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/brg/ - Brazil General Comrade 08/09/2019 (Fri) 01:03:24 No. 18835
You know what, fuck it, I'm gonna ask it.

Anyone knows about BR internet drug communities? Not necessarily places where they're sold or even where you can discuss such sources. Ones which forbids these topics would be fine. There are a million of them for gringos, but I only know about Growroom, which is for dudeweedlmao, and Teonanacatl, which does give some space to other entheogens but it's still limited. I couldn't find more using Google, but then again, it doesn't index Discord, IRC, deep web and a million other places which might have such communities.

inb4 hoje não ABIN
>>99161
Nem vi que tentaram fio latino.

Você começa sozinho ou chamamos os argentinos antes?

>Parece que depois do Equador, o Chile também está um caos.
Não sabia sobre o Chile, legal que o Piñera suando. Mas sobre Equador, já estava acompanhando e torcendo contra Lenin, O Impostor. Estava tentando imitar a LJ sem vergonha, mal entrou no palácio presidencial e já tentou prender o antecessor e ex-camarada. Ver ele se ferrar é mais delicioso que sopa de macaco.

Aliás, note o quão fugaz está sendo a "dominação" direitista. Em um único dia, semanas atrás, em que Salvini foi contra-corneado e Boris fez a cagada histórica de tentar um semi-golpe, e falar em onda mundial direitista já nem faz sentido. O que ocorre é, creio eu, apenas um sintoma mórbido deste início da degeneração do capitalismo que discutimos por aqui. Admito que tal evento tem um viés reaça, mas isso não é (necessariamente) porque o fascismo cresce, mas porque as feições deste, sendo a completa derrocada da civilização, podem ser avistadas em qualquer ocasião moderna em que ela esteja em decadência.
>>99782
Sei lá, essa thread é cíclica então você vai ter que falar com os mods primeiro, senão todo mundo vai continuar postando aqui.

>Mas sobre Equador, já estava acompanhando e torcendo contra Lenin, O Impostor.
E muita gente da esquerda daqui apoiou o mesmo na eleição
passada.

>Aliás, note o quão fugaz está sendo a "dominação" direitista. Em um único dia, semanas atrás, em que Salvini foi contra-corneado e Boris fez a cagada histórica de tentar um semi-golpe, e falar em onda mundial direitista já nem faz sentido.

Difícil afirmar isso, já que essas derrotas não se deram pelo voto mas por manobras políticas, só vamos poder afirmar que a onda direitista acabou quando começarem as derrotas nas urnas.
Also, parece que o Brasil é o único na América latina a ter uma direita autoritária, Moreno, Macri e Piñera são como os nossos velhos tucanos.
>>99767

Download tor and go to the torum forum.
>>100837
>E muita gente da esquerda daqui apoiou o mesmo na eleição passada.
Não posso culpá-los. Ele foi vice-presidente do Rafael Correa, e a eleição foi apertada entre ele e um Banqueiro Neoliberal modelo 2017. Foi uma traição histórica. Sem exagero, foi como se Dilma tivesse deflagrado uma LJ pra cima do Lula em 2011.

https://jacobinmag.com/2019/03/lenin-moreno-rafael-correa-ecuador

>Difícil afirmar isso, já que essas derrotas não se deram pelo voto mas por manobras políticas, só vamos poder afirmar que a onda direitista acabou quando começarem as derrotas nas urnas.
Se bem que uma vitória da direita sempre é manobra política, pois ela sempre precisa enganar o povo, não? Não vejo problema em tirá-la com manobra, visto que ela é completamente ilegítima.

>Also, parece que o Brasil é o único na América latina a ter uma direita autoritária, Moreno, Macri e Piñera são como os nossos velhos tucanos.
Pois é, a nossa conseguiu ser a pior do mundo, mesmo.
>>101714
>Se bem que uma vitória da direita sempre é manobra política, pois ela sempre precisa enganar o povo, não? Não vejo problema em tirá-la com manobra, visto que ela é completamente ilegítima.
Sim, também não vejo problema, mas não se pode dizer que a onda conservadora acabou ou mesmo que ela nunca existiu enquanto a direita continuar indo bem nas urnas, vide a última eleição na Áustria.

>Pois é, a nossa conseguiu ser a pior do mundo, mesmo.
Por isso eu acho que a situação aqui, da Europa, da India e do EUA é diferente da do Chile e do Equador.
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>>101794
>Sim, também não vejo problema, mas não se pode dizer que a onda conservadora acabou ou mesmo que ela nunca existiu enquanto a direita continuar indo bem nas urnas, vide a última eleição na Áustria.
Captei vossa mensagem. Estou desdenhando da onda direitista por ser um fenômeno, creio eu, breve e patológico, mas você está certo quando se preocupa com o estrago que essa desgraça cria(rá), independentemente da natureza dela.

>Por isso eu acho que a situação aqui, da Europa, da India e do EUA é diferente da do Chile e do Equador.
Concordo quase integralmente. A Europa, eu colocaria junto com Chile e Equador, porque a crise de refugiados cria um mínimo de, digamos, substrato pra direita crescer. É uma situação relativamente normal. Chile e Equador ainda estão também mais ou menos normais, porque ainda estão no velho estilo latino de eleger um reaça filho da puta e passar os próximos 4 anos protestando sem parar. É o velho chove-e-não-molha. Mas nós, EUA e Índia, realmente, estamos à parte. Somos o leprosário deste mais novo sintoma mórbido.
>>101844
Tem razão, mas a Índia vive em uma eterna ameaça de guerra nuclear com o Paquistão, fora questões étnicas e religiosas.
Also, não dá pra falar muito da política nacional no momento, de quinze em quinze minutos sai noticia nova sobre a crise no PSL, acredito que o melhor a se fazer é simplesmente esperar pra ver no que vai dar.
>>99161
>Parece que depois do Equador, o Chile também está um caos.
Agora é a Bolívia. Evo Morales foi reeleito e já tá um quebra pau lá.
>>102195
O que ele fez pra merecer o quebra pau?
>>102197
Basicamente, o tribunal lá atualizou a contagem de votos e considerou o Morales reeleito no primeiro turno.
>>102199 aqui.
Ocorreu uma recontagem, deu Morales, o adversário não reconheceu, uma galera foi para as ruas, incendiaram um prédio de um tribunal, agora estão quebrando o lugar onde fica um comitê eleitoral do partido do Morales.

Informação para nós, brasileiros: Deus vultinho e o itamaraty já mostraram que estão ao lado do opositor (enquanto dizem que a quebradeira no resto da america latina é por conta do FORO DE SÃO PAULO BUUHH!)
>>102197
>>102199
>>102208
Alguém sabe o que as pesquisas diziam sobre um possível segundo turno? Moralez garantido ou não? Eu nunca consigo encontrar pesquisas eleitorais em idiomas além de português e inglês.

De qualquer forma, podemos ter certeza absoluta que Atlas Network & Friends estão investindo pesado nesse quebra-quebra. É capaz do opositor ter ordens de não reconhecer nenhum resultado desfavorável só pra volatilizar a situação. Tudo que eles querem é desculpa pra se fazer de coitadinhos, como a direita sempre fez. Se Evo mandar seus serviços de inteligência pra cima da média-liderança da oposição, ele faz a rapa. Essa é a tática fundamental da contra-insurgência israelense, e funciona bem. Imagina ter fodido os Kataguiris da vida antes de ficarem famosos, o quanto sofrimento que teria sido evitado.
>>102213
https://twitter.com/olatinoscopio/status/1186470098686631936
Acompanhem o @olatinoscopio, fica mais fácil de acompanhar.
Parece que só nós vamos ficar de fora dessa vez, pelo menos eu não vejo acontecendo aqui e agora. Aliás, fiquei com uma impressão de que nós demos o "azar" de ter um governo de "esquerda" na época que rolaram os protestos de 2013, talvez com um governo de direita a coisa poderia ter sido diferente.
Mas uma coisa, como o pessoal da esquerda brasileira vai reagir nesse caso? Evo, o mesmo que é de "esquerda", que está ao que parece sofrendo o mesmo processo que a Dilma sofreu e o mesmo que deportou Battisti, é traidor ou vitima?
E não se esqueçam que próximo domingo ainda teremos eleições na Argentina e no Uruguai.
>>102407
Epic cringe
>>102251
Todo poder a Evo, sem a menor dúvida. Convenhamos, Battisti é peixe miúdo e, apesar de seu julgamento ter sido uma farsa, ele muito provavelmente é culpado. E Evo tem tudo pra ser uma figura regional forte quando a direita trissômica desandar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLdV_EYtK5I

Eduardo Bolsonaro running faster than sonic
A reforma da previdência passou, aliás a votação passou de bem discreta na mídia seria a briga no PSL uma cortina de fumaça? até agora nenhuma central sindical se pronunciou, eles estão muito mais preocupados com a reforma sindical, já que com ela vem a possibilidade de conseguirem de volta a contribuição obrigatória e conservarem a unicidade.
Aliás, já estão preparando outra reforma:
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2019/10/cni-diz-que-abertura-comercial-abrupta-reduziria-pib-em-10-setores-industriais.shtml

>>102407
Fora que se a Kirscher for eleita, existe a possibilidade que o Brasil saia do Mercosul, ou seja, é melhor preparar a pipoca.

>>102467
?

>>102705
>ele muito provavelmente é culpado
Culpado do quê? Ele foi um guerrilheiro e fez o que se esperava de um.

Also, sinceramente é um papel vergonhoso a expressão mulher de malandro é a primeira que vem na minha cabeça, fora que com isso eu não consigo parar de pensar se o único parametro que a esquerda tem pra qualificar uma manifestação como legitima é se o governo é ou não um dos "nossos", ou seja, se o cara falar bem dos outros governo de "esquerda" e vestir a camisa com a cara do chê ele pode acabar com direitos, reprimir os trabalhadores, aumentar o custo de vida e por ai vai, perpertuando a nossa esquerda conservadora, no sentido literal da palavra, uma esquerda que conserva, que quer deixar as coisas como está ou mesmo voltar ao que era antes o que dá mais lenha para esse discurso ridiculo de "direita anti-estabishment" e joga na mão dessa própria direita o monopolio da critica, graças a isso estamos fadados a viver da sombra da onda rosa e das lutas passadas aliás, quando ela acabar até o todo poderoso PT vai ter que rebolar pra passar pela cláusula de barreira, mesmo com as fusões que provavelmente virão, até porque qualquer movimento que surja nesse meio tempo, por mais de esquerda que as suas pautas sejam e que um governo de direita esteja no poder, vai acabar adotando uma narrativa de direita, assim como já aconteceu com a greve dos caminhoneiros.
Tá engraçado pra caralho o contorcionismo argumentativo dos liberais que pintavam o Chile como um paraíso.
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Be sincere, do you think he will make it to the end of his mandate?
>>103834
Yeah, Brazil sucks
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>>103834
HELL YEA ACCELERATIONIST GANG LETS f&CKING GOOOOOOOOOOO
>>103834
If we dont have a military coup, yes, he could even be relected in 2022.
So I hear Lula is free.
>>104663
Not really, he can go for house arrest, thats it, and he still have his political rights suspended until 2035.
A nova ladainha de liberal é dizer que o que está acontecendo no Chile é por conta da expectativa que a população tinha sobre o crescimento econômico. É muita cara de pau.
>>107319
Como assim? Eles acham que Chile tá protestando por causa da falta de capitalismo?
>>107396
Eu acho que nem os liberais sabem o que estão querendo fazer utilizando esse argumento.

https://twitter.com/demori/status/1188097789168934913
Cheque algumas das respostas dessa thread no twitter, dá pra ver o nível da atual argumentação de quem pintava o chile como paraíso neoliberal.

Ou leia essa outra thread aqui, onde o pessoal está trucidando o neoliberal
https://twitter.com/GabrielNemer_T/status/1188145791589896192
E lá vamos nós:
https://politica.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,bolsonaro-diz-que-pensa-em-criar-nova-legenda-nome-seria-partido-da-defesa-nacional,70003066493

Also, vamos ver se esse covarde vai dar pra trás novamente ou se realmente vai sair do Mercosul.
Also, protesto da CUT dia 30:
https://www.cut.org.br/noticias/cut-convoca-ato-no-dia-30-em-brasilia-por-soberania-direitos-e-empregos-2db5
Eles deveriam ter feito isso no mesmo dia da votação da reforma do senado e não deveria ser protesto, deveria ser greve.
Caralho, camaradas
>>110122
Você sabe que isso não vai dá em nada, o projeto neoliberal de destruição ainda não se concretizou por completo e ele não terá nenhuma chance de ser derrubado até terminar o serviço. Isso é uma coisa que pode está correta, mesmo sendo simplista, mas eu queria que um camarada fizesse uma análise melhor desse momento. Essa eu foi a que eu inventei para manter minha sanidade nesses tempos sombrios.
>>110128
Tem que dar em alguma coisa, cara. Tinha que ter dado há um bom tempo já. Não dá pra ficar nesse negacionismo, nessa falta de imaginação combativa, que leva a um estado de paralisia e uma falta de reação às merdas que estão acontecendo. Não é possível que não dê.
Quanta evidência existe que o Bolovo está envolvido na morte de marielle?
Eu acho que vamos descobrir na prática quais as chances do Bozo dar um golpe e o quão bem sucedido o mesmo seria.

>>110128
O problema é que esse projeto pode se arrastar até o final do mandato.

>>110159
Tá, mas como? Não existe um movimento forte o suficiente pra parar o bozo, os trabalhadores estão mais desorganizados do que nunca e a falsa consciência reina, os sindicatos são dirigidos por um bando de covardes sem poder real algum, os estudantes e os movimentos sociais em geral não tem poder algum contra o governo, mesmo os partidos e as instituições estão entorpecidas, só o celso de mello falou sobre as insinuações autoritárias do Boçassauro.
Talvez essas denúncias podem trazer um fôlego a oposição, mas eu sou pessimista em relação a isso, pra mim a situação caminha pela espera de um desgaste natural do governo bozo com o passar do tempo.

>>110222
Segundo o porteiro, o cara que é acusado de ser o motorista do assassino, que mora no mesmo condomínio, foi a casa do Bozo e alguém que se identificou como "seu jair" liberou a entrada pra ele.
Also, três coisas que eu gostaria de apontar.
>bobonaro estava em Brasilia, mas já existem maneiras de atender o interfone pelo smartphone
>pode ter sido um dos filhos dele
>está com a policia a gravação da conversa entre o porteiro e o "seu jair"
E eu esqueci de postar isso aqui.
>>110245
Se for um dos filhos, aposto no Flávio. Eduardo estava em brasília no dia e o Carlos parece que já comprovou ter um álibi.
>>110245
>Eu acho que vamos descobrir na prática quais as chances do Bozo dar um golpe e o quão bem sucedido o mesmo seria
Tenho o sentimento que o que for parecerá com uma sketch de youtube bosta
>>111165
Provavelmente.
>>111154
Moro está mexendo os pauzinhos. Estão jogando nas costas do porteiro, o elo mais fraco da história toda.

Agora, se perguntem aí, se o depoimento era contraditório, então por que os promotores foram falar diretamente com o presidente do stf?
>>103576
>até agora nenhuma central sindical se pronunciou, eles estão muito mais preocupados com a reforma sindical, já que com ela vem a possibilidade de conseguirem de volta a contribuição obrigatória e conservarem a unicidade
Uma triste observação. Por outro lado, pode ser apenas que a mídia esteja ignorando-as.

>>103576
>existe a possibilidade que o Brasil saia do Mercosul
Pra ser sincero, estou torcendo pra que o circo faça o maior número de cagadas reversíveis possível. Quanto mais infâmia, melhor. Eles sem dúvida tem vontade, nem que seja só pra foder o país, mas não podem mais se dar a este luxo específico, pois afeta os outros poderes. Só podem agir dentro do curral do executivo.

>Culpado do quê? Ele foi um guerrilheiro e fez o que se esperava de um.
Sei bem que não se faz uma revolução de luvas brancas, mas os casos em que ele esteve envolvido não foram lá um primor de compromisso político. O povo boliviano tem total prioridade sobre ele.

>>103834
I was predicting a palace coup by Congress and STF before the end of the year, but with Moro and the press turning out to be the most absolutely pusillanimous cucks possible, the timetable has been delayed. It still seems like the most likely scenario to me tho.

>>103867
Oh man, I fucking wish that would happen, it would absolutely guarantee the palace coup I mentioned. Playing 02 against the pint-sized veep is the best thing one can do for Brazilian democracy at the moment.

>>104663
>>104676
It's worth pointing out he has had the opportunity to petition for house arrest for months now, but refuses to do so. His justification is that he doesn't recognize his conviction. Which doesn't jive with the way he delivered himself to the authorities and still won't dare skirt any legalities, but whatever.

Lembro-me agora que um dos anti-lulistas babujantes da grande imprensa, cujo nome infelizmente me escapa no momento (são tantos!), teve que noticiar isto em sua coluna, na época. Dava pra ouvir o cu dele sendo rasgado de raiva.
>>107396
>>107536
Falta muita autocrítica na esquerda, mas mesmo assim, só a esquerda faz mea culpa. Liberal só sabem fazer tua culpa. Já os direitistas nunca abrem mão da coprobalística.

>>108885
Lembrando que, meses atrás, já falou em ressuscitar a UDN. Seria o décimo partido de sua carreira. Aliás, ele tem mais partidos do que mandatos.

Aproveito pra lembrar que falar publicamente qualquer merda que der na telha é tática proposital deles. É aquele tal abuso das merdas burguesas que a direita adotou, que sempre foram utilizadas em escala mais moderada. Faz com que eles sempre controlem o debate público. É impossível argumentar sobre a total insanidade da política contra as drogas, por exemplo, quando a mídia toda está repetindo, com expressão sisuda e solene, que o presidente propõe a revisão da Lei Áurea. Fora outros objetivos secundários que isso serve, como testar a popularidade de algumas dessas merdas, jogar pra torcida etc. etc.

>>110222
>>110245
Certeza absoluta de que, se não esteve entre os mandantes, ao menos estava a par do plano. Puta que pariu, o cara é vizinho e foi co-sogro do assassino, só neste delírio coletivo que o Brasil se tornou isso não acaba em impeachment-relâmpago. Aplicando-se o princípio ESFOL ("e se fosse o Lula"), ninguém poderia negar que teria tomado golpe aberto antes do pôr-do-sol. Se Bozo não caiu por causa disso, nem selfie dele ao lado do cadáver ainda quente da Marielle derrubaria. Essa do interfone não vai dar em nada. É a tal situação anômala. Todo dia, ele faz algo que renderia impeachment na época da Dilma, e já foram no mínimo cinco eventos que teriam derrubado qualquer um -- Queiroz, Marielle, Vaza-Jato, Itaipu e Amazônia. Até onde posso ver, há claramente um fator externo impedindo isso, feito uma trava de segurança, e teorizo que isso seja o desmanche da LJ, que precisa ocorrer para um possível retorno à normalidade e que seria muito mais proveitoso se ocorresse antes da queda.
>>110375
Realmente, Flávio parece ser o mais sangue-frio. 02 é um lolcow superdesenvolvido e 03 é uma criança solta desacompanhada na Disneylândia.

>>111165
Do jeito que a coisa anda, é capaz de que seria perdoado justamente com essa razão. "Era claramente uma piada, ele não portava qualquer seriedade ao utilizar-se dos canais institucionais para suscitar um levante armado contra a ordem democrática".
>>111154
>Esse pessoal leva memes a sério demais.
Anão, tal coisa é impossível nesta era. O próprio presidente é um meme ambulante que foi menosprezado por décadas. A piada de hoje é o decreto presidencial de amanhã.
>20 mortes e 7000 prisões no Chile
Cacilda. Em 13 dias, botou os meses de farra dos coletes amarelos no chinelo, que, por sua vez foi literalmente infinitamente mais violenta que o teatro chinês em Hong Kong. Gostaria de ter tempo pra comparar a cobertura dada a cada um dos eventos pela imprensa internacional.
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>>111387
<A piada de hoje é o Ato Institucional de amanhã.
>>111378
>Já os direitistas nunca abrem mão da coprobalística.
ASA ESQUERDA DESTRUÍDA
>>110159
Não deu 24 Horas e o engavetador geral e cão de guarda Moro já agiram. Te falei.
I was told the local subsidiaries of Atlas Foundation were preparing a protest against weed legalization or somesuch, but I can find literally nothing about it. I suppose that a silver lining of this horrible political apathy is that not even the fashies and assorted cavemen can conjure a crowd. The situation still benefits them, but only as much as neutrality, by its own nature, favors the status quo. But still, I'm glad the Bozo consumer fad fizzled too fast to even start a skinhead gay club or some shit like that.
>>111529
>But still, I'm glad the Bozo consumer fad fizzled too fast to even start a skinhead gay club or some shit like that.
Honestly that would be funny, and a good example to the world that idpol is cancer
Algumas noticias do dia:
https://oglobo.globo.com/brasil/eduardo-bolsonaro-se-esquerda-radicalizar-resposta-pode-ser-via-um-novo-ai-5-2-24053268
https://exame.abril.com.br/brasil/para-cupula-da-pgr-eduardo-esta-protegido-pela-imunidade-parlamentar/
https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/promotora-de-coletiva-sobre-caso-marielle-fez-campanha-para-bolsonaro/
https://politica.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,peco-desculpas-diz-eduardo-bolsonaro-apos-reacoes-sobre-o-ai-5,70003071705
https://noticias.uol.com.br/politica/ultimas-noticias/2019/10/31/ai-5-tem-que-estudar-como-fazer-diz-general-heleno-sobre-fala-de-eduardo.htm
E o Nassif tá dizendo que nem interfone existe na condomínio, lol.

>>111200
Acredito que eles são obrigados a falar com o STF em caso de alguém com foro privilegiado ser citado, a pergunta seria o por que o MP foi falar com a PGR.

>>111346
>Uma triste observação. Por outro lado, pode ser apenas que a mídia esteja ignorando-as.
Nem a mídia de esquerda? Dificilmente.

>mas os casos em que ele esteve envolvido não foram lá um primor de compromisso político
Ele roubou bancos e foi e participou de alguns assassinatos políticos em uma época de repressão na Itália.
Also, eu me lembro que tinha gente aqui pedindo por guerrilha quando o bozo foi eleito, ou seja, fazer as mesmas coisas pelo qual o Battisti foi preso.

>O povo boliviano tem total prioridade sobre ele
Evo não é nenhum campeão do povo, ele é um socdem igualzinho ao Lula, nem as "reformas de base" bolivianas saíram do papel com ele, todo apoio que se deve dar a ele é critico e sempre temos que avaliar se não existe alguma possibilidade de revolução no país.

>>111378
>Falta muita autocrítica na esquerda, mas mesmo assim, só a esquerda faz mea culpa. Liberal só sabem fazer tua culpa. Já os direitistas nunca abrem mão da coprobalística.
Eles não precisam, eles tem dinheiro, nós é que temos que lutar contra tudo e todos.

>Fora outros objetivos secundários que isso serve, como testar a popularidade de algumas dessas merdas, jogar pra torcida etc. etc.
Exatamente.

>Essa do interfone não vai dar em nada. É a tal situação anômala
Eu sinceramente acho que as nossas instituições estão com medo, simples assim.

>>111529
>I suppose that a silver lining of this horrible political apathy is that not even the fashies and assorted cavemen can conjure a crowd.
Both sides can do it tbh, just remember the protests against the education budget cuts, there is some "sectors" of the society that are organized, but i agree that this is true for the majority of the population.
Also, are you sure about this protest? I try to look for some information online and i cant find shit.
>>111505
O Brasil adentra com mais uma figura notabilíssima para a história universal da infâmia. De Bao Zheng tropical, desencantou em Roland Freisler tropical, e desembocou em Giovanni Di Stefano tropical. Deus queira que essa estrela cadente pare de cader o quanto antes.
A esdruxulice da situação: é fato consumado que a LJ foi a maior e, de longe, mais bem-sucedida operação sediciosa da nossa história, e que seus crimes tanto contra a democracia como contra a pátria como um todo os tornam traidores no nível de Vlasov, e isso é absolutamente irrelevante se nenhuma autoridade age sobre o fato. Honestamente, vocês conseguem lembrar-se de qualquer ocasião histórica em que os donos do poder fossem tão inegavelmente antitéticos aos seus próprios países e causas? Isto é pura insanidade. Já ouviram falar no Business Plot? Um plano para dar um golpe fascista nos EUA, frustrado ao ter sido exposto de antemão por aquele que teria sido o novo manda-chuva, um alto-general que acabou por voltar-se contra o imperialismo. Algo de uma seriedade imensa, cujas possíveis e colossais repercussões foram bizarramente ignoradas. A evidência, que, é verdade, é escassa, corrobora a delação, e, até onde sei, nunca foi desmentida. Foi um quase-evento que teria alterado o mundo, e não rendeu nem uma mísera investigação oficial. A mídia, na época, desdenhou, tachando as alegações de embuste e oportunismo. Passamram-se as décadas, e a atitude das autoridades passou disso a simplesmente fingir que nada aconteceu. Um daqueles fatos claros, simplesmente, não cabem nem na hiper-realidade, e, portanto, são solenemente ignorados. Muito familiar, né? O que ocorreu no Brasil foi um Business Plot levado a cabo, e com sucesso. Notem como a atitude da vara segue o exato mesmo padrão. Antes, tachavam os acusadores de teóricos da conspirações. Agora, fingem que nada aconteceu, ironicamente, porque é inegável que algo aconteceu.

https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/colunas/monicabergamo/2019/11/moro-e-deltan-visitam-predio-em-que-lula-esta-preso-e-pt-reage.shtml

É impossível voltar disto para uma, vá lá, normalidade democrática, não importa o quanto os Maias e Toffolis torçam. Fraqueza momentária é tratável. Loucura, não.

E reitero que isso mostra o quão pouco poder o demo tem na democracia. As raposas não apenas estão guardando o galinheiro, como são suas donas de papel passado, e não há absolutamente nenhuma forma de um cidadão combater isso dentro das instituições. Todo o poder está nas mãos de outras partes do governo, que deveriam servir de fiscais. Basta que eles ignorem seus deveres, e pronto. De nada valem as salvaguardas democráticas. Elas estão reveladas como passivas, quase que espantalhos. Sempre pensamos em hipóteses sobre os encarregados da democracia não serem capazes de realizar sua função, mas nunca cogitamos no que fazer se eles meramente decidissem não fazê-lo, e cá estamos. Os guardiões da democracia não podem ser forçados pelo povo a guardar o poder deste, pois este é farsesco. O pretenso guardião é, na verdade, um seqüestrador, mantendo a democracia refém. Se quiser, protege, se não, azar. O infâme clichê que diz que, para o mal triunfar, basta que os bons não façam nada, está corretíssimo. Os canalhas sempre vão tentar se apoderar de mais e mais quinhões de poder e riquezas, e um único evento em que os supostos guardiões não atuem basta pra acabar tudo de vez. O povo precisa vencer toda vez. Os monstros, apenas uma. E eles conseguiram.

Mais uma lição pra lembrar depois do circo terminar de pegar fogo: a corja precisa ser ativamente oposta. Sempre precisou, e nunca foi. E por isso, chegamos a tal nível de banditismo e degeneração que oposição violenta à reacionaria é, ao mesmo tempo, a opção mais moral e mais sã. Ela tornou-se uma entidade que pode ser descrita, sem exagero, como anti-civilizatória.
>>113244
Qual a sua análise do Brasil econômicamente e infraestruturalmente? E como o Brasil reagirá a crise iminente?
>>112795
>a mídia de esquerda
Anão...

Mas você está certo, não vi nada a respeito nem nos poucos orgãos de esquerda. O troca-troca de não reclamarem da deforma pra poder ter a contribuição de volta faz sentido, infelizmente.

>Also, eu me lembro que tinha gente aqui pedindo por guerrilha quando o bozo foi eleito, ou seja, fazer as mesmas coisas pelo qual o Battisti foi preso.
Não vou dizer que não simpatizo, mas encaremos, isso é aventurismo. Battisti estava muito mais pra Nechevski do que pra Che. Na mesma medida, Evo, sem dúvida, é um socdem, mas é aquela coisa, seu sucesso contínuo protege o povo boliviano do serpentário de Santa Cruz de la Sierra. Eu preferia que ele tivesse dado asilo a Battisti, porém, entregá-lo foi um pecado perdoável, na minha opinião.

>Eu sinceramente acho que as nossas instituições estão com medo, simples assim.
Concordo plenamente que elas estavam com medo, mas diria que isso já passou. Nunca vou me esquecer da pussilanimidade do Toffoli, contratando generaleco apijamado pouco antes das eleições e chamando 1964 de movimento, foi algo patético a ponto de causar vergonha alheia. Mas ele e seus colegas de velha escória foram se tocando que a nova tinha vontade mas não talento pra ser ditador. Uma vez que ficou claro que Bozo conseguiu a proeza de se fazer inimigo de metade da festa do pijama, a velha escória percebeu que está lidando com amadores. Daí o Toffoli protegeu Flávio pra deixar o papi comendo na sua mão. Rodrigo Maia, então, está mais sossegado que Tim Maia. Se quiser, literalmente senta nas propostas ridículas que o circo envia pro Congresso, e eles não podem fazer nada senão espumar de raiva no zap.

Aliás, acho que esqueci de comentar um fato particularmente insólito de vários meses atrás, daqueles que seria um escândalo em qualquer outra época, mas agora, não causa nem bocejo. Olha só isso: https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/toffoli-se-reuniu-com-autoridades-contra-movimento-para-afastar-bolsonaro/

O tl;dr é que Toffoli mandou a mãe de todas as indiretas pro Bozo, via Veja, dizendo, basicamente, "a milicaiada ficou preocupada e perguntou se deveriam suicidar o Jair, e eu disse pra relaxar que tá tudo sussi". Nunca na vida vi uma mensagem de "dê-se por grato" tão clara, nem envolvendo figuras tão poderosas. E a insanidade do país é tanta que esse momento tirado de O Poderoso Chefão passou completamente em branco pela opinião pública. O capitinho cai no instante que a velha corja quiser. Pela minha análise, só não o fazem agora porque, sem Lula na parada, só Deus sabe o que preencheria o vácuo no Palácio do Planalto.
A sub-trama do hacker rende mais um episódio nesta temporada.

https://veja.abril.com.br/brasil/hacker-prometeu-invalidar-lava-jato-e-libertar-lula-com-dialogos-vazados/

A Veja colocou-se na tarefa ingrata de, ao mesmo tempo, desmascarar a conspiração da LJ e fazer com que seu grande fruto, a prisão de Lula, perdure. Pra isso, dá voz à narrativa particularmente patética do ultra-mega-hacker russo de Araraquara. Aliás, lembra quando a turma do Moro disse que a alcunha dele era "Vermelho"? Essa foi tão furada que já jogaram pra escanteio. Mas ainda tentam pintá-lo como algum operador pró-Lula fanático, apesar de tudo na vida dele atestar em contrário.

Já as antas têm, como missão, lavar o pau do Moro a qualquer custo. Soltaram várias notas sobre o novo episódio do hacker hoje, com informações velhas a conta-gotas pra sociedade normie.

>O Antagonista apurou que é mentirosa a afirmação de Walter Delgatti a Manuela D’Ávila sobre ter hackeado um grupo de Telegram dos ministros Luís Roberto Barroso, Cármen Lúcia e Rosa Weber.
>Nenhum dos ministros teve o celular invadido por Delgatti. Nunca existiu grupo de Telegram.

Ah vá?! Jura mesmo!?

Uma tábua em um simpósio sobre arte rupestre siamesa é, sem qualquer exagero, uma fonte de informação mais fidedigna que toda a mídia brasileira. Além de muito mais adiantada, pois falamos isso ainda na época do primeiro episódio dessa sub-trama.
Why are immigrant Brazilians so neoliberal? They REEE about our common sense social democracy.
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Encontrei esta lembrancinha perdida no meu HD. Como o tempo voa.
>>113485
Considering they always were like that and it only got worse after they broke the country's collective unconscious, I always chalked it up to the fact that they tend to be higher up in the social ladder, and we literally have the worst ruling classes on this gay Earth. Every time I hear of a BR enjoying the benefits of a social-democracy while vomitiming anti-leftist catchphrases they heard from Youtubers on Atlas Network's payroll, another capillary in my brain bursts. For my health if nothing else, I beseech you to turn them over to the local authorities for every single sin of theirs you know.

I'm not joking, by the way. I'm wholeheartedly asking you to snitch on reactionary BR expats to the authorities for anything and everything which might cause the bastards to suffer the consequences of their actions for once in their unlives. In fact, you can probably just snitch on them for no reason, because odds are there are plenty of those of which you're not aware. Pathological reactionaries are the human equivalent of Cordyceps fungii, ruining lives just by virtue of being what they are.
Morre Walter Mercado, e Olavão aparece nas manchetes. Brasil, o país em que o horóscopo fica na primeira página.
>>113481
Esse anime aí tá uma bosta hein?
>>114102
I am pretty sure most of them have commited a crime of some sorts.
>>115121
I swear I'm one eureka moment away from clinching reactionarism as a mental disorder. It really is disturbing how many of them genuinely display actual doublethink. The vast majority of time, people conflate that with compartmentalization, which is a related but separate form of cognitive dissonance. Doublethink is definitely its own beast. And I'd say that holding utterly contradictory beliefs, being aware of it and not minding it is a sign of cognitive impairment if there ever was any, as opposed to a simple character flaw or faulty behavior (compartmentalization can be solved with some mental training). And all those Good Men, those fundraiser-working racists and God-fearing domestic abusers, who floated to the top of the septic tank with Bozo's victory, are a perfect demonstration of mass neurosis being not only normalized, but idealized. Fascism itself, unsurp´risingly, is the best example, being itself the terminal stage of this pathology. Eco nailed several of these contradictions of fascism not simply as systemic ones, but psychological in nature, like a permanenet hero worship leading to permanently frustrated people (especially men), contributing to phallic surrogacy and militarism and sho on and sho on.

I know that labeling what is now considered half of the political spectrum as a mental disease sounds radical, but really, it's my honest conclusion. And besides, being radical says nothing about an ideas inherent merit, right? History provides plenty of examples of neuroses, or even dementia, which societies considered ideals for which to strive. Ancient Egyptians thought incest to be the prerogative of gods and kings and modern monarchists too I suppose, Stalin pretty much imprinted his paranoid personality on his State, India has long been disproportionately beset by religious spookery, and speaking of which, lets face it, the overwhelming majority of religion has always been neurotic in themselves, with their fantastical thinking and whatnot.

This waste of perfectly good carbon right here might be the ultimate case of the reactionary pathology. It's worth pointing out that this isn't due to the radicalism of his political ideas, which, frankly, are rather commonplace. Neither are his actual political actions noteworthy. It's the stark contrast between mutually exclusive sets of behavior over which he flip-flops endlessly while seeing no problem in this contradiction: self-righteous, blowhard moralist, and flat-out sociopathy. This is well past compartmentalization, it's the hallmark of this new pathology, and the stereotypical sign of the Bozo supporter.

https://wikinet.pro/wiki/Emerson
>>115119
E olha que ter uma temporada pior que todas as 519 anteriores não é pouca bosta...
Marcaram um protestos contra a fala do 02 pra amanhã, a impressão que dá é que é uma armadilha, é o momento perfeito pra colocarem agente provocador, talvez nem isso seja preciso.

>>113458
>Mas você está certo, não vi nada a respeito nem nos poucos órgãos de esquerda. O troca-troca de não reclamarem da deforma pra poder ter a contribuição de volta faz sentido, infelizmente.
O pior é que os sindicatos são os únicos que podem frear o governo, é só ver o medo que o governo tem dos caminhoneiros.

>Não vou dizer que não simpatizo, mas encaremos, isso é aventurismo. Battisti estava muito mais pra Nechevski do que pra Che. Na mesma medida, Evo, sem dúvida, é um socdem, mas é aquela coisa, seu sucesso contínuo protege o povo boliviano do serpentário de Santa Cruz de la Sierra. Eu preferia que ele tivesse dado asilo a Battisti, porém, entregá-lo foi um pecado perdoável, na minha opinião.
Por mais que seja um "erro perdoável", o que discutivel, já que ontem foi battisti, amanhã pode ser qualquer um de nós, existe um outro problema nisso, o fato de que se criou uma esquerda conservadora, só se vislumbra conservar o pouco que se conquistou no auge da onda rosa, os limites e perigos em relação a isso são vários, a condições de que permitiram a conciliação de classes dessa época não existem mais, a retirada de direitos dos trabalhadores que acontecem nesse regimes, apesar de serem em um ritmo mais lento que os regimes neoliberais e sempre aprovados com essa mesma justificativa, configuram um literal controle de danos e que no longo prazo vai acabando tendo os mesmos efeitos que o neoliberalismo, a tendência que existe de jogar qualquer movimento antigoverno no colo da direita, por mais de esquerda que as pautas desses movimentos sejam, o fortalecimento da narrativa antissistema da direita, e que, pelo o aconteceu no Brasil, pode acabar gerando um regime de extrema-direita, entre outros. No final, vamos acabar atrelando a imagem da esquerda a defesa do status quo, e defendendo regimes que estão fadados ou a capitulação ou ao fracasso e que impedem qualquer coisa mais radical de surgir, pois se algo mais radical acabar surgindo será pela direita.
Also, eu lembro que uma vez foi dito aqui que a organização e mobilização dos trabalhadores deveria se dar por eles mesmos, cabe a pergunta, será que essa movimentação não se daria a direita?

>Concordo plenamente que elas estavam com medo
Estão, é só ver como não só o próprio bozo, mas os generais do governo dele vivem ameaçando essas mesmas instituições e nada acontece feijoada, quer uma prova? É só ver o silêncio deles sobre o envolvimento do bozo no caso Marielle.

