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Word Filters

Hello all. We've heard your feedback over the word filters... believe me. So, we're going to ask the community what they think the word filters should be. Here is the list of wordfilters on 8ch just before the board died (I believe), as a template. Now, there are some limitations also, we can't do a filter for IQ for example because there is no functionality for spaces in lynxchan filters (IE the word critique etc would also be filtered). Also the black king wordfilter is gonna be changed, so, no need to complain about that... Anyway, there was a list an anon made that I thought was pretty good, but we lost it over a miscommunication, however the one I remember is 'PMC = people of college' which I think is pretty snappy. Anyways, let's apply ourselves and try to come up with some new 'buzzwords' that need to die, there's no poll for now cause we will just gather opinions at this point. So just say what you want and talk shit about other people's suggestions.

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For New Anons and Lurkers: FAQ, rules, and reading list

🚨🚨READ THIS FIRST BEFORE POSTING🚨🚨 Visual Guide for New Anons https://bunkerchan.xyz/.media/e7c5eab9a4fa215d646e6c8aaee497ef-imagepng.png Do not put your e-mail in the e-mail field First, Please read this OP. Since we're leftists, there shouldn't be many differences ideologically, but our community has its own jargon and idiosyncrasies which might be jarring to outsiders. Second, although we allow slurs, we are anti-bigotry and it will not be tolerated. Thirdly, the board has an anti-idpol rule. Meaning that discussion of idpol topics is not allowed. There is some flexibility. Where that flexibility is also requires some time to get the feel of it. Fourthly, don't put anything in the name, or email fields. Don't doxx yourself Search the catalog before starting a new thread to avoid duplicates: https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/catalog.html Useful threads are often remade when expired, search the catalog if these links are broken. Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread >>668321 Market Watch >>8552 Internet General >>637502 Original Creations (Memes) >>419177 Region specific threads USA >>531727 China >>8925 British >>648706 DPRK >>9051 Brazil >>18835 Latina >>483387 Nordic >>290791 Hungarian >>117378 Leftybooru - To upload, tag, and organize images https://leftypics.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list Leftypedia - A wiki project https://leftypedia.org Check out our other boards >>>/anime/ >>>/edu/ >>>/hobby/ >>>/games/ >>>/tech/ As well as our comrades over at /GET/ >>>/GET/ (funposting) >>>/ref/ (international discussion) Previous archived thread filled with reading material: >>8537

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A New Soviet Man eugenics

Why was socialists more eager to do eugenics in the past, compare to modern times?

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why is capital vol. 2 so dissapointing looks wise? the cover is made out of a different material, vol 1 is cardboard and vol 2 is plasticky cardboard, and despite being less like 70% the length it looks like less than half, and the pages are a different color altogether. I thought i was cracking my head against the wall of western civilization, but this thing doesn' t look threatening at all. also post pics of your book collections

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How much money did SU waste on useless projects?

I have been reading about SU lately, and apparently they spend a lot of money on some useless -stan republics, they subsidised worldwide revolution, they subsidised Cuba, North Korea, other satellites... So how much better would they be doing if they focused on improving SU instead. Thank you, any further reading would be great

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/leftybritpol/: Join Your Local Tenants Union Edition

In two months the ban on evictions will end. Millions of tenants all across the UK will face arrears and destitution. Join your local tenants union.

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Russia in the 90's

I don't know much about it, so how bad did things get in Russia (and the rest of the Soviet states) after the fall of the USSR in 1992?

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The USA is rioting - /BÜRGERKRIEG/

In light of the technical issues Bunkerchan is experiencing due to the massive influx of new users, remember that our official bunker is https://www.GETchan.net , we also have an official chat https://matrix.to/#/+leftychat:matrix.org to keep in touch with the mod team and you can use https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchantemp , maintained by members of the community, to continue chatting and following the happenings even if Bunkerchan goes down. There have been rodney king tier riots in Minneapolis since George Floyd was killed. What is /leftypol/'s opinion? Updated FRATERNAL RIOT PORN WATCHING AND FRIENDLY CIRCLEJERK HERE: https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchantemp (Or this one https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchanalt ) Location of protests all over the US: https://twitter.com/IGD_News/status/1266173527708835840 https://naarpr.org/updates/cities-join-the-call-for-national-day-of-protest/ DONATE TO HELP ARRESTED PROTESTORS https://twitter.com/ntltcIit/status/1266820861362933762 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X4-YS3vFn5CLL9QtJSU0xqmTh_h8XilXgOqGAjZISBI/edit Hasn't confirmed if it is 100% legit so do some background checks before doing so Tip if you are joining https://pastebin.com/1X2hxJS5 Flags are SUPER FUCKING USEFUL. I stood next to a girl with a megaphone who was telling people instructions, and having a flag next to her seriously helped bring people along. I stood on street corners and used the flag to help people see where the group had turned when the group fled the flashbangs. GET A FLAG, MAKE IT BIG My flag was 2 yards long of red broadcloth that doesn't even have clean edges that I superglued to a collapsible stick. It doesn't need to be pretty, it doesn't need to be amazing. Notice on doxxing: We know that the world is litterally falling apart and Jair Bolsonaro got doxxed. But on the offchance that capitalist civilisation doesnt disintegrate, posting doxxing info or direct links to it is still not allowed as per site rules. Sorry.

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Starting a new /cybersocialism/ general since the old one is dead MANDATORY READING http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/ For a complete reading list, see: https://web.archive.org/web/20190806121249/http://reality.gn.apc.org/Readinglist.htm cockshott's website reading list is down, the only place you can see it now is on archive.org Cockshott's Patreon https://www.patreon.com/williamCockshott/ Cockshott's youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ Cockshott's Blogs https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/ http://paulcockshott.co.uk/ This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and of course the great immortal scientist himself, WILLIAM PAUL COCKSHOTT Prev thread >>290148 Archive of thread http://archive.is/ZSznk

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News 7/11/20

Hundreds try to storm Serbian parliament as protests heat up Police fired tear gas at hundreds of demonstrators who tried to storm Serbia’s parliament on Friday, the fourth night of protests against the Balkan country president’s increasingly authoritarian rule. https://apnews.com/024b6c9e09a4d2504d047ab3f09303f1 Giant Protests in Russia's Far East After Popular Governor's Arrest Tens of thousands of protesters marched through the eastern Russian city of Khabarovsk on Saturday in support of a popular local governor arrested this week for allegedly ordering several murders. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/07/11/giant-protests-in-russias-far-east-after-popular-governors-arrest-a70849 Series of ‘explosions & power outages’ reported near Tehran A series of explosions have rocked the outskirts of the Iranian capital Tehran, as well as the cities of Garmdareh and Quds, Iranian media reported amid speculation that missile depots were the intended target. https://on.rt.com/alf8 Venezuelan socialist party leader Diosdado Cabello tests positive for COVID-19 Shortly after his announcement, President Nicolas Maduro said on state television Cabello would need several days of treatment and recovery, but that “he is already resting, he is fine.” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-argentina-cabello/venezuelan-socialist-party-leader-diosdado-cabello-tests-positive-for-covid-19-idUSKBN24A3FI Hundreds of UK police officers have convictions for serious crimes including assault and drug possession – media report Over 200 serving law enforcement officers in the UK have convictions for assault, drug possession and burglary, according to a report. It comes after a London Met police officer was charged with a series of terrorism offenses. https://on.rt.com/alg0 Palestinian man fatally shot by Israeli forces in West Bank Israeli security forces fatally shot a Palestinian civilian on Thursday, according to the Palestinian Authority Health Ministry.The ministry did not give any details about the victim, but said "a civilian was killed by Israeli forces" after being shot in the neck in Kifl Haris, a village in the governorate of Salfit. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/palestinian-shot-dead-israel-forces-west-bank Demo in Duisburg against Turkish occupation attacks Democratic Kurdish Community Center (DTKM), the (German Federation of Workers from Turkey (TİF) and the Federation of Migrant Workers in Germany (AGİF) promoted a demonstration in Duisburg city in protest at the Turkish state’s occupation attacks and massacres that target the Kurdish people in various parts of Kurdistan. https://anfenglishmobile.com/news/demo-in-duisburg-against-turkish-occupation-attacks-45198 OECD pushes for cuts in assistance for jobless What “mutual obligation” means in practice is that unemployed workers must accept whatever job is available, no matter the pay level or the danger to their health, or have their benefits cut off. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/07/09/oecd-j09.html Updated Species Extinction List Signals 'Urgent Action Needed to Save Life on Earth' The U.S.-based Center for Biological Diversity warned Thursday of the "urgent action needed to save life on Earth" in response to a new global assessment revealing that nearly 27% of over 120,000 analyzed plant and animal species are now threatened with extinction. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/09/updated-species-extinction-list-signals-urgent-action-needed-save-life-earth

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/QTDDTOT/ PART VI

Since the last one hit 500 posts, here's Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread: Part Six My question: The phrase "dictatorship of the proletariat" sounds off-putting to some people trying to get into leftism, how can I explain what it actually means? Previous archived /QTDDTOT/ threads: >>548092

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>He hasn't joined his local DSA, SRA, IWW or is invested in local politics. Explain yourself anon.

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United States Politics - /USApol/

FRATERNAL RIOT PORN WATCHING AND FRIENDLY CIRCLEJERK HERE: https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchanalt Thread theme: FREE RASHID BASARA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWyB447vNjg 100,000 deaths edition https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ What's Next: Democratic National Convention - August 17th Republican National Convention - August 24th Ongoing - Democratic veepstakes Now with livestreams! CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFE Last thread >>373171

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What would you say was the finest hour in communist history?

Imo it's a toss up between >Victory at Stalingrad >February Revolution >Battle of Berlin >Battle of Dien Bien Phu >Birth of the First International >Founding of the Rainbow Coalition

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What do you guys think about political tests such as leftist values or 8 values. Also what is the fundamental difference between orthodox and ML.

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What is idpol? Part 2

The last idpol thread died, so it must be remade. Discuss what is idpol and what isn't. As a starting point, here's a recent video that gets at a fundamental philosophical distinction. Towards a materialist definition of idpol https://youtu.be/wTErhg5y9ys The Left is often charged with practicing identity politics. But the opposition between Right and Left is actually an opposition between identity and universality. By looking at how identity functions, the stakes of this opposition will come into focus.

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>William James Sidis (/ˈsaɪdɪs/; April 1, 1898 – July 17, 1944) was an American child prodigy with exceptional mathematical and linguistic skills. He is notable for his 1920 book The Animate and the Inanimate, in which he postulates the existence of dark matter, entropy, and the origin of life in the context of thermodynamics. Sidis was raised in a particular manner by his father, psychiatrist Boris Sidis, who wished his son to be gifted. Sidis first became famous for his precocity and later for his eccentricity and withdrawal from public life. Eventually, he avoided mathematics altogether, writing on other subjects under a number of pseudonyms. He entered Harvard at age 11 and, as an adult, was claimed to have an extremely high IQ, and to be conversant in about 25 languages and dialects. Some of these claims have not been verified, but many of his contemporaries, including Norbert Wiener, Daniel Frost Comstock and William James, supported the assertion that he was extremely intelligent. >In 1919, shortly after his withdrawal from law school, Sidis was arrested for participating in a socialist May Day parade in Boston that turned violent. He was sentenced to 18 months in prison under the Sedition Act of 1918 by Roxbury Municipal Court Judge Albert F Hayden. Sidis' arrest featured prominently in newspapers, as his early graduation from Harvard had garnered considerable local celebrity status. During the trial, Sidis stated that he had been a conscientious objector to the World War I draft, was a socialist, and did not believe in a god like the "big boss of the Christians," but rather in something that is in a way apart from a human being.[10][11] He later developed his own libertarian philosophy based on individual rights and "the American social continuity".

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unmoderated spaces and alt tech

Will any space on the internet that doesn't have strong moderation (ex: 8chan) eventually devolve into cheese pizza and fascist shitposting? Is there any way to resolve this problem without resorting to censorship? If the only people willing to use alternative tech platforms are the people banned from mainstream platforms, will alt tech only be made of these types of people forever? Is there any way to break up the facebook/insta/twitter/etc. monopolies at all?

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On unity, recent events and the rise of left-conservativism

For just over a decade I have watched the American far-left develop and change. At first from a distance in a puny conservative backwater, reading of past revolutionary heroes and being active on the old Revleft forum learning directly from guys like Ismail or Rafiq. When I got older I went to the city and joined social democratic orgs, rubbed shoulders with anarchists, amassed a pretty huge shelf of pamphlets and books from useless dysfunctional parties and even got swept up in a riot when the Nazis went marching. I was a member of Redneck Revolt and saw first hand just how "redneck" these urbanite hipsters really were. I have more or less lived what I thought it meant to be a revolutionary in my early teens but my understanding of these things has developed over the years and I wish to share some general thoughts here on /leftypol/ as it is clear most social media platforms do not lend themselves to this sort of honest good faith discussion. In 2011 "left unity" was a concept people considered very important. The USSR was gone. Occupy was here. We had no powerful foreign backing. No vanguard to unify people and enforce discipline. If you called yourself a "leftist" that was good enough but you had to dance over eggshells not to offend your fellow "leftists". This was around the time tumblr lib-styled identity politics were becoming culturally mainstream. You couldn't say your boss was a fat sack of shit because that "harmed the body image of fat people everywhere" and you couldn't say it was retarded to just go fight the cops without a reason because "you're insulting the differently abled and also you're a cop sympathizer!" I stuck with this shit for many years, sacrificed many of my free hours outside work and study. I had burning overwhelming conviction that among these new left weirdos there must surely be a few who possessed the necessary leadership qualities to make the others grow up, work hard and give everything they have in service of revolution. I was very naive then. As the years dragged on I drifted more towards left-conservative circles and developed pretty antagonistic relations with these social-democrats and anarchists who once seemed so knowledgeable and in-control of their lives. Old school eastern European MLs knew what was going wrong in America. Comrades from Asia, Latin America, Africa and the Middle East all seemed to implicitly grasp that the imperial core is degenerating under the leadership of Trump. New cracks are showing daily both in our political institutions as well as the literal physical roads and sidewalks we tread upon. There are race riots and retaliatory murders for the race riots. The liberal media is actively encouraging them in hopes of dethroning Trump come November and somehow restoring order under Biden. I think that people like Caleb Maupin or Angela Nagle, Amber Frost, Matt Christman, Michael Parenti or Adolph Reed understand the historical and economic foundations of capitalism in the western world well enough to help formulate useful theories as we forge onward into a terrifying and uncertain future. The ideological synthesis I have reached from these experiences and through these teachers does not win me friends with the new left. As Nagle put in one of her most recent articles: >The liberal faction claims Bernie’s defeat as evidence of the failure of Marxist class politics, while writers at “movement” organs like Jacobin magazine retort that the Left’s visions of class war were such a threat that its triumph was inevitably thwarted by the elite corporate Democratic establishment. Both of these are based on the delusional premise that the Left in 2020 was a tribune of the material interests of the American working class. To restore the left to its more conservative working class roots and take our movement back from these insufferable "professional activist" libs will be a difficult multi-decade venture and we are unfortunately running short on time due to climate change among about 20 other potential apocalyptic happenings that will ensure barbarism triumphs over socialism. I ain't here to tell you how to do it. Only that it is the most pressing issue of our time and that we need new heroes to rise to this occasion.

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What happens to me after the revolution?

Newbie here, beginning to learn about leftist ideology and reading things from Lenin and John Reed to pass the time at work. From what I've read so far I guess me and my family would be considered petite-bourgeoisie? We're upper middle class and own a small shop. I'm on board with certain socialist policies, including the proletarian ownership of the means of production, but the redistribution of wealth is a scary concept to me. I know the fat cat bourgeoisie could easily do without their mansions and millions of dollars, but what about me, and my family's nice house? Stalin exiled or killed thousands of Ukranian peasants in the 1930s by branding them as kulaks. Most of these families were considered "better off" just because they had a cow and other families didn't, or because they were able to hire some farmhands to help with the harvest; their property was auctioned off to the village and they were forced to leave. I think what keeps most people from embracing socialism is the fear that they'll become the next enemy. Dekulakzation showed us that this can happen to even some of the poorest people. In America many people are, like myself, middle class, although that number is shrinking. Can I expect to have my home turned into a communal living apartment? Will I be sent to Gulag?

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Alright. What's the most successful example of socialism in history?

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>current year >still not googling bookchin Take the green pill anon

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Can anyone red pill me on the 10 planks of the communist manifesto? How can there be progressive income tax in a socialist society for example?

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Operation Twitter Net

I have a simple operation to expand our reach and get our good word out. If you do not have one already, make a burner twitter and post it here. If you already have a political twitter also post it here, we can all follow each other and boost each others posts. I'm not saying we can suddenly take over twitter but its good to have these networks so if they grow they could be useful, for propaganda dissemination for example, or take target enemies. So this is half that, half another place we can get together on line and talk shit. We can lampoon twitter goons together. I have made a burner twitter its: @hegemonalisa Make your own twitter and add it here, post your own here as well. We can start a network. It also means we can all boost good content. Oh and if you are gonna come here saying something like "this is useless don't bother" you are a wrecker. Its a simple excerise to expand our reach a little. Nothing bad can come from it. Anybody engaging in this would be shitposting anyway, because we are all here to shitpost. Yes, we should also be organising in real life, but at the end of the day, we all do spend time shitposting, so might as well make the most of it. If you don't want to take part, don't. Don't come in demoralising and complaining. Not everything is about you.

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>low key anti-communist when it comes to real-existing socialist states >books he writes aren't actually about what's in the title >"communism for me today means moderate social democracy" >hurr durr everything is about sex >never sources his falsifiable claims outside of "my friends tell me" >"China's neo-colonialism is worse than Western neo-colonialism" >gets asked a complex question, answers with le funny anecdote from Yugoslavia >a Žižekian analysis of Scooby Doo Why is this guy celebrated here? Seems like a left-wing psychoanalytical version of Steven Pinker. I think he's largely a charlatan.

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what do the german anons here think of the german democratic republic ?

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When do the real corona/recession related happenings start?

what do you think they will be and when? Post predictions and screencap.

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The Pizza Man

I just want to know how in the fuck this liberal motherfucker managed to climb the ranks of the Soviet government, effectively be one its president, and undermine the whole regime in a matter of 5 years. Like, it's so unbelievably hard to get a mild socdem in power here in the dictatorship of capital, so how in the world is somebody as counterrevolutionary as Gorbachev able to do it and collapse the USSR practically overnight? Surely in the dictatorship of the proletariat it should be equally as hard if not harder for a liberal to become president right? I mean, it's as unthinkable as a communist becoming president of the United States. And even then, shouldn't there be massive institutional pressure to keep him from fucking up the country and reintroducing private property relations? I just feel like the USSRs downfall was so unwarranted and preventable that its unthinkable for me that it just fell apart over night just because some liberal opportunist managed to climb the ladder of the party. By the mid 1980s, the USSR was economically very strong and an industrial powerhouse. How in the world did it just get eviscerated practically overnight like that?

