain a presence on /lit/.
>>72579
>u didn't promote a theory of recruitment. You just bitched about a thread you didn't like. Try again.
Fair, but I just can't stand back and let cappies recruit, and retards unwittingly help, because they don't want to accept the fact that /pol/ isn't so ass-numbingly retarded that they can't do subtlety
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>>72587
>but I just can't stand back and let cappies recruit
Ah yes, they are sure to be very successful at recruiting people from this website.
>because they don't want to accept the fact that /pol/ isn't so ass-numbingly retarded that they can't do subtlety
You are giving /pol/ too much credit. Ancap ideology is the dumbest ideology there is.
>>72592
>Ah yes, they are sure to be very successful at recruiting people from this website.
the plethora of school shooters etc says they have been successful at recruitment.
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/227754799

posting the thread again, it needs bumps fams, bump it
>>72593
If an AnCap somehow manages to convert someone from here into their meme nonsense, good riddance really, it's like with those faggots that are here only because it's contrarian and say they would switch at the drop if something else became more contrarian.
>>72592
>You are giving /pol/ too much credit. Ancap ideology is the dumbest ideology there is.

Yeah that's why it's a great fascist recruitment tool. When the ideological inconsistency makes it impossible to believe anymore, they will go "ideology shopping" what's left is a lot of fascist groundwork already laid down, and that's what they gravitate to since ancaps and fascists are both retarded ideologies. Besides assuming the incompetence of your enemy is a good way to get your shit stabbed
>>71591

Go fuck yourselves, and stay on your fucking *chan.

You communist faggots have pissed off a large chunk of the board by being part of the reason that 8chan is down. Moreover, your general celebration of 8chan being taken down has earned you the hatred of people who are not even remotely political.

You have pissed off /a/. You have pissed off /monster/. You have pissed of /ebola/. You have pissed off /v/. /hgg/ barely exists anymore.

You should not consider yourselves even remotely welcome anywhere on any *chan outside of this shithole.
>>72673
>Go fuck yourselves, and stay on your fucking *chan.
no
>You should not consider yourselves even remotely welcome anywhere on any *chan outside of this shithole.
okay and?
>>72673
>You communist faggots have pissed off a large chunk of the board by being part of the reason that 8chan is down.
Feel free to explain how we had any part in it. Also /a/ and especially Mark/v/ fucking sucked, at least mention /animu/ and /vg/.
>>72673
>pissed off /a/
>pissed off /v/
You say that as if it is something uncommon or particulary hard to pull off
>>72673
>/hgg/ barely exists anymore.
You know if Stockholm Syndrome'd /v/ users had the balls to move to endchan everything could continue on as normal. Too bad you can't seem to get Mark's dick out of your mouths.
lol i can't believe i'm upholding the native american struggle against settler colonial imperialism
>>72685
/v/fags unironically enjoy it. They're all spineless, clueless pieces of shit who are what i call "outrage enthusiasts". They are the perfect paypigs for video game companies. They are infantile manchildren. If some manufactured controversy gets started by "outraged feminists" on some obscure website or discord server, it gets played up by corporate media. Shitflinging ensues and all of a sudden the /v/fag is eating shit out of the company's asshole because "this is totally gonna btfo the feminists". They deserve to be purged off the face of the earth like the scum they are.
>>72686
Sakai, you are a retard. Get out
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>>72673
>/pol/ can't keep its shit together and announces mass shootings
>somehow it's /leftypol/'s fault
Cry more you delusional fagtard. This is just like when you clutch your pearls over antifa while they have killed zero people and your side has killed dozens in recent memory.
>>72689
They literally argue over which commodities are superior and openly deny that video games are anything other than commodities. They're almost aware of the commodity fetishism and spectacle they partake in but they love it nonetheless. They're the exact same as the soyboy nu-male bugmen they often make fun of. It's actually incredible how cucked they are by ideology.
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>You have pissed off /a/. You have pissed off /monster/. You have pissed of /ebola/. You have pissed off /v/. /hgg/ barely exists anymore.
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I'm done arguing with them for now, I was the faggot with the pirate flag btw in case anyone wondered.
>>72673
>You should not consider yourselves even remotely welcome anywhere on any *chan outside of this shithole.
Lol, SEKRIT CLUB IS SRS BUSINESS
Stay mad retard
woo wee was that fun
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I was the guy upholding the native american struggle against settler colonial imperialism. I thought it was fucking hilarious both the situation and some of their justifications.
>>72747
This is my most prized /pol/ take from this evening:

"The majority of the population never wanted communism, in any country.

All the CIA did in South America was to clean it from the agents sent by Moscow and who had much more cruel ways than the CIA. This is not called war. This is called peace. There is nothing more, there is no utopian time of happiness and being left alone.

The CIA in south America is what peace look like.
Still, they choose to not tell the soviet to stop it or it's the nukes, not even before the soviet had nukes."
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>>72747
forgot to add some of these, still making more
>>72754
im glad i am part of these images. That guy was proper skull caved in stupid
>>72753
>>72754
Amazing. I wouldn't mind doing more of this if it's this fun.
>>72753
>The CIA in south America is what peace look like.
>The CIA in south America is what peace look like.
>The CIA in south America is what peace look like.
>The CIA in south America is what peace look like.

This has to be a troll no way someone actually holds these beliefs.
>>72783
People do aparently
Made a /mlpol/ thread. It's a slow board, so assuming they don't delete it (I don't think they will), we won't need to make another one for a long time.

https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/243890.html
>>72783
nah i reckon he simply just doesn't actual know what the fuck went on and was just wildly saying bullshit with no basis. he stopped replying shortly after that when presented with evidence. Hope i made a dent.

This is one of the weirdest things I find with /pol/ and liberals, they will start talking about things they really don't know anything about, clearly, but are so hopped up on ideology they will speak with confidence, then when backed into a corner will come out with the most ridiculous shit in an attempt to look like they know what they are on about. If i don't know about something i don't talk about it. They seem to talk a lot about shit they haven't even looked into. I don't know why a person would do that
>>72673
>by being part of the reason that 8chan is down.
literally how? 3 shootings by /pol/ and they're still welcome (in your case you are them)
>the hatred of people who are not even remotely political.
there are no non-political people left on chans they all got turned far-right or far-right adjacent by astroturf at first. Then that snowballed. Everyone else is long gone.
>your general celebration of 8chan being taken down
well that was pretty funny.
if you don't have a backup plan after two shooting incidents you really can't complain about having no homeboard, it's your own damn fault.
i would like to help but first a break from our friends
>>71591
but no seriously now what can we do on /leftypol/ to help you? because i hate /pol/ as much as anyone here
>>72788
Hey everyone can we get more anons here, an egoist and a tank can handle it all.
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>>72822
please no steppy
>>72788
I'm back on this one, let's get too it boys. Seems we ruffled some pegasi feathers.
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>>72966
please tread on me dad
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>>73633

