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>>1291404 >Thanks for the replies to this. The question I see that is confounding the left is how the right is reacting to changes in the ruling class and specifically how it reproduces itself (liberal universalism) given its much greater scope of power. The left then jumps in to say the liberalism of the haute bourgeoisie is more progressive than the culturally conservative petty bourgeoisie in spite of, actually because of, imperialism. This is because democratic progress is in spite of the demos, and so it has to be based on not the historically progressive national bourgeoisie, but a more international one that is supplanting it. I don't get what you're trying to say. It seems you're trying to make some kind of comparison between liberals and conservatives, but where is your critique of the conservatives? To me there is no merit to one or the other. I only support one or the other to maximize the damage they can potentially do to one another. It's been a fantastic 4 years.
>>1291418 >I don't get what you're trying to say. It seems you're trying to make some kind of comparison between liberals and conservatives, but where is your critique of the conservatives? Can you explain what you don't get? Also, I assume the criticism of conservatives is they are just as capitalist as liberals. Liberals are just more progressive since they are both capitalists and universalists.
>>1291420 >Can you explain what you don't get? Also, I assume the criticism of conservatives is they are just as capitalist as liberals. Liberals are just more progressive since they are both capitalists and universalists. Yeah they're both the same. So I don't give a flying fuck about their social media crackdown against the conservatives.
>>1291421 >Yeah they're both the same. So I don't give a flying fuck about their social media crackdown against the conservatives Does this work both ways, do commies not give a fuck about the populist petty bourgeois threat to liberal democracy?
>>1291422 >Does this work both ways, do commies not give a fuck about the populist petty bourgeois threat to liberal democracy? I wish they were more of a threat.
>>1291423 >I wish they were more of a threat. Based. Is this how the true left thinks? Want a yellow vest movement with MAGA?
>>1291427 No, we just think it's funny for reactionaries and liberals to be fighting with each other.
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>>1291190 <like this board believes in the Illuminati, but calls them Porky. >>1291350 <this board need to read about Gnon or Moloch WEW E W
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>>1291427 I'm down with any proles that are fighting for something sensible like an actual better standard of living for themselves or for all of us. But The MAGA crowd seems obsessed with the dumbest shit. Deal breakers: 1 Religious nuttery 2 Patriotic founding daddy worship 3 Racism So I know not all of the MAGA adjacent groups are racist, at least not explicitly so. Seems like the first two is by far the majority with all of the groups. Also all this whining about television is hilarious to me. You know all hardcore leftists and MLs have hated TV for ever right? My father is a former ML revolutionary and he was on some strict only 1 half hour of TV when I was growing up. Some of his former ML friends had a rule with his kids no TV during weekdays. A lot of western leftists are adamantly against owning a TV whatsover. So all this MAGA whining about kids cartoons is hilarious to me. It's your own dumbass fault for letting the idiot box raise your children.
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>>1291438 <t. picrel
>>1291438 >My father is a former ML revolutionary and he was on some strict only 1 half hour of TV when I was growing up. Some of his former ML friends had a rule with his kids no TV during weekdays. That's just a high class thing. TV and screens in general are for the poor. Let me guess, your father was a student activist and is now a comfortable PMC who voots bloo.
>>1291448 >TV and screens in general are for the poor. Let me guess, your father was a student activist Yes. >and is now a comfortable PMC who voots bloo. Nope. Came to this country with nothing. Got a job with MTA counting coins by hand, worked his way into a union position, did the 20 years and now he has a pension.
>>1237592 >breaking the only two rules for flags I remember, >No Complex Shapes >No Words >choosing sloppy pictoral cowardice over a strong and confident simplification of the flower's form >using weak little words only some can read, instead of primal visions such as the cross >stupid little top star has some extra unnecessary detail in it when it's already colored and sized differently any sansfederate flag is an easy 9/10 at least
>>1237462 Extremes are easier to point at.
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>>1291465 Case in point.
>>1291447 I don't get it.
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>>1291427 Anyone outside of some polyps actually want a left/right yellow vest movement? I don't see how your gonna convince the trump personality cult of boomer zionist and lumpen nazi shit heads. To work with black bloc or antfia. Lots of them are already saying it was antfia the stormed the capitol. Any collaboration and the right will end up immediately backstabbing people.
>>1291448 >TV and screens in general are for the poor For the poor in braincells. >>1291469 Yeah I just laugh at them. It's funny how they suddenly start spamming us about not supporting them enough and that we should join up with them IMMEDIATELY after they get BTFO hard. Shameless.
>>1291190 This. They're just as brain damaged as Qtards.
McConnell won't convene the Senate for Trump's impeachment trial until after Trump's term is gone. Look's like McConnell and McCarthy are doing backroom deals with Trump before his term is over.
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>>1291479 They were just taking their white country back from the corrupt kikes and women in government. You can't steal what is rightfully yours. :`)
>>1291469 Everything has to come down to "the downtrodden masses against capitalism" for you people doesn't it
>>1291350 Please read Marx. Or Red Kahina at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i laugh so i don't cry we live in such a boring dystopia.
>>1291490 >Everything has to come down to "the downtrodden masses against capitalism" for you people doesn't it Vs. what?
>>1291477 >I believe capital is a self-propagating thinking machine >I'm totally not delusional
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>>1291492 That report is great news - if it passes, you save one reconciliation bill out of 3 per year for other things Republicans won't get on board with. Biden knows how the Senate works, and he knows there's no time to dawdle. Which is why he's floating this now, not after inauguration. If McConnell decides to turn on Trump, bipartisanship and getting shit done is also good for him trying to win back suburbs.
>>1291454 Follow your leader
>>1291469 >2nd pic Basically this. Much as with OWS in 2011 being big enough to include Tea Party, or WTO protests in 1999 being big enough to include LOLberts, I'm fine working with rightards for something worth caring about. Activism primarily for something dumb, though, is something I feel zero obligation to participate in. Maybe you right-wingers should come back and give us a ring when there are rent protests or something else over meaningful issues happening later this year.
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>>1291496 Rich capitalists are just as enslaved to capitalism as downtrodden proles are. It's a beast bigger than all of us, and realizing this fact requires reading a lot of theory. >>1291496
>>1291507 >Maybe you right-wingers should come back and give us a ring when there are rent protests or something else over meaningful issues happening later this year. How about a Tiki torch anti-great-replacement rally?
>>1291507 I mean even in a made up fantasy world were right wingers objectives weren't stupid. Or if we collectively became retarded and decided to help them. How would they even would the even convince their own side into accepting leftist? Like we would actually see trump flags and commie flags next to eachother to confront the police? The logistics and things that would have to happen to make this political viable border on real time alt-history fantasy.
>>1291448 >it’s classist to think poorly of burger television This board really took a fucking nosedive
>>1291490 You are not special, despite what your mommy has told you.
>>1291527 No, but it's a sign of being high class to have the education, resources and power of will to abstain from it. The higher your socioeconomic status the less time you spend in front of a screen.
>>1291536 >No, but it's a sign of being high class to have the education, resources and power of will to abstain from it. The higher your socioeconomic status the less time you spend in front of a screen. Lel. What resources? The resource of not owning a TV? It's called a book and you can rent them for free mouth breather.
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>a left/right yellow vest movement >with MAGA in minecraft, right? should i tell my right fam to leave the ammo they bought after jan 6 at home or do you guys want some at the next vesty? i'm not going to be there but it's explicitly, specifically for you, so you don't have to ask. you can just take it.
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>>1291526 I think part of the problem is that even "left-wing" protests have been absolute garbage for so long. Like the Floyd protests that were absolutely allergic to any kind of coherent message beyond meaningless platitudes, so the most identifiable idea to come out of it was "privatized police and austerity, but woke". Nothing has even approached the obvious, undeniably valid demands of something as simple as the antiwar rallies in 2002.
>>1291469 >Anyone outside of some polyps actually want a left/right yellow vest movement? I don't see how your gonna convince the trump personality cult of boomer zionist and lumpen nazi shit heads Chud here. Sort of, the point isnt to convince them but split them The original launching point for populism was neocon economic and fopo betrayal mixed with a sense that PMC lib institutions benefited greatly from globalization while the rest of the country was left to rot. The left, in the sense of you guys, ranked in last in consciousness and the anger directed towards you is mostly the sense you are opportunistic students supporting Make Capitalism Progressive Again so long as populism represents the nation state in crisis and an opportunity for changing the cultural preconditions for the left So you can have a yellow vest movement with people who think it's a grift to suggest a crisis in capitalism and the elites are actually a crisis in intransigent whiteness, you probably can't get people who are interested in traditional liberties >>1291473 >Yeah I just laugh at them. It's funny how they suddenly start spamming us about not supporting them enough and that we should join up with them IMMEDIATELY after they get BTFO hard. Shameless. That's not what happened at all. That behavior has been brewing for a while because there's a strong belief in the western left not being interested in overthrowing the state and capital. We think you are banking on the civil society created by the same people condemned as endemically reactionary in a contradiction, and to that end support liberal capitalism as it globalizes.
>>1291555 >"privatized police and austerity, but woke". Well poor people live in neighborhoods where the police don't actually stop or solve crimes, so abolishing the police doesn't mean the same thing to them that it does to bourgeios. Nobody was recommending privatizing police. The defund the police was just about moving money away from the police force and towards social programs. So the opposite of austerity.
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EVERYONE SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_mY0pl7PSo
>>1291563 >That's not what happened at all. That behavior has been brewing for a while because there's a strong belief in the western left not being interested in overthrowing the state and capital. Nah dude. I'm a regular on this board. I saw the wave of /polyps/ trying to move in starting on The 6th. >We think you are banking on the civil society created by the same people condemned as endemically reactionary in a contradiction, and to that end support liberal capitalism as it globalizes. You also think the moon is made of swiss cheese and a super-jew came back from the dead. Who gives a fuck what you think.
>>1291466 I don't think I've seen a single convincing argument as to how recognizing distinct groups of people are making your life miserable rather than a nebulously defined corpprate system (which isn't even at the wheel BTW, all they ever do is take orders) makes you unable to improve it
>>1291569 Go away retard. Go back to pol.
>>1291569 Well, when you put it that way, it arguably makes some sense on it's face, but now that I've wasted just a few more seconds of your time, have you considered that I don't care and I didn't ask?
>>1291567 I am. It's good. Thanks.
>>1291568 >Nah dude. I'm a regular on this board. I saw the wave of /polyps/ trying to move in starting on The 6th Yea because you were seen as contradicting yourself within a year of the BLM protests in addition to all your stuff about antiwar, opposing the surveillance state, opposing neoliberalism, everything. We think you compromised with all of your revolutionary platforms to confront a more immediate threat in alliance with liberals. I'm not sure if that's incorrect. >>1291568 >You also think the moon is made of swiss cheese and a super-jew came back from the dead. Who gives a fuck what you think Am I wrong? The first thing you'll notice on the far left is all the hatred for the moderation that rehabilitated bourgeois democracy and its soft power. Everything from eurocommunism to democratic socialism, with its implied middle class, first world character. I think there's an intelligent conversation to be had between populists and marxists/anarchists on capital and the state in relation to democratic revolution. We have a blatant antagonism with the former. You, yourselves, seem split on our relation to the latter, whether r*rals and whitoids have a role in the struggle.
>>1291540 >let them eat cake You are just thinly disguising your contempt for the poor.
>>1291569 Is a jewish prole more responsible for your life being miserable than a bourgeois gentile?
>>1291579 Nice.
>>1291551 Oh, and >>1291555 >yellow vest movement Case in point: Those protests, while they expanded in a variety of directions, were from the start and remained at their core about austerity. Even as attempts were made to smear its opposition to a fuel tax as reactionary anti-environmentalism, yellow vests remained keen in their emphasis that this was itself a product of neoliberal underinvestment in French public transport: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/world/europe/france-yellow-vests-social-mobility.html >>1291564 All such arguments ring hollow in the face of the deliberately vague and misleading "defund" slogan. If there was any sincerity whatsoever, other slogans such as "reduce funding" would've been appropriate.
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>>1291583 >Yea because you were seen as contradicting yourself within a year of the BLM protests in addition to all your stuff about antiwar, opposing the surveillance state, opposing neoliberalism, everything. We think you compromised with all of your revolutionary platforms to confront a more immediate threat in alliance with liberals. I'm not sure if that's incorrect. It is incorrect. This is a goddamn anonymous image board. People post all kinds of viewpoints. The only thing I want, and the only realistic goal I can see is destroying American hegemony. Any kind of trying to improve the lives Americans sadly has to be an after thought. So BLM good, Fascist response to BLM good, MAGA nuts good, Fascist response to MAGA also good. Gas for the dumpster >You, yourselves, seem split on our relation to the latter, whether r*rals and whitoids have a role in the struggle. How is licking boots "struggling."
>>1291600 >It is incorrect. This is a goddamn anonymous image board. People post all kinds of viewpoints. The only thing I want, and the only realistic goal I can see is destroying American hegemony. Any kind of trying to improve the lives Americans sadly has to be an after thought. So BLM good, Fascist response to BLM good, MAGA nuts good, Fascist response to MAGA also good. Gas for the dumpster Well, I'm talking about your social media and the leftist parties or organizations >>1291600 >How is licking boots "struggling." We don't lick boots. Thats a dumb meme.