>Mas ele e seus colegas de velha escória foram se tocando que a nova tinha vontade mas não talento pra ser ditador
Eles não tem medo do Bozo, eles tem medo do militares, dos filhos do bozo, do envolvimento dos mesmos com as milícias e, principalmente, dos minions.

>Aliás, acho que esqueci de comentar um fato particularmente insólito de vários meses atrás, daqueles que seria um escândalo em qualquer outra época, mas agora, não causa nem bocejo. Olha só isso: https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/toffoli-se-reuniu-com-autoridades-contra-movimento-para-afastar-bolsonaro/
Não dá pra saber se eles realmente teriam esse poder, o que o Toffoli fez foi tentar manter tudo estável para a aprovação das próximas reformas, outra coisa interessante é que na matéria as únicas tentativas de tirar ou diminuir o poder do bozo vieram dos empresários do setor industrial e de um grupo de parlamentares, a consulta do militar ao ministro do supremo, que pra mim é o mais importante, é de caráter ambíguo. ela pode ser tanto contrária o favor do mesmo, é provável até que uma ala militar mais radical e alinhada ao bolsonarismo dê um golpe no bozo para logo depois devolver o poder a ele como ditador.
>>115287
acredito que se houvesse uma revoluçâo no Brasil, nós estaríamos em uma situaçâonde pós guerra no leste europeu, uma espécie de "denazificação" seria necessária
So Bozo is actually claiming that the interphone audio was tampered with, is that right? Have we reached the level of collective retardation at which flagrant criminal evidence can be handwaved away with the legal equivalent of "no u"? Can someone clarify the details?

>>112795
>Both sides can do it tbh, just remember the protests against the education budget cuts, there is some "sectors" of the society that are organized, but i agree that this is true for the majority of the population.
Whoops, forgot to reply to this. Yeah there are still organized sectors, but I think you can agree that they're fewer than ever. Even the education budget cut protests shrunk awfully fast, to the point the 3rd one was a flop. Destroying all forms of collective action has long been a porky project, and it seems they have reached this goal, with this extreme apathy.

>Also, are you sure about this protest? I try to look for some information online and i cant find shit.
I heard it from a world-renowned professional liberal (assuming this is the proper term in English), so it's possible he had advance word about it from his fellow porkies and didn't know it was still under wraps. At any rate, I googled it again now, and there is some token news about anti-legalization protests which are pathetically small compared to the pro side, which has been mobilizing lately because of the big STF judgment to come. The usual false equivallency that the bougie press will always do.

Speaking of which, that case has been postponed in lieu of the second instance prison, for lack of an equivalent English term. An excuse which doesn't even make sense, because they can be done in any order, but whatever. And the 2nd instance case has been postponed for ages now. My guess is that they're saving it for the most opportune time. Since this might benefit Lula, any decision will raise a stink. I suppose that, ideally, they wish they could postpone it to after the anti-PT spell is mostly unravelled, so they can let Lula free and put an end to this whole sorry mess, but that's still a long way to go.
>>116001
>os sindicatos são os únicos que podem frear o governo
Podiam, né? Pois no atual estado em que estão, mal conseguem parar em pé. A grande exceção parece ser justamente o dos caminhoneiros, que, pela própria natureza do seu trabalho, não podem realizar direito manifestações concentradas em qualquer local e hora pré-determinados, então eles partem direto pra paralização ou greve. E, infelizmente, pelo que sei, esse sindicato está em mãos de tucanos. Ou ao menos estava, na época da greve anterior.

>[...] Battisti [...]
Entendo sua preocupação, só não acho que é algo que gere repercussões. Por isso que considero perdoável.

>Also, eu lembro que uma vez foi dito aqui que a organização e mobilização dos trabalhadores deveria se dar por eles mesmos, cabe a pergunta, será que essa movimentação não se daria a direita?
Uma observação pertinente. Bem, aí caimos na dificuldade de prever qualquer coisa neste momento. A direita sempre pode tirar um coelho da cartola, nem precisa de um teatro de manifestoches. Aliás, isso parece que está difícil pra ela, tanto aqui, na vanguarda da pós-pós-modernidade, quanto no resto do mundo. Faz um certo tempo que vem crescendo um sentimento anticapitalista pelo mundo. Beeeeeeem lentamente, mas genuinamente, pois é causado pelas pessoas sentindo na pele o recrudescimento do capital. Daí a direita precisa de tópicos específicos para fazer qualquer mobilização, por mais farsesca que seja. Afinal, eles só existem quando reagem a algo. E, no momento, estão ficando sem alvos. A migração pra Europa está um pouco mais controlada, não há mais ataque terrorista toda semana etc. Enfim, creio que este levante direitista é fogo de palha, como Itália, Chile, Argentina e outros mostram. Não que o capitalismo não continue decaindo, mas não vejo como a direita mundial pode realizar um novo teatro de manifestoches no futuro próximo.

>instituições com medo
Pois então, esta nova trapalhada do 03 demonstra essa minha noção de que elas perceberam que o pior foi evitado e estão perdendo o medo. Olhe o quanto a velha corja aproveitou pra pagar de amantes da liberdade e dar lapadas verbais no Dudu, ao passo que, nem uma ano atrás, não deram um pio a respeito do relincho sobre um cabo e um soldado. Eles estão percebendo que o poder da nova corja é mais aparência do que realidade. O exército digital é majoritariamente falso, os apoiadores em posições de poder viram casaca sem pensar duas vezes, e, o mais importante, o risco de violência política foi debelado. Primeiro, porque a inépcia da direita trissômica rachou o apoio da festa do pijama. Talvez não esteja dividida em metades iguais, mas o bastante pra que nenhum desses bundas-moles sonhe em arriscar algo. Ao meu ver, esse encontro de milicos com Toffoli é, justamente, do segmento que o Bozo alienou, mandando seu recado. Segundo, porque, misericordiosamente, grupos armados de direita não se materializaram, graças a Deus. A velha corja está se tocando que o risco de contrariar a nova não é o perigo que parece.

Só deixo um parêntese aí para o estado do Rio. O governador simplesmente não possui o que Freud chamava de superego, as milícias estão comendo soltas, todos os sinais vindo de lá são maus. Acho que o país não está mais sob risco de conflito, mas uma merda localizada no Rio é bem possível.
>>116020
Um camarada num dos primeiros fios usou o termo perfeito: precisamos de uma enorme peneirada. Até onde vai meu conhecimento, a última vez que uma zelite perdurou por tanto tempo quanto a nossa foi na China pré-imperial, antes de Cristo. É muito detrito acumulado. Kulaks, mandarins, latifundiários, senhores-da-guerra, tradicionalistas, racistas, bandidos, colonialistas, e outros mais, todos no mesmo balaio.
>>116075
Será que foi o autismo brasileiro que deu luz ao posadismo?
Sorry to interrupt, but can someone on the ground give me an overview of the political situation of Brazil and how people are reacting to the South American protests?
>>116225
You have the President's son and a general openly talking about using military force on the grounds of "national security" if those protests spread to Brazil.
>>116689
>>116225
On the other hand, they have been doing so for years, and this is the first time there has been pushback against it. A crucial factor here is that previous threats of coup had the condition of "the thieves of the nation escaping justice" i.e. Dilma not getting coupeached and/or Lula being arrested. The people now shedding a tear for freedom over the current threats were applauding the previous ones, back when PT was in power. And it should be said, in the interregnum between Dilma and Bozo, such threats were met with mere silence. Funny how porkies' love for democracy is directly proportional to their control over it.
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Let me ask something about whatever place you guys live in. Did this happen there, or is it just here that pigeons seem to have almost vanished? It's really weird, but I realized I barely see any of them at all. In their stead, there are now pandemonia of small parrots. Much, much lower in number than pigeons used to be, but much more noticeable because of their loud shrieking. I actually like them better tho, because it kind of stands out. Most Western cities are flooded by pigeons, and being gently soaked in parrots is amusingly novel, not to mention stereotypical of us. Besides, they're much cleaner and not a vector for communicable diseases. And I confess I find their screeching actually charming, in a boisterous, lively way.

Apropos of that: https://ebird.org/

>>116225
As far as our mainstream media is concerned, there aren't any South American protests outside of Venezuela. Our media has always dedicated pitifully little time to Hispanic America, and it reached an all-time record these past few years as neolib Argentina crashed and Bolivia boomed. Now that there are protests revving up all over the place, in a stark contrast to our political catatonia, the area comprehended between our borders and the southern US border has been swallowed by the Earth.

One of the things about this bizarre situation and its unpredictability is that literally no one knows quite what to do. It's like everyone is just picking whatever feels right and going for it, except nothing really feels right. The nominally oppositionist media is a good example. They spend all day taking potshots at the presidential clan and a few of their hangers-on, while giving a free pass, or even sucking up, to Moro, and/or Guedes and/or whomever.

The first isn't working because, after 5 years of extremely biased presentation in order to make Lula farting sound like a chemical weapon attack, they dialed it back down to the usual bougie M.O. of more or less objectively describing their enemies' sins but in loaded terms and playing down their advances. This flat-out doesn't work anymore, because their anti-PT campaign has deprived every Brazilian person of axiology, and no one can judge the merits of any event or thing, so whatever inanity or crime of Bozo's the oppositionist media reports on just normalizes it instead of smearing him. It's worth pointing out that this relies on the universal media practice of never being actually objective, and instead just keeping on a facade. The new right is abusing the systemic and deliberate flaws of their own State and society. I said before, and I stand by it, that if the TV networks decided to just start telling the unvarnished truth about the past 5 years, Bozo would be out of a job before the weekend. Hell, it doesn't even need to be all TV networks, Globo all by itself could do it. They have the power to end this mess at any given time all by themselves, but they won't because they were one of the main culprits. So now they're bumbling around and fucking things up further instead of biting the bullet.

The second one also isn't working because all segments of the circus either play their part 100% or get fired, so whomever is allied to Bozo at any given time can't possibly be "helping the enemy". Moro has been singularly pathetic in this regard, and yet Globo still paints Car Wash as a triumph of honesty.
>>118031
São Paulo has pigeons still, where do you live where thats happening?
>>118031
Your thoughts on the "fusing" of municipalities? As i see it, it's mostly benign with some good for the bloated buerocracy.
>>118046
Take it from someone who comes from a town with less than 5 thousand people. Small towns will lose representation and local problems will be ignored.
>>118934
Are your problems adressed now?
>>118934
>Small towns will lose representation
Good, you deserve only as much representation as you have people living there. Arguments in favor of giving more representation based on amount of land squatted on have always been ruling-class bullshit.
>>118042
Not today, ABIN.

>>118046
Honestly, I think it's simple demagoguery. It's the sort of "common sense" spouted by every lumpenbrain who thought that the way to clean the country up was to gather all the dirt and put it atop the throne. This thing is just what these idiots would eat up. The circus needs permanent hype in order to stay alive in the same way a lie can only keep going with more lies. But they already spent their entire catalogue of "controversial proposals" months ago, and the plan B (for Bozo) of letting the president just bee himself was spent weeks ago. It makes sense that they would turn to these tired old cliches which would totes fix the country overnight. We'll see if this is their current tactic if they bring niobium or the Raposa-Serra do Sol reservation up before the end of the year.

As for the effects, it will probably increase poverty in those areas and increase inter-region unequality. Historically, the little material progress the country has enjoyed has been driven by State investment because our porkies are complete shit even at being porkies. A lot of poor areas depend on the cash injection provided by the State in the form of, for example, welfare programs. This thing with unnecessary city divisions serves this function as well, tho admittedly, it's far, far more prone to abuse. There's no shortage of local strongmen and crooks lording over their fiefdoms within this vast land. Still, I think odds are that cutting this revenue source completely will have a human cost bigger than it does now with the waste and abuse factored in. These cash injections are one of these stopgap "solutions" that we're permanently relying upon because we fucking refuse to solve the underlying problem. So of course reactionaries want to remove the stopgap measure without solving anything.

>>113367
Wikipedia, broseph.

>>113374
Oops, missed this one.

I dunno, on one hand, the signs that this years-long recession are finally ending have been around for a few months now (in a very rough manner of speaking, in order to notice if the economy is booming or busting, you should look for the secondary stats, the growth of the growth, so to speak. The growth is akin to velocity, and the growth's growth is akin to acceleration. If you care for mathematical crap, look up second derivative).

On the other hand, and again considering the State-driven investment, the circus has been cutting the budget to the bone. But what I think will be the worst part is the auctioning of profitable State-owned companies, which provided a considerable sum to the budget. With these sources of revenue gone, you can bet they will direct yet more cuts to education, healthcare and shit.

So the obvious conclusion is that this recovery will be short-lived, or we will have the sort of awful Chile scenario in which porkies around the world celebrate a GDP miracle while the living standards themselves sink. But my dialectics sense is tingling, and I don't know why. My intuition tells me this is too obvious a scenario and there's an important factor I'm missing...
>>119281
>My intuition tells me this is too obvious a scenario and there's an important factor I'm missing...
You mean the fact we as a collective will somehow extraordinarilly fuck this up and make history out of it?
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LULA LIVRE AMANHÃ!
>lula se elege e continua a conciliação de classes
Marquem minhas palavras.
>>119355
Fellas, we have to assassinate Lula
>>119355
Fellas, we have to assassinate Lula
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My mobile was set to automanage timezones, and switched to daylight savings time by itself. Which doesn't exist anymore, as per presidential decree, so I woke up one hour earlier than needed. I'm not sure why he even bothered with it. Among the many, many inane or monstrous causes he took up over the decades, DST being a communist plot wasn't among them, to the best of my knowledge. My only guess is that he did it simply so he could say he did something. And I do actually mean this without sarcasm. The only explanation I can think of for nixing DST is to entertain the circus audience and claim "another" "promise" was "fulfilled". If the thought of a head of government creating pointless measures purely so he can say to his base that he has actually done anything at all during his weekly Facebook livestreams sounds like heavy-handed satire, well, it's because modern politics is one and the same thing as heavy-handed satire thereof. Fiction has taken reality over and blah blah blah.

>>119286
Well, now that you mention it, I suppose that is the obvious scenario, isn't it? So either we'll won't fuck up, or will fuck up in a new and as-of-yet indescribable way. Fingers crossed!
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>>119355
I would gladly settle for that right now tbh

Ah, to return to that golden age of average growth and modest development...
>>119709
O tiozão do churrasco que compõe o nacional-taxismo não curte o horario de verão, logo, Bolsonaro não curte o horario de verão e portanto foi abolido por puro boomerismo.
>>116066
>Yeah there are still organized sectors, but I think you can agree that they're fewer than ever. Even the education budget cut protests shrunk awfully fast
This is something that i cannot really assert, there is a right wing protest scheduled for tomorrow, with all this fuss about the second instance prison it will be no surprise if they manage to put some people in the streets, i dont think it will be big as the protests against the budget cuts, but lets see.

>>116070
>Podiam, né? Pois no atual estado em que estão, mal conseguem parar em pé.
Me expressei erroneamente, a única coisa que pode frear o governo são greves e a politização das mesmas.

>A grande exceção parece ser justamente o dos caminhoneiros
Que, espantosamente, não se organizaram no sindicato mas em grupos zupzap.

> que, pela própria natureza do seu trabalho, não podem realizar direito manifestações concentradas em qualquer local e hora pré-determinados,
Na verdade eles podem e fizeram, houveram protestos de caminhoneiros em frente a refinarias, eles protestavam e bloqueavam a entrada da mesma com caminhões.

>E, infelizmente, pelo que sei, esse sindicato está em mãos de tucanos. Ou ao menos estava, na época da greve anterior.
O que não quer dizer muito já que a greve foi organizada por fora dele.

>Uma observação pertinente. Bem, aí caimos na dificuldade de prever qualquer coisa neste momento. A direita sempre pode tirar um coelho da cartola, nem precisa de um teatro de manifestoches. Aliás, isso parece que está difícil pra ela, tanto aqui, na vanguarda da pós-pós-modernidade, quanto no resto do mundo. Faz um certo tempo que vem crescendo um sentimento anticapitalista pelo mundo. Beeeeeeem lentamente, mas genuinamente, pois é causado pelas pessoas sentindo na pele o recrudescimento do capital.
A questão aqui é justamente a cooptação desse sentimento e a relação do mesmo com o conservadorismo de esquerda, eu posso te dar várias exemplos de como movimentos com pautas de esquerda foram cooptados pela direita ou como o sentimento anti-capitalista foram usados para reforçar a própria narrativa e domínio do capitalismo, o próprio bolsonarismo fez isso diversas vezes, e em uma conjuntura onde a única coisa que a esquerda faz é controle de danos, onde no imaginário popular a esquerda, que governou por treze anos, representa o status quo e a ruptura é representada, pelo menos pra um terço da população, com a direita ou com ninguém, onde existe uma enorme despolitização das lutas dos trabalhadores e greves são vistas por ambos os lados como acidentes, manifestações da natureza, tudo indica que pode fazer novamente.

>Pois então, esta nova trapalhada do 03 demonstra essa minha noção de que elas perceberam que o pior foi evitado e estão perdendo o medo. Olhe o quanto a velha corja aproveitou pra pagar de amantes da liberdade e dar lapadas verbais no Dudu, ao passo que, nem uma ano atrás, não deram um pio a respeito do relincho sobre um cabo e um soldado. Eles estão percebendo que o poder da nova corja é mais aparência do que realidade. O exército digital é majoritariamente falso, os apoiadores em posições de poder viram casaca sem pensar duas vezes, e, o mais importante, o risco de violência política foi debelado.
Eu acho que é muito cedo pra afirmar, pra mim a fala do Maia não representa uma real afronta ao bolsonarismo, quanto as brigas internas me parece muito mais estratégia para centralização do poder do que exatamente uma virada de casaca, é só ver como na maioria das vezes quem começa atacando é próprio bozo, que, aliás, está sendo bem sucedido no processo de aparelhamento das instituições e ainda continua com um expressivo apoio das forças armadas.
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>>118031
>Let me ask something about whatever place you guys live in. Did this happen there, or is it just here that pigeons seem to have almost vanished? It's really weird, but I realized I barely see any of them at all.
They still here they are watching me right now.

>In their stead, there are now pandemonia of small parrots.
Periquitos verdes? They are more commom in certain times of year.

>Most Western cities are flooded by pigeons, and being gently soaked in parrots is amusingly novel, not to mention stereotypical of us. Besides, they're much cleaner and not a vector for communicable diseases. And I confess I find their screeching actually charming, in a boisterous, lively way.
You would be impress by the fauna of your cities if you start to pay attention.

>The first isn't working because, after 5 years of extremely biased presentation in order to make Lula farting sound like a chemical weapon attack, they dialed it back down to the usual bougie M.O. of more or less objectively describing their enemies' sins but in loaded terms and playing down their advances.
Its not something that starts when Lula got elected, its been always like this.

> I said before, and I stand by it, that if the TV networks decided to just start telling the unvarnished truth about the past 5 years, Bozo would be out of a job before the weekend. Hell, it doesn't even need to be all TV networks, Globo all by itself could do it.
I doubt it, those people have their own bubbles on the internet, this is not gonna change the opinion of the people that vote for bozo.

>The second one also isn't working because all segments of the circus either play their part 100% or get fired, so whomever is allied to Bozo at any given time can't possibly be "helping the enemy". Moro has been singularly pathetic in this regard, and yet Globo still paints Car Wash as a triumph of honesty.
They are true to their class interrest.

>>118046
Its kinda of ambiguous, its gonna reduced the bureacracy and the costs but at same time is gonna make small towns lose representation and the people that live in there will have to go to other cities to solve their problems.

>>119355
>>119713
Conciliação de classes está morta, os direitos políticos do Lula ainda estão cassados e mesmo se ele estiver morto isso não mudaria o fato de que a esquerda não tem um programa e que por isso ela ainda vai insistir na conciliação de classes até só deus sabe quando.
Estão dizendo que o Bobonaro fez um acordo com o STF para safar o filho deles, o pior é que o silêncio dele realmente está me encafifando.
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Eu não acredito,um liberal acabou de fazer um bom argumento.

Vou entra na gangue aceleracionista e quero que o bolonario faça um golpe militar e mate o Lula so pro povo tentar fazer a revolução.
>>119912

Marcola 2022, accelera irmãos
LULA LIVRE!
Huh, Lula actually walked out of prison. I thought he was going to refuse, like he did before when he had the right to request being moved to house arrest, but I suppose that that wasn't the same thing as this STF ruling. He can't demand to stay in prison against the law, after all. My God, so many levels of irony.

>>119721
>nacional-taxismo
Como dizem na gringolândia: meus lados!

Isso me lembra de outra picuinha que corrobora essa tese de que ele fez isso só pra mostrar serviço. Na época do tal decreto, uma pesquisa disse que 90% concordavam com a decisão -- suponho que a maior parte dessa massa simplesmente estava se lixando pra isso. E mesmo assim, o mentecapto fez questão de bolsonar sobre os 10%: https://www.poder360.com.br/governo/bolsonaro-10-nao-aceitam-o-fim-do-horario-de-verao-por-causa-da-cervejinha-da-tarde/

Vêem o nível em que a nova corja atua? Literalmente inventam problemas, só pra ter o que falar. O Espetáculo não pode parar, senão a audiência começa a perceber a lona do circo pegando fogo.

>>119912
Só adiciono que esse fracasso em criar lideranças não é só na esquerda. Lula é a última grande figura política brasileira. Se parar pra ver, a direita está ainda mais carente de personalidades carismáticas. Mas quem tem a grana que ela tem não precisa de personalidade, né?
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>>119984
Viva!
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Hmmm, it seems Lula's release wasn't "automatic". All convicts who can benefit from this ruling have to apply individually, and even then a judge will have to approve it. Really looks like this was a gift to Lula while keeping the rest of the prison population behind bars since they can't afford lawyers WEW

Anyway, I guess he refused to go on house arrest, but was OK with taking this opportunity since he's free to move around.

Some other interesting details. The ruling was 6x5, with the last, tie-breaking vote being cast by Toffoli. Yes, that craven toad who brownnosed the military officers even before the election last year was decided. I think this reinforces the notion that the old scum is undoing the evil spell it helped cast. Which brings to mind another fact from early this year, during the absolutely barbaric way that Lula's right to attend his relatives' funerals was handled. The first time, Car Wash just plain denied it, and realizing how badly that reflected on them, decided to let him attend the second funeral, but conditioned it -- without any legal basis, as far as I know -- on him not adressing anyone in public. And with the insane security detail they set around him, it was clear that the mobilized troops, cops and such weren't there to protect him nor to foil at Hollywoodian rescue attempt rightwing scum actually published such "plans" by fanatic PT partians, seriously, but to keep him from adressing the people at any cost. As he left the funeral house and reached his transport, for the first and only time in that leave, he did something other than listlessly move around without even acknowleging the existence of anyone who wasn't a heavily armed escort: he brifly waved at the public before entering the car. That was enough for some captain on his security detail to say "you know you shouldn't have done that, sir", to which he replied "you know I had to". The fact that the STF now not only let him out in public but free to travel is a fuck-you of just the right proportions to CW, which, lest we forget, we now know acted directly against them even before the coupeachment.
>>119480
Not today either, ABIN.
Para ser honesto, o Brasil deseja que o stalinismo controle sua ordem social. Os latinos precisam de duas vezes mais disciplina que os brancos.
We have to kill Lula before he betrays us.
>>120048
There are 33 countries in Latin America, only one of them is even close to Stalinism, Cuba.
>>120092
ABIN fuck off
Muito estranho o silêncio da corja.
>>120598
Pois é, reparei que a Globo deu um bocado de cobertura, mas nem de longe teve a histeria dos anos anteriores, quando eles entravam com plantão de emergência até quando recurso dos advogados de Lula poderia resultar em soltura. Tenho a sensação que ela percebeu a inevitabilidade do que temos conversado aqui. Não a ponto de apoiar o Lula nem mesmo temporariamente, mas tampouco se opondo com qualquer esforço. Meio que resignados que fadaram-no a ser herói nacional.

Se em que a Globo faz parte da velha corja. A nova, assumo, deve espernear sem parar, pois eles colocaram-se como abertamente anti-Lula, então tem tudo a perder. Como que ela está reagindo? Assistir o plim-plim já é difícil, então não tenho estômago pras outras emissoras. Mas o mais importante mesmo é a esgotosfera da internet, onde está o público cativo, a reaçada patológica, e aí já confesso que passo longe disso por questão de saúde mental mesmo.
>>120598
Mas o reaça tão muito puto mesmo com lula livre, é só ver os comentários e os dislikes nos videos reportando o lula. O bando de abortos mentais cagando pra tudo quanto é lado.
>>120799
>>120825
Ele está se referindo especificamente a família bolsonaro, as declarações em relação a soltura do lula foram ambíguas, Bolsonaro só afirmou que "enaltece" a atuação do Moro, o Flávio ficou quieto, Carluxo disse que o jogo vai virar, só o Eduardo disse algo mais contundente, mesmo sim bem abaixo do "padrão" dele, quanto a grande mídia, fizeram o teatro de sempre, cobrindo a saída do Lula em tempo real e o discurso.
>>120840
Sim. É impressionante como se apequenaram diante de uma verdadeira figura política popular. Eles não conseguem fazer nada, foram reduzidos ao seu verdadeiro papel de esgoto político do país.

Mas como eu sou pessimista, acho que isso dura pouco.
>>120840
Por nova corja, quero dizer toda essa escumalha particularmente rala que subiu à tona agarrada ao calcanhar do zoófilo, os casos inegáveis e terminais de reacionarismo patológico. O PSL principalmente, além de agregados como aquele dono de puteiro e o rato-pelado da Havan, "personalidades" como Bernardo Kuster, Caio Coppolla, Flávio Morgenstern e outros boçais 56% que adotam nome gringo por puro vira-latismo. Vale notar que muitos membros da nova corja stransferiram-se da velha, em especial os olavistas. Toda ela deve ser ostracizada e discriminada ao máximo assim que o circo temrinar de queimar, no nível de não poder mostrar a cara na rua. Isso será essencial para acabar com a esta horrenda "oninormalização" que nos assola.

Com a família estando com a bola murcha no momento, imagino que vão mandar os supra-citados, além da milícia virtual, dar piti no último volume. Os últimos já estão trabalhando (se é que um dia pararam), e os outros estão botando as manguinhas de fora. Eis um ótimo exemplo. Um tempo atrás, ao falar da emenda anti-Mourão, mencionei um deputado paranaense que literalmente cagou nas calças quando a câmara estadual em Curitiba foi invadida por professores em breve. Pois bem, ele já está mostrando serviço: https://oglobo.globo.com/brasil/presidente-da-ccj-da-camara-quer-aprovar-pec-da-prisao-em-2-instancia-ate-proxima-terca-feira-24070847

Saliento que um caso tão gritante de casuísmo, favoritismo, abuso de autoridade e perseguição política perderia o cargo na certa, se fosse do PT.
>>120871
Vi uma notícia dizendo que o violador de cloacas é contra essa PEC. Todo mundo sabe o porquê, né? O flavinho tá com a corda no pescoço e quem tá segurando é o STF, qualquer coisa e eles tomam no cu.

Ah, é como seria bom se eles falassem alguma merda contra o stf...
>>120870
Convenhamos, isso nunca os impediu de falarem merda.

>>120871
Sim, eu estava me referindo ao >>120598, que você quotou aqui
>>120799, acho que você acabou confundindo quando ele disse "Muito estranho o silêncio da corja", ali me parece que ele se referia a família bolsonaro.

>>120875
É o que eu penso também, eles estão em silêncio por causa do Flávio.
*breathes in*
Fuck Lula
>>120901
Hello ABIN
>>120902
Lula is going to backstab us, don't say I didn't warn you.
>>120905
i would rather be fighting a feckless sucdem instead of militerized gloves off fascist tbh
>>120908
Name a single instance where a socialist movement grew from sucdem hegemony
>>120909
A fascist environment will make it much harder for any socialism to be acceptable, let alone grow. That is a larger point.
>>120875
>Vi uma notícia dizendo que o violador de cloacas é contra essa PEC.
Pois é, o Mourão é a garantia dele, a única coisa que o separa de um impeachment-relâmpago.

Falando nisso, fui ver a quantas anda a tal emenda, depois que ela finalmente recebeu um relator na CCJ, que, não por acaso, é o cagão que acaba de dar preferência à emenda anti-Lula. Ele não fez absolutamente nada desde então. E isto significa que a demora em dar o parecer a ela definitivamente já passou, e muito, do prazo estipulado pelo regimento da Câmara. Antes, havia a dúvida de o prazo aplicar-se antes de um relator ser nomeado ou não. Agora, já não há mais dúvida. Se a oposição na Câmara tiver um mínimo de bom-senso, entra com recurso contra o borra-botas. Ao contrário de quebra de decoro, esta violação é clara e objetiva.

>quem tá segurando é o STF
Que coisa, o Toffoli começou comprando favor com Bolsonaro, e acabou levando o Bolsonaro de brinde. Tem também o "Moro privilegiado", mas pra ele, proteger Bozo é autodefesa, pois não tem mais nada.

>>120893
Acho que eles tem maneirado nos últimos meses, na medida em que foram queimando suas pontes, no jargão estadunidense. O 03 chegou até a pedir desculpas, depois que a vara fingiu ficar chocada com o último relincho golpista dele. Eles já não podem se dar ao luxo de criticar o STF ou o Congresso como faziam. A permanência do papi na presidente pode acabar com uma mera ofensa à mãe do Maia ou do Toffoli. Que fase!

>>120905
Buddy, he already did back in his first term. We support him because it's both the morally correct and the most pragmatic course, but we don't nurture illusions of a covert plan to enact Red Terror being hatched during his lonely nights in the slammer.
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>>121007
>we don't nurture illusions of a covert plan to enact Red Terror being hatched during his lonely nights in the slammer.
Speak for yourself.
like Hitler
Lula only comes back stronger after his brief imprisonment
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Óia o refresco!

https://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/politica/2019-11-09/manifestantes-pedem-volta-de-prisao-em-2-instancia-em-ato-na-avenida-paulista.html

>Também houve espaço para ataques ao STF e à imprensa. Em seu discurso, o advogado Modesto Carvalhosa disse que a decisão da Corte é como um golpe de Estado. Para ele, os seis ministros que votaram a favor da execução da pena somente quando o processo transitar em julgado são "canalhas". "Eles são bandidos", gritou Carvalhosa, sob aplausos.
hahahahaha larga o microfone e pega uma mamadeira, bebezão

>Nos cartazes, o público acusava o STF de "vergonha nacional" e "corja de bandidos". Já a TV Globo foi tratada pelos manifestantes como "Globolixo".
Não adianta, Globo. Eco bem falou: o fascista não faz distinções. Se não é um de Nós, é um d'Eles, e Bolsonaro já deixou claro que não abre a porta do clubinho pra quem zoou ele décadas atrás. Seu julgamento aos olhos dele e de sua laia foi feito então, e o veredito foi, e continua sendo, culpado, e apenas submissão completa pode mudar isso. Se não planejam jogar-se aos pés de palhaço do presidente, o que quer que façam contra seu inimigo em comum, Lula, é plenamente irrelevante. Mesmo que você consiga destruí-lo de uma vez por todas, a horda mongolóide não hesitará por um segundo em destruí-la logo em seguida.

>Incomodada, Regina parou de falar e se voltou depois que a deputada Carla Zambelli pediu que ela pudesse terminar. "Gente, pelo amor de Deus. Essa é uma empresa que tem uma história. E tem uma programação que não é só o Jornal Nacional, que não é só determinados...", completava a atriz quando foi novamente interrompida.
ahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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ANÕES! CUIDADO COM A PROXIMA FASE DO GOLPE!
>>121078
Eh, not so sure. He is still pretty popular and will try to regain lost ground. I want to see how will Dirceu come back, he is just as responsible for PT victories as Lula and leaving him to the farse that was mensalão fucked up PT in the medium/long run.
>>120901
I agree.

>>120905
He cannot betray us if he is not with us in first place.

>>120908
I doesn't matter, a revolutionary mass movement can grow in both scenarios, the movement that give birth to PT is proof of that.

>>120915
>A fascist environment will make it much harder for any socialism to be acceptable,
Like a socdem hegemony will monopolize every social movement and not only make harder for a something more radical to happen on the left but will push all of the popular revolt to the right, making that strange reality that we living in, in the end, doesn't matter.

>>121089
Vai ter outra manifestação dia 16 ou 17, não lembro agora, dessa vez por parte dos bolsonaristas, que estão brigados com os organizadores dessa, e estão controlando o dano dizendo que essa não valeu e a outra vai ser maior.

>>Incomodada, Regina parou de falar e se voltou depois que a deputada Carla Zambelli pediu que ela pudesse terminar. "Gente, pelo amor de Deus. Essa é uma empresa que tem uma história. E tem uma programação que não é só o Jornal Nacional, que não é só determinados...", completava a atriz quando foi novamente interrompida.
LOL, é meio que uma pena que não tem isso gravado em vídeo.
>>121486
>dessa vez por parte dos bolsonaristas, que estão brigados com os organizadores dessa, e estão controlando o dano dizendo que essa não valeu e a outra vai ser maior.
Caralho, é muito amadorismo. Eu não consigo parar de me perguntar se os bandos liderados por generais russos brancos, Mussolini, Chiang Kai-shek e afins estavam nesse nível. Foram eles os inimigos tenazes que imaginamos mas cujos sucessores degeneraram ao nível que vemos hoje, ou será que todos foram imbecis que só alcançaram o poder pela simples pujança material de que a direita sempre dispõe?
Tem mão da escória do Brasil naquela zona que tá a Bolívia, viu?
>>121706
Isso nem precisava falar. Tem informações mais precisas?

Algo absolutamente fundamental pra sobreviver a essas malditas revoluções coloridas é chamar seus partidários pra rua. Deixar a oposição tem monopólio sobre as demonstrações públicas é um erro fatal, é tudo que a burguesia precisa pra declarar "vitória por nocaute técnico". Daí a importância de manter um vínculo ativista com seu eleitorado, de não ficar dependendo só de eleição e pesquisa de opinião. Cédulas e formulários de pesquisa não enchem avenidas. O efeito psicológico é importantíssimo, pois as imagens de ruas lotadas de manifestoches sempre acabam prevalecendo sobre uma eleição justa que a direita perdeu, e ela sabe muito bem disso. Ora, ninguém é melhor em viciar o jogo burguês do que a burguesia. Evo precisa botar o povo nas ruas em seu apoio.

O próprio PT foi vítima fatal disso, vide as pequenas demonstrações que conseguiam criar durante a campanha anti-PT. Aliás, uma crítica que me pareceu bastante saliente, embora eu não tenha os meios pra confirmar, é que o PT e a esquerda associada a ele, com a vitória em 2002, foi, aos poucos, saindo das periferias e dos vilarejos, onde havia apoio orgânico a eles e cultivavam laços por meio de ONGs, associações de moradores, cooperativas etc. Conforme o PT reorganizava-se como partido de poder, esse contato foi atrofiando aos poucos na medida em que era substituido por programas sociais, de renda etc., e, obviamente, estes são bons substitutos do ponto de vvista material, de auxílio aos mais pobres, mas não possui o menor contato entre partido e base. Foi um vácuo não só institucional mas físico, conforme tais instituições, que eram de base, esvaiam-se. Nesse vácuo, entraram as igrejas evangélicas picaretas (seria bom ter um termo derrogativo pra designar essa laia ao mesmo tempo em que deixa claro que nossa briga é com este secto, e não a religião em si) e essa hedionda cultura de coach, empreendedorismo, pseudo-ciência, esquema de pirâmide e muito, mas muito filistinismo. O PT criou a nova classe média, mas quem """""""educou""""""" foi a exata mesma escória que mesclou-se ao bolsonarismo. A superestrutura é mais importante do que nunca.
Dorme em paz, Principe Evo Morales
>>121978
A Argentina sai de um erro histórico que ela fez pela segunda vez, e a Bolívia começa outro.

Fosse eu no lugar de Evo, teria usado a oportunidade pra, digamos, suicidar algumas pontas soltas antes de jogar a toalha. Mas entendo que ele já o tenha feito. Está lavando as mãos. "Eu criei a única época de prosperidade deste país miserável, e o fiz sem quebrar nenhuma regra do jogo viciado da burguesia. Se vocês querem voltar à mixórdia de antes, azar o seu".
>>121978
Mas ele acabou de ser re-eleito. O dia dessa mais nova posse sequer chegou? Haverá nova eleição? A oposição vai voltar ao poder na caruda mesmo, ignorando a própria democracia que acabaram de usar como desculpa? Como que fica isso?
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>>122094
É um golpe de estado anão. Eles ja estão aterrorizando a população e a oposição no parlamento. A direita caga e anda pra democracia, tanto aqui como acolá.
Diga-se de passagem, os liberais tão felizes que nem um pinto no lixo com essa merda.
Bem, pelo menos foi uma conclusão limpa. Não teve repressão dura, não descambou pra conflito e tal. Daí quando a direita inevitavelmente jogar o país pro abismo em que ele se encontrava 2 décadas atrás, vão olhar pra esta época e ver abaixo do retrato do Evo: #EuAvisei
>>122190
>foi conclusão limpa
Não, ainda não há conclusão e as coisas não estão seguindo de forma limpa. Opositores queimaram as casas dos familiares de membros do governo, pedidos de prisão foram expedidos para um monte de gente, incluindo o Evo e todo mundo da linha sucessória para a presidência. Inclusive ofereceram dinheiro para a segurança pessoal do Evo entregar ele, seja lá pra que. Ainda tem o Camacho, opositor fundamentalista que está dizendo que colocou deus novamente no palácio presidencial, retirando a deidade indígena.