Also, I'm currently at the MLPpol thread (not the site I would have chosen but hey it's still up so w/e)

https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/243890.html
>>73640
Can someone tell me why we're currently raiding a board full of brony nazis?
>>73646
it's not a raid why do people keep using that word
>>73646
because they are better interlocutors than /pol/ and they ostensibly are acting in good faith
>>72673
>its our fault 8chan is gone
How many mass shooters and other lunatics have you and your cohorts enabled? Right.
>>73640
>mylittlepolny
>>73640
>jews kikes jews but what about kikes have you thought about t jews
>>73648
Ok, why are we doing outreach to deranged bronies? I get that we can't be too picky but there has to be some limits on what trash we are willing to bring in.
>>73658
I mean, as I said I'm not the one who started the thread, if people would rather go to /pol/ that's fine, but I think it could actually be a good idea to change sites every couple days so as to get maximum exposure.
>>73646
Mostly what >>73649 said. The people there actually compose arguments, unlike 4/pol/.
>>73658
who cares if they are bronies or not? their politics, from what I've gathered from a 1min browsing, are indistinguishable from /pol/, and instead of spamming hitler quotes they spam cute nazi ponies.
>>72673
you say like /pol/ has never done anything worse even though they promote mass shootings against "lesser races" unironically, and they promote racism and fascism oh they also raided other boards as well so its okay when you guys do it but horrible when we do it? fucking hypocrite also you go fuck yourself and go suck your own cock
>>73665
Bronies are cringy, their porn is creepy as hell and these particular bronies are also nazis. What can they possibly contribute to this board?
>>73671
Cringe culture is nothing but the perpetuation of reactionary 'degeneracy' moral guardianship, you imbecile.
>>73673
Having standards for acceptable behavior in public is reactionary now?
>>73679
They're not in public.
>>73676
I can barely parse this which makes me doubt that you read more than 5 pages a day, but you have a point about leftytrash being extremely embarrassing too.
>>73679
why do you care so much if someone masturbates to ponies or not?
you're one argument away from "oh no what will my kid say when they see two gay guys holding hand" memes neocons used to say
>>73688
I don't give a shit about what people masturbate to, but building an identity around your fapping habits is pretty pathetic. Especially if you happen to fap to children's cartoons.
>>73671
We are on a image board where anime and our loli mascots are alwaus posted. This fucking whole side of the internet is cringe! I cant even browse at work because of how awkward it be to explain to explain this.
>>73648
People keep calling it a raid because your presence is so disgusting that it appears to be one.

Nobody wants you around.
>>73717
why is the thread still up then?
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Wait a minute are we being raided right now?
>>73723
Nah. We invited people here, and they're coming.
>>73715
>hurr durr i'm olfag
Dear god can you stop being a faggot, we get it things got shitty but at least there is a conscious attempt to make things better insyead of your retarded defeatism.
Leftystrash has always been shit thats the point.
>>73658
I mean okay we should go wherever, there should probably be higher priorities though like reddit
Is there a thread going? There should be a thread going
>>73778
Speaking of voat (which is not worth it imo) we shoud publicise and/or crosspost memes to communism.lemmy.ml.
>>73773
I'm back at it on the MLP thread, there's been a huge buildup overnight. Could do with some help.

https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/243890.html
>>74105
All they talk about is jews and how "souless" our method of analysis is, it's all so tiresome. They even brought up the Austrian school and think we'll brought to their side
>>74234
What the fuck did you expect from nazis? Idealists gotta idealist.
>>74234
>how "souless" our method of analysis is
Isn’t capitalism the most “soulless” system?
Talking about souls, everybody I know who’s shown sign of true love has always been to the left of the discourse(be it romantic or any other), but I digress.
>>74246
>>74243
I just wanna strangle them
Is it too much to ask? :,^(
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>>73778
>>73906
Voat is absolutely not worth it. You are so online that you have lost the notion of where the people are.
>>74234
Whenever idealists attempt to move into a "higher" aspect of discussion, you must knock them back down to their presupposition and force them to defend it. They are nationalist? Tell them not only is nationalism bad, but nations don't exist. Something about the human spirit? Tell them it doesn't exist. Make them prove their points; they are the ones making claims here. If they openly abandon reason, as the out-and-out fascist is wont to do, then just call them retarded and move on. Say that they are no different, or perhaps even worse, than a Sadean hedonist. Call them illiterate cumbrains.
>>74263
Lmao his mustache turned white
>>73640
I think we have to declare this topic a failure, the ponies are just too autistic. Plus, there isn't very much new blood moving through the topic like there would on a more active board.

Frankly, these people are worse than /pol/ was. Alas.
>>74492
You guys won't even engage with the actual arguments presented, just post stale boomer memes in response or accuse us being feds (as if they don't have anything better to do). Waste of time.
>>74496
>accuse us being feds

That or Jews
>>74492
I get worried about a lot of things, and sometimes I question my own intelligence, but if there is one this I'm absolutely certain of, that is that I am smarter than the average nazi brony.
>>74497
I mean /pol/ did that too but at least they argued back.

>>74498
Well, it was worth a try anyway. I don't think we should dismiss them just for being bronies (I mean, I'm a furry so, yeah) but I do highly question the intelligence of people embracing a show that runs entirely counter to their actual ideology.
>>74500
It's more the combination of brony + nazi. Something about cutifying nazi always sets me off. And even if I might engage in minor forms of fursecution sometimes, I'm also dating a furry so I have not room to judge really.
>>74505
Just got this response

"I fight your parasitical ilk everyday and everywhere in a fashion beyond the primitively bound cogitation you call thought. Your lingual gesticulations and base attacks will never harm me for they are spurious metaphysically and philosophically."

Holy shit, I am fucking done with these schizos.
>>74510
Now read it in Rarity's voice and it's even funnier..
>>74523
>Kill yourself dog-rapist
>This coming from someone who wants to fuck a pony
>>74523
I'm sorry that someone offended your delicate sensibilities by making a video about incels. Thank you for sharing.
>>74523
The more i read this the more pathetic it becomes.
Are you seriously implying had ever a chance of making a difference in the world, the REAL world?
>>74529
>everyone I don't like is an incel
Consider suicide, sexhaver

He wasn't even talking about e-celebs retard
>>74514
Hahaha, holy shit. Read all their autistic lines in Fluttershy's
>>74482
We had a lot of good discussions. A few are even sticking around. I'd call it a success.
>>74538
If you say so. I'm having a bad night.
>>74534
>everyone I don't like is an incel
How did take that oit of what he said?
>sexhaver
Really?
>he wasn't even talking about e-celebs retard
The reference is obvious retard
>>74542
>he
IMPLYING
It's mostly the females who virgin shame and brag about having sex which makes no sense as they can just get install tinder and get order dicks to their home or even GET PAID to fuck
>Really?
No, people use insults that apply to themselves
>The reference is obvious retard
I just skimmed it because austrian economics is braindamage, but enlighten me
>>74548
>Fuck off and die incel waste. I would fucking choke you to death right now.
Okay turbo austismo.
>>74548
lmao i'm not going to waste my time with the schizo ramblings of a horse fucker
>Not even the embassy thread is capable of not descending into incel talk

Bruh
>>74555
Incelposter should be banned tbh
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>>74523
>no solution for the economic calculation problem.