>>1291583 >Lib/left alliance I must of missed when Nick Mullen the president of DSA antifa met with Joe Biden to form a popular front. Or maybe that shit never happened. Instead maybe we've barely exist for 7 years and been rebuilding a movement from the ground up and have barely started being a political factor. Meanwhile pol memed themselves into thinking the T.V grifter man from New York was the next Hitler. Got grifted into supporting basic bitch austerity conservatism again. Then sat around on a pile of guns saying how they were going to round us up and the day of the rope was around the corner. Only to absolutely fail at a coup were you had multiple advantages. Now that the heads of your movement have been purged and are being hunted by the FBI. You guys come here saying "I can't believe the left gave up on the platform of saving us?" What the fuck are you talking about? Just admit you were wrong about everything. Drop your dumb ideology and the mysticism and actually learn about the material world. There didn't need to be an alliance between us and the libs to beat you. The libs beat you because you guys are tards being lead be the king of tards.
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>>1291638 >your social media and the leftist parties or organizations Those aren't "us" If they were, we wouldn't be lurking on a splinter of a splinter of a splinter of an anonymous Taiwanese puppetshow corkboard
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>>1291638 >We don't lick boots. Thats a dumb meme. What else can you describe thin-blue-line faggotry as? So have you all dropped all of that in a week? What are you guys going to do with all your Chinese merchandise? Thin blue line flag burning party?
>>1291377 Comfy
>>1291654 >I must of missed when Nick Mullen the president of DSA antifa met with Joe Biden to form a popular front. Thats not what I meant. You commies struggle in the first world and I sympathize. You struggle to be more than student reformists because you struggle to connect to more culturally conservative poor people and more socially conservative rurals. This is in contrast to the past, where in places like Russia and China you had no such urban-rural problem and disconnect from the poor. Rightoid populism saw the gaps and tried to fill them because we believed you gave up and were just betting on capitalist centralization, among other social trends. >Instead maybe we've barely exist for 7 years and been rebuilding a movement from the ground up and have barely started being a political factor. Meanwhile pol memed themselves into thinking the T.V grifter man from New York was the next Hitler. Got grifted into supporting basic bitch austerity conservatism again. Oh come on. No, we meme'd him into office because he represented a rebuke to liberals who wanted to coast into victory with globalization while the country was being hollowed out and our social relations/institutions (like the family) were dying. Meanwhile, where were the socialists? They were quiet. No antiwar movements over Ukraine and syria, no campaign to help assange and Snowden, no outreach to rurals and rust belt people who abandoned Obama after the first term, no real alternative to neoliberalism. Instead, we got idpol from a neoliberal dynasty candidate (Clinton) who called us deplorables on top of defending the miserable recovery limited to the 'forward looking' parts of the country she won. Of course nationalism came back! It was never a grift or false consciousness, it was a rising tide that filled in the gaps of liberal and socialist contradictions in the globalizing West in the war on terror era. >>1291654 >Then sat around on a pile of guns saying how they were going to round us up and the day of the rope was around the corner. Only to absolutely fail at a coup were you had multiple advantages. Now that the heads of your movement have been purged and are being hunted by the FBI. You guys come here saying "I can't believe the left gave up on the platform of saving us?" What the fuck are you talking about? Just admit you were wrong about everything. Drop your dumb ideology and the mysticism and actually learn about the material world You are forgetting this, much like idpol, is a response to the shortcomings of Marxist materialism in explaining things in the west sometime after ww2. And what of the question of the nation state in the future of capitalism? You guys still haven't answered that as a very haute bourgeois kind of liberal cosmopolitanism asserts moral superiority over and therefore right to govern the nation. >>1291669 >What else can you describe thin-blue-line faggotry as? So have you all dropped all of that in a week? What are you guys going to do with all your Chinese merchandise? Thin blue line flag burning party? Very funny, red. Nobody cares about the police, especially the federal kind. They just don't like the media cycle's coverage of police shootings, they resembled a post truth secular religion where the facts don't matter, just how we can tie modern policing to slave chasers.
>>1291567 ok Alex DeLarge
trump is rural working class why wont you commies understand
>>1291715 >trump is rural working class why wont you commies understand Never said that
>>1291704 >Very funny, red. Nobody cares about the police, especially the federal kind. They just don't like the media cycle's coverage of police shootings, they resembled a post truth secular religion where the facts don't matter, just how we can tie modern policing to slave chasers. Bruh your gaslighting is beyond weak. We weren't born yesterday. KYS, FR.
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>>1291704 >we meme'd him into office because he represented a rebuke to liberals >Nobody cares about the police, especially the federal kind. I realize you're now being a bit more careful not to lump us in with the libs, but remember the far right, /pol/ included, was SWAMPED with unironic head-in-the-sand Trump-tards, with any and every critique of Trump & his ilk in other countries (e.g.: Bolsonaro, Johnson, Orbán, etc.) no matter how mild being shouted down by indoctrinated users & jannies alike, as such lickspittles made up THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD on both h8chan & cuckchan. Something analogous NEVER happened on /leftypol/ >where were the socialists? Being suppressed by the shitlibs, duh.
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>>1291567 some good ol' ludwig van
>>1291364 doomkino is back on the menu
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>>1291364 >>1291377 >>1291736 Got one more for yall.
>>1291728 >Bruh your gaslighting is beyond weak. We weren't born yesterday. KYS, FR I'm not gaslighting. I'm relating conversations I saw between right wingers. Blue lives matter is about the media and the Obama admin, not black people, police, or the left. >>1291731 >I realize you're now being a bit more careful not to lump us in with the libs, but remember the far right, /pol/ included, was SWAMPED with unironic head-in-the-sand Trump-tards, with any and every critique of Trump & his ilk in other countries (e.g.: Bolsonaro, Johnson, Orbán, etc.) no matter how mild being shouted down by indoctrinated users & jannies alike, as such lickspittles made up THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD on both h8chan & cuckchan. We were excited to finally have a mass movement of our own. Not allowed in institutions or to organize like you do, we finally had our voice to remind national elites we will not accept an alignment between liberals and neoliberalism as the 'next step' in democratic growth. We named liberalism as bourgeois and globalization as accelerating capitalist dictatorship. We called out multiculturalism as falsely inclusive and a cover for the blatant managerialism of liberal institutions and their detached professionals. We then tied it all to the export of liberalism abroad, and how this conditions endless war and empire. Trump was not our Hitler, he was our Bonaparte. >Something analogous NEVER happened on /leftypol/ That's true, but we did break the wider left with Trump/brexit the isolation and failure of Bernie and Cornyn. You guys dropped everything to oppose nationalism even though neolibs, not civil rights activists or something, spawned it. Now we are struggling and you guys still seem stillborn, what with the latest spat between Jimmy Dore and AOC being indicative. So why not drop the antifascist crap, Bordiga is right that it distorts you, and pursue a yellow vest movement with MAGA if we drop the hyperventilating about SJWs and out the antisemites? Just call us the national petty bourgeoisie, a crossover of the national bourgeoisie used to describe the KMT and the petty bourgeoisie in contrast to the PMC, and offer us a place in a democratic revolution to decentralize power and not mend wounds but create shared vehicles and connections between city and countryside.
>>1291761 >you guys >the latest spat between Jimmy Dore and AOC I don't think you realize just how much ideological distance there is between /leftypol/ & even the most fringe elements of the libs/succdems. If this board were to point to talking heads most of us generally agree with, it would be people like Slajov Zizek.
>>1291364 why they all on the floor?
>>1291715 >rural working class is driving $70k Silverados and live in suburbs Ok retard
>>1291704 >prols are all culturally conservative Total meme, prols are mostly libs and apolitical. Especially in the first world. Because the media they consume is lib. And it's not that way because "the jews" but because its what sells. Also we know they aren't culturally conservative because if they were than you wouldn't be constantly bitching how "degenerate" and "morally corrupted" society has become. Even more laughable is even most conservatives aren't culturally conservative. Nobody wants to waste a weekend going to church and court chaste maidens. The problem with the working class isn't that they're reactionaries. The problem is convincing them out of their own political apathy. The biggest obstacle I've ran into organizating isn't people worried about trans bathrooms but that they don't actually believe the system can be changed for the better. >globalism meme I dont know what you guys mean when you use this word. Its certainly not global Capitalism you're talking about. It seems your more mad that international trade and relationship exist. Which has always been the case since the first to civilizations met eachother. >why weren't you guys in the media denouncing neo-liberisim? Why it is pretty crazy you never see any communist in the media. And every question from furthest left politican in America starts with "Venezuela". It seem like there's been a massive effort to suppress and libel communist. I wonder why nationalism came back when CNN was playing trumps empty podium instead the massive bernie rally. Or how every new York times journalist went to small mid-west town to talk to some boat dealership owners with a swastika tattoo and called them the "forgotten man". Its almost like you guys were the fucking idol distraction propped up by the libs and tossed out once your usefulness came to pass. And it was easy because despite all your circle Jerking about gaming out the upcoming Civil War. You guys couldn't even bother wearing mask and stop live streaming yourselves when committing felonies. >prols actually don't mind when police shoot their dog, kid, tear gas their baby or seize the shit. They just don't like being reminded of it I guess all 5 months of nationwide protest was actually about getting rid of body cams. Who the fuck knew?
>>1291469 No, it's not possible. You want the Trump voters who were on the fence the same way you want disillusioned democrat. Zealots who are part of a cult are absolutely useless.
>>1291761 Oh, and >pursue a yellow vest movement with MAGA As I said upthread, when a movement pops up over an issue that actually matters, rather than something lame like "orange gameshow man needs your help because he didn't rig enough in the rigged game that had no options that every could've worked out on your favor", then sure. Until then, it's not worth caring about. >>1291770 Because Biden was too cheapass to pay for hotels or let them build camps, so da troops literally have nowhere to sleep but in the lobbies of fed office buildings.
>>1291769 >I don't think you realize just how much ideological distance there is between /leftypol/ & even the most fringe elements of the libs/succdems. >If this board were to point to talking heads most of us generally agree with, it would be people like Slajov Zizek I like Zizek a lot too and I'm a chud. He destroyed JP. Zizek tacitly supported Trump in 2016 and called for an alliance between the alt right and the Bernie supporters against neoliberalism. So, MAGA-antifa yellow vest struggle when? I think the KMT-CCP relationship is a fine precedent since they acknowledged each other as sharing the same roots in a democratic revolution and opposing imperialism. We just are a little more petty bourgeois and less urban. The other parallel I see is Lenin's democratic dictatorship of the proletariat and the peasantry. This formula was invented to become independent of the urban petty bourgeoisie, their equivalent of the PMC suburbanite shitlib that fawned over the constituent assembly
>>1291775 Imagine seriously believing that proles are begging to embrace mongrelization and LGBTBBQABC cults
>>1291783 >It seems your more mad that international trade and relationship exist. Which has always been the case since the first to civilizations met eachother. Trade has always existed. Open borders unrestricted by protectionist measures such as tariffs & quotas, however, have not. >>1291783 His argument on that subject was most people DGAF either way and just want to be left alone, which is obviously true.
>>1291783 Hey let's do an experiment than. Go up to a random worker. Cashier, construction, plumber or whatever. Ask them of theyre concerned about the "mongrelization" of America. And ill do the same and ask of theyre tired of getting assfucked by their boss. And will see who makes more traction. The idea that workers are insane racist that won't talk to you in less you passed the one drop test with a 23 and me. Is much like Donald Trump, stupid bullshit to keep people divided. Libs want you to think workers are all irredeemable conservatives because it justifies austerity. I want you to answer me. Did you really believe that trump was a threat to the liberal establishment or culture? Of anything he's impowered it. Why do you think the media covered him so much? Why do you think his tweets were "breaking news"?
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>>1291818 >Did you really believe that trump was a threat to the liberal establishment or culture? Yes. We are the Bolsheviks now. Why not recognize we are not the reactionary stooges of the ruling class and are genuinely struggling against its next neoliberal stage of growth? What makes us different from a national liberation struggle against the imperialist bourgeoisie?
>>1291818 It funny because when that happens, it turns out the proletariat isn't in favour of the liberal ideology https://elfinanciero.com.mx/nacional/campesinos-agreden-a-personas-lgbt-e-irrumpen-en-bellas-artes-por-pintura-gay-de-zapata >LGBT groups paint a mexican revolutionary her as queer >OG zapatistas travel all the way from the South of Mexico to Mexico City to pu an end on that filth Lol
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>>1291835 Because both "sides" in the "struggle" over the "issue" your pic refers to are nothing but a distraction from actual issues neither talks about
>>1291846 >Because both "sides" in the "struggle" over the "issue" your pic refers to are nothing but a distraction from actual issues neither talks about Unfortunately true. I dont see the problem with LGBT and don't like retreating into Christianity to find logic to reject it because of an overbearing institution. Idpol is dumb, Trump good though
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>>1291835 Neck yourself retard
>>1291835 read a fucking book please
Can this board get even more retarded? Then again, I don't expect much from MURICANS
>>1291867 >Can this board get even more retarded? Then again, I don't expect much from MURICANS T. Vassal state dweller.
>>1291861 >Neck yourself retard >>1291866 >read a fucking book please Can you explain?
