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Rules, Moderation and Manifesto Feedback. Anonymous Board volunteer 01/08/2020 (Wed) 09:46:23 No. 203786
🚨🚨🚨 >>>/roulette/ is /tech/! 🚨🚨🚨 REMINDER TO VISIT >>>/hobby/ Don't: -spam -post cuckshit, "commies BTFO," or any of that kind of shit -post any porn depicting underage (including drawings) -attempt to cloak reactionary politics in left-wing rhetoric (Strasserism, "Nazbol" Strasserism, National "Socialism," Zionism, "Die cis scum"/"Kill all white men" SJW shit) -incite specific acts of terrorism or similar acts (use your head, don't act like a fed) -post idpol Do: -be respectful, ask questions, and know your place if you're a reactionary -feel free to flame, shitpost, and be sectarian if you are a leftist (just keep it somewhat within reason) If you think that the mod team hasn't responded to your request in a satisfactory manner or that it was ignored, you can now contact us directly at [email protected] Comatoast, the vol who kindly proposed this, checks this email account everyday day but might not respond immediately due to work. You can check any activity on this board, including the activity of the mod team (ban, deletions, etc...) here : https://bunkerchan.xyz/logs.js?boardUri=leftypol You can find the manifesto in a pdf appended to this post /GET/ is Bunkerchan's general/shitposting board and /ref/ its international board. leftybooru https://lefty.booru.org/index.php Meta Discussion: Extraordinary Commission For Bunker Affairs: >>>/gulag/768 Development of Bunkerchan: >>>/gulag/3941
Edited last time by antious666 on 01/27/2020 (Mon) 16:52:48.
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>>246106 What?
>>246106 You know that your autism has managed to get both me and space to post in this thread right? We are different people. Different mods. Different countries.
>>246106 too be honest I have noticed these weird patterns of posting also. The description of the angry incel stirnerite poster I also agree with, on top of that, they are pro pedo or have made many pro pedo posts and i think they have been posting here for a long time. As well shitting up of threads on purpose in order that they get deleted. I'm not sure the nihilist stirnerist is the same as the mod samefagging though
>>246112 >I'm outed Okay. And this is what I've LITERALLY talked about here: >>245639 MODS CAN'T DO SHIT AGAINST AN INCEL SHITPOSTER THAT DELETES POSTS (WITHOUT TRACE) AND SHITS UP THREADS (WITHOUT TRACE) IF HE IS ONE AMONGST AND ABOVE THEM, MEANING HE IS THE FUCKING SITE OWNER. OUR COMMUNITY IS LITERALLY SUBVERTED BY A FUCKING PSYCHO AND OUR TEAM CAN'T DO SHIT ABOUT IT.
>>246121 like, i'm not sure your theory entierly holds up, but im almost certain there is a poster here with extremely fucked up and bizzare intentions. The poster who first immitated me, not for a lol, but they seemed really genuinely angry. I have noticed the style of their posting for months now
>>246122 incoming: 2-3 posts against this one (as per usual)
>>246122 Take your meds. I'm very hands off when it comes to moderation (look at the fucking logs) And congrats on only just discovering who owns Bunkerchan new fag.
>>246126 and i also had my suspicions they were a mod, but also couldn't be sure, but they seemed to always be there to defend the mods and it was always around the same talking points
>>246127 >Mods being confused by my incoherent ramblings means I'm right Whatever makes you sleep better Good night.
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>>246108 What am I going to do, state that I started the Sage posting meme? Send in an email showing all my shitposting and the fact I only post here and in semi off-topic threads? What about you give me a good word with Comatoast *wink wink* ?
god and I thought this thread couldn't get any more entertaining
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>>246129 >>246126 >>246121 holy shit, so there IS a plot to destroy /leftypol/
>>246126 At this point I genuinely don't care what you have to say. As far as I'm concerned the facts are the following: >we have an incel/psycho/pomo-post-ironic-troll that shits up threads as he likes >deletes posts if they lay his (trolling) intentions bare >several posters noticed "his" patterns btw, lol, as I said, and as per usual: >>246127 >>246128 <dag u're meds (see above the same fucking post, same fucking pattern IN EVERY THREAD) At this point I'm asking BO to react to the fact that we have a root that modifies the board as he wishes, and how he'd like to deal with the fact.
>>246121 This tbh. >>246122 Space is way too normal to do something that bizarre. I think these are two separate weird things. >>246136 And people will STILL say we shouldn't have conspiracy threads.
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>>246139 >the facts >posts no actual facts just schizo shit
>>246146 there is two other people corroborating different parts of it. Its quite clear there is something happening, the exact details aren't clear, could just be an extremely angry autist, which is whatever. If there is mod involvement thats a different thing though
>>246139 >>246144 CATS FOOT, IRON CLAW, NEUROSURGEON SCREAMS FOR MORE! 21st Century Schizoid man. I also don't modify the board as I wish. But seriously take your meds.
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>this entire fucking thread
>>246140 My posting history consistently shows (esp. with regards to coronavirus shit, also subverted by Space "for the lols" that I'm against conspirashit). This is not like that. Our "root" (for non-linux users: the literal 9000+ power level "i can do anything I want" person, even above BO's power level) is a comfirmed shitposter and manipulator of threads. That's it. We are not any freer on this platform than on 8ch.
>>246153 But the manipulation of the threads is simply posting in them like a retard, which anyone can do.
the thing is, many old fags will attest to the fact there has been a consistent anarcho nihilist poster for basically the whole of leftypol history, who has at various different times done some crazy things. One time i was certain he was going to kill himself cos he dumped soooooooooooooooooo many collected memes and screencaps etc (thousands) and was making posts that suggested this was kind of all he had and was dumping it for posterity. This was in maybe early 2016ish but the dates are hazy
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>>246140 >Space is way too normal to do something that bizarre. I think these are two separate weird things. That's what he wants you to think.
>>246155 Not true. Imagine a BO (any BO) abusing his powers. Now imagine a faggot who controls the entire site abusing his powers: >>246052
>>245347 Do not give into the retards. Just saying "fuck trannies hahaha lol" is idpol and pure reactionary faggotry.
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>>246148 > Its quite clear there is something happening, the exact details aren't clear Yea the frogs are turning gay Mr Jones. >>246149 Btw a schizoid is not a schizo hilarious enough. Schizo is short for schizophrenic, a schizoid is someone who has lost his emotions and cannot make connections with other people. Aka most people on chans.
>>246160 Could say that about Jim Watkins. I have never once abused my powers. Quite being new and lurk more or take your meds.
>>246161 No one who autist666 bans says "fuck trannies hahaha lol", he doesn't even look at the posts he deletes. If he sees the word "tranny" he insta bans, yet if he sees the words "incel" or "nigger", that's a-ok by him.
>>246162 there was also posts not that long ago in this thread which literally attested to some twitter fag stalkling prominent leftypol posters. They called it "infosec" but that was literally the stated intention
>>246160 But where is it happening in reality? There are two things happening: Someone is being a big retard, and someone, maybe the same person, sometimes deletes posts. These posts that are deleted are all logged in the logs, so you will find them there.
>>246165 >No one who autist666 bans says "fuck trannies hahaha lol", he doesn't even look at the posts he deletes. If he sees the word "tranny" he insta bans, yet if he sees the words "incel" or "nigger", that's a-ok by him. Good point. Hard to get upset by tranny if you're not upset by faggot or nigger. Incels call themselves incels on here though.
>>246166 You mean the L I T E R A L L Y W H O that said he was going to "ebin doxxorz" leftypol mods, yet never did? Epic.
>>246164 >take your meds >>246038 >I would advice you to take some meds bruv >>246128 >Take your meds. All Space, btw. THIS SAME PATTERN APPEARS IN ALMOST ALL OF OUR FUCKING THREADS, MOTHER FUCKING COMRADES OF BUNKERCHAN!
>>246166 Is this that anarchist turned fed guy who was the obsession of stupidpol for a bit? Soeller was it?
>>246169 It isn't hard to get upset by the word "tranny" when you are a radlib tranny like autist666 is.
>>246171 Take your meds
>>246171 As meatloaf once sang. "Two out of three ain't baaaaad" Take your meds.
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I knew it was getting good when he broke out the ebin text
I have my suspicions the posts under the name of "Space_" are all made by the same person.
>>246171 Hey guys, Space here. Just letting you know to take your meds since Space is doing so as well.
>>246150 furry janny is in full damage control mode derailing and sliding criticism
>>245953 >We can identify you from your faggoty post style and content. We don't need access to ips to know you're cycling ips when you keep posting in the same threads as if you're the same person with only 2 or 3 or so posts per IP. Again how would you know I’m posting the same “2 or 3” IPs. Or can you tell what my IPs are from my writing style as well?
>>246187 bigbrains know that Space is also the freudposter
>>246000 It's interesting how much you care about Freud, but not enough to actually read those books that criticize him or to at the very least cross-check when they quote him saying retarded shit. You just intuitively "know" that it can't be right. They are misquoting him or quoting him out of context, perhaps both, yeah, that's the ticket, and you "know" it. (A very special type of "knowing", you just "know" it in your heart. A very intense type of "knowing" too, much more intense than how, say, an Anglo professor could ever know something.) But somehow you can't post a cogent rebuttal since you aren't familiar with those passages as they appear in Freud's writing. Which makes one wonder how you got familiar with Freud in the first place – shredding his books and taking that up the nose, perhaps? And you also "know" that Freud matters for communism, though you have never shown so much as a single quote of him praising Marx or the communist movement. >>246052 >>you start spreading actually autistic Alex Jones lizard goblin tier conspiracy shit >I did no such thing, and I think others ITT can clearly see that. Yet in the same post you say: >at least one of my posts that made clear one of the posters (probable mod's) malice has been deleted And in the Freud thread you said: "OP IS YOUR MOTHER FUCKING ENEMY." >>246160 >Now imagine a faggot What if I told you I'm talking to one right now.
>>246187 Yea honestly the post style is so obvious, its clear that space is the technocratic nihilist stirnerist incel.
>>246191 Maybe your guys problem is taking the meds. Maybe you should stop taking them.
>>246086 >We know you cycle ips because you post on chains of replies. How does that tell you what IPs I’m posting from? I’d really like to know so I can use this feature of the website as well.
>>246170 yeh i thought nothing of it, and as i said i still don't necesarily think they are a mod, but i can attest to one particular poster with a similar style, who was always present around certain topics and timeframes, who seemed about twice or three times as autistic as the usual posters. I did feel like the behaviour overstepped the usual bounds of image board bant. It seemed very obsessive. Like they were saying things they didn't actually believe in a kind of confused anger. Now freudfag reports similar behaviours and like i said i have also noted the presence of an absolutely bat shit an-nil poster for longer than i have been on this board. When i first started posting they were already and established poster >>246173 i dont knoow what this is please explain?
>>246197 Freud = Space = Caballo = Schizoposter = Incelposter = Hoochie Minh
Can anyone give me a better format, please? I'm trying the state of this thread as it is, proving that our root (Space) is basically fucking up our community.
>>246204 >I'm trying the state of this thread as it is *save
>>246204 Archive.is chief.
>>246202 also to be clear im not even sure the harraser and the an-nil person are the same, or if they are a mod, just saying i have 1) felt mildly harrassed, not in a way that scared me or anything i was more just like fuck this guy reallllly doesn't like my posts, of course it pissed me off at points . 2) I have also noticed the an nil poster and am fairly certain, given the description, its the same one from way back. They used to post very large "effortposts" that were pro pedo
>>246203 Oh shit. This goes deep.
>>246203 Freud = Space = Caballo = Schizoposter = Incelposter = Hoochie Minh = rebel_absurdity = muke = SARGON OF AKKAD.