Aliás, a OEA, tão falante durante as eleições, está calada até o presente momento.
Aproveito pra reforçar minha tese sobre a natureza patológica do direitismo. Reconhecer apenas a força como obstáculo para seus fins é, literalmente, comportamento animal. É assim que um animal raciocina frente a qualquer criatura que encontra. São, por natureza, incapazes de contemplar uma via que não seja o velho "lutar ou fugir". Nessa epistemologia primitiva, não há uma luta para se viver, mas sim a vida em si é vivida para lutar. São arremedos atávicos, atravancando o avanço da raça humana. Um vestígio evolucionário que teima em não desaperecer mesmo não tendo mais qualquer função, servindo então apenas para criar riscos de saúdes desnecessários, como infecções ou tumores. Isso é o pensamento direitista: o equivalente filosófico de um apêndice purulento.
>>122200
https://twitter.com/J_LIVRES/status/1193678735360303105
>Maria Choque e Antonio Costas, presidente e vice presidente do Tribunal Superior Eleitoral da Bolívia, são presos pelo corpo militar que tomou o poder no país. A prisão foi apresentada por soldados mascarados em uma entrevista coletiva.

E parece que neste exato momento estão afastando os militares que foram contra o golpe. Lembra alguma coisa? Brasileiro ainda tem memória aqui?
>>122201
Muito inspirado esse post.
>>122200
>>122211
Bem, então tiro outra conclusão: a formação de milícias populares na Venezuela foram uma idéia corretíssima. É, justamente, a ameaça de força que impede os símios reacionários de abusar de qualquer um que achem ser mais fracos que eles. É claro, pode ser abusado por um líder dito de esquerda incompetente (Maduro, é claro), mas esse é o menor dos riscos.

Acho que este é detalhe mais pertinente do que julgávamos. Na época da Guerra Fria, funcionava de modo diferente, mas agora, um povo armado é parte necessária de uma democracia burguesa funcional, pois a burguesia já não mais reconhece limites que não sejam a força. É outra peculiaridade da América Latina: é agora preciso armar o povo para proteger a democracia burguesa da própria burguesia...

Realço que não estou falando isto por falar. Estou achando que a criação de milícias populares, ou organizações similares, deve ser uma bandeira de todo partido de esquerda, pois é agora é um pré-requisito não apenas para uma revolução, mas para a mísera continuidade de uma democracia burguesa medíocre. A completa perda de pudor da direita mundial pode estar tornando a paz desarmada impossível.

>A prisão foi apresentada por soldados mascarados em uma entrevista coletiva.
Está me lembrando da catástrofe que foi a queda de Khadaffi. O que houve de emrcenários naquela tragédia não foi brincadeira.
Adendo a >>122247

>>122200
>Opositores queimaram as casas dos familiares de membros do governo, pedidos de prisão foram expedidos para um monte de gente, incluindo o Evo e todo mundo da linha sucessória para a presidência. Inclusive ofereceram dinheiro para a segurança pessoal do Evo entregar ele, seja lá pra que. Ainda tem o Camacho, opositor fundamentalista que está dizendo que colocou deus novamente no palácio presidencial, retirando a deidade indígena.
Pois bem, estão fazendo o que devíamos ter feito nos anos 80. Eles não hesitam em realmente expurgar o inimigo. Até o Maduro age feito um santo em relação aos golpistas, e os golpistas, como vemos aqui, nunca fariam o mesmo.

Isso, inclusive, aplica-se ao exército boliviano. Até onde vai a minha memória, Evo tomou o cuidado de não aparelhar, mas reformar as forças armadas, já que estas foram as locomotivas da corja direitista durante a Guerra Fria. De fato, ele conseguiu isso. Lembro-me de declarações sobre como o exército boliviano declarava-se anti-imperialista, e, como acabamos de ver, foram muito bem comportados quando a direita deu o golpe. Bem comportados até mais. Novamente, um exército de mentalidade reacionária não teria tido a mesma benevolência, pois, veja bem, benevolência é algo que requer mente racional. Por definição, animais são incapazes de ter compaixão.

Isto nos leva de novo às milícias populares. Tanto Evo quanto Chavez deram uma garibada em suas forças armadas, mas só o segundo se preocupou em armar o povo, e, agora, vemos que fez toda a diferença.
>>122245
Obrigado, anão. Acho que aprendi mais sobre o reacionarismo só neste ano do que no resto da minha vida, graças aos fascistóides. Meio que uma versão capada e incompetente do vírus, servindo de vacina.
>>122308
Aprendemos na pele.
>>122201
é uma doença mental, realmente
Também teve a eleição na Espanha, mais uma vez a extrema direita ganhou espaço, mas ainda não são maioria, é como eu disse, só dá pra saber se a onda direitista quando eles começarem a perder nas urnas.

>>121644
> Foram eles os inimigos tenazes que imaginamos mas cujos sucessores degeneraram ao nível que vemos hoje, ou será que todos foram imbecis que só alcançaram o poder pela simples pujança material de que a direita sempre dispõe?
Ambos, alguém disse uma vez que ser de direita hoje em dia é pura e simplesmente defender privilégios, por isso observamos hoje em dia liberais e conservadores passando por cima de suas bandeiras históricas, como a conciliação de classes, o desenovlvimento nacional ou a reforma agrária, ao mesmo tempo vivemos na idade das bizzarices, bizzarices essas muito bem financiadas onde o mais tosco chama mais atenção, pode ter acontecido uma especie de seleção natural ao inverso ai.

>>121706
Onde a esquerda é o status quo qualquer ruptura será a direita.

>>122247
>Acho que este é detalhe mais pertinente do que julgávamos. Na época da Guerra Fria, funcionava de modo diferente, mas agora, um povo armado é parte necessária de uma democracia burguesa funcional, pois a burguesia já não mais reconhece limites que não sejam a força. É outra peculiaridade da América Latina: é agora preciso armar o povo para proteger a democracia burguesa da própria burguesia...

Concordo plenamente.

>Realço que não estou falando isto por falar. Estou achando que a criação de milícias populares, ou organizações similares, deve ser uma bandeira de todo partido de esquerda, pois é agora é um pré-requisito não apenas para uma revolução, mas para a mísera continuidade de uma democracia burguesa medíocre. A completa perda de pudor da direita mundial pode estar tornando a paz desarmada impossível.

Você quer apostar comigo que isso seria rechaçado por quase todo mundo na esquerda brasileira incluindo o PT?

>Está me lembrando da catástrofe que foi a queda de Khadaffi. O que houve de emrcenários naquela tragédia não foi brincadeira.
Mercenários que nem sirios eram, será que os mascarados dessa vez são mesmo bolivianos?

>>122515
Eu realmente gostaria de saber quais são os planos do Lula, digo, está óbvio que ele está esperando o governo Bozo ruir, mas e depois? Não temos mais um boom de commodities e uma sociedade divida, sem clima nenhum pra uma conciliação de classe, como seria o neo-lulismo?
Unironically becoming a tankie.
For whomever has been following this Bolivian shindig, quite how much popular support did the opposition have? Did they have any significant number of civilians on the streets?
>>122602
I think Evo won by 10 percentage points higher than the opposition. Unless you think the election was phony, of course, then he must've lost it by 100%. He still has popular support, and any sane person that was on the opposition's side will likely think twice about it now that they have a military dictatorship instead.
>>122614
It's been some time since the previous open military coup in the continent, now that I think about it. The right had been using blank coups, but the last open one I recall was the ill-fated one against Chavez, and that was 17 years ago. The last successful one was, I think, the one against Aristide, which was pretty much still in the Cold War era. Am I missing any?

Have we cucarachas returned to an old habit, or are the Bolivian people politcized enough to stage mass manifestations?
>>122639
>The last successful one was, I think, the one against Aristide, which was pretty much still in the Cold War era.
It was in 2004, there was another one against Zelaya in 2009.
So, from what I can gather, the opposition can't even claim it was a popular uprising, can they? It's gonna be interesting seeing the reactions from our political actors tomorrow. Bozo will no doubt say a dumbed down version of "they killed democracy in order to save democracy", but how about the rest? Considering the opportunistic fuckers who shat on 03's recent bullshit yet remained silent for the previous 30 years, I presume some might want to play up the lover-of-democracy angle some more. At least since, I'm guessing, they can't claim it was totes popular or constitutional, doubly so because Evo was so restrained even Jesus would have told him to "offer the other cheek, but if the fags still keep at it, man the fuck up". If this happens, it will be nice seeing some of the precocious liberals mentioned by >>122117 get grilled.

>>122688
I'd say Zelaya's was the start of this current trend of the judiciary acting as the right's spearhead. But I agree on 2004. I confess I had no idea Aristide got couped twice, I was thinking of the first time. Poor guy.
Ah sim, esta sacada genial de "Nessa epistemologia primitiva, não há uma luta para se viver, mas sim a vida em si é vivida para lutar" em >>122201 náo [e minha, mas do Eco. Repassem esse texto pra todos que vocës conhecem.

https://operamundi.uol.com.br/samuel/43281/umberto-eco-14-licoes-para-identificar-o-neofascismo-e-o-fascismo-eterno
>>122564
a tankie is just an anarchist mugged by reality
>Assistindo um pouco de GloboNews
>Eu sei eu sei
>Mencionam que o exército só """"sugeriu"""" a renúncia de Evo depois que a principal central sindical da Bolívia deixou de apoia-lo
>Dizem que essa central está à esquerda de Evo em muitas questões

Existindo um vácuo de poder completo é óbvio que nenhum sucessor natural de Evo vai assumir, mas será possível que a população e as organizações constituídas também não vão aceitar o Guaidó Boliviano? Acho que somente se o exército e a OEA forçarem muito
Pensando alto sobre a reação ao golpe na Bolívia.

Se, com o desenrolar dos eventos, ficar um caso claro de destruição da democracia, do tipo que a imprensa não consiga pintar como levante popular, vai ser um bom interpolador sobre a lealdade de certas figuras. Como eu disse, imagino que os oportunistas que não se rogaram em aproximar-se do circo vão aproveitar para distanciar-se deste ao condenar o golpe. O importante, porém, é que dá um pretexto perfeito para um protesto contínuo da esquerda, principakemente agora agora que há o Lula dando corda. A condenação do evento bolivianoa como golpe militar puro e simples, sem meios-termos. Seria um bom tópico no qual ater-se ao longo do tempo. Vejam bem, esta insistâncie neste tópico não pode ser motivo pra um só protesto, ou como tópico da semana. Teria que ser levantado constantemente e com prazo indeterminado, principalmente quando Bolsonaro estiver envolvido. Se, em cada aparição pública do capitinho houvesse uns 2 ou 3 gatos pingados mostrando um cartaz bem cheguei, com mensagem do tipo "porque não condenou o ataque à democracia na Bolívia ainda?", e isso continuasse por várias semanas, poderia ter um bom impacto. Este assiduidade ao longo do tempo é importante na atual conjuntura. A oninormalização faz com que qualquer protesto comum seja ignorado, então seria preciso trazer o assunto à tona de novo e de novo e de novo. Vencer pelo cansaço. Só assim poderia haver uma chance de que o povo começa-se a registrar que não, essa merda ocorrendo na Bolívia não é nada normal e nem vagamente institucional ou justa, porra, e vocês deveriam estar indignados, seu bando de arrombado. Esta insistência ao longo do tempo pode vir a ser a chave pra quebrar o feitiço da oninormalização.

O objetivo retórico aqui é, simplesmente, evidenciar que ele é um filho da puta que sequer sabe soletrar democracia, que dirá respeitá-la. Pode cair no mas-e-o-ismo mesmo, não importa. Isto teria de ser esfregado na cara dele em toda possibilidade que aparecer. Sabe como a nova corja adora ficar cobrando moral dos outros das formas mais mendazes e maliciosas possíveis, do tipo "se você é contra o armamentismo, porque não dispensa seus seguranças?". Ele usam isso de forma extremamente desonesta, é claro, mas nosso caso seria simples insistência, pra deixar bem claro até pro mais retardado admirador do palhaço: ele odeio a democracia, seu retardado. Revanche contra a a horda de bots que fica o dia inteiro enchando o saco de membros do PSOL com merdas do tipo "reparei que você ainda não condenaram o latrocínio de João da Silva, em Itapipoca do Leste, ao dia 14 de maio de 2016. Curioso como vocês não negam seus laços com o assassino".

Esse tipo de argumentação desonesta, infelizmente, é eficiente perante a imbecilidade geral da nção, então nada melhor do que usarmos essa tática para passar uma mensagem honesta, não?
>>123263
Tu sabe muito bem que qualquer argumentação, por mais que fique escancarado que é um golpe de estado, é inútil porque a Bolívia tinha um governado de esquerda, qualquer violência na cabeça do gado é justificável quando se trata da esquerda-secreta-bolivariana-cubana-do-foro-de-são-paulo. E qualquer posicionamento ou não posicionamento do Bozo é igualmente justificável. Imagino que até os comandantes das milícias virtuais e aliados podem ficar desconfortáveis,mas a missão e o poder dado a eles pelas elites é grande demais para externarem isso
https://twitter.com/lucasrohan/status/1193819679799881728
Quem poderia imaginar não é?
Em breve teremos esquadrões da morte evangélicos por aqui também.
>>123344
Once again China is proven correct that religion needs to be repressed.
>>123275
Concordo. Por isso tem que ficar repetindo eternamente, até ser uma idéia literalmente impossível de ignorar. Vide a história da expressão "delenda Carthago".
>Evo asked the people to solve this peacefully
Bo surprises.
>some global porkies are calling for new elections
Now this legit surprised me. It would make sense that they would want a bullshit new election in order to justify the coup, but Evo, or whomever he annoints his successor, still has the upper hand when it comes to sheer numbers. If they take this route, of course the media will be bombarded with bullshit, but still it would be an uphill struggle for the right, which is extremely rare for them to engage.
>>120065
Me lembrou que um amigo zé droguinha que queria marcola presidente sumiu, vou voltar a procurar ele. Obrigado anão
Meus queridos, gostaria de saber por obséquio se algum de vocês possuem pdfs, livros, ebooks etc sobre os escritos dos integrantes do primeiro PCB, assim como os escritos de algumas pessoas que se diziam socialistas na época de 1800, aparentemente o primeiro vestígio do Socialismo no Brasil é em 1834 se não estou enganado, e fiquei curioso se existe alguém com informações sobre ou pdfs de escritos, overall literatura política brasileira de 1800 é difícil de achar, mas agradeço quem possívelmente tiver ou que tentou procurar
>>124817
Continuação do post, consegui achar um acervo do José Inácio de Abreu e Lima, que por mais não seja marxista, aparentemente teve parte de sua visão política baseada no socialismo utópico francês, também aparentemente foi um importante general pra Simón Bolivár e portanto uma pessoa importante para a independência das Américas -

http://www.institutoabreuelima.com.br/acervo/ ta aqui o link
vocês viram isso?
https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1194067725456306176?s=09
Aparentemente alguém criou diversas contas falsas(bots) pra subirem uma hashtag dizendo que não houve golpe na Bolívia.
>>124903
>>124817
Tenta os arquivos do marxismo21, eles tem varios livros e pdf's historicos. Mas se tu quiser de fato ler vai ter que gastar um dinheirinho e pesquisar em sebos virtuais/na tua cidade.
Se quiser historias sobre o socialismo no Brasil tem o livro do Leandro Konder e a serie publicada pela editora da unicamp.
Está virando moda autoproclamar-se presidente. Ou presidenta, no caso. Imagino as probabilidades de que a vara boliviana tenha decidido nomear uma mulher pra ganhar a simpatia da imprensa estadunidense. Empoderou!

Palmas também pro presidente do Paraguai, flagrado num esquema de propina mais claro que água e que escapou por pouco de golpe de impeachment, dando hot take internacional: "se ele renunciou, não é golpe".

Quero relevar aqui o quanto o descaramento da direita pode ser visto até nos detalhes. Em época de perigo vermelho, podia-se sempre lançar mão de algum golpe iminente como justificativa fajuta. Em Honduras e no Paraguai, já decaiu o nível, e inventaram o golpe constitucional. Narrativa, aliás, defendida pelo Reinaldo Azevedo. Sinto uma dor no pâncreas quando vejo o pessoal chamá-lo de "Tio Rei".

Mas voltando à vaca fria, a última tentativa de golpe na Venezuela e este na Bolívia refletem o tal descaramento. Sem a menor justificativa, dizem simplesmente que um golpe rastura a democracia. Reparem como isso é uma mentira no sentido mais claro, de ser uma inversão perfeita da verdade. É elementar que até mesmo um líder eleito por eleições fraudadas possui mais legitimidade que um auto-proclamado, já que é impossível fraudar 100% dos votos de uma eleição nacional. Mas dane-se. Pegaram a letra do Caetano Veloso e usaram sem ironia: "democracia é quando nós mandamos em vocês" (aliás, a ficção virando fato de novo!). E daí aparece o energúmeno Made in Paraguay com esse nuclear take que, na minha época de estudante, renderia-lhe uma "geral" na saída da classe. É de um cinismo atroz. Isso é o significado de chutzpah, termo idíche que tornou-se eufemística gíria estadunidense. O sentido original é muito sóbrio, e tem tradução direta em poucas línguas. É malícia completamente livre de qualquer vergonha, sempre deixando implícito que o pulha em questão está protagonizando uma farsa. É o modo default da direita atual, ao destruir as poucas concessões que fez aos povos ao mesmo tempo em que nega veementemente toda e qualquer acusação. Não lembro onde li, mas achei genial este resumo: o fascismo é a incapacidade de sentir vergonha. É perfeito, pois encapsula, ao mesmo tempo, a completa insignificância da empatia na mente direitista com a total falta de limites que não sejam meramente de natureza prática e egocêntrica em seu processo decisório.

O primeiro feitio, a direita sempre teve. É preciso ser ininterrupta, para alguém cujo objetivo existencial é o de deliberadamente impedir o progresso humano. O segundo, que é epitomizado pelo mote fascista de ação pela própria ação, é algo que vai e vem conforme a maré, embora sempre paire sobre a mente reacionária. Ela sempre quer praticar isto, mas nEm tempos de descontentamento popular, essa tendência diminui, já que é preciso aumentar a ração de migalhas que jogam para o resto da humanidade. Vez por outra, porém, esse desregro por qualquer limite não prático (ou seja, ele faz o que quer desde que não sofra conseqüências, ignorando qualquer consideração moral) aflora. O fascismo, é claro, representa o auge nadir desse impulso, e estamos passando por outro surto, ainda que mais fraco. Só que o fascista original falava, sim, ao que veio. Os fascistóides de hoje, por não estarem plenamente seguros em um Estado sob seu controle porém botando as manguinhas de fora, tem a cara de pau de continuamente alegar: "eu estou promovendo políticas discriminatórias e nocivas ao corpo social por lucro, fé ou simples diversão, mas não estou". Justificar seus crimes perante a sociedade requer uma inversão completa da verdade, mesmo que isso signifique jurar em frente às câmeras que água flui pra cima e que o céu é verde. A fé (ou melhor, a demonstração de fé) é mais importante que o fato, pois o reacionarismo, sendo irracional, depende nos fenômenos que podem ser agrupados como efeito manada. Vide também a função da Skynet de fazer parecer que um presidente que não sabe beber água sem babar é algo apoiado por brasilhões de brasileiros, então pare de nutrir dúvidas, gad
>>124817
Este arquivo é mais voltado pro movimento operário como um todo. Se bem o PCB original estava cheio de anarquistas.

https://www.ael.ifch.unicamp.br/

>>124015
>queria marcola presidente
Pelo amor de Deus, diga-me que isso é uma piada.
>>124817
>escritos dos integrantes do primeiro PCB
Artigos de alguns fundadores do PCB:
https://www.marxists.org/portugues/leuenroth/index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/portugues/basbaum/index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/portugues/brandao/index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/portugues/astrojildo/index.htm

Livros desses mesmos autores:
Leôncio Basbaum - Coleção História Sincera da República
Leôncio Basbaum - Uma vida em seis tempos: memórias
Leôncio Basbaum - Historia e consciência social: das conexões entre a psicologia, a sociologia e a história
Octávio Brandão - Agrarismo e industrialismo: ensaio marxista-leninista sobre a revolta de São Paulo e a guerra de classes no Brasil
Octávio Brandão - Combates e batalhas: memórias
Octávio Brandão - Canais e lagoas
Astrojildo Pereira - Formação do PCB, 1922/1928: notas e documentos
Astrojildo Pereira - Ensaios históricos e políticos

Also, tem uma coleção antigaça da falecida editora ciências humanas chamada "Memória e História" onde eles fizeram um apanhado de documentos e arquivos do PCB.

>assim como os escritos de algumas pessoas que se diziam socialistas na época de 1800,
O Faivre publicou um livro sobre a colônia Teresa Cristina, que acredito ter sido a primeira promoção de ideias socialistas no país, Giovanni Rossi, que fundou a colônia Cecilia, também publicou alguns livros, fora isso é meio difícil, antes do século XIX nem anarquistas tinha direito no país.
Newfag aqui, algum material sobre o fiasco do serviço de inteligência tcheco que os retardados adoram papagaiar como se fosse algo sério?
>>125614
Precisamos de mais detalhes sobre o que exatamente você quer desmentir, pois a tática desses pulhas é falar merda sem parar.

No geral, este bicho-papão depende, como muitos, da completa ignorância do público-alvo em determinado assunto. Neste caso, ironicamente, eles não sabem nada de inteligência. Acham que a existência de um punhado de agentes estrangeiros em um dos países mais populosos do mundo é algo raro e gravíssimo, prova inegável de que estávamos na iminência do golpe comunista que até hoje não saiu do forno. Enquanto isso, nosso presidente e ministro da justiça quase que literalmente batem ponto no QG da CIA, e esses retardados acham normal. Comparar a parca atuação comunista estrangeira aqui com a orgia nonstop de agentes estadunidenses (pra não falar na submissão freudiana de nossas zelite frente a qualquer gringo) é melhor que desmentir fatos particulares.

A teoria da direita praticamente nasceu e morreu com Burke. Desde então, a "teoria" dela é simples gerenciamento de desinformação.
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>>125831
E na googleagem sobre o assunto, olha só o que encontro. Uma das incontáveis postagens semi-apócrifas em blogs gratuitos que conhecemos bem. Mais comum que mato, mas este mostra uma conexão importante. O post é a tradução de uma suposta entrevista feita por um veículo chamado The Epoch Times. Você pode reparar, logo de cara, no estranho título, que, se não é incongruente, é, ao menos, em Engrish. Pois então, TET é um dos infinitos frontes da direita global atual, pertencente à Falun Dafa/Gong/sei-lá-o-que. Ela é parte dessa aliança profana que une a reaçada chinesa a libertarianos, criptofascistas, dispensionalistas (detalhe importante: são cristãos pirados que literalmente querem iniciar o Armagedom), operadores sauditas, israelenses etc., trumpistas e muitas outras subespécies da ala direita dos donos do mundo.

O nível é exatamente o que você esperaria: https://www.epochtimes.com.br/o-romance-corrupto-entre-grandes-empresas-e-o-socialismo/

O site brasileiro não é (creio) popular, mas mostra bem essa confluência nefasta. Número desproporcional de artigos negativos sobre a China, besteirol reaça com um distinto sabor Qanon via Google Translate (convolver megacorporações e socialismo é prova cabal de que tem gringo por trás), uma ou outra nota sobre Olavo ou Terça Livre (que, aliás, é do círculo interno do dito-cujo), vários artigos dando um lustre nas chongas que o governo do Bozo faz, e por aí vai.

Parece teoria da conspiração, eu sei, mas é a triste verdade. É com eles que a ala "esquerda" dos donos do mundo, representada pela grande mídia internacional, especialmente a americana, troca tapas. É claro que a luta de classes sempre prevalece, e, quando tem interesses em jogo, os donos se unem. Um exemplo da disputa é o eterno (e ineficiente) choramingo da imprensa gringa sobre Trump, e da união, o fiasco em Hong Kong. Eis aqui um artigo de peso imcompreensível, mas que passa quase despercebido nestes dias. Se bem que, pra falar a verdade, não atriria muita atenção antes, também.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121

Uma raríssima mostra do gerador de ruído da direita global, em plena grande mídia gringa. Como uma pedra preciosa ignorada porque quase ninguém sabe o seu verdadeiro valor.

Há muito a ser dito sobre essa "magna corja", inclusive o pequeno fato de almejarem iniciar o apocalipse bíblico, mas isso é assunto pra bibliotecas inteiros. Deixo aqui o que, creio, é o fator que conecta mais partes dessa gangue, e, creio eu, a melhor maneira de referir-se ao vasto e vago grupo: Atlas Network. É só botar no Google e ver a bosta fluindo pelo monitor.

Aproveito a deixa para fazer mais uma observação sobre a mentalidade direitista. A prática imaterial dela sempre se resume a enganar. Como vivo falando, ela precisa ser dissimulada, pois suas verdadeiras intenções são abomináveis. Mas o que eu acho mais interessante nisso é como essa característica central dela influencia toda sua prática, no sentido que ela não apenas engana, mas busca enganar ao máximo, por assim dizer. Não só espalhar versões falsas dos fatos, mas completas inversões da verdade. Nesta época em que ela está perdendo vergonha, podemos ver com mais clareza, nos fatos de, por exemplo, canalhas comprovados serem Cidadãos de Bem e derrubar uma democracia é proteger a democracia.
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>>125901
Aproveito a deixa para fazer mais uma observação sobre a mentalidade direitista. A prática imaterial dela sempre se resume a enganar. Como vivo falando, ela precisa ser dissimulada, pois suas verdadeiras intenções são abomináveis. Mas o que eu acho mais interessante nisso é como essa característica central dela influencia toda sua prática, no sentido que ela não apenas engana, mas busca enganar ao máximo, por assim dizer. Não só espalhar versões falsas dos fatos, mas completas inversões da verdade. Nesta época em que ela está perdendo vergonha, podemos ver com mais clareza, nos fatos de, por exemplo, canalhas comprovados serem Cidadãos de Bem e derrubar uma democracia é proteger a democracia.

Mas acho que a manifestação mais curiosa dessa dissimulação fundamental dela é que ela possui tendência e talento para culpar seus inimigos por todo o mal que ela mesma faz. Já começa bem exemplificada pelo fato da esquerda levar a fama de subversiva, quando a história do século XX mostra o exato oposto; a esquerda tende a ser resistência aberta, enquanto que o maior ato subversivo da história foi o desmanche da URSS. Até a palavra "golpe" está meio atrelada a "baderneiros" de esquerda, o que, novamente, é uma inversão perfeita dos fatos. Acho que foi Fredrik Deboer quem me deu um insight de valor inestimável ao explicitar que o modus operandi histórico da direita consiste em identificar as contradições do sistema e jogar a culpa pelos problemas que elas causam nos seus inimigos. Dois coelhos com uma cajadada. E dá-lhe coelhos ao longo dos séculos. É possível ler sobre aplicação desse método em praticamente todo grupo que um dia foi considerado indesejável: judeus, negros, feministas, muçulmanos, imigrantes etc., e isso pra ficar só nos exemplos dos alvos mais internacionalizados. E, é claro, a esquerda é culpada, sempre pode ser culpada, independente da acusação. Ter percebido esse "inversionismo", aliás, foi talvez a primeira coisa que me fez pensar no direitismo como patologia. É um fator claro e comum na identificação dos afligidos que pareceu-me análogo ao disgnóstico de esquizofrenia. Independente do local e época, os sintomas esquizofrênicos formam um quadro quase universal. Direitismo, então, nem se fala. Que maior evidência de que é uma síndrome psicológica do que uma obsessão em literalmente causar o fim do mundo?
>>125831
>>125901
>>125902
Tri bom o teus posts, mas acho que tu não ta se referindo ao que o >>125831 tava querendo falar, pela descrição ele me parece remeter a um punhado de livros conspiratórios lançados pela vide editorial. Traduções de reacionarios do leste europeu e um ou outro brasileiro que "sabe" a lingua.
Em particular acho que ele se refere a dois titulos "1964. O Elo Perdido. O Brasil nos Arquivos do Serviço Secreto Comunista" e "A Kgb E A Desinformação Soviética — Uma Visão Em Primeira Mão". Eu não tenho o costume de consumir chorume, se algum outro anão quiser e puder, que o faça.
>>125831
O que eu quero saber tá referenciado em >>126000, os livros sobre a suposta atuação da URSS no Brasil. Esse assunto é um tanto usado como argumento por aqueles que pretendem justificar o golpe de 64 em vista da presença de "espiões tchecos" no Rio de Janeiro.

Até o momento não encontrei nenhum material que desconstrua esse bicho-papão e o exponha como a desinformação que é.
>>126108
>>126000
Bom, de fato houve alguma atuação de agentes estrangeiros. Isso é inegável. Mas os pormenores não significam nada pra essa renca de manés. Pra eles, um agente da KGB fazer escala em aeroporto brasileiro é motivo mais que suficiente pra golpe. Por isso sugiro usar de meta-argumentação, e fazê-los sentirem-se completamente desinformados e iludidos sobre o tópico. O que eles são, afinal de contas.
Saging for offtopic crap, but can someone tell me how the fuck is anyone supposed to find anything in Zuckbook that isn't someone they already know in real life? It's fucking impossible to specify a search for any god damn thing, be it people, businesses, topics, whatever the fuck. It's like some silly custom where you write down a word on a piece of paper, fold it and throw it down a wishing well, hoping something will happen which hopefully will involve that thing. I see people saying to to dig around and I'll be able to find people selling certain merchandise wink-wink-nudge-nudge, and I somehow manage to find those in other Latin countries but not here, damn it.
>>126988
I'll have to actually agree with him on that. Or rather, they have to do a self-critique, but they're the ones in this entire country who least ought to do it. They owe an explanation about their corruption and abandoning their leftist base, yet the first one was nothing by Brazilian standards -- even as the ruling party, PT was, at worst, the 4th most corrupt one -- and let's face it, no one but we in the far left even consider the second thing to be a thing. At the end of the day, they were the victim in this tragicomedy, and you just plain don't apologize for anything when you're in that position. If only Lula had been convicted for shit he actually did, then yes, a self-critique would be not only helpful but maybe even necessary to start reconstructing the country. As it stands, PT, and especially Lula, were targeted by one of the most successful subversion campaigns in recorded history. Even just in terms of Realpolitik, you just plain don't apologize for literally getting couped twice and imprisoned.

You're probably thinking, if PT just got done with this self-critique shit once and for all, the media would fucking stop their hypocritical moral grandstanding. And that would be correct, but it would also be, whether they like it or not, them admitting to all the downright delirious charges heaped upon them. The media would stop implying "well looks like those thieves still haven't repented" only to start saying "finally, now this country can move past this criminal organization that was once undeservedly in power". That self-critique would be the epitaph on PT's tombstone.

When and if the porkies even so much as tacitly acknowledge this fiasco even took place at all, PT should start considering doing their mea culpa. Until then, as far as the entire country but us in the far left corner is concerned, PT did nothing wrong.
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>>127761
Deixa de ser otário. Claramente não é ela, além disso ser um tipo de fake news muito utilizado por qualquer mongol.
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>>127790
Não cabe a mim julgar. Estou apenas compartilhando.
>>127912
Mas é um imbecil mesmo.
https://twitter.com/joshua__frank/status/1195394177070092289
>Reports that pro-Evo protesters have taken over a police weapons depot in the Alto area. Police there surrendered. Now they are moving to La Paz, where police say they don’t want armed confrontation.
Tomar um arsenal de polícia e dizer pra ela que não quer conflito. A esquerda brasileira está fazendo escola.

Falando sério, há grupos armados de camponeses. Baseados.
https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/status/1194478995460558850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBpC0lSYeeQ

1 hour of 60s brazilian doomer music
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pfffftt hahahaha jesus christ that invasion in the Venezuelan embassy is so god damn ridiculous

Seriously, what did Guaidó's dogs expect would happen? What advantage could that possibly bring them? Embassies are the epitome of neutral ground principle, and that's part of the whole point. They're a sort of unique legal entities, which every country treats as such for the sake of compromise. Everyone tolerates these weird, badly-defined singularity in their territories, and other countries do the same for them, as an initial token of mutual respect and acknowledgment. Violating their sanctity is quite literally grounds for war. And then along come these imperialist idiots working for the most pathetic excuse for a colonial puppet to ever live, and not only do they violate that sanctity, but they do it to an embassy of their own country. It's baffling. It makes no sense. If the news didn't explicitly say they're on Guaidó's side, I would never be able to guess which one they're on, because there's no reason for any side to do this. And to drive the retardation up to the speed of 2019 Brazil, they do it in one of the few countries which still (stupidly) recognizes Guaidó as Venezuelan president. Even Bozo's circus shat on them. This is so nonsensical I can't even come up with a metaphor.

And it can always get more insane. The head of this invasion met twice with Mourão, on April 15 and July 24. He's a self-proclaimed councillor-minister. Seriously. Now I'm amused by the selection process for the offices serving under a self-proclaimed president. Does the latter get to appoint anyone or does he have to work with whomever self-declares minister as well? The woes of neodemocracy.
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O site da Veja parece destacar bem os fatos importantes que são completamente ignorados nesta era pós-pós-moderna. O curioso é que nem a própria revista parece dar a devida gravidade a elas. Apenas as noticia "objetivamente".

De qualquer modo, uma olhada rápida agora traz as seguintes mazelas. Pica relatada, Veja continua vejando.

>Prefeitura de São Bernardo executa Lula em R$ 50 mil por obra irregular
Adivinha qual o partido do prefeito. Dica: lembre-se que as últimas eleições municipais ocorreram antes da ascensão do PSL.

>Quem é o “Zero Seis”, o novo queridinho de Bolsonaro
>Jorge Seif Júnior, o secretário de Aquicultura e Pesca, virou o campeão de aparições nas 'lives' do presidente
>No auge da crise ambiental que assola as praias, Jorge Seif Júnior teve uma grande oportunidade de demonstrar aos brasileiros para que serve, afinal, o departamento do governo que está aos seus cuidados, a Secretaria de Aquicultura e Pesca. Em vez de discutir seriamente medidas que podem ser tomadas para minimizar os estragos provocados pelo vazamento de combustível na vida marinha, acabou engrossando o folclore com uma declaração digna de um bagre político. “O peixe é um bicho inteligente e, quando vê a manta de óleo, foge porque tem medo”, disse ele, durante uma live com o presidente Bolsonaro transmitida em 31 de outubro, jogando sobre as escamas de anchovas, tainhas e manjubas, entre outras espécies, a responsabilidade de se desviar do problema.
Com a imbecilidade no poder, arrivistas fingem ser imbecis para serem recompensados. E é quase impossíveis distinguir entre os farsantes e os verdadeiros.

>General sai em defesa de Bebianno e vira alvo de bolsonaristas nas redes
>Paulo Chagas diz que Bebbiano foi um "pitbull" na defesa de Bolsonaro e que virou um bode expiatório
Racha na festa do pijama continua aprofundando-se. Absolutamente ninguém fez tanto contra Bolsonaro do que o Carlito, e digo isso sem um pingo de sarcasmo.

>TCU quer acesso ao pacote de conversas de Deltan na Vaza-Jato
Opa, será que finalmente alguma autoridade dará ouvidos às revelações da Vaza Jato? A conspiração que matou a democracia brasileira será investigada? Não, o TCU está preocupado com o fato da LJ tem atuado especificamente contra ele: "No último dia 30, o TCU fez uma sessão secreta sobre as mensagens vazadas da Lava-Jato que detonam o tribunal. A Corte quer ter acesso ao pacote completo das conversas de Dallagnol."
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Por que a esquerda brasileira é uma bosta:
Confusão rolando por conta do lançamento da Jacobin Brasil. Pessoal reclamando que na capa da revista aparece o Stalin (é uma sátira) e que há um artigo feito por um defensor do mesmo (é o jones manoel). Tem até gente tentando falar com os editores lá de fora para cancelar o lançamento da revista aqui.

É a esquerda gastando a sua força nessa besteira. Fico pensando, ontem foi descoberto o corpo jogado em uma vala de uma criança de 14 anos, dias desaparecida após uma abordagem policial no estado de São Paulo. O que essa esquerda está fazendo quanto a isso?

A capa da revista em anexo.
>>129058
>Jacobin's spread to brazil
I apologize on behalf of the entire US
>>129078
Is Jacobin the most popular """""socialist"""""" news media in USA?


quotations because the guy running it is a bourgie asshole
>>129085
>bourgie asshole

Honestly that does not mean he cannot do the cause good
>>129085
>Is Jacobin the most popular """""socialist"""""" news media in USA?
Yeah, it's the DSA mouthpiece
>>129091
The time of men like Engels is over
>>129085
WSWS guy is also a business owner who refuses to turn his workplace into a worker coop.
>>129078
In all honesty, Jacobin is well to the left of mainstream parties in both countries. I gladly welcome them, because, as the post you quoted says, they actually have Stalin defenders among their staff, and LARPers are REEEEEing about his presence on the cover and trying to get the US publication to cancel it or something kek

>>129114
There's a big discussion to be had on that whole concept. Coops do have an inevitable problem in that they are sort of subverted in by default in capitalism. There're no legal mechanisms to keep it from being steered away from its goal and becoming a common company in practice, and, as materialism dictates, it does tend to go that way. Take WSWS, for example. For all its faults, it's dedicated to its cause because its owner is as well. Should the ownership or management be collectivized, it will open the door for vultures. And the thing is, simply existing in a profit-centered market would tend to drive it towards common, profit-centered enterprise.
>>129133
>There're no legal mechanisms to keep it from being steered away from its goal and becoming a common company in practice, and, as materialism dictates, it does tend to go that way.
Gonna need some clear examples for this claim because it sounds like total bullshit. Why would workers ever vote to install a workplace king and give up their rights?
>>128946
O tropicalismo era mesmo avançado pra época
>>126108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzcLFpPDu0k

esse video faz um bom trabalho refutando a justificação do golpe de 64 e as teorias esquizofrenicas do filme do Brasil Paralelo(é so pode ser paralelo,ele vivem em outra realidade).

basicamente os propios espiões tchecas disseram que eram impossivel ter uma revolução no Brasil porque a esquerda brasileira era muito bagunçada e não se tinha muita revolta de classes.
>ancap retards calling for the privatization of STF

I support libertarians for the sole purpose that they will accelerate the destruction of this nation.
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Há 3 grandes escolas jurídicas no mundo atual: a napoleônica, a germânica, e a HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
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Ótimo vídeo, obrigado.
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>>128952
What happened to my man on the right here, is he in jail? I hope he is alright
<Guedes says they're considering a free trade area with China
Come again? Oh, the ministry soon said it's not happening anyway.