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>FBI is now claiming MIGAtards are setting up car bombs across the capitol >DC is basically shutting down everything over the election week >mayor has already told residents to be prepared to be stopped and screened at random by law enforcement and military during the week
comrade trump and his based goldman sachs alumni appointees are going to gulag the neoliberals you'll all see
>>1291870 coming from a corporate slave who'll face more jail time for stealing a hamburger than your pedophile masters
>>1291870 Honestly a lot smaller than I imagined
The fact that something so obvious and ultimately mundane (impeachment for inciting insurrection) is so hyped up and politicized makes many people automatically have doubt. Especially those who are contrarian by default. >this is considered a big deal so something must be wrong with it When in reality it's the bare minimum. Less, in fact. In most other countries Trump would have already been arrested.
>>1291400 >>spectrofsankara >>account suspended Welp. She's a Twitterati alright, despite the lack of the mark. She's calling for Republicans to be purged and everything. Pay attention to who will be your betters from now on, fellas, and don't make them look bad on Twitter if you know what's good for ya. >>1291367 He's crying conspiracy theorist in a place aware of the near-ubiquituous American influence in the past century. Every damn fucking time a leftist was smeared as a conspiracy theorist, he was eventually vindicated. And now, stating the obvious fact that media and State affairs are more symbiotic than ever gets that treatment. Like fuck. Try telling a normie the Syrian gas attacks were rather clearly a false flag, and you'll get the same reply that first post did to me.
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I voted for Biden so I wouldn't have to hear about Trump again after his inauguration I fucking hate this world
>>1237406 Oh my Francis Tweetman, god I could regale you of stories of her. But I'll leave it at this: she ran to be an MEP, and lost really, really hard.
>>1291911 what a boring story
>>1291896 >He's crying conspiracy theorist Which is wholly appropriate given that one of the main objections to capitalism is its lack of any long term intent leading to escalating catastrophes on the way to total systemic collapse >near-ubiquituous American influence in the past century Largely due to rival porkies being even bigger screwups >>1291900 Remember back when we thought Trump's victory in '16 would result in a pivot away from the moronic IdPol nonsense that lost them that election? They're going to keep milking it for all it's worth.
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>>1291900 Trump hating is a religion now. It even has it's own Jesus.
>>1291900 >150 days of trump impeach drama after biden already in they'll definitely do this. the media and the political class love this crap. they get to do a giant self absorbed circle jerk focused on procedures, palace scandal and DC soap opera. Then they don't have to talk about policy or doing anything to to benefit the masses. It's the perfect distraction to suck the air out of every other issue: >The most important issue in the world is this one that will have no impact on your life! They'll drag it out as much as they can.
>>1291932 what did eric clapton do?
>>1291934 That's not Erikkk Kkklapton.
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>>1291939 I'm just gonna go ahead and remove EriKKK KKKlapton from all my playlists. What a clown. No wonder he's aging like porridge with his bitch ass.
>>1291939 /britpol/ OUT Only general on the board worse than this one
>>1291933 >stimulus money? But we got a dang cheeto on the loose!
>>1291939 >builds career on copying black blues guys, wants blacks deported
>>1291946 good thing his kid never got to see him like this
>>1291952 apparently his brexit rant was from 1976 tho
>>1291954 >he doesn't know
>>1291589 Which one of them is more innately likely to express an open competent for you on the basis of you being white?
>>1291939 This is shocking tbh. He's the last person I would expect to be racist. Are all white people just racist? If someone can prove that Paul McCartney is racist, I'm done with white people.
>>1291939 >thanks for the licks >now go back how can you tell the difference between a young child and a bag of cocaine? clapton would never let a bag of cocaine fall from a manhattan high-rise
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Also it's telling how even with how feddish this is, it's still not even that wrong
>>1291958 >Are all white people just racist? yes >If someone can prove that Paul McCartney is racist, I'm done with white people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcjBF1uj6Do You should have been done with yts a long time ago.
>>1291961 >le never read a single jewish author >now a expert on jewtricks lyke a baws
>>1291957 The bourgie.
>>1291957 >an open competent wew lad, lay off the addy
>>1291950 Copying American black guys
>>1291961 This guy is literally admitting to intentionally making himself more retarded. Incredible.
>>1291974 >game of thrones reference holy fuck what a faggot
>>1291974 Now that Harry Potter is #cancelled, normalfags need new touchstones.
>>1291982 Was just about to post this. The glowies either bribed him or told him he wasn't going to make it back from his trip in Texas.
>>1291983 Game of Thrones isn't as culturally influential as Harry Potter, sorry m8.
>>1291975 >Haha this guy is making himself more retarded on purpose! Anyways you have to stay inside for the next 100000 years to stop the spread of a virus with a literal 0.01% mortality rate
/pol/yp
>>1291987 I honestly thought it would be Marvelshit
>>1291989 You forgot to say the word jew I am now confused and disheartened
>>1291982 >This is fascism in America.
>>1291974 RUDY2020 AT CHECKOUT
>>1291866 Who even said anyting about them trying to fix its contradictions? This is Porky getting together to better prevent us from fixing those things, like he always did. It's not a conspiracy, it's simple shared class interest.
>>1291932 Libs are using Trump as an effigy to blow off steam for all their subconscious capitalist ennui
>>1291982 >Not pictured glow rifles pointed at Presidents head off camera.
>>1291881 This is the fascism antifa must be blabbing about, oh wait no they’re simping for cops now because ackshually trump is the real fascist
>>1291990 Marvelshit is alongside Harry Potter in liberals' philosophical canon. Conservatives like A Game of Thrones because it's a no-nonsense look at real politics, just like their other favorite, 24, was a true-to-life depiction of the brave men in the alphabet soup defending America. God bless.
The last few weeks have been surreal, I’ve found myself agreeing more with magatards than any of the radlib fake left “protect muh Us state” shills online. I’ve gone full doomer at this point on burger politics. We’re probably the most woke group and this whole place probably has 50 users lol. I’m just living habbening to habbening at this point hoping for maximum burger deaths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05mJwCgoiEw Chud here, MAGA-antifa yellow vest movement against neolibs when? I'm down to read some theory if commies let me beat pigs with my trump flag
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitLiberalsSay/comments/kv3837/us_admits_to_using_uyghurs_in_xinjiang_to/ Here you go, in handy Leddit format so your normie friends can digest it.
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>>1292008 Nobody is simping for cops. People just don't care the blue lives matter crowed isn't getting fucked because they can't do basic opsec.
>>1292018 you're not welcome
>>1292024 >you're not welcome Why not
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ayy Drmpf impeached
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>>1292018 I don't want to risk my life for a billionaire war criminal pedophile
>>1292034 you literally worship billionaires
>>1292035 will they actually go through with it?
>>1292048 they already did
>>1292018 If you’re down to beat pigs to dismantle the corrupt US state so the working class can get real wages again, then sure. However antifa are just libs, not /ourguys/
>>1292021 They’re literally upset because they were trying to overthrow the US state and they came after their precious AOC. It’s not critical support from their end, just unironic retardation
>>1292043 >you literally worship billionaires He was a renegade member of the haute bourgeoisie. >>1292053 >However antifa are just libs, not /ourguys/ I am so confused now. There are commies that don't like antifa? I was aware of the anti idpol and anti third worldist stuff because its chauvinistic in its excesses.
>>1292017 >this whole place probably has 50 users lol Normally 400 last month, I think. The back & forth trаnnⅰе jаnnⅰе drama deleting boards & shiet drained the userbase.
>>1292060 >I am so confused now. There are commies that don't like antifa? I was aware of the anti idpol and anti third worldist stuff because its chauvinistic in its excesses. They’re radlibs that don’t know theory or organize properly, or even know what they’re fighting for. Whatever they don’t like they label it fascism. All burgers are retarded, I just want the US state to collapse already.
>>1292017 You know how the past few years have seen an endless horde of Trump/Bolsonaro/etc. dicksuckers who seem to have vanished overnight? And how this other horde, a liberal one, has appeared overnight? They both are largely fictional, and this is jnot a figure of speech. Wonks have realized they can exhert a disporportional impact on public opinion simply by crafting the illusion of a majority with fake online profiles. The more reactionary porkies got in on it first, and now Americans liberals and the deep State have taken their toy from them and they'll use it in a far more coordinated matter, and what's worse, old media will be a full part of that concerted effort now. Ultimately, it's actually simple. Due to the false premise of bourgeois democracy, Porky can't quite make anything he wants. He has to make it seem that a very nebulous public opinion wants or at least acquiesces to whatever horrible thing he wants to do next, because people have a naïve expectation of being in charge. While he can't just ignore that expectation without undermining his own authority, he can and does manipulate it with disturbing efficacy. At some point in the recent past, he realized that the internet offers a golden opportunity: it allows someone to create a false majority. And reactionaries do not necessarily need an actual majority in order to get its their, and arguably, they simply cannot have a majority, period, but at any rate, what matters is that appearing to be the majority is enough for the actual majority to be swindled into tolerating the whims of this non-existant majority. And the internet plus current AI make this tactic a surefire winner. Th American elite had been a bit divided thanks to Trump, so they couldn't rely on this quite yet, but you saw a few dry-runs, chiefly during the Bolivian coup. Remember how the bickering liberals and conservatives in politics and old media completely put their differences aside to tell us how Evo is a narco commie pagan whatever? And how a social media mob appeared from thin air to explain to the world how "it's not a coup, it's a democratic transition"? Consider that a preview of the foreseeable future. Now that the American elite is reunited, and with the deep State coordinating things, every single damn idea they want you to think will be forced down your throat this way. Simply put, assume literally everything you see on social media to be false at first sight, regardless of whether it's 4chan or Facebook
>>1292053 >However antifa are just libs, not /ourguys/ They're not quite executing a plan to craft dual power and take down the State, but let's not disown them. Smashies have their use. especially considering the degree to which Americans are deferent to authority.
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>>1292063 >They’re radlibs that don’t know theory or organize properly, or even know what they’re fighting for. Whatever they don’t like they label it fascism. All burgers are retarded, I just want the US state to collapse already Damn, you know its bad when commies are blackpilled too Fuck is it only libs who are excited after the last 4 years? >>1292070 >They're not quite executing a plan to craft dual power and take down the State, but let's not disown them. Smashies have their use. especially considering the degree to which Americans are deferent to authority Do smashies really hate us? I always wondered about their reaction to 2016 even though Hillary had just fucked Bernie
>>1292074 don't tell gady what the hongcucks are saying
Chairman Dore accusing Democratic Cops of America of glowing on livecast! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiUROcftCg8
>>1292063 >They’re radlibs that don’t know theory or organize properly, or even know what they’re fighting for. Whatever they don’t like they label it fascism. All burgers are retarded, I just want the US state to collapse already Damn, you know its bad when commies are blackpilled too Fuck is it only libs who are excited after the last 4 years? >>1292070 >They're not quite executing a plan to craft dual power and take down the State, but let's not disown them. Smashies have their use. especially considering the degree to which Americans are deferent to authority Do smashies really hate us? I always wondered about their reaction to 2016 even though Hillary had just fucked Bernie
>>1292061 Daily reminder to move to cia.gov for a better website that doesn’t give you an error everytimes you click shit.
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https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/01/09/the-boot-is-coming-down-hard-and-fast/ >Did you know that Biden has often boasted about being the original author of the US Patriot Act? >The first draft of the civil rights-eroding USA PATRIOT Act was magically introduced one week after the 9/11 attacks. Legislators later admitted that they hadn’t even had time to read through the hundreds of pages of the history-shaping bill before passing it the next month, yet somehow its authors were able to gather all the necessary information and write the whole entire thing in a week. >This was because most of the work had already been done. >Biden’s bill was never put to a vote, but after 9/11 then-Attorney General John Ashcroft reportedly credited his bill with the foundations of the USA PATRIOT Act. >“Civil libertarians were opposed to it,” Biden said in 2002 of his bill. “Right after 1994, and you can ask the attorney general this, because I got a call when he introduced the Patriot Act. He said, ‘Joe, I’m introducing the act basically as you wrote it in 1994.’” I was always aware of the Title IX Dear Colleague Letter, and the 1994 Crime Bill, but only after the election mudslinging started did I become aware of other Biden antics like his building the prison-industrial-complex clear back to the 1970s, and being a warhawk pressuring Reagan from the right toward greater brinksmanship with the USSR, but now during calls for Patriot Act v2.0, THIS comes out. I always assumed Biden was unremarkable, and most politicians with a career this long have about the same amount of legislative skeletons in their closet. Is Biden actually exceptionally bad?
>>1292070 They’re too idpozzed and liberal to smash. The smashies during the riots weren’t even antifa but based afroamericans. Antifa were just ‘peaceful protesting’ half the time
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OHNONONONONONONONO
>>1292060 >Renegade No he wasn’t. Wallstreet loved him up until the pandemic.
>>1292100 Who are the 10?
>>1292088 Libs just ultimately want the status quo with a happy facade and yes they’re the only ones at this point. The kind of sheep that think everything is fine and dandy in burgerland. They scapegoated trump to blame him for the contradictions of late stage capitalism Depends what kind of smashies, most are just looters or angry blacks
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>>1292090 Go dᎥlаte your hotpockets
>>1292090 The only thread with consistent activity is the one cringeposting over this website. There have to be more topics under active discussion than janny drama to get users to migrate.