>>246195 >only 2 or 3 or so posts per IP. >Again how would you know I’m posting the same “2 or 3” IPs. When the reading comprehension is good.
>>246210 all me btw
>>246210 >trying to save face this hard
>>246208 I don’t think they are either, but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t working together even unknowningly. As others have said, the mods will let a troll endlessly bait threads they don’t like and when anons lash back it’s used as an excuse to anchor the whole thread because “it was cancer”.
>>246210 all posts are Sage, Sage is in all of us, he is cumming inside us
>>246202 Peter Soeller is/was a twitter anarcho-liberal who thought to expose some big nazbol conspiracy led by Amber Frost.
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>>246202 Yes I can see what your saying to be truthfull and full of wisdom. I too have felt the vibrations of dark energy from the nihilist incel. Only by cumming together can we emit an energy shockwave powerful enough to shatter the dark one, and free ourselves from the reign of terror.
>>246215 TIL: Sage#no.3242.is also Space.
>>246217 >>246214 >more mod deflection.
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>>246210 Rebel made such a cute trap smh >>246219 >Space is also Sage VIDEOGAME.WEBM
>>246219 dude im agreeing with a lot of what you are saying. You aren't doing yourself favours. Particularly i forgot to mention it was like the enraged person made comments which suggested they had access to mod stuff
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>>246226 Oh shit.
>>246216 is he the same guy who accused Brace Belden of being a rapist?
If the mods aren’t conspiring to wreck threads why’d the Corona thread calm down after anons started to accuse people of being mods an trying to bait everyone?
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Proof that Space is abusing the site, goes above the head of our vold team, and users: http://archive.is/1UQJo SAVE THIS LINK AND POST IT IN EVERY FUCKING THREAD UNTIL THE VOLS HAVE THE DECENCY TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERN
Based schizo just wanted to entertain us during the BIG GAME, I see you my guy
>>246232 and on the pedo thread, the excuse used was " X % of posts are saying its skitzo" and therefore it should be deleted. Posts also appeared, as they do around all pedo threads i have noticed, which say something along the lines of "everyone wishes they were epstein lol you are all just jealous" which i suspected to be said an nil poster
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>>246217 Did you say the DaRk? The Dark threads beckons you. Those drawn to the Dark are destined to seek it.
>>246236 >SAVE THIS LINK AND POST IT IN EVERY FUCKING THREAD UNTIL THE VOLS HAVE THE DECENCY TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERN I'm already on it http://archive.is/1UQJohttp://archive.is/1UQJohttp://archive.is/1UQJohttp://archive.is/1UQJohttp://archive.is/1UQJo
>>246238 Have you noticed someone has linked to a chan infested with pedoshit a number of times?
>>246236 I don't think i want to do that.
>>246242 gib hex plox
If Freud=Space then who is News Anon?
>>246267 thisisntrealyouhavetowakeupthisisntrealyouhavetowakeupthisisntrealyouhavetowakeupthisisntrealyouhavetowakeup
>>246267 Our current one is 3.0. Probably have been more than 3 at this point. I tried it once or twice when nobody was doing it.
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>>246250 no, have you?
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>>246260 Leave me alone. I am interested in one thing. Dark. You haven't the gift.
>>246204 OOF you name dropped yourself so I'm going to remove the pdf.
>>246282 No. We will cum together as one and banish the dark away forever.
Can anyone sum up what the fuck is happening in this thread without acting like a total fucking schizo? Whats the problem? People got banned for saying "fuck trannies"?
>>246280 Yes it was called 8chamel I believe
>>246282 check my stats again you stupid faggot >>246284 lmao
>>246294 are you taking the piss or is there a chan called 8chamel? I'm not saying "omg there is pedoshit on chans" im saying there is one poster who posts pro pedo stuff among many, who has a very distinctive style
>>245786 >schizo >>245806 >some schizo faggo >>245822 >Truly he is a based and pure schizo >>245893 >How many levels of schizo are you guys on >>246057 >just after the schizo managed to de-escalate the boiling pot of rage >>246072 >the conspiracy theories were just schizo shit >>246149 > Space_##m0Wyzz 02/03/2020 (Mon) 02:12:36 No. 246149 >>246162 >>246139 >>246144 CATS FOOT, IRON CLAW, NEUROSURGEON SCREAMS FOR MORE! 21st Century Schizoid man. >>246162 >Btw a schizoid is not a schizo hilarious enough. Schizo is short for schizophrenic, a schizoid >>246203 >Freud = Space = Caballo = Schizoposter = Incelposter = Hoochie Minh >>246210 > Space_ Root 02/03/2020 (Mon) 02:32:19 No. 246210 >>246212 >>246213 >>246215 >>246224 >>246226 >>246203 Freud = Space = Caballo = Schizoposter = Incelposter = Hoochie Minh = rebel_absurdity = muke = SARGON OF AKKAD. >>246237 >Based schizo just wanted to entertain us All Space, btw.
>>246171 SAME PATTERN THAT APPEARS IN ALL THREADS >>246303
It's over. COINTELPRO has won.
>>246305 You are cointelpro. There is fucking nothing actually happening outside of your schizo mind.
>>246236 🙄 Now Freudposter is bumping threads with this shit, but he is not bumping the Freud thread of course.
>>246301 While I haven't seen such a poster, I'm saying I saw a strange post encouraging anons to go to an obscure chan that was overrun with pedoshit.
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>>246293 Originally the complaint was that jannies allow shitposters to shit up threads which the jannies don't like, so that jannies could justify anchoring/deleting them. Then Schizokiddie shat up the thread by mass (you)'ing everyone with cringe paranoia, Sage (t.sage) came in and supported schizokiddie because... He's fucking Sage that's why, faggot etc. Mods and posters are just shitposting since thread is dead and the original complaints will be lost in time and left unreplied to. Why? Because the furry jannies suck each other off in riotchat and only come here to troll Sage and schizokiddies.
>>246310 How retarded are you? Someone was promoting 8channel because it was a website someone made as a replacement to 8chan.net which is the site we used to be on. Which was delisted from google for having pedo boards.
>>246311 >Schizokiddie t. Space >>246304
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>>246303 All me (space btw)
>>246310 yeah i remember that. someone was trying to ressurect 8ch and it was called 8channel. but all the pedo boards got there first so it was mostly those boards and that spooked any of the other communities from going. looks like its gone already though
>>246315 >t. space t.space
Just gonna spit straight facts here. Freud = Space = Caballo = Schizoposter = Incelposter = Hoochie Minh = rebel_absurdity = muke = SARGON OF AKKAD = Anita Sarkeesian = Wade Davis = Rodent = Reuben = Yozam = MegaMilk = Mr.keks = Jason Unruhe = Sage = Me = You = Mexie = Hbomb = Pol Pot
>>246314 That wasn't the url but yeah you're probably right
>>246317 They just switched domains its still online and still 100% pedoshit.
>>246322 >>246321 >>246319 >>246317 >>246316 Notice Space's posting pattern, plaguing all of this community's threads.
>>246321 Everyone = Everyone but me I HAVE TO WAKE UP!
>>246323 >They just switched domains its still online and still 100% pedoshit. How do you know all this in such current and specific detail?
>>246322 Yeah I remembered when I saw this post: >>246317 It's been awhile. 8chan.net was the polish website that all the /pol/tards would try to raid by mistake.
>>246321 Nano?
>>246329 I used to run a shitty altchan so now I like to keep track of all of the 8chan splinter groups and stuff.
>>246311 I wasn't agreeing with what hes saying entirely. Just that there is one poster who lashes out a lot and has exhibited "stalking" tendencies. Like I said before, not even sure they actually really believed in heavy moderation or whatever, it just seemed like a personal attack. I was not alleging and have never alleged some mod conspiracy, just mod retardation. On that, this thread is clearly proof mr space that some things are very fucked. People, the userbase, have critisms to make of the mod style. Can we at least have a sensible adult conversation about how to move things forward, one that doesn't involved either the banhammer or mass incel posting. Can we literally just talk about some options that could possibly be taken, weigh them up.
>>246335 Yes it is me, Nanotech the owner of Freech!!!
>>246321 you forgot that all of these are actually Satan Nazi
>>246340 Oh shit. Anyone have her nudes still?
>>246340 Are you talking about that one goon who would post stuff under the satanist flag back in the day?
>>246347 it was a she and she was a sex worker of some description and would post based skitz stuff a lot. This was back when /leftypol/ was a fun place interesting and crazy people liked to hang out.
>>246339 gave yourself away when you said Yozam :^)
>>246347 I thought he was talking about "Satankun" or whoever on old leftypol who was like a hooker or something and posted her nudes. Am I remembering that right?
>>246350 yeah sure sucks all the crazy people left........
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>>246338 Hey Sage, My name is Sage, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are Sage, Jannies, and Comatoast who spend every second of their day looking at bunkerchan logs. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever let Sage in your ass? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take Sage in your ass to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures of my tits. Don’t be a spook. Just hit me with your best cum. I’m pretty much perfect. I was banned from leftypol, and cried in the mod thread. What posts do you make, other than “hey guys, Sage here”? I also get false flagged, and have a banging hot boyfriend (Sage just came in me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
>>246354 it was many kek and did no harm to anyone. It made the place more colourful and therefore attractive
>>246356 >>246340 >>246321 Now if Freud and Space will just post their tits we can crosscheck to see if they are all the same poster.
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>>246370 >Are the furries gone No. Cabello got a """""""""""""""""""""""""stern talking to"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""". In reality the mods just fellated each other and posted more furfaggotry.
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>>246311 Are the Furries gone or do we need to bombard the vols along with whatever Freud poster is.
>>246375 meant for >>246376
>>246376 the furries aren't important compared to the new revelation that there actually is someone going around derailing threads and they either have a vol protecting them or are themselves a vol.
>>246380 >t. cabello still on damage control this entire thread
>>246381 >t. comatoast/yui/richard wolff trying to deflect the blame
>>246375 Are you the anon autistically obsessed with the idea of vols cybering with each on riotchat?
>>246386 >Are you the anon autistically obsessed with the idea of vols cybering with each on riotchat? They do that?
>>246388 Yeah and it's kind of hot actually. t. ex-mod
>>246356 nice pair
>>246388 It may or may not be the fantasies of one particularly deranged autist
>>246386 >no denial that jannies cyber each other on riotchat >>246385 >t. furfag still praying people forget hes a disgusting mess of a """"""human"""""
>>246398 Take your meds schizo :^)
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Hello, this conspiracy was kind of funny but it has gone too far now. I'm Caballo, please address any and all concerns you have right now to me. But in short, no, there isn't a massive mod conspiracy (yes yes I know MRDA), we are doing our best to deal with the problems that arise. Yes, there is a problem with too much spam and shitposting which is why we're recruiting new mods, but as the Army chair poster pointed out, we get complaints no matter what we do or don't do which makes it difficult to formulate good policy. As for whether Space is some psycho stalker, I don't think that's the case though I suppose he could be hiding it from us too, but in seriousness, no, when people are accused of IP switching it isn't because we can see your IPs, it's because it's obvious that a poster with one post in their history that is continuing some autistic argument has been posting previously with a different IP. I can't see anybody's IP nor do I care to. As for whether shitposters have been intentionally derailing threads, I don't know, maybe, maybe they're just massively autistic and can't help but derail, but I don't think it's anyone in the mod team. Oh, and to the guy who posted the 'clay people' video, I did delete that post, because I watched the video and it wasn't funny and I didn't want anyone else to waste their time (no offence), and it was off topic cause this is for mod feedback. And to the people saying that I'm anonflagging to support myself, do you really think I'm a small enough attention whore to pretend to not be who I am? Come on now. Any more questions?
