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Rules, Moderation and Manifesto Feedback. Anonymous Board volunteer 09/08/2019 (Sun) 18:05:38 No. 57734 [Reply]
Don't:
-spam
-post cuckshit, "commies BTFO," or any of that kind of shit
-post any porn depicting underage (including drawings)
-attempt to cloak reactionary politics in left-wing rhetoric (Strasserism, "Nazbol" Strasserism, National "Socialism," Zionism, "Die cis scum"/"Kill all white men" SJW shit)
-incite specific acts of terrorism or similar acts (use your head, don't act like a fed)
-post idpol outside the designated idpol containment thread

Do:
-be respectful, ask questions, and know your place if you're a reactionary
-feel free to flame, shitpost, and be sectarian if you are a leftist (just keep it somewhat within reason)

If you think that the mod team hasn't responded to your request in a satisfactory manner or that it was ignored, you can now contact us directly at comatoast@7chan.org
Comatoast, the vol who kindly proposed this, checks this email account everyday day but might not respond immediately due to work.

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>>152222
no.
nice digits
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Please ban posters doing this in containment thread:
-attempt to cloak reactionary politics in left-wing rhetoric
-spam
>>152530
>-attempt to cloak reactionary politics in left-wing rhetoric (Strasserism, "Nazbol" Strasserism, National "Socialism," Zionism, "Die cis scum"/"Kill all white men" SJW shit)
>>152533
There's no comma between the quotation mark and SJW, that's all one phrase. No one's called for violence except the couple people expressing their desire for legalized rape.
>>152571
>except the couple people expressing their desire for legalized rape.
Youaredelusional

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For New Anons and Lurkers: FAQ, rules, and reading list Comrade 08/05/2019 (Mon) 07:32:55 No. 8537 [Reply]

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>>149115
So I have an ultimatum: Bill Gates and the Illuminati got a herd of nigger cattle. WOOOO WE GOTT A HERD OF NIGGER CATTLE WE GOT A HERD OF NIGGER CATTLE. They got a big herd of nigger cattle yippie ki yay we're nigger cattle herders we got a herd of nigger cattle, they are the most docile fucking nigger cattle we got 'em so docile we got this awesome big fucking herd of nigger cattle and they shit and they sit there and they watch TV and they shit ITS THE BEST FUCKING HERD OF NIGGER CATTLE. We took away all their guns now they just shit and we watch them and were rich. We are so fucking rich. We have so much fucking money. We got this herd of nigger cattle WOOOOO. We're milking the fucking nigger cattle it's the best thing ever. So that's what the Illuminati got and I got a space alien. So here is my ultimatum: you can live in hell with my nigger cattle OR you can put me in charge of the space alien temple, the third temple. OK? Have fun with your nigger cause I sure as hell ain't gonna fucking suck your jew nigger cock. Fuck yourself you think i'm gonna fucking enjoy nigger cattle after I had a fucking space alien are you fucking crazy? I got a fucking space alien of course I'm not gonna fuck, fuck with nigger cattle fuck yourself. You fucking think i... enjoy your FUCKING NIGGER CATTLE YOU GOT THE NIGGER CATTLE YOU GOT THE NIGGER CATTLE YOU GOT THE NIGGER CATTLE GO GO GO GO YOU GOT THE NIGGER CATTLE. You got a fucking herd of nigger WOOOO we got 'em so docile they just shit all day aint that so great?
>>150037
thanks family
anybody got anything on 'Xi Jinping Thought'?
>>151015
King Terry was WOKE
>>150993
As it goes with most of this board

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The role of gender and race Comrade 08/07/2019 (Wed) 16:13:52 No. 15551 [Reply]
Notice: This thread serves as the offical /idpol/ gulag. Direct all threads that are pure idpol here.

Original OP:
I want this thread to be about a couple of things:

- Sharing arguments for a more rigorous understanding of how gender and race act upon people today.
- Using this understanding to form strategies to more effectively organize the working class.
- Building strategies to use this understanding to effectively criticize false or inept strategies of organizing the working class.