>>1292075 >>1292088 We may call both smashies and Democrat blowhards radlibs, but they're not the same creature, even tho both have shown signs of Trump derangement syndrome. The former can be often idealistic due to lack of reading and decent debating, but their hearts are in the right place. They actually do want capitalism gone, even if they're clueless about it. On the other side, Democrats, "radical centrists", proud neoliberas and their ilk, at this point in time, are nothing but arrivists and apparatchiks. Completely soulless creatures who spent 4 years both twitting "#Resistance" while telling rioters to "stay in your lane" (remember that gem?) and that black protesters are being goaded by white radicals, and now it's their turn to reap the rewards and climb their hierarchy. Think Tracey, Andy "House" Ngo and the SJWs of yore. >>1292093 Fun fact: he also complained about forced busing. He was never particularly ambitious or skilled so you would be forgiven to think he was just a run-of-the-mill perma-elected Congressman, when, in fact, he's among the people bearing the most responsibility for America being the complete trainwreck it is today. Pic related. I have no doubt that some people in the backstage must have had a laugh when they saw PR flacks saying Biden would reform the prison system or the tuition industry, because he's among the people who created those problems in the first place. The only difference between him and the Clintons, McCain and other ghouls is that while most of them made a fortune selling the American people, Biden got just a beer cozy out of it.
>>1291887 >coming from a corporate slave who'll face more jail time for stealing a hamburger than your pedophile masters So different than your country I'm sure.
>>1292118 >Liz Chaney Bush republicans are the worst
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>>1292136 der boomer
>>1292136 >SP cherry-picking Good, I'm glad he once again manages to retain his retard crown.
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>>1292138 Based retard
>>1292141 I accept your concession
Chud here, does anyone know former nationalists that become socialists? Are they really accepted?
>>1292141 But they *are* pretending to care about them for the sake of widening the consumer base, how the fuck is this some "gotcha?" >pic Terminally-online lib wokescolds aren't leftist.
>>1292148 >Chud here, does anyone know former nationalists that become socialists? Are they really accepted? Lot's of the posters here fit that description. They'll even post threads like: Former chud, trying to get over my reactionary blah blah blah and people will coddle them like they're some kind of recovering drug addict. It's a very lib thing, like they pride themselves most on converting former KKK members rather than helping a homeless person that never had any hate in their heart. They love the redemption arc saga. I guess religious nuts love that shit too.
>>1292136 strawman btfo
>>1292152 Conservatives, especially after recent events, aren't fascists, yet you'll cry about how they "normalized" the sentiments leading up to the storming of the Capitol.
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They're so delusional
>>1292158 >Conservatives, especially after recent events, aren't fascists, yet you'll cry about how they "normalized" the sentiments leading up to the storming of the Capitol.
>>1292158 strawman btfo
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>>1292160 >FULL >GLOBAL >SATURATION
>>1292158 >implying they didn't happily go right along with Trump's "IT WAS RIGGED" narrative You don't have to be fash to be stupid despite how positively correlated they tend to be.
>>1292160 A Trump supporter killed himself and apart from an initial report there's been absolutely no media attention about it. But yeah it's all just delusional reactionary fearmongering
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>>1292160 >Sources tell me
OnlyFans hasn't banned Trump yet. Just saying.
>>1292173 0/10 weak bait
>>1292153 >a homeless person that never had any hate in their heart Not too many of those online
>>1292153 That's kinda cringe honestly Whats the rules on chuds hanging out with socialists, talking to them and visiting their events?
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>>1292148 Not nationalist but at any rate.
>>1292141 >Rightoids >Caring about cultures and traditions Yeah bro because having all your national culture, media and traditions replaced by amerigarbage mass produced medio is such a good thing! Stupid fucking ameridumb faggot
>>1292180 >Not too many of those online Online? Both of my examples are based on IRL. Libs I've heard talks from and homeless people I've met myself.
>>1292193 I assumed you were still moralizing about how dare /leftypol/ try to undo the damage Stormnogs did to the imageboards we always hung out on anyways to discuss mangoes or vidya or whatever
homeless people are full of hate they are homeless. there's usually some contempt that goes with it for most
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Rightoids are turning on each other Who will they blame?
>>1292196 This. We shouldn't support housing for hatefuls.
>>1292194 Because I want americans to be miserable Nothing personal tbh
>>1292194 White people are excluded from all of these things. Why should I be excited?
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>>1292194 >flashbacks of biden's stint as vp intensify
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>>1292197 how long til Jones has a heart attack?
>>1292200 White people becoming the proletatiat is a dialectical necessity for a NazBol future
>>1292196 Bullshit. The nicest people I meet are homeless people. Most people only care about their bullshit little position in society. Really hardly only real interaction I receive is from homeless people.
brave and stunning
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>>1292248 he can't keep getting away with it
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>>1292258 The fuck am I reading?
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>>1292258 >IM A PROUD CIRCUMCISED WHITE CHRISTIAN AMERICAN! >MAGA Is this satire? I'm too boomer to navigate parler
>>1292258 reminder genital mutilation causes brain damage
>>1292258 The problem with reactionaries is that the bastards just keep being born and theres no way to properly detect them.
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>>1292258 How do I not hate my parents for circumsizing me?
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>>1292263 >reminder genital mutilation causes brain damage Either way it's a smart idea to leave rigid scar tissue on an elastic part of your body that will dramatically grow in size.
When did Richard Spencer become a leftist?
>>1292194 >Biden could Key word: Won’t
>>1292294 It's not a particularly high bar, but he's smarter than most pundits. He deliberately co-opts class rhetoric and IIRC has openly admitted so.
>>1292313 Has he stepped outside since he got slugged the face?
>>1292294 He is smart enough to realize Trump is a complete retard and may do too much damage to the right wing in the US.
>>1292261 Man he couldn't even get the Chile flag.
>>1292060 >He was a renegade member of the haute bourgeoisie Fully retarded burgeroid cope. He appeals to the layabout and culturally rotten petit boug who merely wish they were the current rulers. A real estate tycoon from new York is not a "rebel" especially one who went to the Clinton's wedding. He only succeeds at convincing you idiots because years of being lazy leeches has taught you nothing of identifying con artists
I think everyone here is forgetting the last minute fuckery Trump did before the election. I expect to see semi trucks crashing into other vehicles, trains exploding, and more chaos. I wish Trump had 8 more years in office.
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>I wish Trump had 8 more years in office.
>>1292411 Lol this. I bet this was the same guy who said >no no here at bunkerchan we vooting for TROOMP 6 months ago
>>1292411 >>1292413 Trump should get another 4 years, the amount of damage he has done to America is outstanding
>>1292417 I live in America and don't want my home to be damaged further. You are either a foreign enemy of America, (hence my enemy) or you're a mentally ill American.
I wouldn't mind some last minute fuckery. What's he got to do to get a third impeachment?
>>1292421 Nothing personal fam, but it is what it is
>>1292421 Imagine being this spooked by the nationalist meme.
>>1292421 even as a patriot the thing to wish for at this point would be a peaceful breaking up, no?
Let's say Trump won, what would his 4 years would have looked like? How many countries do you think Biden will either invade or have soft coups?
>>1292421 based. anti-amerikiddies can get fucked
>>1292427 you don't need to be a nationalist to not be rooting for the destruction of your country
>>1292435 >what would his 4 years have looked like more of the same. destroy a bunch of legislation, replace it with nothing. bring on friends of his to do jobs they aren't qualified for. fail to build a wall. try to take credit for ICE when it was actually created by George W Bush.
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Seeing this locked thread >>1236428 , I want to have some words to burgers. Leftism and Rightism is the old, false way of thinking, as if political thing can be treat as a linear scale where you can say left and right, No, every political movement is class-based, and Marxists are the first to recognize that. So what happened in USA was the struggle between a movement of small capitalists and petite-bourgeoisie middle class (the so called "right") and the establishment of big transnational capitalism (the so called "left", or in board, "liberal"). At this stage of history, both movements will be very harmful proletariat working class if either of them wins outright, but if they continue to lock in fighting (a quagmire) with each other, we will have time to regroup class-consciousness and fight back. Therefore if you're a Marxist, or a socialist, the correct action is to condemn both movements and help workers recognize their own political power. If you know about Russian Marxism, there is a word called "tailism". At the stage, we must fight again "tailism" at all cost. "Left" and "Right" thinking is harmful. Hope anyone still being captured by this illusion will soon wake up and recognise the correct course of action is based on class-conscious movement and struggle. Even to /pol/fags, whether you accept to follow proletarian position or not, class-based thinking and analysis is a useful approach to politics.
>>1292421 >I live in America and don't want my home to be damaged further. Chudposter or ironic chudposting? >>1292435 Given the madness of 2017-2019 and the unbridled chaos of 2020, any attempts to predict what a second Trump term would have been like are futile. >>1292437 Alright then, honest question. What would be destroyed by Trump which wouldn't be destroyed by another oligarch? Because going down the checklist of problems with America right now, and the answer seems to be literally nothing. Fracking, check. ICE concentration camps, check. No UHC ever, check. Dismantling social security, check (and in fact, Biden is more likely to do that than Trump). Putting down any attempts at serious protest, check (again, Biden is likely to be nastier).
>>1292366 <He was a renegade member of the haute bourgeoisie >Fully retarded burgeroid cope Delete dis
>>1292294 Richard Spencer scares me because he's not blatantly retarded like most of his ilk >tfw there's probably a not retarded version of Trump out there waiting
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>>1292456 >What would be destroyed by Trump which wouldn't be destroyed by another oligarch? The Democratic Party, which definitely would've been a good thing after another humiliation of their current PMC capture. Contrariwise, their current messy divorce from Trump has a solid chance to destroy the Republicans, which I'm unsure about the consequences of what will be birthed from its carcass.
>>1292538 If anything Trump revived the democratic party. If Hillary had been a 1 term president that was impeached(cause you know the republicans would have done it). I think that would have killed them. Instead we got Trump and 4 years of "We can't talk about M4A, theres a goddamn cheeto in the whitehouse!". All the damage Trump has done has been to the republican party, but they have the courts now so they don't give to much of a shit.
>>1292538 what are the bottom two
>>1292456 >Chudposter or ironic chudposting? >tfw not wanting your country to get shittier is now /pol/
>>1292294 he's just not a complete retard which is apparently a high bar for the grift right
>>1292588 not sure about this. All the seeming dem strength is based in anti-cheeto energy. With him gone, they have to actually do something. i'll give them the first couple months of undoing trump stuff to some fanfare and doing a few things but that well's going to run dry pretty quick and they'll start wearing thin once people remember how worthless they are. Things will swing against them sooner or later. Their best hope is that the GOP eats itself alive in the wake of all this and can't get its act together for a while.
>>1292588 >If anything Trump revived the democratic party. If Hillary had been a 1 term president that was impeached(cause you know the republicans would have done it). I think that would have killed them. This is what we all thought about Obama after the first couple months dashed any vain, ahem, hope, his lofty anti-neolib campaign promises might be real. Instead, Bush Derangement Syndrome sprouted into something a million times worse with SJWs. I think there's been enough damage done by Trump/Sanders/etc. to the antipopulist establishment pseudoconsensus, that the lib-fash agenda Bidencels want to enact will actually meet stiff resistance from a resurgent left. But a Clinton victory in '16 would've landed like an atomic bomb on any incipient opposition. >>1292590 It's Always Sunny in Philidelphia, Friends, B^Uckley.
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>>1292603 Trump's not gone though and he will act as the heel for the foreseeable future. They don't need him to be president or even alive to coast off not being Trump. Either the neo-libs have been playing 69420D chess and trump is a CIA psy-op agent. Or just lucked the fuck out, but now they can use the Trump cult as justification for all kinds of shit. Thinking about it now the next step will be setting up the "Dissident right" as the fake opposition to capital. Then linking all opposition back to them.
>>1292603 It's not going to matter because pretty soon going against the bipartisan line will be tantamount to treason, and the latest drama has been setting up for a power grab. Besides, what have Republicans actually done except the tax cut for rich people? It's not difficult to be better than that garbage. Without Trump driving up turnout among the yahoos, I wouldn't be surprised if 2022 - assuming there are even elections - don't turn into a bloodbath. The Dems win when they repudiate the progressives, and they're going to do exactly that. You wouldn't see a reversal untijl 2024, and even then, who will be voting for Rethuglicans? Trump's base is old fucks, and given the accelerating death rate and lowering life expectancy, it's not looking good. So far, the deaths have hit the apolitical poor first. You have to remember that there will probably be 50+ million excess deaths in the next five years, or something close to that. You can't live in the hypernormalized narrative Trump and Obama were there to sell. I highly doubt there will be any more major elections, or they'll be turned into an even bigger farce than they already are. But, as far as having wide support, the Trumpoids are hopelessly enthralled by faggotry. They won't accept anything else, at this point, and the ruling class will keep feeding the fags to suppress anything that touches on a single real thing. It's Trumpism, or the right-leaning types going completely against the lockdown police in its own right. Trumpism sucks up that energy that would be outraged at a national lockdown and funnels it towards faggotry.