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JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP

Hong Kong: hundreds arrested as security law comes into effect Teenager waving independence flag among those held as thousands take to the streets >More than 370 protesters in Hong Kong have been arrested as police fired teargas, pepper spray and water cannon at thousands of people protesting against a national security law imposed by Beijing. >The extent of Beijing’s mandate was made clear as full details of the law were released late on Tuesday, giving authorities sweeping powers to crack down on dissent and allowing China new levels of control over the semi-autonomous territory. >On Wednesday, the 23rd anniversary of the handover from Britain to China and the first day under the new law, Hong Kong’s chief executive, Carrie Lam, and government dignitaries from the city and Beijing drank champagne in celebration. Lam called th law “the most important development in relations” between Hong Kong and China since the 1997 handover. >By the afternoon, thousands of people had taken to the streets of Causeway Bay and Wanchai in defiance of protest bans. Police were seen pinning protesters to the ground, shooting pepper balls at people who heckled them, and targeting journalists with water cannon and rounds of pepper spray. >Police said 10 of the arrests were for offences related to the new security law, including holding signs or flags advocating for Hong Kong independence. Of those arrested, one was a 15-year-old girl who was waving a Hong Kong independence flag. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/01/hong-kong-protesters-arrested-as-security-law-comes-into-effect

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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

Part 2 Pandemic Edition Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. If there’r still dozens of us! Kiwis are welcome! Last thread. https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/82372.html http://archive.is/0NhJH

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If he wins again will america collapse by itself

Trump is by far the most anti-imperialist american president. Practically gave syria to assad, fucked up the venezuela and north korea. Somehow made iran hate america and israel even more and made them resume their nuclear program. Fucked up the american war on 5g against China making tech multinationals panic everywhere. Israel is now looking to cuck to China despite the fact that they will never hold as much influence over it compared to the US since China hates western infiltrators and will never be able to have their own AIPAC within china. Is it over for the west bros? Should we want him to win again or is there no chance now?

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Why not Bitchute?

>Only platform that won't censor political opponents >Dominated by reactionaries and Fascists *for now* >A good time to exploit the shortcomings of YouTube >If it can be taken over by Fascists, it can be /colonized/ by revolutionaries >Literally nothing to lose and everything to gain Why are we not considering uploading videos or using Bitchute? Breadtube on YouTube is no more than socdem paradise, and currently Bitchute, a non censorious platform for hosting videos on anything from flat Earth to cooking, is dominated by Fascists, hence pushing people away from using the only viable good YouTube alternative. I don't see why we shouldn't be adapting this platform and defeating and triggering Fascists on the platform.

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Is Vladimir Putin Preferable to Russian Opposition?

Can Russian and other comrades give heir insight whether or not there are any good chances that the Russian opposition could provide a better alternative to Putin? What is most likely to happen after Putin and/or is the whole of Russian opposition just pro western liberals that would just turn Russia into a woke capitalist state minus the active support of third world countries?

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Commies destroy culture?

What do you think about most retarded argument that leftists destroy culture?

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RUSSIAN THREAD

Не нашёл - создал! Ну что там по поправкам: кто за бойкот и кто против? Каналы: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYDuWqDwzAFG4xrI5uJEWfw - РабКор - канал главного марксиста всея Руси Бориса «Каги» Кагарлицкого. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDqwBnBsFWxFj0ABSbE2Kvw - Николай Платошкин - самый энергичный и брутальный персонаж левой политической сцены в России. Сторонник активных избирательных компаний и узник совести. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2qoLqo8RuV4P_88yhHCZIg - Константин Сёмин - журналист, очень сильно разочаровавшийся в Путине и его режиме. Теперь он коммунист, вскрывающий и освещающий проблемы современной капиталистической России. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Cap1xVy2waDXfzM5ka6lg - Простые числа - канал Олега Комолова, где он популярно освещает вопросы экономики. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnqDsesb_BvX7kQZto7vTBw - New Deal- канал популяризатора полиэтокономии и ММТ Даниила Григорьева. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3VDbjQ1hnY4zSRHgAfAK-A - Плохой Сигнал он же Tubus Show он же Егор Иванов- историк-любитель, скрупулёзно и достоверно разбирающий антисоветскую пропаганду. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_LYRUJzBfh-mvU14xCNMw - Вестник Бури - канал интернет журнала. Лицо канала и журнала- Андрей Рудой, учитель, профсоюзный деятель, агитатор и пропагандист. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf8mmFOzEIIHiJhaTpamZYA - Вестник Бури Originals - Даниил Тишкун, контент тот же - по простому о марксизме и коммунизме, роликов поменьше. Объединяет их с Андреем работа на онлайн журнал с общим названием.

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Conservatives not liking the word "bruh"

once I decided to venture to the place where intelligence goes to die, the R/The_Donald discord server. in which I saw a post that I thought was very much idiotic, I don't remember the post itself.I decided to react to that post in the most reasonable way possible by simply posting "bruh", the conservatives went into a huff about the post, said it was a word white folk use to pretend to be black folk. I believe they were projecting their insecurities upon me. I was unaware that conservatives had such an issue with the advancement of dialects along with slang terms before my visit. has anyone else had moments in which something similar with conservatives happened

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/IG/ - Internet General

Discuss e-celebs, lefty youtube, twitter, twitch, etc.

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Hinterlands : America's New Landscape on Class and Conflict

Anybody else read this? Thoughts?

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Do you think there are communists within the US ranks in the military, CIA and FBI, etc...

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The beginnings of our new leftypol project

Hello everyone, we have received the results of our project proposal topic, and I'm delighted to announce that we are teaming up with 'leftypedia' to deliver our planned 'argument/talking point resource' idea. In case you don't know, leftypedia is the current version of the old abandoned 'marxistpedia' which was a project started by leftypol users back in the day, so I think this is sort of like a homecoming in a way. https://leftypedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Anyway, if you have a look at the leftypedia site you might be able to tell that they have a much more formal and 'encyclopedic' tone than what we're planning, just like wikipedia, but the admin is going to create a separate 'category' for our new content that will be called something like 'rhetoric: topic' rather than just 'topic', this will also feature on the frontpage much like the encyclopedic content. As a tenplate, I'd like you to feast your eyes on these pages which someone on leftypedia already made (albeit only on their personal userspace for now). https://leftypedia.org/wiki/User:Anarcho-Bolshevik/compendium I'd like to ask if anyone can come up with a slightly more catchy name for our new section than 'rhetoric', cause that sounds a bit cumbersome to me even though I came up with it, so yeah, open to suggestions. So, since that isn't implemented yet, I'd like you all to try familiarise yourselves with the site for now, maybe take a look at the articles that are already there and improve some of them if you feel able. Unfortunately the site currently has only edit by approval so you will have to wait for any changes you make to be approved, this is because of a persistent spambot problem and I hope that we will be able to work out something to change this to normal editing as on wikipedia and the like, please just bear with it for now. If you have an answer to a 'common question', or you have an effortpost you'd like to archive and save, then please post it in this topic for now so that we can work on it together until we can figure out how to categorise our new section of the site. Thanks for your attention! EDIT: I've now got admin permissions on leftypedia, so I can create pages and approve edits directly. If you want to use the site I recommend you create a user account, which I can then approve once you make a productive edit (to distinguish from spambots), then you won't have to wait for approval anymore and can create articles yourself. Or, just ask me and I can create an article for you if you're desperate to make one as your first edit. Thanks guys, I hope we can make this project cool together! t. Caballo

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Native tribal leaders are calling for the removal of Mount Rushmore

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/cheyenne-river-sioux-tribe-mount-rushmore-trnd/index.html >The chairman of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe is calling for the removal of the Mount Rushmore National Memorial, arguing that it is carved in an area that is considered sacred land to Natives. >"Nothing stands as a greater reminder to the Great Sioux Nation of a country that cannot keep a promise of treaty then the faces carved into our sacred land on what the United States calls Mount Rushmore," said Harold Frazier, chairman of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe in South Dakota, where the memorial is located. is this removing of statues and memorials a good thing or just radlib and ethnonationalist pseudo activism?

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Stalin: >ruled for 25 years over a territory of 22,402,200 km2 >population under his rule: 150million in 1927 - 196million before WW2 >average population number under his rule: 173 000 000 >3.3 million excess deaths under his rule (executions, gulags, etc. not counting the holo and the domor) >math: 173,000,000 / 3,300,000 = 52.42 Every 52th citizen died under Stalin. >Time And Territory Adjusted Excess Deaths (TATAED - a term I just made up, measured in metric units of "horror") >math: (every citizen dieded + time) * horror constant [100,000] / territory = (25+52) * 100,000 / 22,402,200 = 0.3437 TATAED: 0.34 horror, or 34 centihorror Anarchist Catalonia: >(un)ruled for 3 whole years over a territory of 32,108 km2 >average population under their (un)rule: 2.8million >excess deaths (executions, gulags, etc.) between 38000 and 72344, average: 55000 >math: 2,800,000 / 55,000 = 50.9 Every 51th citizen died under anarchism. >Time And Territory Adjusted Excess Deaths: (3+51)*100000/32,108 = 168.1823 TATAED: 168.18 horror, or 1.6 hectohorror >Stalin TATAED / Catalan TATAED = 168.18 / 0.34 = 494.64 QED: Anarchist Catalonia was 495 times more horrific than Stalin's USSR. BRB, I'm off to measure the Workers Sent to Space (WS2S) to population ratio...

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what's leftypol ideology, and what ideology do you dislike the most?

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reddit banned moretankiechapo

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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

A general thread for all China related discussion

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What does Zizek mean by don't act just think? Its his job to think. Its the same with Chomsky. He made a whole documentary criticizing american economic policy and ended it with we should seek to dismantle unjustified power structures. How is that helpful? I have more respect for Cockshott than I do to this tool, atleast he proposes something.

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OPERATION

ITT: We organize an event to try to get Steven Pinker banned from twitter by mass reports. There are two fronts in this battle, one is the leftists, who should hate Pinker on principle. The other side is the right wingers, who should hate him for being a pedo apologist and a friend of Bill Gates. The attachment is the prototype of the right wing side propaganda. The event is scheduled July 2, 2020. That is a week from now. Steven Pinker is one of Bill Gates best friends. With this vaccine shit, Bill Gates is on the right wing's radar. Recently, "Filthy Rich" came out on Netflix, meaning that normies are now well aware of Eptstein's crimes. Recently the Milwaukee police were caught red-handed in a pedophile ring. So that too is on everyone's mind. Now hear me out. With our collective autism and our influence outside bunkerchan, we can make this into a real thing. Remember that we do have influence, and that "epstein didn't kill himself" was a super huge meme on both sides of the political spectrum. OPERATION: PINKER STINKER Formerly, Operation Porky Sweat We make a huge coordinated effort to cancel Steven Pinker on twitter. Here's the plan: 1. Set a date. 2. Contact every single leftist org, tell them to help out in cancelling Steven Pinker. If they are a good leftist org, they will know him and hate his guts. Otherwise, explain that he's an important neoliberal apologist and defended Epstein in court. 3. Contact QBoomers, tell them about the plan. Tell them Pinker is best friend of Epistein AND Bill Gates. Bill Gates knows that his best friend defended a pedo. They will schizo the rest of the details. 5. Make memes/propaganda in preparation of the event. Mix in the implication that the ruling class is filled with pedophiles. Just for lulz. Make the implication that police are mini-porkies, tie it in with the Milwaukee police pedo ring. 6. On the day of the event, Pinker is revealed as a pedo apologist, and Bill Gates as a friend of one (with "is he a pedo too???" implications). 7. Porky sweats.

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How to Twitter

Which twitter handles are good for lefties to be following? Which big twitter accounts are sympathetic to extreme lefty stuff and/or are fairly responsive to followers? Thank You Please also general thread for improving /leftypol/ broader online reach Whose got sockpuppets? We can all follow each other etc

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How were the 1980s compared to the 2020s?

Were they better? I really can't imagine the 80s being any worse. Honestly I can't imagine most years after 1945 being much worse. Was listening to 80s music when I considered this Were the 2010s-2020 just the 80s' shittiness on steroids?

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Sino-Soviet Split

Why did it happen?

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OC Thread 5.0

New thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share. Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made. Archived Thread : >>8622 https://leftypics.booru.org/

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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees

Második felvonás!

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The End of American Hegemony?

China has just called their bluff.

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Militarism

Why does modern left hates military?

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The Great Internet Purge

>Leaks showing collaboration between social media sites and law enforcement during protests >reddit banning "extremist" subs >Internet Archives being targeted for "copyright" infrigement >Feds trying to kill encryption >Twitch apparently censoring >Youtube targeting "extremist" youtube channels >Twitter doubling down on "fact checking" and censorship We have for a long time, been aware of most of these things, but it seems as though the Great Internet Purge has decisively begun. The bar for what is considered "extremism" has been progressively lowered over the past few years, and privacy rights/surveillance has. Anarchism, Socialism, and Communism are all being put into the same category as fascism and white supremacy now, as expected. Over the past few years, I have always been against censorship of the fascists online because I knew it would one day be applied to the left, and what is happening now is exactly that. The timing and context of these happenings make it almost totally apparent that this is all coordinated; covid also seems to be very convenient for them as well. This is a coup by the tech companies/establishment to censor any dissent online, specifically on platforms that occupy a huge space in public discourse. The only question that remains is the question of what is to be done. Should we simply find and promote alternative platforms, or start using TOR, dark web platforms, and/or other decentralized networks? Discuss. Also everybody needs to seriously reconsider their OPSEC or lack thereof. VPNs, proxies, and TOR should be allowed here honestly.

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Leftypol Content Cheka 2.0 /Glowy Watch/

And we are back after last thread got buried. In light of recent advances in proletarian struggle and the accompanying recent grifting attempts from outside forces, I'm reinstating the thread to assist in analyzing, quarantining and moderating grifters and bad faith actors. Report attempts at grifting and derailing discussion. Shame and track for b& if they make ground. Happy posting.

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#BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein confidante, British socialite and heiress Ghislaine Maxwell, has been arrested by the FBI https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ghislaine-maxwell-arrested-jeffrey-epstein-aide/2495762

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Name one thing he did wrong.

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INTERNET ARCHIVE "WAYBACK MACHINE" GOING DOWN

This is not a drill, save what you can NOW.

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Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave

>American attempts to deliver a pizza

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ITT: leftypol funniest moments

not pictured because i don't have the screenshot: >that time anon made a post about trump being grown in a vat in somewhere france by the situationist to tank the us empire

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bernie

I'm still not over it CAME SO FAR

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Universal basic income

I'm curious to see some of the opinions here on ubi. Who supports and doesn't support it and why? It's a point of contention for me, since it seems pretty obviously to be an appeasement to the proletariat and a way to maintain income for capitalists, but I also support doing what we can to help the working class. It's also hard to get a straight answer on how well it worked in Finland.

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why the fuck alt right loves russia

what is the main reason these filthy right wing extremists love russia so much?because they helped trump to come in power?or for support of monarchist scum named romanov?

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Is Star Wars creating generations of radicals?

I've been trying to watch all of Star Wars in order and right now I'm on the animated series 'Rebels' and I got to say this stuff is amazing propaganda. The main characters are essentially terrorists, running around blowing up random empire stuff. Clone wars was surprisingly very political. Theres at least 65,000 star wars fans in the USA dedicated enough to show up to a 2019 convention. Why don't we take a page from that ukrainian soccer fan club turned military wing and mobilize 'The Rebels' We can probably even get John Boyega to join the ranks. Maybe we should use a lot of laser pointers too. Maybe it would just be helpful to use Star Wars to educate people on theory. >It might be easier to unite a preexisting fanbase under leftism than create a new group probably some other fanbases we can hijack too

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On unity, recent events and the rise of left-populism

For just over a decade I have watched the American far-left develop and change. At first from a distance in a puny conservative backwater, reading of past revolutionary heroes and being active on the old Revleft forum learning directly from guys like Ismail or Rafiq. When I got older I went to the city and joined social democratic orgs, rubbed shoulders with anarchists, amassed a pretty huge shelf of pamphlets and books from useless dysfunctional parties and even got swept up in a riot when the Nazis went marching. I was a member of Redneck Revolt and saw first hand just how "redneck" these urbanite hipsters really were. I have more or less lived what I thought it meant to be a revolutionary in my early teens but my understanding of these things has developed over the years and I wish to share some general thoughts here on /leftypol/ as it is clear most social media platforms do not lend themselves to this sort of honest good faith discussion. In 2011 "left unity" was a concept people considered very important. The USSR was gone. Occupy was here. We had no powerful foreign backing. No vanguard to unify people and enforce discipline. If you called yourself a "leftist" that was good enough but you had to dance over eggshells not to offend your fellow "leftists". This was around the time tumblr lib-styled identity politics were becoming culturally mainstream. You couldn't say your boss was a fat sack of shit because that "harmed the body image of fat people everywhere" and you couldn't say it was retarded to just go fight the cops without a reason because "you're insulting the differently abled and also you're a cop sympathizer!" I stuck with this shit for many years, sacrificed many of my free hours outside work and study. I had burning overwhelming conviction that among these new left weirdos there must surely be a few who possessed the necessary leadership qualities to make the others grow up, work hard and give everything they have in service of revolution. I was very naive then. As the years dragged on I drifted more towards left-populist circles and developed pretty antagonistic relations with these social-democrats and anarchists who once seemed so knowledgeable and in-control of their lives. Old school eastern European MLs knew what was going wrong in America. Comrades from Asia, Latin America, Africa and the Middle East all seemed to implicitly grasp that the imperial core is degenerating under the leadership of Trump. New cracks are showing daily both in our political institutions as well as the literal physical roads and sidewalks we tread upon. There are race riots and retaliatory murders for the race riots. The liberal media is actively encouraging them in hopes of dethroning Trump come November and somehow restoring order under Biden. I think that people like Caleb Maupin or Angela Nagle, Amber Frost, Matt Christman, Michael Parenti or Adolph Reed understand the historical and economic foundations of capitalism in the western world well enough to help formulate useful theories as we forge onward into a terrifying and uncertain future. The ideological synthesis I have reached from these experiences and through these teachers does not win me friends with the new left. As Nagle put in one of her most recent articles: >The liberal faction claims Bernie’s defeat as evidence of the failure of Marxist class politics, while writers at “movement” organs like Jacobin magazine retort that the Left’s visions of class war were such a threat that its triumph was inevitably thwarted by the elite corporate Democratic establishment. Both of these are based on the delusional premise that the Left in 2020 was a tribune of the material interests of the American working class. To restore the left to its more populist working class roots and take our movement back from these insufferable "professional activist" libs will be a difficult multi-decade venture and we are unfortunately running short on time due to climate change among about 20 other potential apocalyptic happenings that will ensure barbarism triumphs over socialism. I ain't here to tell you how to do it. Only that it is the most pressing issue of our time and that we need new heroes to rise to this occasion.