I wasn't a part of the discussion in the mod thread about having a general on gender, but I wanted to make a new one anyways because I think it is important to have a thread about both gender and race. Ideally this will not descend into screeds about idpol, though it is inevitable some reactionaries will be drawn to the thread. I want to see quality discussions that make good faith attempts to convince others of positions on identity.

It is not virtue signalling to say this is an important topic of theory for the modern leftist movement. It is clear that identity has had a large role in left-adjacent and liberal politics for the past couple of decades, reaching a peak within probably the last decade. As much as many would wish that they could just erase this and go back to a raw working class politics of trade unionism, it is at this moment a historical fact that the role of identity has come to take a dominant role in much leftist discourse and it can't just be wished away by ridiculing or denying it. The social categories of race and gender are understood now in very particular ways, often very confused ways, by large swathes of the working class. So it seems to me that the goal should be to form convincing and coherent understandings of these social roles in capitalism, to analyze how they are currently being used by both the working class itself and its enemies to achieve/maintain political power, and strategies for directing this in the most fruitful way.

Of course feel free to share books and articles about the subject here too, or to use current events to explore how gender and race effect the working class today.
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Id opt for people not legally allowed to marry outside their economic class and divorce banned
>>152776
Ban sex, children of the trough only.
>>152776
wtf why?
>>152777
Now that's neo-Malthusian
>>152779
Pol Pot was wise

Anonymous 12/08/2019 (Sun) 21:07:33 No. 152396 [Reply]
I thought I'd be extremely unfair to discuss Proletkult with the usual Breadtube embarrassments, soylets and narcissists, I believe they deserve their own thread. They just released a 3:30h (!!) Marxist-Leninist documentary about culture:

https://youtu.be/-jLbq9VwOK8

It's extremely aesthetically appealing, it's poetic, it's accessible without dumbing down stuff. Highly recommend it. I usually never shamelessly shill for stuff but Proletkult doesn't get nearly enough subscribers than they deserve.
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>>152487
He said postmodern for a reason. He called him “postmodern fascist” in the same way Zizek talks about “modern boss”.
>>152755
Here Zizek talks about "post modern nationalism".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TtKBWU2fhY
>>152396
Sounds interesting but please tell me it's not "capitalism is ruinin western culture!!! we need socialism to bring muh traditional values back!"
>>152772
Nope. This shits on both Modern and post-modern as bourgeois trash while praising proletarian culture. Might have a few mistakes here and there but it’s very entertaining.
this is an incredible documentary.

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Anonymous 09/17/2019 (Tue) 02:23:17 No. 65199 [Reply]
Christcom General
Who /christcom/ here? Death to America, death to the Great Satan. What are some essential thinkers for Christcoms to study (other than the usual Five Heads)? IMO:
-Jesus Christ
-Chavez and Maduro
-Hassan Nasrallah
-Thomas Müntzer
-Ayatollahs Khomeini and Khamenei
-Malcolm X
-Che and Fidel
-suggestions?
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>>152751
/pol/ mods really want to maintain the collective schizophrenia I reckon.
>>152751
>>152750
>Here's an example of a jesuitical Kantian truth to back them into a corner
Anyway the example that's now gone was "Deaths in Auschwitz were caused by typhus outbreaks"
Then I challenged them to post the text to Matthew 19:24 KJV which they had claimed didn't say what it actually says
>>152737
>mind only
Like with the german this can also be stated as; Spirit only
>>152733
More people are religious than ever. Atheists should be murdered

/lay/ - hilo latino Anonymous 12/08/2019 (Sun) 20:31:55 No. 152360 [Reply]
edition AMLO
salu2 como estan mis amigitos
What's youses opinions on Morales and Bolivia?
>>152373
He's ok.
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>>152373
Que no está solo CARAJO
Ayer estuve en una reunión familiar y entre mi viejo y mis tíos (todos clase profesional-gerencial y uno que otro pequeño empresario) ya con un par de tragos encima empezaron a hablar sobre lo basado que era Bolsonaro, que las protestas en chile fueron instigadas por agentes castristas, que los yunaites deberian intervenir militarmente en Venezuela y que Evo era un narco. En fin, simplemente atine a no darles la contra y asentir cada vez que preguntaron por mi opinión.
>>152360
¿Qué pasó con los otros dos hilos? Yo no recuerdo que los hayan cerrado ni nada, de hecho el primero tenía aportaciones decentes sobre la presidencia de AMLO

