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For New Anons and Lurkers: FAQ, rules, and reading list Anonymous Board volunteer 07/05/2020 (Sun) 20:23:05 No. 668788 [Reply] [Last]
🚧🚧Please bookmark http://leftypol.org in case this current domain gets v&ed or anything else.🚧🚧 Visual Guide for New Anons https://bunkerchan.xyz/.media/e7c5eab9a4fa215d646e6c8aaee497ef-imagepng.png Do not put your e-mail in the e-mail field First, Please read this OP. Since we're leftists, there shouldn't be many differences ideologically, but our community has its own jargon and idiosyncrasies which might be jarring to outsiders. Second, although we allow slurs, we are anti-bigotry and it will not be tolerated. Thirdly, the board has an anti-idpol rule. Meaning that discussion of idpol topics is not allowed. There is some flexibility. Where that flexibility is also requires some time to get the feel of it. Fourthly, don't put anything in the name, or email fields. Don't doxx yourself Search the catalog before starting a new thread to avoid duplicates: https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/catalog.html MOD LOG: If you wish to see the log of mod actions (ban, deletions etc...) see https://bunkerchan.xyz/logs.js?boardUri=leftypol META DISCUSSIONS AND GENERAL COMPLAINTS AND QUERIES ABOUT THE SITE'S ADMINISTRATION: >>>/gulag/ Useful threads are often remade when expired, search the catalog if these links are broken. Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread >>983378 Internet General >>986104

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>>1183427 One of us could always apply but I'm not fucking putting up with tard sitting cuckchan and reddit refugees in the hopes that maybe some serious discussion is accomplished.
Recommend me some hidden gem books that will expand my mind.
>>1188981 (you) should lead by example
>>668788 Wayback.Archive may close down from lack of funds, which would include archive.org book scans. Please help.

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Leftist perspective on te general strike that shut down Kerala province? Anonymous 11/28/2020 (Sat) 02:55:53 No. 1177368 [Reply] [Last]
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bharat-bandh-today-10-trade-unions-protest-centres-new-farm-labour-laws-2330330 250 crore (250 MILLION) workers from all the major unions from Bank Tellers to Rickshaw drivers went on strike yesterday and the day before. I'm not seeing any coverage from the Left What's up?
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Any Indian's in Delhi on here? This is the big one. Like nearly all pivotal uprisings it started in Punjab... Based and the medias are really downplaying the scale 300k from Punjab travelled to Delhi and more groups joining them at Delhi and protesting their local states The reason this is massive is that fundamentally the capital big cocks want full domination over the food supply in the most populous nation after China.
>>1178617 BASED and comfy tolerance leftist pilled Why did no-one listen to you guys getting along with each other during Partition?
>>1180479 Youtube ANAND TELTUMBDE Centrist Managerial class BTFO Man'sbeen arrested but writes on caste and capital and neoliberalism
>>1184597 Because the board is navel-gazing mental masturbation because the western left in the US and UK is mental
>>1184837 Show GIBS and MEDATS

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Anonymous 12/03/2020 (Thu) 10:42:01 No. 1192156 [Reply] [Last]
What do we think of Jiang Shigong? >Jiang Shigong (born 11 November 1967; Chinese: 强世功) is a Chinese legal and political theorist, currently a professor at Peking University Law School, and a researcher on Hong Kong affairs. He is a "conservative socialist" exponent of Xi Jinping Thought and opposed to liberalism in China. Jiang previously worked at the Hong Kong Liaison Office from 2004 to 2008, and has advised the Chinese government on Hong Kong on subsequent occasions. Among his major ideas are his theory of the "absolute" or unwritten constitution of China embodied in the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party and his argument for the supremacy of the state as an "ethical entity" and the embodiment of the people's drive towards self-transformation. One of the main Chinese translators of Carl Schmitt, Jiang is a notable promoter of Schmitt's political theory in China. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/12/nazi-china-communists-carl-schmitt/617237/
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>>1196668 >1. Nietzsche wasn't a fascist. Fascists love him for good reason. His sister didn't need to fabricate anything. Nietzsche was the first big postmodernist and his calls for the destruction of democracy and eternal subjugation of the proletariat to their "superiors" is a cornerstone of fascism. Nazi soldiers marched into the USSR with copies of "Beyond Good and Evil" in their pockets and the Nietzche follower Baeumler was one of the main ideologues of the fascist reich. It's irrelevant trying to distinguish him from the fascism that used his work as a framework and worldview. >2. Zizek isn't a fascist. It's that time again. https://alphonsevanworden.tumblr.com/post/146430343445/the-protocols-of-the-learned-lacanian-of
>>1196684 Is futurism fascist?
>>1196686 Depends. Italian futurists largely ended up in the fascist camp but many Russian futurists like Mayakovsky supported communism. Art is a way of portraying the world, philosophy is a way of ruling it. In the case of Nietzsche there is no comparison because Nietzsche has never had any following among communists due to his anti-communism, aristocratic worldview and parasitism.
Based I reckon The liberals have been enjoying Schmitt for half a century of hegemony he was even published often enough in West German papers
>>1196694 >Russian Futurism is the broad term for a movement of Russian poets and artists who adopted the principles of Filippo Marinetti's "Manifesto of Futurism," which espoused the rejection of the past, and a celebration of speed, machinery, violence, youth, industry, destruction of academies, museums, and urbanism;[1] it also advocated the modernization and cultural rejuvenation. Bunkerchan is Russian Futurist gang?