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I just want to hear people's theories

Ok, so I consider myself a Libertarian Socialist at the moment and I really want to hear more diverse leftist talk. It's hard to hear a lot of different takes in the bubble I'm in a lot of the time. What are the main goals for "leftists"? How do I best argue against right wing talking points? What are your generally leftist ideologies and theories?

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Transition into socialism, The Great Filter.

The Great Filter What is the Great Filter? Well to first understand the Great Filter one has to understand the Fermi Paradox. Have you ever wondered why were so alone in the universe? Our universe is over 13.7 billion years old, there are billions of galaxies in the universe and in these galaxies billions of stars. And from what are observations tell us is that there is at least one planet orbiting around each of these stars. Our latest calculations tell us that there are around 40 billion earth sized planets in our galaxy alone. Scientist speculate even with subluminal space craft it would take at most a million years, which is a blink in the eye in the grand scheme of the universe, for advanced civilization to colonize their galaxy. Yet we see nothing out there. One of the solutions to the Fermi Paradox is the idea of the filter. The idea is that there is a point in the development of a planet’s, with life, history i.e., from nonliving things -> single cells -> multicellular -> intelligent life -> advanced civilization, where the overwhelming majority of these planets do not make it past this point. Transition into Socialism The phrase “Socialism or Barbarism” from Rosa Luxemburg rings truer today than it has at any time in the past. With the threat of nuclear war as the world inches closer and closer to a WWIII, and with the fast-approaching climate disaster, the future looks bleak. With are only hope being socialism. How does this play in with the Great Filter? I suggest that many past civilizations have come across this point and have wiped themselves out because they are unable to transition into socialism. I personally hope that this isn’t true and that if there is a great filter we have already past it.

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Bookchin Thread 2: B& again edition :(

This is the thread for discussion about Bookchin's works and Libertarian Municipalism and related tendencies. Libertarian municipalism represents a serious, indeed a historically fundamental project, to render politics ethical in character and grassroots in organization. It is structurally and morally different from other grassroots efforts, not merely rhetorically different. It seeks to reclaim the public sphere for the exercise of authentic citizenship while breaking away from the bleak cycle of parliamentarism and its mystification of the “party” mechanism as a means for public representation. In these respects, libertarian municipalism is not merely a “political strategy.” It is an effort to work from latent or incipient democratic possibilities toward a radically new configuration of society itself-a communitarian society oriented toward meeting human needs, responding to ecological imperatives, and developing a new ethics based on sharing and cooperation. That it involves a consistently independent form of politics is a truism. More important, it involves a redefinition of politics, a return to the word’s original Greek meaning as the management of the community or polis by means of direct face-to-face assemblies of the people in the formulation of public policy and based on an ethics of complementarily and solidarity. In this respect, libertarian municipalism is not one of many pluralistic techniques that is intended to achieve a vague and undefined social goal. Democratic to its core and nonhierarchical in its structure, it is a kind of human destiny, not merely one of an assortment of political tools or strategies that can be adopted and discarded with the aim of achieving power. Libertarian municipalism, in effect, seeks to define the institutional contours of a new society even as it advances the practical message of a radically new politics for our day. Helpful texts: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-libertarian-municipalism-an-overview http://ocalanbooks.com/downloads/democratic-confederalism.pdf https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-listen-marxist

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Colour revolution happening in my country, Serbia.

What the fuck bros... Today I woke up just to learn that the opposition protesters almost sucessfuly stormed the parliament. This happened after 3 years of attempts by different far right ultra orthodox groups to topple the government. They have been staging unsuccessful protests the last few months even before corona but I thought that they were all larp. But today they actually spilled blood on the streets of Belgrade and there are rumors that some are dead. These opposition groups are now all united and they are composed of nationalists, clergy, antivaxxers, "citize patrols" (lynch mobs that attack migrants), and generally older people and impressionable youth. They constantly called for "toppling the Satanic government" and talked about hanging the president and all journalists that are on his side. They call everyone who supports the current Vučić government "bots" and threaten them with retribution once they come to power. They echoed many Qanon talking points and even called China a satanic entity.( the country that helped us the most and doesnt recognize rhe independence of kosovo and were our historical allies). This is the largest and most violent protest so far since the toppling of Milosević. The scenes mirror these times eerily. What the fuck. These parties were fairly fringe but since the pandemic they were sprung into the mainstream. I'm honestly afraid for my safety. This is not the first time this happened. What the fuck do I do? How do I defend myself if they install their theocratic dictatorship? Video: https://youtu.be/gliOjDhzCos Owerthrow of Milošević: https://youtu.be/bQqMOaKKI-U

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Decentralization as an ideological issue

I think in most cases, centralization vs decentralization is a purely administrative question, but I've noticed quite a lot of people who've latched on to decentralization as a sort of political good in its own right for its own sake, as something supposedly more democratic or non-hierarchical or organic than centralization. I find this strange because the United States is currently the world's greatest hegemonic power, and it provides a clear example of the problems with decentralization and debunks some of the claims about the supposed inherent nature of decentralized systems. Right off the bat, is the United States a more democratic, less hierarchical, more organic (or whatever other qualities decentralization is supposed to provide) society that unitary states like France or Denmark? I think the answer in all cases is an obvious and resounding "no." Further, decentralization has a ton of issues that the US serves as a prime example of. The US's decentralized federal system was more or less done for its own sake as a political expedient, not because the overwhelmingly Anglo-Protestant early Americans just couldn't have existed under the same set of laws. Under the Articles of Confederation, the "first constitution", the United States was a weaker union than the EU, each state being essentially its own country able to print its own currency, raise its own army, set its own trade policy, both with foreign countries and other states, had its own citizens, etc. This meant that each state had its own ruling cliques that needed to be placated if a genuine central government was going to be established, hence the federal system that granted these cliques a degree of autonomy within their own states (which would allow them to maintain their positions) and a more or less equal say in the federal government. It could be argued that the federal system also had some utility as the United States settled westward and new communities were able to effectively self-govern without needing to wait for edicts from the central government, but this was the real reason why the United States formed as a federal system. Decentralization basically for its own sake. The biggest problem with decentralization, and why it isn't desirable except in cases where autonomy is actually needed, is because of the massive administrative bloat it causes. Every single instance of administrative authority needs its own bureaucracy to administer to its own set of laws. If you have a million districts, then you need a million bureaucracies to administer the million different sets of laws and policies. And each level above these basic districts need their own bureaucracies on top of that. And God forbid you ever want to implement some kind of universal standard or oversight to something the lower administrations are supposed to be in charge of. In the US, we call this "marblecake" federalism, literally bureaucracies managing bureaucracies. The United States Department of Education, for instance, is a bureaucracy that manages bureaucracies that manage bureaucracies that manage bureaucracies that manage the actual schools. There's a good deal of irony that the United States government, which is one of the governments least involved in the running of day-to-day life, has one of the greatest numbers of employees. Decentralization is for when a number of administrative regions simply can't exist under the same set of laws or standards without causing problems, or a particular region actually requires its own autonomy. Decentralization for its own sake is a ridiculous farce.

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Why do right wingers always want to talk about Soviet gulags, which no longer exist, but never wanna talk about for profit private prisons?

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How to argue with nazis about Jewish role in Austro-hungary before nazism

I just need talking points. My rightoid friend send me this and i want to explain this to him so that he sees the class conflict, and not anything else. Thank you.

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Stalinist vs Trotskyists on Beuracratization

Do Stalinists reject the Trotskyist thesis on bureaucratic counter-revolution in the USSR on conceptual grounds or empirical grounds? If they reject it on conceptual grounds, what they are in essence saying is that the view entails a contradiction. That it is somehow impossible for a bureaucratic counter-revolution to have occurred. What would they assert is the contradiction entailed by the idea of bureaucratic counter-revolution in a worker's state? If they reject the view on empirical grounds, they are asserting that there exists evidence which disproves that a bureaucratic counter-revolution occurred in the USSR. What is the evidence they would marshal? And also, on this view, what would constitute evidence that a bureaucratic counter-revolution did in fact occur in some instance? Rejecting the thesis on empirical grounds is much more modest. It is an admission that, in theory, bureaucratization is possible, but it did not occur in this instance. I assume Stalinists reject the view on empirical grounds. I am most curious about what they would take to be evidence which would suggest bureaucratization occurred in some scenario. Personally, I see no issue with the theory on conceptual grounds and I am agnostic on the empirics.

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KANYE 2020 PLATFORM

IT'S OUT Kanye West details 2020 platform: Anti-vaccine, anti-abortion, pro-Wakanda, more https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2020/07/kanye-west-details-2020-platform-anti-vaccine-anti-abortion-pro-wakanda.html >Kanye West insists he’s serious about running for president, detailing his 2020 platform in a new interview with Forbes magazine. >The 43-year-old rapper told the publication that he no longer supports President Donald Trump — “I am taking the red hat off, with this interview” — and won’t vote for Joe Biden. West, who has famously worn a MAGA hat in the White House, still called Trump “special” and the “closest president we’ve had in years to allowing God to still be part of the conversation.” “I’m not saying Trump’s in my way, he may be a part of my way. And Joe Biden? Like come on man, please. You know? Obama’s special. Trump’s special. We say Kanye West is special. America needs special people that lead. Bill Clinton? Special. Joe Biden’s not special,” West told Forbes. >The Daily Beast reports West appeared to be most concerned with the U.S. response to the coronavirus pandemic. “It looks like one big mess to me,” West said. “I don’t like that I caught wind that (Trump) hid in the bunker.” West claimed he contracted Covid-19 in February but opposes vaccines, calling them “the mark of the beast.” His wife, reality TV star Kim Kardashian, has spoken several times about the family staying at home during the pandemic, but has never said anyone tested positive. >‘Ye offered further details of his 2020 platform, saying he’ll be running as a third party candidate under the Birthday Party “because when we win, it’s everybody’s birthday.” He also told Forbes that Elon Musk is advising him, his campaign slogan will be “YES!” and his running mate will be a preacher named Michelle Tidball. >He said he hasn’t developed a foreign policy yet, but is anti-abortion (”I am pro-life because I’m following the word of the bible”) and pro-Wakanda, the fictional country in Marvel’s “Black Panther.” “A lot of Africans do not like the movie and representation of themselves in... Wakanda,” he said. “But I’m gonna use the framework of Wakanda right now because it’s the best explanation of what our design group is going to feel like in the White House.” >The hip-hop star also denied that his White House bid is a publicity stunt to promote his upcoming album, promising to give it away for free, or his recently announced fashion collaboration with the Gap. “Like anything I’ve ever done in my life... I’m doing to win,” West said. >However, Billboard reports West launched his campaign too late to appear on the ballot as an independent candidate in at least six states, including New York and Texas. Political experts told the music publication that third-party candidates typically know they have little chance of winning, but run to draw attention to themselves, or to a cause they believe in. “To that extent that voters will vote for third-party candidates, given that this is perceived as an important election, even disgruntled voters might not be willing to throw their vote away,” said Robert Y. Shapiro, Wallace S. Sayre Professor of Government and Professor of International and Public Affairs in the Columbia University Department of Political Science. >West told Forbes he doesn’t mind if his campaign takes Black votes away from Biden, a Democrat, because it helps Trump. He also said he accepts that he might not win in November. “Let’s see if the appointing is at 2020 or if it’s 2024 — because God appoints the president. If I win in 2020 then it was God’s appointment,” West said. “If I win in 2024 then that was God’s appointment.”

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Translators Wanted! Traducteurs recherchés! Übersetzer gesucht!

If you know French or German, please contribute a chapter to /leftypol/'s first crowdsourced translation project! This project started on >>>/edu/840. The book is Karl Kautsky's history of the French Revolution, originally published as Die Klassengegensätze im Zeitalter der Französischen Revolution in 1889. Coming from the "Pope of Marxism", as Kautsky was then known, this text likely had an immense influence on Lenin and other revolutionaries of his day. It was approved by Engels himself, and may have been foundational in establishing the Marxist theory of bourgeois revolution, yet it has never been translated into English. The original German is available here: https://www.marxists.org/deutsch/archiv/kautsky/1908/frev/index.html and an old French translation is available here: https://www.marxists.org/francais/kautsky/works/1889/00/antagonismes-table.htm What makes this work especially good for us to translate is that it's relatively short - just around 60 pages in total, divided into 10 chapters. With each chapter being 5-7 pages each, it is conceivable to translate a chapter in one day's volunteer work. Comrade Akko has already translated the preface, and is working on chapter 1. That leaves 9 chapters to complete: Preface: Complete! Chapter 1: Second draft complete (French) Chapter 2: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English) Chapter 3: WIP (French) Chapter 4: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English) Chapter 5: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English) Chapter 6: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English) Chapter 7: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English) Chapter 8: Complete! (Copyrighted work, permission secured) Chapter 9: WIP (French) Chapter 10: If you don't speak French or German, you can still contribute! We need proofreaders for completed chapters, and historical experts to confirm / resolve contextual clues in the text. If we are able to complete this project, it will be uploaded to marxists.org under /leftypol/'s name, and maybe win us some name recognition from the broader left in the process. We can do this!

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If anyone can help me find this image I'd be grateful It was 2 drawings superimposed on one another. One of a scruffy man in a wifebeater, slouched in a computer chair, scrolling through a imageboard. The other, the same man, sitting in a smoking jacket in a well upholstered chair, reading a book that said (i remember this) in capital letters ŽIŽEK it was quite funny and i really want to find it again

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The Culturalization of the Left, or How Leftism Dies in the 21st Century

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/05/first-as-tragedy-then-as-farce/ >In the end, Bernie may well be the last domino to fall for the entire Cold War–era Left fusion of social democratic economics mixed with radical liberal culture wars. Upon the final suspension of his campaign, Sanders supporters and even Bernie himself declared with confidence that “our movement has won the ideological struggle.” But the point of his 2020 campaign was not merely to win some ill-defined “struggle” or “battle”—it was to win power. That endeavor was an unambiguous failure. Instead, it would appear that the sleepy and confused Joe Biden was the one who presented an ideological vision more in sync with the desires of the Democratic primary elec­torate. In so doing, he in fact won the “battle”—while the activist Left succeeded only in preserving its own moral vanity, thereby derailing the greatest electoral opportunity for major social democratic reform likely to be seen in a generation.

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White army descendants

The entire russian internet is being overwhelmingly dominated by monarchists or assholes who fought for tsar romanov.Ive seen it in few western far right praising imperial russia cuz it was no commie.why are these filthy monarchist subhumans trying to demolish soviet history?

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ITT: most retarded anticommunist "arguments"

For me as someone who lives in a post-Soviet country the most brainlet and anti-reality argument has got to be "COMMUNISM IS ANTI-CULTURE" My family still has shelves with 100s of books they got in the USSR, real books like obscure classical works or science ones. You CAN'T find most of them in stores anymore because they have been replaced with lowest common denominator schlock like 50 shades of grey or cheap fantasy novels. You have to go to a specialized library to find books you could buy at any bookstore in the USSR. Little surprise that the USSR used to be "the most reading country". Socialism built and supported theaters, museums, cinemas etc and most importantly it made them available to the entire population instead of a small leisurely elite. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to call the USSR the most cultured country in history if the criteria is the total number of people with access to "high culture" like classical music and theater. Don't even get me started on Soviet contributions to the art world like Prokofiev, Tarkovsky etc. Classical arts were preserved and promoted, folk culture was supported too. The only culture socialism "destroyed" was religion and culture of the ruling classes like decadent balls. That's what reactionaries truly bemoan. It doesn't matter that 99% of the population went from ignorant peasants to educated people who can appreciate intellectual and aesthetic pursuits, a few nobles couldn't have their shitty dances and lavish palaces all to themselves anymore, so CULTURE WAS LITERALLY DESTROYED!!11 You'd have to be completely ignorant of history and reality to say "socialism is anti-culture", or be a lying reactionary who by "culture" means "when you praise Jesus and kill nigs". It's especially annoying to hear this from Russian right-wing zoomers who know nothing but fortnite and low-brow americanized tv entertainment, and somehow blame socialism for this state of affairs instead of capitalist restoration.

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Capitalist "innovation"

Post them.

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Samurai thread

Was the Meiji restoration and "restoring power to the emperor" a good or bad thing in 18th century Japan for the peasants? It marked the upper class revolution that caused the samurai feudal system to transition into a capitalist system. (Which ultimately turned into a racist imperialist empire that tried to invade and oppress all of its neighbors in Asia in a sort of fascist system, and as Japan lost the war the people starved and suffered greatly.) I just found this photograph btw. Samurai didn't look nearly as impressive as I thought they would, and that hairdo is "objectively ugly." There were a lot of peasant revolutions/movements that tried to go against the samurai but they all ultimately failed so no one except historians talk about them. Unfortunately too, the people who study Japanese history appear to be mostly weebs who romanticize the samurai so much that you never get to hear about the peasents' movements.

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Honestly you have to hand it to the CIA. Identity politics doing exactly what it's supposed to do https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1503&v=VbJr2-55MVk&feature=emb_title

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Reading list for ABSOLUTE theorylets

A friend of mine asked me for a reading list, but the problem IS that he knows exactly ZERO theor: What should i suggest him to read to begin with?

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Donate to Ismail!

Ismail (the tankie guys with all the russian books on archive.org) just created a paypal donation page so that we could help him buy more books that can be scanned. Link to donate: https://paypal.me/pools/c/8qDNFdjxlh

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/DEBUNK/ GENERAL

Post right-wing/liberal memes, media, talking points, etc. that you want debunked

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Neoliberalism’s Skyscraper Obsession

Why are neoliberals obsessed with building skyscrapers?

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/Leftypol/ Memes

Lost my whole stash of old /leftypol/ memes from when we were still on 8chan help a comrade out and post some classic and quality memery. Especially lokking for some skellis and the .gif of Stalin firing a Minigun or something similiar. Will post what I collected since then. solidary greetings

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What does /leftypol/ think of Putin?

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/conspiracy/

What is a conspiracy theory you believe in? Or, alternatively: what is a popular conspiracy theory you think is bullshit?