>>246411 >As for whether Space is some psycho stalker Which he is. >I suppose he could be hiding it from us too Well, as a fucking ROOT maybe he has the fucking POWER to do that, no? Just look at his fucking posting pattern ITT, holy fucking shit. MODS SHOULD READ THE FUCKING THREAD BEFORE DOING DAMAGE CONTROL >a poster with one post in their history Space. >I can't see anybody's IP nor do I care to. <I'm not willing to do my one (1) single job, so fuck off. No, you fuck off. >I don't know, maybe READ. THE. FUCKING. THREAD.
>>246430 I read the thread fully and it is nothing but deranged conclusion hopping, literal polshit. >Which he is. Wow, you got me, I believe you now. In seriousness, Space pays for the site hosting out of his own pocket and it's not that cheap, what do you think his incentive is for doing that and then trying to destroy the board for his own amusement? If he wanted to kill the board he could just pull the plug on us.
>>246411 lazy fucking shit, why do you even volunteer for janitoring? >>246304 >>246210 is same as >>246203 >>246199 (typical just "throwing random words" THAT HAS BEEN SHITTING UP ALL OF OUR THREADS) >>246112 (not true) >>246106 (same pattern) >>246081 (sudden "same content" posts) >>246052 What this faggot actually does to users.
>>246411 First of all, kill yourself. Second of all, I can't believe your still a jannie (actually who am I kidding of course you still are). Third of all, no one cares that shitposters exist, nice deflection furfag. People care that jannies do not ban/delete posts of shitposters, allow threads to derail, and then anchor/delete the thread under the justification of "lel it was cancer"(because you left it to become cancer). All the while your online carebearing your own threads, and ignoring reports in threads you aren't in.
>>246442 like 60% chance that this is Space as well
>>246436 >conclusion hopping, literal polshit. >>246153 Fuck you.
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>>246441 I see no pattern. Is it possible you just have pareidolia mate? It just looks like random noise. Maybe take a step away from the PC for a while, no offence, just take a walk for a bit and listen to some music. We can all get a little too wound up sometimes. >>246442 There is so much shitposting that it's impossible to effectively deal with it all at this point. Again, the recruitment of new mods should help with this somewhat as will the new manifesto draft once it's approved. At this point yes, it's easier to just anchor/delete threads than try to sort through 400 posts of trash sometimes. >>246447 Not even sure what point this is trying to make.
freudposter if you're serious about your allegations, why would you spam and derail unrelated threads, to complain about space doing, what you're actually doing.
>>246457 I don't think freud is doing the spamming
>>246460 yeah its him >>246236
>>246460 I'm not.
>>246411 >(no offence) im offended but fine whatever. do you know anything about this poster >>246372 >>245500 and why they think people are bullying them?
>>246457 >allegations Yeah, I'm here to shit on the community I've been part of from the very beginning. /'casm >>246000
I'm not for actually growing this community or anything, oh wait >>244735
>>246466 well you told people to post it in every thread, and now someone is posting what you allege in every thread. everyone else seems to agree space_ is innocent
>>246465 Sorry. And no I don't know anything about that. >>246466 Maybe you actually believe what you're saying, but that doesn't make it true or useful to the board.
>>246472 >everyone >>246025 >I think you've got a good point
>>246476 >>I think you've got a good point I was talking about one person being responsible for shitting the place up matching your description, not that Space_ or even a mod is doing it.
>>246455 We are literally reporting the shitposts for you, doing your job. Yet you guys are too incompetent for that? Of sorry of course not, when it's your favorite thread you come in within seconds of a report. When the word "tranny" or "furfag" appear it's within seconds. Yet when its a "soy and cancer thread" it's now impossible, all the while you guys are deleting other posts and go into the same "soy and cancer" thread to post there? Kill yourself, the bias is so obvious.
>>246474 But none of this matters, really. It's basically >(fucked over) random user* vs. root >the former points out that there's a fucking OBVIOUS pattern of posting to the ROOT'S posting >the latter makes post very similar to all derailment attempts: "take your meds," "you are schizo", dilate <- not here, tho >>246480 not me *btw I've been complaining about this like 4 months ago, BO can confirm
>>246486 >not me I know because it is me.
>>246482 This has nothing to do with anything, and is most likely posted by Space.
>>246489 t. space on damage control
>>246489 >t. space (me) t. space
>>246488 >most likely posted by Space
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>>246486 I don't see any pattern. So no I don't think it's obvious. >>246482 Sure but when a shitpost is reported, I need to go to the mod menu and go to the thread in order to see the context, which isn't that easy with our busted up back-end system, then I need to read the posts around that post to know if it should be removed or not. Then, if I do remove posts or ban someone, there's a decent chance that they will come complain in here so that's more work to rebut them and defend my decision. Not saying it's not worth the effort but it is, of course, easier to moderate topics which we ourselves are reading and posting in because we already know the context of everything. >>246488 >>246489 >>246490 >>246491 >>246493 Stop this one sentence bickering, it makes the thread unusable. If you don't have anything valuable to say, don't say it.
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I will lift this post since I didn't check if the other spams were you or not and assumed it was all one person, but for future reference, 'other people were doing it!!!!' and 'the thread sucked anyways!!!!' is not an excuse. Christ it's like I'm dealing with children here.
>>246496 >le not even worth my time >I have to defend myself on the mod thread >admits to being biased towards threads they like Hard grasping for straws furfag, if your too lazy and shit at your job to properly moderate a thread then don't "moderate"(aka anchor/deletion" the thread at all. All you faggots do is leave threads you don't like as a half shitposted thread, and then delete it even if there is some conversation still going. You create a problem out of incompetence and then punish the users for your laziness and lack of ability.
>>246496 >I don't see any pattern. >>246164 <space >take your meds. >>246128 >Take your meds >>246203 >>246210 Sudden same-content posts after he is called out: >>246080 >>246072 >>246069 Here, again: >>246086 >>246093 >>246095 >>246496 >Stop this one sentence bickering I'm the actual user who has been reporting "one sentence back-and-forth" and "chat session" posts, for crying out loud.
But asks yourselves, since you, as mods have a closer relationship to this faggot. Does this describe him? >>245639 >1) incel >2) nihilist >3) stirnerite >4) post-leftist >5) po-mo post-ironic troll, >6) (etc., honestly) Was this him? >>245708 >We were like 2 weeks into transitioning after 8ch has shudded down, and actual (and reasonable) requests started comin' in from our userbase. Shit like >plz fix this >plz add this feature >etc. >And then suddenly a fucking furious faggot (most likely site owner / programmer) had a (typical) breakdown and started attacking the fucking userbase for asking too much! >He be like: >I'm doing all I can and you can suck my kok, for all I care >And then one of the (transitioning) vols calmed him down saying like >you need sleep, comrade, thx for your work, etc.
>>246506 are you fucking serious? impersonating a mod? you're far too quick with the hammer.
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>>246508 'take your meds' is a common meme, and it's the same person by their tripcode, I see nothing suspicious there. This thread is clearly pretty active especially when there's drama so I don't think you can claim that everyone posting in quick succession (minutes is not that quick either) is the same person. The army chair poster is, it seems, posting again to say they made an edit to put with the post but used the wrong pic accidentally. Nothing suspicious there. If you've been reporting it then great but right now you're still doing it. Oh and by the way, in the future I'm going to ban anyone who is impersonating Space because it's getting too confusing. Last warning. You should know that mod impersonation is not allowed. >>246507 Again, we are doing our best, sorry that you don't like it but in 99/100 boards you would just be banned and told to fuck off for complaining like this, I've given you a response which is all I can do. Why don't you just chill out until after we get the new mods in, then we can see if things improve or not. >>246523 IDK? Even if he is those things it's none of your business or mine so long as it doesn't interfere with site work. >>246527 You are pushing the line too much.
>>246533 copying your reply word for word is not "pushing the line." sure it doesn't add anything to the thread, but it's just stupid memeing. I understand that you're getting attacked by some anons and that would put anyone on the defensive, but not everyone is your enemy.
>>246533 >'take your meds' is a common meme Suspiciously 'common' on leftypol threads that are in the process of being derailed. >so I don't think you can claim that everyone posting in quick succession (minutes is not that quick either) is the same person. If only some people had the actual power to determine said poster(s) history or something! >I'm going to ban anyone who is impersonating Space Not once in this thread I did this, but I suspect Space is having a laugh at impersonating himself through intentionally fucked up hashtags, and so on, or posting with 0 history proxies. >I've given you a response which is all I can do. <replying to Space_##mpzY2U Does he have an actual, semi-consistent post history? >IDK? Even if he is those things it's none of your business or mine so long as it doesn't interfere with site work. That is correct, except I'm saying that it is he who like 50% of the time derails our threads and posts incel shit. You say "IDK" -- well you should know! Or somebody from the fucking vol team should! If he ever complained to you about being a miserably incel he should be fucking suspect. >so long as it doesn't interfere with site work >>246052 Except as root he is 1 click away from deleting shit as he wishes.
>>246550 why don't you join the vol team? they're having tryouts. then you can find the truth yourself
>>246550 >Except as root he is 1 click away from deleting shit as he wishes. But so are moderators? Go find the post number of your missing post from the other board and check the logs for it.
>>246506 thx bbz it was mine
>>246550 >If only some people had the actual power to determine said poster(s) history or something! Okay then. >>246080 >>246072 >>246069 Were all made by different IPs, with relatively long post histories (the last one being by Space), but you'll now just say that either I'm lying, or that Space is just that dedicated to either use different IPs to make it convincing or he's just editing the back-end code to cover up. Am I wrong or will you now give up this conspiracy theory? >>246541 This thread is not for spam or shitposting as I've said multiple times. That post was both.
>>246482 >when I post idpol it gets deleted immediately >the bias is so obvious yes.
>>246558 fine, but that clearly wasn't the case for the last several hours. use a little discretion, or just fucking reply to them before jumping right to banz.
>>246496 >I don't see any pattern. So no I don't think it's obvious. I see a pattern, and it's very obvious to me.
>>246553 I applied once and received no reply. This fag applied twice: >>245081, basically same experience. >>246558 >Were all made by different IPs, with relatively long post histories (the last one being by Space), but you'll now just say that either I'm lying No, I believe you. You have no reason to lie in public when other mods can check you. Stop thinking I'm a conspiratard, ffs. >Space is just that dedicated to either use different IPs to make it convincing Well if I were an asshole I'd do just that, tho. Very low % he did, tho. You didn't answer to this part <If he ever complained to you about being a miserably incel he should be fucking suspect. But I understand you want to keep his identity hidden, so there. But still, and this is to all mods, if you know this faggot to be an incel/nihilist/pomo/nolife/etc. faggot, just start looking out our derailments from the perspective that he might be behind it, because it makes fucking sense.
>>245708 >And then suddenly a fucking furious faggot (most likely site owner / programmer) had a (typical) breakdown and started attacking the fucking userbase for asking too much! I remember that too!
>>246072 >We could all have a similar style of writing after spending years in chan culture and /leftypol/ OR maybe >>246057 is right and the freudposter(who impersonated the incelposter for some reason) is actually really the mods way of deflecting blame, controlled opposition like. I'm the incelposter. No one can impersonate me because you're all spooked my liberal feminism. Seriously, not one of you takes male disposability seriously even though every cop and solider is a penis haver. But you'll fall over over yourself to defeat the incel boggieman.
>>246581 >I'm the incelposter no you're not faggot
>>246086 Why is there so many posts like this that sound like it's coming from a mod but with no mod flag. Are you mods trying to sow more discord?