I always find it funny when capitalists try to point to economic allocation problem like central planning is not exactly how efficient businesses operate.

>Thus There is no workable model to kickstart early stage communism

Except large monopolistic co-ops

anyways the rest of that post is a giant (ad hominim?) (ad movementim?) so its really not a argument
>>74555
I'm 90% sure it's a false flag.
>>74561
Dude just stop its embarrasing
>>74562
nope I enjoy shitting on liberals who think being a whore is some accomplishemt
>>74561
m8, if someone wants to talk about incels there's a fucking thread for it
>>74563
I doubt there's a single liberal on this board
>>74565
74529 started it
>>74566
there is one poster defending warren jfl
>>74569
>cut-troat silver bullets like regular bussines
I imagine "workplace democracy" will come in the same way as political democracy. As soon as the first company that is able to break into clear waters AND is a coop, people will flock to work for them because of the better treatment, like america was to europe. A little idealist but whatever.
>>74571
It's just liberal ideology, let the free market fix it as the workers will just go where conditions are better and someone treating them poorly would just get punished by the market. Peterson-tier
>>74568
Can you link it?
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Leftypol, what have you done.
>>74557
Honestly the designs of the show don't really work for me
>>74583
Who could have predicted that debating nazi bronies would bring in extreme autism to our little board?
>>74569
is that entire post a reference to >>74558 ? i cant tell since the reference is in the middle
>>74589
Hey fuck you too faggot
what the fuck happened to this thread. mods purge the horsefuckers
>>74589
>I actually started typing an entire post talking about how is kind of a weird simplification since it implies current bussiness capitalist models can be translated to... I don't know. Gotham programe based ones?

Well true probably not. But i really despise using century-old political schemes as a guide for modern movements.
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>>74581
If she gets to be a board-tan then N8 should get to be one too. He has no home to go to and furcommies demand representation.
>>74718
I've always kinda liked this board-tan despite never visiting /fur/.
>>74727
Plus he's already in leftypol colours!
>>74718
Is he trying to resurrect the furth international?
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>>74737
I have an even better idea... the next outreach thread should be on /trash/!
>>74750
The three arrows are liberal tho.

Besides, furry hate basically originates from goons, are we goons or channers? Time to make our mind up.
>>74750
>>74751
I'm all for a leftist furry board-tan, but N8 is just 8chan's.
t. brony
>>74756
8chan is kill though. Even if they bring it back it'll just be a reanimated boomer-infested zombie. Even /furry/ got deleted well before the site did.
>>74758
I think we should design our own one
First up: species. Something Russian? Chinese? Iranian?
When this thread gets cycled i hope it gets back on topic
>>74760
Something Albanian. This is BUNKERchan, after all.
I just read through part of the /mlpol/ thread and holy shit what a bunch of fucking cretins. Observing it also makes me more staunchly believe that when engaged with the reactionaries you have to debase them at their most primal level. Talking about actual goings-on with them just results in them projecting racial essentialism and idealism onto everything even when it doesn't make sense. Just ask them what the causal origin of the supposed Jewish spirit is. The answer is either some insane supernatural shit or they don't have an answer. Literally just start posting Richard Dawkins tier atheist shit at that point. Or don't. Evolites and similar types are sort of impotent and more concerned with reading books than propagandizing directly, although many of their views filter downwards through 'intellectual' right wing outlets down to the chaff that make up the majority of the movement.
>>74569
>Don't take politics so deadly serious.
There it is. But you seem alright.
>>74751
>are we goons or channers? Time to make our mind up.
We're communists, you tool. Concerning oneself with the politics of inter-forum relations and identities is a complete waste of time.
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>>74765
>That's why I mentioned the north Korean furry show
You know the one

Nork shills are no better than Polpotists. Well okay, they're a little better, but still trash.

>I come from the fact that anthro looks weird and kinda disgusting
The muzzle and all that stuff in a human looks bad m8

I mean nobody's saying we should replace Alunya but cmon man, diversity :^D

They've been saying for months 8ch will come back, we'll see if it actually does. As I said, even if it did I doubt anyone will use it at this point but boomer qtards.

>We're communists, you tool. Concerning oneself with the politics of inter-forum relations and identities is a complete waste of time.

Exactly why we can agree that furry hate is a spook!
>>74771
>nork shills
Are implying that North korea isn't good you southern nigger?
>>74783
What?
>>74820
That isn't bad
That's worse fag
>>71824
lol, that is complete bullshit. no billionaire's weal and woe, life and death, is dependent on the demand for labor. read engels
why the focus on MLpol. This was a good idea, now it has been subverted
>>75486
Yeah... well it was an interesting experiment but let's not try that again.

Go ahead and make a topic if you want anon.
>>75486
>>75493
Do you really expect a different result in other right wing lenient site?

If you don't have a list of specific bulletpoints to debate on you will never going to go anywhere

You should have chosen
>j00z
>geesas
>is communism / capitalism viable
etc

jeez

go ahead and try the same in other sites

is like none of you learnt anything from the sargon of applebees and finbol + anarcummies debate

also
>engage in debate in contained thread
>get banned
Thank you for showing me the way to the door you retard
No wonder I left this shit-hole, the moderation team is still a ban happy bunch of faggots