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/dprk/ -- DPR Korea General

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
Archive of first ~500 posts on original thread:
https://archive.fo/pRkxK
Subsequent archives:
https://archive.fo/https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2265496.html
Related archives:
https://archive.fo/HbuXi
https://archive.fo/https://8ch.net/leftpol/res/36983.html

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/crisis/ General

DOW/Market Watch Thread
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.

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coronamerica

Why the FUCK is the US so bad at handling coronavirus?

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White Myths

>"What they call, “the black leadership,” does not exist. Let’s be serious: what they are talking about is nothing more than a figment of the white liberal imagination. That is, if these so-called black leaders even exist at all, then they can only be found shucking and jiving in a “woke” white person’s head. >Isn’t interesting how progressive whites seem to have a direct line of communication with black leaders, while everyone else in the street fails to suffer from the same delusional schizophrenia? What’s all the more odd is that the voices that they hear from these magical negroes always manage say the same things: “Everyone should peacefully protest on the sidewalk, because unmediated black rage makes others uncomfortable.” “Don’t strike back at that cop even if he wants to kill you and everyone you love.” “I know the manager follows black kids from aisle to aisle, but still, his store shouldn’t be looted.” In other words, the message relayed from the sounds on repeat in a white liberal’s head is to end the black revolt and conduct civil disobedience in a manner that is appropriate for Karen and Ethan, not Jamal and Keisha. >It is worthwhile to note that black people, themselves, never refer to any mythical black leadership. This is because we know, full and well, that all of our leaders, since Martin and Malcolm, have been killed. Even our potential leaders, like Trayvon and Tamir, are gunned down before they can share with us their vision. What’s more, if they are not brutally murdered, then they are locked away forever with Sundiata, Mutulu, and Mumia. That is, we know that if you speak with truth and move against oppression, then the only way to avoid the pig’s bullet or penitentiary, the modern-day cracker’s whip or plantation, is to go on the run like Assata Olugbala Shakur! In fact, any black person that says otherwise should be exposed for what he or she is: a poverty-pimp! >After half of century without a figurehead in the front, the black youth has shown the whole country that they are more than capable of setting their own path and directing their own iniatives. They have demonstrated to us a dynamism that can never be reduced to a homogenous mass following any one authoritative voice. Paradoxically, it is the entire spectrum of the black revolt in the streets that can be identified as leaderless “leaders,” since they have shown everyone else what it means to free yourself. >To paraphase James Baldwin’s still apt observation, we black people are more aware of the inner workings of our pale-face antagonists than they are of themselves. Consequently, the diagnosis of woke whitey’s psychological condition is quite simple: this James Earl Jones, Carl Winslow, or Rafiki from the Lion King voice, which bellows off the walls of their skull, is a defense mechanism against their inability to completely repress their own white superiority complex. What’s also abundantly clear is that the only way to fully work through this hang up is to gain even a small percent of the courage of a black adolescent and overcome their white guilt with a fist, a stone, and a Molotov cocktail. >– We Still Outside Collective" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOFmx8OUnTk&feature=emb_title P good stuff yeah? Thoughts?

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Things getting spicy in the Mediterranean??

In the last two years we had: -Assad winning the war in Syria but at the cost of letting a jihadi state be established in Idlib+Afrin+Al Bab -Lebanon spiraling into a unsolvable economic crisis -Lebanon pushing for partnership with Russia and China while Usa have made clear threats against them -Israel pushing for annexation of the West Bank -Turkish imperialism rising to prominence both in Syria and Libia -Libyan war escalating with direct intervention from Turkey and Egypt - GNA/Turkish deal for Economic Exclusive zones that threatens Italian and Greek bourgeoisie interests -Italy's ENI drilling activites getting blocked by Turkish ships in Cyprus -Italy and Greece signing a deal on their own EEZ that seems to suggest a future Anti-Turkey alliance -France pulling out of NATO naval operations in the Mediterranean, citing conflict with Turkey Is it just me or ALL those events seems like a prelude for something bigger?

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The New Communist Manifesto

Inspired by these posts: >>671954 >Fuck the communist manifesto. It's a meme book for larpers who already agree (or think they agree) with Marx. Instead start talking about "how hey, maybe the modern economy is a bit unstable, huh?", while also mentioning how social democracy always seems to fail. These small redpills are far better to convince anyone than "read my book that no one takes seriously". >I'd absolutely agree to all of that, but I'd add that Marxists of all stripes need a new manifesto entirely. Half of the Communist Manifesto is taken up with arguing against currents that don't meaningfully exist anymore, and the other half outlines a program intended specifically to turn 19th century England/Germany into 20th century England/Germany faster than the 100 years it would take for the capitalists to do it. ML(M) propaganda is also useless for this, since it's all aimed at a category of country that basically doesn't exist anymore (peasant economies in desperate need of industrialisation). >In any case, capitalism has long ago developed past the point where production for exchange choked on its own output. Globally, the capitalism lives solely based on life support provided by the state (military/government spending draining excess productivity, subsidies preventing price crashes, etc). A new and useful Manifesto would put forward a program aimed at transitioning global production away from commodity production and toward use-value production. >Off the top of my head I can think of a bunch of individual policies that might help that process along: a severe reduction in the working week and a sharp increase in the minimum wage to encourage labour automation, open borders to curtail wage differentials, maybe a UBI to decouple labour and consumption (though this one is debatable), converting price-controlled commodities (eg most agricultural staples) into free-consumption public goods, etc, etc. I'm sure there's a bunch more potential points we could add to a program, basically just take Marx's ideas in Critique of the Gotha Program and work backwards. The point is that the material conditions to support such a program definitely exist, we're not stuck in Marx's position of coming up with a program to get to the point where we can actually start moving toward communism. >If OP wants to do something useful with their polisci degree, they should write an updated version of the Manifesto. So what you put in the Communist Manifesto for 2020?

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anti-Americanism as an environmental project

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02024-6 >The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 led to a huge drop in greenhouse-gas emissions because the resulting economic crisis meant many people stopped eating meat. Politically collapsing the USA, by any means necessary, is probably the only way to avert climate catastrophe. Destroying the USA also removes the principal enemy of revolutionary politics. Discussing this policy or that technology is just expensive and unrealistic at this point. Remember, political collapse is free, because it involves destroying something, not creating something, and it doesn't even require the physical destruction of anything. Politically dissolving the Union would probably keep more oil in the ground than electrifying transport. A disorganised, Second American Civil War will also rapidly decrease the carbon footprint of the USA. Destroying the USA would also leave more of Earth's carbon budget to China, the world's largest Marxist power.

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North Korea Best Korea

I'm convinced that North Korea is the best country in the world and I want someone to show me the contrary.

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Anyone from Poland here? Who are you gonna vote for?

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Contemporary Marxism

Inspired by post by >>656234 on the trilogy of Imperialism. What other important contemporary updates to Theory or Organisation exist? I remember someone else also posted something on Michael Hudson a while back that would also fit within this vein.

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peak right wing

did the alt right peak in 2017/2018 with pic related? Ive noticed a lot of former fashies are going centrist or libertarian (ex: southern). Even the boogaloo thing is more libertarian than fash. Now theres a fascist to libertarian pipeline as they go crypto?

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How do porkies feel knowing that so long as workers exist so does the threat of socialism?

You think this thought has ever crossed their minds, at least some of them? The fact that unless they kill every last worker the threat of communist revolution will never truly die?

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Nationalism and Socialism

why is it whenever i mention that i'm a left-wing nationalist and socialist that libs always fucking jump to 'oh my god, you're a Nazi??!'. fucking exhausting trying to explain what national liberation and shit mean to these bitches.

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What do they mean by "Right-wing populism"?

Does it exist, how would you describe it

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/brg/ - Brazil General

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are lumpen useful?

is there any revolutionary potential in the lumpen? is there any point to their existence at all? bumplocked: crypto reactionary

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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism

Forse 8chan è definitivamente morto. Proprio pochi giorni dopo che stavo cominciando a pensare di ritornare a effortpostare, ecco che un paio di /pol/tardati ammeregani si danno allo sport preferito da quelle parti e ora quel sito sembra diventato la fonte di tutti i mali del mondo. Col risultato che hanno purgato anche il nostro bel filo. E vabè. Si chiude una porta, si apre un portone. Raccogliamoci qui e ricominciamo.

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Japanese Communist Party

Thoughts on the Japanese Communist Party? Are they real socialists? I've read that they believe in reformism; does anyone know if there are any real revolutionary Marxists in Japan?

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To what extent do yall think the superstructure influences the base?

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Have you guys heard of Anna Louis Strong?

She was a journalist who spent tons of time in the USSR and China and was wrote many books and other publications showing a positive view of both countries, she came to be incredibly respected by the chinese communist party, high ranking members begged her not to take herself off of life support when she died. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Louise_Strong

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Google the "Bonacci Case/CIA," and "Uethical Experimentation in the USA", wikepedia.The secret word is "MONEY". Secret-society Freemasonery is rampant in the CIA, FBI, and in the Government, both Canadian and USA. The CIA and political figures are getting paid large sums of money to target individuals, and use them as research guinea pigs. Public awareness is rising, and now citizens need to ask themselves, who is funding this war against humanity. My Country is being run by a worthless street punk, who is only worth a mere 1.2 M dollars,. Should the stock market collapse, he and his mother would be on social assistance. They would actually have to WORK for a living. God forbid. Then you would have to "Trust in God", and move to the USA (the hand that feeds you). Tired of your illegal attrocites, pedophilia, chemicals, nuclear gassing, and setting up innocent people, for most of my life. Intelligentsia, not very intelligent if a powerless individual was able to find out what self-loathing, backward, hillbilly, supremacist white trash is behind her tyrannical Nazi attrocities. Should there ever be a "World Order", I am sure that historically unevolved and uncivilized Countries would be sitting in back of the bus. Have a Great day! What is the secret password "MONEY" "Do what it takes, and do not get caught". You are getting caught, Da! So much for inteligenzia.

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Pigheadism: The U.S. Maoist Milieu & Their Problems

https://thelatefifinono.wordpress.com/2020/07/09/pigheadism-the-u-s-maoist-milieu-their-problems/ Reflections from a former Red Guards Kansas City member on their action against KCDSA in October 2019, and its aftermath.

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News 7/10/20

Bolivia: Interim President Áñez Tests Positive for COVID-19 Bolivia's de facto president Jeanine Áñez Thursday announced via her Twitter account that she had tested positive to COVID-19 while other members of her team are infected as well. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Bolivia-Interim-President-Anez-Tested-Positive-To-Covid-19-20200709-0012.html Petrol bombs and stun grenades exchanged as irate Greek protesters fight against bill to ban public gatherings Some 10,000 people had assembled to protest across the Greek capital. Shortly after 8.30pm local time, a group of some 200 agitators were gathered outside the parliament building in Syntagma Square, when all hell broke loose. https://on.rt.com/alfp French-backed security forces in the Sahel guilty of mass extrajudicial executions A Human Rights Watch report published yesterday provides evidence that Burkina Faso troops are carrying out mass extrajudicial executions of civilians as part of operations in the French-led war in the Sahel. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/07/10/burk-j10.html MLKP / KKÖ guerrillas: Fighting against the Turkish invaders MLKP / KKÖ guerrillas urged working women to expand the struggle against the colonial Turkish army that bombed the guerrilla fields, burned forests and villages, committed massacres without discrimination against women and children, and assassinated political leading women. https://anfenglishmobile.com/kurdistan/mlkp-kkOe-guerrillas-fighting-against-the-turkish-invaders-45142 Soldier slain, another wounded in Samar ambush by NPA rebels A soldier was killed while another was wounded after they were ambushed by members of the New People’s Army (NPA) in Motiong town, Samar on Monday, July 6. https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1303004/soldier-slain-another-wounded-in-samar-ambush-by-npa-rebels https://archive.is/cu2jv Power tussle in Nepal ruling party as China influence grows India had been a dominant force in Nepal until recently, when China’s involvement began to grow. Besides China’s investment in the building of airports, highways and hydro-power projects in Nepal, Chinese diplomats have worked to increase ties with Nepali political leaders. https://apnews.com/83ce7b35d56a8eb084470565bf939875 Italy's Right-Wing League Opens Office Near Old Communist HQ in Symbolic Move The right-wing League party, keen to present itself as the new defender of Italy's working class, will open an office this month on a highly symbolic street in Rome where the country's once-mighty Communist Party had its headquarters https://archive.is/wr5kj#selection-419.7-419.240 Lebanon's Hezbollah talks to government about Iran fuel idea Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, leader of the Iran-backed Hezbollah, said a “calm discussion” was underway with the Beirut government over the idea that would ease the pressure on Beirut’s hard currency reserves. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-lebanon-crisis/lebanons-hezbollah-talks-to-government-about-iran-fuel-idea-idUSKBN2482VR Cuba broadcaster confronts budget calamity amid fight with lawmakers The U.S. government’s Cuba broadcasting office is quickly running out of money and could be forced to furlough some of its employees and fire contractors, according to three people familiar with the matter. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/09/cuba-broadcasting-budget-355591 https://archive.is/fUcRq UN: World could hit 1.5-degree warming threshold by 2024 The U.N. weather agency says the world could see average global temperatures rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius above the pre-industrial average for the first time in the coming five years https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/world-hit-15-degree-warming-threshold-years-71687896

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/Nord/ - Nordic General

A place to discuss nordic socialist/communist history, theory and current events.

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Political Compass Results

Here are mine, rate

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/Lat!/

Que piensan de los gobiernos de la 'marea rosa', creo que tengo una opinion vagamente positiva, o sea, aca en Argentina pararon de enviar gente a la escuela de las americas (gracias a dios) y nacionalizaron varias empresas que, bueno, eh, ayudaron a privatizar en los 90, pero bueno, eso es otra historia, Por que creen que 'perdieron' o sea ademas de lo obvio como los golpes en Brazil y Bolivia o sus sucesores volviendose neoliberales como Lenin Moreno Estan volviendo? yo lei cosas sobre AMLO que no me dejaron muy entusiasmado, pero bueno, supongo que cualquier cosa es mejor que el PRI Alguno de ustedes leyo este libro, yo abri una pagina cualquiera y me encontre con una descripcion del hacinamiento de los mineros Bolivianos, y como fifaban en las mismas habitaciones en las que estaban sus hijos, y me dio cosita.

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nihilist anti-capitalism

What is the nihilist case against capitalism?

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Reminder that Autonomism exists Autonomism, also known as autonomist Marxism or autonomous Marxism, is a set of anti-authoritarian left-wing political and social movements and theories. As a theoretical system, it first emerged in Italy in the 1960s from workerist (operaismo) communism. Later, post-Marxist and anarchist tendencies became significant after influence from the Situationists, the failure of Italian far-left movements in the 1970s, and the emergence of a number of important theorists including Antonio Negri, who had contributed to the 1969 founding of Potere Operaio, as well as Mario Tronti, Paolo Virno and Franco "Bifo" Berardi. Georgy Katsiaficas summarizes the forms of autonomous movements saying that "In contrast to the centralized decisions and hierarchical authority structures of modern institutions, autonomous social movements involve people directly in decisions affecting their everyday lives. They seek to expand democracy and to help individuals break free of political structures and behavior patterns imposed from the outside". As such this has involved a call for the independence of social movements from political parties in a revolutionary perspective which seeks to create a practical political alternative to both authoritarian/state socialism and contemporary representative democracy. Autonomism influenced the German and Dutch Autonomen, the worldwide social centre movement, and today is influential in Italy, France, and to a lesser extent the English-speaking countries. Those who describe themselves as autonomists now vary from Marxists to anarchists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomism

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Does anyone else sometimes watch right-wing YouTubers just to try and see if you can at least partially understand their perspective or at the very least see what kind of logic the opposition is running with and coming up with best ways to respond to it?

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Tor is banned

Hello all, I've seen some people saying that they can't post using Tor, are losing posts, that they have tried to make their posts 35 times. Well, that is intentional. Tor posting is supposed to be disabled at least for the time being due to overload of spam and so on. In the last few weeks we've seen; CP spam, ISIS spam, general Nazi spam to a greater extent than usual, all of these are potentially dangerous to the site and cannot be allowed to continue, therefore Tor has been blocked. Yes, it is sometimes possible to still post using Tor but that is unintentional at this point, so if you try to post 45 times it's only yourself you're screwing over, frankly. For /leftypol/ users that genuinely live in authoritarian regimes where posting on /leftypol/ bareback is endangering your safety, I'm sorry, but 95% of Tor users do not live in that situation and have ruined it for you guys. Please do not post on /leftypol/ if it puts you at risk, you can still browse the site using Tor if you still want to lurk. I understand that some posters are unhappy with this and will be unhappy with this announcement, but ultimately we have to do what is best for the board overall, not just cater to a minority of posters who frankly do not 'need' to use Tor and can easily use their normal internet to post on this board. When the new board software is done, and we have better access to more advanced mod tools/automated systems, we may revert this decision and allow Tor once again, but as of now it is unrealistic to try to compromise. Thanks for your attention.

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languages

burgeranon who only knows english here. Last time i tried to ask about learning a non english language a bunch of euroanons here came to shit on me and say theres no point is there a point to me or other burger anons learning another language and if so which one?

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How do you guys cope with the constant calls for violence against leftists?

I know that most likely 90% of the shit online is a massive larp, I still can't help but feel like we are moving in a dangerous direction with all the doxxing, more countries cracking down on Antifa and more calls being made to "cleanse the country" by "patriots". What do you make of this? What should an individual do to maximize his own power against these elements of society and what are you doing personally to prepare/protect yourself. I've been hitting the gym for a while now and running 3 km twice a week, there'sbeen progress. I've stockpiled some legal weapons but not much apart from that. What do?

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Remember when Americans ridiculed China for banning apps? Now that the US plans to do the same, they fully support it. Why are Americans so retarded?

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Audio thread

Post audio sources

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AusCom General

Do we have many Australians on /leftypol/? Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if not, this country is beyond reactionary.

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Diskusija o situaciji u Srbiji i Crnoj Gori, može i o ostalim EX-YU zemljama

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In Marxist terminology Is there a better word than "workers" to describe no just to proletariat but the peasants, surfs, slaves all non owners of the means of production?

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Russia as the bad guy

Many European countries are afraid of Russia, but since politics is mostly the expression of the desire of the bourgeoisie, what reason in particular do the European bourgs have against Russia, as opposed to other European countries or some other lands, like in Africa? On the other hand, what about the cooperative projects they have, like the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline or the work they do in the Council of the Baltic Sea States?