An oldfag coming back Anonymous 12/07/2019 (Sat) 22:20:12 No. 151511 [Reply]
Hello everyone,

Im a 8chan /leftypol/ oldfag who got out of IBs a long time ago, but today, in a moment of nostalgia it occured to me "what has it been of /leftypol/?". I found myself with 8ch.net closed, and this chan open.

Let me put in context how long it has been since I left.

>was there when /leftypol/ opened in 8chan
>Was there when the logo and Cat-alunya were created
>was there when the original Bunkermag opened
>Was there when this chan opened
>Was there when Muke (aka Xexizy) started to promote his YT channel at /leftypol/
>Was there when Brennan left to the Phillipines and then when he sold the site

It may seem like im trying to brag my antiquity, but im not, im trying to put in context some important moments of /leftypol/'s past to contextualize the time when I used to be in the community, and see if there still are anons from that time.

Anyways, Im here to get in touch again with the community, catch up with what happened with 8ch.net in general and leftypol specifically, and see how things go.

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>>152611
There is divisiveness.
His views on trans people and sex workers are one such divisor.
>>152599
Thats a really good question. All I know is that my part has good relations with the PCUSA (https://partyofcommunistsusa.org/), which IS NOT the CPUSA.

I actually met one of the members of its youth wing during the 2017 World Festival of Youth and Students, in Russia. Even though they are small as far as I know, they are well connected internationally with the Greek KKE, the Italian Partito Comunista and the Mexican PCM, which is one of the dopest and strongest CPs in the Americas right now. I reccomend you try to get in contact with them, they have, in my opinion the best trajectory in terms of loyalty to the cause and to Marxism-Leninism.

I'll leave you guys a few wikipedia articles to get some basic info on the topic, is a bit obscure if you are not organized https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Festival_of_Youth_and_Students https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_World_Festival_of_Youth_and_Students
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>>152556
>He openly admitted to getting his information from twitter.
I have an extremely carefully pruned twitter newsfeed, it is literally the best source of comprehensive news and analysis (including links to long stuff) that I can find. Here's a thought experiment: can you name a single modern news website that you wholeheartedly recommend? I can't. But there are good Marxists on twitter (in spite of the platform) who are literally years ahead of everyone else in their analysis. I wish they'd go to a different platform, but that's how things are right now.

>Then eventually read some basic stuff.
I have read a substantial amount of theory & history at this point. I won't say exactly what, but I can say with some certainty that I've read more Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc than all but a few posters on this board.
>>152556
>>152562
>>152600
Straight from the horse's fronthole:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190529083227/https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2886760.html
>Aside from reading Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and others, I also got more into ☭TANKIE☭ twitter at the time. I had always been kind of aware of ☭TANKIE☭ twitter, but not knowing any theory or enough history made me uncertain about what they were saying. After /leftypol/ pushed me into serious Marxism, I had no reservations about all the praise of Stalin or whatever. I honestly think that the non-idpol, non-PSL ☭TANKIE☭s on twitter are an excellent place to get news and analysis. Some of them are really old and have studied this shit for ages. Yes, I like RedKahina's tweets. She's not right about everything and a bit dramatic, but she is redpilled as fuck. The news reports and analysis from these people convinced me that there is a serious problem with people promoting imperialist propaganda, and that it really is harmful.
Just in case you're not familiar enough with Weird Twatter Tranks to know how shit that is:
https://thecharnelhouse.org/2015/06/14/no-tears-for-tankies/
>Queen tankie Molly Klein — a fabulously rich heiress who grew up next to the Toscanini mansion on Wave Hill, daughter of the dude who invented PlayboyTV — routinely smears anyone who crosses her as “racist,” including the young black DSA member, Douglas Williams. Klein, alias RedKahina and numerous other sock-puppet accounts and anonymous online handles, has charged me on multiple occasions with antisemitism and antiziganism, despite my own Jewish and Roma ancestry. Now that Amber dared to make fun of her paranoiac panel from last year, accusing the Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek of being a CIA plant and psyop, they’ve begun making borderline misogynist remarks like “Amber Frost has to be a porn name” and “yuk, Frost wanders through the Left Forum like a dog with her tongue out thinking ‘whose leg can I hump?’.” Tarzie, the self-described “rancid honeytrap,” hoped that Amber would be hit by a bus. Charming lot, truly.