You nigger didn't even gave a warning

and no, I am not going to /get/ where the board owner talks about sucking a dog off
>>75520
Tbh i agree you shouldn't have been banned
>>75520
We have dog fuckers on /GET/?
>>75556
we have a lot of shit in /GET/, I try to just pretend it doesn't exist
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>>75520
>is like none of you learnt anything from the sargon of applebees and finbol + anarcummies debate
You mean the one with xexizy and badmouse? That one wasn't a good debate but what that debate produced was the Jack Angstreich vs Academic Agent debate. Academic Agent was one of the people on Sargon's side and after he met Jack his life was never the same again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oQ02sTO6PM
>>75520
You were banned? What the fuck?
>>75520
>most of the posts about Lefty Pony were deleted
Why?
>>75520
its stupid that you were banned considering the post with the children being killed by a car is fine according to the mods. We have a very large mod team and a lot is left up to whims
>>75603
>>75607
>>75520
I don't think his longer post that mentioned planning theory should have been deleted, but the ban was deserved because he started derailing with incel nonsense, which is explicitely in the rules.
>>75610
well intuitively i'd assume the incel rule would be suspended along with the other usual rules of no low effort right-wing posting, but I can see how someone might not have assumed that. Or maybe it shouldn't be assumed, would be up to the mod who had this whole idea i guess
>>75617
Incel posting should be banned on sight, because that is like 90 percent of the problem posting right now.
>>75609
When did this happened?
>>75520
Please stick around, anon. You're a neat guy
So I have also an idea, what if we picked themes and started threads on specific topics, we can post threads about imperialism for example, pick three US coups of a democratically elected leader and start threads about them, then we can bump each others
>>75855
They probably pulled the ban hammer on the pony pics and incelposting thinking they were both the same since mlpol is gay like that. They should still ban the other one though
>>75878
They are gonna complain about us trying to coopt them by playing "dirty tricks" and gorepost
Leftypony is a serious cute though. She should get to be a board tan
>>75953
they do this anyway
>>76209
I know, what i meant was that we need to be more blunt about our presence instead of the slow method.
Let's talk about the history of socialism, or better yet of judaism and despook them about jews. A thread about the history of Africa would also be good, since they keep repeating the meme that africa was just mudhuts and cannibals. All of this while still being overtly honest about our goals.
Hello gents, is anyone interested in another /pol/ expedition tonight? I'm about to go to bed so someone else would have to start off, but I wanna push at it again.
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>>83190
Imagine unironically thinking this.
bumperiono
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>>83213
Why can't this burger spell in any of his posts?
>>83225
It's not his fault, his organs were ripped when he was only a small child.
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>>83213
ching chang chong no organs for the falun gong
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>>83190
Holy shit, I always forget how dumb /pol/ is. I support efforts like this for trolling and shitposting purposes, but any effort to get those mongoloids to come shit up this place should be rewarded with fucking gulag.
>>83225
crippling mental retardation
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>>83170
gonna start using this but unironically
>>83190
4/pol/ is so fucking dumb holy shit, theyre under 20 layers of retardness, where the fuck do you even start
>>83275
The best part is that they completely buy the "we're winning vs. China" message of Trump. When real economic facts and trends are posted they can't really reply, get afraid, and call you a chink shill.
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>The only reason why the world has been as peaceful as it has been is because the USA said that war is now illegal. Imagine what happens once it becomes legal again.
what did he mean by this?
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>>83285
Where does one even begin?
>>83170
>>83190
I'm not sure how I feel about having to defend China. They're accused of some shit that is pretty fucked up.
>>83293
Accused by whom?
>posts this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Epstein
>this proves that the Chinese are controlled by the Jews
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>>83292
God bless you, anon.
Jannies deleted the /tv/ thread
>>83342
I was surprised they allowed it for so long. I have a new thread idea, gimme a sec.
>>83365
FFS, I didn't start this thread to set up shitty bait threads that just give us a bad reputation.
>>83365
>Even with those percentages, you'd still be an incel
He is right tbh
>>83371
Then maybe ask kindly our genius vols to edit OP (again) to indicate precisely the purpose of the thread.

>communists have better sex than capitalists
>bad reputation
Butthurt.
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>>83499
RIP, no biters ;_;
>>83499
Oop, it's speeding up now, could use some more help.
quit making retard /pol/ threads and post on the boards that actually have fucking lefties in it you retards
>>83509
Getting a fascist /pol/ack to come over here is infinitely more valuable than getting a leftist /tv/ user to come over.
>>83519
no it isn't because the /pol/acks all there are fucking redditors. you all bitch and whine about chapo or whatever all day but at the end of the day the venn diagram for /pol/ posting and t_d posting is just a fucking circle, and yet we put on this fucking charade anyways. /pol/ posters are irreparably retarded and uniquely disinterested in any form of intellectual argument because they are in it for fucking memes. their arguments are fucking memes, sometimes literally. they have literally no value and contribute nothing to anything, and have no interest in being a productive force, and no effortpost is going to change that because their ideas are fundamentally not founded on a logical basis, and you can't logic someone out of a situation they didn't logic themselves into. this was retarded even in the closing days of 8chan, and it's like double retarded now that we are trying to recruit from fucking 4chan.
>>83521
>you all bitch and whine about chapo or whatever all day

Not me, that's a few autists, I don't care if someone is from reddit.

>>83499
Look at the thread if you don't believe me, are most replies negative shitposts? Sure, but there's a good few thoughtful replies and questions, way more than on /mlpol/. You can't accuse a fascist of being willfully ignorant if you haven't even tried to show him the truth - that's why the fascists have grown so much, their need to convert absolutely everyone.
>>83499
I could use a relief poster here, I need to go eat ;_;
>>83521
Except this isn’t true because we had almost daily coverts before old BO flipped
>>83590
Alas.
>>71877
Effectively estimates the exploitability of a mother's workload. I don't believe the point of it was to say mothers work less than a capitalist's employees.
>>83724
Ah shit, wrong flag.
>>83499
Welp, signing off for tonight, unless anyone wants to take over it dies here.
>>83728
Nope, looks about right
>>83521
This is precisely why there is more hope of converting them than any sort of structured liberal.

If you can come up with a decent meme you might get someone to bite, whereas someone buying into typical left liberal narrative has a structured world view based around it that can not be cured. While some on /pol/ will just blame everything as part of some jew conspiracy (there is one poster i see over and over who always replies to anything red about how "communism is jewish and therefore anti-white" i think thats less common than the average left liberals belief that some cosmic white man is oppressing them.
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>>83764
>i think thats less common than the average left liberals belief that some cosmic white man is oppressing them.

My only criticism is that I don't think most liberals think that per se, it's more that they think the system is fundamentally okay and just needs some tweaks, and everything will work out in the end, because actually confronting the rapidly dying late capitalist corporate hellhole that is our modern world is too scary otherwise.
>>83499
Why do we only have a faggot demsoc anglo representing us? I would go myself if i was well read. Also that Stalinposter was huge cringe with that "great man" argument, i mean seriously that could have worded not only better but also not retarded.
>>83788
"The future belongs to those who show up".

It's hardly like the /pol/acks are gonna ask in depth questions about theory is it? Just go for it.
>>83795
Alright, but don't blame me for getting shit wrong.
>>83788
Thread's dead as fuck right now, but bitching about who's talking does us no good. I'm a theorylet who's getting by as best he can with about ten hours of Richard Wolff interviews, the first chapter of Das Kapital & a bunch of Orwell's writings + The Unique and its Property. I'm in there with the Catalonian flag on, doing what I can.

What I'm trying to say is, unless you get in there and start defending your own positions, you're going to leave it all up to the anarkiddie, the manlet of steel and the succdem.
>>83806
Wow i only got State and rev.
>Mfw no brain at all
>>83809
I've been a leftist for at least two years. I should have read more by now, or at least listened to more YouTube videos.
I'm calling it a night. I did my part for now, but I'll be back later.
>>83906
Fuck! Flag went away!
>>83590
We had daily converts from a much different audience in a different form of /pol/, but things have changed.
>>83764
Literally nobody is fucking ideologically liberal. The entire point of the ruling ideology as-is now is that it's social hegemony is the only way it can be enforced, because even a passing knowledge of liberal ideology would show you that liberalism has been contorted so much so that it is virtually unrecognizable from its base ideals.
Also this fucking meme war bullshit is simultaneously the most pathetic attempt at praxis I've seen and continuing the misuse of memes.
>>83766
This is more true, but building up the courage needed to confront the system is not that hard of a task.
look at this free thinking individualist. what a fitting way to end a thread - demonstrating the brighest minds of /pol/
Thanks to everyone who took part in the latest thread, especially Catalonia anon, I don't have the energy to go at it again right now, but if anyone fancies opening another thread feel free.
hope its okay to use this thread as a place to show threads that are currently having an ideological fight, not just bait threads, but like this
http://boards.4channel.org/tv/thread/122187037#p122191152
if anyone wants to argue, there you go
>>84466
No problem, man! I think it'd be a good idea to get a couple of us together at once to work on a thread together sometime. I'll try checking on here daily from now on, in case anyone else wants to hop on board. I personally suggest the 12th, this coming Saturday. I'll be free all day that day, from the late morning to well after midnight. Eastern Standard time.