/WEBM/ Anonymous 12/03/2020 (Thu) 22:40:11 No. 1193758 [Reply] [Last]
Post your based or cringe MP4, WEBM files here
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Picrel with this backsound https://youtu.be/1C7m3EdFfDQ Help me please? Thanks
>>1196036 Lol that post is very carefully worded to avoid admitting that it talks about abolishing work.
>>1196036 Download Kdenlive and figure it out for yourself, it's not that hard. https://kdenlive.org/
>>1196094 But why tho? Abolishing work is the ultimate goal of communists.
>>1194038 Redpill me on the Belt and Road Initiative

Why are so many people here retarded on the ecological question? Anonymous 11/29/2020 (Sun) 21:41:58 No. 1182286 [Reply] [Last]
>Partial repost of shit I put in another thread The problem is here that most people on leftypol are really only knowledgeable about Marxism, and even then I doubt many have truly read Marxist works. I’ve actually been interested in biological and earth sciences my whole life, I’ve always read much about these things. People here don’t at all understand the terrifying predicament we are in, they just say “blah, blah you are a doomer” but they only say these things out of ignorance, and I believe fear. I read, particularly into the five mass extinctions in Earth’s history, the most terrifying events ever to have occurred, people here do not comprehend mankind’s peril; we are the very last of our kind for a reason, we are big animals and require much food. Five times most life was extinguished and the world was basically forced to reform; we are likely in such a time now, our current parallel most closely resembles the very worst extinction as far as we know, save for an exception, during that time it occurred on a much longer time span and there was no intelligent race leading a mode of production that encouraged the deterioration of every corner of the entire natural world We are already in a mass extinction event, global warming hasn’t even become part of it yet, what we’re in now is a mass extinction, when global warming really kicks in we will likely end a second phase of the extinction that turns this into the Sixth Extinction, that is, of all mass extinction events this will likely become the sixth among the five worst ones; in the five worst over 75% of all multicellular life was wiped out. So far, I think, if this becomes as bad as it can, if another life form were to examine Earth’s geological record, they’ll see a mass extinction event that begins roughly 10-15,000 years ago, greatly accelerates roughly 500 years ago, gets even faster within this century, the last, and the next, and finally a massive extinction wave starting next century or the one after it. This is pretty fucking bad. Even without global warming we would already be damaging every single ecosystem on Earth simultaneously, with global warming this will likely become one of the worst extinction events Earth has experienced. Life will surely rebound one day, but, lmao, our entire genus has already gone extinct except for us, you have no proof we will survive this if it continues. I’m a communist because I see communism as this world’s sole hope to stop this nightmare, the people here can’t envision how bad it can get, but I can, any paleontologist could. People here think because people exist we will necessarily find a magical solution to this, this is childish thinking, humans caused the extinction event and while we are ingenious we also bring with us warfare and are nuclear armed at that. Humans may survive this century and the next, that does not make us immortal, and we can survive in a rather sorry state, it’s remarkable for a species that can conceive of their individual death to be unable to envision extinction; if people here want to run away into Marx never forget, the ruination of the contending classes is always a possible outcome, the contradiction between mankind and Nature can just as easily be resolved in humanity’s extinction as it can in communist ecology.
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>>1196574 if you cared at all about whether your hopium is solid or not you'd know why that's bullshit already.
>>1196621 >storeshitter cope
>>1196622 i do not know what that means.
You would like Bookchin
>>1196574 Techno-cornucope >>1196607 Total extinction is unlikely. Humans have passed through evolutionary bottlenecks before and we a few of us, anyway can theoretically do it again.