>>1292618 They already set it up so that all opposition to the regime is categorized as "Trumpian", compared to the disparate right opposition that would occasionally bomb a federal building or occupy federal land. Most of the energy opposing the regime in any way is going to be there, at least the stuff the regime sees as a larger threat. The left has problems, either because its agents are shills (think Jacobin) or because the honest ones don't really have a material basis to sustain their efforts. You do have a lot of very dissatisfied people who would be vaguely "left", but they've been herded effectively and neutralized, either by giving them a Bernie sheepdog or promoting extreme apathy.
>>1292620 >The Dems win when they repudiate the progressives, and they're going to do exactly that. Is that why Hillary won? Or Kerry? Or why they ate shit during the Obama years (except Obama himself)? Or why so many Dems (especially "moderates") got blown out down ballot this time after the party repudiated Bernie? The only reason Biden won is he was handed the gift of covid on a platter and most people just wanted Trump out. I don't see the dems doing well in 2022 without some major ongoing GOP cannibalism in the wake of Trump's demise, but that may be what happens.
>>1292626 Seeing how they barely got a majority in the houses. Despite the massive fuck-up Trump was does give some hope. Trump has G.W levels of support and the dems aren't walking in like its 2008.
>>1292084 private video
https://twitter.com/talentsofyangg1/status/1349527088018190337 >Workers Coops >Municipal investment banks >Mass Housing Programme Is Yang actually based? Like this is beyond UBI into some proper Sewer Socialism shit.
>>1292626 It wasn't like there was a secret socdem army waiting to be activated in America. Progressivism is the laughingstock that the Teabaggers and everyone else score cheap points against. If Obama tried appealing to the socdems, it would have been even worse. Sad reality is that we live in a miserablist society. The idea that anything can ever be better in any way doesn't even compute in the current logic. To even begin speaking of something other than miserablism would require, at a minimum, some new party, an actual party with a substantial base that can stick together, a base that doesn't fall for whatever fad or stupidity the ruling class offers. That would mean you would have to somehow get people who fucking hate each other to even sit in the same room. Progressives and socdems being what they are, they'd probably engage in some free range autism so that they can have their preferred echo chamber of activists and university students. Nor do you expect anyone in the rabble to get over themselves long enough to not slink back to conservatism or some faggotry like Trump. I doubt there is any viable alliance there, anyway. Most of the people who have any say so, though, have gone full steam ahead with the plunder economy and what they can extract, which is why the Obama reign was this endless cash grab from all directions.
>President-elect Joe Biden will seek a deal with Republicans on another round of Covid-19 relief, rather than attempting to ram a package through without their support, according to two people familiar with the matter. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-12/biden-aims-for-deal-with-republicans-on-covid-19-relief-package goodbye stimmy checks
>>1292626 >so many Dems (especially "moderates") got blown out down ballot this time This. Reminder literally every single M4A cosponsor kept their seat. >>1292650 Yang should run on the GOP ticket against TukTuk while Tulsi primaries Kopmalah
>>1292659 How do democrats even justify this shit anymore? Like even when the republican party loses nothing still cant get done because it has to be okayed by them anyways? How does the "resistance" and the conservatives that think biden is a trans communist globist. Square this fucking circle?
>>1292668 >How do democrats even justify this shit anymore? petit porky getting crushed is good for big porky since he's gonna pick up property and new markets for pennies on the dollar Also, the economic impact of the current collapse is mostly effecting the already poor, who aren't very valuable politically speaking. The people who were well off going into the covid economy have generally done pretty well or better than normal.
>>1292668 >How do democrats even justify this shit anymore? Same way they did in Clinton's 1st halfterm, and again in Obama's 1st halfterm: By simply ignoring reality and responding to any criticism with the need to "compromise with" something that no longer exists, deflecting attention from their own party.
>>1292476 Now we can add a 3rd dimension to this diagram for being impeached twice.
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>>1292692 What are the chances Biden impeaches him a 3rd time after he's out of office?
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fuck you, stupid individualists. Left unity might be possible if you could take some criticism without blowing your head off. I don't even have a problem with LGB
>>1292706 What even is the appeal of anarchism if you can't even do whatever you want? It just baffles me.
>>1292715 Some of us want to do whatever we want to an extent
>>1292706 >>1292715 Reject anarchism, embrace National Bolshevism
>>1292706 >anarchists
>>1292294 He's the typical too smart by half political actor.
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>>1292706 >expecting better than reddit >from ⅾᎥѕcоrd
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>>1292865 >Her father is now in hell Good
>>1292865 Lol it would be hilarious if a bunch of Q believers ended up in Gitmo. "WTF This was supposed to happen to obama?"
>>1292865 Based pawg Meghan.
Stimmy checks officially reduced to $1400 likely will get cut down again in congress
>>1292865 The handful of times Alex Jones talks sense are gold.
>>1292706 >group think is individualism I don’t get it
>>1293004 We ain't getting shit from Sleepy Joe. Nothing coming out of the talking heads means anything at this point. They're just waiting out the rest of Trump's term, then you'll see just how little anyone cares about these stupid narratives.
>>1293020 I'm anticipating same as last time in '08: Diminishing trickle of breadcrumbs for the masses, propped up thinly in front of piles of cash to bail out the biggest porkies.
>>1293030 That already happened next year. They need it to be even worse, and that's where you're going to see the end of neoliberalism and the start of something much worse. You're not going to be able to normalize millions of excess deaths, and they're already hitting with expectations that they will accelerate.
>>1293004 >Stimmy checks officially reduced to $1400 Really? Sauce? Schumer was literally saying "we ran on giving people 2k and we're going to do that". Feels bad.
>>1292591 The only way for America to improve is for capitalism to end as soon as possible. While that doesn't happen, it will be all downhill. >>1292659 Let me just point out that using language like "trying to ram through legislation" is deliberate to disguise the fact that they can pass whatever the fuck they want. I also echo what >>1292684 said. >>1292700 Zero. He wants to "heal the nation" and "be a uniter, not a divider".
based retard isn't even out and shit's already so boring
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https://www.congress.gov/117/bills/hjres14/BILLS-117hjres14ih.xml Article — >Section 1. “The President and Vice President shall be elected by the people of the several States and the district constituting the seat of government of the United States. >Section 2. “The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most populous branch of the legislature of the State; although Congress may establish uniform age qualifications. >Section 3. “Each elector shall cast a single vote for two persons who have consented to the joining of their names as candidates for President and Vice President. No elector shall be prohibited from casting a vote for a candidate for President or Vice President because either candidate, or both, are inhabitants of the same State as the elector. >Section 4. “The pair of candidates having the greatest number of votes for President and Vice President shall be elected. >Section 5. “The times, places, and manner of holding such elections and entitlement to inclusion on the ballot shall be determined by Congress. >Section 6. “The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death or any other disqualification of any candidate for President or Vice President before the day on which the President-elect or Vice President-elect has been chosen; and for the case of a tie in any election. >Section 7. “This article shall take effect one year after the first day of January following ratification.”.
>>1293172 No way this gets through. Republicans would never hold the Presidency again.
>>1293172 eh why are there still clauses about electors? what's the point if you're going by popular vote
>>1293178 >eugene on cue with right wing talking points (surprise) They'd win again in 4-8 years, 12 at the most. They'd just have to adapt to the new electorate. iow, they'd have to change some things up to appeal to some people their current iteration doesn't appeal to. In a closed 2-party system the 2 parties always figure out how to split the electorate and revert to the mean. Changing the EC doesn't mean R's never win again. It just means they'd have to change. It still won't get pass though.
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>>1293178 Aint it a bitch that our government is basically under permanent hostage because a party that has barely any support just knows how to play the meta really well?
>>1293229 I don't know who this is
>>1293202 You'd still have electors presumably. You'd just force states to honor the national vote. Anyway this isn't really about the EC (despite the wording at the top, which is not part of the bill). This is about Congress saying it will take over state election laws concerning the federal election for President, i.e. the bullshit Trump and Republicans have been whining about all this year. It would make it federally guaranteed that you can't do elector fuckery, and they're doing this because said attempts at elector fuckery caused an attempted coup. But really, it's about liberals throwing their weight around. This is dead in Republican-held state houses, unless they make good on that "Trump is seditious and all seditious Republicans must be purged from political office" thing they've been pushing lately.
>>1293224 Republicans are nowhere near winning an outright popular vote, especially with young people overwhelmingly hating Republicans. I'd be surprised if Republicans would win any presidential elections moving forward. Reaganism is too thoroughly despised and nothing the Republicans can ever offer will placate the MAGAtards. Of course, none of it will matter, because there will only be the party of power. >>1293230 Democrats go out of their way to fail, by refusing to demonstrate even a bare minimum of competence, and intentionally feeding their base failure in order to beat them into submission. They're a total joke of a party, and yet they still win elections somehow. (And no, Democrats wouldn't win if they went socdem, I mean the Democrats simply have no killer instinct. No other fucking party in the world would advocate for bipartisanship, and if this political process weren't a farce, Democrats would nuke the fucking filibuster right away and force Republicans to suck it for two years. Unfortunately, if they were to do that, it would be to support their bullshit causes rather than anything half-decent.) I doubt the Tea Party or Trump would happen if the political process weren't a farce, if Obama weren't especially spineless, if he weren't basically Trump before Trump.
>>1293229 wait, did he die?
>>1292471 Richard Spencer should be elected President in 2024. Fuck the DNC and the PMC.
Does anyone else see fascism get really popular by 2023 or 2024, while the Dems fuck up badly enough for Richard Spencer to be supported by both working class whites, blacks and latinos?
Imagine Richard Spencer as President with Tulsi Gabbard as VP.
>>1293178 It wouldn't be a problem in case both parties were operating as one anyway. >>1293230 Cut this claptrap about the GOP holding America hostage. American media will play this good-cop-bad-cop routine nonstop now. Both of them are holding you hostage, the only difference between them is that one of them willing to shoot the other rather than sharing the ransom.
>>1293346 Considering a large part of the country would be in favor of a military coup, either for Trumpism or the liberal order, yeah. Faggotry like Spencer isn't going anywhere though. New fascism is multiracial and doesn't care about race-autism. It's going to be openly eugenicist, of the new kind, and it will be advanced as a program of action that will get things done rather than Trump's clown show. Trumpism, that's going to die. It was a whole lot of old fucks that were the mighty trunk of Trump's movement, and old fucks are, well, old. He wouldn't be anywhere if he weren't coasting on the thing Reagan and Limbaugh built. The /pol and New Right faction that would be favorable to Trump is really, really small, that latched on to the large number of Reaganite boomers and tried to repurpose them. Even the Trump mainstream thinks /pol are a bunch of fags - useful fags, maybe, but still fags. >>1293354 They do have a genuine rivalry, but none of these people are going to do a single good thing. We're heading either towards fascism or something like civil war, and 2020 made it clear that this is inevitable before 2024. I imagine they'll make one more go, maybe for this year, of pretending there's still a country, while accumulating everything needed for Nazification in the background. They're pushing hard to mainstream eugenics again, to reach a point where people are so beaten down that eugenics can appear in the open, louder and prouder, and this time they will stop at nothing to impose their program. That's why the faggotry has been intensified to 11. They need a lot to get to their real objective, to build up the base for an openly fascist country. The last gasp of Trumpism will be to suck up all discontent, associate it with Trumpian faggotry, and prevent any actual movement against the regime from forming. Fortunately for the regime, there is no shortage of scum, common scum, petty-managerial scum, and so on, who will carry water for Trumpism and pure faggotry-for-the-sake-of-faggotry. If we had a chance, there would have been a lot more people ready to just fucking root them all out. The resistance is full of terrified, spineless jelly-men who can't even bring themselves to find an argument against their enemies except "it's mean and it makes me feel bad". MAGA heads should have been found on spikes, that would shut the faggots up real quick.
>>1293354 >Cut this claptrap about the GOP holding America hostage. American media will play this good-cop-bad-cop routine nonstop now. Both of them are holding you hostage, the only difference between them is that one of them willing to shoot the other rather than sharing the ransom Are commies both sides-ers?
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>>1293383 I'm not. I don't go for false equivocation. None of these people are your friends, and the political process by now is entirely theater. They pretty obviously rigged the last election, and probably the last major one before it. People here, the narrative-spinners, don't actually talk about what Obama did, which was quite a lot. Both sides-ers are just hypernormalizers that believe nothing ever changes until a thought leader declares it so, and that thought leader creates a new mystification to hide the very real accumulation of power. It's getting ridiculous to pretend history is ended, and the usual claptrap. A lot of the left are too cowardly to face just how fucked they are at the moment, and they really are fucked perhaps worse than ever. They'd rather believe in hypernormalization than accept that their theory is probably wrong from the foundation, that they're stuck on workerism when the working class is no longer a revolutionary subject (if it ever was one, which I highly doubt). They lost any sense of why anyone would want to be a communist, and seem to think that the people need to be led like sheep by their totes awesome revolutionary dogma. If anything at all is going to happen, it would have to start from entirely new foundations, and probably looking at political economy is missing the point entirely. At most, economics is an explanatory tool to understand why we are in this situation, explains the ruling class actions to an extent, but because the economic thinking is entirely backwards, obsessed with exchange-value and money-tokens instead of any practical concern or utility of the oligarchs' possessions, the analysis has completely faltered. The reality is that the rich oligarchs in the 21st century can print themselves unlimited money, within certain constraints, because everyone else will be made to pay for it and the systems of control have a hammerlock on human behavior. These systems could be subverted, maybe even overthrown or at least shattered, but half the time the "revolutionaries" carry water for those systems of control.