I'm open to other times and days, if that works better for other people. My schedule is pretty flexible.
>>86371
> think it'd be a good idea to get a couple of us together at once to work on a thread together sometime.
This, I don't have all day free the 12th but if you keep the thread going I could help in the evening (central european time)
Btw are you really catalan? en tal cas, que tal et va la vida camarada?
>>86371
>>86524
That sounds good, there was another anon in a different thread who wanted to do something now, are you still around/anyone else that wants to kick off one tonight? Could be juicy with the Germany habbening.
Hello, does anyone wanna go chat with /pol/ tonight? I can't really commit to doing it alone but with some friends I will.
how do you set a thread to "watched?"
>>88699
Here or on /pol/? Either way I dunno lol, I just refresh the catalog way too much
>>88672
sup i can for a bit but i got banned the other day so cant promise
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>>88712
Faggot mods deleted it, but idk, maybe that OP image was too much for a highly moral Christian board.
>>88742
You have been banned from all boards for posting >>>/pol/229424474, a violation of Global Rule 11:

Advertising (all forms) is not welcome. This includes any type of referral linking, "offers", soliciting, begging, stream threads, etc.

Pffft, looks like someone's afraid of the board free market.
>>88744
i reckon they've got wise to our efforts, we need off world organising chat
>>88672
Nah, just an unbased and bluepilled anarkiddie who really likes Homage to Catalonia. I'm actually a borger.
>>89899
shame
>>89907
imagine writing viva el trotskismo anywhere ever

lmao
An unexpected injury (relative,not me) has me phoneposting from a hospital. I'd rather not be the guy to set up the embassy thread today, as I will not be able to focus my attention on it. No show is much better than a percieved hit and run.
>>90726
It's Catalonia Anon, btw.
>>90727
Like actual Catalonia? Are you in barcelona?
>>90740
No, just used the Catalonia flag in the last /pol/ thread on a whim. I'm beginning to think I need a less misleading shtick - I just wanted a quick and easy way to make my posts stand out as a specific user's, but then someone called me that on here.
>>90740
He's not, but I am
>>90757
Oh don't worry about me, if you want to use it do so, I was just asking since I have never seen another catalan comrade here
>>72673
>using any type of imageboard
>using halfchan
Hello newfag
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https://julay.world/workrelated/
I've noticed this board that is about work, it might be a good place to visit for agitation.
Hello everyone! I'm gonna start up another /pol/ thread in about 30 mins, does anyone wanna join?

Also copying this since the thread is about to roll over.

>>71591
>Greetings /pol/, we are creating this topic as an outreach program from bunkerchan's /leftypol/. Please do not consider this an unfriendly intrustion. Instead, we seek to openly and reasonably share our knowledge about the scientific political weapon that is Marxism. Marxism is a theoretical model that is very effective at understanding power structures, and as such, can and has been used by the anti-capitalist left and the right to further their own political agenda.

Why work with the enemy? Well, we share a lot of common ground, for different reasons, and we believe that if you understood what we are trying to achieve, you too would support us.

The classic example is that of our shared belief in a shadowy minority which controls society. We agree that a small group of people controls government, elections are a sham, and us normal folk have zero power. We seek to take power from the few that control the government now and free us from their reign – of course we differ in that we define this through class and not racial lines.

Another example is the diminishing white population and immigration. We believe that capitalists ravage countries, install corrupt governments, then plunder them, which creates economic refugees. Also, capitalists benefit from cheaper immigrant labor (and can skimp on worker protection laws) so they support immigration. Through Marxism, we can understand that it is unrealistic to create the conditions for economic refugees to exist (carpet bomb all the major cities in a country, for example), and at the same time manage to control undocumented immigration to richer countries, even more so when the people who control the government benefit from this immigration. If we believed in race and wanted to preserve the white race, then applying Marxism shows that immigration won't stop while the powerful groups that controls the US (and its allies) keep creating conditions that cause immigration.

There's two big misconceptions about Marxism that is important to point out now. First off, Marx was the pioneer, but Marxism goes beyond Marx. And second, Marxism does not concern itself with communism as much as you'd think. It is mostly answering the question "How does capitalism work?" and "How does history work". We realize that the pro-worker, pro-communist rhetoric might be off-putting to a lot of people, but it is NOT necessary to share those values in order to reap the benefits of understanding capitalism. Marxism, after all, is a dispassionate mathematical science that comes from the synthesis of great economists like Adam Smith and David Ricardo, placed under the scrutiny of science.

To put it simply, there's a reason that the ruling class spend millions each year to discredit Marxists. If you distrust the mainstream media/economic world, then why trust their propaganda of Marxism? Research the ideas yourself and if you find they are not valuable you can always discard them.

If you're interested in Marxism, there's a lot to choose from and it's a bad idea to give a general recommendation, since it really depends on your tastes. We have a reading materials thread in /leftypol/. Please feel free to pop by and ask for recommendations according to your reading preferences (long dry theory, smaller books, audiobooks, video series, etc).

Anyways, feel free to ask questions relating to Marxism. We would like to progress the dialog along reasoned lines, and we would like to keep the discussion productive – however we are also here to answer questions and perhaps correct any misconceptions about leftism is general. Please consider that a polite and reasoned post is much more likely to get intelligent and informative replies, and vice versa with a dumb shitpost and worthless replies.

For /leftypol/ comrades, please keep answers on topic as much as possible, and avoid shit flinging contests.
>>108005
>lemmie just start a thread when nobodies awake
good plan Australian
>>108009
I'm awake and so are you, don't be a pussy.
>>108005
BTW I'm rewriting this because the last few got banned for 'advertising'



Greetings /pol/, we are creating this topic as an outreach program from your local communists. Please do not consider this an unfriendly intrustion. Instead, we seek to openly and reasonably share our knowledge about the scientific political weapon that is Marxism. Marxism is a theoretical model that is very effective at understanding power structures, and as such, can and has been used by the anti-capitalist left and the right to further their own political agenda.

Why work with the enemy? Well, we share a lot of common ground, for different reasons, and we believe that if you understood what we are trying to achieve, you too would support us.

The classic example is that of our shared belief in a shadowy minority which controls society. We agree that a small group of people controls government, elections are a sham, and us normal folk have zero power. We seek to take power from the few that control the government now and free us from their reign – of course we differ in that we define this through class and not racial lines.

Another example is the diminishing white population and immigration. We believe that capitalists ravage countries, install corrupt governments, then plunder them, which creates economic refugees. Also, capitalists benefit from cheaper immigrant labor (and can skimp on worker protection laws) so they support immigration. Through Marxism, we can understand that it is unrealistic to create the conditions for economic refugees to exist (carpet bomb all the major cities in a country, for example), and at the same time manage to control undocumented immigration to richer countries, even more so when the people who control the government benefit from this immigration. If we believed in race and wanted to preserve the white race, then applying Marxism shows that immigration won't stop while the powerful groups that controls the US (and its allies) keep creating conditions that cause immigration.