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African States of America

When we win, why don't we give these 5 states (Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, & Florida) to black Americans? I think they should be able to pursue socialism on their own terms. No, I am not an advocate of stupidpol, but I think that everyone would be better off if there were a partition. The interracial friction of the American left isn't going anywhere, and it's quite obvious that black leftists would be happier to have a space to pursue socialism on their own terms. I'm trying to avoid racially aggravating, politically charged language here, but it's really impossible with this kind of subject matter. All of the details of this kind of partition would be very complicated and could result in violence if done improperly. http://peacebuilding.asia/ethnic-groups-right-to-independence-self-determinationsecession-and-post-cold-war-international-relations/ bumplocked: sakai/racist shit

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Mississippi Flag Redesign Thread

Apparently, Mississippi needs a new flag. Who better to make it than us? This is my first proposal. Remember, meme war may seem silly, but it is very important. https://time.com/5862506/mississippi-retires-state-flag-confederate/

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FEMALE BOLIVIAN DICTATOR HAS CORONA https://twitter.com/JeanineAnez/status/1281349188731707392 What goes around comes around bitch, hope she dies in pain

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Egoists, I hope i am not attacking a strawman but, the idea that all altruism is actually selfish seems very unfalsifiable. I've talked with several egoists and I can't seem to get behind that particular idea.

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Cytube Update/Recommendation/Improvement Thread

Hey guys. So we are still streaming stuff every day. But I wanted to make an update for two reasons. 1. Serbia protests are being streamed now. 2. Cytube is having an issue with watching twitch links. No updates yet but twitch themselves are working on it. Once that is completed we can go grab more individual protester streams for specific points of views. If you want emotes or other favors. Post them here and the admin team will address it. Note: We aren't affiliated with the adminstration of bunkerchan nor at this time want to be associated. We welcome all. Just don't spam /pol/ shit through the chat. I miss chatting about these protests with everyone and we plan to keep streaming stuff through out the day as much as possible. During inactive hours we stream the Dow Jones or the live Coronavirus statistics.

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Based Quotes Liberals Will Never Understand

>Communists do not fight for personal military power (they must in no circumstances do that, and let no one ever again follow the example of Chang Kuo-tao), but they must fight for military power for the Party, for military power for the people. As a national war of resistance is going on, we must also fight for military power for the nation. Where there is naivete on the question of military power, nothing whatsoever can be achieved. It is very difficult for the labouring people, who have been deceived and intimidated by the reactionary ruling classes for thousands of years, to awaken to the importance of having guns in their own hands. Now that Japanese imperialist oppression and the nation-wide resistance to it have pushed our labouring people into the arena of war, Communists should prove themselves the most politically conscious leaders in this war. Every Communist must grasp the truth, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party. Yet, having guns, we can create Party organizations, as witness the powerful Party organizations which the Eighth Route Army has created in northern China. We can also create cadres, create schools, create culture, create mass movements. Everything in Yenan has been created by having guns. All things grow out of the barrel of a gun. According to the Marxist theory of the state, the army is the chief component of state power. Whoever wants to seize and retain state power must have a strong army. Some people ridicule us as advocates of the "omnipotence of war". Yes, we are advocates of the omnipotence of revolutionary war; that is good, not bad, it is Marxist. The guns of the Russian Communist Party created socialism. We shall create a democratic republic. Experience in the class struggle in the era of imperialism teaches us that it is only by the power of the gun that the working class and the labouring masses can defeat the armed bourgeoisie and landlords; in this sense we may say that only with guns can the whole world be transformed. We are advocates of the abolition of war, we do not want war; but war can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun. — Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung, Vol. II, pp. 224-225

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/webm/

The webm thread slid off the board and it's all your fault.

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Evidence Of Glow Posting

I'm gonna post this all across Reddit, 4chan etc because it relates to these communities. This is what I have spent the last month of lockdown doing. I have titled this article, 'The Truth About The Alt Right: A Destruction By Facts and Logic.' Part of the reason I write this article is that I sincerely hope those on the Alt-Right consider its implications and question their beliefs. The other part is that I sincerely hope the left begins to more fully understand the scope of the alt-right itself, but also of the intelligence agencies who, I believe I have shown in this article, are the creators and backers of the alt-right movement. I hope that perhaps they might consider what they could do to combat these influences specifically online. While the alt-right have money, we have a lot of people. In the article I first outline who the alt right are and what they believe, as well as outlining a fairly orthodox theory of where fascism comes from. I then discuss The Roots of the Alt Right and the connections to intelligence agencies therein, their relationship to the conspiracy theory community and other alternative media. I also give a brief history of 4chan. I then discuss the Alt-Right itself, the alt-right specific theories such as Pizzagate and Qanon, as well as the alt-rights involvement the election of Donald Trump. From here, I go on to discuss the various different groups and interests who put large amounts of money behind the election of Donald Trump. This money paid for the astroturfing of various forums on the internet, including Reddit and 4chan, by these paid meme magic factories. Those who paid for these factories are some interesting characters, including one Jim Dowson, part of a shadowy group called The Knights Templar International, ruled by a mysterious 'Council of Nine'. Yes, you heard me correctly. Outside of these interests, I also show the massive and blatant amount of intelligence agency interference in these communities. I then go on discuss the esoteric leanings of many of these Neo Nazi groups implicated in this astroturfing campaign, as well as their own connections to intelligence groups, which are often direct and stark. I discuss generally how these various influences have formed a militant anti left bloc, with global reach and influence as well as considerable militant capabilities. This network forms a Fascist International and has links right to the top of many states. 4Chan and Reddit have been a key media outlet in their growth. I am aware the article is very long, so if you have a pretty good grasp 4chan/Reddit history, you can skip ahead to the section, Entitled 'The God Emporer Saves Us From His Pedophile Friends' , or, if you want to get straight to the sections most relevant to 4chan and Reddit, you can skip to the section entitled 'Evidence of Glow Posting'. It is from this section of the article that the whole thing grew. I wanted to collect the little evidence I had of glow posting into one document, that lead here and there and now I have over 20,000 words. You will find that at the start of the article in the introduction there are few citations, don't assume that is because I don't use them, I reference 143 sources in total. This is a link to the article. Hope you find it interesting. https://medium.com/@MKultrawoke/the-truth-about-the-alt-right-a-destruction-by-facts-and-logic-e3d07f27e8cb

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Question

Im new to leftism and i understand the diffrence between personal property and private property. But, If you take the means of production of the bourgeoisie. Will they still be able to keep there personal property after the revolution ie Mansion,Golden Toothbrush, Expensive personal property.

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Any good criticisms of this? https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Niemietz-Socialism.pdf Let's take a critical look at some anti-communist literature. Also you don't need to read the entirety of the pdf, it repeats its main points a lot and don't just go haha he thinks the khmer rouge were socialist. Post other anti-communist literature and debunks as well

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NABPP and Kevin "Rashid" Johnson

http://rashidmod.com/?p=1125 I've been looking into the New Afrikan Black Panther Party recently, and I came across the above blog post by its co-founder Rashid. It's a polemic against Third-Worldism and Sakai as espoused by the Maoist organizations MIM and MIMP; accusing them of peddling petite bourgeois ideology harmful to the interests of the working class. I thought it was a very well written and persuasive post and I strongly recommend reading it. I posted it on /r/MoreTankieChapo in response to a post mentioning "Settlers" (which was probably a mistake) and I received a response highly critical of Rashid's post (the second picture is that comment). I'm interested in hearing what /leftypol/ thinks about it and how valid the comment by the /r/MoreTankieChapo user is. Beyond that, has anyone here read any of Rashid's books? This is the thread for anyone who has any thoughts, reviews, and opinions regarding the NABPP and its activities.

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Im sure capitalism will collapse by 2050. But will that lead to socialism? How would a collapse of capitalism event play out?

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What do you guys think about space? I think its a waste of resources and man power. We should fix the earth before we worry about space. Right now capitalists envision escaping into space an lording over the proles from far away on their space stations.

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Live: Trump Holds Roundtable on Supporting the People of Venezuela https://youtube.com/watch?v=QftBfnEQh2k A double gusano (a pupa?) that escaped Cuba, and then escaped Venezuela is speaking right now.

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what is the communist position on right turn enforcement* cameras, because right now I'm feeling like I want to make it 1917 of my local traffic enforcement contractor because I needed to get my healthcare payment* in before the post office**** closes *in america, you have to come to a full stop to complete a right turn or else it's a $550 fine **certain towns will outsource minor traffic enforcement eg camera monitoring and parking tickets to a private firm ***actually a combination of my mortgagee and my surgery bill, because the insurer got pissy and tried to take a lien on my property so the bank made me roll it into my existing loan ****place where checks are mailed and sent to preform large financial transactions

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are there any agitation images that have like marxism as a whole in one picture. Communism is so misunderstood I feel like if we can show people that it is not a cornicpia etc. if there are no images can we make them?

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Blanquism

From what I would ever hear about Blanquism in leftist circles, it always seems to be written off as an idealist socialist tendency, compared with adventurist terrorism, propaganda of the deed and other pretty retarded strategies. However, the basic principle of Blanquism, of introducing socialism through a plain old military coup of fellow traveler officers, doesn't really seem that bad of an idea. We know for instance that socialism can be destroyed through the same praxis by right wing elements in the military, going so far to convert the entire country into an ultra-neoliberal experiment (Chile). So why would socialism be any different? Why can't it be introduced in much the same way? And this is not a baseless claim that it is possible. If anything, we already saw some example of it in action. Possibly most obvious is the Carnation Revolution in Portugal, where left-leaning generals overthrew the Estado Novo regime. They didn't go further only do to not being themselves overly radical. If I am not mistaken, Sankara took power in much the same way. And then there is the example of basically the entire Eastern Europe. After WW2, democratic elections took place in all the countries. Socialists / Communists were prominent, but not enough to actually take control. However, under advice from Moscow, they all would target taking power structure offices which they did, and then used to pretty much coup these states and join up with the Soviets. Another more theoretical example is combining Blanquism with Opportunism. Let's say a country naturally enters a crisis. At such a point in time, the military or a cabal withing the government could pretty much abuse the circumstance to establish a dictatorship. From there on, under a pretext of taking things under control, it would implement socialist principles over time, hopefully withering away the autocratic elements over time. So, to sum up, why is it that Blanquism is shied from? It seems like a perfectly workable piece of revolutionary practice to me.

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>Trump is so incompetent though he is inadvertently accelerating the downfall of the American Empire >Biden and his handlers would be better at resuming American Imperialism Is this a convincing argument? I'm not an accelerationist per say but I have seen lots of people argue this here and on like chapo. Asking cause I have already started to see the VOTE BLOO NO MATTER WHOOO coming from my family and from normie circles

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Stop making cults of personality

is cringe

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Nazbols are reactionary?

Why does the fucking left unity does not allow nazbols or left nationalists while many of the proclaim themselves leftists? Im overwhelmingly called a reactionary for my socio-nationalist,anti racist and anti fascist values.

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I wish this stupid fucking book was never written It's made "ML" and especially "Maoist" radlibs 1000x more obnoxious and retarded 1619 but for the left bumplocked because shit attracts flies.

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Race and Class on the Delmarva Penisula

I have a few observations about the status of the working classes in the southern Delmarva penisula. Specifically I want to talk about the conditions of the white working class and I wonder what /leftypol/ thinks about these observations. In principal I noticed that there are essentially three classes of white people that exist, the white bourgoise, the white middle class and the white lumpen proletariat. The white bourgoise are land owners and speculators and typically very wealthy, living in gated communities, large farm houses or in the cities. Below them is the white middle class. They exist in suburban communities that look almost planned, smacked down along highways or on watersides, many of these suburbs look as if they could have existed just outside large cities and they all share the exact architecture. The interesting them about these suburbs is that they contain a wide variety of occupations and wealth levels, everything from traditionally industrial workers and miners all the way up to petty-bourgeois and civil servant / intelligentsia workers. Then below them is the white lumpenproletariat. A vast and growing segment, jobless, in horrible poverty, living in either lumpenized, falling apart versions of the suburbs I mentioned above or trailer park type situations that seem more like a squatter camp than an actual living space. But there is the thing, there seems to be only a very small amount of "working class" whites in, aka whites that are employed but do not fall into the essentially middle class social sphere and neighborhoods. The lumpenprole is almost never employed, and if he is, it is in a hustling type of work that is more inclined towards attaining short term money for drugs or such. Meanwhile virtually every employed white falls into a fairly middle class lifestyle. The coal miner has decent benefits and pay and can afford to live in a decent sized house with a car. His neighbor may be petty bourgoise or inteligentsia, and all classes of whites live together, from small bourgoise to farmers to proletariat, only the shameful lumpen excluded from the suburban dream because of his simply inability to find work. The proletariat condition, that of service work or agricultural labor, seems at best temporary for whites. White service workers are typically young, while black and latino service workers are sometimes elderly and often adults. In contrast to whites, black workers tend to live in low income, falling apart, government subsidized housing, of the type that can be seen dotting up and down the Eastern Shore of Maryland and Virginia. They work in Food-lions and Dollar Generals, or work the fields, jobs that would normally be temporary, teenage work, for the white workers last forever for the black workers. Immigrants also play a massive role. Even as far North and rural Maryland, immigrants are brought in on buses to work the fields and typically live right next to where they work, in an arrangement almost resembling a company store situation. Doubtlessly they are exploited and cheated in these arrangements. That is my observation. The white proletariat is hard to find in the massive gulf between the middle class social sphere and the dirt poverty of the white lumpen proletariat. This is not to say that they don't exist, but that they are observed into a very middle class worldview and lifestyle which seems very difficult to fall out of without being jettisoned out of the class structure all together and become a heroin addicted trailer park dweller. Mods, this is not a Sakai thread but rather genuine observations, please don't ban me.

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/effort/ v.2

Link, copy, and screencap effort posts made by the community. Default post guideline ITT: 1) screencap + >>1 OR: >>1 + >text copied; 2) write short summary or why you think the /effort/ post is relevant for us. Please don't: 1) debate these posts here, but follow the links and argue in the respective threads; 2) if the link is already dead start a separate thread, explaining what you are arguing against and laying down your arguments. We tried these and the previous thread got buried for lack of bumps, while the content was pretty high quality. Feel free to debate them, but please, for the love of God, don't derail. Thank you. Example post: Pic2 is from >>564484 While the US riots are going on it is super important for the community to understand what makes good propaganda and what mistakes we should avoid, what tools we should use, so .pdf related is of a flier made by the community following these guidelines.

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CHAZ/CHOP and its relevance

Ok, so I wanted to get peoples opinions, did the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone/Capitol Hill Organized Protest get anywhere near actual anarchism? Were they set up like a correct anarchist society? They seemed to be built in the image of an Anarchist society, but personally it really didn't seem like one.

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when will burgers learn what "left wing" means?

how did american politics get so far auth right compared to more civilised countries like europe or africa? are burgers genuinely still culturally brainwashed from the cold war?

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Why feminists defending harmful industry nowadays?

>if you don't support the porn industry you're a SWERF

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I'm not a fan of Orwell but this quote from him (from .epub related) resonates with me: >The first thing that must strike any outside observer is that Socialism in its developed form is a theory confined entirely to the middle class. The typical Socialist is not, as tremulous old ladies imagine, a ferocious-looking working man with greasy overalls and a raucous voice. He is either a youthful snob-Bolshevik who in five years’ time will quite probably have made a wealthy marriage and been converted to Roman Catholicism; or, still more typically, a prim little man with a white-collar job, usually a secret teetotaller and often with vegetarian leanings, with a history of Nonconformity behind him, and, above all, with a social position which he has no intention of forfeiting. This last type is surprisingly common in Socialist parties of every shade; it has perhaps been taken over en bloc from the old Liberal Party. In addition to this there is the horrible – the really disquieting – prevalence of cranks wherever Socialists are gathered together. One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ‘Socialism’ and ‘Communism’ draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist and feminist in England. One day this summer I was riding through Letchworth when the bus stopped and two dreadful-looking old men got onto it. They were both about sixty, both very short, pink and chubby, and both hatless. One of them was obscenely bald, the other had long grey hair bobbed in the Lloyd George style. They were dressed in pistachio-coloured shirts and khaki shorts into which their huge bottoms were crammed so tightly that you could study every dimple. Their appearance created a mild stir of horror on top of the bus. The man next to me, a commercial traveller I should say, glanced at me, at them, and back again at me, and murmured, ‘Socialists’, as who should say, ‘Red Indians’. He was probably right – the ILP were holding their summer school at Letchworth. But the point is that to him, as an ordinary man, a crank meant a Socialist and a Socialist meant a crank. Any Socialist, he probably felt, could be counted on to have something eccentric about him. And some such notion seems to exist even among Socialists themselves. For instance, I have here a prospectus from another summer school which states its terms per week and then asks me to say ‘whether my diet is ordinary or vegetarian’. They take it for granted, you see, that it is necessary to ask this question. This kind of thing is by itself sufficient to alienate plenty of decent people. And their instinct is perfectly sound, for the food-crank is by definition a person willing to cut himself off from human society in hopes of adding five years onto the life of his carcase; that is, a person out of touch with common humanity. I mean... come on, man.

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Zionism and Israel

In 1975, Zionism was officially defined under international law as a racist ideology, in part thanks to soviet efforts. Since the demise of the Eastern bloc the resolution has been repealed and anti-zionism has basically disappeared from the political map. The right wing is overwhelmingly zionist and has made sure all attempts to criticize Zionism or Israel are equated to anti-semitism and discredited. So is anti-zionist activism even politically viable today? What should be the strategy of socialists this decade? And where does everyone here stand on the Israel question?

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Socialism Would Have Been Easy to Discredit, Had There Been Growth

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How true is this? My ancap friend is tearing it apart. "First off, nothing is "free". Everything costs resources and energy. Labour costs energy both from the worker and whatever facility they are using. Acquiring labour and resources in general has a cost, as well. Next, if you're not making capital, you can't pay workers anyway. It's not like you can just continually pay people (even if it's small) without earning back capital. All incoming profits DO go back to the workers, just disproportionately to the work they put in. Business owners definitely deserve to make more than their workers, but not by a margin of 1000% or some shit."

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.org

Now that the bunkerchan mod team owns the leftypol.org domain, should the site be switched over to using this? thoughts /leftypol/

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Permaculture

The practice and principles of Permaculture are one of the most important tools for not only creating a sustainable socialism, but also for repairing the damage done to the global ecosystem by capitalism, and lessening your individual reliance on the current capitalist system.
Permacultural practice and socialism are two very powerful allies, and learning about permaculture should be necessity for modern socialists and communists.

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/leftybritpol/ - PLM edition

Palestinian Lives Matter.

