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What defines the 2020's? Anonymous 11/19/2020 (Thu) 00:14:06 No. 1149899
Like, what sort of new "mode of society", if that makes sense, are we going for this decade? The 60's and 70's were all about counterculture and trying to find an alternative to the dominant societal system, the 80's were all about hyper-consumerism and giving into the hedonism and decay of late-capitalist society, the 90's was the decade when people realized that this consumerist culture is not very good actually, the 2000's saw a revival of political extremism and questioning of political authority as the world was still grappling with the consequences of the soviet collapse and finally the 10's saw a culture of hypernormalization and centralization of culture and thought into fewer and fewer "thought bubbles" as society grew even more divided, while the elites manipulated this newly emergent phenomenon of mass social media to exercise social control and control the flow of information for their own interests. Now where do we go from here? This decade we are looking at another wave of financial collapse, more global political polarization due to the emergence of new post-cold war powers and the intensification of climate change and the catastrophes it produces, plus 'rona isn't going away any time soon. How will all of this affect culture, politics, media, etc.?
It hasn't even begun how would I know.
Political violence and dysfunction. Ramping up polarization on either side, a culture of contradictory but somehow united nihilism and idealism. Our shared reality will fracture as groups move further into conspiracy. An unholy cocktail of America in the late 1960s-early 70’s and Weimar Germany.
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>>1149899 Everything will go back to normal under Joe "No Malarkey" Biden. Antifa, Proud Boys, you're days are numbered. Uncle Joe is about to Make America Normal Again.
>>1149925 Based Stalinist Biden
I find that everything feels very dream like now. Days blend together, time seems broken and people often have trouble remembering recent stuff. Everything feels distant and isolated. This has definitely changed the way people see the world and how they act. Our society has changed forever economically, culturally and socially. The closest comparison in recent memory I can think of is post 9/11.
>>1149936 Its hard rn though to say for sure what defines this era as we haven't seen its full extent yet.
>>1149936 >I find that everything feels very dream like now. Days blend together, time seems broken and people often have trouble remembering recent stuff. Everything feels distant and isolated. Dude fucking same, I've always kinda felt this but this past year was the worst wrt this. Like normally I'd be able to distinguish between Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, etc. but now especially with the lockdown and me barely leaving the house and instead spending most of the time in front of my computer everyday just feels like a slog. It feels like we've all collectively gone to prison tbh
>>1149899 >What defines the 2020's? If you are from the middle east,it's pain and let down.
>>1149966 I am indeed a sanduighur, mister dubsman.
>>1149971 Kek,but there is no sand where i live.
>>1149936 THIS, SO MUCH FUCKING THIS.
>>1149958 >It feels like we've all collectively gone to prison tbh More like solitary confinement
>>1149985 I bet Michel Foucault or one of those other French faggots talked about this before.
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>>1149995 >Pic related
>>1149992 What's with the Fr*nch and being depressed?
>>1149995 Obsessed
Life has felt for me the same ever since the 00's so more of the same really.
>>1150007 They imagine themselves being better people than they are and weep at how it’s impossible. t. Hate the French.
Setting your expectations of the entirety of the 2020s on the events of its first year is like basing the 2010s on the Chilean miners.
>>1149899 Too early to tell at this point, but hopefully revolution.
>>1149936 this must be what being a 4chan NEET feels like. I can see why they’re so crazy tbh
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>>1149925 >MANA JOE BIDEN WILL MAKE HARRY POTTER REAL?!?!!????????!!!!!
>>1149985 Fuck all you lockdown distressers, I’ve been the happiest I’ve been. Tfw get up whenever, write without worrying about annoying friends hitting me up, no social obligations, don’t feel guilty for being a loner and working from home, no shaking nasty fuckers’ hands anymore, people btfo from my walking space. Feelsgudman
>>1150248 I mean, what happened this year ain’t going away by 2021, and I will bet money that shit gets worse.