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>>246533 Hey guise its me THE REAL SPACE BTW. Ebin ban for "impersonating a mod", also sorry I took so long coming back. I was out having a smoke. Truly great display of abuse of power to silence people who oppose you, abhorrent furfag.
>>246588 >>246586 >>246581 *ahem* Not trying to be a conspiratard, but it is FUCKING SPACE, our admin. Thank you for listening to this PSA.
>>246211 >only 2 or 3 or so posts per IP. >Again how would you know I’m posting the same “2 or 3” IPs. When the reading comprehension is good. Where in an anon's post does it show you the IP address? For instance show me the IP address this very post originated from.
>>246592 you sound like a conspiratard
>>246596 >>246571 >But still, and this is to all mods, if you know this faggot to be an incel/nihilist/pomo/nolife/etc. faggot, just start looking out our derailments from the perspective that he might be behind it, because it makes fucking sense. <You didn't answer to this part (My last post for today.)
>>246293 People were originally complaining about moderation of the board, then Freudposter said he felt he was being stalked by anons with the help of the mods. A few other anons said they felt they had been stalked as well and then the whole thread went into a spiral of accusations.
>>246303 Yeah, the schizo poster accused everyone that criticized the CCP in the original Corona thread too.
>>246602 ikr #2 >>246597 >(My last post for today.) i lied
>>246380 >the furries aren't important compared to the new revelation that there actually is someone going around derailing threads and they either have a vol protecting them or are themselves a vol. THIS
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>furfag ran off back to riotchat after banning people for pathetic reasoning to justify his bias Classic jannie scum.
>>246386 >Are you the anon autistically obsessed with the idea of vols cybering with each on riotchat? Yes, because they are deliberating on decisions there that effect the board.
>>246574 >>246579 yes that happened, and even if it was space_(I don't think it was) that doesn't prove he's been purposefully making the board worse, or an incel postmodernist or whatever. >>246600 >A few other anons said they felt they had been stalked as well and then the whole thread went into a spiral of accusations. a few other anons, including space_ herself, thats important considering hes admin.
>>246614 speaking of, i haven't posted it yet cause i didn't want to be alarmist but yes, way back months ago, someone DID "stalk" me, they used my post history against me and i thought it was just a vol that got tired of the bants and didn't care much myself. this was many months ago when there was only 200 of us, and it never happened again, so i didn't think much of it. but if they're someone thats trying to actively destroy /leftypol/ well thats messed up
>>246411 >when people are accused of IP switching it isn't because we can see your IPs, it's because it's obvious that a poster with one post in their history that is continuing some autistic argument has been posting previously with a different IP. I can't see anybody's IP nor do I care to. That doesn't follow once again. It's one thing to say you can tell an anon is the same poster by his writing style, it's quite another to know that he's cycling IPs. I've asked several times in the thread, what gives you any information on an anon's IP. It doesn't even make sense to bring up IP cycling if you have n insight into it. Seems like a Freudian slip to me.
>>246617 and yeah i remember that poster having a certain "dark energy" like what space_ mentioned >>246202. they were very spiteful, but most of the staff seem like nice people so i dunno this whole nights been very spooky
>>246618 >That doesn't follow once again. It's one thing to say you can tell an anon is the same poster by his writing style, it's quite another to know that he's cycling IPs. >I've asked several times in the thread, what gives you any information on an anon's IP. >It doesn't even make sense to bring up IP cycling if you have n insight into it. When you look at the post history of someone on a new IP you suspect of ban evading, how many posts do you think are there?
>>246619 ah shit wait fuck. i might have misread "sage" as "space" and mixed up these two fuck fuck so that means. it COULD be space_? fuck it, ive confused myself now and just fuck it.
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>>246622 Bruh moment
>>246624 i can't be bothered to reread the whole thread its late. just assume anyone could be the 'bad poster' and be vigilant
>>246623 >When you look at the post history of someone on a new IP you suspect of ban evading, Only mods should be able to do that. It was anonymous anons correctly stating I was cycling IP's. So either it was a mod without his flag saying it, or that intel was fed to him by a mod. There's no other explanation. I've never seen anyone on 4chan accuse people of "cycling their IPs". The only way to tell if someone might be ban evading is if they're banned. I've never been banned, yet some anon or anons can tell I'm IP cycling. Ban evading =/= IP cycling. You'd only be able to tell if someone is IP cycling on the back end.
>>246633 >Only mods should be able to do that. It was anonymous anons correctly stating I was cycling IP's. Maybe because you obsessively talk about one subject and when banned will immediately engage with the thread you were banned in?
>>246636 >Maybe because you obsessively talk about one subject and when banned will immediately engage with the thread you were banned in? Again, how can you tell that if my posts, or for that matter any posts are coming from different IPs. Again, I've never been banned. So eat shit faggot, something fishy going on here.
>>246633 >I've never been banned, yet some anon or anons can tell I'm IP cycling. Doubt.jpg btw
>>246636 They accuse me of IP cycling before anyone, much less me, has been banned. Try again fuck up.
>>246639 >I've never been banned, yet some anon or anons can tell I'm IP cycling. >Doubt.jpg btw That's right faggot, and it's always the threads that the mods are carebearing.
>>246639 >Several anons complain about being stalked >d-d-d-doubt Okay bootlicker. Also has anyone noticed that when mods delete posts that it deletes the post link as well. In the past when mods deleted posts if left behind the post link so that you could tell that a post had been deleted. Now they disappear completely. Seems like another way for mods to cover their tracks.
>>246642 Why does this user think you're always getting banned then? >>241774 >>246643 Okay samefag.
>>246629 >just assume anyone could be the 'bad poster' Take meds
>>203786 The mods used this 1-2 punch to take down the idpol thread. They let someone bait the word "nigger" in the idpol thread until people started getting mad enough to respond. I mean this guy posted the n-word 100's of times, and no I'm not exaggerating. Of course all this bait caused the idpol thread to stay at the time for about 18 hours. Then Comatoast held another vote to delete it and it passed. So yeah, seems like the mods are just spamming this tactic onto other threads and anons they want gone.
>>246648 You got the gist of it yea. Leave thread unmoderated->becomes cancer->"oh noe better anchor da cancer instead of actual moderation".
>>246645 You aren't real space_ I think >>246628 exonerates him anyway. I did remember a couple months back, coma said there was a vol who shouldn't have had powers that was still using them on /leftypol/ So my final theory is that all these reports of an abusive vol are from that vol, and the situations already been taken care of. Everyone just kind of forgot that happened and it lead to this.
>>246658 No I'm the real space for sure lad.
Did all the mods get so distracted by this thread they didn't notice the child porn thread in the catalogue?
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>>246571 >But I understand you want to keep his identity hidden, so there. But still, and this is to all mods, if you know this faggot to be an incel/nihilist/pomo/nolife/etc. faggot, just start looking out our derailments from the perspective that he might be behind it, because it makes fucking sense. Space did not used to talk to us that much, but he has started to do so now. I haven't seen any evidence that he is one of these things. But okay, I will look out if you want. >>246591 I don't think it's an 'abuse of power', I literally said stop impersonating Space in that very post you replied to. >>246592 You have no evidence of that whatsoever. >>246612 >>246613 I fail to see how the existence of a mod chat is so controversial, there is no authority on Earth that does all their interpersonal communication between the leadership in public. >>246618 If an anon is posting who is clearly not a newfag and is acting like another anon that just stopped posting, and he doesn't have any post history, it stands to reason that he's got a new IP, yes? I fail to see how that's a 'Freudian slip'. >>246619 Thanks for saying that anyways. >>246628 That person (not Space) doesn't even have a mod tag. >>246633 >>246636 basically answers you >>246648 If wanted to delete a thread out of spite, we could just do it, we wouldn't have to give an excuse, you know that right? This thread is a courtesy to you, the users, if we so chose we could not explain anything like on most other imageboards. I don't know if my replies are really helping to defuse this situation so I think I'm going to stop now. I tried.
>>246677 >If an anon is posting who is clearly not a newfag and is acting like another anon that just stopped posting, and he doesn't have any post history, it stands to reason that he's got a new IP, yes? I fail to see how that's a 'Freudian slip'. Because this “ip cycling” accusation isn’t coming from a mod, it’s coming from regular anons. Lending credence to what people have been saying ITT this whole time. There’s mods derailing threads by appearing as regular anons.
>>246677 >>246633 >>246636 basically answers you No it doesn’t. How can an anon tell what any fucking posts source ip is, much less a single person.
>>246677 >That person (not Space) doesn't even have a mod tag. ? m0Wyzz is his trip yes? The other poster is some random guy people are for some reason saying is Space_ despite Space_ responding to the same posts as he is with different answers.
>>246677 >Is I say so, that makes it ok. Autistic furfag has let internet jannie power go to his head. Kill yourself, unironically.
>>246677 >This thread is a courtesy to you, the users, if we so chose we could not explain anything like on most other imageboards. So the mods don’t have any accountability to the users. We’re all here at your pleasure. Do I have that right?
Reminder: Cabello and Antious666 abused their power by deleting posts and banning posters that didn't break the rules but disagreed with their own ideological biases. They also deleted a large number of longstanding anti-abuse bans intended to protect the site from being taken down by abuse. Comatoast refuses to do anything about it, while Cabello and Antious666 are utterly unapologetic from trying to turn this place into another radlib echo chamber like r/socialism.
Space_ being a retard isn't breaking news, but I'd rather not write off the mods as being "trapped" but more like "complicit" in his obsessive shitposting.
>>246677 >If wanted to delete a thread out of spite, we could just do it Here speaks the voice of experience
>>246707 This isn't a big revelation man. Iamgeboards have always been this way
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>>246720 Reminder: I can't do anything with out space giving me the go ahead. This is his website not mine. Space calls the shots. At the end of the day we don't want this place to become a reactionary hugbox either, I hope; I hope we are on the same page with that, aswell. We straddle a line in-between the two letting this place become r/socialism and /pol/ and, me personally, I don't want either scenario to be the case.
>>246764 >My refusal to ensure the people I recruited abide by the rules I set is space_'s fault LOL
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>>246767 >>246767 I didn't recruit them. They came in from 8ch.net Hence why I cannot just remove them with out spaces express permission. Because they are not under my jurisdiction. They are under the jurisdiction of their BO and we are all under the jurisdiction of space_. This is why anons shouldn't speculate about things they, really, have no understanding of.
>>246778 >I didn't recruit them That's why you're in charge of recruiting more radlibs, riiiight...
>>246780 Again, I am not,; We run things under a democratic structure in the absence of their BO who has been MIA for months now. Occasionally popping in and then vanishing once more for months on end. I was voted on the leftypol team, but, I am only under the jurisdiction of a vol under the leftypol staff. All of the recruitment process has been and will be one democratically. At /GET/ chan king did his shit his own way; We are three separate entities it was codified in the constitution that we all wrote and that you haven't bothered to read, I am assuming. Again, you don't know what you are talking about. So stop spreading your paranoia please.
>>246786 So what you're saying is that antious666 and cabello are accountable to no-one and are free to continue their prior actions of fucking up the site and abusing their power as much as they like? Be explict about this comatoast.
>>246793 No, the reprimands they have received have come from democratic consensus. When caballo had his episode over furries everyone disagreed with his action: I suggested a suspension of, at minimum *no less* than a week; I understand that caballo has been accused of doing shit like this for quite some time; in lieu of sufficient evidence for the other charges against him I made this suggestion and it was universally shot down in favor of space's warning. On paper, it being his first offense, after all. All that being said, I have put my neck on the line in the past too lift the bans of people I felt truly were unjustly deserved; Such as the bans of the furry flamers and the dude who got banned from /dead/. I am doing what I can, as I have stated time and time again.