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Capital by Marx

First time reader here Is it ok to ask some questions? Maybe some other comrades who have not read this can join in this thread and we can read together. Anyway I am puzzled by this passage: >The introduction of power-looms into England, for example, probably reduced by one half the Labour required to convert a given quantity of yarn into woven fabric. In order to do this, the English hand-loom weaver in fact needed the same amount of Labour-time as before; but the product of his individual hour of labour now only represented half an hour of social labour, and consequently fell to one half its former value. Is the point here that for the hand weaver, the social labour fell not because of anything he did but because of the outside forces that had invented a new technology? Thus is social labour a sort of floating value that is dependent on the most productive technology in operation? If for example someone invented a gizmo that could produce 10,000 bolts of cotton in one second, would we see that the hand weaver, carrying on usual, see his product represent a social labour of a tiny fraction of a second?

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>Technology is the problem! >We should become anarcho primitivists >Corporatism is the problem >We should have a libertarian government >The jews are the problem >we should expel the jews (or worse) Its all so tiresome lads...

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The Lasting Relevance of "Qanon"

Help me out here lads: what is the appeal of this fucking asinine conspiracy theory? I've read up quite a bit on the movement's beliefs and listened to Qanon Anonymous but I really don't get why it has as large of a following as it does. Basically everything this "Q" asshole said was going to happen didn't happen, so what the fuck is the draw for all these decrepit old boomers who flock to it? Why is it that this particular millenarian death cult still as relevant as it is?

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goddamit leftpol

Goddamit leftpol i try to gently coax debate to include left v lib and inevitably there are no clearn normier-frienly examples around

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/warroom/

We are reaching levels of LARP previously thought impossible >meme ammo/warriors >pretentious latin This is what the Qanon boomers are up to. Making a laughing stock of themselves.

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Explain the strong correlation between being a sexually unsuccessful, shut-in male who consumes video games & anime all day and falling into the far-right.

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imageboard popularity

I wonder why imageboards are so popular on the right and so unpopular on the left? why do 90% of leftists hang out on twitter/etc. ? what accounts for this?

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Senile "comrades"

Let it be stated that I used to be beholden to these Biden-tier bumbling asses. Who am I talking about here? People like Noam Chomsky and David Harvey. These people are crearly experiencing and going under the phase we'd call senility. Yes, Chomsky did write based shit against US imperialism, but he's right now shilling for voting for Biden of all people. Yes, Harvey did used to have interesting takes, but he's been lately completely BTFO by ACTUAL Marxists on the issue of the LTV. All of these examples, IMO, are cases of "Actually Existing Senility." You literally can't explain these without taking into account that >Chomsky, age 91 and >Harvey, age 84 are biologically becoming... trying to come up with a term that isn't too offensive... outdated. I used to make Chomsky webms back on 8ch/leftypol, and I used to make webms about Harvey the same. These people are literally useless now. Like, yes, I had to edit a Harvey video thirty times, so that he could make a single point, but now it would be 100+. Same with Chomsky. These faggots are literal Zombies. They are living dead. They have NOTHING to offer us, while being after our "brains." Fuck 'em.

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>Xi also laid out an ambitious plan to make China a “great modern socialist country” in the following 30 years — part of what he has called the “Chinese dream.” By 2050, he said, the party would be near the goal of achieving a “beautiful China” with the rule of law, innovative companies, a clean environment, an expanding middle class, adequate public transportation and reduced disparities between urban and rural areas. China is never going to transition to a pure socialist economy are they... They've done a descent job though.

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are there any good right wing leaders that left can praise?

are there any good right wingers similar to sun yat sen or abraham lincoln?

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Hello leftypol. I'm planning on making an 2d mmorpg that would simulate living under a democratic socialist society. But I'd like to hear what ideas you guys have on what the game mechanics should be.

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the day shall come

has anyone seen this movie about FBI? its a fictional movie about hoteps being entrapped by the FBI

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Communist art thread

Been googling various combinations of "Soviet war memorial" or "laborwave" in search of a new desktop and keep coming up disappointed. Show me what cool communist art you guys have been sitting on. Remind the board that fascists don't have a monopoly on aesthetic quality.

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Are MLs the majority here?

Also, what's your favorite obscure marxist ideology?

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How can we understand SJW/woke/PC "Liberals"?

Looking to interview a Liberal/SJW type of person I'm curious to understand that way of thinking. I don't want to reveal my own politics to not skew answers that I get, but my politics are not what you would immediately think they are.

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crazy shit its crazy shit

How the fuck do so many people in burgerland believe retarded conspiracies about qanon and george soros but you cant get anyone to believe reasoned socialist critiques of capitalism? "obviously thats bullshit but this illuminati flat earth conspiracy shit is reasonable" ps this is only the beginnings of the hots takes of this guy hes basically another alex jones

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Morales shall return, soon.

Post yfw Morales shall return, and shall throw the catho-fascists into a pit of snakes.

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informational warfare

https://www.npr.org/local/309/2020/05/04/849109486/study-finds-more-c-o-v-i-d-19-cases-among-viewers-of-fox-news-host-who-downplayed-pandemic >An April study about the effects of coronavirus media coverage analyzed two popular Fox News cable programs — and claims how one host talked about the threat of the coronavirus resulted in greater numbers of COVID-19 cases and deaths. Tell the Americans to stop following anti-COVID-19 precautions using their own domestic disinformation grifters. These Fox News clowns have an audience of about 5 million each on any given broadcast. This is easily within reach of a social network.

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News 7/9/20

Missing Seoul mayor’s body found after massive search The missing mayor of South Korea’s capital, reportedly embroiled in sexual harassment allegations, was found dead early Friday, more than half a day after giving his daughter a will-like message and then leaving home, police said. https://apnews.com/b3d9b24194e7932e9ac3689ac39dd4be Serbian defense minister says protests are ‘COUP ATTEMPT’, aim to spark CIVIL WAR What started as a demonstration against the government-planned curfew over the coronavirus eventually got out of hand and snowballed into massive riots that saw mostly young people assaulting police squads in Belgrade and other major Serbian cities. https://on.rt.com/alcp Rallies planned around Greece against new protest law Demonstrations are being planned in Athens and around 40 other Greek cities and towns to oppose plans by the center-right government to restrict public protests.Many of the rallies planned for later Thursday have been backed by the Greek Communist Party, while labor unions and Greece’s left-wing main opposition party have also organized rallies. https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/rallies-planned-greece-protest-law-71689787 Dawn Butler forced to close constituency office over death threats Ms Butler, who served as shadow women’s secretary in Jeremy Corbyn’s shadow cabinet, said that bricks had been thrown through the window of the office in north London and staff attacked outside. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/dawn-butler-forced-close-constituency-office-over-death-threats Report finds UK enabled ‘unlawful’ Saudi-led naval blockade of Yemen, as London resumes arms sales to Riyadh The Saudi personnel were taught “high-risk search techniques” as well as detention procedures. Between September 2016 and March 2017, the UK also provided Saudi and UAE forces with instruction on protecting an Exclusive Economic Zone – the area off the coast of a country containing its exclusive fishing and other resource-gathering rights. The course was followed by training exercises with the Saudi Navy. https://on.rt.com/al9j Palestinians say Israel is using power cuts to apply pressure in the West Bank Yaabad’s mayor Amjad Atatra, 40, told MEE that while he had heard rumours circulating that Israel was planning on cutting electricity to Yaabad and the surrounding areas, the local authorities had received no formal warning from Israel ahead of time. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/palestine-israel-west-bank-power-cuts-accusing Chile: Chamber Approves Bill for Withdrawal of Pension Funds After a heated discussion, the Chamber of Deputies Chamber approved the constitutional reform project that seeks to allow the withdrawal of up to 10% of pension funds, to face the economic and health crisis brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Chile-Chamber-Approves-Bill-for-Withdrawal-of-Pension-Funds-20200708-0012.html China challenges U.S. to cut nuclear arsenal to matching level China would “be happy to” participate in trilateral arms control negotiations with the United States and Russia, but only if the United States were willing to reduce its nuclear arsenal to China’s level, a senior Chinese diplomat said on Wednesday. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-arms/china-challenges-us-to-cut-nuclear-arsenal-to-matching-level-idUSKBN2490C9 Lebanon economic crisis: Food prices are so high not even shops can afford them Zein said that many Lebanese can’t afford to buy meat anymore, and don’t buy fruits like they used to, as it is now considered a luxury item.Back in April, a social worker in the southern town told MEE that prices have gone up by up to 60 percent, but things have taken a turn for the worse since. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/lebanon-economic-crisis-food-shortage-price-hike Bolivia's Crisis: Hospital Will No Longer Receive Patients La Paz City’s Obrero Hospital director Raul Villanueva Wednesday confirmed that his institution will no longer receive COVID-19 patients because its ability to offer services has collapsed. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Bolivias-Crisis-Hospital-Will-No-Longer-Receive-Patients-20200709-0002.html

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Should 4chan just embrace its racism? Now I know you're already thinking "don't they do that now?" But the truth is that they still hide behind "irony". Personally I think they should rebrand the site as a stormfront clone and cut the bullshit. Thoughts?

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Hey, so was it moral to execute the Romanovs, I mean they were monarchist shitheads, but I mean, even the kids? I dunno, just figured it would be worth discussing.

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Is US based porkieslosing it's propaganda power?

It seems like using all of the energy in the world to astroturf, 4chan, reddit, twitter has done absolutely nothing at all to change people's perceptions on things. It is actually pretty baffling to me that even most US adults don't care at all about the US banning Tik-Tok.

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internet irony

Is there any escape from irony/post irony on the internet?

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Why the FUCK are working class Americans reactionary

Every time I interact with rural usually white working class people in America they're literally always fanatical reactionaries and conservatives who are braindead Trump supporters. I seriously don't see why we cling to the retarded working class anyways when all they care about is having a harsher boot over top of them and scoffing at the very idea that things could be better for them. And why is it always upper class and "middle class" people who are closer to revolutionary ideas and more receptible to fanatic reactionism. The only class that makes sense here is the bourgeoisie being neoliberal as their best interest for their own class. I'm just fucking confused.

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People who shill Quantum Mechanics against Dial-Materialism

One of the last arguments of certain people who are willful to fight to death against Dialectical Materialism is the good old proverb of "Muh Quantum Mechanics". Now then, how the hell are we supposed to counter this form of argument?

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News 7/7/20

Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus The Brazilian president, Jair Bolsonaro, has announced live on television he has tested positive for coronavirus.“It came back positive,” a mask-wearing Bolsonaro told a hand-picked group of reporters on Tuesday lunchtime outside his official residence. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/07/jair-bolsonaro-coronavirus-positive-test-brazil-president Bolivia: Socialist Candidate to Win Elections in First Round The Latin America Strategic Center for Geopolitics (CELAG) Tuesday published the results of a survey according to which the Movement Towards Socialism (MAS) presidential candidate Luis Arce would get 41.9 percent of the votes in the upcoming elections in September. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Bolivia-Socialist-Candidate-to-Win-Elections-in-First-Round-20200707-0012.html ‘Price on your heads’: Aide to Venezuelan ‘president’ Guaido threatens journalists with FBI investigation over ‘Twitter hack’ Nothing says you represent an internationally recognized government like telling people who mock you on Twitter that the FBI is after them and that there is a “price” on their heads. Just ask Juan Guaido’s ‘ambassador’ to the UK. https://on.rt.com/al70 The US violated international law by assassinating Iranian general Qassem Soleimani, top UN human rights investigator says The UN has now refuted President Donald Trump's reasoning for the strike. But, while the report is damning, it is unlikely to have any ramifications for Trump, as the US is not a member of the UN Human Rights Council, crashing out in 2018 after clashing over Israel, the Congo, and China. https://www.businessinsider.com/un-says-us-soleimani-assasination-unlawful-no-evidence-iran-terror-2020-7 Opposition laments failure to unite after Koike wins big in Tokyo election Tadatomo Yoshida, secretary general of the Social Democratic Party, said the votes against Koike were “scattered” and struggled to gain ground. Utsunomiya was also supported by the SDP and the Japanese Communist Party, while Taisuke Ono, a former vice governor of Kumamoto Prefecture, was backed by the opposition Nippon Ishin no Kai. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/07/06/national/politics-diplomacy/opposition-tokyo-yuriko-koike-election/ Scottish Labour launches petition to save Fair Rents Bill after SNP and Tories block it The party is calling on supporters to back the appeal, which is pressuring the Scottish government to adopt the Fair Rents (Scotland) Bill. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/scottish-labour-launches-petition-to-save-fair-rents-bill-after-snp-and-tories-block-it SDF and Russia agree to increase coordination The Commander-in-Chief of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), Mazloum Abdi, said that they received today the commander of the Russian forces in Syria and discussed with him the common issues, including Turkey's violations of the agreements concluded and the assassination of Kurdish activists in Kobane. https://anfenglishmobile.com/rojava-syria/sdf-and-russia-agree-to-increase-coordination-45113 Austria to investigate attacks on Kurdish women amid suspicion of Turkish state involvement Those thought to have carried out the attacks are associated with Turkey’s ruling coalition parties and Austrian officials have voiced suspicions that the Turkish state is involved. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/articlend/w/austria-investigate-attacks-kurdish-amid-suspicion-turkish-state-involvement UK to resume Saudi Arabia arms sales despite 'possible' war crimes The UK has announced the resumption of arms sales to Saudi Arabia despite evidence of "possible" war crimes.International Trade Secretary Liz Truss made the announcement on Tuesday afternoon, saying the government regarded any breaches of international law as "isolated incidents". https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-saudi-arms-sales-resume-possible-war-crimes Macron administration announces new French cabinet Incoming French Prime Minister Jean Castex announced the 31 members of his ministerial cabinet last night at 7 p.m., three days after the administration of President Emmanuel Macron announced a cabinet reshuffle and the resignation of outgoing Prime Minister Édouard Philippe. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/07/07/fran-j07.html Israel public health chief quits amid rise in coronavirus cases Israel’s top public health official has quit in protest at the government’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, as authorities imposed new measures to combat a rise in infections after the country opened its economy. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/07/israeli-public-health-chief-quits-amid-rise-in-coronavirus-cases

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Is Kanye West the socalist choice for president?

If Kanye where to run for president during this cycle would he be the socialist choice? Socialist bonafides: Understands that current social welfare and safety net is weak and punitive: "To the victims of welfare feel we livin' in Hell here, hell yeah (Jesus walks for them)" Mutual aid: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8137337/Kanye-West-joins-growing-list-concerned-high-profile-citizens-donating-charities-amid-pandemic.html Fix the housing crisis, by decommodifing rented accommodation: https://www.gq.com.au/lifestyle/art-design/kanye-west-gives-a-first-look-at-his-affordable-yeezy-shelters/news-story/cececcf549563c68d248faadecdb208e Class first Anylisis: https://atlantablackstar.com/2015/03/03/yet-kanye-west-insists-classicism-not-racism-core-americas-problems/ "Classism is the new racism" "Classism is more urgent than racism" "The class war is one of the reasons why Trump won" https://atlantablackstar.com/2015/03/03/yet-kanye-west-insists-classicism-not-racism-core-americas-problems/ Prison reform: "13th amendment gotta end it that's on me" "The system broken, the school’s closed, the prison’s open" "Face it, Jerome get more time than Brandon" Police reform: "I say f--- the police, that's how I treat 'em/ We buy our way out of jail, but we can't buy freedom" "And I basically know now, we get racially profiled/ Cuffed up and hosed down, pimped up and ho'd down" Woke on deep state plots: I treat the cash the way the government treats AIDS/ I won’t be satisfied till all my n---as get it/ Get it Radical heritage , parents where Black panthers: https://www.bustle.com/articles/147197-who-is-kanye-wests-dad-just-like-his-son-hes-had-quite-a-range-of-careers Tweeted about how sharing ideas is more important than selling them, about how supporters of capitalism slave away their lives instead of enjoying it: https://preview.redd.it/myikvkb8b7s01.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7feff3ca604cea7d4aa48e3a34272eb0816e9b0d Against foreign wars and American empire: “Been a don, praying for the families lost in the storm / Bring our troops back from Iraq, keep our troops out of Iran”. Education reform, higher teacher pay and reducing the cost of education: https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/6875485/kanye-west-twitter-lower-textbook-prices-education Tax reform(Ending porky tax dodging) "Mitt Romney don't pay no tax/ Mitt Romney don't pay no tax" Anti-Free trade: “We have to bring jobs into America, because our best export is entertainment and ideas, but when we make everything in China and not in America, then we’re cheating on our country.” Building factory in Wyoming instead of using sweat shops abroad: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7890975/Kanye-Wests-Yeezys-HQ-Wyoming-save-15M-taxes-hurt-sweatshop-workers-Asia.html Against 3rd world exploitation: "See, a part of me saying keep shinin'/ How, when I know what a blood diamond is?/ Though it's thousands of miles away/ Sierra Leone connects to what we go through today" $15 an hour: "Before you ask me to go get a job today/ Can I at least get a raise of the minimum wage" Unlike even supposed socialists Bernie or AOC , Kanye will openly attack Obama's failed presidency: "Obama was in office for eight years and nothing in Chicago changed." https://www.nme.com/news/music/kanye-west-criticises-obamas-presidency-2303669

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Disease or Genocide?

One of the most common argument wh*te settlers employ to cover up native genocide is that "diseases" are responsible for 90% of native american death. Did diseases really play much more role in culling off native population or is this just the crakkka's way to downplay their genocide of an entire continent?