There's two big misconceptions about Marxism that is important to point out now. First off, Marx was the pioneer, but Marxism goes beyond Marx. And second, Marxism does not concern itself with communism as much as you'd think. It is mostly answering the question "How does capitalism work?" and "How does history work". We realize that the pro-worker, pro-communist rhetoric might be off-putting to a lot of people, but it is NOT necessary to share those values in order to reap the benefits of understanding capitalism. Marxism, after all, is a dispassionate mathematical science that comes from the synthesis of great economists like Adam Smith and David Ricardo, placed under the scrutiny of science.

To put it simply, there's a reason that the ruling class spend millions each year to discredit Marxists. If you distrust the mainstream media/economic world, then why trust their propaganda of Marxism? Research the ideas yourself and if you find they are not valuable you can always discard them.

If you're interested in Marxism, there's a lot to choose from and it's a bad idea to give a general recommendation, since it really depends on your tastes. We have a reading materials thread. Please feel free to pop by and ask for recommendations according to your reading preferences (long dry theory, smaller books, audiobooks, video series, etc).

Anyways, feel free to ask questions relating to Marxism. We would like to progress the dialog along reasoned lines, and we would like to keep the discussion productive – however we are also here to answer questions and perhaps correct any misconceptions about leftism is general. Please consider that a polite and reasoned post is much more likely to get intelligent and informative replies, and vice versa with a dumb shitpost and worthless replies.

For my comrades, please keep answers on topic as much as possible, and avoid shit flinging contests.
>>108053
Actually, fuck it, I'm more tired than I thought, just let it die if nobody responds.
>>108058
On it.
>>108073
Appreciated, I couldn't sleep so I'm back, though if I could offer a critique I would say try be less troll-ish in your responses, we want to have an open conversation not just shitpost back and forth.
>>108085
Its alright, my style may not be very palatable and I did post some quotes and passages. I delayed my dinner by two hours to help and I find it disturbing that the other comrades didnt join you in an emphatically confronting board. I feel its not right that we let each other do it alone, I feel its right that a few post there along with the OP too.

Get some rest lad you done alright.
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>>108166
Thanks my brother.

It's alright, these things happen, I didn't give anyone any forewarning and it was late afterall.

But wait, there's more important news, I'VE BEEN CAUGHT!!! OH NO, THE GAME IS UP

>Adding this up, OP is very sloppy at covering his tracks, even the very basics.
Anyone fancy doing some more outreach in the near future? I'm kind of sick of /pol/ for now, they're stale, anyone have any more novel suggestions? Maybe some weird subreddit?
>>126170
have we tried r/FULLCOMMUNISM or r/shitliberalssay?
>>126173
Aren't they pretty ok already though? I would rather convince liberals/fashies/weird other positions
>>126173
you'd have a better time trying to draw blood from a rock than to convince /r/anything to become anything more than woke liblets
>>71591
You can enter but will be shot if you leave.
>>126173
Upvote bots are cheap and skewed opinion easy to manufacture.
>>108053
Fuck. I didn't notice this thread getting resurrected. My bad, I would have loved to be there.
>>126170
Let's try some other boards on 4Chan. We could try putting more lefty talking points on /news/ board, or get a nice transhumanism/post-scarcity worldbuilding thead going on/tg/.

More than anything, though, we need to get a more defined and stable network for starting these threads up. This site just isn't busy enough to rely on random traffic on- site to jump in.
>>126660
/lit/, /his/ and /sci/ should be more receptive
/k/ as well (sort of)
>>126660
Okay, that could work, I like it. And yeah, you're right about needing to schedule it better to ensure participation.

I did have a thought though also, how about a mass attack on the Democratic Presidential candidate subs? I think it would be funny to watch Warrenites try to defend capitalism
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Did the mods finally learn to have a Backbone stronger than a melting jellyfish or are they sticking to the attitude of asking for your twitter feed so you have access this board and delete all my posts whenever they feel I can't stick mre than 3 fingers in my asshole.
>>131687
When has any of that ever happened?
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>>131693
see >>75520

I am checking if the moderation team has stopped being a bunch of retards.

It's unfortunately a trend since /leftypol/ where mods can't behave like a functional webmaster and get involved in discord tier dramma.

If you are from here you probably know what I am talking about.

Wanted to check if it stopped already or if the spirit of communism is inherently attached to petty drama.
>>108510
>right click file name
>save link as...
>keeps file name
what's the problem here?
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Okay everything seems in calm now

unsurprisingly, seems the project was shelved

Generals and things like that tend to have an irc or discord with a bot-script announcing the page in the board and people bump it off with bait and images with resources and so on

If there is a mega leftypol-bunkerchan chat, there should be a script telling people where and in which page certain threads are
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>>131701
>just make a bunch of stuff up
<when has that ever happened?
>babble on about other vague shit
>>131711
Ehh? I don't know what this means.
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>>131790
It's when you retards thought it was a good idea to engage mlpol, then users came, then mods decided to delete all the posts from people engeging with them

Read the replies you massive retard

>>131837
It means that the embassy shit was a misshandled mess that should have been handled like people do generals.

with scripts to help bump and post threads like regular generals do, instead of manually
https://boards.4channel.org/tv/thread/124314787

pretty based thread going on rn if you want to get in
>>131926
RIP, archived, seemed pretty good though
>>131926
Anyone wanna make a follow up thread maybe?

Also how the fuck often do these idiots say 'kino'
>>131926
Based. Disney will help us REDpill these /tv/tards. All hail the Mouse!
>>131958
Didn’t know Moore was a ancom.
>>131958
>>131961
Can we not argue about the specifics of ancom vs ansyn etc? I think we have to be a bit more subtle than that lol
>>131958
>>131963
Sorry I went out for work in middle. How did it go lads?
>>131997
Going okay enough I think, but the 'crypto' approach makes it hard to tell if what we're doing is working since nobody is directed back to our board.
https://boards.4channel.org/tv/thread/124327468

another thread we can join up on
>>132012
Can we be more subtle and stick to topics related to /tv/. The mod just deleted that thread.
>>132025
Yeah that one was a bit stanky.

We should try to embody the rules set out in the OP even if we don't use that pasta in particular - be polite, be open, be courteous, etc. Not trollish and inflammatory.
>>132025
>>132026
Perhaps we can make an embassy general that is allowed on /tv/? Obviously it would have to be along the lines of leftist movies, leftist crit, or something general, but we could put our name on it and it could be comfy
>>132025
we didn't make that one, I just saw it and posted it here.
good work today lads, but I am calling it a night
>>132057
Well done everyone, good effort by the anons today! Let's hit them again soon.
>>131998
Yeh I think it’s best if some stay crypto but also someone needs to go balls out, be deliberately inflammatory and then namedrop bunkerchan
>>132318
Best way is funny/provocative memes, pictures and infographics with bunkerchan watermark at the bottom. But they do have to be good quality, and not just the GANGGANG .jpgs
>>132347
Bunkerchan watermark I like
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Howdy fellas. Anyone up for anything tonight?