Edited last time by comatoast on 02/03/2020 (Mon) 09:45:50.
tbh it would be fun if you instead of deleting posts moved them to /gulag/ that way, we don't shit up the board and can still critique words instead of burning them.
>>246842 The mod thread should be deleted, recreated and locked and all discussion related to the site should belong in the gulag. imo.
>>246786 >it was codified in the constitution >a website with a constitution Maybe we should impeach Space.
>>246862 Places like this typically have some set of guidelines and rules that the users can point too to be followed. Nothing new here.
>>246869 But is it a set of guidelines and rules that the users can point too to be followed by the people and for the people, though?
>>246848 Yes put it somewhere nobody will ever check to save the poor lurkers fat lazy fingers from pressing the hide thread button.
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Alright. To hopefully create some clarity and stop you guys from inventing weird powerdynamic headcannon, i created this diagram illustrating the current situation on this site. Hopefully this will put your mind to rest, at least somewhat.
>>246877 Yes, ideally. Though there are issues in how exactly bridging the gap between userbase and staff that have been floating around, though, I do not personally find them all the appealing; I always thought we should have a board for users to bring up issues they think needto be brought to a vote. /soviet/ was the original idea, but, that has since gone the way of the dodo. Maybe in the future an idea like that can be visited. >>246881 Maybe people will actually start populating the board if we stop shoving everyone inside a giant stream of conscious dialogue. It also would make moderation monumentally easier as was pointed out about the possible creation of the idpol board; These massive generals become unmanageable. At least currently. Use the site stop trying to treat this like it is 8ch. The game has changed, encase you can't tell.
>>246550 Take your meds. >>246636 Let me give you an example of what's really going on. There is a guy on various imageboards making thread after thread about how this or that actress should be a nudist or is actually a nudist or should be naked in this or that sitcom or is actually naked the whole time. How do I know it's the same guy? Modpowers plus spyware we got on his computer. That's the only way I could possibly have that knowledge. Why am I doing it? We are a dedicated team for the global social-credit rollout that will come next week.
>>246617 I'm not even sure they are necessarily trying to destroy /leftypol/ seems more like 1) they want the board to be a certain way and are samefagging, "stalking" etc to make it that way or 2) they have some fairly deep seated issues and take offence very easily and become obsessed with avenging the perceived slight. I er slightly more with 2) because of the nature of the posts, which do always seem to be extremely angry with genuine hate, beyond chan rough banter. Also the posts are often very confused/petty. The combo making it seem like its less about the issue and hand and more about who is making the post. Mod involvement as I said has merely been my suspicion, I can't really back it up, just some strange things have happened particularly in this thread. These things have also always seemed to happen around the times I have been dishing out my own abuse to mods and in reference to interactions with mods. Now like I said, that may be this vengeful autist simply siding with them out of pure spite I'm not 100% sure about any of this. It is also possible there has been a series of strinerite anarcho-nihilists over the years but like I said also, the post style is always the same, can't even properly put my finger on it, like specific grammatical clerks or whatever, its more the tone and the intensity of palpable real anger
Sage because I know you are already going to be coming in here bitching, if you wanna bitch outside of the application thread then do so, but, for people who DO wanna sign up then don't shit up the thread.
>>246764 >Space calls the shots. Real bad news mate Space is a massive faggot, I remember his technocracy threads Pure concentrated autism He would come to leftypol, get his ass handed to him, crawl back to his bunker circlejerk with his tail between his legs, rince and repeat you never trust Space, ever Space and his circus of freaks were one of the reasons that anons didn't want to migrate here, everyone knew what a faggot space was, nobody wanted him to be an admin
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>>246980 Well as it sits I can't do anything with out him saying so. Space hosts and owns the website. So as it currently sits, we are going to have to proceed with our democratic measures as these seems to be the only path forward. If this becomes subject to change in the future then we will proceed from there, but, right now; Between an inactive Board_Owner and mods feelings a little too ban happy my hands appear to be tied. I'm sorry. There is now discourse in /gulag/ revolving around /soviet/ which I support, but, such a thing would have to be brought to a democratic measure or allowed to be pushed through by space. https://bunkerchan.xyz/gulag/res/4133.html#q4133
the fact that actual discourse over the structural issues of moderation was subverted through this conspiracy bullshit smells of infiltration to me. as for us comrades, I suggest we wait and see how vol recruitment turns out. it won't fix the fundamental issues, but it will introduce our perspectives to the places of power.
>>246980 Space_ != Howard_Scott
>>247028 You ARE howard scott, space don't even try to deny it, you were caught red handed, both posted under the same technocracy flag, in the same threads, at the same time, in the same style, both shilled bunker I remember howard was shilling HARD for migration
>>247028 You ARE howard scott, space don't even try to deny it, you were caught red handed, both posted under the same technocracy flag, in the same threads, at the same time, in the same style, both shilled bunker I remember howard was shilling HARD for migration
Let's maybe move to Mastedon.
>>246999 Comatoast should replace Space_. I like Comatoast, he's alright.
MODS WAKE UP WE'RE GETTING SPAMMED
>>247164 Lmao jesus they're actually clowns
>>247275 well, they're trying to stop it. Thank you, NOX Thank you, comatoast
>>247281 this spam is pretty funny tbh
>>247275 >spam litterally started just 7 minutes ago >on a fucking workday >HURRR WHY ARE THE MODS NOT DOING ANYTHING FUCKING CLOWNS
Great. I got caught up in the bans because of the spam.
can we have a captcha for the spam or is that how we got DoS last time?
test to see if I'm still b&
>>247304 I'm sorry for anyone who got caught up in the bans we are working to undo them.
Sorry if you were banned on accident. Appeal and it will be lifted.
>>247305 >captcha for the love of god no
>>247310 I send an appeal. But because I can't find the ban id in the logs, I don't know if it was accidental, or we were using the same IP.
>>247308 >>247309 >>247310 Thank you for unbanning us, but I'm a little unnerved about the couple non-spam posts getting public ban messages. >>247202 >>247205 The spam was deleted, while these were up. That suggests they weren't just caught in a uniform dragnet. I made a thread on /gulag/ because it's pretty weird. >>>/gulag/4143
>>247317 Dont blame on malice what can be explained by incompetence. Or in this case, the utterly trash moderation tools.
>>247325 That's entirely what I was suggesting. If the tools can permaban people on false positives that's a concern.
>>247317 The moderation tools are really trash so bear that in mind when you see moderation fuck ups.
>>246800 "Reprimands". Get fucked Comatoast, they came straight back of the board and spat in everyone's faces by refusing to apologise for anything and insisting they did nothing wrong in banning anyone they didn't like, and yes, Caballo has been at this for a while. Your "reprimands" have all the value of a chocolate teapot; you have provided a green like for them to carry on as before, driving non-radlib users off the board. If they were truly contrite, they would step down and pass the mantle to anons willing to use the power the community entrusts them with in a mature manner. Note that YOU have the admin flag, they do not. Like it or not, YOU are in a position of leadership and are shirking your responsibility by refusing to act. We have paedospam on the board again, thanks to these morons. Something that was resolved is once again a threat. Behild, users, as Comatoast defends people who are actively ruining your website
>>247412 Space said no.
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>>247309 >>247310 Maybe this is more of a /gulag/ meta-question than a moderation complaint, but being banned here (or looking at hotpocket activity) is really annoying compared to h8chan. On 8chan, when banned, I would be told in the message what post I was banned for even if no human-entered reason was provided. After that, I could look in the log, and hold my cursor over a post, even a deleted one, to see WHAT IT WAS. Here, I'm given a mysterious ban ID# that is completely useless for any purpose other than seeing if my appealed ban was rejected.
>>247426 Can you give me a screen shot of the layout here so I know what it looks like it comparison?
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>>247428 Here 'ya go
>>247436 Oh wow, it looks like that on our end too. It's very hard to work with, lol. The thing is lynxchan is fundamentally different than infinitychan. I think everything should be kusabaX >.>
>>247428 Oh, and if your question was about the appearance of Bunkerchan's ban notification itself, that's just a small JS/CSS dialog box in the middle of the page I'm trying to post from, with the message "you are banned, your ban will expire on XX/XX/XX XX:XX, would you like to appeal?" and a couple of buttons.
Mods, can I ask which mod it was locked the pedobourg thread?
>>247459 Just if it was caballo then it is clear he is simply using his mod position to defend his own sexual degeneracy from criticism
>>203786 Sincere Apologies to anyone who got caught in the banning cross fire. Turned out Cloudflare rotated their IP's so I had to manually update the list. We should be back to normal now.
>>247426 >On 8chan, when banned, I would be told in the message what post I was banned for even if no human-entered reason was provided. We know the issue. Making a better ban system is on the top of the priority list for the webdev team.
>>247459 >>247465 >bumplocks don't appear in the logs Holy shit, the modding and log tools are actual clown car tier.
>>247020 >the fact that actual discourse over the structural issues of moderation was subverted through this conspiracy bullshit smells of infiltration to me. Whatever bitch, me and Freudposter are getting stalked. Any everyone is noticing that mods letting threads get over run with bait, then anchoring because "it's cancer" bullshit.
>>247564 *And everyone
I think a lot of these issues could be solved with simple transparency
>>247615 I think a lot of these issues could be solve with a competent and trustworthy moderation team
>>247615 Since there are no logs of it, seemingly nobody is responsible and the mod team is committed to transparency then I think it must be a software error and the thread should be made again.
>>247708 Easier to trust them if you know what they are doing. Plus doesn’t look like they are going anywhere, so I think added transparency would be a good way to come to a compromise on the problems we have been having. It might mean slightly more work from mods, but they will spend less time dealing with complaints because people can see exactly what is going on.
>>247797 It was me sage. I bumplocked the thread. I know you and me are gonna have contradictory veiws on this subject, but, I want to at least form open and civil dialogues with everyone involved in this. We just don't need all the flaming man. It really is not producing any positive results. I'm trying not to spend to much time moderating site for the next few days, given the recent events. I'd like to take a small break, so, don't expect instantaneous responses, man. Also, it's the Iowa primaries are today in the US so I'd like to fixate in that for today as well. I want to just spend a little time focusing on other stuff. Going outside, you know, things like that, lol.
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>>246891 Thanks for making that
>>246778 Then just get rid of the radlib furry vols
>>247772 Lynxchan doesnt have a bumplock functionality and will never have it in its base form because stephenlynx "doesnt believe in bumplocking". I haphazerdly made a plugin to hijack existing functionality to have this functionality. This is why bumplock does not appear in the logs. It is not an official mod action and when I was botching together the functionality in an attempt to quickly create it, i didnt think to add it to the mod action list. In fact, it never occurred to me to do so until now, mainly because you can just reverse bumplocks and nothing is lost (permanently) by bumplocking something. It will be added at some point but right now an actually usable ban system with history has a higher priority than logging which mods bumplocks a thread.
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>>248845 (assuming this was what you are talking about.) >>247553 Yes the modding and log tools are clown car tier, go beat stephenlynx over the head with it but dont expect him to say anything other than "lol i dont care just git gud". This is someone who thinks type safe languages are for bad programmers and "you should just not make mistakes bro". I will edit my posts to show authenticity if i actually posted it if i forget to post with trip
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Hey mods, I was accidentally banned last night during the spamming, then unbanned. But I didn't notice all my posts (>>247061 >>247047 >>244402 for instance) before the ban were mass deleted. Is there a convenient way to undelete all that?
>>249189 No, I'm sorry. There is not. Nice pic btw
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The neoliberal ""centrist"" alleged tranny thread was anchored because OP is attracting idpol shit, is low effort posting, and is already flinging shit everywhere.
>>253032 Not sure why anyone would want a zero effort troll that insists on replying to everyone around anyway.
>>253484 For the reasons stated in the linked comment.