tl;dr: Miss Piggy was a theorylet, until running afoul of Weird Twatter Tranks that indoctrinated him with out of context ML quotes and heaps of their own woke shittakes.

>>152557
>>152704
Twatter and everyone associated with it need to be machinegunned into mass graves
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>>152746
>thecharnelhouse
>muh evil tankies
yikes

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convince a /pol/tard? Anonymous 11/29/2019 (Fri) 15:20:53 No. 143097 [Reply]
I have been on (4)/pol/ since 2015 and it's to the point where I'm sick of the same far-right talking points spammed day after day. What's some left-wing/socialist books and reading material for someone who is already predisposed to the tenets of the far-right? I want to see a leftist perspective on things like ethnonationalism, the Jewish question, and social programming by the media. I've read the first volume of capital and have recently bought the conquest of bread.
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>>145286
But how?
>>152747
Several years before that for me, and I was a communist all the way through still there and still am

It's fun to argue with the stormfags burgersharts ancaps etc, I don't know how OP did it without the kind of salt-mining entertainment I enjoyed
>>152756
Oh no. I meant practicing for a better attention span. I never was into shitposting in /pol/, though, because it felt like it was trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls ad infinitum.
>>152762
Sorry meant to reply to --> >>149761
>>152765
Or maybe --> >>149754

Not sure now :^)
>>152762
> because it felt like it was trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls ad infinitum.
Yeah nah yeah, a lot of the posting is by people who've just discovered the place, people who've been on it for a while only post when it gets interesting or they're pushing something forwards

/IG/ - Internet General 6.0 Anonymous 12/08/2019 (Sun) 23:58:24 No. 152593 [Reply]
E-celebs, breadtube, twitter, etc.

Prolekult's new film finally released btw, some informative shit, some frightening shit
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>>152682
The fact that we developed LANGUAGE as means of working together would be pretty weird for inherently selfish species
>Mfw niggas talking about rightoid brainworms and not A Dying Culture
>>152594
...sooo anybody managed to finish this 3,5 hour long epic? What did you guys think?
>>152745
Honestly liked it better than HiM which is impressive

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Should we have military conscription? Ziz 12/03/2019 (Tue) 23:11:35 No. 147627 [Reply]
Should we have military conscription or some sort of national service?
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>>150889
What's just and fair is a volunteer army

rude sage
>>151577
From what I can garner from the what the others is saying is that conscription is a period of ~1-2 years of mandatory active service, whereas a people's militia is more "irregular" service.
>>151675

But its shown to be the opposite.
Mandating military training right after high school and then having a milita system where people have to go in for a few weeks or a few months and irregular service afterwards like Switzerland is totally doable, even in the US. I think we should have everyone who can do basic military training and then have to join the National Guard, where you would go in for a few weeks a year, and that would be the bulk of the military so we wouldn't need to have this huge standing force. The rest of the branches would remain professional. Not even talking about socialism, just right now I think that would be a better system. But full fledged military service for everyone being mandated is probably not doable unless you're a tiny country like Denmark, and even then there's always exceptions made because you can't have everyone joining. Countries like Denmark and Norway basically just let anyone who doesn't want to do it off the hook for this reason.
>>152760
In socialism, as long as a military is necessary to have, I do think everyone would be involved in some way, but even in this late stage capitalism I do think some sort of peoples militia is doable and desirable, however full fledged conscription really isnt.

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