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Growing up to be a commie is a bit of a mind fuck ngl Anonymous 02/14/2020 (Fri) 13:49:39 No. 277435
Like, did any of you ever imagine as kids that in the future your/our lives would be swept up in a genuine battle of good and evil with the greatest heroes and villains having yet to even step onto the world stage while the literal fucking end of the world are the stakes? Honestly had someone told me when I was 13 that growing up my generation would be drawn into an age old battle between those with power and those without and that our mission was to save the world or doom the species I'd probably be retarded and think that sounds cool
stop larping
Good and evil is pretty spooky but I would say that destroying the whole planet so you can preserve your ability to sprinkle speckles of gold into your private olympic swimming pool full of trafficked sex slaves is not a very nice thing to do.
>>277435 Nothing really to add but yeah.
>>277435 If you’re trolling then nice bait If you’re serious then I don’t want to be mean but you have a very infantile conception of all of this. We’re not doing this for moral reasons nor do we think of ourselves as the good guys or porky as the bad guy.
You are exactly the kind of person who are going to turn into a neocon before you turn 30. This is not an anime. Grow up.
>>277446 >We’re not doing this for moral reasons nor do we think of ourselves as the good guys What if this is what makes us the good guys? Damn that's good writing.
>>277446 Meh, don't be too harsh, yes technically it's not about morals or good and evil according to Marxist doctrine, it's about rational self interest and so on, but realistically what's the difference? Whether the bourgs think they're the good guys or not, it doesn't matter because their actions are evil. Also nice pic OP.
>>277446 I actually took a whole class on Capital Vol 1 and read the basics of Lenin and Mao to build understanding, and I read people like Cockshott and other more contemporary writers. I just don’t see how the fuck killing the planet, or committing a genocide, or starting a world war; specifically so you can continue accumulating more value from other people’s work, isn’t evil. Like, yea no shit evil is spooky and Capital is amoral not immoral, but also Capital itself comes into existence only through suffering, theft, and typically murder by a few against most.
>>277456 Don't mind the whiners too much, there's always gonna be people complaining. You do your thing, I'm proud of how far you've come comrade.
Wild that people are mad about me saying a parasitic exploitative class that technologically and socially holds mankind back and is destroying the planet is evil because using the word evil doesn’t sound like theoretical dogma. Holy shit even occasionally you can be pseudo normie and acknowledge that to most people good and evil are things that exist.
No lol I just read good things about communism on tumblr when I was a teenager and went to barnes and noble, bought the communist manifesto, and was like damn this is even cooler than they said it was
>>277461 Yeah man, I apologize. Tbh I just quickly skimmed through your post and saw the OP thumbnail and thought you were some /pol/tard trying to call us soyboys or whatever
>>277461 You sound like a twelve-year-old boy who is not yet able to tell fantasy from reality. Chances are high that you will tire of this in a couple of months when you realize that the revolution isn't around the corner.
>>277466 >Doesn’t realize I’ve read Capital Vol 1 >Doesn’t realize I’ve read Lenin and have had to engage in the real life mostly boring work of agitating and organizing >Probably thinks I believe War is fun because when I was a kid the incredibly terrifying future would’ve excited me <If you ever speak in terms other than Marxist jargon you’re a kiddo, kiddo
>>277466 Stop being a dickhead
>>277480 Larping is bad optics.
>>277482 Being an eternal twat is worse 'optics'
>>277482 How is it a LARP? Did I say myself specifically things would happen to? No, I think I’ll just die in fact, unfortunately. I said things would happen to my generation and they would be epic, but not in a colloquial sense, in a biblical sense. And with climate change and the threat of WWIII I don’t see how that wouldn’t qualify as biblical.
>>277435 try the mindfuck you get after growing up always being told how horrible communism was and how lucky you are it's over, only to slowly piece together by yourself that it was all lies
>>277483 Someone has to.
>>277501 Congratulations on your liberation, profit creating debt receptacle.
>>277503 Very brave of you to step up to the plate.
>>277501 Yea I think that was the “existential suicidal terror” phase I had for the summer of 2018
>>277506 It's a battle between good and evil of biblical proportions. I feel honored.
>>277461 Leftypol has post-stirner disorder. They'll moralize all day every day, but if you say evil they'll throw a hissyfit.