>>253525 Wouldn't even mind them if they were funny or talented at satire but whether sincere, ironic, meta-ironic, whatever, there's no way to deny the poster is an actual unfunny tard.
>>253724 Why are our trolls so bad and unfunny?
>>253914 Because they are morons.
>>253032 >alleged tranny Considering all of his posts are shitposts he might as well be an alleged everything.
>>254264 Why do you think you have a right to undermine someone's gender identity just because you don't like what they have to say?
>>254322 nobody is doing that, retard.
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>>254322 All identity should be undermined, especially gender.
>>254322 Fuck all identity. I'm tired of being "black" and all the contraversy that entails socially. We should be looking to be liberated from identity, not conserve it. Faggot.
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>>255336 >Fuck all identity. I'm tired of being "black" and all the contraversy that entails socially. We should be looking to be liberated from identity, not conserve it. There's only one way out of this and it's overloading the circuit. If you can meme wearing face-paint into mainstream culture, and get people to paint their face according to their identity, it will go through the cycle of a fad. Also you can probably get some capitalist that produces face-paint to fund you, just don't cut corners get a dermatologist to make sure this doesn't fuck up the skin of people.
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Can i just get some regular user opinions on two things >1) should we have less pinned posts here on /leftypol/ (i personally find it annoying scrolling past them all the time) >2) should we update the reading list/ welcome thread I'm not sure we're getting much value out of telling people who have just landed, presumably demsuccs, to read 'the classics' without any greater context. The replies in threads like these >>224160 are much better than what we have going on right now with the recommended reading. I realize some of this is probably to avoid sectarianism or bias, but i think a better way would be to present all possible biases rather than just these foundational texts we all agree on but that aren't very exciting to newcomers.
>>255599 to give my own opinion on what a beginner reading list should look like: It should be the opposite. Instead of telling people to start with marx and move forward to lenin, mao, etc.. We should have some modern more accesible literature and let people work backwards to the foundational texts. First you find the interpretation of marx you agree with, then you go back and confirm that yes marx agrees with you. The idea of avoiding bias by reading the first texts blind is actually kind of anti-marxist T.B.H.
I just want to point out how funny it is that you guys are all about "quality control" just like the DNC :)
>>255588 i don't understand what this means ?
>>255599 >(i personally find it annoying scrolling past them all the time) Hide them you oaf.
>>255599 >(i personally find it annoying scrolling past them all the time) if you don't want to hide those threads, you can try using the "overboard sfw". The only other board that is sfw is /gulag/ and that gets like 5 posts per day. So, it's basically the leftypol frontpage without pinned threads and with 50 threads instead of 10
>>255770 Why so we can all stay locked up in our fucking nuthouse? Dude we have over 500 users right now and barley anyone is using the other boards. That's nonsense, anon. This place could reach a higher quality if we simply pushed other nonsense too its respective boards.
>>255871 What the hell are you talking about
>>246764 >I can't do anything with out space giving me the go ahead. This is his website not mine. Space calls the shots. ...so to what extent was Freudfag correct?
>>246999 >Space hosts and owns the website. So as it currently sits, we are going to have to proceed with our democratic measures So, basically: total ownership and (ultimately) control vs. "muh democracy" which is (ultimately) meaningless.
>>256057 I've said it before, its a private property relationship.
>>256146 And 8chan was not? Yeah space owns it and I have to listen to what he Ultimately says, but, I am and have been trying to push for more transparency and more upward mobility for the users at the bottom and I will continue to do so. The only other alternative at the moment is going to zeronet like our reactionary counterparts, which, I am not against, but, I don't think we could move the whole site to zeronet unfortunately. There's a lot of technical knowledge needed too even get on zeronet and getting it secure. Also, unless we wanted to end up like 08chan in it's early days and end up with a Cheese pizza board we are going to have to have a way too prevent that anyways, aka, board creation is not going to be a possibility unless we can think of something better. Currently, our democracy in the mod chat is producing ok results. It is allowing me to try and push more democratic measures through. But to call me borg is untrue. I do not own the site and I do not live off of anyones labor here. Say what you want about space, but, me, I do not own anything here. Yes I have a power dynamic, but, I typically try to stay with in the confines of the rules we have set up here. Come on sage.
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>>256146 Somebody should try to put a stop to that sort of thing.
>>256158 >more upward mobility fuck off liberal
>>256160 It's not even a matter, per se, of Capitalism. It's more a matter of the nature of the internet itself. The internet is a reflection of capitalistic hierarchy and was set up as such. The current normie internet we inhabit is not designed for decentralization as when the internet was founded capitalist realism was in full swing.
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>>256164 >Said a word I don't like >Your ideological and economic influences are equivalent to this word.
>>256166 It's per se, not per say.
How much does hosting cost?
It can't be that hard to find some code, get some grorious sugar daddies willing to pay for a lefty board
I know where I can find some hosting, all I'd need is some code and people who know what they are doing a bit better than I do.
Unban TOR posting you terrorists.
>>256449 I was told we have for posting enabled but, myself, last time I tried too for post it was not successful. I know I talked to space about setting up an onion for the bunker, but, I believe there are some issues with cloud flair with that. I have been thinking about us getting on a better less shitty hosting service myself. It's deff on the table.
>>256490 Famlam, where can I find you for talking?
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how come if i click on a post it will scroll up to that post but when i press BACK it does not go back so i have to scroll down ive never been to a chan that had this problem before. also get rid of the stupid list on the left also don't make the default font some fixed-width font... you would think people here actually read and in that case would understand why text that is not code is generally not fixed-width. and then making a person find "YOTSUBA"... wtf? please fix this retardation but the rest of the board is nice
>>256524 lad you can just press the list button on the top right to collapse it
>>256335 for /leftypol/ traffic? i estimate 60-80 buxs a months but its been years since i owned a webzone so
>>256518 You can find me in the irc. Just give me a ping by typing out my name and it will alert me. I wont always be available due too my schedule outside of here, but, I will do my best, as always.
>>256578 Exactly what kind of specs we talking about? I can go around and look for some place
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Retarded ban btw
>>256839 FYI, it helps if you link to the post >>256739
>>256839 The post is tantalizingly close to victimizing straight males, which is pure idpol. Once you start talking about specific skin colors, sexualities, etc in a generalized form, you've gone too far. Even if said things are true or not. 1 hour ban is very mild. It was a very light slap on the wrist. It also works as a warning for all people who respond to that post to keep the responses idpol free.
>>256930 Never seen a post victimizing women cause a ban.
>>256930 >Even if said things are true or not. >1 hour ban is very mild. >It also works as a warning for all people who respond to that post to keep the responses idpol free. Fair enough, I feel like the parent comment was inevitably going to evoke such a response and the response was pretty fair itself. Maybe consider 10-15 minute bans as a warning next time as an hour is a long time in Posting Time during muh happenings, and it gets the message through just the same. At that level it's more about making sure the person banned reads the message and the ban notice dissuades further off topic discussion more than anything else. >>257008 I insult women all the time and get no bans. Cast iron rules can be as bad as totally arbitrary ones.
>>257090 >I insult women all the time and get no bans. He means no one is ever banned for saying women are victims dumb dumb.
am i banned
>>257109 I just assumed they had read something wrong somewhere since they were replying to a guy getting banned for defending straight guys.
>>257109 Actually on a few rereads I see what you mean. Luckily I never advocate for white women and just insult them. I probably get a pass because I don't insult the young ones and just insult the frumpy blue checkmark middle managers that shoved idpol down everyones neck for years.
>>257150 anti-idpol does not mean you can't insult specific "blue checkmarked" white women. feel free to shit on them as much as you want, as long as you don't engage in idpol. If you have questions about whether something is kosher or not, you can ask here.
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Can we get a clown flag? This stupid shit in burgerstan is just too much.
>>258445 Dead normalfag meme go back.
>>256930 >>257008 Why do I know that you will never ban >>259248
>>259281 Report it and mods will probably ban.
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>>259553 hey jannies, we've some spam >>259799
Need some backup on the usa thread, lots of finger pointing over glowie this and that
Broke: Making a mod announcement in the thread saying that you will be banning people doing something Woke: Banning everyone that makes your peepee sore and editing their posts for responding to stuff you've let go for hours Bespoke: Editing a post made in the mod thread to tell OP to fuck off with the idpol shit. It's in the fucking rules.
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I'd just like to thank the moderation team for making those public bans in the USAthread. It points out the offtopic shitposts and gives transparent proof of your good judgement in preventing more.
>>262314 cosigned
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Where is the actual line with idpol posts? It's not like these topics are irrelevant. Even in the case of manufactured issues, the ideology is prevalent (especially in the US) and an obstacle to us. It's useful if not necessary for us to form criticism of those ideas, and when I write up a materialist response to an idpol post context gets lost if the post I'm replying to gets deleted. There's a big difference between posts that distract from discussion and posts provide something to respond to. Some of the best content to come out of this community has been in response to somebody saying dumb bullshit. This method >>262314 of public bans seems superior to simply deleting posts. It's one thing to tell people to knock off bad posting and another to remove the posts in question. We should avoid being an echo chamber and instead properly argue against bullshit.
>>262525 Good point, but it's not easy to exercise patience and discretion when you have other people sperging out at you. This is as much of a problem with the users as the mods.
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>>262525 I let a ton of posts up discussing white supremacy in the US. I was watching the thread. The discussion made a 90º turn to "fuck these types of white people" which is just asking for trouble and derailing the good class-based discussion about white supremacy etc. This already goes too far and is too permissive as per standard procedure for idpol. I allowed it because I was closely monitoring it. Then an anon posted this, >>262489 which is too far gone and is blatantly centering the conversation on idpol. As I said here >>262496, I /am/ genuinely sorry, but those are the rules to keep the conversations from becoming about idpol minutia 100% of the time. We tried to have a place where people could talk about those issues, without the fear of derailing any specific topic, but as you know, it was completely overrun by incel shit 24/7. I'd be willing to try out a procedure to allow idpol threads. Since they need a lot of modding, this would depend on the current online mod's willingness to moderate it. I think it creates a big gap in our discussions and I personally find the topic interesting, but idpol topics are like honey to reactionaries and red-colored fascists. >>262314 >>262505 As for your recommendation on not deleting posts so much, I will do it less aggressively and see how it works out, opting for visual bans instead. Bans take a lot of time and effort to execute, which is why I started opting for deleting idpol post chains to cut the conversation, while still leaving good effort posts up, but I get the frustration of responding to missing comments. Thanks for the feedback.
>>262525 >We should avoid being an echo chamber and instead properly argue against bullshit. This. Bans aren't arguments. Posts like this make us look very bad >>262496
>>262525 It's useful if not necessary for us to form criticism of those ideas, and when I write up a materialist response to an idpol post context gets lost if the post I'm replying to gets deleted. It's useful if not necessary for us to form criticism of those ideas, and when I write up a materialist response to an idpol post context gets lost if the post I'm replying to gets deleted. It's useful if not necessary for us to form criticism of those ideas, and when I write up a materialist response to an idpol post context gets lost if the post I'm replying to gets deleted. As many people as Ronald Reagan says Stalin killed x this This is what I have been saying the whole time. RUTHLESS CRITIQUE OF EVERYTHING. MAN THE FUCK UP AND READ SOME STUPID SHIT YOU DON'T LIKE. IT WON'T HARM YOU. IT WILL MAKE YOU STRONGER
>>262632 No, but we also don't need to have minor variations of the same argument in every tangentially related thread.