>>1293387 Change your name back
>>1293413 Eugenics are unequivocally a net positive. Sorry
>>1293431 Americans are to be euthanized Sorry
>>1293387 I can trace it to a founding father The confederacy is still gay
The New Wave of Communism: Critical Theory | America Uncovered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYcIuZG21dw (temperature check: they still think we are liberals touting cultural marxism since the 3rd international)
>>1292603 >they have to actually do something Yeah, Austerity, strengthening the security state, and ramping up foreign conflicts. Biden is going to be Bush 2.0. The next four years are going to be worse than the previous four.
>>1292706 No, he's playing dead. He's having his friends post fake eulogies and articles claiming he died of Covid on social media. Of course, being an idiot, he's retweeting them on twitter.
>>1293400 >>1293382 >>1293275 Your Analysis is as accurate as always, Eugene. I’ll admit that when I first heard you say that their would be big “reforms” passed in late January and February by the Biden administration, I was a little skeptical of what that would be (beyond all the Covid-19 hysteria they have been promoting since last March). However, since the absurd Capitol building chimpout by the MAGAtards which I didn’t see coming (On top of mistakenly believing Trump would be re-elected, I underestimated how brainwashed his supporters were by the Q faggotry, and thus thought that they wouldn’t do anything stupid on the 6th, LOL), Biden and the Bipartisan Establishment have been promoting Domestic Terrorism legislation to crush any dissent from both sides of the aisle, thus proving your gut feeling. I’m even starting to get the feeling that your forecast of 50 million excess deaths in 5 years may be less wrong then I originally thought, due to the fact that the transition to the 4th Industrial Revolution/“Great reset” accelerated by the Covid-19 “crisis” will lead to mass unemployment and resultant excess deaths before the UBI is implemented, with the only difference being I still believe that the number will be significantly less then 50 million (The 5-10 million ballpark seems more realistic). I also appreciate your critique of the utter uselessness of the Modern “Left”, which I believe lines up closely with the theory of Over-Socialization articulated in “Industrial Society and its Future”. My only major disagreement with your Analysis is my opinion that the 4th Industrial Revolution will successfully eliminate most of the Proles, who will be pacified by a UBI and slowly die-out due to State-sponsored Sterilization and Degeneracy, while you seem to believe that the 4th Industrial Revolution will fail, the related UBI will never happen, and Slavery of the lowest classes will be De-facto reestablished. I guess time will tell which one of us is right.
>>1293439 >(temperature check: they still think we are liberals touting cultural marxism since the 3rd international) Chud here. What the hell is the deal with cultural marxism? Is it real? For its existence: >noted turn towards culture and institutions in advanced capitalist states because the former created false consciousness and the latter sapped revolutionary sentiment. Examples in gramsci and lukasz >60s onwards points to need for new democratic revolution instead of socialist one >race is at the forefront of modern left, is creating splits >CPUSA went full democrat shill Against: >marxism never formally replaced the proletariat as the revolutionary subject >culture war created splits on the left >parties like CPGB ML supported brexit >2009 maoism third worldism poorly received
>>1293383 That implies they are separate sides in the first place. America's rulers have been historically very capable of keeping their shared class interests above internal disputes. And right now they're more united than ever, having mended the brief rupture Trump represented. This reminds me, I should answer this other guy. >>1292060 >He was a renegade member of the haute bourgeoisie. You're aware of the frame of class struggle, but you're not quite seeing through that frame here. Trump was decidedly not the most popular porky in the sty, tho it it was for his personal reputation, not for going against their class interests. Granted, he talked about bringing industry back, and that would be great. But given he lies more often than draws breath and he has done nothing in the past towards that end, it was unlikelyy, to say the least, that he was serious about it. So the overblown trade wars are pretty much all he did in that sense. Fun fact: when deciding which American goods to tax or ban in retaliation, China goes to the trouble of prioritizing goods coming from states which voted for Trump.
>>1293486 “Cultural Marxism” is a good thing if you spend some time reading it, or rather more nuanced than /pol/ claims. Adorno basically saw culture (including “muh traditional European culture”) being sapped and commodified by Capitalism, a good example would be beer commercials. You’ll probably see in your typical beer ad, an emphasis on groups of young people smiling and partying with each other. This is Capitalism commodifying the very real feeling of isolation and loneliness, and using it to make profit. Now, as for the stereotype of “cultural Marxism”—that is, that “communists” are working as part of a conspiracy to spread porn to sap the “spiritual morale” of the west, this is bullshit that’s been around for decades. CPUSA members were accused of each carrying “Lenin’s rules for revolution” a mythical pamphlet that newspapers claimed was written by Lenin and advocated spreading “degenerate music” and porn. From a sheer practical perspective, any conspiracy capable of shaping culture that much should logically be already in charge and thus makes “degeneration towards revolution” a pointless strategy. Secondly, every single revolution was born out of mass actions of the people, not “conspiracies”; why would it be some coup by a conspiracy in our case?
>>1293441 I tried to warn people Biden would be far worse, I really did, but alas. Even here, where people are consciously aware that MSM attacked Trump for bullshit like TwO sCoOpS instead of anything actually worthwhile, some still refused to vote for him because orange man bad. I even said that, despite all histrionics to the contrary, Trump was actually the Reichstag fire, not the Führer. Fast-forward a few weeks and behold, he metaphorically, and almost literally, set fire to the Burgerstag.
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>>1293500 same reason why >real communism has never been tried just as you see people being used by "capitalists", you too are being used by an ideology. For fucks sake: how many people here you think that voted for Biden? Fucking enablers.
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Don't respect the left Respect only the Dissident Right
>>1293510 link, nigga, link
>>1293486 Anybody with a 70+ IQ should know that “Cultural Marxism” is a absolutely retarded concept because in reality, promoting Sexual Degeneracy (ie. Homosexuality, Transgenderism, Pornography, etc.) destroys Class consciousness and makes any Revolution nearly impossible. This is due to the fact that it leads to phony “Culture wars” that divide the proles, thus creating a society that is so obsessed with either promoting or opposing (this opposition usually fades quickly due to Corporations realizing how beneficial the latest Degenerate fad is to their agenda, as seen with Gay marriage in the past and Transgenderism today) Degeneracy that nothing else ever enters the Political arena. Their is a reason that the USSR, Maoist China, and any other Socialist state outlawed that shit, LOL.
>>1293503 Trump would've led to the collapse of America but now we have the competent technocratic bourgeois faction in power who will crackdown on dissidents. The left is as powerless as even and the best we'll get is more outbursts like the Floyd rebellions but will be directionless outbursts or collective rage. Trump is more of an accelerator for the collapse of Rome and Biden's team will do anything to repair America's broken image to justify new imperialist adventures. Still I doubt Trump would be better especially when it comes to climate so one positive is that we suffer longer now. Now they will use the recent spergout to strengthen bourgeois institutions to a level not seen before. The burger left is irrelevant but we have momentum, we should not let it fizzle out but rather capitalize on current economic and cultural anxieties that will only intensify in the coming years.
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>>1293172 IANAL, but this doesn't seem to distinguish between votes by electors, and votes by citizens. Weren't most of the people who wrote this lawyers? >>1293383 >dems & gop >not just two "sides" of the same rigged game How many layers of naivete are you on? >>1293486 It was a real(ly retarded) thing, but it almost immediately got blown WAY out of proportion in both scope and importance and by Nazis, and then after the Nazis its legendary status continued growing. It does actually hold significant early blame for what would later become SJWs, but only after having merged with tendencies and input from sources as strange and varied as the American CIA's CCF. Picrel is a good rundown, intro available here: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/07/22/dnbo-j22.html
>>1293517 Based
>Trump promotes fascism leftypol: <durr drumpf isn’t a fascist he’s just a neolib!! why do they do this
>>1293522 >biden promotes fascism fedditwatter: >durr biden isn't a fascist he's just a progressive!! why do they do this
>>1293517 <literally Jewish banker stormed the capitol for trump Dongnoticer >leftist are the real jew puppets!
>>1293507 You responding to my post? If so I don’t quite follow?
>>1293522 Leftists love playing word games of semantics and phraseology, but to answer your question in good faith I'd say Trump is more of a pseudo-fascist than anything. He appeals to a mass base of fascist neo-reaction which plays an important role in building a nationalist street movement that bridges the gap between the petty-bourgeois and white proletariat/lumpenproletariat. There's another thing I've been thinking about Trump and his supports. He has specifically coalesced the forces of anti-rationalism and anti-intellectualism which plays an embryonic role in the rise of a competent/effective fascist movement. Trump has only laid the groundwork not the final modus operandi of fascist revolution.
>>1293543 To put it a bit more simply: Trump is not a fascist, but many of his followers are.
>>1293522 Cause to many leftist play into the game of "we can't just throw words around willy nilly" and also trumps a fucking incompetent clown. So it doesn't "feel" like fascism. But he is because fascism is a far right incoherent ideology built around a personality/death cult made of the dying petty bourg. Just cause trumps the McDonald's of fascism doesn't mean him and his dumbass followers aren't. Also most fash are neo-libs. Especially American fash. You can be fash without being a neo-lib and you can be a neo-lib without being a fash and vice versa, vice versa. Ect ect
>>1293552 p much. America is pretty much a fascist nation in everything but name. Just a settler colonial empire built on slavery and violent expansionism, the Nazis had a hardon for how America treated it's poor, black, minorities and all others deemed undesirable. It makes sense as to why there is a mass base of reaction to draw from when the history of the country itself is drenched in baggage or mythological foundations on bourgeois moralism.
>>1293561 >we can't just throw words around willy nilly Yeah. Just as an example, look at somebody that (unlike Trump) knowingly worked hand-in-glove with neonazis for decades, like Ron Paul. Even in his case, I don't think I'd actually call him a fascist, but rather still just an ally of fascists. And I say that as an anarchist that classifies LOLbertarianism in all its forms as an impractical mirage that inevitably degrades into fascism when attempts are made at implementing it
>>1293515 A good succint explanation. Tho I'm afraid it would be lost on the people who believe in cultural Marxism in the first place, because in their minds, other countries want to destroy America out of jealousy or something. >>1293517 That ain't a banker, he's another lumpenbourgeois. >Unlawful entry is a misdemeanor charge that carries a maximum penalty of up to 180 days in jail and fines of up to $1,000 breh >One officer, a veteran of the department, said he was called the N-word upwards of 15 times, while another described being beaten by insurgents, some of whom were wielding Blue Lives Matter flags. >Both of the officers said they encountered out law enforcement officials in the mob, who had flown from all over the country to join in with the rioting. >‘[One guy] pulled out his badge and he said, “We’re doing this for you.” Another guy had his badge. So I was like, “Well, you gotta be kidding”,’ one of the officers said. BREH And from the sidebar: >Strictly's HRVY, 21, shows off his impressive new mansion he originally designed on Minecraft as he gives fans a tour of the building site BREH Look at this motherfucking hard worker. A couple of years as an assembly-line-made artist and he made more than his average countryman will make in their lives. Now that's optimum resource allocation, thanks capitalism.
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>>1293576 >originally designed on Minecraft I think the clownworld barrier was just broken, again. "X, in Minecraft of course" is now meaningless.
>>1293563 Hey Radlib, many other non white empires were colonial that were built on the backs of slaves. Are you that stupid that you're going to deny that Africa still has slaves? The Middle East still has slaves.
>>1293561 "Fash" is the online anarkiddie/tankie version of the Radlib's "Muh Racist". > Fash are Neolibs In that case, word's don't mean anything anymore, and you like saying "Fa Fa Fash" just to sound edgy and different.
>>1293162 I feel it, was a fun ride while it lasted. May total us collapse bring us some more comfy riots
>>1293518 Accelerating more neoliberalism and austerity will collapse technocrats completely.
I'd be amazed if Biden lives until 2024.
When Kamala becomes President, will that be the breaking point to break normies away from Idpol?
>>1293606 > Fash are Neolibs Other poster didn't say that, but instead: <You can be fash without being a neo-lib and you can be a neo-lib without being a fash and vice versa, vice versa. Ect ect Which is quite accurate. Looking the earliest serious sponsors of neoliberalism, from Franco to Pinochet, fascists are predominant. Not to mention fascist-adjacent figures such as Salazar and Lee Kuan Yew. This isn't, again, to say all fascists were neolib, as e.g., Hitler and Mussolini were mostly indifferent (though they arguably provided some inspiration, inventing privatization, for instance). Only by the 1970s did neoliberalism gain serious institutional traction outside the fascist sphere.
If Trump's term was the "Reichstag fire", is Biden's term the "Mad King George"? Or will Biden be more like Dick Cheney if he was President? I see both Biden and Kamala as being like Dick Cheney.
>>1292421 Cuck. I live in america and am down to burn alongside the hellscape of this country
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>>1293611 No later than 2022, Biden will resign/suffer a mysterious accident/be revealed to have lost all brain function since 2018.