<Brazil and Venezuela elected to the UN commission on human rights
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>>130923
Considering how hopelessly overloaded our penal system is, I'd say that fisticuffs without permanent harm probably don't warrant anything worse than a few hours of community service, if at all. I figure third world cops have a higher threshold of "crimeness" to which they'll react.

As another example, here are the local Trots convincing a porky youth group to cease their protests in front of the Cuban embassy. Notice the policemen looking on. Also, now that I think about it, the guy you posted might be part of these Trots, they assembled at the Venezuelan embassy as well.
So then, given how suddenly Bolivia collapsed into an open, Cold War-style coup, does anyone still have any doubt that Bozo would have done the same thing already if he had a chance?
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We hit a historical milestone yesterday! Congrats lads, we only have to take Dilma down some 8 more times or so and we're set.
>>132794
Dude nice
Pindorama News Service

Nice TIBR news fresh from the oven: https://theintercept.com/2019/11/19/fake-news-google-blogueiros-antipetistas/
<Google helped, and profited from, anti-PT shills
gee who woulda thunk porky would profit from tragedy

<WhatsApp bans over 400k accounts supposedly involved in niggotry in the BR 2018 elections
th-thanks, now we just need to do the election over again

<Mamão Falei purged from DEM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA and he threw his hat in the ring for São Paulo mayorship, tough shit bucko

<thanks to salt-mining for 40 years, Braskem is victimizing 40000 people in Maceió accross 3 neighborhoods, one of which is literally sinking into the ground
Nice example of privatization of profits and socialization of losses. Not that we needed any more.

Speaking of ecological tragedies
<it was discovered that Vale knew about the risks at Sobradinho, but just plain didn't give a shit
And that's that. 250 people due to corporate greed, no two ways about it. An open and shut case of capitalist crime, and the perps are completely identified. And all it gets is a note in the middle of section B of the newspapers. See what I mean about losing the capacity for indignation? And about the people being incapable of reaching any conclusions which the media doesn't straight-up tell them? This is civilizational decay, plain and simple. On hindsight, I suppose that its related to the epidemic of depression and alienation, because they are all united by the dissolution of the ties that bind people together.
>>132938
>Sobradinho
oops, Brumadinho
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CINQÜENTA E SEIS PORCENTO
You know what probably is the biggest and most easily avoidable Lula and his allies have been making? Among the slogans and rallying cries they hacve, none of them say "Lula is innocent" or "Moro is a traitor". This might not seem like much, but I think it actually makes a huge difference. Messages like these would drive home the core issue, which is that Lula is not guilty of the things of which it was convicted, and that Moro is bound to eternity in the 9th circle of hell, home of those guilty of betrayal. Here in our bunker, we're well aware that Moro is a cunt and a half for multiple reasons, but I think not even we truly appreciate the scale of his crimes. Providing ammo for Dilma's coupeachment and arresting Lula just in time for the elections were just two parts of a much larger project, which, it's important to remember, involves Uncle Sam's alphabet soup. He and his boss reported to the CIA, among other American agencies, at least twice this year alone, the very same people who just helped stage a Cold War-type coup out of fucking nowhere and with reasoning even more spurious than ever. Can you imagine the stink that any other country would raise about this? Or even our media would, had it happened with Lula or Dilma? True to the spirit of the times, the most significant events in this fallen age are the ones which attract the last attention -- see Toffoli's meeting with the brass, the oil field auctions handouts, the massive sum owed by lanowners being pardoned etc., and Bozo and Moro punching their cards at Langley just might be the biggest example. It's ridiculous, we have a government which is almost explicitly servile to an imperial power, and they managed to reach power without CIA-level foul play. Moro is the biggest traitor in Brazilian history, by a huge margin, no doubts about it. Cabo Anselmo, Calabar, Joaquim Silvério dos Reis, none of them come even close. Have you stopped to consider this? It's fair to say that, while his public reputation doesn't fully reflect the sins he committed, Brazil is not out of the post-post-modern age. Even if Bozo gets an early retirement, Lula gets re-elected, the old scum feign a smile when talking about a "government of national union", which is just about the most rosy scenario possible, we still wouldn't be out of this strange situation, where the public conscious and unconscious both seem broken and the people are putty in the hands of mass media. Even if Lula is fully redeemed, Moro still has to be damned for this morbid symptom to end (And Bolsonaro too, but that hardly needs saying).
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Ministers talking about bringing the republic like it's nothing get less attention than the horoscope, an open coup in Bolivia is a democratic transition with non-violent murders, and the death of a TV presenter is a national tragedy mourned by the entire establishment and will monopolize the entire national news for days.

I had been thinking of writing a multiple-part post about modern mass media being the factor which categorically prevents and will keep preventing revolution from taking place before the complete and cataclysmic collapse of capitalism, but I think the paragraph above sums it up well enough. As we say, understanders will understand.
>>133173
How relevant are them?
In light of the events in Bolivia, I fear I must review my prognosis of a coup having been fully averted. Their armed forces barely were involved. They just had sit on their asses, and the police and a few connected wannabe paramilitaries took care of nearly everything.

I feel like saying that the Brazilian police forces aren't on that level of bullshit, but then again, I had no idea what the situation looked like in Bolivia before the coup. It seems to have erupted from nothing. And that's when it hit me: with people so divorced from political practice, it makes sense that a coup requires rather few armed enforcers. Police and vigilantes alone can be enough. The most valuable insights are always the ones which seem obvious in hindsight, aren't they? At any rate, even if the police forces in Brazil don't seem to be up to such hijinx, the Rio filth most definitely seem to be. With the psycho-governor in charge, the militias, already the biggest criminal organization in the state, grew astronomically. Altho not essentially political entities, they don't need to be, these days. It suffices that they're engaged and they're armed. Even if their primary goal is just crime, they might be able to make a successful coup simply because no one would stand against them. Hell, one of the old narco syndicates could stage a coup in these circumstances, if they hadn't been almost completely supplanted by the militias. And the latter have the big, big advantage of one of their own being in charge of an entire state, and the governor's psychopathy is undistinguishable from modern reactionarism because neither of them consider anything but odds of suffering consequences whenever calculating their courses of action. Using Rio alone as a springboard to a national coup is a long shot, until you consider two facts. One, the aforementioned popular apathy. Two, it's in the reactionary's nature to shit everything up forever always everywhere.

I suppose the army might stage a reaction should the worst happen, but then again, the second fact mentioned above applies to them as well. Between the circus' attempts at wooing the enlisted, the circus' utter incompetence at everything, anti-Bozo officers having shown their availability for a coup of some kind, pro-Bozo officers no doubt having wet dreams about staging their own coup, and the armed forces having seemingly shed the last vestiges of national pride they had, it's impossible to hazard a guess at how they would react, if at all, to a putsch attempt in Rio. And like in Bolivia, them sitting on their asses might be all it takes for a state's worth of rotten policemen to take power. Usually, I'd have said the odds of a putsch staged out of a single state would be zero, but we're well outside of normal parameters now.

My sincere advice to all of you who live in Rio or have relatives or friends living there: consider leaving the state as soon as possible. The chances of an actual coup are still slim, but the odds of something happening in that state won't stop rising.

>>136795
As far as I can tell, the only influence they exhert on anything is Newton's law of universal gravitation. I think they present a very interesting contrast here. You see, they're actually politically engaged, whereas the worldwide rightwing surge is reactionarism down to its naked form: a flare-up of a mental disorder, with just enough pretensions at political ideology for that pathological nature not to become impossible to ignore. All reactionaries are fundamentally hypocrites (I hope to make an effortpost about this another day) affected by genuine doublethink (as opposed to simple compartmentalization), but fascists at least try to live up to their spookery, whereas, in a way, the new right has transcended spookery without actually getting rid of it. True to its nature, it has no qualms about spouting spooks while ignoring them without thinking. A pathology shed of all but the most basic pretensions at legitimacy.
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Acho que nunca vi tantas figuras de linguagem se encaixarem tão perfeitamente.
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>>129058
Falando de Jones Manoel, visitem o perfil dele, @_makavelijones. Ele não usa lá muito (sinal de sabedoria), mas o que ele escreve, vale a pena. É o secretário-geral do partido bolchefit brasileiro.

inb4 BRAZZERS
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Ei galera, voltamos com a /expropriado/!

https://8channel.net/expropriado/
>>140521
Hmmm, qual a procedência desse novo 8chan? Depois da minhoca amarela no logo do 8kun, nunca se sabe...
>>140732

Não faço a menor ideia. Se pudéssemos hostear em outro lugar, hostearíamos com muito prazer, mas por enquanto é o que está dando.

A maioria das boards brasileiras do 8chan migraram pra lá, então presumo que o site seja suficientemente estável.
>>140812
Pra falar a verdade, eu tenho pensado em iniciar uma tábua de política nacional com umas firulas inovadoras, pra evitar os erros dos formatos de comunidades e redes sociais atuais e tentar desdesinformar a ala idiota do bolsonarismo. Hesito porque tenho o péssimo hábito de ter intenso interesse passageiro em algo para abandoná-la pouco depois.
>>136849
What Rio has to do with anything? I don't understand the connection. And sure, I would love to leave from here. Are you paying for me to go?
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=LULA FEZ AS PESSOAS TERRAPLANISTAS=
>https://noticias.uol.com.br/politica/ultimas-noticias/2019/11/27/mpf-liga-acusacoes-contra-lula-no-caso-do-sitio-a-defesa-de-ditadores.htm#click=https://t.co/9Dqu3fyaxt
Velho, nem sei o que falar. Essa merda deixou de qualquer verosimilhança faz tempos.
>>140887
Besides the sorry current state of the metro area, the problem is the governor. He's a literal psychopath, the kind that doesn't realize he's giving it away by speaking entirely too often about sniping people, participating in those murderous helicopter raids and several other, minor clues hinting at his lack of attachment to reality. As seems to be the norm with the scum in Rio state, he's buttbuddies with the militias just like Bozo, and they have grown in power even faster than they already were. Even closed condo of army personnel has to pay protection to them. The fucking army. I say it's entirely possible he tries to stage an armed... something.

You're probably thinking, why the fuck would he try to pull some shit like this? Odds are that he would be squashed by the military. And to that I say, again, he's nuts. Surely you agree that he would have no moral qualms about gathering the militias to stage one huge pogrom on Rio's suburbs and favelas? I can't possibly try to guess what goes in that twisted brain of his, but all elements point towards him pulling some bullshit if he thinks the opportunity is there, and what he thinks an opportunity looks like might be far, far different from what we think. And besides, given the events in Bolivia, who's to say that this one madman attempting a putsch won't inspire others like him, especially in the military.

I'd say the most risky point would be when and if Congress and STF remove Bozo and his veep, like I have been predicting. Bozo has completely squandered his chances of staging a coup by himself, and he has nowhere near the popularity to stage a coup to defend himself. But one insane governor backed by an army of militiamen just might try something to defend the circus from Congress and STF, and even if that alone is unlikely to be enough to triumph, it can inspire other cunts to join in, especially with the incessant radicalization that Bozo foists on his base. If he calls for a rebellion to keep him from being impeached in the name of God and democracy and whatever, he just might get enough support to win, because of how politically inactive the citizenry is. That's the lesson Bolivia tells us. They didn't even need the army to stage a coup, just the bulk of police forces was enough, because there was hardly any peaceful mobilization for Evo, despite him having the majority support. The old cliche that says "all it takes for evil to win is for the good to do nothing" is true, and evil is quite proactive lately, to say the least.
>>141566
Oh, another thing I forgot. Witzel is also in deep with LJ, as obviously is Bozo. It's another rallying point for his base of cretins and sociopaths, not to mention whatever support Moro can drum up by himself. "They're trying to undo the biggest anti-corruption campaign EVER! Lula is the biggest thief in history and he's staging a coup! Muh corruption! Muh Bible! Muh Trump!"
>>141334
Pois é, eis o resultado da campanha anti-PT. A lógica não se aplica mais. Se bem que o problema nem é esse cinismo atroz da reacionaria em inventar qualquer merda pra culpar o Lula. Ela nunca teve limites. A anormalidade da situação é que essas acusações delirantes circulam como se fossem fatos. As merdas que antes eram contidas a colunas da Veja e spam de zap são agora consideradas senso comum, graças à campanha anti-PT, apesar da ausência de fatos. Mas aí a corja (até então, sem divisão entre velha e nova) forçou a barra e, ao tentar escrever uma hiper-realidade que é o exato oposto da realidade, deu um tilt em algo e causou esta "oninormalização".

Note como isso exemplifica perfeitamente o comportamento naturalmente subversivo da direita. Neste caso, jogando a culpa na vítima. Parece-me que toda a retórica direitista consiste de inversões. A esquerda enuncia fatos a cria avanços, a direita os distorce e rouba.

Realço um detalhe importante. As tais acusações delirantes, antes relativamente contidas aos piores dos piores anti-lulistas, permaneceram sem punição. O que não é de se surpreender, pois a democracia burguesa é projetada para isso, para que a burguesia possa criar sua hiper-realidade desimpedida. Todos sabemos que leis anti-difamação são, na melhor das hipóteses, um placebo, e medidas anti-estelionato (uso o termo no sentido amplo, de mentir em ganho próprio simplesmente nunca existiram. Eu diria que essa impunidade foi percebida pela corja, que percebeu o poder que tinha, e passou a usar essas difamações grotescas como moeda de troca comum na imprensa. Aliás, acumulamos mais de 500 anos de impunidade, um detalhe que diz muita coisa. Não é a toa que nossa burguesia se sentiu foderosa a ponto de tentar inverter a realidade. Isto me leva a uma das conclusões que tenho repetido aqui, de que será necessário combater o estelionato generalizado. Enfim, combater a mentira. É um território perigosíssimo para qualquer democracia, representativa, participativa, soviética ou o que for, mas a reacionaria tornou isso uma necessidade. Temo que até a democracia burguesa precisará adotar esse paradigma para sobreviver aos ataques da própria burguesia, e, mesmo que isso não ocorra, o socialismo não terá escolha senão incorporar. Aí há o paralelo da inevitabilidade da imposição de identificação permanente pra se usar a internet. É questão de tempo, pois sendo abusada pela escumalha global como ela está, não será mais utilizável por muito tempo.

Acho que o ponto mais claro foi durante a sessão do STJ sobre uma das ações contra Lula, em abril. Jorge Mussi falou, sem um pingo de ironia, que o fato do triplex nunca ter sido transferido para Lula configura lavagem de dinheiro. A ausência de evidência é usada como evidência. Presunção de culpa em estado bruto. A culpa de Lula é o ponto de partida para criar narrativas que a reforcem.

Embora creio que o STJ tenha entrado no esquema da velha corja e esteja, agora, participando do desmanche da LJ: https://jornalggn.com.br/justica/stj-aceita-pedido-de-lula-e-julgamento-do-sitio-de-atibaia-e-suspenso-no-trf-4/

Falando em Nassif, ele escreveu esta coluna interessante. Nunca percebi uma ligação de Cunha com a horda evangélica, mas isso explica muita coisa. Além de criar uma conexão com a corja estadunidense responsável por essa praga.
https://jornalggn.com.br/noticia/xadrez-da-logica-economica-e-politica-dos-neopentecostais-por-luis-nassif/
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Dólar batendo novo recorde! Vamos comemorar com umas lembranças dos cansados. Quantas vezes será que eles já foram pra Disney desde então?

Carne vermelha subindo no país inteiro, e o mentecapto choraminga sobre reserva indígena no cu do mundo. O fato dele ter público pra quem bostejar é prova de que gado tem de sobra, o que falta é abate.

E combustível sobe pela segunda vez em dez dias, mas o diesel não. Que coisa. 🤔
Hahahahaha that Sérgio de Camargo guy appointed to some black culture organization is yet another internet stooge. He tweets all day long all the bullshit the American right has been vomiting for decades. I could swear he was a fake because his profile picture clearly had the color of his shirt shooped. Turns out he shooped a picture of himself for some reason, I'm guessing to avoid GRIS. Well I think it was @bolsoregrets who seems to have found the original picture, and located an old post of Sérgio thirsting over a tranny on her blog WEW LAD
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>>142581
Oh yeah, and of course, pic related.
Why are Brazilian right wingers so fucking retarded? They're on par with American right wingers
>>142581
Remember that he is another one with daddy issues, his father, Oswaldo de Camargo, is probably one of the bigger figures in black brazilian lit. I'm pretty sure having oedipical issues are one of the markings of the nacional-taxismo(just as reich described).
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Well this got longer than I expected. I guess the answer I was typing dived into a few other things I had been writing down, so I ended up pouring it out. Tell me what you think. In fact, I ask you guys to tell me more often what you make of my spiels. For all I know, I'm making Rui Costa Pimenta seem the apex of good sense and I don't realize it.

>>142590
They never had high standards, but I have a bit of a theory about it. Concurrent with the anti-PT campaign (I can't tell if it was a coincidence, if they were inextricably tied together or even if they're one and the same thing, but still) the media well and truly degenerated all elements of our society, in the way the old fashies meant, not the sex-obsessed fashies today think it is. It has deprived people of culture, by depriving them of the capacity to create while flooding them with foreign culture. I wrote before about how the Brazilian people seems to have become unable to judge facts and deduce or induce new information from old information here: >>118031. I've been thinking that incapacity to create information entails incapacity to create culture, then I looked at the state of pop culture, mass media and welp.

Let's review it a bit. On broadcast TV, the old and terrible auditory shows seems to have given way to far more terrible crime reporting, a prime vector for pathological reactionaries to spread their hypocrisy. Arguably, the death of children's programming helped expose them to this shit, among other types. (Incidentally, I've heard plenty of people complaining about this, but none who noticed that, if there's no profit in it, children and just plain abandoned. See also the need to finance cultural activities.) National works, as always, boil down to soap operas and the occasional mini-series on Globo. Foreign programming of the worst quality and lowest cost possible seem to have increased, despite that one law forcing them to show something that isn't canned US refuse. And if I'm going to be honest, the quality of foreign programming itself also decreased around the globe, as part of capitalism's drive to the bottom.

Which brings me to music, of which there's little, because it feels like it has been completely taken over by assembly-line, created-by-committee "sertanejo universitário" and "forró universitário" which are undistinguishable from each other yet are nothing alike sertanejo nor forró. All guys with fucking identical voices singing identical hackeneyed lyrics about relationships, and women with grave voices which, not coincidentally, sound exactly like the black divas who hog the music scene in America. Even their fucking names are generic, I swear I can't tell them apart.
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>>142791
As for cultural events, it boils down to performances by these hacks and American movies and... that's about it. And the, I don't know quite how to put into words, the mentality of the people has been dominated by a Frankenstein's monster of evagelicism, coach culture, multi-level marketing, cult of entrepreneurship, everyone are writerers (I love this term; it refers to these supposed writers who no one ever heard of but seem to make a living doing nothing but speeches and workshops about how to be a writer) of something and there are all manner of incestuous scams involving "quantum vibrations to actualize the timeline in which your success is optimal". On second thought, this isn't a Frankenstein's monster at all, because they're all intimately related. I have no doubt that it has all been part of a deliberate cultural domination strategy executed by Atlas Networks and the like. I guess it's what is being called "hybrid warfare" nowadays, which honestly sounds itself like a foreign, pointless term to something that has long existed. Nonetheless, this charlatanism market has reached such a level that coaching might be banned, and there are talks to ban the abuse of the term "quantic" as well.

This is another aspect that seems to make our current scenario a completely new and unpredictable morbid symptom. It wasn't enough to dumb the people down, Porky had to deprive the dumb people from culture and knowledge as well. The golden age of Brazilian music from decades past? Gone. Modern rock and pagode bands? Gone. Brazilian humor shows? Almost gone, soon to be replaced by stand-up comedians and American shows. That brief national identity of a people finally starting to get its shit together and take its place in the world scene? Gone. Brazilian folklore and traditional art? Gone. Even fucking truco is gone, replaced by poker, have you noticed that? I recall how I used to be a lonely kid because I was the only one interested in gringo crap like comic books, sci-fi and shit and always bemoaned no one else sharing my hobbies, and after I grew tired of them, everyone adopts it while completely forgetting Brazilian culture. A real monkey's paw wish. I wanted people who shared my interests, now I can't get away from them. The old mutt syndrome? Even that is gone. That term doesn't apply anymore. We are now flat-out bastards. Porky has thoroughly bastardized the Brazilian people, the way old fashies said.
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>>142793
And yeah, I know they were spooked idiots who thought in idealistic terms, but that's the rub: the superstructure has suffered a change in nature. I argued about it here: >>78498. Now that the infosphere is inescapable and the superstructure can be affected directly, the bastardizing which fascists talked about is now actually possible. Not only possible, but has already been done successfully, and we're the "success story" in this entrepreneuship class from Hell. "How to be a soul daytrader". American porkies were looking to buy, our porkies were not just eager to sell but dreamed of it, the transaction was made, and here we are. Soulless is a fitting term both collectively and individually for us now, isn't it? We're completely apathetic politically, and our daily lives are infested with the refuse shat out by America. We lost or culture and adopted none in its place. This can't even be said to be American culture at all. Even the morbidly-obese, hyperconsumerist, scooter-riding hillbilly American dressed in an XXXXXL t-shirt in the likeness of their flag larger than the actual flag, is above us. He has a sense of self, debased and full of lies as it is. But he has one. We don't. Not anymore. We picked the chewed-up bones of the greasy fast-food meal he ate, and thought ourselves his equal. We're a cargo-cult of that hillbilly, worshipping that debased mockery of a human being. We saw him and thought "hmmm, yes, this should be the future of our society". And we didn't even notice until it was too late, we we sure as fuck didn't have a choice. Porky did it, via his media -- I think it's important not to single out the media, because it's just one of bourgeoisie's weapons. And if you were to state this lack of choice in your part to them, they would say without blinking: "you always had the choice not to watch." Vote with our remotes, eh?

That Pulitzer guy, he has a famous quote saying exactly this: "A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will in time produce a people as base as itself." Our fate was divined in 1904, with but two implied divergences. One, is that it dettaches the press from the class it serves. Two, rotten media would rot society in an incidental manner, by continued practice of a misguided behavior. Our elites, proving themselves to truly be the worst in the world, did it on purpose, at the invitation of foreigners.

So then, this seems to me like a completely unseen state of affairs in human history. A people deprived not just of their culture, but any culture. I have absolutely no idea how or if this can be reversed, nor, failing that, what other morbid symptoms will follow. How do you unbastardize something? How do you fix something which isn't even there anymore? And this, I think, plays into my baffling conclusion that an armed conflict seems both inevitable yet impossible. As far as my meager imagination goes, the only way to have a culture back would be a genuine, no-holds-barred, profound revolution, the sort that upends not just governments or even mere States, but entire paradigms and worldviews. Only this, I think, could fix this situation. To kill the soulless Brazilian and give birth to a new one. The likelihood of it happening, however, is near zero. A massive ass-fuck revolution is what we need and deserve, but only God knows we will get. Until then, we're a soulless creature, a shambling construct of dead parts. It's not that charlatanism culture which is a Frankenstein's monster, that is just our not-soul, the ineffable animating principle which keeps that pathetic soulless thing somehow alive, even tho it should not be. We are that monster.
>>142609
>(just as reich described)
Patrician as fuck, companheiro. I agree, reactionarism is seemingly inseparable from daddy issues and all sorts of male neuroses.
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>>142798
Female too. And psychoses as well.
>>142793

It's not that I disagree with you. But this notion that Brazilian oligarchs are planning all of this is absurd. All of this atomization sounds like an inevitability of capitalism(especiallya sickly one in decline)
>>142996
I guess I overly dramatized it. Let me clarify.

These things range all the way from deliberate to accidental. This morbid symptom of political dettachment is definitely the latter. Porky is used to crafting hyper-reality, after all, but in a perfect example of hubris, he overdid it and unravelled the fabric of the fucking universe. As for flooding us with the lowest foreign pop culture in existence, it's mostly that he just doesn't give a shit and does it because it's far cheaper than actually, God forbid, creating something. Notice the comprador nature of our elites manifests even regarding cultural products. However, given the menagerie which rose to prominence these past few years, I think no one can disagree that for part of the scum, turning the whole country into a colony is very much a deliberate project, if not a wet dream. A bigger part still seems to be satisfied with making us only culturally dominated, instead of completely. Have you noticed how JN seems to always dedicate several minutes to US news, no matter how uneventful the day was? I can't forget this time when they reported on a tornado having ravaged Bumfuck Town in the midwest, as if that doesn't happen almost every damn week.

>>142800
Bro if you become any more patrician, you'll become consul.

That reminds me of this more recent title. I haven't read Reich himself, but I'm guessing this one is far more accessible to laymen.

https://www.theauthoritarians.org/
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I barely post about us becoming a bad copy of a stereotype of Americans, and then Black Friday hits.
>>143375
Not everything is lost comrade

https://youtu.be/pps8D3nV67A
>>142996
>
But this notion that Brazilian oligarchs are planning all of this is absurd. All of this atomization sounds like an inevitability of capitalism(especiallya sickly one in decline)
But that's just Brazil everyday though.
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ROCK LEVA AO SATANISMO E O ABORTO SEGUNDO A FUNARTE
E ai gente de bem, ninguém aqui ouve musica satanica e abortista né?
Eu não sei muito bem como responder a isso. Parece que estamos presos a um eterno retorno do fracasso.
Fonte: https://outline.com/aVuDxn
>>145771
That's funny, I defined this mess in a previous thread as apex Brazil. All the bad things about Brazil, almost like a comprehensive checklist of our maladies, finally reached critical mass and took over. The patient is more parasite than host now. And the dehumanization of such a figure of speech is not accidental on my part. They really have no redeeming aspects whatsoever, they're evil, just plain and simple. It's one of the reasons I'm honestly hoping for a violent backlash, because if this doesn't elicit an energic pushback at some point, then stick a fork on us because we are done, as that means collapse -- not just a revolution, but complete breakdown of social institutions -- would be necessary for the country's liberation.

>>143444
A sogra, a esperança e o Maluf são sempre os últimos que morrem.

>>146239
Well then. See what I mean about deliberately shitting things up? It's not about chipping away at "only" the democratic State, but at any and all good sense and logic. Maquiavellianism in order to force an institutional break, and the damage done persists even if they fail. Left vs right has become civilization vs barbarism, no question about it. It's no longer a figure of speech.
>>143375
I forgot to comment on the generalized dumbing-down of society, which is decidedly a global trend. This obviously isn't something I can prove, but my gut feeling is that Porky realized, God only knows when, that capitalism's race to the bottom would, sooner or later, apply to society itself, and figured he might as well direct that to better serve his interests, because he sure as hell isn't giving up his riches on account of something as insignificant as human progress. This plays into the right's new tactic, of just lying nonstop and degrading all debate to a worthless cacophony. They abandoned the old practice of a carefully crafted hyper-reality, and instead weaponized the infocalypse, dumbing the people down in earnest, without half-measures. The survival of the old world always depended on keeping class consciousness from developing, thus their method has always been obscurantist, altho to wildly varying degrees, but now it's legitimate dumbing-down, no two ways about it. They're deliberately destroying not just dialectics, but dialogue and social cohesion. It's no longer enough to limit human potential, it has to be actively destroyed, because keeping the end of history situation going requires ever-increasing costs. Keep in mind that the eternal cycle of capitalism inevitably entails material change, which inevitably entails social change and, on the long term, this change is positive. To keep the cycle going while keeping us frozen in, it seems, 9/11, the right has to systematically fight human progress itself and, dare I say, human nature. And like I said, I suspect Porky is aware of this, and deliberately operating on this level.

In decades past, the American public debate was perfectly described by Chomsky: "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum — even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate." The hyper-reality created in that way still had to be recognized as consensus reality, which, obviously, isn't guaranteed -- the intense mobilization against the Vietnam War is a perfect example of the hyper-reality failing to be enforced. It seems that the new strategy, then, consists in making a consensus reality impossible, be it fictitious or not. They don't have to bother enforcing a hyper-reality anymore, because there is no consensus reality to be overwritten by it. The result, I think, might cut deeper than Porky thinks, causing the aforementioned loss of social cohesion. We're witnessing one of the results, the omninormalization, as any absurdity is taken in stride and nothing seems to elicit indignation nor enthusiasm anymore. I've said that incapability to create information from existing information makes, among other things, people incapable of judging things by themselves, but now I notice that this extends backwards and forwards in time, which is to say, people can't see the connections between phenomena or entities which are clearly related. Events cease to be part of a chain of cause and effect, becoming completely independent from each other. The time factor ceases to exist in the public mind; society is frozen in the now, permanently at the point in time when you hear about the event but before having to take an attitude towards it. Complete passivity, befitting the end of history. I don't think this effect was planned by Porky, but he can and does hire everyone he wants to do his thinking for him. God knows what cartoonesque evil plans are hatched in the minds of think tanks psychos. Bozo's circus certainly shows that they don't lack the intent and the sociopathy to do it.
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/amp/educacao/2019/12/alunos-de-elite-do-brasil-tem-performance-pior-em-leitura-do-que-pobres-de-outros-paises.shtml

Proof that our porkys are morons, I doubt these people are capable of doing even half the things people claim they do.
https://twitter.com/jairmearrependi/status/1201930226822979584

This country is fucking bizarre and I'm sick of it.
>>147393
aehoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>147393
>video of Alexandre Frota on the pulpit
I'm sorry but I ain't watching that. I'm an internet veteran from the first battles of the Goatse and the Tubgirl, but even I have limits.

Altho I'm glad that Twitter account is back It has a lot of information on the Skynet commanders.
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>>147452
It's just him saying thanks for being that account favorite regretted voter of the year, he thanks everyone on twitter that for him and so on. Received a small statuette and everything.
>>147393
>>147452
He really is a lolcow, he can't even dispose of data properly. That's how low the bar for villainy is nowadays.

>>146952
Oh wow, I'm hanging this on my wall. This will make for good copypasta, thank you.

PISA happens to be the test the cattle has been deliberately misquoting in order to say how PT RUINED OUR EDUCATION. Namely, they say Brazil kept falling lower and lower with each new edition, neglecting to mention that the reason for this is that the test started with few countries and quickly expanded to include more. Shit as our public education is, at least it's not getting worse.

I also ask for everyone to keep in mind how amoral the bastards are, on absolutely all levels. From the most serious realpolitik matters down to internet dickwaving, they have no limits other than fear of consequences. Remember this when the reckoning comes, they whine "so much for the tolerant left" and beg for amnesty. There can never be amnesty for them, they themselves have made it clear. National liberation unquestionably requires that our ruling classes suffer.
>>147459
Oh, that's terrific news by today's standards.
Jesus fucking Christ, a quick look at @jairmearrependi was enough to remind me how easy it is to subvert liberal democracy so long as you don't call yourself a leftists. Look at this shit. This is why I stopped reading up on national news and got out of Twitter.

They're not just doing whatever the fuck they want, which would be bad enough, they're actively doing the worst things possible. This is how easy it is to subvert liberal democracy so long as you don't call yourself a leftist. All of those abuses which were allowed by law but which no one committed because "no one would dare do that"? Well someone dared and jack shit happened. The other parts of government, from the other branches to various autarchic organs supposed to regulate this shit just let it fly, since, well, there's no one to regulate them as well. All it takes for it all to grind to a halt is for one part to shit it up and the parts directly connected to it to ignore. That's all it takes to subvert bougie democracy. And the people, supposedly the source of political power, has no institutional way to act against that other than filing pertitions which the porkies will wipe their asses with. The only power the people have, suitably, lies outside the bougie State itself, in the form of demonstrating their discontent. But since we're catatonic, this is out the window. It's a proven fact that what happened against PT was a double coup and the current administration consists of the most succesful conspiracy of traitors this country ever saw, and yet this goes on because the involved parts just have to pretend they don't see anything.
>>147565
GOD DAMN IT

Privatizing fucking Iguaçu! At this rate, they actually will sell Indians' souls off! This election really was literally the dumbest event in history, no questions about it. A scam on over 200 million people simultaneously. "We would like the stuff that an illetigimate government sold off back", some will say, to which Porky will reply "L.O.L.". The bad guys have to win just once, and they win forever. The people have to win every single time, or they lose everything.

I've been telling you to save all pics, videos, emssages and everything else you find in support of Bolsonaro, and that you ask other people to do the same. And part of the reason is, there will have to be a reckoning. I know it sounds threatening, but there are no two ways about it. We tolerated 500 years of this shit, until this shit took over. This absolute trainreck HAS to bring consequences to the parties involved. Not just the circus itself and its armies of shills and arrivists, but to their supporters and voters. It's beyond clear that we cannot let one's vote be exempt of responsibility, because ultimately, Porky subverts this the same way he subverts freedom of speech into freedom to lie and slander. We got into this mess because a whole lot of bastards weren't treated like bastards, and as of last elections, this has to include the cretins who support those bastards.

I know that punishing people for a past vote is anti-democratic, but I use the same justification for the fact that the internet needs real-time identification: it will happen eventually because the right will abuse it to death if it doesn't. It's either a non-anonymous internet, or no internet worth having. It's either responsible voting, or no voting whatsoever -- and let me point out that it is by sheer stupidity of the presidential clan that the latter hasn't come to pass already. Porky is shedding away his own liberal State. 57m people voted to take away the rights of 210m people. Why is such a blatant action against democracy itself to be exempt from consequences?
TSE authorized the use of electronic signature collection to start new political parties. I can't wait to enroll in PartidoHonesto73909563
GOVERNO MENTE SOBRE A BALANÇA COMERCIAL BRASILEIRA EM PELO MENOS 4 BILHÕES
O financial times fala em glitch, o governo idem, problema é que isso nunca aconteceu antes(pelo menos não na mesma proporção). Como sera que os liberais brasileiros vão passar o pano?
Fontes: https://outline.com/yyR4rn
https://www.ft.com/content/bc552d72-15cf-11ea-9ee4-11f260415385
>>148378
Faz sentido, já foi uma surpresa aprovarem o medicamento em si. Não dava pra imaginar que seria diferente.
>>148404
Does it even matter how they will do it? I saw people justifying Trump`s tariffs, they will justify everything and anything, i saw people saying that if he people just had stayed at home in Paraisópolis no one would have died. If they were out there being poor and black and partying they deserve it.

What do you suggest i read to understand this level of mental fascism and cognitive dissonance, anon?
>>148451
>>148404
destroying the country to own the libs
>>148451
I'm as baffled as you are, none of this shit makes any sense or have any sort of logic. Maybe some Baudrillad, Debord, Jesse de Souza and Mark Fisher would help, throw in there as well Reich's Mass Psychology Of Fascism and Freud's Group Psychology and the Analysis of the Ego as well. Maybe effort post Anon can recommend you something.
>>148451
<partygoers deserve to die
YES.
>>148485
Go to a party no-lifer.
>>148485
have sex
>>148487
>>148489
Why are you booing him?
Why call him a virgin with rage?
He's right.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1202063639391481860


AHAHAHHAHAHAAA This country is going insane
https://extra.globo.com/famosos/heloisa-bolsonaro-diz-passar-por-perrengue-com-salario-de-33-mil-do-marido-eduardo-mas-ressalva-nao-nos-falta-nada-24106299.html

>>148404
O que são um zero a mais ou nove, né?

>>148451
>>148458
They are 99.99% likely to be shills or bots, and you can quote me on that. I now see that disinformation overload wasn't Skynet's primary goal. The herd effect was they real key factor. With Bozo being devoid of any virtue, and even discounting the disinformation and Spectacle, not even a retard could ignore the fact that he was a nobody for 30 years mooching on taxpayers' money. Ultimately, the only thing in his favor that anyone can know for sure to be a fact is to hear that someone would actually vote for him. It's sort of pawning off the process of finding a reason to vote for him; "I want to vote for him, but he still seems crap. But if all these people are voting for him, he has to be worth something". Except these people were actually hundreds of thousands of fake profiles. Fiction writing reality and whatanot. If Twitter and/or WhatsApp didn't have bots, Bozo wouldn't have been elected.

>What do you suggest i read to understand this level of mental fascism and cognitive dissonance, anon?
>>142800
>>143375
Also this, which everyone should spread to everyone they know: https://operamundi.uol.com.br/samuel/43281/umberto-eco-14-licoes-para-identificar-o-neofascismo-e-o-fascismo-eterno
Besides being the most widely accepted (pseudo)definition of fascism, once I contemplated the idea of reactionarism as a mental disorder, his list of bullet points looked a lot like diagnostic criteria from a DSM entry.

Tho I think the electoral swindle aspect in particular is yet to be properly described. Goading people into voting against their interests is Porky's bread and butter. Voting for this or that neoliberal goon are just variations in quantity, but Bozo is a shift in quality. Still, what he said: >>148458
>>148515
>They are 99.99% likely to be shills or bots,
If only. people are genuinely this stupid

https://twitter.com/i/status/1202069086802497536
https://twitter.com/i/status/1202064658007547907
>>148512
>tfw my phylosofy, sociology and history teachers made me commie
I can feel my meme aura gaining more density and thus power
>>148520
Oh, of course there are real ones. I'd guess than 15-20% of any given population is pathologically reactionary to some degree. But I stand by that figure. If you see a pro-Bozo message on most social medias, chances that it's from a fake profile are 99.99%, if not higher. The bots aren't just numerous, but extremely active. It would be dead easy to ban them en mass, if only the fucking social medias actually wanted to. WhatsApp might be an exception, as it claimed it recently banned over 400k profiles involved in last year's elections.
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Assorted news from Brazilonya. I keep noticing a trend of articles to have information far more valuable than the actual headline, buried in the middle of it.

https://politica.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,camara-aprova-versao-desidratada-de-pacote-de-moro,70003113933
Car Wash keeps being (infuriatingly slowly) dismantled, as Moro's moronically-named anti-crime bill gets neutered. Which means that now all 3 branches of government have emasculated the once-savior of the country WEW LAD, altho the castration at the hands of the judiciary has barely started. The real news hidden in the article here is that the "excludente de ilicitude" bullshit, the 2nd instance jaill time and his plea bargain proposal flunked -- we dodged a fucking huge bullet there -- and that Novo, well described as a gourmet PSL, failed to shoot down the creation of the "juiz das garantias". This new position matters a whole damn lot, and this failed offensive is clear demonstration of what we already knew: Novo are fundamentally opposed to liberal democracy.