>>262642 >MAN THE FUCK UP >>>reddit Outted by your own dog whistle
>>262667 This is why the general was essential, incels be damned
>>262547 >This is as much of a problem with the users as the mods. Bro what if everyone just acted better. Wouldn't have any problems then, would we? I agree completely. It just sounds funny to me. >>262558 First of all, thanks for the work you're doing and transparency. And I appreciate the bother of people arguing about your judgment calls. >The discussion made a 90º turn to "fuck these types of white people" which is just asking for trouble and derailing the good class-based discussion about white supremacy etc. I can why you would delete that, although to be fair certain ideology/behavior is harmful and merits criticism (especially when the basis for it is being a comfy booj pretending to be an activist). But I don't really mind not being able to do Chris Rock's "Black people and niggas" bit for white people. Racially targeted stuff like that is definitely asking for /pol/ or the reverse. >Then an anon posted this, >>262489 which is too far gone and is blatantly centering the conversation on idpol. It is 100% doing that, but it's also a legitimate question. If people can't ask that, we can't articulate a position contrary to it. I have a stock "bring it back to class" response to that question. I agree with the concerns about how to handle idpol topics in general and won't pretend to have The Right Answer. Probably something to work out through experimentation tbh. Specific threads like /racepol/ or /genderpol/ are at least a different experiment to run. On the bright side the vols are keeping modfaggotry to a minimum, so we probably won't have that thing were the same mistakes get made over and over again. Part of my concern with the issues is that liberal idpol especially is an obstacle in so many ways. It can disrupt our activities and it scares people away because they think that's what the left is. >Bans take a lot of time and effort to execute, which is why I started opting for deleting idpol post chains to cut the conversation, while still leaving good effort posts up, but I get the frustration of responding to missing comments. I want to say don't worry about simple bullshit posts like "fuggen feminazis just hate men >:(" but then again I had a response to that about how to prompt someone to see if they're well intentioned or not. I tend to get pretty compulsive about responding to bad arguments though so IDK. On the one hand it's good to have responses to common statements like that, on the other hand a dedicated thread like /usapol/ is not the place for an argument. >>262632 Posts like that only make us look bad if there isn't containment or something. Off-topic posting should be enforceable, especially for a cyclical/containment thread like /usapol/. The one caveat here is the degree to which this idpol shit comes from the US, both in terms of real material problems and wacky ideology. >>262642 I agree in principle but threads getting clogged/derailed is a genuine issue, especially if it's meant to contain something else, especially if it's a cyclical meaning those posts will keep getting bumped and contrarians will keep replying to them. >>262667 Most people on a given site don't make or read that many posts. There's a minority of dedicated posters in any community and we will often get bored of reading the same arguments again and again, but a lot of people will only see that argument once or twice when it happens to come up recently in a thread they reply to. Repetition is good for permeating and reinforcing certain core ideas. And with newbies coming in it's necessary to maintain the community's identity and basic positions (e.g. class before idpol). It's also an argument you have to make repeatedly elsewhere online and IRL, so it's practice for that and theoretically you're spreading the ideas to people on here by doing it too.
>>256158 >And 8chan was not? It was also, the result was, the BO urgeoisie nuked the board. Bad Joo Joo. >Yeah space owns it and I have to listen to what he Ultimately says private property, but more on this later > I am and have been trying to push for more transparency and more upward mobility for the users at the bottom and I will continue to do so. If this is sincere then you are based and I praise you >technical mumbo jumbo fucked if I know, I trust you are all better at making such decisions than most users. >Cheese Pizza board avoid and all costs, you have my blessing for ruthless destruction >board creation is not going to be a possibility unless we can think of something better. board creation should probably be under mod control, but the democratics in place between board and mods should be stronger, then the problem solves itself >Currently, our democracy in the mod chat is producing ok results. It is allowing me to try and push more democratic measures through. Could you describe it to me in expanded terms? How exactly does mod democracy work- perhaps, who are the key players and what do they think. What extra democratic measures are you trying to put in place? >But to call me borg is untrue. i wasn't calling mods borg but the owner of the whole thing borg. You guys are Jannies. Policemen. Engineers. All rolled into one job. You are the real proles in the situation, you work for free. As does I suppose, the userbase, who labour to keep the board alive with posts. Although, nobody is paid a wage and I don't think the owner makes a profit. So in that sense, the site is communism. However, there is a cockshottian critique to be made about the feedback between the worker/consumer/ state (you guys plus owner) which means the outputs are out of whack with demand. The answer is to have more direct democracy. Obviously not fully direct, but more so. In my view. Do not let the board fall to the revision of the soviet union and china stay the course. Now that we have secured our own nation, we must develop socialism. The line between what makes a nation socialist and what makes it a degenerated workers state and then a capitalist state is the direction it is going in. If its liberalising, its not a socialist government, if it is nationalising and socialising, it is. You must be pushing in the right direction, where you, the mod class, the most advanced of the proletariat, are powerful and wise enough that Space just lets you do whatever, and through you we the lowly poster/labourer/consumer,with our allegiance, think of us like the rural proletariat, the proletariat of the board can have true control over the means of post production think of it Comatoast comrade. think of it
>>262667 This is also true, but we shouldn't nuke entire conversations entirely. >>262689 who am I whistling to here? >>262697 this
>>262719 It does sound kinda funny, I should really focus on being more focused on results instead of vague diagnoses >final paragraph Well put, I hadn't thought of it that way
>>256158 God damn it I don't want to fly to England just to seize the means of posting from space. I've posted about it before relating to other topics, but what about direct democracy using literally github? If there's questions of procedure people can rewrite and refine things, argue about what's best in /gulag/, and have some kind of voting mechanism for site/board rules? >>262689 Man up is gender ideology, but how is it a dogwhistle? >>262697 I agree the incel posting added nothing. They weren't interested in discussion. They just wanted to vent. Incels as a topic is actually interesting but you can't talk about the conditions behind them without them showing up and sperging out. Total ban on the topic is probably prerequisite to any functional idpol general or genderpol thread.
>>262779 If we should do an idpol general again, we should ban all incels.
>>262779 >only the idpol I want
>>262788 We should ban all feminists.
>>262775 Diagnoses are fine. So is vague criticism. You never know what you might say that might spark someone to develop the idea more. Case in point: >Well put, I hadn't thought of it that way Thanks, as goofy as it is, I think "internet anthropology" or whatever you'd call it is serious business. Goes back to wondering why different sites like 4chins/reddit work so differently at a cultural level. >>262790 Per the post you're replying to incels warrant discussion, but the incels themselves ruin it.
>>262792 We could do that too. Ban all feminist and all idpol posting.
>>262799 *incel
>>262793 >talk about slavery but don't allow slaves
>>262820 You are really really helping my case not yours. You do realize it's possible to talk about incels without revealing you are one? Discuss the topic instead of screeching and derailing things.
>>262835 Doesn't stop you from accusing others of being one. The worst are those "former" types who should be banned on the spot.
>>262835 Anon don't reply to him, I know It's tempting but don't.
>>262855 I know, I just thought that point should be made.
>>262792 >>262799 >ban all feminists >be me bunkerchan /leftypol/ 2022 >post "women hold up half the sky" >banned >reason >idpol >tfw can't post lenin on /leftypol/ >tfw Rosa is banned by mods >can still post about quasi socialist middle eastern leaders baathists >tfw socdems killed Rosa again
>>262863 >feminism is when you're a woman or pro-woman Feminism is when you think this is true.
>>262867 what the fuck is feminism if it isn't being pro woman?
>>262885 Feminism is when you oppres incels and the more incels you oppress the feminister it gets.
>>262888 this is just bait at this point I can go no further get help
>>262896 That's a different poster who I guess assumed I'm the incel. This is getting long-winded and warrants a separate discussion, which is why I tried to be concise here >>262867 tl;dr feminism doesn't have a monopoly on emancipatory gender politics, and the assertion that it does is a barrier to forming the best gender liberation politics we could have That said it's definitely an idpol topic and I don't see how getting into detail here and now contributes to the question of how to deal with idpol topics.
>>262977 all idpol to the gulag and all talk of inceldom and transexualism in their own special, separate gulags. Gulags to be bumplocked and cycled back to the top only to be bumplocked again, and should be cyclical. Basically, create idpol hamster wheels for the truly toxic conversations
>>263012 Lol no one is going to post in a thread that is purposely being censored. I know I wouldn't. Does anyone post in threads that are anchored. Very rarely.
May I know why we have a portrait of Adolf Hitler staring at the viewer on the first page with a suspiciously conspicuous topic?
ty based mods
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>>262735 >Could you describe it to me in expanded terms? How exactly does mod democracy work- perhaps, who are the key players and what do they think. What extra democratic measures are you trying to put in place? Basically, we try and gauge user opinion and see what ideas are floating around in the general zeitgeist at the time; or we have ideas of our own. We bring them too a channel in the chat and make a proposal. That proposal needs too get 2 thumbs up reactions to be considered legitimate. If your proposal can get two thumbs up it becomes a vote. Non critical matters, matters such as whether or not a thread should be bumplocked, whether or not a users ban should be lifted or whether some one actually deserves a ban, etc etc etc have a minimum of 42 hours to be voted on. If it is a critical matter, such as the creation of a new board, the appointment of a new staff member, etc etc etc then the vote is considered a critical matter and requires 72 hours minimum to be voted on. Minor votes can be fast tracked (aka resolved in under 24 hours with if a fast track proposal is reacted positively with a thumbs up by any member of the staff with in 7 or so hours.), critical votes cannot. In the case of the votes both require a clear majority aka ties end in a loss. > board creation should probably be under mod control, but the democratics in place between board and mods should be stronger, then the problem solves itself Personally I think the other mods can be somewhat incredulous to the creation of new boards, though, from what I can tell so far boards other than leftypol receive little too no traffic, so, I can see their points too. Hobby has been growing steadily, though. Either way I agree. >Borg I wouldn't go as far as too call the site communism. It is an accurate observation to point out the private nature of the site, but, Like I said previously. the nature of the internet was crafted around capitalist ideology. The internet is run hierarchically reflecting that. with people "owning" web-spaces and domains and so on and so on; I just think it is unfair to call people borg. Everyone here is working class. We sell our labor for a wage to survive to those who own capital. And me having this position shouldn't be hand waved or pushed aside. I have the power to dictate who does and who does not get to post on the board and what does and does not get to be posted on the board. I know the position I hold and it is a position of power. You are right to criticize it. That being said I always try and act in the interests or the board and in the interests of the users to the best of my ability and to the best that I see fit and understand them. That is my main goal here.
>>262779 >Total ban on the topic is probably prerequisite to any functional idpol general or genderpol thread. and so the masks slips I just KNEW that whining idpolfags just wanted their idpol circlejerk for themselves when they were running with their idpol shitting all the board with their whining posts about how incels ruined their circlejerk I FUCKING KNEW IT >b-but muh particular kind of idpol i-is important, we need to discuss it FUCK OFFF AND DIE
>>265072 There is a spectre haunting leftypol... the spectre of guys who don't fuck!
>>265106 >>265094 >>265072 Imagine caring this much about and incels lol. You fight those dangerous ess jay double Jews my propertied comrade, I’ve got to go gather some intel on the fash in my neighborhood.>>265072
>>265106 But let’s debate Nazis. We can turn them!
>>265491 I'm sorry to say it but even the nazis are less annoying and well mannered than the incels.
>>265514 never bothered with the idpol thread, but was it really all that bad?
>>266004 yeesh, that's difficult to imagine. even most /r9k/bots aren't worse than nazis.
>>266013 The idpol thread was /r9k/bots on steroids. I'm thankful that it is gone.
>>265514 >leftypol likes Nazis better than incels Lol, more of your fash sympathies coming out.
>>265961 Cancercels and transphobes made it into a shit hole.