My thoughts for targets are either /tv/, /lit/, or some weird subreddit like Pete Buttgeig for president. Could be funny.
>>135720
I'm in. I don't have a reddit account though and don't know how to use reddit but am willing to learn
>>135720
not your personal red army
boards.4channel.org/v/thread/486259459
its going down here
>>135731
fuck off. we are all the red army. If you aren't, you are counter revolutionary
>>135720
Hey guys, anyone around tonight? I'm kinda bored.
Hey comrades, a couple of us are pinned down and we could really use some help
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/234727165#p234730686
Use the Communist flag so we can identify you.
>>143642
It’s a waste of time to post on /pol/. They’re braindead. I will help if you guys are gonna raid other boards though.
>>143647
Idk, communism is actually starting to break through their thick-ass skulls. They're currently Nazbols, which is at least better than just being a Nazi.
>>143648
That’s good then. Last time I posted there, every second person called JIDF shill.
that was about 2 years ago though
>>146732
That’s unironically Based thread.
Anyone up for some outreach today in a few hours?
>>147165
Int seems pretty fruitful, i'd say don't even start threads, just enter other threads, they seem to be way less autistic than /pol/
>>147172
What a shit thread, why are they even talking about bong politics, it's all shit regardless of who wins
>>147177
I may join you guys on /int/ after I eat, we should coordinate threads though at least
>>147311
It's 404ed
>>147313
okay, pick a thread and we'll do that (though I think we should identify ourselves as /leftypollers/ at some point
>>147316
I'm not seeing any good candidates so far, anyone have a suggestion?
>>147331
http://boards.4channel.org/int/thread/114903076

this one. Talk about communists are for arming the proletariat
>>147334
>>147336
Euhhh I dunno if I wanna talk about those side issues. Can't we just make our own thread?
http://boards.4channel.org/co/thread/111738314

the squad sucks but maybe we can educate a few people on how fucked the US is, seems like some people here got the idea.
>>148587
I've got your back comrade
>>148645
many thanks, comrade
man they are just not sending their best to /co/
>>148731
yeah it was a lot of triangulating, I try to reach out to the content boards whenever I can because they typically don't bother themselves with any political think. /co/ is a bit more open to it than /v/ or /a/, but it's a crapshoot. Thanks for helping out regardless, even if it didn't seem to bare fruit.
>>148739
if nothing else we pretty well broke their /pol/ tier narratives for anyone who was watching, even if they showed themselves to be committed to their idpol narratives.
>>148587
Wtf is that comic? Also i have no idea what our impact in here was and how cringe you guys did things
>>148804
Standard political comic, they suck. It's bipartisan in how terrible they are.
>>18587
Good effort fellas, though yeah I think it might not have been the best strategy to go to bat for a dumb vanity comic. However, you can only do your best in these things. We can learn and try to make it work next time, and who knows, maybe some lurker for the first time thought about things differently even if only for a second.

Again, I think that making a thread is the best policy, but for posting on hobbyist boards, perhaps we could adapt our opener? Like for example, 'this is an outreach thread from /leftypol/ to discuss leftist comics like X and Y'?
>>148818
What about our outreach? Was it cringe?
>>148832
I mean, pretty much standard stuff. Talking about how American imperialism in South America is bad, to which they didn't have a retort beyond "but niggers in America", so for the most part it was okay? Nothing stellar though.
>>148829
Yeah I'm thinking of doing an actual storytime myself one of these days, is there a good western biographical comic on Marx? I know there's a manga too, but I've never bothered to look it up.
>>148832
Nothing spectacular but fairly standard counters to the US rhetorical hegemony when it comes to these things. Maybe planted the seeds of socialism in a few people, but worst case scenario is we rebutted /pol/ and prevented their narratives from spreading much further than their own anuses.
>>148924
Brilliant, the more we get in their heads the better. Shame that thread is slid so I can't bump it.
>>148924
Also lul the delusion

" You ever wonder why so many garbage threads are kept up and reports are ignored while actual quality threads are slid down? The mods and Jannies do it because they want /pol/ to turn into /leftypol/ 2.0, and they take down any thread calling it out as “off-topic”"