>>1293604 In no part of my post did I deny that other "non-white" empires had slaves. Fucking African kings sold black people to Europeans. I swear even discussing settler-colonialism on this board brings out the worst responses. Frankly, I blame the Sakaifags and their bad faith posting >The Middle East still has slaves. The Saudis yeah and who is their greatest ally USA a settler colonial empire built by slaves, indentured servants, and proles
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>>1293611 >MFW Biden serves a full eight years.
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>>1293619 Other poster is right that your post stank of lazy Sakai-ish MTW brainrot. Slavery was basically universal everywhere on the planet for all of history until just a century or two ago. A better charge to lay against 'murca (one that is actually pretty much unique in the modern era) is almost totally genociding an entire country being colonized, instead of mutt'ing it up with the natives or shipping them somewhere else. >>1293620 Nah, Kopmala needs the door open for a full 10 years. Plus it's her modus operandi after an entire career of failing upward from nobody to president in bed. >>1293622 LARP harder
Are any of you interested in working for the CIA, FBI, NSA, DIA, INR, DIA, NRO, IB and the ONSI?
>>1293626 Sure, but I'm not taking the damn vaccine :^)
>>1293626 I would like to apply to NSA plz. Pls track me down via my ip and job interview me at my location during the time of 2am-4am
>>1293623 How horrible do you think Kamala will be? I could see her pushing blacks towards white supremacy.
>>1293619 Because settler colonialism is a self-contradicting analysis, retard
>>1293626 >not being a duodecuple-agent "working" "for" all of them at once SMH TBH fam
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>>1293629 I think Biden/Kamala will have zero noticeable influence on the presidency, merely being pliable utensils for the smoke-filled room of DNC oligarchs who installed The Blob. That said, there is a possibility some horrible failure of PR/personality will manifest itself
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>>1293634 Where do the former GOP members come into play?
>>1293637 They'll go back to "opposing" big government and spending, with the democrats saying this they're why there's no stimulus funds
>>1293640 The globalist elite and "impoverished" welfare abusing leeches can both suck it
>>1293642 you should shoot yourself
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>>1293640 S33the
>>1293642 You.will be joining the impoverished leeches soon, dont worry
>>1293631 How so? Genuinely curious to hear your explanation. >>1293623 >Sakai-ish MTW brainrot Well I think that there is potential for revolution in the developed world and even the white working class so I definitely wouldn't consider myself a Maoist-Third-Worldist. Pretty much agree other than that tho. It's why I think America/U$A is more privy to turn fascist. A nation built on genocide and conquest is like a fascists wet dream.
>>1293645 >Muh smol bourg!!! Lol cope >>1293647 Because settlers are not the only ones who benefit from imperialism, specially in America
>>1293552 >Trump is not a fascist, but many of his followers are. We dont have the stats for that (or do we?). Plenty that voted for Obama in the rust belt states voted mostly for Trump so those were perhaps apolitical normies. The trump supporters appear to be: Fascists - they consider Trump to be someone to usher "order" in the USA and save them from woke twitter and "gommies" that have been protecting and upholding people's work rights, privileges (weekends, annual leave, sick leave etc), welfare and the plan for universal healthcare. Conservatives - Trump perceived to be someone to be a Regan 2.0 with trickle down 2.0 (unless there have been prior to him being elected President) and proponent of "Free Trade" (the common understanding of Free Trade has been if one has paid their dues they ought to operate their business, sell goods and render services and "cutting red tape" vis a vis deregulation which would "free" the market for another "golden age" or post WW2 rally). Nationalists - Trump as a harbinger 'murkia first, govern in the national interest and not in the interests of the oligarchy and multinationals as well as the Monroe Doctrine (end and avoidance of foreign interventions). Also for ending mass immigration as its an oligarch plan. White Supremacists - Trump viewed as an American Hitler to preserve the Huwhite Anglo Saxon Protestant race (as a sidenote Trump is a Protestant) and boost the birth rate as mitigation from mass immigration; "race war" crowd. Conspiracy theorists - Regard Trump as a dissident and apostate of the deep state and oligarchs set to stop and defeat them for the sake of humanity. Apolitical normies - Know Trump as the President that would bring back jobs, renegotiate NAFTA and other Free Trade Agreements (no tariffs, deregulations of import laws, concessions to consumer protection, health and safety and visa agreements) and entertainment value. They mostly voted for Obama in 2012.
>>1293610 The great thing about Trump was that he was accelerating towards collapse while bypassing (most of) neoliberal hell. >>1293612 I won't assume such a breaking point exists. >>1293615 I don't think there's quite a parallel here. Biden represents American porkies ruling collectively in a more class-conscious manner than ever. Class dictatorship by committee.
>>1293623 >instead of mutt'ing it up with the natives Yes. Make love.
>>1293653 Yeah, even among people who are "Trump supporters" rather than just Trump voting (R) straight ticket box checkers, there's obviously quite a range. Though that's to be expected in a Choice A vs. Choice B Duverger's Law hellscape like ours where everyone's funneled in that direction to start, especially for incumbents like Trump seeking a 2nd term. I'm sure I'm not alone on this board in falling into your 6th category for the opposite of apoliticality. I went Green this year since I felt he'd served his purpose of wrecking shit sufficiently.
>>1293623 >Slavery was basically universal everywhere on the planet for all of history until just a century or two ago. Not really. It's older than civilization, but it's not universal. The best example is Medieval Europe, where happenstance eliminated it from most of the continent. This led to a crucial difference between the American and European strains of liberalism born in the late 18th century. In America, slavery, and white supremacism in general, were part and parcel of this new order by design, whereas Europe had the luxury of foregoing that "debate". It was easy for the rising European bourgeoisie to ban slavery and pat themselves on the back for it because it was hardly even there in the first place. Other feudal-like countries in Asia were similar. Slavery still existed but was extremely limited to personal servants of the elites, it wasn't responsible for the economic production. Incans also didn't have slaves. POST MADE BY INCABOL GANG
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>>1293626 Trick question. Every American already cooperates with those whether they know it or not.
>>1293642 >welfare abusing leeches muh welfare kween
>>1293668 >Medieval Europe Slavery continued to exist throughout most of continental Europe into the 1400s alongside serfdom, and persisted in a few countries like Spain long after. Agreed on the 1800s though >white supremacism in general More an effect of Europe's colonies being multiracial in the first place >Slavery still existed but was extremely limited This observation is a bit muddled, when one remembers that even in classical societies that leaned exceptionally heavily on slavery (e.g.: Egypt, Rome, India, Aztecs) they never amounted to more than 10%-20% of the population. >Incans also didn't have slaves. POST MADE BY INCABOL GANG Sorta' trueish. Depends on where you think corvée falls on the slavery/serfdom/conscription spectrum.
>>1293668 >There weren't any slaves in Europe The absolute state of Sakaifags
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>>1293678 Don't tell him
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And perhaps a bit starker
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>>1291190 based
>>1293692 Honeslty the worst part about this is just how fucking retarded it makes poltards seem. We are talking about 4chan here, who years ago used to boast about being capable of wrecking havock on any site, who knew about every and all conspiracies and so on Yet they are literally too retarded to not see the obvious false flag here Yes, they want you to believe they are commies, so that you oppose communism and therefore they can stay in power I would honestly give porky a pat in the back for coming up with these schemes, but the truth is it's just blatantly obvious how easy it is to make braindead americans fall for this, so it's as easy as taking candy from kids
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>>1293700 every election season dems/repubs put on their stalin/hitler cosplay to make the election seem as important as ww2. we live in a clown world and I want off this ride
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>>1293700 I'm afraid the boomerfication via /r/T_D is at epidemic levels, it wouldn't surprise me if there were already apocalyptic Baptist-Zionist neocon maymays flooding half/pol/.
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>>1293704 If Trump won we'd be living in a nightmare right now so stfu
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>>1293713 Retard
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Baste neoliberal
>>1293715 >bourgeois politician 1 winning over bourgeois politician 2 would be a nightmare
>>1293719 That's a Groyper.
>>1293724 A broken clock is right twice a day
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>>1293729 Baked Alaska is dead 1987-2021 R.I.P
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Simple as
>>1293629 Brain aids
>>1293768 werent u banned
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>>1293832 baked alaska status: disrespected iq: 87
>>1293832 >No country involved in WW2 did specially true for Red Army CHADS raping german bitches in Berlin
>>1293832 What the fuck even is this shit trying to say?
>>1293715 Name 1 thing that would be different.
Chud here. Need commie input using your obscure theories. >is hate what really divides left and right? Or is there an overlap between marxist materialist and right wing realist assessment of power, not morality, guiding politics? >how can the right be petty bourg and the left be PMC? What's the significant difference that lends one to fascism and the other to liberalism, despite both being bought off by the ruling class? >is the left contradicting itself when it launched from advanced theories of settler colonial imperialist state, which suggests the state is irredeemable and everything outside of it is endemically reactionary, to 'defend democracy'?
>>1294103 >is hate what really divides left and right? No, the division between left and right is purely whether you support nationalization (socialism) or privatization (capitalism). >how can the right be petty bourg and the left be PMC? I assume the professional managerial class owns about as much means of production as the petty bourg do, meaning they're both firmly in the "middle class" category, which makes them aspiring bourgeoisie and therefore right-wing by default. I'm not an expert though. >>is the left contradicting itself when it launched from advanced theories of settler colonial imperialist state, which suggests the state is irredeemable and everything outside of it is endemically reactionary, to 'defend democracy'? Nobody who "defends democracy" (defends the capitalist system) in the USA is a leftist, every true leftist wants the country to fall apart because it has been the enemy of socialism since the cold war. It could have been redeemed before, but it is certainly irredeemable by now.
>>1293439 I expected nothing less from the dude hosting China uncensored. Heck they had a atrocious video about history of communism after all.
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>>1294111 >tfw dems pretend to be leftists to own da trumptards
>>1292187 Damn I didn't realize how based he was late in life
>>1294111 >nationalization (socialism) C'mon, anon, you know state socialism isn't the only kind. The univerally agreed on definition of socialism is worker control of the MoP, vs. rentier absentee control of the MoP. There are a variety of proposed ways that can be achieved, nationalization is only one such proposal.
>>1292148 Ex-chud here. I found my own group of socialist rejects who accept me >>1292153 >people can't change Undialectical but the blog posts of former /pol/tards are cringe tbh. LURK MOAR Inb4 mad leftists
>>1293517 Assnoticer btfod forever
>>1294103 >>1294103 >>is hate what really divides left and right? Or is there an overlap between marxist materialist and right wing realist assessment of power, not morality, guiding politics? The sort of politicization of hate wasn't really done until the fascists showed up in the interwar period. Traditional rightists relied on other methods of control revolving around traditional class societies, the fascists were pioneers in looking for new tools of societal control. The right/left distinction is pretty abstract, its origins are from literally just which side of Louis XVI the royalists and revolutionaries sat in the prelude to the French Revolution. Some would argue that the right-left distinction converges on issues of capitalism but I don't think this is true as of yet. Rightism is about wanting to preserve existing social relations, not only means of production as that economist theory says. >how can the right be petty bourg and the left be PMC? What's the significant difference that lends one to fascism and the other to liberalism, despite both being bought off by the ruling class? Both "petit bourgeiousie" and "PMC" are troublesome terms. PMC being a socdem invention scoffed at by leftcoms and abused by """right populists""" (forgot to mention earlier, right populism is basically an oxymoron in a class society). As for petit bouj, the artisans that made up the class that Marx described occupied a different sphere of society and were under different societal pressures (but in some ways analogous) from the current small business owners of current year. For some reasons (connotations of culture war shit that have supplanted class politics), this pmc and petty bouj divide gets more traction, and not the also very real camps of national bouj vs international bouj. The connection you might be missing is the compatibility of liberal ideology and fascist ideology, the interface is surprisingly large. >is the left contradicting itself when it launched from advanced theories of settler colonial imperialist state, which suggests the state is irredeemable and everything outside of it is endemically reactionary, to 'defend democracy'? I'm not sure who outside of DNC affiliates and shitlibs shills who went off about muh defending democracies. At this point the Democraps are at best a centrist party and can not be considered "left" in any meaningful capacity. Settler-colonial theory is still pretty fringe, imperalism isn't really accepted by many a succdem. Anarchists are the only faction in favor of dismantling the state immediately and in of itself
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What are /leftypol/'s thoughts on Bob Chipman AKA Moviebob?
>>1294179 >Ex-chud here. I found my own group of socialist rejects who accept me That's what I feared about abandoning chudness. You just end up a shunned 'brocialist' for not being liberal enough. And by that I dont mean you're an anti gay tankie or something
>>1294234 getting some sexual vibes from this tweet tbh, i could see the next one being about force castrating fascists then forcing them into dresses. you can't be a leftist and help or support law enforcement though, that's a deluded lib thing. i learned yesterday that the house un-american activities committee was created to oppress fascists but look how that worked out.
>>1294234 imo it is okay to be sadistic against porky
>>1294234 I've noticed the most pathetic groveling soy libs conceivable like him and Arthur Chu coming out of the woodwork to call for Rainbow Terror
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>>1294229 >PMC being a socdem invention scoffed at by leftcoms and abused by """right populists""" The concept of the PMC is less about actual class relations to capital, and more about the ascendancy of credentialism itself. Basically, the PMC are (regardless of their class position) unified by pretentious adherence to certifications, systems, supposed expertise, etc., which imposes on them the publicly projected social norms of capitalists, without necessarily conferring any of the benefits of actually being a capitalist. This is orthogonal to the petite-bourg, whose class position actually does put them somewhat closer to proper capitalists that live entirely off capital gains, thus lending some material credibility to their class traitorous bootlicking of capitalists. >>1294234 Total yahoo, LOLcow of The Escapist from day 1, picrel basically sums up him and all his ilk.