>>266247 It's not our fault incels are more insufferable than people who believe a small minority of semites control the planet
stop baiting the incels
testan
Lmao, what's wrong with that slavery-loving brainlet?
leftypol hot pockets: >trans rights are human rights also leftypol hot pockets: >human rights are bourgeous contruct and a spook Really activates my synapses
>>267912 >trans people are a bourgeois construct and a spook
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Just wanted to remind the new janny that ban length is case sensitive. So if you ban someone for 5d you ban them for 5 days, but if you ban them for 5D you ban them permanently
>>268115 tell stephen lynx ([email protected]) to always first toLowerCase() inputs like this in lynxchan. something like this should never be case sensitive https://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_tolowercase.asp
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>>268115 Some of your fellow mods may have pointed this out already but considering that you just went through the trouble to fill in a captia to ban someone for 1 minute, I feel like I have to say that this exists. https://bunkerchan.xyz/.static/pages/moderation.html#banSection
>>268115 I hadn't figured out for how long to ban, yet. Then there's this gem that came next: >>268564 >1m is a minute >1M is a month Magnets, how do they work... guilty as charged. I thought I was banning them for a month. Thanks for the feedback
>>268743 I think M doesnt work. Not sure tough.
>>268770 I have a feeling I'll figure it out on the go sooner than you think, who knows.
>>268770 Why do you think that it doesn't work?
>>268786 1m = 1 month. Weeks don't work. You need to do 7d for a week. Etc
>>268843 1m = 1 minute 1M = 1 month
>>268786 I just use days, it's simpler. 7d = 1 week, 90d = 3 months, 600d = 2 years, etc
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How and why is this bannable? (no reason was provided for the ban)
>>269602 Actually, it got a 10 minute ban so the poster would chill a bit, it got a bit idpol in the previous posts. As a previous poster said, I forgot to put the reason.
>>269617 As I said in the appeal, I actually appreciate the 10 min. span of the ban, yet, you didn't answer my question: what le reason is for le ban, you fag? Apart from you being assblasted from someone defending Old BO, that is. Talk about sectarianism, LOL!
>>269627 >le Don't reddit me. >>269617 >it got a bit idpol in the previous posts >a bit idpol >idpol This post in particular: >>269494
>>269627 >>269617 also >it got a bit idpol Pointing out the difference between literal Empire-brainwashed posters and "the rest of the world" posters is far away from idpol. see attachments: >>269456 >>269434 Burgers are literally brainwashed by their "education" system and this F A C T should be non-controversial among communists. Pointing out that burgers are systematically conditioned to hold certain beliefs is neither idpol, nor a conspiracy theory. It's a fucking fact. >>269635 >Don't reddit me. upvoted Otherwise: see above. Differentiating between posters based on their specific (regional, political, etc.) ideological brainwashing and """""educational""""" background is N O T idpol. It be fact, asshole.
>>269640 Yes, you got it right, or else you'd have a full day of ban. But you got a wee bit carried away. And I won't shy away from being an asshole, I wear it as a badge.
>>269617 (But both you and I know that your stretching of the definition/scope of "idpol" to the point where it's basically meaningless just so you could include my posts under that aegis had nothing to do with the issues of idpol as such. You were asshurt that there are posters here who still defend Old Bo.* BTW, I was one of the, if not the, poster(s) to spread anti-idpol sentiments on old-8ch/leftypol.) This won't change, mind you. this place turned into shit after he left.*
>>269649 I prefer vols (or any posters for that matter) being assholes. It's much more straightforward this way. (See: Bakunin, Marx, Engels, Lenin -- basically, all of 'em lovable assholes.) So let's get it straight: 1) you either don't know what idpol is, or, 2) you stretch its meaning to include whatever you don't like. Either way, fuck you, cunt. Being anti-idpol is absolutely crucial for the re-emerging communist movement, and your (probably opportunistic) use of it is not just disgusting (on a personal level) but against our collective aims.
>>269656 I couldn't care less about old BO quite frankly, nor you. These personal shenanigans you are trying to pull to lick your wounds ain't my problem. Check a shrink if you have daddy issues.
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>>269663 >collective aims >my face Okay, am more convinced now of the last part of the post I just wrote, see a shrink.
Mind you, I don't believe we oughta carry on a conversation here, its incredibly awkward.
>>269667 >to lick your wounds What wounds, you absolute faggot? From my POV this whole site suffers from the current status quo. It's not personal for me, the current state of the board and the inevitable re-staging of the same. fucking. events. that happened under Old BO post-last-burger-election. I was already screaming about this when we transitioned to this site. I already told you fags that we will replay the same shit again: dilution by a surge of burger posters, communist (anarcho- or Marxist) poster% going down, Empire-propaganda being chucked down our throats. I already said this, and I will restate the same fucking conclusion: either you and your team will deal with this or we will become a non-communist board. Old-BO countered that tendency. That is all. >>269671 I am a shrink. >>269675 I agree. It is a shame that you have an ideological gown over your eyes, tho. /this fag: off
>>269680 Alas, it is beyond my power to make that decision alone.
>>269688 But comrade, we as communists know that collective power ultimately stems from the individual embedded in said collective. If we are to practice in "organic" or "democratic" centralism, cowards have no place in the collective. Either you disagree with the rest and speak up exactly because you detect that the truth in general or the truth-process in particular is being suppressed, or the whole form of our collective engagement loses meaning.
>>269701 Pure idealism. You want to keep this conversation, get on the IRC channel. Or else am going to cease replying, as interesting the conversation it might be, I am unwilling to betray the board structure for empty words.
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>>269715 >Pure idealism >get on the IRC channel Let's just stop okay?
>>269680 >What wounds, you absolute faggot? From my POV this whole site suffers from the current status quo. Gonna be honest this doesn't make any sense. What makes you say this? Because people are rooting for Bernie sanders in the usapol thread?
>>269835 in the /usapol/ thread he claims that an influx of burger socdems are invading the board on account of the election, and that they're going to permanently ruin by diluting the presence of communists
>>269838 Yeah that's what I thought. Pure ideology.
>>269663 >Being anti-idpol is absolutely crucial for the re-emerging communist movement, LMAO white cope
idpol: 1h
>>269848 the phrasing or the general sentiment?
>>269903 It didn't focus on class relations between people; >muh white ppl Is idpol.
>>269848 >I... must... be... RACIST!!!
>>270442 Anon, this is the moderation thread
May I ask for the reevaluation of this two day ban? >>270020 Considering that: It was in this thread >>269215 , so it couldn't have ruined any discussion. For the four hours between that post and the ban, that poster didn't cause for a shitstorm in that thread. And the extension of it's IDpol is referring to "right-wing woman" as "right-wing whores". Saying that they should be raped is somewhat edgy, but I don't think that should be counted as IDpol. I don't think it was deserved
>>270263 >>269903 It hurt white people’s feelings, so therefore it’s Idpol. But saying “nigger” isn’t Idpol, because that doesn’t hurt white people’s feelings. I’m going to enjoy watching /leftypol/ collapse into another reactionary echo chamber again.
>>270536 Lifted >>270561 If your analysis is going to consist of "muh white pepol" expect it to be considered idpol just like any storm fags analysis amounting to "muh baboons" is banned. Saying nigger haphazardly is not the same thing as saying nigger in a way that pushes a social narrative that black people are what is foundationally wrong with society.
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>>269701 based post
>>269680 >>269663 >>269656 also based posts, based poster
Mods should understand optics and not ban someone for saying they'd fuck a girl. It makes us look like tumblrites. Stop getting mods from chapo, you fucking retards.
Is it me or there are a lot of newfags coming into the board since the start of the year? I feel like board quality has declined compared to some months ago
>>270847 heightening tensions with Iran and the election have attracted burgers en masse
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>>270847 >>270856 We didn't have that many users and our pph wasn't that high during the Iran thing. If I had to guess it's mostly do to the US elections.
>>270847 >I feel like board quality has declined compared to some months ago <source: your pussy ass feelings
>>270847 Yeah and I remarked too an increase in the use of the term "tankie" a la Vaush to mean "people I disagree with" or even "anyone who is to the left of social democracy".
>>271170 >/leftypol/ was always shit get out of here newfag, this might be true of 4/b/ (and even that statement is debatable, /b/ used to be a lot better than it is now) but it is not for this board. There was a much higher level of discussion a year ago here.
>>271236 >n-n-newfag ;_;
>>271274 >How dare you call out my revisionism, /leftypol/ was always populated by a majority of retards! If you are not a newfag, then what is your game here?
>>271286 do you really think the majority of residents are retards?
>>271316 No, I'm exaggerating. There is however an inverse relationship between speed and quality which has held true for every chan that ever existed, to my knowledge. It seems to be an iron law of imageboards.
>>271343 that makes logical sense. I still seen plenty of slow, quality threads popping up in the catalogue though.
>>271286 >Everyone that calls me a Chicken Little for crying about the board quality at every turn is a revisionist. I'm here to read the 10% of posters that are whiny bitches like you and pathetically want to turn a Anime pillow fucking enthusiast board into a social clique.
>>271343 >There is however an inverse relationship between speed and quality which has held true for every chan that ever existed, to my knowledge. It seems to be an iron law of imageboards. Again more cope.
>>271367 *I'm here to read the 10% of posters that aren't whiny bitches
>>271369 I think it really depends on the moderation and board organization
>>271369 No this is pretty much fact. Only a newfag would say otherwise.
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>>271367 >move along, everything is fine, nothing to see here citizen Hmm, it really makes you think, doesn't it? Also what's up with that strawman I want nothing of the sort.
>>271385 >things that are popular are actually shit Lol, cope harder
>>271385 >muh hugbox is being destroyed by normies. Harden the fuck up faggot.
When will this chapo-tier thread get purged? >>269603 I know space and most jannies are succdems, but I though we were past "containment" threads for liberals.
>>272001 >let's just refuse to engage with reality, surely that will lead to socialism
>>272029 >The bourgeois spectacle of democracy is reality
>>272085 not that anon, but it's a good way to radicalize demsuccs. we can at least try.
>>272138 The point is, even if sucdems are elected, they won't ever achieve anything.
>>272210 couldn't agree more, and we stand to gain new comrades if we guide demsuccs through that disappointment
>>272351 History keeps on repeating itself. The point, however, is to change it.
>>272463 you disagree that we could stand to grow in number then? or do you believe that these people aren't worth it?
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>>272923 You don't "grow" by disapointing, but by educating, and the first step is to disengage from the slippery slope of ideological revisionism.
What's with the uptick in trolling and racist threads recently? Is that just a normal occurrence or are discord /pol/fags just giving us free advertisement?
>>273963 Legit, the pol fags are just upset they weren't prepared like we are. Also, this is a political tense climate during a presidential primary.
>>248845 I added an offense record history to 2.4 tho.
why did you delete my Chomsky thread?
>>274062 Reactionary Cloaking.
>>274070 How is it reactionary to call out a Jewish supremacist who pretends to be an anarchist civil rights activist? How is that reactionary? Please point-for-point explain this to me using the definition of reactionary.
Ban evasion.
>>274071 I dunno when you called him a Zionist kike. You're supposed to be banned anyways, so, I don't know why you are outing yourself.
>>274071 Your thread wasn't bad, but you could've conveyed the same message without the nazi shit.
>>274071 I feel like I have to point this out. If you look at the logs you can see that that poster initially got banned for 1 minute. https://bunkerchan.xyz/.global/logs/leftypol/2020-02-12.html So technically, he wasn't ban evading. I don't think this deserves a perma ban.
>>274082 He was actually supposed to be banned for 1 month because of the nature of his post. Obviously he isn't going to be permabanned because bans are nothing more than fanfair these days, but, he effectively has made it so his topic will not be able to be posted for at least a month.

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