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Social Democracy

A spectre is haunting Leftism — the spectre of social democracy. All the sects of /leftypol/ have entered into an unholy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Marxist Leninist and Trotskyist, Maoist and Guyanist, Anarchist and... well, you get the idea. Everybody knows that everybody knows that social democrats are bad. They are traitors. They have betrayed leftists in the past, and they'll do it again. Across the world, social democratic parties impose austerity just as zealously as parties of the right. There is nothing to be gained by co-operating with social democrats. Instead, the revolution will come about organically through some process. Everybody knows, that everybody knows. But what nobody knows is: this is wrong. It is empirically wrong about the nature of social democracy if "social democracy" is to be a term with any content whatsoever, and I believe it is a wrongheaded view to strategy and organization even for (perhaps especially for) those with politics that aim to go beyond the aspirations of social democrats. I'm not here to tell you to vote, to join your local "social democratic" party, or anything of that sort. I aim only to set out an analysis. So let's start on the ground floor: 1. What is social democracy? The most important thing to establish is that social democracy is not "what social democratic parties do". Such a definition is utterly worthless. By this standard one can argue that Communism is when you destroy the Soviet Union (as the CPSU did under Gorbachev) and that Social Democracy is what they do in North Korea (as The Korean Social Democratic Party is in coalition with the WPK). No, ground rules must be set as to the requirements of Social Democracy. The three simple rules I would apply (mostly for the purposes of disentangling Social Democracy from the policy of post-1980s "Social Democratic" parties.) are as follows: 1. Full Employment must be a key plank of economic policy. Generally, Keynesian economic analysis and policy follows. (And by Keynesian special effort must be made to exclude New Keynesian economics, which is to Keynesianism as the "third way" was to Social Democracy) Where governments do not hold to this aim, they cannot rightly be considered social democratic. Acceptance of a "natural" rate of unemployment or other such nonsense is grounds for immediate disqualification. 2. Trade union rights must be emphasized and respected. With regard to specific rights, my canary-in-the-coal mine would be the right to secondary picketing. Where a social democratic government restricts these, or fails to repeal restrictions, 3. The project should be identifiably egalitarian. Where "social democratic" politicians couch their language in the terms of "aspiration", of "entrepreneurship", and so on, where they seem at ease with economic inequality, this should be taken as an immediate warning sign. What will result from the application of these rules, and which can also be used as a neat little tool in itself, is that you will notice that after the 1970s in most of the world and certainly by the end of the 1980s, no social democratic party remains consistent with these principles. For you see my friends, social democracy as an ideology of government is a dead ideology. The spectre of social democracy is a ghost of that which once was, not the spectre of the future that is communism. Vestigial social democratic parties continue on, but they are no longer meaningfully social democratic. It is a legacy position, a piece of their history, and a history some of them would much rather forget. The few serious ideological social democrats who exist are generally of old age. The younger ones often politically distracted by other odd causes, flirting with nonsense alliances with the socially-conservative right or so on. The same is broadly true of their more narrowly focused economistic fellow travellers: the Post-Keynesian economists.

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Ive read what is to be done, das kapital vol i, ii and iii, imperialism the latest stage of capitalism, the quest for bread... And I dont think I understood or remember any of it.

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What's the deal with this dudes? >Direct Democracy >Federalized Government >Citizen gun ownership >Natural borders How do they get away with it?

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Black ancom on the edge. Convince me to go full ML and free me of liberalism.

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Can someone explain to me why the ancoms view the state as counter revoultionary/can't lead to socialism.

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Red pill me on the philippino CPP-NPA comrades

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Sam Marcy and Marcyism

Why do people always refer to Sam Marcy and "Marcyism" in a sneering, disparaging way? As far as Trotskyism goes, surely Marcyites are preferable to the left-anticommunist Shachtmanite and Cliffite crypto-neocons?

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🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 DIE DIE DIE DIE

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News 7/8/2020

600+ Groups Warn 'Unprecedented' Wave of Corporate Lawsuits Could Imperil Global Fight Against Covid-19 More than 600 civil society groups from 90 countries have published an open letter urging world governments to take action to prevent an "unprecedented" and potentially disastrous wave of lawsuits by foreign corporations seeking taxpayer compensation for profits lost to policies enacted in the fight against Covid-19. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/08/600-groups-warn-unprecedented-wave-corporate-lawsuits-could-imperil-global-fight BJP leader & family shot dead by militants in Kashmir Sheikh Waseem Bari, a regional leader of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s BJP party, has been shot dead in the disputed land of Kashmir. Bari’s brother and father were also gunned down, with police blaming “terrorists.” https://on.rt.com/alba Egypt parliament approves law restricting soldiers from running for office The law comes one year after the passing of constitutional amendments that allow President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, a former army general, to stay in office until 2030. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egypt-law-restricts-soldiers-running-office Ethiopia’s week of unrest sees 239 dead, 3,500 arrested At least 239 people have been killed and 3,500 arrested in more than a week of unrest in Ethiopia that poses the biggest challenge yet to its Nobel Peace Prize-winning prime minister. https://apnews.com/761ba72fed4ba76cabbcbfadebced6bd Grenfell Tower inquiry: Lead fire consultant 'ignored' cladding email Terry Ashton said he did not read an email from project architects detailing a planned cladding system because he was not the "primary recipient".The hearing was told he also failed to read the architect's progress report. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53336670 Greek PM rides high in opinion polls after one year in office More than 67 percent of people judged Mitsotakis's premiership positively in the run-up to Tuesday's anniversary in a Marc poll published by Proto Thema weekly on Sunday.And recent polls have consistently shown the PM's New Democracy party leading the main opposition left-wing Syriza party by more than 15 percent. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/07/greek-pm-rides-high-opinion-polls-year-office-200707090629333.html https://archive.is/VW62X Brazil's president says he is taking hydroxychloroquine to cure his coronavirus. Scientists have long said it doesn't work. Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, who has tested positive for the coronavirus, said Tuesday that he is taking the contentious antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine to treat his symptoms. https://www.businessinsider.com/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-coronavirus-taking-hydroxychloroquine-2020-7 Union blasts government plans to scrap free parking for NHS staff SCRAPPING free parking for NHS staff is a “rebuff to the immense efforts” of healthcare workers during the pandemic, a doctors’ union charged today. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/union-blasts-government-plans-to-scrap-free-parking-for-nhs-staff Chile's COVID-19 Cases Top 300,000 Chile declared a state of catastrophe months ago to better enforce lockdown and social distancing measures with the help of the army and police force, including a nighttime curfew. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Chiles-COVID-19-Cases-Top-300000-20200707-0015.html As Arctic Burns, New Data Shows June 2020 Capped Off Year Tied for Hottest on Record The unprecedented heat and fires that ravaged Siberia last month came at the tail end of a 12-month period that European researchers revealed Tuesday effectively tied with the hottest year on record based on global surface temperatures, bolstering calls from activists for international bodies and governments across the globe to take immediate action to tackle the climate crisis. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/07/arctic-burns-new-data-shows-june-2020-capped-year-tied-hottest-record

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Difference between Co-op and LLC with equal partners?

Assume an LLC exists in which all employees are also owners of equal shares. 10 employees, each with one equal share. They're all each made a principal as well, if that's possible. Is this in any ways different from a co-op?

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Stop using Wikipedia

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/06/10/wikipedia-formally-censors-the-grayzone-as-regime-change-advocates-monopolize-editing/ https://thegrayzone.com/2020/06/11/meet-wikipedias-ayn-rand-loving-founder-and-wikimedia-foundations-regime-change-operative-ceo/ We all knew it, but the Grayzone helpfully synthesizes the issue of porky and fash shilling on Wikipedia in two successive articles. Long reads but well worth your time. Stop using Wikipedia.

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Late Stage Capitalism

Saw this article and there was no late stage capitalism thread, so, new one. Pic unrelated. BMW wants customers to pay a subscription fee to use features the car already has installed, like a heated steering wheel or adaptive cruise control https://www.businessinsider.com/bmw-subscription-model-for-features-2020-7 >In July, BMW will roll out a sweeping software update that includes digital personalization and on-demand functions. >The automaker envisions a future where people will subscribe to existing features on their cars, such as a heated steering wheel or adaptive cruise control. >The software will be compatible with BMWs with the automaker's latest Operating System 7, as well as the 2021 BMW 5 Series. ..

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So is anarcho-syndicalism only a means to an end for achieving Anarcho-communism? Could an anarcho-syndicalist society survive just as it is? Catalonia is one of the most successful examples, was that only a means to end? I'm confused by this shit.

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Thoughts on the Rand Rebellion?

The Rand Rebellion was a miners' strike in South Africa in 1922. Due to the crash of the price of diamonds in 1921, the bourgies in South Africa began cutting white worker pay and lifting the colour bar which would allow many Natives to get increased pay and be promoted to higher positions. The White workers were unhappy with decreased pay and the fact the Natives could be receiving higher pay. To give some context, the Whites employed by the Chamber of Mines were paid 15 times more than the African workers. The CPSA and many syndicalists gave their support to the strikes whilst saying they were not supportive of the racist aspects of the strike, that is, they supported the "Workers of the World, unite" part of the slogan, but not the "and fight for a white South Africa" part. Hypothetically, if the same situation were to happen today, should we as leftists give them out support against the bourjies?

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how does china deal with debt

in typical capitalist economies it's common that, due to falls in the rate of profit, that shareholders tend to have to engage in social instutions putting people into debt in order to lower wages and sustain constant capital which eventually creates a "bubble" that eventually "pops" causing recession and calling for supply-side intervention from the State. why does China seem to not have this problem? it's not secret that they still have wages, credit, investors, and rent so why do thy seem to not suffer from these typical problems in capitalism? what's the secret ingredient?

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Gaddafi's Libya

Caleb Maupin just uploaded a video of himself reading the introduction he wrote for a new edition of Muammar Gaddafi's Green Book. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9_sSUvtRw He is of the opinion that, while Gaddafi rejected Marxism, it still influenced his thinking and that Libya under his rule was a successful (Islamic) socialist state that greatly improved the lives of the population and aided other socialist and anti-imperialist movements abroad. He also criticizes the Workers World Party (which he used to be a member of) for viewing Gaddafi's Libya as a "bourgeois nationalist" state as opposed to a socialist one. Thoughts? Is he right, and if not, what are the inaccuracies in his presentation of Libya, and what are the errors in his argument?

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I installed linux and I got to say, its really not that bad. I recommend you guys give it a try. Linux and open source software is consistent with socialist ideals, windows and apple are not.

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I majored in Poli Sci and am a commie and i swear to god every job i look for has some corporate sponsors and it's soul crushing what do i do??? should i just join maoist guerrilla groups or something?

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Nikolai Bukharin

Was he right? Did he deserve to die? Would anything have changed if he was kept alive?

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"Saying the word retard is wrong because it's a meanie slur!"

"Also you can't say stupid, idiot, crazy, ANYTHING, if you can't explain why someone is wrong don't say anything, insulting someone's intelligence is mean to the disabled etc, etc, etc" Okay, I know Leftypol isnt like this, but what's with so many commies being fucking thin-skinned pussies banning meanie words like it's fucking kindergarten? Do these faggots not know what the point of insults are? Do they think normies will see them as anything other than pathetic fucking pussies when they rant about how calling a Nazi retarded is ableist??? What's with modern commies and trying so fucking hard to look like faggots, what is this pussy shit? So many commies huffing radlib wokeness it's damaged their fucking brains. These fags go from banning nazism (understandable), to banning slurs (okay), to fucking banning the meanie words. Why? How do these fuckers survive in public? Mind you this is the same segment of commies that are usually deeply mentally ill with "muh anxiety" "can't leave the house" etc. God I hate these fuckers, watching yet another chat descend into their radlib faggotry, why, why, why??????

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Musk

I genuinely don't understand the hero worship around this guy. He started and sold a software company (paypal) and now is making a bunch of meme companies? Why the fuck is this guy so worshipped on reddit and in general by "entrepreneurs" etc? I don't get it? the hero worship is so fucking cringey. Why single this guy out i genuinely don't understand? does reddit literally think he's gonna end global warming or something singlehandedly? Do they honestly think he is anything but a manchild with lots of money? hes like the 40 year old version of the soyjack chud but if he had billions of dollars to play around with

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Lefty music thread

I need my music fix comrades. Links and webm's plz. Also, let us discuss the validity of music as a tool for propaganda and keeping up our moral in these times of capitalism's slip into fascism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8_6lRywaxs

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Time for China to decouple the yuan from US dollar, former diplomat urges

US will pose ‘increasingly severe threat’ to future Chinese development through dollar’s global monopoly Preparations for gradual decoupling and internationalisation of the yuan should begin ‘now’ https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3091865/time-china-decouple-yuan-us-dollar-former-party-official

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What do they mean by this? Isn't a communist, anarchist, socialist, etc all different types of leftists.

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Tech Leak from Silicon Valley Anon. YouTube plans new Community Guidelines update to: a.) Mitigate excessive swearing in comments (repeated "fucks", etc) by flagging accounts. •Flagged accounts will have commenting temporarily disabled and directed to a short community guidelines course. b.) Unlist videos that promote extremist political ideas, including nazism, communism, anarchism or any that YouTube deems as violent, terroristic, and anti-democratic. •Paraphernalic media, such as anthems, music, or memes with any of their political icons and symbols may also be subject to unlisting. •Unlisted videos will not be accessable through search or recommendations; they require direct link access to view. This update is going to be announced on July 1st with implementation sometime during the month.

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"Good" reactionaries

Did you have read any reactionary theorists, which actually influenced your own thinking? In the past, I've been called to be a "Left-Schmittian", altough I never read anything by Carl Schmitt. Now I'm reading his book THE CONCEPT OF THE POLITICAL and it really blows my mind! Have you made a similar experience?

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Soviet-Finnish Winter War

Opinions about this war? My grandma is Finnish and her father fought in the war so it has always been a point of pride in my family. Any Finns here? How do Finns view the Winter War nowadays? Also, what are their opinions on this guy (pic related)?

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tankies

There's been a disturbing trend lately on the left internet. i feel as though people are shifting away from hardline communism/anarchism and more towards liberalism/socdem/anarcho-vaushism. I feel like shit is becoming way more liberal and idpozzed and theorylet

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malthus

I know Marx hated this guy, but given the ecological crisis was he right at all? population can't increase forever

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worth the price

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrLFQnlf6lQ WORTH THE PRICE? Joe Biden and the Launch of the Iraq War

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Just got a job where I write patents for big companies, my boss is so bourgeois he owns dozens of fancy cars and flaunts them at work, and the very nature of the job means there are probably no lefties. At least I can pay my bills and afford nice things now though...

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Does your country has any internal colony regions? Any internal periphery underdeveloped regions? Is there any hope in organizing in these often rural sparce areas?

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Moderation feedback is moving to /gulag/!

Hello everyone, we have decided that in order to reduce the number of stickies, moderation feedback will be moving to /gulag/. This also means you can make new topics about your specific issues, which will hopefully make it easier to keep track of things. The old moderation topics will remain up for a few days to make everyone aware, and while we consolidate the most important points of the rules into the reading list topic. Thanks for your attention.

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Failed Capitalist States

One of the easiest pits to fall into when a young person tries learning about socialism is "le doesn't work" "proved" with examples of socialist states ultimately failing. We could spend a while talking about why (western sabotage, revisionism, third-world conditions), but something I feel always gets left out is the failure of capitalist states to achieve prosperity (particularly in South America). So let's talk a bit about Capitalist states that failed and why

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>Left-wingers <Sure this person supports almost everything I do except one thing. So let's cancel and denounce them any chance I get >Right-wingers <Sure this person doesn't support 99% of the things I do, and probably outright opposes them, but they may have dogwhistled something I support one time, so now they're deserving of my unconditional loyalty no matter what they do What explains this?

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post artwork for a nice socialist future

avoid, dread-mongering, collapse-porn and techno-phobia.

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blocks your path

>Johan Norberg was born in Stockholm, the son of former Swedish National Archivist Erik Norberg and his wife Birgitta. He grew up in the suburb of Hässelby in western Stockholm. In his youth, Norberg was active as a left-anarchist but later abandoned those views and became a classical liberal. According to the biography given at his personal website, Norberg was disillusioned with the anarchist view of liberty when he discovered the collectivist themes in the major anarchist works, and was unable to sympathize with the pre-industrial society which its anarcho-primitivism promoted. This realization made him embrace classical liberalism, which he felt "took freedom seriously." >He studied at Stockholm University from 1992 to 1999 and earned a M.A. with a major in the history of ideas. His other subjects included philosophy, literature and political science. During his time at Stockholm University he was active in the libertarian network Frihetsfronten ("the Liberty Front") and was the editor of its journal Nyliberalen ("The Neoliberal"/"The Libertarian") from 1993 to 1997. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTk_eGZHbNY I used to be a left anarchist like you but then i became NEOLIBERAL because anarchism is actually still COLLECTIVIST. AOC IS A COMMUNIST. GHECKMATE GOMMIES

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if social democrats are such tools of the bourgeoisie /leftypol/ pretends they are...

then how come they still get censored and blacked out just as much as communists? if not more so. Chapo Trap House is widely regarded as socdem, and yet they were deleted in the reddit purge while /r/communism and /r/fullcommunism coexist with reddit freely. even /r/accelerationism still exists, the very people that accuse socdems of being such "tools". it seems like acclerationists and other anti-reformists aren't as dissident as they thought they were. it seems like -- dare I say it -- that anti-reformists are tools of the state?

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Eurofag confused about Ba'athism

I've read conflicting shit about its attitude towards historical materialism. One on hand a source claims that Aflaq deemed Ba'athism to be a response to materialistic communism. (Devlin, John F. (1975). The Ba'th Party: A History from its origins to 1966 (2nd ed.). Hoover Institution Press. ISBN 978-0817965617.) Another summary claims that he was chill with it. (don't have source rn, just from memory) Help?

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Interesting photos

Post weird/interesting photos of leftists

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rare communist images

Post your rare images of communist events, figures, countries, etc.

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NO HOW COULD XI JINPING DO THIS BROS

A 10 billion yuan (US$1.42 billion) ‘Happy Town’ project was supposed to be an emporium of sex toys, but has now been shut down by the government China cracks down on ‘themed towns’ in a bid to stop local governments wasting coronavirus stimulus funds State planner said local governments should return to ‘rationality’, in a move to cut down on frivolous infrastructure projects >Local Chinese governments will no longer be able to build the extravagant and controversial “themed towns” that popped up around the country after Beijing’s post-global financial crisis infrastructure splurge, the country’s state planner has announced. >Instead, the government is demanding a return to “rationality” after a number of high profile failures added to concerns over regional economies wasting central government stimulus funds. >The National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) said in a notice published on Wednesday that “fake themed towns” should be eliminated, and published a list of offenders who had built them. Those considered legitimate by the agency will continue to enjoy government support. >From 2016, the Chinese government had promoted the construction of these “themed towns”, which were supposed to dot the vast countryside with beautiful, liveable villages, while boosting local economies through attracting major investments. >But the initiative was plagued with gimmicks, scams, and poorly thought through plans, leading to massive levels of wasteful spending and empty or half-completed projects. >A 10 billion yuan (US$1.42 billion) project dubbed “Happy Town” was located in the city of Yucheng in the Yangtze River Delta. It was supposed to include a sex toy shopping street, a sex exhibition centre and an “adult-only” hotel, but is now home only to a smattering of grapes, mulberry trees and turtle ponds. >Last year JC Group, the private company behind many themed town developments including Happy Town, collapsed, raising concerns over fundraising and exposing the huge risks behind the country’s state-led, debt-fuelled development drive. >Dozens of senior executives from JC Group were detained by police in April last year on charges of “illegal fundraising”, leaving many investors scrambling to recoup their money. >Happy Town wasn’t the only project that became problematic. >The Taihe project in the capital city of Hainan province, Haikou, was among those named by the NDRC for disguising a property development as a themed town, along with Hengyang city’s Jinjialiyuan town, which turned out to be an agricultural project. The cities have been ordered to stop marketing their projects as themed towns. >Others, including a “paper-cutting town” in Anhui province’s Huainan city, “Kung-fu Town” in the central Chinese city of Baoji, and “Gobi Agricultural Town” in Linze County in the far northerly Gansu province, have been eliminated due to lack of feasibility, the NDRC said. >The Babaozhuang Town project in Guangnan County was called out for its adverse environment impact and ordered to return 10 million yuan in subsidies to the Yunnan provincial government. Wannian County in Jiangxi province was censured after its themed town project was found to be illegally occupying farmland. >“All regions have comprehensively corrected and self-examined, eliminating a number of ‘problem towns’ and made efforts to promote the development of themed towns on a rational track,” read the NDRC notice, adding that regions should “rectify or eliminate” the initiatives. >Li Tie, director of the NDRC-linked think tank, the China Centre for Urban Development, attributed the failures of themed towns to local governments’ failure to consider market economics, in an op-ed published by Caixin magazine last month. >“The real question is how to allow such development, according to actual economic and social factors, which means that the entrepreneurs and various populations to choose, a small town or a central city, whichever is suitable for them,” Li wrote. https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3091561/china-cracks-down-themed-towns-bid-stop-local-governments

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If one works in the service industry, it goes without saying that when dealing with customers, they are expected to engage in the highest level of kiss-assery they possibly can. With that being said, does being an asshole to customers count as workplace sabotage? If I go out of my way to treat customers like absolute dog-shit to give my workplace a bad reputation, am I sticking it to my boss, or just being a dick?