>>1196585 >Planning is fash. Yeah, man, like, fuck oppressive numbers and shit, man.
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>>1196594 >>1196602 An interesting semantic question: If people aren't directly involved in formulating economic organization, which instead develops automatically in realtime as the result of different programmed interests from multiple decentralized agents, is it still planning?
>>1196615 Yes, atty least because someone has to actually develop, maintain and monitor the software.
>>1193500 >It's a lot more efficient to tamper with the machines than to stuff the ballot boxes. It's all fraud, brah. >>1193462 >Sugar Baby University I can taste the freedom, and it's as sweet as sugar. Reminded me of Russia: >“Business theory teaches us one important lesson,” says the instructress. “Always thoroughly research the desires of the consumer. Apply this principle when you search for a rich man. On a first date there’s one key rule: never talk about yourself. Listen to him. Find him fascinating. Find out his desires. Study his hobbies; then change yourself accordingly.” >Gold Digger Academy. A pool of serious blonde girls taking careful notes. Finding a sugar daddy is a craft, a profession. The academy has faux-marble halls, long mirrors, and gold-color-painted details. Next door is a spa and beauty salon. You go for your gold-digger lessons, then you go get waxed and tanned. The teacher is a forty-something redhead with a psychology degree, an MBA, and a shrill smile, her voice high and prim, a Miss Jean Brodie in short skirts: “Never wear jewelry on a first date, the man should think you’re poor. Make him want to buy you jewelry. Arrive in a broken-down car: make him want to buy you a smarter one.” >The students take notes in neat writing. They have paid a thousand dollars for each week of the course. There are dozens of such “academies” in Moscow and St. Petersburg, with names such as “Geisha School” or “How to Be a Real Woman.” https://archive.is/PmDZB >>1193601 He didn't. He said "Biden would be the lesser evil" once in May, and that's it. Some people have been equating that with endorsing Biden, including r/neoliberal. In 2016 he suported Trump for the sake of accelerationism, this time he seems to have avoided making a commitment, saying both of them are the same long-term disaster. https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/slavoj-%C5%BEi%C5%BEek-joe-biden-is-long-term-the-same-catastrophe-as-trump-1.4312913
>>1193628 >>1193679 You have to face the facts: American's elections aren't just rigged, defrauded and otherwise subverted in an infinity of ways, they're designed to be so. Spaghetti code, like everything else in the pointlessly Byzantine process, is supposed to provide opportunity and cover for fraud.

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/leftybritpol/ Anonymous 12/03/2020 (Thu) 19:12:30 No. 1193168 [Reply] [Last]
Anti Semitism Edition
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>>1196649 >>1195867 Hey dude Read the room.
>>1196676 >>1195931 has actual mRNA science.
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>>1196661 More like
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>>1195931 >.gov
>>1196690 Utopia is literally about a vaccine that sterilises people though?

U.S. says China surpasses Russia as greatest threat to freedom. Anonymous 12/04/2020 (Fri) 14:08:49 No. 1195366 [Reply] [Last]
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>>1196651 This is meme materials,right here.i dont know how to edit it though.
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>>1196653 Old propaganda has loads of good stuff in it.
I mean China doesn't have the greatest track record in regards to human rights, but it's funny that everything that China is accused/ has been proven to have done, the US has also done and continues to do so. Also >we may live to see an all out schism between Burgerstan and China.
>>1196699 Whining about human rights is such a glowie thing because all the groups that investigate it are largely funded by billionaires from countries that have benefited them with their violation of human rights. It's never coming from a good place at this point, they've all been subsumed into the bourgeoisie.
>>1195540 Doomerism helps no one. A materialist but optimistic look of the future is what we truly needs in this late stage capitalism.