>>277446 >We’re not doing this for moral reasons [christcom intensifies] But yeah most of us don't see it that way, you're right. >>277450 >Also nice pic OP. Projecting your politics onto Star Wars is barely a step above projecting your politics onto Harry Potter. >>277461 I think the really visceral reaction is more in part to your phrasing and your picture than your actual stance. I see you say you're well-read and I'll take your word for it, but talking about good vs evil + using a pop culture pic does make you seem like a young person who thinks communism is cool. Kind of a "radical chic" thing. I will say though, >even occasionally you can be pseudo normie and acknowledge that to most people good and evil are things that exist makes it seem like you're backpeddling and saying that instead of you personally believing in good and evil, you're for some reason talking about what "most people" believe as if that's somehow relevant here, a place where "most people" will never end up.
>>277511 I do believe good and evil exist though, I don’t deny that, I’m not on stirnerfag shit
>>277512 But do you think that the revolution will be some kind of Star Wars thing? Anon above is onto something when he says that it is barely a step above projecting your politics onto Harry Potter. You don't want to be the communist version of the resistance libs who are trying to resurrect Dumbledore's Army IRL.
>>277514 No dude, I just think it’s a cool picture. In reality I’m scared shitless about the future, I’m terrified for the safety of my family, I already see the same despair that almost destroyed me start to grip my family as things get worse and worse. I just try being optimistic and try having hope...
>>277514 It's just a meme bro. The revolution isn't going to involve catgirls either but we can still have our comfy cultural icons.
>>277512 Well then I would at least say that you should know that the majority here aren't too friendly to good and evil and to borrow from another dead German and trying to think beyond it, and that the debate as to whether you can find serious objective morality in mature Marx leans heavily towards no, so it's not just Mr. Memespook permeating here. Again though, your idea = "debatable," your presentation = "poor." B- overall.
>>277528 >leftypol bout to deny they have personal morals Ayy
>>277523 I wish we could have a little more realism and a little less cringy shit. That goes for catgirls too. It doesn't matter on an Albanian basket weaving forum but we have to be conscious about the image we are projecting to the rest of the world.
>>277528 >the majority here aren't too friendly to good and evil and to borrow from another dead German and trying to think beyond it Mate Nietzche-posters easily deserve to get bullied worse than moralfags
>>277536 The alt right is openly pro masturbating to underage lolis and gore pics, how has that stopped them? 'optics' are mostly workerist bullshit, the workers should just be who they are proudly. Trying to gatekeep and police who is and isn't letting the side down is a waste of effort.
>>277520 >In reality I’m scared shitless about the future, I’m terrified for the safety of my family, I already see the same despair that almost destroyed me start to grip my family as things get worse and worse. I just try being optimistic and try having hope...
>>277551 We should be a mass movement and to be a mass movement we have to appeal to normies. You can discard optics as a concept as much you want to but the truth is that these things matter in the real world. The alt right has no real power. I want us to have real power one day. Catgirls and anime will not get us there.
>>277563 Resident drawfag here, As much as I love drawing anime and our resident catgirls, I must agree.
>>277554 same poster What you noted about seeing that 'Doomerism' grip those around you reminded me of something; I saw someone on here talk about 'ego-death' recentley and that really hit me. It took me losing all hope for the future and my sense of self, which was largely made up of consumer culture BS, for me to really get serious with all this stuff. Would people here say that one has to reach this 'rock-bottom' state before they become susceptible to our ideas?
>>277563 >The alt right has no real power. They literally memed their chosen president into the white house and prime minister into downing street, you can't say they don't have any power. >>277567 You can prize my catgirls and my furry trash from my cold dead hands.
>>277574 There is a lot of reasons for why Trump is in the White House and Bojo in number ten, but autists on /pol/ is not one of them. And go ahead and be a furry as much as you want to, just don't bring your furry shit into our movement.
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>>277574 >They literally memed their chosen president into the white house and prime minister into downing street
>>277577 I'll admit that /pol/ isn't the entire reason, but I think it's naive to act like they aren't part of the reason, them and their more 'polite' propaganda arms basically control a lot of online discourse.
>>277570 Liberalism promises a lot, basically everything communism promises and more, you have to completely lose hope in it to fully turn.
>>277581 If that is the case, how can we push people to that 'snapping point' since most still believe in liberalism despite it all (even if they don't know what it even truly means)?
>>277586 They haven’t really even hit Victorian levels yet

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