>>1150218 So apparently Macron is making it illegal to film the froggy cops
>>1149899 we won't know until its over
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>>1149913 Yeah, and there is a no growth depression because giving money to the people who moved out of the country in the first place didn't occur to most. Our military will shrink into nothing after the depression in combination with our currency will be dropped as the world reserve currency. Our future will look like standing rock where basic rights like the right to clean water will be met with police and private military violence. The decay and hollowness will spread very quickly as one trick pony economies die like in Iowa City, government revenues fallen from covid will result in government scaling back social program at the same its needed the most pushing people out in the streets except more often and almost certainly more violent. Police from fallen revenues will be absent or scaled back leaving politcal factions to fight it out. We will either learn from Germany in the 10's and 20's that violence is suicide, will scare people or we will offer a future people can believe in through non violent civil disobedience. Anymore to me is speculation.
>>1151553 Forgot to mention the climate crisis will get worse and so we are looking at a small window of time anywhere from 8 to 20 years we have to do something.
The 2020's will ve remembered as the 1210 BC. The beginning of the collapse of civilization as we know it. We will pass towards a mlre centric economy, focused on national economies as countries collapse and international trade halts to a stop because of instability, fuel scarcity and nuclear wars. A lot of people will die. Ebin :DDDDD
>>1151619 I think nuclear wars are a possibility but if that happens we are dead and most likely even people in bunkers who decided to get 25 ar-15s and 10,000 rounds of ammo for them instead of food.
>>1151619 Who will be the Sea Peoples?
>>1149899 >The 60's and 70's were all about counterculture and trying to find an alternative to the dominant societal system Nah. The 70s was more disillusion over everything, stagnation, birth of the modern environmental movement and terrorism. The 70s popular culture had this antihumanist streak that really bloomed in the early 80s. This is a very broad brush, but everyting from the popularity of H.R. Giger to The Ramones and punk rock in general would be very hard to imagine without the oil crisis.
>>1149958 >Dude fucking same, I've always kinda felt this but this past year was the worst wrt this. Like normally I'd be able to distinguish between Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, etc. but now especially with the lockdown and me barely leaving the house and instead spending most of the time in front of my computer everyday just feels like a slog. It feels like we've all collectively gone to prison tbh Me too. I think that it's because our days are too similar. Would there be a way to break it by doing specific tasks at specific weekdays?
>>1151643 there used to be TV shows also but now they are all garbage and none are being made anyway due to the plandemic
>>1151627 Unironically sub-saharan africans not gonna say black people because it doesn't really matter if they were black or white, the same would happen You need to understand that the sea people were not actual fighters, but refugees which got an advantage against the bronze era kingdoms thanks to iron smelting, which was more easier to find that copper and tin, which in turn made it so they had more manpower and better weapons. Add to that that making a gun from scratch ain't that hard (you can use a 3d printer to do it for you ffs), just gonna cast the parts and put it together, and that africa is already a anarchic hellhole to live in in which you can easily buy and distribute AK-47s. Add to that that the states in europe (and north africa) will start collapsing because of good old climate change and nuclear war, and subsaharan africa collapsing further because of both tribal tensions, a lot of weapons and most important, climate change, are gonna make it so most of them want to get to north Africa in order to get to Europe, which will turn into a domino effect northwards. And as european weaponry will be located in eastern europe because of good old fationed world war, the states in europe wouldn't have the capacity of just using superior weaponry against the 2020's sea people. Yeah it's gonna we wild. Here's a great documentary explaining about the bronze age collapse, how it wasn't the fault of the sea people and how the culprit was actually climate change: https://youtu.be/B965f8AcNbw In fact most of the empires collapsed on its own, as they couldn't feed the populace.
>>1151643 >I think that it's because our days are too similar Bruh I nearly suffered a mental breakdown in August because I realized literally every day is exactly the same for me in almost every way and it was starting to make me question reality and have constant deja vu
>>1151669 With the whole sea peoples thing too.... Wasn’t it actually mostly the Mesopotamian states that went to war against one another due to resource issues and then a collection of previously insignificant Mesopotamian states moving in for the kill while the old empires were already weak? Pretty sure the Sea Peoples don’t come in until near the end anyway
>>1151680 Yeah, well. I don't think it was that there were wars for resources, but general lack of food because of a lack of both rain and light as a volcano exploded in Iceland (hey, pretty similar to nuclear winter) They pretty much broke apart on it's own, and then the sea people appeared (as said, they were refugees from Sicily and other places that went there because in their places there were no food), just making things worse, but it was nkt the fault of the sea peoples, just shit that happened because of a lack of food produced because of, you know, not enough light.