Anonymous 12/04/2020 (Fri) 18:23:38 No. 1195879 [Reply] [Last]
Waa Big Brother /ourguy/?
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>>1196646 >Not in his entire life has he identified as a trotskyite. He just called himself socialist. He fought for POUM in Spain, a Trotskyite outfit that sabotaged the Spanish republican war against fascism. It doesn't matter what people say, it's what they do. >He wrote that because he felt like it due to his past experiences. The book was literally banned and legally challenged all across the world. Haha, like he just felt like providing a list of supposed communists to the British government? 1984 is taught all over the capitalist world as it's a good tool of anti-communist brainwashing and creates hostility to socialism. Orwell was a repulsive fascist worm who hated the British working class.
>>1196646 >He literally fought fascists in the spanish war so did US GI's. >The book was literally banned and legally challenged all across the world. did he go to prison, get tortured, or even become inconvenienced in any way, beyond not getting "muh personal story" told? he had some controversy surrounding him and was obviously being surveilled by British intelligence for the remainder of his life - the rest of his problems were the result of bad luck and just shitty life decisions. I don't hate the man on a personal level, but really, his entire persona to me has been reduced to nothing more than a little controlled opp. lap-dog for that quibbles about "authoritarianism" and "surveillance states". If you like Animal Farm, please eat a bullet.
>>1196665 >so did US GI's. jesus, I'm high. I meant to imply that killing a fascist anywhere doesn't mean shit.
>>1195879 What’s with the recent despotist posts? Have the glowies tired of pretending to be a Twatter radlib and now doing this to make us look bad?
>>1196654 While POUM does have partly trotskyite origins, the political ideologies of its members were varied. Also, they pissed off trotsky himself. George orwell was only there because the party he was apart of (independent labour party), was linked to it. >that sabotaged the Spanish republican war Now you are just lying here. >Orwell did not know that two months before he arrived in Spain, the [Soviet law enforcement agency] NKVD's resident in Spain, Aleksandr Orlov, had assured NKVD Headquarters, 'the Trotskyist organisation POUM can easily be liquidated'—by those, the Communists, whom Orwell took to be allies in the fight against Franco." They literally turned traitor on everyone else. They subverted the revolution, not POUM. >supposed communists They were Stalinists confirmed by him. >>1196665

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Xenophilia Anonymous 12/03/2020 (Thu) 23:57:50 No. 1193911 [Reply] [Last]
I'd urge all communists to cultivate themselves by learning and studying the culture and life of another country or people. I do see it as a form of intellectual cultivation that will expand your level of consciosness. I'm studying Japanese. I'm not a weeb, I just like the overall look of Japan as a country in its various facets. Learning another language and experiencing their associated countries feels like exploring an undiscovered island for yourself. You learn the hyroglyphs, study the artifacts and learn to understand their way or seeing the world, their kind of reasoning. It's a fun intellectual adventure if you recognize it as such. It leaves you with an expanded understanding, having seen the world from another perspective. It leaves you feeling you understand humanity as a whole better. Additionally, it makes racism feel even dumber to you. There is no point in antagonizing people of other origins, but afterwards racist attacks look even pettier and dumber after thoroughly having learned about other cultures. When you know very little about another people you merely have an image in your head. An image you later begin to see as a misguided caricature. This image then turns into something three dimensional made out of flesh, life and depth. Denegrating another people by genuinely going "ching chang chong", "uighurs", "goatfuckers" ends up looking like an act of lower consciouesness once you've witnessed the richness of life, culture and humanity another people on Earth have. It gives you a stronger feeling that all on Earth have it. I heard once that astronauts feel a sense of global humanity when they look down at the blue, beautiful marble we call Earth from space. National borders vanish and you are left to look at this planet in its totality. I believe a comparable experience unfolds when you learn a language and study the culture of the people/country associated with that language. I urge my communist friends, if they have the time, to study another language and to learn about another country. It is an intellectual exercise that expands your view on what it means to be human. >inb4 nice blogpost Let me have a faithful moment when I'm usually cynical 99% of the time. Anyways, here are some nice videos that also shifted my perspective for whatever reason. Seeing history in color also has a certain feel to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1ipILaiaCA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUKFc1Du86U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYldOFCZD5o
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>>1195899 I wish I knew of other authors who tie things together from an anarcho-Marxist perspective and maintains the humility to do it well.
>>1193911 >'m studying Japanese. I'm not a weeb sure thing westoid basement dweller
>>1196179 >Westoid studies Japanese culture to become "not-racist" <ends up hating Koreans i've seen this happen way too many times, OP is going to start frothing at the mouth of "muh comfort wimminz" any day now
>>1196193 >non white people can be rascist
>>1194002 >nationalism does not conflict with internationalism. when did he say this? i want to know if he stole it off another guy who wrote this (Peter Ellis) or the other way around

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