This requires a bit of background. One of the most fundamental principles of democracy today (tho a surprisingly late innovation) is that a judicial process is divided between 4 independent parties. Everyone is familiar with the 3 of them who work in courtrooms: accusation or prosecution, defense and the judge arbitrating between them. But the judge can't rely on their words alone, tho I'll return to this later. So the judge has to gather his own version of the facts, and, ideally, these must be as objective as possible, seeing as the accusatory system allows for the two competing parties to lie almost completely freely. The thing is, being involved with the two litigious parties, the judge, if he himself were to gather said data, would be inevitably at risk of unconscious bias, to say nothing of a glaring opportunity for deliberate abuse. Thus the job of the liberal State in the juridical process is broken in another part, one to judge the case, the other to investigate it, in addition to the already-existing prosecution in criminal cases. I wasn't aware quite what the Brazilian practice in this regard, but as far as I know now, we never made that distinction before. We were missing a basic feature of liberal democracy. And, here's the key, this was fundamental for Car Wash to have happened. From the start, PT was crying foul over the fact that Moro was in charge of both investigation and judging. But seeing as it had always been like this around here, they didn't have any ground to stand on. And thanks to The Intercept, we now know that Moro was also in charge of prosecution as well, which is not only all sorts of criminal, but a violation of the most basic notions of liberal democracy. It's literally inquisitorial. That's the term often used to describe when the 3 roles of the State in a judicial case are assigned to a single party, and the etymology is exactly what you think it is. Remember all the jokes about Lula having the worst lawyer's ever? The poor bastards were up against the other 3 parties in the process! Under light of these revelations, his defense team worked miracles.
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>>149536
There's no question about it, this separation between investigator and judge would not have happened without The Intercept's leaks. They pulled the rug from under Moro, because until then, Lula's rigged convictions were still within, let's say, the reach of our media's hyperreality. Now that's up in smoke. Still, there's this baffling lag between the facts known and the facts as acknowledged by the establishment -- we know this is all a sham and we're not in a democracy anymore, but the establishment, unable to hide it, also can't just up and own up to it, since they were involved. Thus we have to wait this infuriation interregnum while the old scum slowly erases their traces from the anti-PT campaign, so Lula can stage a return and make peace with the fuckers who called for his blood not long ago. The new scum, which, by any sane measure, deserves nothing but firing squads, will, under this narrative, just go down in history as "an unfortunate episode" of our democracy. A role which, until the leaks happened, was earmarked for PT (Lula would eventually be redeemed, but it would take God knows how much longer, most likely after his death). So the return of the "juiz das garantias" is a middle finger salute being rubbed on Moro's face, no doubts about it, and the fact that it was added to his anti-crime bill sends a clear message.

So then, back to Novo's attempt to stop this basic feature of modern democracy makes them grade AAA gulag fodder, priority seats on the very first train car. I tried to find the roll call for the vote on that maneuver they attempted, without success. Another instance of us falling for the tolerance paradox and exactly the thing the global right have decided to abuse.

Here are 3 extra considerations about this. One, the bill which creates the "juiz das garantias" isn't new at all. It was written all the way back in 2009 by José Sarney of all people, and approved by the Senate on Lula's very last month in office, soon to become by far the most popular leaving president, and then on to get his shit fucked up as the bill stalled for 9 fucking years in the House. Wew and whatnot. Since it was ammended to hell and back during that interval, it will have to be voted by the Senate again now. Two, back in October, the new scum tried to salvage Moro's sinking ship of a bill, and splurged no less than 10m HUEbux on a publicity campaign. And I'll bet no one here even knew this took place, am I right? I only learned this now, as well. This is another example of the political apathy affecting all sides. Three, the bill increases the punishment for a lot of the most grievous offenses, plugs rather big holes in the conditions for parole and ups the maximum lifetime jail term from 30 to 40 years. I'm_okay_with_this.jpg

(A parenthetical return to the judge in a liberal State having to have hard data instead of relying on the competing parties'words. Placing little to no weight of evidence on testimony is a paradigm of Roman-derived law, which is currently the norm over most of the world, with the only significant exception being the USA, which still uses custom law and its overreliance on testimony. Which, incidentally, is part of why the plea bargain system has spiralled out of control so badly there. As you might be guessing, Moro, who just tried to bring that monstrosity here, was very keen on using testimony as evidence. He went to several "classes" in America over the years, remember? He brought this "innovation" to our Roman-derived law and put it to good use in Car Wash. Simple word of mouth being accepted as ironclad evidence was vital for Lula's conviction (Leo Pinheiro being the most glaring offender, having changed his testimony several times until Moro was happy with it), among plenty of others. Another CW convict whose name is beyond me right now was pardoned early this year, before CW began being dismantled, because literally all evidence used to convict him was testimony. Convicted on word of mouth alone.)
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>>149539
https://politica.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,apos-ofensas-discurso-de-arthur-do-val-e-interrompido-por-briga-generalizada-na-alesp,70003114122
The lowbrow tactics championed by MBL et all. finally hits them back. "Mommy [I] Spoke" (the perfect pseudonym if he ever jumps into Olavo's bandwagon and adopts a foreign name), a pioneer of baiting people for fame and political gain, got into fisticuffs on the pulpit. The real news is, he'll now get hit with a petition to lose his mandate for ye olde "quebra de decoro" (I won't even try to translate that because this country must be the only place where such a thing exists). Well, "Mommy", don't call it a grave. Omninormalization means no one is safe from their own weapons. You turned this bullshit into common practice, and now it's your turn to be bullshat. He already got a wrist slap for another such offense, and most importantly, he has no party, having been purged from DEM (the descendants from the dictatorship's party, I remind you) for voting against its orders and criticizing governor Dória.
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>>149540
Speaking of purging...
https://politica.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,psl-suspende-eduardo-bolsonaro-por-um-ano-outros-17-deputados-sao-punidos,70003112091
One of the annointed ones was punished, and by his and daddy's party, no less! The only reason PSL can't be said to be in open rebellion is that the anti- and pro-Bozo are still fiercely fighting. The presidential klan lost the power struggle against the party president despite the latter having been indicted by a PF investigation days beforehand. This is how weak the clan is. And in other respects too, this is no small news. To an authoritarian, applying the rules to the rulers themselves is tantamount to treason. Bozo has completely lost control over the party, the only thing keeping half of it on his side is that they're all venomous snakes betting on Bozo's political longeviy. Odds are that the faction now defending him will be saying "Bolsowho?" in a couple of months. Also, I point out that 03 actually publicly apologized for his last bout of oral diarrhea regarding democracy after the lashback he received. This is no small event, I tell you. They only ever made apologies for the sake of plausible deniability, for the sake of appearances, this is the first time one of the cunts had to actually back down. He was put in his place. And this is more jarring considering that they have been deliberately provocative, threatening democracy almost on the clock. One of their reasons for doing so, no doubt, was to test the waters, and now, finally, the waters are unquestionably too cold for them to jump in. Remember when 02 said some shit about "the changes we want will come way too slow in a democracy"? There was moderate lashback, and he doubled down on his bullshit. And what about late last year, with 03's infamous comment about a private and a corporal being all that's needed to close the Supreme Court down? There was no lashback whatsoever coming from the old scum. If anything, they might have echoed his bullshit. With this latest incident, that same old scum was lining up to take cheap shots at 03, every demagogue in Brasília made press releases crying a single tear for freedom. Once you add in the popular apathy affecting their side as well, the illusory horde of fake social media profiles is pretty much the only source of political capital they have left. It would be pathetic if it weren't tragic.

For last, I saved the most Brazil thing of all these articles.
<A suspensão de Eduardo e de aliados é uma derrota para a ala ligada ao presidente Jair Bolsonaro, que queria a expulsão para conseguir sair do partido sem perder o mandato. Em entrevista à Rádio Eldorado na terça-feira passada, advogada da família Bolsonaro e tesoureira do Aliança pelo Brasil, Karina Kufa, afirmou que seria “um favor” retirarem eles da legenda.
Hear that? Current law states that a sitting elected officer who leaves his party automatically loses his office, but he gets to keep it if he's expelled, instead, like mister "Mommy". This means 03 and his band of losers were cockslapped twice over by his and daddy's own party. Once for being publicly humiliated, and again for not being punished as hard as they needed to be in order to keep their dirty careers going. "I double-dog dare you to do this thing which I want you to do"! Hahahahaha jesus christ
Nice effort post. Will read when I have the chance. On another note, someone please tell me why right wingers are so angry at and trying to shut down the STF?
>>149926
STF has basically freed Lula from prison
>>149541
Could you please explain what 03 and 02 are and what they have done?
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>>149926
>>149938
>Nice effort post.
th-thanks

Lula is actually a late development. They want to shut the STF down because shitting things up is what rightwingers do. You know those fags demanding military """intervention""" for decades? Same deal. Basic-bitch reactionary authoritarianism. The circus has been siccing the remainders of their voter base and the fake profile army on them since at least late last year despite their compliance with CW and Toffoli's shameless gestures to appease the brass, see the infamous comment about a private and a corporal. Notice that they do this without implicating Bozo himself, because he's is living on the sufferance of Congress and STF. This shows two more basic-bitch reactionary habits: cowing non-ideologically-aligned allies into submission and in a dissimulated manner, of course. Their sorry excuse is that they "legislate from the bench". I have no doubt that they're picking on STF rather than Congress because the former has no voter base to mobilize, little media or exposure and no internet presence. In other words, they picked the target least able to fight back. Early this year, I wondered if Toffoli knew or not who was behind the constant attacks against STF in general and him specifically, but once he started an investigation into the fake news, it was clear he knew by then and had enough of their shit. That was the moment, I think, when he switched from cozying up to Bozo to joining the "resistance" within the old scum.

It's worth pointing out that the circus aren't just sending the cattle after STF. The new scum is loaded with fuckers claim to be totes-democrat-swear-on-me-mum but dream of taking part on a March on Brasilia. At the rear, naturally, as it's safer. They have filed Senate petitions to impeach Toffoli four times already, two of which just yesterday. To be honest, 3 of them are citizen's petition's and thus are little more than future toilet paper at the Congress restrooms, but it's worth pointing out that one of them was made by a jurist, Modesto Carvalhosa, the other two by a handful of the hobgoblins who infest the State magistrature plus Janaína Paschoal, who signed both. The fourth one, however, is more serious, as it's an official motion forwarded by a senator, Major Olímpio. It's still extremely unlikely to pass, but it gives you an insight into what passes for a reactionary's mind. Honestly, I hope this puts a fire under Toffoli's ass so he helps end this farse as soon as possible while he still can.

But the biggest offender against STF is probably Bia Kicis, a frontrunners for the honor of inaugurating the tropical gulags. She's close to think tanks and the Atlas Network goons ("Em 2015, fundou o Instituto Resgata Brasil, que tem por finalidade resgatar as Instituições Republicanas, bem como os valores culturais e familiares da sociedade brasileira. Também em 2015, foi convidada para ser um dos representantes, em Brasília, do Movimento Revoltados ON LINE."), especially with that Winston Ling douche. The two of them introduced Paulo Guedes to Bozo. Way earlier this year, in her first elected term, she presented a bill to revoke the "PEC da Bengala", which, if approved, would force STF justices to retire 5 years earlier than now and coincidentally allow Bozo to appoint 4 justices instead of 2, precocious deaths notwithstanding. Her words:
<Eu disse que ia atrás de revogar a PEC da Bengala para que a aposentadoria volte a ser compulsória para os servidores públicos aos 70 anos, e não aos 75. Com isso, nós já faremos uma grande mexida no Judiciário e isso é muito importante.
She's a cryptofascist bastard, plain and simple. She has called for a coup multiple times in the past. Also, she was another one of the craven toads, deputy prosecutor-in-chief of the DF. A recent update: https://twitter.com/JornalismoWando/status/1201820336905428993

An interesting detail I learned as I Googled while writing this post. Back in 2017, Rosa Weber had considered voluntarily retiring at the end of 2018. Dunno if she ever announced her change o
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>>149954
Bozo calls his sons 01, 02, 03 and 04 because that's how Brazilian sergeants refer to their soldiers. Seriously. Dunno if his last child and only daughter received a nickname too. It wouldn't surprise me if he refers to her by some military slang for prostitutes.

>>149987
Huh, it cut off the last few letters. It ends in "change of mind."
A ANVISA rejeitou o cultivo de maconha medicinal no Brasil. Mais um segmento em que dependeremos dos países desenvolvidos, e mais uma mordida no saldo da balança comercial. Ela criou uma categoria nova só pra ele, "produtos a base de cannabis", pra não classificar o CBD como medicamento, e criou uma comissão pra avaliar se ele merece o rótulo. O resultado será entregue em 3 anos. A bem da verdade, já há um medicamento legalizado no Brasil, e a base nem é CBD, mas THC mesmo. Mas é aquele negócio, foder tudo e todos é a raison d'être do reaça patológico.

Falando no diabo, acabei de ver no JN a revogação de um decreto que permitia que artistas possam registrar-se como MEI e contribuir pra previdência. Alguém tem a menor dúvida de que isso é pura e simples agressão reacionária contra um grupo indesejado? Só de ouvir a chamada, eu tinha certeza que foi obra do 02 e dos le epic trolls deusvultinhos de internet com os quais ele se imiscui. Daí a notícia deu mais evidência disso, falando que foi anunciado via Twitter. Bingo. Foi obra dos lolcows e comandantes da Skynet, que devem estar rachando o bico de rir Creio que o principal cabeça deles -- excetuando Olavo, é claro -- é o Filipe Martins, um dos incontáveis devotos que passou anosempesteando a internet brasileira com seus colegas e LARPeando sobre como "consertariam" o Brasil. Daí veio a imprensa e nos jogou numa dimensão paralela e o LARP deles virou realidade. Lembro-me de ver uns desses manés aí, em conversas de rede social de anos atrás, babando ovo pra ele, dizendo "já imaginou se o Filipe tivesse a oportunidade de por em prática suas propostas?". De onde se deduz que ou seus planos deram tão mal que foram reduzidos a tosquice de guerra cultural, ou sempre o foram.

Picas relatadas. A foto do perfil do sacripanta e a do sacripanta, respectivamente. Esse ariano ideal em foto-negativo vive LARPeando de cruzado e vertendo lágrimas pela perda iminente da civilização judaico-cristã-européia. A última pica é um exemplo do tipo de LARP que esse povo agora põe em prática sobre as cabeças de 150 milhões de brasileiros mais 57 milhões de fracassos evolucionários.
O Espetáculo está ocupando todas as áreas de nossa vida. O segundo turno de 2022 será entre Huck e Marcola.
>>151701
Ah sim, eles, sem dúvida, tinham plena noção de que seria repelida, como de fato, acaba de ser. Filha-da-putice pura. Olhem pra isso, e lembrem-se de que esses homúnculos não são inimigos políticos ou ideólogos opostos a nós. São vis e maus, é simples assim. O fato de que o pior do pior chegou ao poder torna isto maniqueísta, nunca precisaremos nem duvidar de nós mesmos quando a situação envolve essa ralé. A direita é quase que universalmente pior que a esquerda, mas este secto, especificamente, é 100% de certeza em 100% das vezes. Não há porque se falar em probabilidades, pois isto é determinístico.
Acusaram o Nosso Presidente Bolsonaro de querer exterminar os índios, e eis que ele retorna uma tribo extinta à vida!

https://g1.globo.com/ac/acre/natureza/amazonia/noticia/2019/12/04/documentario-conta-historia-de-povo-indigena-no-ac-que-chegou-a-ser-considerado-extinto-por-100-anos.ghtml

O Senhor realmente está agindo pela mão do Messias!
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O BRASIL POSSUI UM NOVO PARTIDO HOXHAISTA
A Unidade Popular Pelo Socialismo é basicamente composto pelo PCR e a sua juventude, a UJR. Lembro deles serem bem atuantes dentro dos movimentos de ocupações, eram também parte do pessoal que estava por de tras da Ocupação Lanceiros Negros. Nunca vi eles dentro do movimento estudantil, sei que existem mas não parecem fazer barulho(na PUC eles meio que estavam junto com a galera do PSOL, PT e PCdoB no DCE). O numero eleitoral deles é 80.
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>>154437
Orra, registrados no TSE e tudo? Não imaginava que há tantos hoxhaistas justo aqui. Mas e a cláusula de barreira, como fica? Lembro que, na última eleição, uma caralhada de partidos no Congresso estava negociando fusões.
>>154475
>Orra, registrados no TSE e tudo?
Sim, um milhão e duzentos mil de assinaturas aceitas e legalizadas. O TSE aprovou o registro deles hoje.
>Mas e a cláusula de barreira, como fica?
Se eu não me engano, para partido novo ela não vale. Para partidos que a recem estão começando, tipo ficam umas duas ou três eleições sem ter que "preocupar" com ela.
>>154483
Se forem tão cabra-macho quanto o patrono deles, já está garantido o Exército Vermelho-como-brasa.
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I honestly can't tell anymore if Globo is attacking Bozo or not. They seem to be reporting on his slapstick antics (as if there's much more to cover), but if they think this damages his image, they still haven't grasped the current situation. First, because there's no bad publicity anymore save for extremely direct cases, like signing a decree creating the Ministry of Silly Walks. In the vast majority of the cases, however, it merely adds to the barrage of noise, which enables the trick he pulled on the election: unable and unwilling to know the actual facts surrounding the candidates, they pick and choose what to believe out of a repertoire of quite literally any human activity or trait. You like Bozo because you're a nitwit but you want confirmation that you're not a nitwit? Okay, and what would a candidate have to do to earn you vote? Be an expert on tapir husbandry? No problem, we have fake news about that, maybe even an entire site (inevitably hosted on Blogspot or Wordpress) dedicated to nothing but Jair's love of tapir love. There you go, vote justified, thank you suuckerr, and don't bother saving the receipt. Or to put it simply: whichever candidate has his name spoken the most times wins.

Two, the slapstick is deliberate (on the circus part, obviously; Bozo is too stupid to realize he's a clown) in order to delegitimize the system. It's almost beyond doubt that they would have staged a coup by now if they weren't such incompetent boobs, and this degradation of an already dilapidated bougie democracy would be part of that. Now they can't stage a coup, but are still fagging everything up because that's what rightwingers do. And the point here is that Globo aids them in this goal every single time they say the words "Bolsonaro" and "president" in the same sentence. Like reporting on his slapfight with fucking Greta Thunberg. Whomever voted on him hoping for a miracle has jumped ship already, and the ones left either don't mind these distractions or voted on him because of them. I suppose they divulge it to show how pathetic he is, in which case they're hopelessly out of touch with this horrible new world they helped create.
(holy fuck, I just noticed the character limit doubled, thank god)

I see Globo is playing up Moro's reputation, especially in comparison with Bozo. Both are doomed to enter the hall of infamy sooner or later, but Globo is still trying to salvage their pet democratocide to survive Bozo's fall. This might actually present a serious risk. The presidential clan completely ruined the chances of the armed forces committing or backing a coup, but Moro is still squeaky-clean by their standards. What's more, he was the guy who put big bad Lula away, and for the latter to remain away, Moro's political career has to survive. Ultimately, it's a futile endeavor, obviously. It could have worked -- it might have happened by now, actually -- had the revelations divulged by The Intercept not happened, because Moro wouldn't have any liabilities whatsoever, and everything to gain by ditching the clown. Everyone saw him being routinely humiliated by Bozo and take it lying down, so seeing the supposed hero against corruption finally give the clown the comeuppance deserved would have been just fine by the vast majority of the population. It would be yet another iteration of salvationism, and arguably the biggest and most disastrous one, not just in practice but in theory. Imagine the biggest traitor in the country's history being almost literally crowned its savior. It would have been positively Greek in its irony. The chances of it happening aren't down to zero yet, however, but I think it's fair to say "Verdevaldo" spared us yet another coup. And let me point out that Brazil didn't know what journalism was until he schooled the country. A foreigner saved us from ourselves.

I think the possibility of a Moro coup depends on 2 factors. One is the brass backing up -- or forcing -- Moro's attempt, or tolerate Lula's eventual return. He treated them with nothing but respect, but like I keep saying, pathological reactionaries always fuck everything up forever. So I guess this is a non-factor, really. The second and actual factor would be the speed at which Car Wash, and thus Moro's image, is undone. If there is a planned coup involving Moro now, it's racing against the clock.

And let me just point out another, ever more dire prospect: a Mourão-Moro coup. Knock on wood!

I'd like to point out that Moro isn't quite what one usually calls a reactionary. His less-than-progressive stances on legislation are arguably the only demonstration of his political opinions, and they don't seem to stem from pathological reactionarism, but from that tacky reactionarism that is synonymous with general ignorance, lack of culture and what we have been calling a lumpen mentality. Moro always had this appearance of apparent intellectual vacuity about him. I read an interview ages ago, can't remember who it was, but in retrospect, he nailed it. It was something like "Moro strikes me as the kind of person knowledgeable in his specialized area, but with a limited intellect in anything else". Also, Dalagnol doesn't seem like a pathological case either, but a relatively well-meaning, literally delusional guy swept up in the aforementioned lumpen mentality of the times.

As an aside, an opportunity to talk about the fight against generalized lying for personal gain which, I fear, will have to be enacted. Moro's and CW's reputation remain high because the Globo itself just plain ignored itspretty much blanked it out. The other TV networks talked about it at the started, but have since then sucked Bozo's balls and won't ever mention them again now. Here, we have a painfully clear case of manipulation, deceit and malice, despite there having been no lies involved. From Porky's point of view, this means his press is working magnificently well, but by any sane measure, the social function of a free press is proven, beyond argument, to be a bad joke. Should there be measures against generalized stelionate, will these undeniably deliberate omissions constitute an offense? This is the sort of question we hoped we would never have to ponder, because it's an obvious first step into regulation against free speech. But alas, the right wing is forcing mankind's hand now. So, when the time comes, let's ensure they foot the entire bill, okay?
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Anon, I have no idea what is going on in Brazil but your posts about it are always fascinating. What a read, my friend.
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Thanks, I appreciate it. I reckon explaining the nuances often requires an awful lot of backstory. Well it's over 500 continuous years of lore, and the current season is the worst one yet.
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490 actually, colonization only started in 1530 after some pirates started stealing shit, pirates are the reason we live in pain anon. Remember that.
Okay, so the PSL president -- who was officially indicted by the PF not a month ago -- and its leader in the House -- the most grievous case of histrionic personality disorder I ever had the misfortune of knowing -- are openly warring with the circus. I mentioned days ago how 03 got cockslapped and lost intra-party powers for a year. Well they just got some judge or other to reverse that. And odds that that that reversal will be reversed soon enough too. And foreigners, take note that this sort of judiciary edict is par for the course. Our magistrates can do pretty much what they want, and by and large, the only ones who can put limits on them are other magistrates.

This is beyond pathetic. The circus doesn't merely not control any of the chambers of Congress, they don't control their own fucking party. If this were a leftist governments, the press would be yammering day in and day out about how the government have no "governability" and should resign and blah blah blah. Now here's the thing. Governments are supposed to, well, govern, partly via key bills introduced by the president's office and its Congress base, and getting them approved one way or the other. Which begs the question: why isn't this government deadlocked? Even tho this isn't a parliamentary system, an executive incapable of approving anything that isn't one of Porky's all-important neoliberal ass-rapes ought to be a deadweight, since it can't enact whatever was its project -- and I remind you that, by law, every presidential candiadate must submit a draft document stating that in order to be able to run. And yet, despite being a step away from beingbarred by security from entering the Congressional building, this government is trucking along as usual.

The only conclusion with which I can come up is that the circus literally doesn't have and never had one. They're not deadlocked simply because they have no agenda to pass. Even Bozo's retarded bills to grant free gun-shaped dildos to all war widows or whatever the fuck always were just isolated bouts of demagoguery, stupidity or just plain evil. Only now it fully dawned on me that they actually, no-joking-about-it never had anything resembling a project. Well, that's not quite true. The ministers are shitting everything they can up and then some. But there's no political project. Well okay, that's not true either. Their political project, it's clear now, was simply "stage a coup" and, if that succeeded, maybe they'd get ambitious and grant two gun-shaped dildos for war widows. But that's all out the window, so... that's it. For most intents and purposes, the executive branch right now is just the various ministries. It doesn't really exist outside of the Esplanada, either in ideological, political or administrative matters. And that shows how vital the neverending campaign talking points and Bozo's slapstick antics are, as these are the only things they have to show. One of his handlers tells him to offend some world-famous personality, the media dutifully divulges it because they have to, the digital militias churn out another batch of terminally boomer memes to distribute to the circus' audience, and that's that. Were this a leftist government this weak, Congress would no doubt blockade all proceedings and shut the government down until they extracted all manner of dirty gains from it, but as it is, they're just pretty much running the country, which includes blocking and undoing the aforementioned isolated bouts of bullshit. Even Porky's all-important neoliberal reforms were taken from the circus. I remind you that Paulo Guedes' public pension plan was scrapped (altho the key points, obviously, would pass with this or any government), and Moro's anti-crime (hghnghnhgnnghng) laws were scrapped in all but name, being reduced to a simple toughening up of criminal laws with which no one disagreed. If it weren't the media's job to report on these fuckers, Bozo & Co. would at this very moment be back to the same insignificance they were for the past 30 years. Leave it to him to fall into obscurity while bathed by the limelight.

To illustrate the point, let me dig up the draft document which Bozo's campaign presented. Keep in mind that this isn't some Herculean task. It's just supposed to be the general goals, which areas the would-be president would prioritize, their attitude towards foreign and economic policy, in fairly simple, informal language. There's no set format or anything, so they end up being quite representative of each camp, if not in substance, then at least in spirit.

Here are the drafts of all 13 candidates (the biggest roster since the first -post-dictatorship election in 1989), in neat PDF format, straight from the electoral commission/court's site. Those of PT and PSL are in the links in the table of the run-off election, the rest, in the table about the first round. Special mention to Lula, who figures in the list despite having ultimately been barred. His draft is probably the same as Hadda's, save for a few pictures, of course: http://www.tse.jus.br/eleicoes/eleicoes-2018/propostas-de-candidatos