I got banned for 'advertising' the last thread I did
>>148924
Literally rent free.
>>148933
I used to get banned on other hobby boards for trolling /pol/fags AFTER they derailed the thread.
>>148924
funny thing is literally none of us "promote" race mixing or any of that other shit beyond not giving a shit about it all.
>>149659
Well they don't understand Marxism or Anarchism and they probably believe that if you don't ban race mixing, you're promoting it.
>>148935
Feels great, doesn't it? I love it when /pol/ gets trigerred and starts screeching about how they're going to be forced to undergo sexual reassignment surgery and force married to three black men in their liberal/communist society.
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>>150931
>one guy blaming increased insurance cost on Obama
are these faggots moron?
Bump so we can get actual discussion and less spamfaggery.
bump for happening go classpill some proles
>>199196 >cant even post vids wew
>>199196 Threads already down. /pol/yps are the same triggered little bitches that they accuse the left of.
I’m really not comfortable talking to these people, and all the threads get deleted in like 5 minutes anyway. These people all deserve to rot in hell.
>>72101 that's a fox you imbecile
>>199302 well what the fuck do i know, they're pretty similar.
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Tried seeing if any Chapos might be interested in checking out Leftypol, got a predictable response
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>>199360 Is that the asian incel?
>>199360 Give me a link to that I wanna see how it goes down
>>199360 Ah, I see this guy is already familiar with our culture.
>>199362 Aren't most asians incels?
>>199360 What a nigger.
>>199365 https://old.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/ekirlt/hot_take_coming_thru/ Unfortunately downredditing already killed the thread. It's like these people truly cannot comprehend how an anonymous board would work; they can't do discussion without canceling
>>199401 >>199365 The only people less likely to become communist than woke libs is woke libs from reddit. Woke libs are already oversocialized idiots dependent on woke validation for serotonin hits. The ones from reddit are that to the nth degree because of the voting system. You're not going to get people who think that way to adopt a scientific or dialectical framework without fundamentally changing the way they think. Trying to do it by directing them to a community that can't provide the internet points to make them feel ok and is full of the exact shit they're programmed to hate (dissent) is the least effective way to do it.
>>199470 I mean, I used to be a ledditor that lost my shit the first time I was introduced to leftypol’s culture. But then again I always secretly despised much of the woke shit (except Anglo hate, as a black dude at a mostly white college that went to a white HS I’ve learned to fuckin hate most white peeps). Once I acclimated and realized wokeness wasn’t all there I still to leftism and I still easily done by liberals i realized this site is infinitely better than plebbit
Where's the next thread? I use riseup vpn, so, failchan has me blocked, but, being a passive observer sounds nice.
>>200975 Yeah, gimme a live thread
Can I get a copypasta for a communism general thread on /pol/?
>>202091 >>108049 Here it is. And wow this board is getting fast, look at the digit gap between posts!
Ok I like the idea of this thread. I also had a suggestion to have a general on 4chan's /bant/ which can be a bit more friendly and community. the reason for this is because 4pol is incredibly fast and you have to keep threads regularly bumped and also communist threads there tend to get spammed. Not saying it's a bad idea, but a two pronged approach: instant agitation on pol and more discussion and community on /bant/ might work?
>>202218 We haven't tried /bant/ before but it could work, but is it really a good space for discussion where the thread won't just get spammed to oblivion by nonsense?
>>202221 bant is a weird place. It's a bit like old /b/ in some sense. I notice they have a kpop general lol. It could work there especially if people just started off by doing a "leftypol meme dump" thread I just wish that 420chan wasn't so uptight when it came to politics. It's a generally a chill site and the owner will ban nazi shit on sight, but the world news board doesn't allow generals
>>202248 That's because the political shitflinging between invading /pol/niggers, the occasional /leftypol/ crossposters and the resident liberals started seeping into the more popular boards, making the chan far less chill. That said, I think I heard of /leftypol/ for the first time when someone from here posted a thread on 420/pol/ years ago when I was but a regular succdem. Shoutout to that comrade. Haven't even been on 420chan in years now. It was a good run, but /leftypol/ is just a lot more interesting tbh
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>>202262 Well I'm a wrestling fan so I spend time on /wooo/. 420chan's /b/ is pretty funny though too. They probably wouldn't go for a full leftypol thread there, but there's lots of people there sick of polshit. Your comment about finding out about leftypol is telling though. we need better outreach. Someone could be on chans for years and not know this place exists. Are there any good images that have the leftypol url on them?
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>>199478 wokeness is definitely branding bullshit, but I am still curious to know what you now think about the prevalence of nigger as an insult on chans
>>202342 it's something that this site should drop really. It's not edgy anymore, it's used primarily to further pol's agenda of normalising racism
>>202388 yeah, it's lost all its edge
>>202388 I don't use it myself but the battle against normalizing racism has long since been lost.
>>202388 >it's something that this site should drop really. It's not edgy anymore, it's used primarily to further pol's agenda of normalising racism Are we really going to have this discussion again? This idea that this relatively small Albanian carpentry chatspace at the very edge of the internet left is "normalizing" racism by typing nigger is retarded, especially when you look at the context most anons use it in.
We have anti-cuba propaganda in here http://boards.4channel.org/tv/thread/127444165
>>75556 dogpill, I told you about dogpills, dog
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>>208374 reading this was a mistake
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>>208505 Based leftypol blob
>>208505 >Death Squads YES >Slave Labor bruh it's called labour vouchers
Hello, just bumping this thread to say that I added the db8 topic to the OP if anyone wants to participate. Thanks!
>>211438 bumping thread. In case there's still interest of posting on xchan.
I've created a general on pol: https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/239665433 I didn't follow the template as I didn't remember there was one, lol. Everyone get in ehre.
>>214707 Holy fuck these guys are pathologically scared of the world to the point of projecting leftism everywhere, i feel sorry for these americanized dipshits. Also can anyone actually defend the USSR instead of being faggot about it? Also also the strasser pole and the nazifag seem to be reasonable, but their autism is just too retarded
>>214850 I just don't have the energy to defend that fucking debacle, tbh
>>214850 The Finland guy is just the worst, truly gulag worthy
>>208505 didn't know /leftypol/ was this redpilled
>>214856 Then you shouldn't have even posted there (if you did)
>>214879 Being unironically pro a system like the USSR in 2020 is cringe bro
>>214882 This >>214879 Not only that, but, no one is going to listen to the woesnof people nostalgic for a psudeo-democratic, borderline anti worker, regeme. Is everything said about the Soviet Union truth? Not even; however, the faults of the Soviet Union far outweigh the benifits. Workers want full emancipation and nothing less will suffice for the issues we are facing in this world.
>>215938 > however, the faults of the Soviet Union far outweigh the benifits I was in agreement till your anti-communist western ass showed its true colours.
>>215941 >>215945 Both of you need to stop acting like Marxism-Leninism is the only valid position to take. There's more to leftism then your own narrow position.
>>215945 /leftypol/ is not a pro-stalinist tankie board, blow me.
>>215986 Objectively wrong, lib.
>>215994 >36% ML That doesn't mean that this is a tankie board, tho
>>215994 >non-mls outnumber mls you sure showed me
>>215979 Saying that USSR did more bad than good is staunch left-anticommunists position. These were the same people spouting venomous CIA propaganda back when workers superpower was extant. If you think USSR was worse than capitalist countries, you’re no comrade of mine.
>>215998 >not saying USSR was worse than the capitalists is a tankie position
>>215994 >anonymous internet poll Let me just fire up my proxies.
>>216177 Not even properly anonymous as I can't vote with tor. It's basically a poll that only works for Google suckers. Are there other decent polling sites than strawpoll?
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The leftist is anti-individualistic... He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his own ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs.
>>215979 No one is saying this
>>216607 There is no need to proclaim self-evident truths
>>216613 Lmao but stop bruv
>>216028 >If you think USSR was worse than capitalist countries, you’re no comrade of mine. It depends on which standard. In terms of social welfare it was quite nice, probably better than western socdem countries. In terms of political and social liberty, it was more repressive than western states, where at least their sham democracies allowed opposing parties. >>216029 Literally no one said that. They are/were both shit and neither are worth defending.
>>216849 Do you really define "political and social liberty" (what does that even mean) by the amount of parties that are running in elections? Wow, India must be the most free country now. >They are/were both shit and neither are worth defending. Communists who want to have nothing do with history usually end up with history not wanting anything to do with them
>>216857 >Do you really define "political and social liberty" (what does that even mean) by the amount of parties that are running in elections? Wow, India must be the most free country now. That's one example, but people associating into political parties is instrumental to political liberty. There's also the fact that freedom of speech didn't exist, neither did an independent media, or a system of checks and balances. Universal suffrage didn't exist either since the Communist Party had complete control over the government and not everyone was a member or could be a member. Even the democracy within the Communist Party was a sham, since elections weren't secret ballots and factions were banned; if you wanted to get anywhere you had to toe the line and vote how you should vote. >Communists who want to have nothing do with history usually end up with history not wanting anything to do with them I'll gladly have something to do with the Russian Revolution and its Soviets, and if I'm genuine in doing so that means opposition to the Bolsheviks and the counter-revolutionary state they created.
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>check the thread on xchan: 48 replies >thread on leftypol specifically about the above thread: 500+ replies
>>217555 Lmao, it's a slow process.
>>217555 That's not the timeline at all. This thread isn't about xchan. Check the date on OP.
looks like we are setting up some regular threads on 4pol. Bernie threads and someone keeps making an "anti-fascist general" which is a good place to let the stormtards into a few home truths about how they got groomed into their mental illness
>>231632 No one has mentioned leftypol in that entire thread, just sayin
we need an embassy on wizard chan
>>239238 Holy fuck do you want to bring them in here? DO YOU WANT TO SHAKE THE HORNETS NEST?
I'd x10 rather bring over lainons than wizspergs to be honest.
>>277128 >Why do you leftypol trannies hate the white race? >>>/his/

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