>>1151660 >plandemic Oh, well. Nice knowing you. >>1151671 >Bruh I nearly suffered a mental breakdown in August because I realized literally every day is exactly the same for me in almost every way and it was starting to make me question reality and have constant deja vu As the Anon above mentioned, TV shows used to be a good way of keeping time. But that can be done in a virtual way. Just whip out your DVDs from the basement. Monday evening you watch one episod series A, Tuesdays series B and so on. Then a couple of evenings could be movie nights. Then there's other habits such as taking walks. Doesn't have to be long. But if you have like a short Wednesday walk it will structure the time.
>>1151691 (me) It wasn't that someone collapsed those civilizations, they collapsed on themselves.
>>1151553 >non violent civil disobedience >>1151581 >Forgot to mention the climate crisis will get worse and so we are looking at a small window of time anywhere from 8 to 20 years we have to do something. That reminds me of XR (that has already splintered). They have this strange ideas of not only violence but also that being in prison gives you plenty of time to do yoga. They also think that if enough people are arrested then the police will be disgusted so that they turn sides. Or something. And don't get me started on their habit of gluing themselves to things, following the assumption that the police wouldn't hurt them. Even if they won't there's still a risk of fractures and torn ligaments if you glue your palm to the ground. Also hypothermic damages. And if you pull that bullshit in Istanbul, the riot police won't pamper you...
>>1151695 >Then there's other habits such as taking walks. Doesn't have to be long. But if you have like a short Wednesday walk it will structure the time. I take two walks a day to go smoke a J It was actually during a walk when I realized all of this and nearly had a breakdown
The 2020s will be the decade where this stupid, all-consuming "zeitgeist" conception people have is shattered forever. Liberals who are in with the new order imagine some antiseptic world where poor people are pushed out of sight, and they may be able to maintain the illusion or continue their scorn of the underclass. The underclass will be too busy scrambling to care about some belief about what the decade is supposed to mean. Workers, those that still exist, will shut up and do the work. Trump believers will still be buying into the faggotry and promises that Trump will bring Reagan back. You have large groups of people who will be increasingly segregated from each other, who share less and less of a common bond and live in worlds far apart. If you asked someone what their experience of the last decade was, you'd get a few different responses based on their class, and whether they liked Obama or not. For the most part, we have been on roughly 30-year cycles where each decade is recycled, since mass consumer culture was developed. But now there will be a sudden freezing of history, at least in the media, as the official propaganda becomes increasingly unhinged and fanatical. Of course, it could all go up in smoke if they decide WW3 is a great idea. If that happens, all bets are off. But nobody wants a general war, not even the maniacs in Washington who believe in the Clash of Civilizations bullshit.
>>1149936 You're just living in my world. Been NEET since 2007, after working graveyard shifts for 4 years. The days really stop mattering as you disconnect from a lot of social interaction. I waited a long time before I properly joined the 21st century and got one of those newfangled smartphones, and I still pay my bills with paper checks because I don't want to mess with what was set up before.
>>1151724 Well actually I like XR. I think the way it needs to he done is like MLK where we March together in protest. Another thing we could do is like occupy where we occupy lol. Or we could do sit down strikes. I mean say what you want about police but they supported the teachers protests near where I live in Chicago. We don't have fight to win, all we have to do is give people a future to believe in instead of brawl in the streets when things get bad in December and January.
>>1149899 Consumerism, Hedonism, wokeism and and blumpfkins s e e t h i n g
>>1151680 most of the crisis was famines due to soil degradation, the sea peoples were just climate refugees from a Mediterranean drought. Most greeks actually, as well as some anatolians, and probably the sardinians.
>What defines the 2020's Hot take coming in: The bourgergoisie will miscalculate and missmanaged savagery will loose them the loyalty of the military. Caleb maupin will become the Lenin of the 21 century with American characteristics. Cortez will go through a unruhian struggle session and become his second in command, and together they will install a government of action that fights for working families. American socialism will come in suits and nice hairdos. They will make indoor sunglasses mandatory, because the future will be so bright that it requires eye-protection. Supreme department head Maupin will meat general Secretary Xi and call off the cold war and work out a plan to re-industiralise the hinterland and launch a great green competition to reverse the ecolaps.
>>1152028 >Supreme department head meant to say people's department head
Bump
>>1151906 Diversity of tactics. Remember it.
What defines the 2020's? The notorious start of the fall of the U.S. empire.

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