Let's divinate the goat entrails of each party, then. The leftmost ticket, PSTU, opted for the manifesto format, with only 5 pages listing 16 bullet points. PT delivered the most straightforward one, 60 pages of text plus covers, in accessible yet prim language, explaining what they intended to do, altho peppered with campaign-trail terms and slogans. By contrast, PSDB's pretty much is an actual pamphlet, a colorful 16-page booklet mostly consisted of pictures, largely blank pages and ready-made phrases straight from keyboards of top-level marketeers. Now I'll pick a few at random. PODE, one of those ideologically hollow parties, presented a draft on PT's mold but very slimmed down to 15 pages and with far more vague promises. DC's ticket, headed by veteran loser EY-EY-EYMAEL, made an even slimmer document of 9 pages, but filled with actual proposals in short, dry language. NOVO, created as the swine party par excellence recently, had 23 professionaly-designed pages containing several proposals full of the one type of demagoguery on which they bet all their cheaps: cutting costs by shrinking the State. The leftmost party, PSTU, opted for the tried and true manifesto format, with 16 discrete bullet points spread accross only 5 pages. The next leftmost party opted for the other tried and true format of ours which, amusingly, stands in direct opposition to the first, which is a fucking assload of theory; no less than 228 pages of theses, arguments and data to back up clear-headed proposals. And then... then we have PSL's draft. I was about to type up a storm to describe its unique awfulness, but then it hit me, there's no point. Their draft encapsulates this demented zeitgeist to perfection. I honestly could not make a more stereotypical attempt if I tried. So just pretend you received that PDF from your racist aunt in your family's WhatsApp group, with a message about "showing the REAL truth the media doesn't want you to know" and go with the flow. Gringoes, it's worth putting the text there on a translator, because it does justice to everything else about it.
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I've heard pstu is a trot party, how shit are they?
It took surprisingly long, but Bolsonaro finally called a journalist a fag, yesterday. Well, he did use the term "homosexual", but it was clearly meant as an insult. And since he finally reached this landmark, he added a genuine your-mom insult at another journalist. Probably as a cheap way to make up for that, today's press meeting has been unusual. It took place at the garden of the presidential palace, brunch-style. In a perfect display of the shit-tier demagoguery we have to deal with nowadays, he was wearing a soccer jersey. Which team it represented, honestly, matters not at all, because he goes to major league matches often, and takes a lot of pictures wearing every jersey out there. Anyway, despite the amicable setting of this press meeting, no professional cameras of any sort were allowed, but phone cameras were. Unless there's some technical detail of which I'm unaware, I can only see this as a passive-aggressive jab at the press, which runs counter to the seemingly conciliatory tone of the meeting. Then again, they're just incompetent at everything, so if this was an attempt to send a message to journalists, they fucked it up.
>>184241 >he added a genuine your-mom insult at another journalist What did he say and why?
>>184274 Does it matter what the clown says? In the end it's all just jokes
>>184274 This Wednesday, the federal police executed several search warrants on places related to his eldest son, which brought back the gritty details which kicked said investigation off last December. The chief charge is that one Queiroz, a former Rio cop (of course) and family friend who had worked officially as driver and unofficially as bagman for them for ages, having written cheques worth 40k HUEbux to Bozo's current wife -- the conversion to dollars doesn't do it justice nowadays so I think a better way to frame it is that that's about 40 months worth of minimum wage here. Anyone minimally familiar with Rio politics knows that the family, among many other scumbags, hire a lot of relatives and friends for their official staff in city, state and national legislative bodies, all paid with taxpayer money and with extremely lax checks on so much as their presence in their putative workplaces. In other words, free money. Some of these gravy-trains are pretty much simply rented out, with the "staffer" paying a chunk of their salary to their boss. Anyone familiar with Rio politics knows these 40k were exactly this, the collected kickbacks from leeches in the Bolsonaro family's public offices, and addressing the cheques to missus Bozo instead of mister Bozo is their way of "throwing the scent off". Like we say, it's this easy to be evil in this day and age. At any rate, the official explanation as to why a retired cop and former driver was paying a small fortune to his ex-boss' trophy wife is that he was paying back a friendly loan Bozo gave him. With plausible deniability stretched this thin, a journalist asked him yesterday if he had any sort of receipt of said loan, to which the reply was, translated as close to original as possible, "damn, man, why don't you ask your mother for the receipt she gave your father, alright?" >>184474 hey man pelase let them ask questions, I need to rant about this madness to someone it's the only way to have some measure of relief
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Feliz natal pra todos feliz natal FELIZ NA-TAL This damn jingle has been stuck in my mind for life, to the point I don't even know if they come from a Mônica cartoon in the first place. There were almost no fireworks or celebrations this year around here, either private or public. I have the feeling it's somehow related to the lethargy spell. This sort of holiday is eminently superstructural in nature, after all. It makes sense that a passive people would abandon their agency even when it comes to celebrations. My gut feeling is that everyone, even Bozo's detractors, is still unconsciously waiting with bated breath for the miracle -- you know, the one that your preacher with a restraining order, your sleazy middle-aged singleton uncle and a Brazillion social media accounts guaranteed that would happen with Bolsonaro in power, the nation last chhance at whatever. It's a collective thing felt by everyone since he was sold as the last and only alternative. We all are hoping against hope that things will work out, while seeing nothing but signs to the contrary. The country is frozen in that moment immediately after a car accident, when hope still survives in your unconscious mind, that what your senses tell you isn't real. We have our collective butthole clenched tight and won't let go. (first attempt didn't upload pic, second try)
Anões quais são as suas previsões para 2020? O q eu acho: >o governo se faccionaliza entre a nova e a velha escória >a biosfera começa a colapsar de forma catastrófica >a econômia brasileira entra de vez em crise >as esquerda faz porra nenhuma >o exército tenta um golpe
Any /brg/ approved economists and/or material on our current situation? I'm tired of neoliberal bullshit.
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what the hell, this is the 4th time i'm trying to post this, I bet the porkies are behind this >>187904 >>o governo se faccionaliza entre a nova e a velha escória Isso praticamente já aconteceu, não? STF e Câmara estão se coçando de vontade de dedetizar o Palácio da Alvorada, só esperam o momento certo. Aliás, emendo essa previsão: uma fração da nova escória já está debandando, e periga, ao invés de juntar-se à velha, tornar-se a novíssima escória ao derrubar o Bozo. Até contra o Whitney Houston o clã já comprou briga. Eu sempre soube que seria questão de tempo até todo bolsonarista jurar de pés juntos que nunca apoiou o dito-cujo, mas esperava que isso ocorreria depois do fiasco terminar, e não durante. https://politica.estadao.com.br/blogs/fausto-macedo/flavio-bolsonaro-ataca-juiz-que-autorizou-operacoes-contra-queiroz-e-sugere-ligacao-com-witzel/ Aliás, isso reforça a hipótese da novíssima corja puxar o tapete do Bozo. Não nos esqueçamos quem controla a PF que está cuidando dos casos do 01, e, graças a Raquel Dodge, do de Marielle. Isso faz a pussilanimidade de Moro frente às humilhações do Bozo fazer sentido. >>a econômia brasileira entra de vez em crise Isso realmente preocupa. Enfim há sinais do fim da crise, e não graças a ação (ou inação) do governo. Pelo contrário, essas conseqüências ainda não tiveram impacto. Vejo por aí alguns mais otimistas esperando que a burguesia brasileira assuma o papel de motor da economia após os açoites do Paulo Guedes, e fico com receio que trazer-lhes a triste verdade, como se tivesse de dizer a uma criança que Papai Noel não existe. Se existe uma noção que precisa ser incutida na cabeça do povo brasileiro, é a de que nossas classes dirigentes simplesmente não querem que nos tornemos um país desenvolvidos, e, pelo contrário, atuarão direta e violentamente contra qualquer tentativa de realizar isso. >>o exército tenta um golpe Minha intuição me diz que o completo fracasso do "projeto Bolsonaro" foi um balde de água fria pras viúvas assanhadas da ditadura. Pra todos os efeitos, eles acabaram de dar um golpe militar, e deu errado de uma forma tão bizarra que ninguém poderia ter previsto. Enfim, o oficialato também parece estar meio catatônico. >>as esquerda faz porra nenhuma Pois é, mas a grande questão é, justamente, pica relatada. Um século atrás, todos os lados possuiam mais ou menos os mesmos meios à disposição para espalhar (ou destruir) consciência de classe, que eram agitação coletiva e imprensa. Com a escala da mídia de massas tornando esta monopólio da burguesia, nós simplesmente não podemos mais ser ouvidos. É possível entender o que um orador diz mesmo que algum pelêgo fique fazendo barulho para atrapalhar, mas sequer se pode saber se ela está dizendo qualquer coisa que seja se este outro estiver usando uma muralha de alto-falantes de show de rock. Creio que a saída, talvez a única possível, seria partir pra uma estratégia contra-intuitiva: descoletivizar. Como não há mais organizações civis e a mídia de massas está fora de nosso alcance, só nos resta dialetizar mano-a-mano, pessoa por pessoa. Uma tarefa hercúlea, sem dúvida, mas, creio, necessária. Foi justamente a perda da capilaridade da esquerda dentro da população que catalizou este parangolé, e não há maior capilaridade possível que ativismo "personalizado", uma espécie de evangelho revolucionário, o revangelho.
>>190046 Acho que o melhor jeito de nós organizarmos é convencendo o povão a fazer coletivos bolivários já que o Estado só nos serve ao nível municipal, essa descoletivização que se fala eu suponho que esteja relacionada aos partidos e "coletivos" e "autonomias", com isso eu concordo , mas me parece que "evangelizar" a esquerda só vai dá mais um Gonzalo. Acredito que o brasileiro só acredita quando vê, portanto nós vamos ter que fazer o socialismo agora nesse caos, ao meu ver isso me parece mais fácil do vc propõe.
https://youtu.be/Ymwj0zcqnDw Achei um canal de AMV brasileiro, é muito bom pelo que vejo
Anyone read the Atlantic article on Olavo? Greenwald posted it on twitter and it's a good enough primer on how much of a piece of shit he is. The left honestly should drop any kind of respectability politics and take the gloves off when dealing with that slime because it's really really really easy to deal with a former astrologer who was leader of a pseudo-muslim cult when you treat him with the contempt he deserves.
>Integralists bomb literal christfags
>>192049 and nothing of value was lost
>>192049 Hwhat? Source?
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>>192126 What a second, these weren't Christians-- >>literal christfags AYY LMAO But honestly, that article reads like shitty fanfic, doesn't it? Comedians are the victim of a seemingly deliberately weak firebomb, designed more to generate publicity than anything else. Ski masks? Attacking what amounts to a corporations? The integralist and monarchist flags? Calling mealy-mouthed liberals Marxist blasphemers? And most of all, "Popular Nationalist Insurgency Command of the Large Brazilian Integralist Family"? This feels like an old-style terrorist attack if it had been penned by Chris-chan. And regardless of the bad script, their intention no doubt is to signal to the rest of the reactionary scum who has been disappointed on Bozo for all the wrong reasons. The odds of it catching on, as it were, are minimal, but, being reactionaries, absolutely anything they gain is a loss for society at large. God knows they don't need to be in charge in order to shit things up. Which leads me to... >>192053 Whomever was the target, honestly, doesn't matter. What matters is, we got in this situation because, to put it at its most basic, a lot of people who should have paid dearly never did, and now both their literal and their proverbial children get to enjoy their ill-gotten and ill-inherited riches to their heart's content. I refer to all the bandits who ever plagued us these past 520 490 years, yet we don't even need to aim that high. The worst situation, by which I mean the one we're currently in, could have been avoided by way of things far easier and less demanding than a revolution or even a pig-butchering """terrorist""" group. A thorough cleasing of these many subspecies of dungticks is, all of us here are aware, an absolute necessity if the country is ever to be free and develop. But we -- not as in we the left but we Brazilians -- could have gotten a lot of benefit from far, far less work than such an Herculean task. We could have avoided this particularly bad situation with relatively little action. Do you know why we got shunted from the bad timeline to the (almost) worst timeline? Because Bozo has been saying shit for decades and getting hit for never. Because one of his sons kisses the asses of militiamen and hasn't gotten his teeth kicked in. Because another one of his sons has been living at our expense as a legislator while barely ever going to work and has never had his kneecaps broken. Because one of his sons took pictures wearing a shirt honoring a particularly awful torturer inside the halls of Congress and somehow is still in possession of all appendages with which he was born. Ultimately, pathological reactionaries, being impervious to moral considerations, are kept in check solely by superior force. And an ironic corolary is that they don't even react to any well-deserve justice they get served with retributive violence, because they never hold violence back as a last resort to begin with. They will always, without fail, use everything they can against you with the sole consideration being not suffering repercussions, meaning the left will get shafted to the best of their abilities regardless, and not because, of any degree of extremism on its part. This means that, unless the left does something which allows Porky to enact until-then socially unacceptable repressive measures (remember, reactionaries only have only practical considerations, not moral ones) so as long as it doesn't allow him to cross that threshold, it doesn't much matter what the left does (which, incidentally, is intrinsically linked to the fascist methodology of eroding civiization, as it lowers that threshold for their barbaric policies). The mere fact that the left does anything at all is all justificative for Porky to do his absolute worst, observing the repercussions limits. And whenever he wants to cross that threshold, he will do so wholly independently of the left itself, as the Reichstag BBQ shows. And let me emphasize the fully un-institutional nature of these actions, because the anti-PT campaign and The Clowning which ensued have proven that the Brazilian establishment have nothing to fear from Brazilian institutions. The already slim chances of a peaceful reckoning, realignment and sanitation of our institutions, an extremely rare event in historical terms to begin with, are now, beyond any debate, zero -- assuming they weren't already zero in the first place.
>>192699 Have you noticed the recent activities of communist parties all acroos the world? The CPUSA seems to be changing back to it's roots, the KKE can basically take Greece if they want and PCB tried some recruitment in some unions (i have heard from based university bro). Times a changing, i even met a christcom the other day by chance
New year, new minimum wage! Congrats on your extra 42 HUEbux raise, peasants. A whopping 4.2% increase, below the inflation rate for the first time in 20 years! And while I'm at it, let me remind you that the 2019 increase, despite being higher than 2018's inflation rate, was lower than what Congress had greenlit. How many times can you go back to Disneyland this year with this new princely sum?
>>188252 It's hard to find economists worth a damn in this day and age, isn't it? Neoliberal ones obviously were never worth a damn, the the more capitalism goes awry, economists farther away from the neoliberal consensus lose worth as well. I'm sorry but I don't have any actual economists to reccomend. Journalists, philosophers etc. who talk about economy, sure, but not economists. Well, besides Cockshott, I suppose. >>192010 He really is the lowest of the low. Flat-out a scammer who chose a very obscure niche, and it paid off in spades due to factors completely outside his reach. I want to emphasize the complete abnormality of this situation. This situation would have been unthinkable even by Brazilian standards, had Porky not destroyed the laws of fucking physics while ousting PT. This isn't even equivalent to Lyndon Larouche reaching power in America, because Larouche actually built something besides a cult-cum-scam. Not Olavo tho, he's a scammer who fell ass-backwards into a pot of gold. And still managed to fuck things up by wasting the chances of pro-Bozo military coup. >when you treat him with the contempt he deserves. There's a seemingly untractable problem when dealing with obscurantists. They prosper by coming to the attention of idiots, which they obviously do by themselves if you just plain ignore them. Whether you engage respectably or try to debunk them or even simply mock them mercilessly, you'll increase their reach and let more idiots know about him and fall for his bullshit. The issue here is that idiots just plain aren't guided by the same thing as you and I do, which is to say, basic logic. You can't reason with people who deliberately abandon the use of reason (e.g. people like Olavo himself) or aren't capable of it (e.g. the idiots on which they prey). In simple terms, the world would just plain be a better place without these people. But this doesn't fit into liberal democracy's concept of due process. I think it's the sort of thing which requires a whole new school of legal theory, if not a new epistemology. The more I think about the current situation of capitalism, the more I grow convinced that breaking free from it will require a whole new mentality, a radical paradigmatic shift including legal theory, epistemology and far more, a difference larger than the one between Bolshevism and the capitalism of their day was.
Anão dos effort-posts, eu não sei qual foi seu post que falou do Deltan Dinherol mas eu gostaria de dizer que eu realmente acho que ele e pessoas como ele da Lava-Jato, todos da mesma bolha social e cultural da elite de Curitiba, são iludidas ao ponto de terem pretensões messiânicas com forte fundo puritânico-religioso https://noticias.uol.com.br/politica/ultimas-noticias/2019/08/12/igreja-frequentada-por-deltan-foi-sede-de-movimento-que-defende-a-lava-jato.htm Eles são crentes na própia missão e isso explica muito das maluquices como a construção de um monumento contra a corrupção e pretensões políticas. O meme muito repetido que os neo-pentecostais querem um regime talibã cristão no Brasil é verdade, tem figuras demais com um visão e ideologia para isso, não é só usar crente como massa de manobra, eles são os crentes! https://www.esmaelmorais.com.br/2019/12/integralista-e-nomeado-assessor-da-ministra-damares/ https://apublica.org/2018/05/integrantes-da-lava-jato-vivem-na-mesma-bolha-diz-pesquisador-da-ufpr/ Demais,eu desejo um 2020 de luta e coragem para todos os camaradas. Eu vou procurar me afastar das imageboards e do vício em shitposting para poder colocar a leitura em dia, começar a trabalhar e procurar um partido/movimento com o qual eu possa somar localmente. Não existe esquerda sem teoria e política não pode ser feita longe do povão. Temos que acreditar e fazer.
>>188252 Ladislau Dowbor and Laura Carvalho are supposed to give the leftist perspective of our current economical system and situation http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=17CFDB8EB2CE7FADB1F047C34C2803A1 http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=754A363E8162B470E997C3731C4949DA Remember when Bolso said Laura´s book was trash because she was a Psol economist? https://revistaforum.com.br/politica/livro-de-laura-carvalho-explode-em-vendas-e-ganha-reimpressao-apos-post-ironico-de-bolsonaro/ Top kek.
Presidential news in years past: >"Lula was invited to be keynote speaker at an international economic meeting" >"Dilma has been named one of the most powerful women in the world" >"Bolsonaro might have to cancel his family vacations at a Navy base because he fell and hit his head" None of these things were made up, by the way.
>>193616 I like how the fist two things you posted are normal and argueably good things and the last thing takes a nose dive into a pile of garbage
>>193585 Tl'dr on ladislau?
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Ladies and gents, I present to you the hardcore terrorist who splashed some office building's front glass with a molotov. His uncovered face was caught by some random street security camera, and after a brief consultation with experts to make sure it wasn't an unknown Australopithecus species, he was identified as one Eduardo Fauzi Richard Cerquise. He's currently in Russia, having flown there two days after the "attack" and one before the arrest warrant. Russia has an extradition agreement with Brazil, however, and Putin's boyz have been asked to not disregard any recent reports of Bigfoot sightings, and Interpol, to declare him an international fugitive. Altho, this being Bozo's government and all, it's entirely possible they didn't notify anyone and just said they did. Anyway, it's unlikely he actually ran away. He has a return ticket for late January, and he travels the world often, both to meet his Muscovite girlfriend and to participate in zouk events. By the way, there's this thing called zouk, which is a Caribbean dance which actually was probably what cheesy 80s American movies called LAMBADA, THE FORBIDDEN DANCE. His rap sheet contains no less than 20 entries, including violence against women, extortion, threats, and punching a city security secrety right as he was giving an interview. Eduardo was pissed off because cops paid a visit to the unregistered parking lot at which he worked. He's president of a "car-minders" association. That would be what most of us call flanelinhas, but since this is Rio we're talking about, he's a suspect in a larger case revolving around several such illegal parking lots controlled by, wouldn't you know, militias. Along with the arrest warrant, search warrants at various places where he lived and worked netter, among other things, combat knives, fake guns and 119k reais in cash. The investigation started in 2011 and still did jack shit. Militias aren't the only thing connection this gentlecromagnon to Bozo, as he happens to be enlisted in PSL. He's a rather veteran member, however, having joined all the way back in 2001, whereas during the intervening years, Bozo has gone through seven parties. Altho hopes that the missing link had been finally found were dashed, he's an undeniable specimen of pathological reactionary, altho not a particularly revolting one. Still, he exemplifies the disorder perfectly. The core, telltale sign of deep hypocrisy rooted in genuine doublethink is undeniable -- just yesterday he posted a video calling the comedians criminals, bandits and whatever else. No matter what crimes he commits, he genuinely still thinks himself a moral paragon because his cognitive processes are fucked up. He's not just a flawed character, but consistently displays anti-social behavior (a small clarification here; despite the misuse of the word, the actual meaning of anti-social is to cause harm to society, not to have sificulty socializing). It's beyond clear that he's a net negative to the world, to put it mildly. Yet there's no institution in the modern world which would be fit to house and reform him. Or heal him, if you will, which is the chief reason why the typification of reactionarism as a personality disorder ought to take place. It's insane to leave such predators roam free merely because we can't fit all the damage he inflicts on other people in a single legal term.
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>>193802 The first two are meant to be good things, yeah. The anti-PT campaign really did a number on everyone, it was nothing short of Pavlovian conditioning. It's plain fact that, during his terms, Brazil was the best it had been since at least the mid-50s, possibly ever, and Brazil's image before the world reflected it. Lula was visited by more former heads of State in his 1.5 years in prison than Bozo will ever meet. >>193575 É dose mesmo. Aquela escumalha gringa tipo Pat Robertson e Ted Haggard é que inspirou esta onda evangélica que, não à toa, está entupida de vigaristas e sociopatas atuando como pastores. A medida perfeita contra esses crimes disfarçados de fé, ironicamente, foi dada pelos próprios criminosos: templo sem partido. O povo pode estar hipnotizado pelos pseudo-bispos, mas ainda é povo. Com um pouco de consciência de classe, ele pode, e deve, agir como vigilante da própria fé, e denunciar os pilantras que usam da posição religiosa pra falar merda. A regra é simplíssima: se meteu a falar de política, perdeu isenção fiscal (aliás, vale a pena ter meter um imposto altíssimo sobre os falsos templos, pra ajudar os pastores a não cair em tentação), e os próprios fiéis seriam os vigias. É uma medida tão moral quanto prática, e ainda tem valor em fazer o povo utilizar de sua agência e ser, um pouco de cada vez, dono do sua vida. "Empoderamento", com o perdão da palavra amaldiçoada. É claro, não soluciona completamente o problema, e essa laia merece muito, mas muito pior que isso, mas um passo de cada vez. Dentro de uma democracia burguesa, esse passo já cobriria uma distância enorme. >>192972 I had heard about some of them but I didn't really notice a trend. I dunno, I don't think it's a turning point yet. I think a good deal holding is back is, literally, memetic. Anti-capitalist sentiment is slowly gorwing, that much is undeniably, yet it seems to be completely unfocused and wasted, and I think it's to do, if not with socialism's history itself, at least the public perception of it. People are increasingly open to an alternative to capitalism as opposed to just succdem duct-taping a bursting dam, yet any talk of socialism both evokes all the worst things, and we, to this day, haven't managed to fix that. There has always been a lot of talk of the left "reinventing itself" (probably since the fucking Russian Revolution), some of it with intention to dismantle it, but I think it's a real demand, for practical reasons if nothing else. Think of it like this: a lot of people out there having second thoughts about the status quo will, for good or ill, think of the Stalinist and Maoist excesses -- and a shitload of fabrications Porky created over a fucking century -- as soon as they see or hear leftist symbols and terminology, yet they could be taught the truth if only they touched base with us, but those very fears which need to be dispelled keep them from reaching us to dispell them. So a reinvention of, at the very least, the "exterior" aspects, the symbolism, the motifs, the lingo and sho on, just plain is needed. And this shouldn't be some cynical rebranding, but the call for a new chapter of socialism, and one which is direly needed, as capitalism seems to have began it's decay stage. Picture the European revolutionaries, who looked back to the Paris Commune as a shining ideal of how things could be -- and of mistakes to be studied and corrected. Yet they didn't hold it as an actual ideal. They always set out to create their own thing. The Bolsheviks referred constantly to the Commune, among other watershed events of the left, yet didn't cast themselves from its mold. Imagine, for example, that instead of riding the revolutionary fervor to try to remake society completely, including its artistic innovations and symbols like the hammer and sickle, the constructivist aesthetics and such, they sidelined that and instead adopted the look and the outlook of the Commune and the French Revolution. Adopting both the Frigian cap as symbol and the sad docility of the Commune as practice. Well that's more or less what the world's entire far lef has been doing for 30 years with the Bolsheviks themselves. Needless to say, it isn't working. If a new chapter in our history is to finally begin, there needs to be innovation in shape and substance, and it seems that, somewhat ironically, the new shape is harder to create than the substance. We have endless theories and proposals that never were acted upon, a lot of it made during the Cold War itself, as, historically, real socialism staunchly ignored "outsider" influence in shaping socialism. Part of Stalin's legacy. Yet for all this substance, we don't have a vessel to collect and hold it, and in the process, to give it shape. So I'd say that the first step, at the moment, is to have a new presentation, because ideas we already have in overabundance. And this new presentation (which isn't just aesthetics but also organization, methodology and all these meta topics of political practice) will have to get us to just plain tone down the hammers and sickles and red flags, and even more so the references to the Stalins and Maos. Not that they should be forgotten, but simply that they shouldn't be exalted. They had mixed results and real socialism fell terribly short of its goals, but that's no reason to either cling to it nor to forsake it. That's what Zizek has been saying all along about abandoning ideology. Take the history of socialism, all the good and bad, assimilate it and sublate it, and move on. Sublation really is a key term here. Neither renege it in pusilanimous "but it wasn't REAL socialism" fashion, nor take it as dogma (again, Stalin's legacy), but as a thesis, which should always be presented with criticism and improved upon with antitheses. Own up to our past and in order to create our own future, not forgetting it nor clinging to it, as the old revolutionaries regarding the Paris Commune.
>>194877 The problem with changing aesthetics, rethoric and even tactics is that people (due to mcarthian pathologies given to them for over 90 years) will believe some sort of conspiracy is happening and completely discard the movement as a "chinese/cuban/northkorean plot". These aesthetics are indeed old and obsolete however they are the ones that stuck in the collective minds of the people due to groundbreaking historical presence, the soviets have flown these symbols up to fucking space, how are we to reinvent this? The best way i believe to restart our movements i by abandoning populism and simply stating our goals, development roadmaps, ideological reasons and ideals as coldly and unfeeling as possible, no skin, no meat, no bone, only brain. People nowadays are more concerned with cosmetics than results, i know, but they are also mesmerised by the intellectuality and technology of this millenium like an italian futurist, the reactionaries have the privelege of being able to invest in both equally, we do not, so we must compensate with the fact that we are the ones with genuine basic truth and concern over our world, the rightists don't have this privilege, they only have the lie that they mask as truth, but we (as flawed as it may be) are the ones with the analisys, the research, the history and legacy that proves our true power as shapers of nations and destinies for the better. I also think switching to syndicalism instead of communism makes most sense since the material conditions have changed so much that syndicalism is no longer an aspect of communism but communism is now an aspect syndicalism as shown by the later years of the Soviet Union, that being urbanisation leading to a increase in complexity of production that labor councilism couldn't handle.
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oq acham deles, anons? São vermelho pilulados ou cringe?
>>194726 Leu a entrevista que o sujeito deu? Tive flashbacks de discussões em chans.
>>195007 > I also think switching to syndicalism instead of communism makes most sense since the material conditions have changed so much that syndicalism is no longer an aspect of communism but communism is now an aspect syndicalism as shown by the later years of the Soviet Union wat >>197942 ayy these are trots who are just really good at harassing people
>>198364 >wat Just my autism speaking, the important bits are a above it
>>197942 Os dois, mas com características gonzaloístas
bump, quais são suas opinioes sobre as falas do Bozo e das FFAA e os impactos do conflito EUA-Irã (que vão repercutir aqui quase ctz)?
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>>201666 Sabe o nosso superavit comercial com o Irã? Aquele que era enorme? Pois é, vai deixar de existir. Talvez uma falsa bandeira tipo aquela que aconteceu na Argentina em 94 para chamar de nosso(outro celso daniel para nos assombrar).
>>198350 Foi no 55/BR que eu primeiro encontrei esses pirados no começo dos 2010s, faz sentido que muitos deles foram pílulados lá
>>207827 It's okay, they are not exactly wrong. It's Celso Amorin talking about what he knows. Fun fact: he was at one time supposed to run for Rio de Janeiro state government in Marcia Tiburi's place, but backed out. Similar rumors also go that he was at one point supposed to run for president instead of Haddad early on, but Haddad was more popular at the time and probably less divisive.
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E ao que parece o secratario da cultura num video mal diagramado citou goebbels com wagner de trilha sonora. No mesmo dia em que se discutiu o dia inteiro sobre a venda de orgãos.
>>217457 Saiu para a puta que pariu. Que volte para o esgoto. Só deus e o diabo sabem quem será o sucessor. Mas que vala meteram o país, e pior que foi um bando de toscos.
>>217923 O sucessor deve ser mais um olavista do nacional-taxismo. O cara já fez o estrago e essa saída permite ele continuar fingindo que tá lutando contra o "sistema" e a hegemonia "socialista". Velez saiu e veio alguém pior, a tendência aqui é ser a mesma merda que o Velez.
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>>218256 >Regina Duarte Also, reminder that this secretary of culture used to be a ministry.
>>217457 I'd like to point that this strategy of theirs, of setting the topic of debate to terrible shit both to degrade public debate and keep the enemy from setting the topic, can be an opportunity to fight back. At least it provides a perfect opportunity to steal the moralist soapbox from under them, and smear them into the ground, treating them as lower than worms, summoning all the moral outrage which is completely ours by right. Turn this cowardly tactic against them.
Honestly, this secretary fiasco shows the situation is improving. Months ago, he would have remained in the job. The fact that the circus has to answer (or thinks it has to answer) to someone other than themselves means omninormalization is faltering and it's a step towards actual normality. And hey, Regina isn't an olavist, which is also another good sign. Altho the Globo connection is quite a surprise. Are they offering an olive branch? If so, it demonstrates just how little power they have, since this overrides their pathological drive to make no allies, only submissive lackeys. >>217923 >Mas que vala meteram o país, e pior que foi um bando de toscos. Isso é algo de que venho pensando em analisar, a estratégia que presumo que a velha escória adotou pra tentar consertar essa fuzarca. Ela quer afastar o circo e restaurar a normalidade, mas não a normalidade pré-junho. Estão desmontando a LJ e desfazendo o feitiço, mas de tal modo que a verdade não transpareça. Querem substituir a hiperrealidade zoada que criaram por acidente com uma mais a seu gosto, o que significa que continuará a ocultar a natureza da LJ e dos golpes e, sobretudo, a verdade sobre a inocência de Lula e da falsidade de quase todos os "fatos"que atribuem ao PT. Enfim, querem dar um soft reset nessa bodega, pois se quisessem que toda a verdade fosse exposta, poderiam fazê-lo o instante em que quisesse, e, ora pois, já o teriam feito. Logo, o fato de não terem desfeito o feitiço de sopetão mostra que querem fazer um serviço mais "caprichado", pra esconder sua participação na criação do primeiro. Isto é até compreensível, mesmo porque, sem a velha escória, não temos condição de sair desta enrascada. O que não é compreensível é que, como eu disse, este soft reset vai tentar ao máximo manter as mentiras pós-junho. A nova hiperrealidade que querem instaurar não inclui admitir que Lula é inocente, que o impeachment contra Dilma foi golpe palaciano etc. etc., disso você pode ter certeza. Pintará Lula como um injustiçado que teve seu direito a um julgamento justo violado, sem dar um veredito sobre sua culpa, e esse será todo o crime imputado à LJ, lavada de todo seu aspecto conspiracionista e sedicionista. Os envolvimentos de FHC, de pelo menos 3 juízes do STF, de ao menos um ex-PGR e sabe lá Deus quem mais serão convenientemente deixados de fora. A diferença entre esta narrativa tosca em que desembocamos e a que querem impor é, apenas, mudar o status de Lula de culpado de tudo e mais um pouco' para 'talvez ele roubou, talvez não, mas não teve julgamento justo, então vamos assumir inocência e deixar este triste episódio para trás', e Bozo cai automaticamente, mesmo porque só não caiu ainda porque não há nem uma mísera brisa tentando derrubá-lo. E todos nós sabemos que Lulinha Paz e Amor aceitará este compromisso. Qualquer semelhança com a piada de mal gosto chamada de anistia não é mera coincidência. Isto é algo ao qual a esquerda pode agarrar-se. Se algum de vocês trabalha dentro da esquerda institucional, a hora é de radicalizar o discurso, não só política quanto moralmente. Aliás, o tom moral é até mais importante no momento, em que a esquerda ainda está em desvantagem. Nem Lula nem PT tem a menor intenção de mover-se para a esquerda, então cabe aos quadros empurrá-los nessa direção. Meio que como eu escrevi sobre Sun Yat-sen aqui: >>88391
>>217457 I got curious about that cross, but it seems that particular design doesn't have significance, at least none I or him recognize. Apparently, the addition of an upper, shorter bar represents a higher authority within the Latin church, tipically archbishops, and the addition of yet another, shorter horizontal bar makes for the papal cross. Other than that, it has some vague cultural association with French Christendom. A rather forgotten use of this design was by French Jesuit missionaries to North America, because it resembled a symbol of tribes unnamed in Wikipedia. Nowadays, it's mostly associated with the Orthodox cross, a favorite of the armchair crusader, but it's missing the telltale slanted lower bar, symbolizing the footrest -- leaving the crucified to hang by their nailed hands and feet alone might result in him falling off the cross, you see.
>>218392 You never been south? In the missões region? It was used there during the jesuitic missions. There's a fucklot of names for it, with it either being French or Spanish.
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>>218401 I never even heard of such a thing as Missões region. I heard of cities in that area before but I confess I was unaware of this uniting feature. Mystery solved. Even tho it was a mystery only to me, apparently.
>>218404 You are not alone, most people were wandering what the fuck was going on with the cross which still doesn't have any sort of special meaning in the cringesphere as far as I know. There's a way to the left to reclaim that legacy if anyone cares for some Christian socialism, Clovis Lugon wrote an interesting book about the Jesuit rule called Republica Guarani.
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>>218431 I figured maybe the guy was born in that region and googled for his birthplace, but didn't manage to find anything. He is, however, a "fervorous Catholic" since 2017, after recovering from cancer, which he attributed to a miracle. Until then a leftist (presumably of the ciranda flavor, as I can't find much information about him) and a firm atheist -- I sense a pattern here -- his religious turn was followed by appreciation for my friend and yours, OLAVOOOOO. At least he didn't go full basic-bitch convert by become another fairweather evangelic. I guess this explains that cross. He headed one Club Noir, a renowned theater company, since 2006, which however closed its doors last June. The artist attributed it to, of course, political persecution by his fellow artists who had, up until recently, respected him abloo bloo bloo. But he didn't have any problems finding a job, as he was appointed head of Funarte the same fucking month. Cue the 0 _days_without_mamata.jpg again. Notice, again, how the bastards normalized all the "old politics" simply by doing it shamelessly, and will never face repercussions. At any rate, he immediately called on his fellow reactionary artists to create a "cultural war machine". In September, Veja revealed he tried to hire his wife's company for a sweet $3,5m government contract, for which he's now under investigation (and let me point out that an investigation surrounding such a glaring offense is the sort of systemic flaw of bougie democracy which we ought to correct). Other sections of the office managed to block the deal, which reinforces the importance of a mix of appointed and professional staff positions in public organs. Later on, Fernanda Montenegro posed as a witch about to be burned for a cultural magazine, which TRIGGERED him to no end. He whined all the self-victimization that rightwingers rattle off like reading from a script, she offended me and millions of Brazilians, this was a serious aggression against Brazil and the federal government blah blah blah. In november, his mamata was upgraded to the position he just lost. He got to appoint his successor, a similar cretin who made cretinous statements about satanism in rock music. This isn't a joke, by the way. He also made the soon-to-be-blocked nomination of professional house nigger and tranny admirer Sérgio Nascimento (>>142581), which is more or less another mamata. In December, the cap for Rouanet projects was raised from 1m to 10m (incidentally, the limit to 1m would have killed, among other things, the São Paulo Bienal, MASP, MAM, the official symphonic orchestras of both the couontry and the São Paulo state), but even when going back on their own crimes, this bunch manages to fuck up in the form of badly written regulation. And here we are now, with the Goebbels shtick. The one good thing which can be attributed to him was firing someone appointed before his time at the culture secretary once he discovered she was a failed candidate at the previous elections and was in hot water because her campaign expense declarations were rejected. Or so he claims. She says she was fired for disagreeing with him. I checked her party, and it's PSD, an opposition party implying the government has a single fucking party in their base by now. He provides an interesting case study for my thepry of the reactionary pathology. He looks like a textbook case, yet has only recently been so after literally converting. I have to look into his past and see if he displayed the reactionary flavor of anti-social behavior before then.
>>218469 Oh, and I forgot what might be the best detail. While researching for that post, I found out that Roberto Alvim was nominated head of the culture secretary as it was being transferred between ministries. It was at the ministry of citizenship (citizenry?), and is now housed at the ministry of tourism. Yes, culture is subordinate to tourism. Isn't this a perfect reflex of the lumpen mentality of our ruling classes?
Yet another little detail I learned when researching this latest effortpost. There is one Saint Chad, and he even has a cross design named after him. Is there meme potential?
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>>218488 The Virgin Mary vs The Saint Chad
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O que os camaradas acham do Jones Manoel?
>>218878 MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO MITO
I think my guess that the firing of the culture secetrary demonstrating the circus' weakness was right. Today, Globo dug up some of the many, many crass Portuguese errors of the education minister, which I can only attribute to them also noticing blood in the water. >>218878 Legítimo intelectual orgânico, coisa cada vez mais rara não só no Brasil. Manja dos paranauê e tem carisma, fazendo dele um líder em potencial. Sem dúvida ele já seria muito mais conhecido se tivesse acesso a aulas de oratória, auto-promoção e burguesices similares. Uma crítica que faria não seria só a ele, mas a toda a esquerda brasileira que tem a sabedoria de nem idolatrar Stálin nem ficar na eterna lenga-lenga de ficar condenando-o e pedindo desculpas pelos seus crimes. Mesmo não sendo stalinistas, eles acabam passando a impressão de o serem meramente ao não renegá-lo de imediato, mesmo porque redes sociais favorecem frases de efeito ("não houve Holodomor") ao invés de nuances ("houve, sim, uma fome terrível, que, porém, não foi proposital" etc.). Creio que a pivetada reacionária usa disso pra pintá-los de estereotípicos comedores de criancinha.
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Cartoons from the very recent past already seem like they immensely overestimated Bozo's threat.
>>218878 É ok. É insuportavelmente orgulhoso, mas acho que isso está como uma característica de todo pernambucano. >>219868 >intelectual orgânico Nem tanto. Acompanho ele desde o comecinho, ele estudou e trabalhou muito na questão do marketing, de como se apresentar, como construir um público. Na internet de hoje não existe o acaso. É bastante similar ao trabalho da Sabrina Fernandes, que sabemos ter uma preocupação com alcance e interação com o público da interwebs. Nesse ponto, eles não são muito diferentes de escritores badalados em outras áreas do mercado editorial. Evidentemente, não estou diminuindo o trabalho teórico de ninguém. Só chamando a atenção que há alguns truques por trás.
>>219868 >stalin Cara, minha crítica a isso é que em termos práticos esses nomes são irrelevantes para o Brasil hoje.
Yep, Globo did smell blood in the water, and is now gunning after the education minister. Speaking of which, is anyone else surprised that ENEM actually took place as planned? I actually expected it to have questions using Olavo's dreck as their basis. They certainly have the chutzpah for it, it's probably more a matter of someone within the office blocking their worse bullshit. And then they come along and fuck the grading up. When it comes to rightwingers, it's always best to assume the worst, so I'll assume sabotage until proven otherwise. On the other hand, I severely overrated this crew when I said there wouldn't be public high education by next year. >>221263 >É insuportavelmente orgulhoso Não percebo exatamente orgulho, mas noto que ele é mais ríspido que a média quando algum desinformado vem com besteira, quer haja má fé, quer não. Pulso firme no diálogo é algo de que precisamos muito. Ele exagera e acaba alienando os que vêm em boa fé. Também, boa parte disso é o próprio formato das mídias sociais. Elas fomentam retórica disfarçada de dialética. Comecei a digitar sobre debate aqui e ficou meio grande, vou extender até fazer um postão que postarei posteriormente. >Nem tanto. Acompanho ele desde o comecinho Ora pois. Mas ele é professor do ensino público, não? No Brasil, esse é o trabalho mais proletário que existe. >>221268 Pois é, em termos estritamente práticos, não importa, mas em se tratando de diálogo, é uma armadilha que a reaçada nunca vai parar de abusar pra assustar a audiência, e quando se trata de "recrutamento", o espectro de Stálin ainda importa. Ela é fundamentalmente desonesta, então é bom prestarmos atenção pra não dar deixa pra eles difamarem ainda mais.
Wasn't the promise of Bozo's campaign that he would bring the military dictatorship back? What happened?
>>223812 Bozo ended up biting more than he could chew and now he's literally a puppet held by a single thread, the ministries (Paulo Guedes and his team) are selling everything out to the porkies, if there will ever be a dictatorship it will not be like 1964 one
Holy shit huebros >>224286 >Brazilian prosecutors charge journalist Glenn Greenwald with cybercrimes >Brazilian federal prosecutors have charged the American journalist Glenn Greenwald for cybercrimes in a decision which has prompted outrage among press freedom activists – and celebration by allies of far-right president Jair Bolsonaro. >https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/21/glenn-greenwald-charged-cybercrime-brazil Also https://www.rt.com/news/478823-glenn-greenwald-charged-cybercrimes-brazil/ https://theintercept.com/2020/01/21/glenn-greenwald-brazil-denunciation/
>>223808 >[...]Também, boa parte disso é o próprio formato das mídias sociais. Elas fomentam retórica disfarçada de dialética. Isso é algo que me chama a atenção, camarada. É engraçado como discussão na internet sempre tem uma ponta de animosidade embutida.