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>>1294237 >>1294240 Gonna play devil's advocate and say he's objectively correct to a degree The Rainbow Terror stuff is transparent yeah but aside from that do you really think we can continue living with these people, especially after what's happened recently? Half of the people rushing to dunk on him in the QTs are part of the Scott Greer/Nick Fuentes fanboy clique and those two apart from ideology are really no different than Bob is Even then Bob is sorta endearing in his cluelessness, this shit on the other hand is just pathetic lmfao
>>1294247 >do you really think we can continue living with these people, especially after what's happened recently I think a lot of the Qtards and their ilk are too far gone, they're the enemy. Trump's larger base I think can be reached with the right messaging. A lot of these people voted for Obama. Yeah, technically the feds should prevent murder and kidnappings, that's their job. But turning that into supporting the feds fight against "extremism" is horrible, cause leftists will be the ones dicked at the end.
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>>1293745 kekked irl >>1293715 shut the fuck up, liberal >>1294111 >No, the division between left and right is purely whether you support nationalization (socialism) or privatization (capitalism). bro please make the sarcasm more obvious or that crowd will end up believing this
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>tfw you're the proud owner of a Chinese communist military phone
>>1294262 What sucks is how American will easily absorb right wing conspiracy garbage immediately. While even if their instincts are correct they rather continue going from cargo cult to cargo cult than even consider socialism as the answer. I remember the qanon anonymous podcast did a reading of a Q thread. Where they talked about life post "the storm". They basically described an advance post scarcity communist society. And this wasn't them lying or virtue signaling. It was on their board on 8kun. I dont understand how they can know and desire good things but are so opposed to them ever happening. In less its their cult leader implementing it.
Is liberals thinking that the capitol attack was a coup attempt and taking actions against the perpetrators the actual coup attempt?
>>1294234 was, is and will always be a fag >>1294141 Almost no one did, as he mostly expressed himself in letters because he had phobias about everything, including social. He wrote a preposterous amount.
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>>1294240 >Rainbow Terror
>>1294307 Yes. Reminder the Patriot Act rammed into law immediately after 9/11, in fact originated as a failed legislative proposal in 1995, written by none other than Joe Biden.
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>>1294333 Looks like uninstallation isn't an option, time for another update.
>>1294339 isn't this from some perturbator song?
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>>1294342 For the sake of my own sanity, I'll assume that was ironic, and nobody is actually that much of a turbozoomer. 8/10
>>1294307 It is the farce complement to the tragedy of the Reichstag fire. Instigated by the ones who are now screaming they are under threat - the Federal Government itself. https://thegrayzone.com/2021/01/12/chaos-agent-right-wing-us-capitol-riot-black-lives-matter/
>>1294339 >why yes, I will be back. >how could you tell?
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Gross, these are the people in charge now
I have checked out of politics for a bit and surprise surprise I'm happier. on a side note. Fuck lumpen drug dealers NATIONALIZE RECREATIONAL DRUGS NOW!
>>1294358 Is this narcissism? I don't know how else you can explain it.
>>1294364 mostly bad taste + being huge pussies
As millions become unemployed, homeless, indebt... libs are doing yes queen woke bullshit. They eat DNC dick yet hold there brand as "progressive leftist", they're the rad lib that believes ever CIA lie about 20th century socialism. The right is a distraction this is our real enemy ANTIFA? we need ANTILIB!
>>1294358 I really hope that post is satire.
>>1294368 We need roter frontkampfer bund
>>1294357 >mfw Arnie is to the left not only of Republicans but Democrats now as well
>>1294368 /antilib/ might be a good board name for the new site
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>>1294368 Here. Autistic OC for you because you put ANTLIB in my head
>>1294368 When I say ANTI-LIB I mean we forget there Is a right. The right doesn't exist! You are either a liberal or a commie. By and large this is the reality, its time to pick a enemy. That enemy is biden, the DNC, identity politics. Remember that from the most progressive socdem, to the most neoliberalism of libs The liberal is enemy #1 its is wanted dead not alive.
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>>1294389 Might be possible if the libs really do purge the trump fags. But as long they exist they'll always be a convenient boogieman.
>>1294400 escaping to Israel
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>>1294400 Boeing C-17A Globemaster III Squawk: 0561
>>1294392 We are weak not because the right but the libs "that represent us the left"! To hurt libs to grow the socialist movement, is much better then petty squabbles with rightoids.
>>1294400 What is this?
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Parler helped the FBI identify at least one person charged in connection with the Capitol riot >Parler is sharing information with the FBI for the Department of Justice's investigations into the riot at the US Capitol. >An affidavit from an FBI special agent filed in court Tuesday says Eduardo Florea stockpiled more than 1,000 rounds of ammo and threatened to kill Sen.-elect Raphael Warnock of Georgia. >The affidavit says the FBI received records from Parler to identify the user behind the account "LoneWolfWar," where the threats originated. Parler provided the phone number associated with the account, the affidavit says, and the FBI used it, and info from T-Mobile, to identify Florea. https://www.businessinsider.com/parler-shared-information-fbi-capitol-riot-suspect-2021-1
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>>1294413 >LoneWolfWar
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>>1294413 >parler Isn't that the Twatter alternative that requires verified photo ID to post, and bans pr0n because the owner is a TradCath LARPer?
>>1294406 >insert anti centrist gang meme
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"And then one day, for no reason at all..."
>>1294368 If you really want to be technical about it Marx's occasional whiny protestations otherwise aside socialism itself IS LIBERALISM, continuing to uphold all the principles of the Enlightenment movements that produced it, as is obvious in early manifestations from the Levellers to Ricardo. For exactly this reason, capitalism was regularly accused of false liberalism, just as AnCaps are today accused of false anarchy.
>>1294392 As long as you're in full control of themeans of communication, your boogieman doesn't even need to exist. >>1294404 bruh is he taking the entire fucking Trump Tower with him to Tel Aviv >>1294421 Yeah Parler is the one that requires photo ID, but Gab is the one which banned loli and/or hentai because the free-speech advocate running it is Jesusian. >>1294428 It's still ridiculous garbage. The porkies pushing your shit in will have to avoid using these words while doing said in-pushing, that surely is a mighty blow to your freedom.
>>1292421 Kill yourself
>>1292538 >>1292588 I would say that losing a second time to a literal retard would have imploded the Democrats, but they walked out revived from this victory. As I pointed out before the election, they took a gamble when picking this unbelievably awful team instead of going for an easy victory with a hope-and-change re-run, and sadly, they won.
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>>1294442 >Yeah Parler is the one that requires photo ID, but Gab is the one which banned loli and/or hentai because the free-speech advocate running it is Jesusian. The entire concept of every feature that defines Twatter and everything like it disgusts me, so I don't actually use any of these. But why are they all like this, even the ones built entirely on P2P tech like Fediverse that should render all of it irrelevant? Same on the left with Mastadon, which is dominated by SJWs too deranged even for eCelebs in that sphere like Will Wheaton to withstand?
>>1294456 I'm not quite sure which features are the ones you're talking about. Please elaborate.
>>1294428 Stop getting your news from twitter. They stripped gender specific terms from a document outlining house rules. They did not literally ban the words from being said.
>>1294461 Ambiguous bureaucracy is based?
>>1294400 False alarm it was just carrying Puerto Rico NG
>>1294458 Just the domination of all of these places by a ridiculously petty, omnipresent pseudo-ideological clique of some kind, that demands total kneejerk adherence to the social maneuvering of their kewl kids' klub circlejerk and its every tiny internal upheaval. >features That was just an aside regarding the mechanical design of Twatter and similar sites: Very short message length, follow/mention/retwat/hashtag system that encourages one-way mobbing, routine deletion of messages/accounts that removes evidence of bad faith mob hits before a cogent response can be researched, opaque clunky UI that discourages complex conversations and makes them difficult to follow, etc.
Damn Trumper are getting wholly rejected by capital it seems.
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We shook our heads at the opsec of the rioters and protesters last year, yet they're motherfucking Mossad when compared to Qoomers.
>>1294542 Based IKEA >>1294545 My sides
>>1294545 lmao one like
>>1294298 >I dont understand how they can know and desire good things but are so opposed to them ever happening Because the point of QAnon (along with being pure copium) is to be an outlet. They want this better world, but anything that makes the world better is "communism" and is thus evil. It's just a bunch of coddled boomers trying to rationalize the idiotic things they believe in. Notice how all that MURICA #1 shit has effectively disappeared as we've hit 1 out of every 1 thousand dead? It's all pure, unaltered copium
>>1294229 >PMC being a socdem invention scoffed at by leftcoms and abused by """right populists""" (forgot to mention earlier, right populism is basically an oxymoron in a class society) Whats wrong with it? I imagine there has been tremendous change in the middle class and that this contributes to the culture war between red and blue, the latter capturing the newer class and promising it access to urban civil society. >not the also very real camps of national bouj vs international bouj I imagine right wing populism is an alliance of the petty bourgeoisie and parts of the working class with national capital. >The connection you might be missing is the compatibility of liberal ideology and fascist ideology, the interface is surprisingly large. How? And why do liberals treat you rather than MAGA as a lesser evil? >I'm not sure who outside of DNC affiliates and shitlibs shills who went off about muh defending democracies It's everywhere. I abandoned Socialist Alternative for nationalism a couple years ago now. The people I still talk to say it has absolutely no idea what to do in order to be independent of liberalism, and even thinking in those terms is a betrayal of nonwhites, LGBT, etc. Years later I come here for the first time and it sounds like the whole left, especially on social media, is like this
Why do transhumanists hate chasers so much?
Be Jimmy Doore have 19 inch dick, be a liberal and convince people to be marxists without knowing what it is, eventually read Lenin, get invited onto Fox news Tucker Carlson, Make Fox news and their audience agree with Marxism. Be funny comedian with millions of fans and never sell out. By 2030 lead communist revolution in the US without reading much theory or trying very hard.
>>1294658 Same reaason women hate men, ex boyfriends
>>1294658 cuz they want to be real girl, not trap
I am a Transhumanist and a 6foot4 chad Transhumanism doesn't mean transgender LMAO Transhumanists are people which want to improve their body with science as the technology comes e.g. replace arm with better then human bionic ones
>>1294663 tr a nny is word filtered to transhumanist
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>>1294579 You're SEVERELY overthinking this: Most people including most self-described "socialists" have absolutely no idea what socialism nor capitalism actually is. Like my main man Upton Sinclair said, socialism probably isn't going to be sold by that name in most cases.
>trust the plan guiz >2 more week guiz >release le kraken https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust >Operation Trust was a counterintelligence operation of the State Political Directorate (GPU) of the Soviet Union. The operation, which was set up by GPU's predecessor Cheka, ran from 1921 to 1926, set up a fake anti-Bolshevik resistance organization, "Monarchist Union of Central Russia", MUCR, in order to help the OGPU identify real monarchists and anti-Bolsheviks. The created front company was called the Moscow Municipal Credit Association.
>>1294735 Maybe that's what it morphed into eventually, but I'm still convinced QLARP originated as a low-grade scam to sell "milsurp" laptop computers, that went WILDLY out of control.
>>1294663 lurk moar newfriend
>>1294658 They don't, they love the attention. They just say that >>1294726 The shallow boomer mind sees America, patriotism, capitalism, freedom, anticommunism, and liberty as synonyms
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>>1294659 Even stronger alternative possibility
>>1294726 You're right, but it doesn't mean he's wrong. Chomsky summarized the America's primary social control tactic perfectly: "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum—even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate." The eternal media circus making wedge issues seem like matters of life or death is the most simple way to do it, but it doesn't mean it can play any such issue at any such time. In fact, we're seeing the undoing of the infamous Southern strategy, which lasted an awful lot longer than anyone expected. Besides any worries of Republicans about how to move forward, presumably (I'm not placing any bets these days, especially when it's about America) the eternal circus can't use those topics to keep going. Let's look at the media landscape in a couple of months from now. The Rainbow Terror has successfully purged all things Trump from everything, and brunch is finally back on the menu, yay. But there are still tens of millions of people unemployed and losing their homes, and it's absolutely vital that these things, and other obvious signs of America's downwards spiral do not come to the fore. The MSM will have to keep feeding the beast called 24/7 newscycle, but with what? The big baddie has just been vanquished, and the previous culture war crap will probably only get diminishing returns now. Much like how he's out of ideas on how to move forward with capitalism, Porky seems to be at a loss about what narrative to set now. And while this is a big problem for him, it can prove to be disastrous (for him) because of the risk of those tens of millions of poor bastards not being distracted with bullshit every single second. From this moment on, Porky will be trying to hold the catastrophic material conditions back with Spectacle; Trump had been filling this role ever since the economic prolapse, but now they need a new attraction.
>>1294735 I confess myself impressed.
>>1294746 Considering now it's pretty much a fact that Jim was Q, did this laptop theory account for his participation? >>1294784 Man, I miss Newsradio.
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