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Alright fellas, I would like the gringos in the audience, and Brazilians who haven't checked the day's news, to picture this situation. A top-echelon government officer, whom everyone with a braincell knew to be a crook and a liar, was involved in an incident which would be enough to bring him down, but this was not known by the public for a while. When this affair was made public, only the publications whose journalists were directly contacted with the primary source, plus remarkably few other mainstream outlets, exposed the dirt. The most of it duly ignored it as best as possible, and no small part of it actually tried to play it down. Eventually, all the accumulated dirt in public view forced mainstream media at large to actually do their job, but by then, serendipitously, the high officer in question had already reached his objective, cementing himself in power. This describes both Vaza Jato and Watergate. Nowadays, every soyboy with a blog likes to steal valor from the role the media played in bringing a corrupt president down, but as it happens, most of it indeed tried their best to black it out. There are a million plausibly deniable ties between journalists of the time and the White House, the sort of thing which would never fly in court yet is well past doubt to involve foul play. Coverage of Watergate was mostly restricted to 3 newspapers. Big newspapers, but that's beside my point. The issue was what the entire rest of the press was doing. Or rather, not doing. You know when the rest of the media finally caved in and reported on the truth? After Nixon had been re-elected mere 5 months after the scandal broke. That's when American mainstream media finally grew a conscience. This media blackout and the election in question are virtually always excluded from any Watergate retelling. I mean, we all know about it from consuming American media our entire lives, yet how many of you knew these things? Watergate as tragedy, Vaza Jato as farce. Now for the differences. For one, the media's avoidance of Watergate was even more damning than the current one. Since a few big outlets were covering it loudly, the silence of the rest was all the more deafening, and print press was exponentially more important in relation to broadcast press back then. Here, the revelations were made by a tiny, internet-only organ, and even tho it was soon picked up by mainstream outlets, they still failed to reach the vast majority of the population for a reason which will warrant a lot of research in the future: all the outlets which partnered with the broker, The Intercept, are printed. The biggest weekly magazine in the country (and one of the biggest in the world, or so they claim), the two biggest newspapers and several influential reporters and public critics and lesser publications. And it mattered next to nothing, because all open networks boycotted it. Well, to be fair, those other than Globo actually did mention it when it broke, although they shoved it aside as they cozied up to Bozo. I doubt I'll ever see such a curious phenomenon in public media play out so neatly. The biggest print organs, considered major influencers of opinion and setters of the public debate, were revealed to be worthless in the proverbial 4D chess match, tho it's better to say they're not players, they're now just pieces. Even tho they often broke major scandals in the past (to say nothing of many "scandals" of the anti-PT era), they always were reverberated by the rest of the media, as well as politicians. They loved to get on the pulpit wave the magazine or newspapers saying one of their rivals' personal trainer's cousin's landlord was caught jaywalking. But without the broadcast media and the political class backing them up, the influence of print media tends towards zero. They influence the minds of the more educated sections of society, but they don't actually make the news, as it were. They're good as sources, but have zero amplification capacity. The factoid generation process, which we saw working full-throttle against PT, can and does work, even if not at full capacity, without print publications. They are, in this day and age, ancillary for crafting hyperreality. Media studies enthusiasts, take note. To be fair, there's another important set of actors I mentioned: politicians themselves. They always had their own unique role when it comes to crafting hyperreality. As national governments are what virtually the entire humankind today sees as the highest authorities ruling over them, they're considered sort of the official sources of whatever doesn't have a clearly defined official, and that includes the big picture. International affairs, what is and isn't acceptable in public debate, whether this event took place or not, governments are the ultimate source, in a way. Most of the time, most of the media mostly agrees. This happens out of simple shared class interests, and this held true in socialist countries with their State-owned media. Given the obviously lopsided relation of real, applicable power between government and the press, the latter more or less needs to align itself fully in order to have the last say on what's hyperreal and what isn't. This happened organically and fluidly in the anti-PT campaign, for example, and, in normal times, it happens spontaneously, again, out of class interests. And, to finally reach my point here, is that the political class is silent on the VJ revelations. Due to their positions as official sources of everything, whatever they say more or less has to be reported by the media if it is to have any semblance of credibility, and thus, with the media silent, and politicians, which the media has to echo, silent as well, we have this bizarre situation we're in now. I whined a lot of times in the posts above so I won't repeat the details, so to put simply, VJ should have brought down the entire government, if not the entire damn Republic. This is the only conclusion, given the scales and outcomes of past scandals. But it's now excluded from hyperreality almost fully so tough luck. (As to why don't opposition politicians hammer VJ home and thus prod the news to cover it to some degree, it takes a whole lot more analysis. Some other time.) Which brings me to the big Globo (which, I point out, is nominally the only anti-Bolsonaro broadcast network, yet has acknowledged VJ's existence the least because Moro connects the two of them) prime time newscast. They dedicate an uncommonly long segment to a prosecutor's official indictment of Glenn Greenwald and six other names related to VJ. The crux of his argument is that Greenwald already was in contact with a supposed hacker before the latter managed to acquire the VJ material. By now, it's impossible to smear the sources into the ground and setting the foot down on the leaks being fabricated, adultered or stolen and close the case, and a high government officer having moved against it finally forced Globo to engage this sordid mess. So they can only stall the inevitable. Thus, Globo (and the rest of the broadcast press too, no doubt) adopted what is possibly the single most important trick of the purportedly free media: to create a "debate" surrounding something which is factually and objectively settled. This is an unbelievably powerful tool when it comes to crafting hyperreality, as it allows them to both normalize or "abnormalize" anything, if circumstances allow, and, peculiarly, it wasn't available to the authorities of socialist countries. In the typical false dichotomy narrative that the press loves to play, "stating only the facts so the viewer makes the judgment", we saw Globo keeping the audience wondering for many minutes, did Greenwald collude with the hacker or didn't he? Were the leaks stolen or bought, or weren't they? Does this make them illegal or not? And doing all of this without ever mentioning quite why the supposedly hacked leaks are worthy of attention in the first place. The proverbial court of public opinion judging someone accused of an unknown charge. A perfectly Brazilian twist on Kafka's classic tale. Isn't that the very definition of
>>224293 I now realize I probably misused "indictment" instead of "charge" when writing >>224798 Anyway, I find this move rather strange. I know the prosecutor's office is still firmly pro-LJ, but it's obvious by now that everyone who isn't a Moro or Bozo fanboy would shit on that and it will go nowhere. Ignoring it as much as possible is their best choice. As a matter of fact, forcing the media to talk about the damn leaks might have been a far, far more important consequence. I asked myself if maybe this wasn't a clever move by an anti-Moro or -Bozo prosecutor, but it turns out that's the same guy who charged the national bar association chairman for bullshit reasons when Bozo got into a spat with him. So this seems to have been another case of their own incompetence betraying them.
>Jeff Bezos hacked by Saudi crown prince Moro's brand of bullshit diversion is catching on.
Assista a este vídeo e me diga que Lula não é o problema. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Mzsqo0zLg Fellas, we have to kill Lula, or at least put him in a retirement home because he's holdingus back.
>>226655 mais uma perda de tempo inconsolável.
>>224798 >Isn't that the very definition of The very definiton of what, anon?
>>227162 Well shit, it's not the first time the board software removes the last few characters of a post of mine which is close to the limit. I wrote "the very definition of a farse?" >>226308 The real problem is that he's literally the least of our problems. I mean, without him, what does Brazil have? Dória? Witzel? >>226655 >>227111 Aposto que isso é uma jogada pra atrair os normies, aproveitando a atenção que a Globo está trazendo. Afinal, a Skynet deve estar, sem dúvida, chamando-os de bolcheviques desde o indiciamento do GG. Não que eles não sejam liberais de esquerda, mas é como eu falei antes sobre dar um tempo pros símbolos antigos, isso tem um lado pragmatismo.
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>Taiwan elege cosplayer pro parlamento Isso não teria acontecido na China porque é um país sério.
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They cain't actually do this to Glenn boi can they?
>>228068 He could get released after bozo is out.
>>228068 They don't have the backing to do jack shit anymore outside of ministerial work besides spread fake news. In fact, jailing him would provide the perfect pretext for impeachment, as it would circumvent the slow dismantling of LJ. Come to think of it, I just now noticed that despite there being (perhaps literally) a thousand reasons to impeach him, it doesn't happen because there is no pretext, which would be the hyperreal reason. Conversely, Dilma was impeached on hyperreal reasons, completely lacking a real one.
>>228071 When's that
>>228068 >They cain't actually do this to Glenn boi can they? Jail somebody for over 6 centuries ? No, they can't, neither Glenn nor the "Bozo-regime" would last anywhere near that long. If they try to imprison him they risk increasing his clout enough for him to gain actual political power. Any body know the legal machinery enough to explain why they have these cartoonish sentencing durations.
>>228835 Before november, in all likelihood. That's when the next STF judge is set to compulsorily retire due to old age, and no one on this gay Earth outside the circus -- which by now is just the clan, their entourages (i.e. partners in crime), whomever is curently in jobs the president allocates and, of course, Olavo and his gimps -- wants a Bozo-annointed cretin fagging the place up. >>228872 These are just the added years of all charges, it's not that rare common for them to be immense. You never watched some movie based on real events where a perp is condemned to multiple life sentences or thereabouts? The mess that is the Brazilian legislation plus the immense power of magistrates further help inflate it. The sky is the limit, they just need to be creative. Of course, this sticks out like a sore thumb because the recipients of those triple digits are usually serial killers. Given this stratospheric number and the prosecutor's role in the OAB president's case, I'm guessing he's a loyalist toadie trying to impress the boss.
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>>228872 A lot of bolsolieber twitterers are so happy about it. What's with those people they remind me of the Bolivian right winger pititas man, fuck those weirdos.
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>>229240 Using dumbshit publicity stunts to agitate the ever-dwindling and mostly fake voter base with fake news and internet wanking is literally all the political power they have left. In fact, it's entirely possible that the prosecutor did this purely for them to have something to talk about, because they really have nothing to report. Bozo doesn't propose laws (save for the occasional muh guns kind of shit which gets overridden), he doesn't argue with Congress over which laws they propose (except for threatening to veto), he doesn't meet any foreign dignataries which aren't already part of the already-stagnant lobotomized right, and he sure as fuck doesn't get invited to international meetings. His ministers, on the other hand, are doing a lot, but what they're doing is exactly the sort of thing they don't want to publicize. And the key concept here is that they have to show something in order to continue in power, even if it's just to remind everyone that he's still there at all because we put him there. Past presidents didn't mind not having the press' attention, and PT probably wish that had been the case. But here in Bizarro world, they have to find a way to keep appearing on the news, because that's pretty much the only way to fuel the internet rabble, and the latter is the last discernible group which audibly wants him in power. And the real oddity here is that it doesn't matter that the vast majority of them are bots and sockpuppets. For someone elected as a fictional candidate, fictional supporters are enough. And this holds true even for an election, as Bozo's campaign demonstrated by painting him as the real ruler the people want but They don't. A fake silent majority. One of the peculiarities of reactionarism is that it doesn't need to be the majority to reach and remain in power. Given that a) they have "inertia" on their side as the keepers of status quo and b) modern politics revolves around popular participation whereas they are by definition elitist, they just plain can't have the support of the majority by being honest. It follows that every single one of their collective actions involves deception, either by fooling non-pathological-reactionaries into their ranks, or by fooling the majority into thinking their ranks are bigger. The defining characteristic of the Brazilian case is that, for the first and hopefully last time, this fictional majority was successfully achieved thanks to the internet. A supposed tool for informing and elevating mankind is, as is typical, corrupted by the right into spreading lies and making the world a worse place. That's the weaponized infocalypse to which I refer and why this is a purely superstructural crisis, perhaps the very first one in the Marxist sense of the word. If social networks banned all those fake profiles, Bozo would finally be pressured to stand down simply because it would be clear no one actually wants him anymore. This virtual mob is the thread by which he's hanging.
>>230877 Lol dude what a hellhole that Twitter bolsoverse is, terrifying. These are about Glenn, the 'bolivarian communist' that should be beaten everyday, apparently.
>>231103 that third one WEW LAD My guesstimation is that all 3 are bots, but I'd bet real money on the third one. Notice how, if you translate one term at a time to Portuguese, it makes perfect sense, until you get to that "deserves to eb beaten every day", which doesn't make sense in any language. When translating the original message to English, it fucked up the meaning of "apanhado, and then built a sentence using that incorrect interpretation which makes no sense in this context. No real person could make this precise mistake, no matter how badly the translation, as it demonstrated he literally doesn't know what he's talking about. Semantics will always be the weak spot of chatbots. I think it's the most neat example of a Turing failure I've ever seen. It's downright elegant.
Toda solidariedade para com os camaradas chineses, que, como nós, não dizem não a UMA DELÍCIA
>this convo about chatbots >there's a good chance that all of the likes and re-tweets are actually just 95% bots liking and re-tweeting other bot posts in a gigantic, digital circlejerk that everyone thinks is real but will never know for sure What a beyond nightmarish rabbit hole to fall into.
>>232519 Aqui agente come macaco no Norte não é?
>>232545 Não creio que seja só no Norte. O pai de um amigo, no Sudeste, comia bunda de saúva frita.
>>232835 Comi muito no interior de São Paulo.
>>232844 E então, como é? Lembra o que? Essa onda de comer insetos que está surgindo está me deixando curioso, adoro um petisco bem seco e crocante e isso parece perfeito.
>>231358 https://mobile.twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1221217960267845632 This here twitter thread, I didn't know bolsominions were avid readers of the Economist, or as some say in the unbelievable amount of comments there "the ecomunist" lel amazing
>>232899 Seco, crocante e ácido, muito ácido. Fica um amargo estranho na boca se você comer muito.
As someone who doesn't understand portuguese and can't name a single geographical spot in brazil, may I ask: is Bolsonaro really all that much bad as the press says or is he more bark than bite?
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>>233799 I like to say that this crew has the willingness to be tyrants but not the capacity. They're subhumans completely devoid of any virtue -- I literally can't think of a good thing to say about them -- and, mercifully, that includes intelligence. They are too dumb even to be fascists. Bozo definitely had a shot at least at a soft coup of some sort, but completely fucked up on all fronts. Well, to be honest, he didn't really do anything, not even get himself elected. His family, partners in crime and assorted attachees run -- and ruin -- the show. They carried him to victory, and off a cliff. It's quite possible that the only things he does in public which came from his own mind are the ad lib moronic statements which fueled his career this far. A telltale sign was last year, during some WW2-related date, in a speech before Congress, he said, almost verbatim, "the crimes of Nazism can be forgiven, but never forgotten. That sentence is mine, I came up with it". And I really can imagine him staying up the previous night, worrying about this speech until the moment he thought he hit gold with that nugget of wisdom which earned him a tut-tut from his dear Bibi. He's a big contender for being the biggest figurehead leader in history. A puppet with a thousand hands up his ass.
>>233910 So he is Brasil's Napoleon the Third? Interesting
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>>234004 If only.
>>232519 Cant imagine /int/ rn
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https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-51254214 Well, soon after I mention he doesn't even talk to Congress except to propose gun bullshit, 03 comes up with a new pile of it. After his shameless attempt to be ambassador to the US failed (reminder that the position had been vacant for months, until daddy tried to give it to him presumably as a birthday gift because it was the day right after his 35th birthday, which just so happens to be the minimum age to hold that office, and he had the balls to say it was a coincidence [and earlier in the year, they ahd changed the rules which stated that only career diplomats could hold that office in the first place]) he's back to muh guns. He claims he has been probing famous gun manufacturers to open up shop in Brazil (the famous bit is, I think, the key term here, as these people are unbelievably small-minded even when it comes to armaments) to "create jobs" and decrease prices. (this just plain wouldn't decrease prices; the notorious PS3 case is a perfect example of Porky not decreasing prices simply because he doesn't want to, as he will these industry segments don't operate on regular competition, and to add salt to the wound, the price was slashed right as production here ceased) He specifically singles out Taurus' infamous stranglehold on the national market, so I guess a certain porky forgot to send the payola cheques. He claim the pro-gun legislation introduced by daddy (almost all of it was shot down by Senate, and what was approved might actually make gun-ownership harder despite making the bureaucracy lighter, because of increased demands for ownership -- which is circumstantial evidence that they planned to "arm the people" while keeping the price too high for them, which is exactly the sort of dishonest tactic they love) for the massive decrease in violent crime (he's flat-out lying without shame; these crime rates have been falling since some point between 2017 and 2018, but that doesn't keep this crew, including Moro, from stealing the credit) that has been plaguing the country since the 80s (it actually began in 1978-1979, smack dab during the dictatorship they love; the 80s was when it ended, so I have no doubt he was deliberately not just whitewashing the blame, but shifting it) when Brazil had the same homicide rate as America (our homicide rates were 3-4x higher) which shows that the Brazilian disarmamentist experiment failed. (up until the anti-gun bill was approved in 2003, buying a handgun was very easy, possibly even easier than in the US thanks to the lax enforcement of the already lax law; it seems crazy today, but you could buy guns at hardware and hunting stores, and even some department stores; up until the current decrease, the anti-gun bill was literally the only thing which had an effect on violent crime rates since they began rising in the 70s) Well then. This complete shitshow is evidence of my theory that the global right has decided to dissimulate 24/7, after realizing that they don't need to worry about even about being called out on the most vile lies. I mean, for fuck's sake, I mentioned in >>230877 that any collective action by the right necessitates some degree of deception, as they're partly defined by opposition of participation of the masses in politics, and Lord knows they never really shied away from it, but I sincerely think they have crossed a threshold now. Liberal republics always had inbuilt "backdoors" to enable a -- suitably dissimulated -- bourgeois class dictatorship. I'll refrain from listing them, as the topic here is the complete freedom from consequence from lying for personal gain (a new word might be needed here, I think, as this goes far beoynd direct, material profit). With them in complete control of the media, the capacity to get away with any lie effectively becomes capacity of rewriting history on the fly, and with the media being inescapable because of near-universal internet, this has the unintended side effect of omninormalization -- but it's not like Porky gives a shit even if he realized this because he's immune to anything, especially from his own mistakes. So this tactic consists in abusing the "backdoors" which always were there. I think this is an important detail, because, at some point in the future, they will look at the causes for the system's slow but, by then, visible and undeniable crumbling down, and will try to paint this as a completely new phenomenon engendered by a few bad apples which ruined the whole barrel of capitalism and liberal democracy. So then, liberal democracy, as it is, is just plain defenceless against this tactic, and it's not unreasonable to assume that it thus can and will be used to destroy it. Bolsonaro was an early opportunity, I suppose, which failed almost completely -- besides plain graft I fear that the more reactionary side of the world bourgeoisie is intent on revoking the few concessions it has made in the past century. They sure have been rolling back the Treinte Glorieuses slowly since circa 1980. A new way to curb this has to be created if democracy, even in this crap form, is to survive. If there was a socialist alternative at the moment, this would be tantamount to capitalists selling us the rope from which they would hang, but as things stands, only morbid symptoms can emerge from the slowly-dilapidated liberal democracy, and the more the latter is chipped away, more of the former manifest, so I suppose it falls to the left to protect bourgeois democracy from the bourgeoisie. This might sound odd to the rest of the world, but in Latin America, it's standard operating procedure. So welcome to a global Brazil, bitches! The country of the future, not just ours but yours too!
>>236997 It is of extreme importance that we use the brazillian situation as a warning for the world expecifically our comrades, the dialectics have led us to this moment and it seems it will only get worse unless a full collapse with a mass death rate happens
Have you noticed that most brazillian online artists are a bunch of porn addicyed libertarian dipshits with afetish for the imperial times?
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>>232538 It seemed to be the case for the Bolivia coup d'etat anyway so you never know
>>236997 >shot down by Senate Meant to say Congress. Altho the lower chamber is the one that does the brunt of day-to-day workload of a functioning government. >I mean, for fuck's sake, I mentioned in >>230877 Whoops, forgot to finish the first sentence. it went "for fuck's sake, this interview of his seems to be literally nothing but lies". >>237048 It seems that, thankfully, the morbid symptom of the retarded right is already abating. Altho this doesn't mean others won't continue or appear. The generalized political autism of the masses is possibly the biggest one. And tho the global right's first offensive against the bougie State seems to have fizzled (ironically, the political autism also makes it more difficult for a sudden change for the worse), I doubt they will give up. And I fully agree that we're not in a different situation from the rest of the world, we're just ahead of the curve. A cautionary tale. The most clear lesson is, I think, to never let popular engagement in politics die down. Even mere sign-waving protests are better than this. A flame must be kept burning, no matter how small, because starting one is far harder than intensifying a tiny one. I couldn't believe when I saw Puerto Ricans pushing their governor's shit in for the sake of homophobic comments, it's far from a revolution but it's a very healthy development. >>237052 By "online artists", I assume you mean e-celebs? Because old celebs seem to be mostly American-style liberals. There definitely is some bullshit going on behind the scene with those reactionary Youtubers, and I'd bet is that, like the bot armies, they're largely Olavo cultists. Part of it is because, thanks to his online-only presence, his oldest followers tend to be more technically savvy.
Weeee we have 3 possible coronavirus cases! I half-expect the circus to celebrate this as evidence that Brazil is finally treated as an equal by foreign powers.
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Been a while since I posted some cringewave.
>>237052 Brazil is literally if the CSA or White Russians won
>>238102 Just fuck my shit up family.
>>237052 The only one who is a leftist is Melkor Mancin, at least the only one that I know.
>>237425 By online artists i meant newgrounds style drawfags, i have noticed that a lot of these people, not just brazillians, are very divorced of what politics actually are and goes with whatever sounds nice
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>>241026 Oh, then I barely know any. Let's gossip a bit. Name and shame, please. Tho they aren't unique. This mindset gained an awful lot of traction these past few years, with the barrage of entrepreneur cult, coaching, precarization of jobs, and crooked evangelical preachers literally putting on a show for money. I think it's another tendency of late stage capitalism, so we're not the only ones, just ahead of the curve, again. As the amount of socially productive jobs decreases thanks to automation (and, in our case, ruling classes bent on preventing development), it's only to be expected that these awful pseudo-jobs proliferate. It feels like everyone is trying to prey on everyone, and it's directly related to the deliberate imbecilization and cultural degeneration our dear porkies foist upon us. I guess it makes sense internet artists, specially smut artists, would be particularly infested with it, as it's the media which has, by far, the most porky propaganda, and foreign at that. Alienation, depolitization of politics and market worship is a recipe to create lolbertarians. That fucking pest could be seen in the last protests in Moscow, over some municipal election shenanigans which the world media tried to hype up. The fucking Gadsden flag could be seen in the pictures. American porkies are so secure at home, they're decidedly investing heavily into brainwashing the rest of the world, and you bet Atlas Foundation is at the forefront.
>>242131 Well there is this one guy i follow on newgrounds, he is a br artist that also happens to be a monarchist or at view the imperial times very fondly, he is also unsurprisingly very anticommunist and believes the whole 150 gorillion meme. He goes by CaptainJingo and his love for the empire seems to stem from a need to view Brazil as something good and glorious
>>242502 >>242131 Some more shit about him: >He supports bolsonaro >Think Paulo Freyre is bad for some reason I forgot to tell you that he is a smut artist
>>242555 >>242502 What was that Mark Fisher talked about cancelled future? Also: >almost furry artist >pedro oliveira The guy is a fucking manchild. I was not even sure what I was expecting, maybe some Tekuho faggotory or voidnosfetaru's brand of faggotory. I'm not effortpost anon, but if you can read portuguese, I recommend searching for Claudio Szynkier(he also goes by andros mikle on twitter), the guy has some obsession in talking about the current cultural brazilian scene and it's death. Not exactly a marxist, or even marxist inspired, but still a fun reading.
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Olha, de todas as coisas que poderia achar dentro da comida, um pedacinho de cabo de cobre estava em último lugar na lista. E num hamburguer artesanal! Só pode ser culpa do Lula. >>242502 >>242555 Damn, he's a stereotype of /pol/ after it went mainstream. The second result on Google is making fanart of the cringewave gang, ayyyyyy. Alright, here's my guess: Still very young, probably below 20. He seems like exactly the sort of socially alienated, politically illiterate and culturally hollow person that our porkies have been working so hard to create. A kid who had the terrible luck of having his formative years happen in post-June Brazil. The cultural desolation drove him to have internet communities as an important influence in his life, where he was easy prey for the altist fad, which he adopted wholesale. A portrait of the useful idiot as a young man. How close am I?
>>242601 Like, despite my harsh words, I don't mean to offend him, because I kind of pity him. Odds are that he's not a pathological case, just a kid misled into politics of which he'll eventually remember with embarassment.
>>242594 I mean culture that is actually good seems to have detached itself from mainstream culture but somehow can't exist without it, it's like a tumor that developed a functioning organ
>>242602 >>242601 >>242594 Something to note here, i believe this is something that isn't brought up at all and that is this need for validation that brazillians have, i mean we all know the meme "haha come to Brazil pls person that is cool". Last year a girl that i was talking with in my uni told that the main issue Brazil has is the lack of a national identity, and this girl was the most neolib basic normie you can imagine, me being the commie international denied such a need saying that it isn't really what will feed people and she didn't even disagree with me, i feel we must analyse from the begining our superstructure to find out what the fuck are we working with
>>242633 >is the lack of a national identity National identity is a fiction, that may have some material basis or not, for the modern state, and Brasil has one, Vargas made sure to create one like Castilhos did with Rio Grande do Sul, but it got so much opposition from the anti-vargas crowd(while being somewhat incorporated by them) that people like to believe we have none. Or at least, that's the impression I get from reading Alfredo Bosi.
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>>242601 >>242602 (damn it, I have to finish my damn train of thought before hitting submit) The reason he strikes me as a non-pathological case is because his reactionarism is too, I don't know, too by-the-numbers. He fits the mold too well. If the ultraporkies who bankroll the internet shill armies handed them a description of the puppet into which they should try to shape their victims, this guy checks out the entire list, a reactionary-by-committee. Dunno, he doesn't seem to have that je ne sais quoi that makes pathological reactionaries stand out. >>242594 >Mark Fisher RIP in F, he saw it coming early and saw it well. He really lived out the role of Cassandra. Before I start, let me apologize beforehand if I sound pessimistic. I'm just calling it like I see it. It's really startling, the way that it seems things are coming together both in literal and metaphorical ways, by design or by accident, so it's hard to tell which is which. Cancelling the future really is the perfect term, because Porky is trying to do nothing short of stop time. He knows his day in the sun, like anyone else's, will end, but damn if he isn't going to try to convince everyone that this is the end of history, that nothing new can happen. Not just revolution, but even reform is now to be avoided. He doesn't have to make concessions any more, after all. And change inspires change, so better not give people any ideas. Just live out the exact same way you did when you were little. The same clothing designs, the same brands plastered over every city in the world, the same sorry excuse for democracy now being hollowed out to stifle his already-meager participation, the same names repeated endlessly accross politics, sports, entertainment or all three, and absolutely every single idea to be had is a self-aware rearrangement of an old one. This cultural stagnation caused by nigh-complete market sublation really fits into Porky's scheme incredibly well, I can't help but wonder how aware of this he was. Because this impossibility to create something new isn't just capitalist degeneration, but an unfortunate and, seemingly, inevitable part of progress. Post-modernism, which definitely wasn't a fruit of any conspiracy, also plays into this, because modernism is when man as a creator of culture went past just making culture, and knew how to make culture. In a way, culture became self-aware, and the other side of the coin is that this awareness of the nature of art, by definition, makes it impossible for there to be something genuinely spontaneous, something truly new, again -- so what is there after modernism? Well, nothing new. Duh. So it can only be defined by the old, ergo post-modernism. After you read a book on the history of art, whether you like it or not, the art you create is bound to be shaped by past art, if not directly, then by your deliberate attempt to avoid it. And this plays into a magnificent allegory, hauntology. Frozen in time, which is also the cultural limbo of post-modernism, all ghosts of the past gather here, in the eternal now. It's impossible to be free of their influence just as much as it is impossible to create something truly new. That is the curse for eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge: what you know can't be unknown, for good or ill. That meta-awareness can't be rolled back, the ghosts can't be banished. Is it possible to somehow evolve past meta-awareness, then? To use that knowledge to move past this stasis that it brought with it? Well if it is, Porky wants none of it, so the present world will stay cursed, haunted, frozen forever if he has his way. Of course, he can't have his way forever, because change is in the nature of capitalism. I know it sounds idealistic, but it's simple reason that states that the more Porky tries delay the inevitable, the worse the situation will get before mankind finally acts. Capital accumulation requires change, change requires time. The real problem is that I don't see how we can act on it. If agitation once was possible to try to quicken the demise of the old and the birth of the new, I'm afraid that mass media, as it grew in Porky's hands, has made this increasingly harder, and this change in the nature of superstructure that I think I see has made it flat-out impossible. My sad conclusion is that, with the future cancelled, we're stuck waiting for collapse so we can wrest the future back from Porky's trotters. Am I seeing too much in this connection between post-modernism, the end of history, a cancelled future and the start of the decay of capitalism? Because, if nothing else, they sure coincided in time and theme. Like I said, I don't know how much of it is a project of the bourgeoisie as a class and how much is simply history in motion, so I wonder if I'm seeing connections which aren't there. >Claudio Szynkier(he also goes by andros mikle on twitter) I'll look him up, thank you. Cultural analysis is more important than ever, if my observation about the superstructure is right. >>242633 That's a very good point, this lack of a national identity really is pervasive. But I disagree with your immediate dismissal. A national identity isn't necessarily bad, even if most people's idea of it is cheap patriotism. It's possible to foster internationalism as part of that identity. I suppose we can think of national idea as the liberal, spooky version of what we call national project. And, even if spooky, it can still be beneficial in mobilizing people, strengthening social bonds and such. I agree more with >>242638. If nothing else, a national identity can be seen as a stepping stone in national development, a part of the non-literal bourgeois revolution of social mores as it industrializes the country. In fact, it makes sense that we're still stuck with a hazy, stilted national identity, because our industrialization is the exact same way. I think I mentioned in an old post, maybe it's still in this thread, about how, before unification, the German stereotype was that of thieves and bums, and before the Meiji revolution, Japanese were considered irrascible and incapable of assimilating the notion of time management. (Now I was just reminded of that Empire of Dust documentary.) Such a massive shift brought on by capitalist development is what could have happened to us long ago already, if only we didn't have the goddamn fucking worst ruling classes ever. Besides, I think only the most radical anarchists advocate a complete abolishment of things such as nations, don't they? It's a bit utopian. Marxism itself always painted class war within the frame of nations, as each people must have a reckoning with its patrician oppressors before they can help others. Brotherhood of the peoples and all. It relates to the opposition to spreading socialism by wars of aggression.
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Dei de cara com um poster da guerra civil russa mostrando um camarada que me parece meio familiar...
>>245296 Ah sim mais uma doença endêmica na nossa casa, por que não
>>242689 How can the most half assed nation on Earth have accelerated faster on the neoliberal rail than every other nation?
>>245935 That's a question for the ages. Me, placing a lot of importance on the superstructure in this age, blame our porkies' overly ambitious blank coup. Lies are obviously commonplace in politics. You can keep adding more to the pile or removing them, and it won't make a difference unless you either burn everything down to the ground to start anew via a revolution or fucking overload everything. The hyperreality they tried to force was just plain too different from reality, in that it wasn't just a usual lie, but a perfect inversion of the truth, a real 180 turn. That PT was tainted by corruption is obvious, but the specific charges (however, ironically, vague) were just objectively false. It was absolutely bound to fail sooner rather than later. However, the scale and intensity of this particular lie seem to have been just plain too much. That an inversion of the truth wouldn't stand for long is understandable, but the sheer size of the task is, it seems, new, and it ended up breaking the laws of fucking physics or something. Still, there's one point where I disagree with most people. I don't think Dilma's coupeachment was the point of no return. Convicting innocents is a rather common 180 kind of lie, even on a national scale. Remember the leftist Paraguayan president who was the victim of a "constitutional coup"? It was a job so smooth on Porky's part that he was even allowed to return and keep being a politician, and it didn't break normalcy. Fuck, if anything, fucking the left over is normalcy. Case closed, another big bad commie leader out without serious ramifications. Paraguyan porkies kept their lie small, you see. After that, when the truth inevitably surfaced, it would just fall between the cracks. That kind of hazy it-might-be-it-might-not small talk which never is resolved as far as normiedom is concerned. This kind of play is quite common. America does it relentlessly, just look at how shamelessly their media aligned itself with the White House in order to say Assad gassed civilians, that China was murdering another 100 million in HK and shit. Truth will only ever reach normiedom way too late, if at all. The guilty will never pay. It's a kind of a natural statute of limitations. The key is to do your best to avoid to completely avoid the subject after your goal had been reached. The American government will ignore any questions about Black Panthers or Mumia Abu Jammal like the plague, among many other crimes. Assad will never be mentioned by American media again until the next imperialist venture in the region, when he'll unwillingly play the part of the moustache-twirling villain again, and the chemical weapons episode will not be brought up. That's the smart way to do soft social control. But we have the worst elites in the world, so... In our case, the lie just grew and grew in all ways possible. Okay, so they managed to smear PT into the ground and fool enough useful idiots into thinking that them worshipping an inflatable duck was a popular takedown of a disliked leader. It could have ended there. Case closed, another big bad commie leader out without serious ramifications. But they kept the smear campaign going until they got their big trophy, Lula. They could even have arrested him and finish it there -- case closed, one entire fucking commie party out without serious ramifications -- but the point of no return took place between Dilma and Lula. The X factor was Temer. Not thanks to his Homeric stab in the back, no. Traitors are a dime a dozen. It was the fact that he was objectively, clearly, undeniably, obviously guilty of every damn charge levied against him, and again, the truth was inverted 180 and he got off the hook. That's why it all went to hell. To declare an innocent guilty is perfectly viable, and to declare a guilty innocent is downright commonplace, especially here. Doing both things on basically the same charges with people on the exact same position and so ridiculously soon after the other was just too much. The anti-PT campaign was our porkies trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole, Dilma's coupeachment was the peg finally getting in, and Temer's tacit acquittal was trying to reach in through the wrecked hole and pick the peg back and breaking everything down. The overly ambitious hyperreality went out of control. They threw the most basic notions of justice, logic and everything else out the window. Black is white, up is down, Temer is clean and Dilma isn't. That's my hot take. The country of the unfinished and the half-assed managed to create a brand new level of fuck-up by not finishing things up like it should.
>>242638 worth noting that Brazilian idpolers and much of the so-called "liberal left" etc completely fall for the meme of anti-Vargas propaganda and contributes greatly for the lack of national identity. And it's also worth noting that a national identity has material basis: most successful and unsuccessful leftist revolutions throughout history were carried out with some level of nationalism.
>>246861 Yes but left nationalist revolutions were inherently anti-colonial struggles for independence. I fail to see the use of it now when most of the world is independent. >>246464 Brazil's neoliberalism is quite advanced in the sense of decay rather than technological or productive capacity. FIESP(Federação das Indústrias do Estado de São) doesn't care about industry anymore, they even wrote an article not too long ago in a mocking tone that they abandoned industry in favor of finance. Deindustrialization? Who gives a shit. Give me mo' money at long term expense of the nation. Added note here, you notice how Brazil was hit with a wave of """""""entrepeneurship"""""" cults that focus on investing in stocks and other crap instead of building industry?
>>247000 >most of the world is independent I'd argue that dependency in the Brazilian case never did actually cease to exist completely as most attempts were crushed/sabotaged midway and we'd just swap owners -- things get bizarre to the point that FHC (Fernando Henrique Cardoso) actually developed some theory disguised as leftist theory stating that class conciliation through commodity exporting was the gateway into development and that was probably one of the cornerstones of some of the Lula governments. At any rate, the struggle for independence in Brazil is still valid imo and thus our national identity needs to be (re)built. At worst, we'd need to adapt the discourse. >wave of enterpreneurship it gets worse. mainstream youtubers suddenly started to become financial coachs, we have reached a new low
>>245928 Sei lá, vai que os vírus de zika e corona matem um ao outro, nunca se sabe...
Whoever you are Brazillian effortposter (author of >>246464, >>242689, >>236997), I want to say you make this board special. I know dick about Brazil in truth, but your posts are fantastic at informing the politically conscious of the (absolute) state of Brazil. I must also say your writing style is book-worthy, if you can publish your thoughts in a collected volume or perhaps use them as scripts for YT video essays, you could really fill the gap of knowledge most have regarding your country. Thanks for your work so far, keep fighting comrade! (P.S. Please come to England!) >>236997 >>18835
>>247000 "Independent"
>>247000 >they even wrote an article not too long ago in a mocking tone that they abandoned industry in favor of finance Link?
Dados sigilosos: programa do governo federal expõe até agentes secretos >https://www.metropoles.com/brasil/servidor-brasil/dados-sigilosos-programa-do-governo-federal-expoe-ate-agentes-secretos Pessoal na UNB se cuida que o viligante da tua universidade é agente da ABIN. Bem, essa é uma forma de se livrar de parasitas, eu acho.
>>266219 >Proposto como alternativa à política do atual governo, de não conceder reajuste a servidores, o Clube de Descontos criado pelo ministério da Economia nasceu envolto em polêmicas. Desde o início, o projeto foi questionado junto às autoridades quanto à sua capacidade de resguardar informações sigilosas dos supostos beneficiados pelo programa: 1,2 milhão de pessoas. Ou seja, se vazou as informaçãoes de 1,2 milhões de pessoas, entre elas agentes da ABIN e da PF responsaveis por operações sigilosas, porque o governo não queria dar o reajuste salarial ao invés disso surgiu com um CLUBE DE DESCONTOS.
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Bozo's puppeteers were already starved for media coverage, and will become even more so now that Congress and STF are back from recess. He lives and dies by exposure, and simply being ignored by the country at large -- like he had been for most of 30 fucking years -- is the worst thing that can happen to him. Well, the second worst, the very worst would be for him to be throughly smeared and hopefully suicided like he deserves, but we know that's not gonna happen. In fact, my intuition tells me that the BR in China who posted a video appealing directly to the president was another of their trademark lumpen publicity stunts. Odds are that the evacuation was already being planned, and a supporter of his made that video just for media to mention his darling's name. Have you noticed how rarely the president appears in the news lately? I don't watch JN every day, but it's possible that he hasn't been namedropped since... the BR in China made the video. >>248289 you t-too... Seriously, I appreciate the words. I've been writing so damn much this year that I forget what I have already posted and what I haven't, I really ought to organize my shit. Hopefully I can make something good out of this dark age. >>259998 I can't play video on my computer right now, I'll get back to you later. >>266219 >>266270 Fora o fato que a "solução" proposta pelos lumpencratas é uma porra dum Sam's Club, reparem que é literalmente impossível dizer o quanto disso é maldade e o quanto é burrice.
>>247555 (checked) You're absolutely right, this dependence is most definitely deliberate, and I'd go as far as saying it extends to almost all undeveloped countries. It's international collusion of the bourgeois class, the same way each country has its own local collusion scheme. The name for this particularly odious sort of ruling class is comprador elites. Have you noticed how few non-communist countries developed since the first half of the 20th century? As far as I can tell, only 7: Iceland, Ireland, Finland, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong (not really a country but still). Save for the first 2, all had a serious communist threat, and barring Singapore, the remaining were right at the Red Menace's borders. The West had a very clear interest in aiding these countries' development. Past those 7, there isn't even the smell of development outside of China. The undeveloped countries of the late Cold War are still no closer to full development now. All of it, including us, are stuck in that eternal crawl, which is tantamount to standing still as far as capitalism goes. It requires a little bit of growth just to stay the same size, so to speak, and almost the entire world is in that stage now, which is perfectly fine for the rich nations but sucks shit for everyone else. Yet that's exactly how the non-developed world has spent the last several decades. To develop, a country must grow quicker than that "upkeep" growth, and, to the best of my knowledge, China is the only undeveloped country doing so as of now and, for that matter, the only one which has been doing so ever since South Korea reached first world status. None of the other ~160 are actually improving, and I mean improving in a real sense, as opposed to finally reaching the blissful utopia of the fucking Iron Age, to the loud cheer of bougies everywhere touting it as another proof of capitalist superiority, by finally erradicating smallpox or some other shit which should and could have been achieved a century ago. This can't possibly be ascribed purely to incapacity. Among the nations outside of the developed world and China totalling 5 billion souls, not a single one is capable of so much as starting to develop? This is bullshit. We in Brazil now know for a fact that our ruling classes not only aren't leading the country to development, but aren't even trying, and indeed, it's not an exaggeration to say they're opposed to it. This isn't simple dependence, because that would imply the dependent party can actually stop being dependent. This international capitalist pyramid is almost perfectly still, as if a finished monument, one which can be said to have started been built at the early 1800s or so. At some point, those on top became aware of this and have since then been doing their best to keep it that way. And they have done so with impressive success, really. The amount of changes they made to it are minimal. Since the 1800s, they allowed a few Eastern countries in, and that's pretty much it. This is one aspect of the first wave of leftist rebellion which isn't appreciated enough: socialism was the only chance of development any country outside of that core had. Had. China's lonely journey to development is a legacy of their participation in that, because if they were to try to start their path to development today and open up to the world to kickstart that endeavor, they wouldn't get a Nixon shaking hands with a Mao, they would get bombs and a puppet government, and that would be it. (Yeah, I know, no direct war because of nukes, this is an allegory in that they would have the entire rest of the world undermining it.) This international capitalist pyramid is one of those things we know to be true, yet don't really acknowledge, do we? The international capitalist pyramid is as real as the national one, but it seems to be ignored as an entity. This arrangement doesn't even have a name that I know of. I half-jokingly call it New World Order, because, despite the name, that agreement was only the quasi-formalization of what had been in place since the 1800s, with the aforementioned few changes. And it's absolutely vital to note that the ruling elites of all "non-rogue" countries have roles in it, including those of the undeveloped countries. They're absolutely crucial, being the local enforcers of an unjust scheme, a role they agree to pay in return for limited participation in the global halls of power, which, admittedly, is a tempting offer, because the alternative, to try to have your country join the leading ranks, will meet the opposition of all ranks. Again, notice how, outside of the 7 exceptions, the path to development necessarily was the one on the left, and, it should be said, the path on the left was opened at all solely because the world powers were too exhausted by WW1 to completely block it by killing the revolution in its crib. Does anyone have the slightest doubt that, had it happened during a time of peace in Europe, the Russian Revolution would have been smothered to death instantly? Fuck, Porky never abandoned that dream, see the infamous Operation Unthinkable, another brainchild of history's greatest expert on failing upwards, Churchill. (If I'm to be frank, I kind of wish Porky had thrown the dice, because communism was at its peak of popularity all accross Europe and the USSR was the only non-neutral country there with any war capacity left, and wouldn't have stopped until the Red Army reached the Bay of Biscay.) Nowadays, people mock you if you say the rich nations work against us and our shots at development, as if they had nothing to win from that. This is a direct reflection on an international level of the tired old propaganda about rich people wanting everyone else to be rich, and both of them place the blame for poverty squarely on the victim's shoulder. The fallacy there is that this is not an either-or scenario; the state of poverty can persist both by lack of capacity and by external action, and that's exactly the case when it comes to national development. Among the nations of 5 billion souls, there are certainly plenty which couldn't start developing anytime soon even if they had the NWO's greenlight for any number of reasons. I won't venture into hypotheticals to estimate the proportion of those unfortunate countries, but it's undeniable that there are some which have the material factors necessary, and it's just as undeniable that every single one of them, regardless of capacity, does not have the permission to do so. Brazil possibly has been the world's prime candidate for development for well past a century now. It may very well be that we lack the non-material capacity for it, and our elites' performance on everything else does hint at them being too inept to put the country on the path of development. But capacity isn't even a factor, because they lack the will and the international consent for it. To be perfectly frank, I think the consent of international porkies is something which can be arranged. They certainly don't want another power player in the global arena, but if there's something in it for them, they could accept a deal -- cue the quote about them selling us rope. What simply cannot be solved with reason, nor with anything but violence, is the Brazilian porkies' opposition to it, and I present the past 5 years as ironclad evidence that any hope for peaceful development is vain. The only way our ruling classes could make this more clear would be by buying out the entire ad interval of the biggest primetime soap opera to state so in language even a retard could understand, then use the next five minutes to show the most porcine-looking bastards ever ostentating their obscene wealth while laughing at the camera. If there is one single concept I could drill into the head of every Brazilian, it is this: there may be a million reasons for our chronic undevelopment, but the most important one of them all is as simple as it is undeniable: our elites don't want the country to improve, and our prosperity necessitates their end.
>>244144 >Moro é um guarda vermelho imortal que se infiltrou como criptocomunista no sistema judicial brasileiro e nos ajuda na aceleração.
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Non-Brazilian here, found this Brazilian YTber: 'Jones Manoel' I can't speak Portuguese but he seems BASED, can someone confirm if this is true or not? Random video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJc83LB0TQM
>>269110 he is STALIN GANG
>>269110 >>269115 Not quite Stalinist. He defends him quite avidly but he's not the sort who actually wants to enact anything similar. He's smart enough to know that, for all of Stalin's hits and misses, he left a positive legacy and was a product of his time. The point of his, and that of other smart socialists defense of Stalin is to not let reactionaries use him to eternally demand that we get on our knees and apologize, because they will absolutely never judge anything socialist fairly. If we don't mount a defense of the good aspects of Stalin's legacy, absolutely no one else will. Another Twitter commie summed it up with something like this: "Criticism against existing socialism? I have plenty. But I save it for comrades. When liberals show up to whine, Stalin's only mistake was not killing enough people". I agree with the sentiment, tho I think these people lack tact on this subject and do come across as full-blown tankies.
>>269110 Larping faggot. Why do retards keep watching youtube to get informed on politics? >>269184 He is a straight up tankie, there's no need to deny it.
>>269192 Because YT has a de-facto monopoly on 'free', accessible video streaming and most-all thinkers have talks, audiobooks and video-essays made for or archived on there.
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>>269110 He's cool enough. Although being the anarchist I am, I have major disagreements with him. >>269115 Nope, although he's undeniably a leninist. >>269192 "Larping faggot. Why do retards keep listening to people making speeches on the Red Square to get informed on politics?" That's how dumb you sound. Stop larping and go actually contribute to communist propaganda in some way.
Existem leituras recomendadas especificamente sobre a situação do Brasil e outros países da América Latina? Percebi que deveria parar de assistir a vídeos do youtube para obter minha educação política. Todo youtuber político brasileiro está doente mental.
>>269258 How would anarchist Brazil look like? Personally the only socialism that i can conceive is a people's democracy that allows for other ideologies to express themselves at the municipal level with a State planned economy with local council/syndicate federation management, it would resemble Tito's yugoslavia but not cucked.
>>269110 O que vc acha de cara? >>269564
https://youtu.be/wFuuO0uVacI Our girl with another good take
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>>269564 "Neoliberalismo, Neodesenvolvimentismo, Socialismo" do argentino Claudio Katz refaz a historia politica-economica dos ultimos 20 anos da america latina, especificamente discutindo Bolivia, Venezuela, Cuba, Brasil, Argentina e Mexico. "As lutas populares na America Latina e os governos progressistas" de Paula Klatchko e katu Arkonada é uma leitura marxista dos movimentos populares nos governos da chamada onda rosa. Resgata boa parte da historia desses movimentos dos ultimos vinte anos e as suas relações com os governos além de oferecer um capitulo introdutório sobre o que seria socialismo e como o socialismo do sec xxi se encaixa nisso. O Claudio Katz também o faz, mas aqui é um pouco mais claro e objetivo. "Tensões Criativas da Revolução" do Alvaro Garcia Linera faz uma discussão sobre o processo boliviano pré golpe, os seus avanços e tensões intrínsecas. Sujeito era vice presidente da bolivia e ex-guerrilheiro. Marta Harnecker tem varios livros sobre a esquerda e a situação latina americana, em particular li "Um Mundo a Construir" e gostei bastante. Pelo pouco que li, tanto trechos quanto comentarios sobre, "Os Desafios da Esquerda Latino-Americana" também é bem bom sobre a constituição e os limites da esquerda no continente. Dela tem também "Ideias para se lutar" que é um apanhado de textos que ela escreveu para jornais/revistas/volume curto sobre a experiencia venezuelana. Sobre o Brasil em si e o momento atual, não consigo não recomendar os livros do Jessé de Souza, a "Tolice da Inteligencia Brasileira", "Elite do Atraso" e "Subcidadania" são excelentes leituras sobre o nosso contexto social. O sujeito não é marxista propriamente, mas se insere na chamada teoria critica pegando bastante dos alemães e do Bourdieu. Outro que posso recomendar é "O Colapso da Democracia no Brasil" que lida diretamente sobre a politica da chamada nova republica até o golpe de 2016. Fala bem de como a situação chegou no que chegou, a luta e as escolhas politicas do PT sem entrar num moralismo barato e contextualizando o momento. Novamente, não é propriamente marxista, mas é bem escrito e simples de ler. "A Nova Direita" de Flávio Henrique Calheiros Casimiro é um excelente trabalho sobre as origens e organizações do novo liberalismo brasileiro. Traça uma arqueologia sobre quem financiou quem, quem é quem, o que cada grupo acredita e as suas disidencias. Se eu não me engano era a tese de doutorado do sujeito, logo é tedioso de ler, mas é bem bom no geral. "A reforma empresarial da educação" de Luiz Carlos de Freitas, professor aposentado da Unicamp, vai ser bom discutir os interesses burgueses neoliberais sobre a educação, o que que significa esse mercado e as ações que estão sendo promovidas. Acho pertinente em especial com a revelação do olavista homeschooler que vai gerir as comprar de livros didaticos, apesar do livro não tratar do grupo dele, vai ajudar a contextualizar o que ele esta tentando e como é que funciona esse mercado. Novamente, uma leitura curta e simples. A maior parte desses livros sairam por aqui na expressão popular, geralmente não são caros, mas podem ser chatos de se encontrar irl por ser literalmente uma editora fundada e comandada por gente do mst. Imagino que com essa pequena lista da para se ter uma boa noção sobre a historia recente do nosso pais, as suas lutas e o que se passou e se passa nos nosso vizinhos. >>269258 Fuck off faggot. A larping e-celeb is no the same thing as Lenin reborn. Go choke on a sea of dicks.
https://youtu.be/3SLASoOgPYw READ! NIGGA! READ!
>>269836 How is that guy larping exactly? What the fuck is wrong with anything that he is doing? He has reached 53 thousand people and is well informed, what is he doing wrong you fucking autist?
>>269564 Até os camaradas como Jones, Sabrina, Saia da Matrix, Socialista Morena etc.? Mas realmente, o Youtube brasileiro está uma lástima até pros padrões daquele site. Mas a situação não é tão desesperadora assim, porque o culto olavista também está fazendo entrismo no Youtube. Tudo quando é pela-saco do charlatão está fazendo vídeos, justamente pra fazer volume e criar uma maioria imaginária, exatamente como fazem nas redes sociais com bots. Se inteligência artificial já conseguisse fazer vídeo fotorrealista, pode apostar que o YT BR estaria infinitamente pior. Por enquanto, eles ainda precisam de humanos (sic) pra fazer vídeo chumbrega, e usam os bots pra inflar os números. Não conheço a "botagem" do YT tão bem quanto as das redes sociais, mas se for tão fajuta quanto, a maioria dos perfis e quase todos os comentários e votos são falsos. É a ficção atacando a realidade. Sobre o que está acontecendo no Brasil, sinceramente, não conheço ninguém tão a par da teoria política da nova era quanto este fio. Luís Nassif é o que chega mais perto de perceber o âmbito superestrutural desta fuzarca e a completa anormalidade da situação, e entende muito mais que nós da prática. Tem um liberalóide meio cirandeiro no Twitter que me surpreendeu ao deduzir o plano da velha escória pra rehabilitar (o mínimo possível) Lula, jogar Bolsonaro pra escanteio e tal, ainda que, creio, não com a mesma precisão que nós temos. Mas o nome dele me foge a mente. Mesmo entre os camaradas, creio que há uma falta de percepção sobre o lado imaterial disto tudo. Suas análises estão certas, mas não se pode analisar o que não é percebido, entende? De qualquer modo, vai nos perfis de Twitter dos nomes que citei no começo, e outros como @carapanarana, @assimdisseojoao e tal e você vai encontrando eles. Fora da política ou da esquerda esquerda mesmo, uns nomes pipocam no fio de vez em quando, como em >>242594. The Intercept é leitura obrigatória, apesar de ser liberal de esquerda, e seus jornalistas merecem ser seguidos no Twitter. Medo e Delírio em Brasília é o melhor apanhado de notícias tocantes ao circo do Bozo. @nadanovonofront, @leogcosta
GOD DAMN IT visiting Twitter again is giving me flashbacks, it's just way too much shit. Things have gotten to the point that a flat-out ban of social networking sites is unquestionably. By the by, the bot horde is now accusing Hollywood and all its people and organizations of being communists because of Parasite and the fact that Democracia em Vertigem is mentioned at all. They're also celebrating the fact that this communist apologia didn't win. The contradiction is irrelevant, not the least of which because almost everyone spouting this nonsense is fake, and that's not an exaggeration.
1/2 This post is all disjointed but I had to write it out to get rid of the headache that my visit to Twitter induced, so forgive me. Okay then, so a high-ranking militiaman, from the same bunch connected to Bolsonaro, was murdered today. The police (this takes place in Bahia, with a completely separate police force from Rio) claim they shot him because he resisted arrest with gunfire. This took place in his hideout, a country home belonging to a PSL city-level councilman. He had been at large in Bahia, it seems, since Rio investigators were on to him last year, and he was set to be arrested there February st but someone tipped him off. This happens right as 03 is visiting Bahia. Also, the militiaman was received official honors from 01 when he was Rio state senator, not once but twice. Both his wife and his mother were "ghost workers" in the family's government offices, getting paid for literally nothing and giving part of it as kickback, via Queiroz. Yes, that Queiroz. He was bad enough to have been expelled from the Rio police force, which is no small feat. The world's foremost defense attorney for organized crime, Moro, had removed him from the country's most wanted list. The specific cause for this guy's arrest warrant didn't come from the investigations, but because the police had been tipped off that he was planning to murder the prosecutor in charge of Marielle's case. This has "tying up loose ends" written all over it. Yet I'm not so sure about it, because the lumpencracy surrounding the Bolsonaro family are prototypical chickenshit reactionaries, as Queiroz's continued existence demonstrates. I severely overrated them when I thought the latter would end up dead soon after the scandal in December 2018. This is the millionth time I'll say that this is beyond ridiculous. To say that they provide a reason for impeachment a day is already an euphemism. Now about the old scum and their apparent plan to undo the countrywide confusion spell. It stands to reason that they need to do this before sending the president packing, for the simple reason that they, and not Bozo nor the new scum are the ones who cast the spell, and the Doom Legion's shortbus that is the current government were at the right place and the right time. I think the "hard cap" for Bozo's dismissal is this next November, as that's when a STF justice will forcibly retire due to old age, freeing up the first spot for a Bozo appointee. And no one outside of the new scum, nor an ever-increasing number of people inside it, want that. God knows that there's no shortage of reasons, the odds of any significant number of people taking to the stareets to defend Bozo tend towards zero by now, and half the armed forces officers, good reactionaries that they are, have done virtually nothing against the national leader who humiliated them the most by an infinite margin (the only possible exception being the generals who supposedly contacted Toffoli asking if they needed to make a move against Bolsonaro). The confusion spell is the only thing keeping the circus standing, or at least the only reason I can see. But there's a factor here which the old scum probably doesn't even know exists, and if they do, they don't give a shit because, well, they never did give a shit about rule of law, civil society and due process? Every second which Bolsonaro remains in power is another blow against the rules of... honestly, I don't quite have the words. The legislative rules, the rules of common sense, the unspoken social rules, every god damn thing. There's no conceivable reason why that homunculus should be where he is, ergo his permanence there lowers this ineffable set of rules governing society. I admit, this sounds like idealist claptrap, but surely you see that the fact that they have allowed the lowest, scummiest criminals possible to sit on the throne simply is bound to have repercussions beyond his permanence there, don't you? Not just in clerical matters i.e. undoing the shit his ministers are now doing, but in that ineffable way of some collective entity, some gestalt composing country, people, government, nation and many other things is being debased, and fixing that damage is not easy or possibly even possible.
2/2 >>270095 I don't recall if I said this before, but here's a hot take: I think the old scum -- not just the politicians, but the oppositionist media, opinion-makers and what-have-you -- deliberately stay quiet about this series of absurdities, because to even broach the subject would require impeachment. There's no two ways about it, anyone else wouldn't even have been allowed to take oath after the 2018 December scandal, to say nothing of the preceding 30 fucking years. And afterwards, there were more such events. The Paraguay scheme? That would be a guaranteed impeachment, yet no one here, not even the oppositionist media nor the actual opposition in Congress, brought it up. When Bozo's fucking neighbor was arrested for murdering Marielle? Guaranteed impeachment. The presidential entourage caught with thirty-fucking-nine kilos of cocaine on board? Guaranteed impeachment. And the old scum simply have to ignore all of it because he can't fall just yet. Really, I know it's a conspiracy theory, but can you present any other explanation for the complete cover-up of the Paraguay scandal from the public eye? Although the confusion spell is holding them back, they could (and should) have impeached him on a million other reasons completely unrelated to Lula or the anti-PT campaign, thus not exposing their own participation in the latter. But this runs on another problem, which is the cunt of a vice-president, meaning the circus would keep on going without Bozo, and God knows what they would do then. Impeaching one right after the other isn't an option because it would completely give the game away and force them to acknowledge the spell they cast. They would need to rewrite the laws to shove the veep away, and indeed wrote a bill doing exactly that, which, however, gathered dust for most of 2019, was finally assigned to the appropriate House committee and has been gathering dust ever since then, presumably in a different desk drawer. I posted before that, as far as my brief research goes, the committee should have evaluated the bill long ago, so this is a direct breach of the internal rules. But Maia, chairman of the House and de facto Prime Minister, doesn't seem to be in a hurry to fix that. So I'm guessing the possibility of ending this new age by way of impeachment and before undoing the spell has been discarded, and they're waiting for Car Wash to fall so that they can throw everything and the kitchen sink at the circus. So to put it clearly: Bolsonaro pretty much can do anything he wants and won't have to worry about an impeachment which is definitely coming. I think his puppeteers are definitely aware of this, that they're effectively immune to law itself for the moment, and are dliberately debasing everything they can. I mean, they sure as fuck have been doing it from the start on Olavo's orders in order to try to force an institutional break and get their shot at some sort of coup, but even tho that fizzled, they haven't stopped, because of fucking course rightwingers will shit everything up just for the sake of it. Which gets me to the problem that the old scum either doesn't see or doesn't care about, this debasement not simply of politics, but of a million institutions, practices and unwritten laws. Thanks to them, people aren't batting an eye at the fact that a ridiculously compromised bastard brought the worst elements of society, the most coward and sleazy criminals, the lumpens of soul and mind, into the presidential power -- perhaps literally so, because, I remind you, they have classified the list of visitors. This can't possibly not affect the next governments. Yesterday, Bozo normalized pork barrell by simply doing it openly. Tomorrow some psychopath like Witzel says police are automatically absolved of casualties in the line of duty without even any legal backing. Who'll stop him? If the media doesn't stridently denounce him, people won't do anything, and other parts of government supposed to curb these excesses can be dealt with. This was unthinkable 10 years ago, today it might already fly, and God knows how low the standards will be tomorrow. We're expecting less and less in matters we should demand more and more, and letting the literally least competent and least deserving people handle them. This isn't just a political crisis, this is some sort of horrible new thing, an axiological crisis. People can't tell right from wrong anymore. A president was impeached on fictional grounds, her successor got the job despite being actually guilty of those things, and now we have a literal retard in charge. Is this not a slippery slope? Tho the particular morbid symptom that is the retarded right is already waning, anything is possible these days, as the old is dead and the new is not even conceived, let alone be able to be born. That slope can keep going and going, and the old scum doesn't appreciate that fact, because they're taking their sweet time while we keep sliding downwards. Maybe this wouldn't be so alarming to me if this were an old kind of crisis. You know, a crisis of something I can actually name and define. But the consequences of this axiological crisis are unpredictable. Normality is out the window.
>>270095 >>270097 Case in point. They may be toothless now, but the longer this keeps going, the more unpredictable they get, are the old scum is not immune.
>>270101 I didn't mean the idiots who support Bolsonaro will get more unpredictable, if anything they're too predictable, I meant the situation in general gets more unpredictable. Would you believe anyone who told you, 10 years ago, that he would be president? Now extrapolate this to the next 10 years.
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>>276192 Você já viu prova de concurso público de uns 15 ou mais anos atrás ? Pra entrar no Itamaraty, por exemplo, que, hoje, é mais difícil que ser eleito presidente, as perguntas eram do nível "o que é o Mercosul?". Agora percebo que isso foi um fator decisivo pra tanto fascistóide ter conseguido cargo público. Esse arrocho, por si próprio, criou tendência do serviço público e melhorar consideravelmente nas próximas décadas, independente de cortes de gastos. E, realmente, acho que está muito melhor hoje que há 10 anos atrás. A lástima é que justamente a última geração de servidores de pior nível tomou conta do país antes de se aposentar.
>>276632 >Esse arrocho, por si próprio, criou tendência do serviço público e melhorar consideravelmente nas próximas décadas, Discordo. Como está, você elitiza o funcionalismo público, porque so quem tem grana pra pagar aqueles cursos preparatórios que consegue passar.
>>276902 Uma observação pertinente. Realmente, filtra os pobres, mas também filtra os idiotas.
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So then, how about them Parasite Academy awards, eh? It really brings to mind the fact that Bacurau was snubbed for the Brazilian entry for the awards in favor of The Edge of Democracy (international name of Democracia em Vertigem). Boy did that work out well. On hindsight, Bacurau might have won an award, given the surprise victory of a movie which puts class struggle on the limelight, but left-liberals found it too icky, it seems. Well, the consolation prize is that the truth about the coupeachment is finally starting to come to the fore. Apropos of that, Parasite's director is a Glauber Rocha fanboy (https://www.uai.com.br/app/noticia/cinema/2020/02/12/noticias-cinema,255770/diretor-de-parasita-e-fa-de-glauber-rocha-e-pensa-em-conhecer-o-carn.shtml). And he's in good company, alongside Scorsese (https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/ilustrada/ult90u63439.shtml) and Almodóvar. I had no idea Parasite existed until the ceremony, and I'm yet to see it. Has someone here seen both it and Bacurau and can offer a comparison? Or any comments, really. Also, a reminder that Marighella hasn't premiered in Brazil yet thanks to indirect but obvious censorship by Ancine. One of the million abuses which aren't actually crimes and which were only prevented by the "no one would dare do that" factor, which the circus ignored, and will never face repercussions.
>>259998 Is no one gonna react to the kino i posted? :(
>>278924 >>259998 Lembro de um anão recomendando eles num fio do brchan, anos atras. Fazia tempo que eu não ouvia eles, bom saber que continuam tão bons quanto. Apesar de parecer que o som não mudou tanto assim. Also, lindo de bonito que ainda da pra baixar de graça os albuns deles. Essa musica em particular parece ser mais uma continuação tematica do que eles ja exploravam antes, a critica ao neoliberalismo/oligarquia e tudo mais.
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>>278275 I have watched Bacurau in October and Parasite in November. The first because everybody on brazilian twitter were commenting about it, the second because I saw Will Menaker from Chapo Trap House mentioning it. I enjoyed both very much. I think that Bacurau captures a sentiment specific to brazilians, it references a lot to our relation to the global north and regionalist kerfuffle, things that you would miss if you aren't absorved in that culture already — and that's a lot of the draw of the movie. Parasite in the other way, is a straight-foward movie with a more universal appeal — it fells a lot like a greek mythos or a Aesop tale. It also references the zeitgeist of it's country, but it isn't really the appeal of the movie, in my opinion.
>>279410 >it references a lot to our relation to the global north and regionalist kerfuffle, things that you would miss if you aren't absorved in that culture already Speaking of regionalist kerfuffle, what's the likelyhood of Brazil breaking up into smaller states or regions?
>>278275 >>278275 >brings to mind the fact that Bacurau was snubbed for the Brazilian entry for the awards in favor of The Edge of Democracy Nope. Brasil sent The Invisible Life of Euridice Gusmao to try an Oscar nomination, instead of Bacurau, in the category of best foreign film. Edge of Democracy was sent by Netflix, not Brasil, in the category of best documentary and not in best foreign film. He managed to be among the final nominees because Netflix has a lot of money and invests a lot in the awards. (It should be noted that the documentary that won the Oscar is also distributed by Netflix and was produced by the Obamas). Even if Bacurau was nominated by Brazil, he would not win. Because to win a Oscar it's necessary to invest in the marketing of the film, making a campaign to win the competition. Part of Parasite's victory was their campaign. They spent months in hollywood doing everything to spread the film and increase their chances of victory. This kind of thing happens at the Oscars because it's the most popularly known award. Winning an Oscar is a guarantee of boosting your film, just see the example of Parasita, the number of cinemas showing the film more than doubled after the award. I mean, look how now you know about it. The thing is that Parasite made this campaign with a lot of money, which they have because they are a film production company that is part of a national creative industry very well supported by their government. The success of K-Pop is also linked to this. Now stop and think. With this Bozo government, do you think they would invest a lot of money so that the directors, the cast and the production of Bacurau would stay in hollywood for months promoting the film within the Oscar academy?
https://twitter.com/Estadao/status/1228657711547502594 lmfao, Acho fascinante como os chamados patriotas têm um ódio febril por seu próprio país. Você pode ver que eles têm uma adrenalina vendo os brasileiros sofrerem.
>>279428 Small, besides the south (those retards that no one would miss) nobody really gives enough of a shit about secessionism believing it to be nonsense. There was a time that people actually believed São Paulo, the industrial capital, could secede and become it's own powerful nation but that quickly subsided due to people actually thinking about the logistics for 2 seconds and then gave up on the idea.
Quais são as suas opiniões sobre Paulo Ghiraldelli?
>>281382 Um porre.
Hell, I can't believe I forgot about this when writing about how the old scum would get rid of the circus here >>270097. They don't need to pass that bill before making the move, they don't need to change anything. I just now remembered that the electoral court can just plain invalidate candidacies or tickets (that's what I think is the term for "cassar chapas") at any time, even after election and after being sworn in. And that court is subject to STF. This takes care of the Mourão issue, so yeah, they can kick Bozo out any time they want. Also notice again how disproportionately powerful our judiciary branch is. And apropos of that: https://www.em.com.br/app/noticia/politica/2019/12/16/interna_politica,1108601/a-lava-jato-destruiu-empresas-afirma-dias-toffoli-presidente-stf.shtml Toffoli changing his tune completely, to join the anti-Car Wash chorus. This is a big sign it's on the way down, as absolutely no one farther to the right than PT would ever entertain the notion that CW did have a significant impact in the economy. A few liberals have seen the light and have denounced CW, but still, none have echoed the notion of the economic impact. For the head justice of the supreme court to do so is proof positive CW is on its way to infamy. Even tho its reputation is already tarnished, it's not "officially" a Bad Thing, yet, but it will soon be. And what little political capital the circus still have comes from Moro alone, so Bozo will go down at the same time. So I'm calling it right now: Bolsonaro will be ousted before november by having his and Mourão's ticket invalidated, soon after Car Wash falls from grace once and for all. Screencap this post.
>>283572 Addendum: if, when this starts, the opposition finally breaks out the big guns, the hypothesis that they actually had to make a concerted effort not to impeach him will be proven true.
>>283572 >>283963 And I forgot another vital detail again. Since this will happen within the first half of the presidential term, it will trigger a new presidential election 90 days afterwards. And, this time, Lula probably can run, but don't quote me on that. Are your bodies ready for 3 months of the most hellish electoral fever ever?
Moro will probably be the new president. That or the Ciro/Maia alliance.
Ô beleza, agora o palhaço está fazendo piadas de cunho sexual com jornalista. Agora esse governo vai pra frente!
>>284872 Moro is done-o. The leaks put an expiration date on his fame as national hero, and he doesn't have the chops to recover. If those hadn't happened, yeah I'd bet anything he'd be the next president, but as it is, it's all downhill for him now. His pathetic submission to Bozo also ended his tough-on-crime reputation, to say nothing of the way he helped the family. If I were him, I'd try to work out a deal with the old scum and abandon and decry Bozo, to try to salvage my career with a "well-intentioned man led astray" narrative. But now that you mention it, Ciro/Maia does look like an shoo-in. Lula would be a strong candidate, but in the end, the collected fame of Ciro and Maia would win over Lula's still-not-clean reputation. If Lula were to back them up, it would be something of a government of national union we discussed before, which would help a lot in getting us out of omninormalization hell. Ciro is, by far, the smartest amongst the main contenders -- from Bozo to Ciro, the presidential IQ would literally double -- and the best shot we have at peaceful development (yeah, yeah, I know). He can still claim opposition cred without PT's dirty baggage, and he doesn't elicit the same irrational, guttural hatred from porkies that Lula does. Also, the latter, if elected, would still have to deal with all the shit which started this in the first place. I was going to say that having Maia as veep would be good as it would guarantee governability, but then I remembered Temer and, well... On the other hand, Maia seems to me to be the least nefarious person in such a high position we ever had. Given his background and the pains he goes through by having to deal with the circus, I'd say it's extremely unlikely he would stab the president's back.
>>283572 >So I'm calling it right now: Bolsonaro will be ousted before november by having his and Mourão's ticket invalidated, soon after Car Wash falls from grace once and for all. Screencap this post. I bet that, not only a impeachment is not gonna happen, but bozo is gonna be re-elected in 2022. >>284872 I doubt it, i dont see moro running for president, he is too coward for that, he can barely speak.
Speaking of rodent called Moro https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2020/02/lula-nega-acusacoes-a-juiz-do-df-e-diz-que-palocci-mentiu-ao-depor-contra-ele.shtml >A pedido de Moro, Lula é investigado na PF com base na Lei de Segurança Nacional
>>286235 >but bozo is gonna be re-elected in 2022. That's not how consumerist fads work, anon. They go big once, and never again. Livestrong wristbands, Timberland boots, Mexican popsicles, Bolsonaro. >>286356 Pathetic. He really doesn't have the chops. And that backstabbing Palocci, eh? He has been in with Globo ever since, back when he was a minister, he lent them a big sum of public funds to help save them from bankruptcy. Last year, the digital militia was spreading something about Palocci revealing that PT stole something like half a trillion HUEbux. I have no idea if this insane accusation came from him or from the geniuses behind the bots, but it completely ruined Palocci's value as rent-a-accusation.
Huh, I didn't know Zuckbook throttled the reach of fake news debunked by associated fact-checking groups. https://politica.estadao.com.br/blogs/estadao-verifica/video-que-mostra-grupo-pro-bolsonaro-e-retirado-de-contexto-para-mostrar-falsa-manifestacao-anti-lula/ Anyway, it's a good demonstration that the "marketplace of ideas" which, so goes liberal dogma, automagically makes wrong information wilt, simply doesn't even apply anymore thanks to the internet.
O irmão do Ciro foi baleado o que acham? https://youtu.be/QoLt76XlfFw
>>286569 Eu acho que o estado brasileiro esta se esfacelando e que as policias militares estaduais foram capturadas pelo nacional-taxismo são alguns dos principais agentes estatais desse processo. A proposito: é bom lembrar que o Ceara governado pelo PT em conjunto com os Ferreira Gomes e que tem enfretado uma crise com as suas forças policiais desde o ano passado, logo a possibilidade disso ser uma manobra de desestabilização do governo estadual não é exatamente baixa. Os PM's já haviam conseguindo o aumento que queriam, ou proximo a isso, faltava só legislativo estadual votar sim.
>>286569 Ai meu jisuis. Tinha algum Bolsonaro visitando a cidade bem naquele dia?
>>286628 Pois é, é a deslegitimização das instituições. Olha, depois da bizarria na Bolívia, não duvido que os meganhas tenham seu dia de brincar de salvadores da pátria. No MS, ela já estava aprontando, mas alinhada ao governador tucano. A polícia fluminense dispensa comentários. Eu estava certo que o Whitney Houston ia aloprar, mas depois de rachar com o clã, as chances baixaram. O Ceará já teve aqueles dois surtos de violência ano passado, e agora isso. Certeza absoluta que tem aliado de Bolsonaro e/ou algum lavajatista mexendo os pauzinhos em Fortaleza. Inclusive, a família presidencial não teria, supostamente, influenciado o golpe boliviano? Olha, o Witzel agremia milícias e a PM propriamente dita, além de ser aliado do Bretas e da LJ, e a polícia cearense está infiltrada. Será que os lavajatistas, perceendo que estão fadados a cair, pestão preparando alguma surpresa? Era só o que faltava. As FFAA param de fazer merda por um segundo, e a polícia já vem no vácuo.
>>286688 >>286628 Atropela um bando de PM com uma escavadeira é foda pra caralho, me lembra daquele americano que transformou o próprio trator em um tanque acabou com um bairro. Also, os PMs tavam protestando pra ganha mais após terem ganhado mais?
>>286380 His popularity still growing and he doesn't even need it, he still gonna win with the 12% of "hard core" of bozominions, remember that he dont need to have a majority, he just need to have more votes than the others candidates, plus if we dont win in the first round he can always activate the "muh PT" hidden card, flipping the big media to his favor and gathering support from the people that dont like him but dislike PT even more. >That's not how consumerist fads work, anon. They go big once, and never again. This only start to happen after 2022, because he cannot blame everything on PT anymore, well he probably gonna do anyways, but is not gonna be effective. About the impeachment, it is not gonna happen because bozo have a well organized bunch of lunatics that are very effective in harass authorities, not only because they are violent, but because of the relations of the bozo family and militias and the support that he have in the armed forces and police, including the people that work protecting this authorities, and he can push a never ending austerity program, as he is already doing it. >>286569 Eu não consigo disfarçar a sensação de que esse tipo de coisa só acontece nos governos de esquerda, olhe só 2013 e a greve dos caminhoneiros, essa sensação fica bem pior quando eu vejo toda essa passividade em relação a piora das condições de vida e das medidas de austeridade do governo bozo.
>>286772 >Also, os PMs tavam protestando pra ganha mais após terem ganhado mais? Sim, apesar de que ainda não foi concedido, faltava o legislativo local aceitar. Eles tinham conseguido dois aumentos consecutivos, primeiro não aceitaram e depois boa parte aceitou, aí esse grupo se amontinou e tacou o terror em Sobral. Ao que parece é um grupo ligado ao candidato a prefeito bolsonarista de Fortaleza. >>288988 PDF relatado. O site ligado ao exercito defesa net fala bastante do conceito guerras hibridas, assim como grupos ligados ao PT e ao MST, a diferença que um o faz na defesa extremada dos EUA e do nacional-taxismo e os petistas mais em sintonia com as discussões internacionais sobre o conceito. Tu te lembras do artigo do Haddad na Piaui? Lá ele meio que toca no assunto quando diz que os turcos e russos ligaram avisando o governo brasileiro sobre a movimentação das xornadas de xunho serem artificiais, pelo menos as das redes sociais.
>>288988 >His popularity still growing That's definitely not the feeling I get. Have you noticed how all the alt-right memery from the past few years is starting to become official internet cringe material? The trissomic right's chimp out is already dying down. Which, in hindsight, makes sense, as nothing lasts for long in times of information overload. As for militias, Bozo might not have their backing anymore, now that he -- or his sons, more likely -- managed to turn Witzel into yet another enemy. The armed forces are, I think, too split to be able to start shit, especially if Toffoli's tale of a group of generals asking if Bolsonaro had to be dealt with is true. But the police, now that's starting to worry me. >>288988 >Eu não consigo disfarçar a sensação de que esse tipo de coisa só acontece nos governos de esquerda Sem dúvida. Reaça só existe pra foder a vida dos outros, e sempre tem algum maldito nas hierarquias de todo lugar. A direita sempre foi o lado subversivo. Esse é um problema que a esquerda não vai solucionar enquanto não sair do paz-e-amor e não aplicar força, no sentido bruto da palavra, contra esses elementos. Não uma demonstração pública, pelo contrário, uma, digamos, remoção cirúrgica dessas peças-chave. Justamente por ser incapaz de ser de fato um fenômeno popular, a direita depende desses operadores infiltrados. Pra ser bem franco: se meia dúzia de reaças patológicos tivessem comido grama ano passado, o Ceará não estaria nessa cilada. >>289111 >Ao que parece é um grupo ligado ao candidato a prefeito bolsonarista de Fortaleza. Eis um dessa meia dúzia. Tem muita filhadaputagem em político, mas esse aí já partiu pra violência. Precisa urgentemente receber dose aguda de chumbo. >Lá ele meio que toca no assunto quando diz que os turcos e russos ligaram avisando o governo brasileiro sobre a movimentação das xornadas de xunho serem artificiais, pelo menos as das redes sociais. Porra, será que a Skynet já tinha atingido sapiência faz tanto tempo? >>286772 Só, era o Killdozer, meme raiz mesmo. Aliás, uma boa demonstração de armamento improvisado a ser utilizado nas vindouras guerras urbanas.
>>289945 https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/cresce-aprovacao-ao-governo-de-jair-bolsonaro-aponta-pesquisa-fsb-veja/ >That's definitely not the feeling I get. Tbh the feeling that im getting is that the people are starting to be "apolitical" again, people just stop talking about politics. >>289945 >>289111 O problema aqui é se for isso mesmo então todos os grandes movimentos de massa dos últimos vinte anos (talvez até mais) foram artificiais e criados pela direita, que ela é a única que conseguiu criar movimentos dessa magnitude, o que não me deixa nada otimista, mas explicaria a letargia generalizada que estamos vendo.
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>>289971 Ah yes a definetly white man, beatiful
>>289968 >https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/cresce-aprovacao-ao-governo-de-jair-bolsonaro-aponta-pesquisa-fsb-veja/ Ave Maria. É nisso que dá a Globo continuar dando espaço pra esse atraso de vida. Literalmente não há porque mencionar que ele sequer existe, mas mesmo assim, a Globo insiste em terminar toda maldita notícia do JN com "Eis o que o presidente Jair Bolsonaro disse a respeito". Eles ainda não se tocaram que a política, esvaziada por eles e outros, agora resume-se a culto a celebridades: são famosos por serem famosos, e quem mais aparece é mais popular. Eu fiz piada em 2018 sobre os vencedores de eleições agora serem quem quer que tenhams eus nomes repetidos mais vezes. Não gostaria de ter sido literalmente correto. Mas também, se a Globo e o resto da mídia que não está pendurada no saco do Bozo partir pro ataque de verdade, essa popularidade mia rápido. Lembre-se que a Dilma era bastante popular em 2013, e foi reeleita em 2014. Repetição é um troço muito poderoso. >Tbh the feeling that im getting is that the people are starting to be "apolitical" again, people just stop talking about politics. Oh, that much I agree with wholeheartedly. It's a side effect of the conditioning the media applied on the people. They barked at the targets that were pointed to them, but with no one pointing, they don't bark at all.
Espero que esta situação signifique que finalmente possamos lidar com o problema da polícia militar, com isso quero dizer aboli-lo.
Escutem o último episódio do podcast Foro de Teresina. No último bloco eles explicam muito bem o que está acontecendo nesse motim da PM no Ceará. O aumento de 42% da PM em Minas Gerais tem ligação direta e essa movimentação dos PMs é algo de âmbito nacional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-ur4b30aBg Paulo Ghiraldelli falando sobre os PMs e como isso reflete o que aconteceu na Bolívia.
>>291456 Relatado: https://www.noticiasbh.com.br/caetano-veloso-cobra-r-28-milhoes-de-olavo-de-carvalho-na-justica/ A primeira notícia mostra bem o abuso da liberdade de expressão sob o Estado burguês. A segunda relata um evento possivelmente importantíssimo. Os atritos entre as forças armadas do Estado e a esquerda é propositalmente fomentado pela porcalhada.
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Hoje, no JN, fiquei honestamente surpreso em ver a esquerda e a velha escória tratando o zorra no Ceará pelo que ela é, um motim, e rechaçando possibilidade de anistia. Engraçado como é sempre o lado culpado que "oferece" proposta de anistia, né não? O pós-junho deve deixar uma lição irremovível embrenhada em nossas mentes: anistia nunca mais.
>>291804 Considerando que os motins policiais estão afetando gente como Zema e o Whitney Huston, não é uma surpresa tão grande assim. Se o nacional taxismo não conseguir forçar um autogolpe policial, é bem capaz de vermos uma desmilitarização da policia.
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>>289945 >is starting to become official internet cringe material I don't know I think demon squid's pretty solid, that fiery effect: boomer/10
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>>291898 Até no Rio? O governador não devia ter as milícias e os policiais na mão? Ou será que ficaram com o circo do Bozo quando eles racharam? Sabe se há motins em estados governados pelo PSL por algum governador ainda leal ao presidente? Agora, uma hipótese diferente. > O PSDB elegeu neste ano o menor número de governadores desde 1990, quando o partido, fundado em 1988, ainda engatinhava. AI QUE DELÍCIA CARA >A sigla venceu com João Doria, em São Paulo; Eduardo Leite, no Rio Grande do Sul; e Reinaldo Azambuja, que foi reeleito em Mato Grosso do Sul. No MS, a PM parece bem alinahdo ao governador tucano. Em SP, está tudo tranqüilo, mesmo porque é ninho de tucano há uma era. O governador do RS já estava faznedo agrado desde o fim do ano passado: https://gauchazh.clicrbs.com.br/colunistas/rosane-de-oliveira/noticia/2019/12/leite-entra-com-recurso-no-stf-contra-liminar-que-barrou-orcamento-congelado-ck4oscck4010b01nvlwp2x7cm.html (o STF acaba de aprovar esse pedido, aliás) Consta também que foi um quadro tucano que acendeu a fagulha da greve dos caminhoneiros (ó lá, de novo, subversão reaça): https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2018/05/lider-da-greve-dos-caminhoneiros-e-filiado-ao-psdb-e-proximo-de-entidade-patronal.shtml Isso realmente encuca minha cuca.
>>291925 Where we're going, we don't need eyes to see...
>>291926 Não, po. As milícias é que mandam no estado.

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