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2020 Red Scare

How tf are Trump and the Dems doing a new Red Scare when there are no fucking reds? I don't think these people even remember what a communist looks like, wtf is this?

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Does /leftypol/ believe that your ancestry entitles you to certain regions of land?

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If Capitalism was a Movie how would it end?

I always imagine Sumon, Vanguard of the Proletariat sheathing his sword and turning his back to spare the life of Lord Uncle Sam Jinping, the CEO of Capitalism, when Sam Jinping in his treachary goes for a final murderous blow; when suddenly lightning strikes and destroys the cliff they're on, sending Sam Jinping to his death while Nature itself exacts its revenge on the leader of Capitalism Has anyone else ever thought of this?

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Am I not allowed here if I think this guy was rad?

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The self conscious fascist

I have noticed a sort of horseshoe between the far left wing of the anti-racists and the far right wing of the fascist movement. If you were to ask the fascist why he is a fascist, he may give some long ramble about western civilization, but the final answer is that he is simple a white man acting in his own best interest and that any white man who is not a fascist is betraying their own interest and some sort of cuck. If you go to the far left anti-racists, J. Sakai or Terrain Butch Lee, you will get a strangely similar answer. They will say, "Its simply in the interest of the white man to be a fascist. If they become a socialist, an anti-racist, they are harming their own interests and are foolish or egoist at worst and self-sacrificial at best. Could a white person be in that sense, a self conscious fascist? A fascist who fully knows that America and Europe are white supremacist societies, believe all the things that Sakai believes in about the material impossibility of class solidarity between white and black workers, and take this to the logical conclusion and say essentially, "Yes, I am a fascist. I'm just following my best interest like everyone else."

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The American Revolution

The 4th has come and gone yet again, stirring up a shitstorm here in my beloved homeland the good 'ol US of A. I can already hear the Sakaist schizos decrying the commemoration of this significant event in world history as nothing more than a "$ettler KKKolonial yt rebellion to steal TURTLE ISLAND from indigenous folx of kolor." For those of you who don't smoke crack though, maybe we might have a chat about what America's revolution changed both for better and worse. Contrary to what you might expect, Soviet intellectuals tended to look at the American war for independence in a critical yet largely positive light: >The American Revolution, which in its own time was the model of a revolutionary war, exerted an influence on the struggle of the European bourgeoisie against feudal absolutist regimes. Approximately 7,000 European volunteers fought in the ranks of the American army, including the Frenchmen the Marquis de Lafayette and H. Saint-Simon and the Pole T. Kosciuszko. During the Great French Revolution the insurgents made use of the organizational experience and revolutionary military tactics of the Americans. The victory of the North Americans in the American Revolution promoted the development of the liberation movement of the peoples of Latin America against Spanish domination. The revolution was hailed by the progressive people of many countries, including Russia, where A. N. Radishchev celebrated it in the ode “Liberty.” https://espressostalinist.com/2016/02/15/the-great-soviet-encyclopedia-on-the-american-revolution/?fbclid=IwAR3VFLGZfmdbBNKOtLweSsjHq4whdj_roJ2PspTb46vPl0n6o3bfh2xQ2EY Hell, even Lenin himself recognized that the victory of the colonists against British domination was a progressive development in history, even if it required occasional steps backwards, as all revolutions do: >I shall not hesitate one second to enter into a similar “agreement” with the German imperialist vultures if an attack upon Russia by Anglo-French troops calls for it. And I know perfectly well that my tactics will be approved by the class-conscious proletariat of Russia, Germany, France, Britain, America—in short, of the whole civilised world. Such tactics will ease the task of the socialist revolution, will hasten it, will weaken the international bourgeoisie, will strengthen the position of the working class which is defeating the bourgeoisie. The American people resorted to these tactics long ago to the advantage of their revolution. When they waged their great war of liberation against the British oppressors, they had also against them the French and the Spanish oppressors who owned a part of what is now the United States of North America. In their arduous war for freedom, the American people also entered into “agreements” with some oppressors against others for the purpose of weakening the oppressors and strengthening those who were fighting in a revolutionary manner against oppression, for the purpose of serving the interests of the oppressed people. The American people took advantage of the strife between the French, the Spanish and the British; sometimes they even fought side by side with the forces of the French and Spanish oppressors against the British oppressors; first they defeated the British and then freed themselves (partly by ransom) from the French and the Spanish. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/aug/20.htm I bring these up in response to an utterly braindead article published by counter-punch a couple days ago by some faceless rando named Paul Street who seems to be under the impression that white Americans need to be self-loathing libs who surrender any remotely positive interpretation of their history in order to be "true revolutionaries" today: >The white North American settlers’ counter-revolution was a great slavery success – at least until the Civil War, when another white secession and military necessity compelled Abraham Lincoln to follow in Lord Dunmore’s footsteps by liberating and arming black slaves. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/03/the-racist-counter-revolution-of-1776/ Why is it so impossible for those on the left today to contextualize capitalism as a MASSIVE improvement over feaudalism? Yes, slavery was an abomination. Yes, the conquest of the Americas was a crime unparalleled in human history. That does not mean the perpetrators of these grave injustices were not improvements over their predecessors. It does not mean that the ideals of the American revolution have not continued to echo through history, leading even renowned anti-American freedom fighter Ho Chi Mihn to quote Thomas Jefferson at a ceremony to commemorate the founding of a socialist republic. Reality is full of strange ironies such as this which many lefties today seem deaf to.

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Are there any communist terrorist groups in the world? Are they relevant? What have they done ? >inb4 glow

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Nazarbayev and Kazakhstan

So what are /leftypol/'s opinions on him and Kazakhstan?

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Training revolutionaries

Back in the day there was the International Lenin School, Communist University of the Toilers of the East, Patrice Lumumba University and other institutions in the USSR and other socialist countries where they trained revolutionaries from around the world. Many future communist statesmen, party leaders and revolutionaries studied in those schools (and even non-communists like Ali Khamenei). Is there any schools like that today? Does China, Cuba, DPRK or other countries train professional revolutionaries? That would be very good, since back in the day those guys with the training got shit done.

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Neonazis BTFO thread:

Dump all your pics, videos and webms of neonazi and far-right toughguys getting a dose of reality.

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Does anyone have a copy or a pdf of the Young Patriot newspaper? I have found a lot of the Black Panther newspaper, but there seems to be almost nothing except the covers for the Young Patriots.

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recommendations

what's a starting point for people who want to get into theory?

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Richard Wolff

So is he good? I've been getting advertisements for his Masterclass on Youtube, and it surprised me. Why are Marxists able to afford advertisements, lol? https://youtu.be/a1WUKahMm1s

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blocks your path

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/bolshevism-then-and-now/2017/11/06/830aecaa-bf41-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html >Like their predecessors, the neo-Bolsheviks are also liars. Trump lies with pathological intensity about matters small and large, and he lies so often and so obviously that it is not even necessary to cite his uncounted falsehoods again here. But he is not alone. Recently Le Pen was charged in an investigation into her anti-European party for cheating the European parliament out of money. The Law and Justice party pretends that its attacks on the Polish constitution are nothing more than "judicial reform." Orban has hidden the probably corrupt details of Russian investment in a nuclear plant in Hungary. These are not coincidences. Nor is it a coincidence that the most successful neo-Bolsheviks have all created their own "alternative media," starting online and moving into the mainstream, specializing in disinformation, hate campaigns, racist jokes and organized trolling of opponents. (The old Bolsheviks used to call this propaganda, and they were brilliant at it.) Both the politicians and the "journalists" lie out of conviction, because they believe that ordinary morality does not apply to them. In a rotten world, truth can be sacrificed in the name of "the People," or as a means of targeting "Enemies of the People." In the struggle for power, anything is permitted. The alt left marxists in america and trump are both BOLSHEVIKS. The only solution is liberalism and capitalism. GHECKMATE ALT RIGHT AND GOMMIES

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You literally can't refute this. Capitalism isn't that bad. bumplocked: bait (american-tier history education)

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Feudal Mode of Production

I'm interested in learning more about the Marxist conception of feudalism. I've been thinking about how societies transition between modes of production, with revolution and technological development being the primary forces driving change. Here are a few questions: 1.)What technologies were developed that allowed for the rapid accumulation of capital? 2.)What are some of the important bourgeois revolutions that occurred that spurred the transition to capitalism? 3.)How fast and smooth was the transition from feudalism to capitalism? Were there any feudal institutions that survived into early capitalism, or even until today? I've been thinking about this a lot lately because of marxist theory that describes a transition stage between capitalism and communism, and I want to have a better understanding of how capitalism transitioned from feudalism. Any reading recommendations are welcome as well!

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Pro burger thread. Post burger propaganda

Have you paid your daily israel tax anon?

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Brazil/Bolsonaro

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I am so fucking sick of this Honestly the latest push in idpol is jarring for me. it's so clearly designed for porky to defend and fortify his position on the top My lib friends have totally swallowed porky's latest false consciousness hook, line and sinker. As if talking about "trans black women" is the most revolutionary thing you can do. How long until we have JP Morgan executives lecturing us about how talk of wealth expropriation and socialism is a "dead white male ideology"? I've actually heard this line from a supposed leftist. It's so clear that it's a tool of those in power

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Social policy interventions do not change the fact that jobs are gone and relocated abroad, that people compete not only against cheaper products but also against cheap labour from abroad, that despite this development, they are being crushed by the coastal elites ("learn to code") and forgotten by politicians. This is the eroded American dream. How can communism fix this?

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thoughts on the fish hook theory?

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Who here has taken the ghost pill? Where have all of the post-lefties, individualists, illegalists, and egoists gone? Has anyone here escaped the wage cage, or capital as a whole, in favor of making money through shady ways, or going off the grid and living an alternative lifestyle? Tips would be much appreciated, I'm done waiting; I want my liberation. Also to those who would decry this as bourgeois escapism or lifestyleism, I ask: why are you such masochists?

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What can be learned.

So it’s pretty obvious that CHAZ has failed. This thread is took look at why it failed and learn what can be done better next time.

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What has Social-Democracy done for you?

Lets go over a brief overview of the multiple countries that Social-Democratic governance had or has rapidly improved since its delimitation as its own ideology around the time of World War 1. >Virtually the entire Anglosphere (especially the UK Aus NZ and Canada) >Virtually the entirety of the European continent west of Warsaw. >Most of Post-Independence Indian history under the INC >Ending Apartheid in South-Africa under the ANC >Brazil, Chile, Bolivia, Ecuador etc all the pink tide nations >Mexico under calles and Cardneas >Any of the Soviet bloc countries where Social-Democratic governance in the wake of 1991 prevented Russia 1993 tier economic collapse. If you live in any of these countries or lived in them during the period the Social-Democrats were in power you owe infinitely more of the lifestyle that has been achieved to your respective social-democratic movement then to your favourite Trotskyite internationale or true Marxist-Leninist-Maoist party with 5 members. <"B...But some of these places were overthrown/Became Revisionist overtime!" The same can be said of most Marxist nations and movements <"B...A,B and C were overthrown that shows its implausible because porkie will never let the..." The same can be said of most historical marxist nations. There is no point frittering your time away with arguing over whether Chairman Gonzalo or Mao are better or who would have been the better Minister for the soviet economy in 1982 when the greatest opportunity for socialist movement is ready made and able to be exploited for the working classes benefit in most countries. <The fundamental demands of Social-Democracy. 1. The Nationalisation of all industries that directly take from the nations natural bounty and resources. 2. Encouragement for the collectivisation of industry and agriculture through economic support and law. 3. Strong Wealthy Inheritance taxes, Taxes on corporate bodies, and so on. 4. Prioritisation of achieving maximum possible employment and stabilising inflation instead of NeoLiberal position of favouring austerity and fiat debt reduction 5. Free on use secular public schooling, Free on use Healthcare and a abundant welfare system for all of the nations inhabitants.

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Christian Leftist Propaganda

It's kinda wild to me that Christianity is so fervently weaponized in pro-capitalist/ pro-conservative politics when there are some pretty based sections of the new testament that pretty explicitly state yeet the rich. Lots of black working class folk in my neighborhood are very religious and the US south and appalachia has huge swaths of religious low income population that also have roots in labor organizing (coal miners etc). Is there a place for leveraging the ethics Christianity to propagandize people towards socialism/ anti-capitalism?

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Opinion of David Ruccio?

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rail appreciation thread

the previous rail thread died here's the new one post train related stuff

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Nationalist movements within the United States

What do you guys think of the various Nationalists movements in the USA and Canada? Should we support such movements, such as New England Independence or Quebec? Would a socialist world order necessitate, at the very least, more autonomy for these regions?

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/doomer/ thread

Capitalism won a long time ago The only path left is the destruction of our world and a transition from our current soft dystopia into a mask off dystopia There won't be a fucking revolution, maybe like 0.1% of Americans are class consciousness. The death of the USSR was the death of a path forwards towards an alternative to communism Honestly what's the fucking point, what's the point of continuing to fight. It's all so tiresome comrades...

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How to fix the police problem

most men join the police force because they're either a. psychopaths b. bullies c. the bullied, they join because they want to be big and strong and dominate the weak. They get to drive big trucks with big army guns and play out military fantasies on civilians. So I propose we simply replace their big SUV trucks with tiny little pussy cars. Take away their toys, their big military guns and suddenly the police force wouldn't be so appealing to these knuckle dragging psychos

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ANARCHIST GENERAL Discuss all things Anarchism on this thread! from Kropotkin to Rojava. Why are there so many Anarcho-somethings? Most Anarcho somethings are like when you put Marxist in front of another ideology, like when you see Anarcha Feminism, think like what if it was "Marxist Feminisim" obviously that would not be its own ideology, it would be a Marxist analysis on feminism, the same happens in anarchism. obviously there are some other ideologies than just anarchism, but if you think about it this way, you will probablly understand what is what. THEORY https://theanarchistlibrary.org/special/index LIST OF ANARCHIST COMMUNITIES BY WIKIPEDIA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_communities also, no, CHAZ is not anarchist

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Any predictions on what this will do? My bet is another Intifada.

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Anti-Fascist, Anti-Nazi memes

Post memes making fun of Nazis countering chan memes

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im fuming, im so fucking MAD and this is making me ANGRY. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY FUCKING RADLIB YOUTUBE CHANNELS. ARRHRGRARHGRAHRG IM FOAMING AT THE FUCKING MOUTH THEY MAKE ME SO FUCKING MAD WITH THEIR WORKER CO OP RICHARD WOLFF SOVIET BULLSHIT. "HOW BAD WAS STALIN" RARGHARGARGH I WANT TO FUCKING EXPLODE WHO GIVES A SHIT STOP IT. STOP IT. STOP IT. STOP IT. YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE. WHY DON'T I SEE ANYONE ELSE TALKING ABOUT THIS. BULLSHIT FUCK SHIT MARKET SOCIALISM COMMODITY WORKER PRODUCTION BULLSHIT ONE OF THEM WANTS A FUCKING FREE MARKET TO BUY AND SELL HOUSES AHRGARHRAGRHAGRHARGH SOME OF THEM THINK MARKET SOCIALISM IS MEANINGFUL. THEY TALK ABOUT DUMB DUMB BABY SHIT AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMENTS THINK THEY'RE SO SMART. THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. THEY JUST CIRCLEJERK WEIRD CAPITALIST NONSENSICAL DRIVEL. THEY GARGLE AND REPEAT DUMB FUCKING WORDS AND USE BOOKS AS A SHIELD AGAINST CRITICISM. YOU GUYS GET THIS RIGHT? THEY USE BOOKS LIKE "REFORM OR REVOLUTION" TO HANDWAVE ACTUALLY HAVING TO FUCKING EXPLAIN ANYTHING. SOVIET DUMB STALINISTS JUST WANT TO HAVE WORKER CO-OPS AND THEY THINK THAT YOU CAN'T REFORM CAPITALISM INTO THAT. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT REVOLUTION IS. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT CAPITALISM IS. ANARCHO-HYBRIDISM. SHOOT ME. PLEASE. FUCKING KILL ME. MORE ON THE BOOK THING. ONE OF THEM RECOMMENDED THAT FUCKING DIALECTS BOOK BY STALIN. THE GUY THAT KILLED HIS HEGEL TUTOR. DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE FUCKING WANK OFFS USING "DIALECTICS" AND "SCIENTIFIC" ARHJAGARGHRAGHRRHRHRHRHRH GOD PLEASE PUT AN END TO MY SUFFERING. ROSA LUXEMBURG DIED AND GOT THROWN IN A CANAL SO THAT HER LIFE'S WORK COULD BE SUMMARISED AS "i think that revolution is necessary to make workers control their means of production because im a fucking twat." "PERSONAL PROPERTY. NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY." IF ANYONE YOU KNOW SAYS THIS, SHOOT THEM IN THE FUCKING FACE. THEY DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT AND GET THEIR INFORMATION OFF OF YOUTUBE. TO BE HONEST, THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BAD THING BUT ALL THE FUCKING YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE BAD EXCEPT FOR LIKE 2 CHANNELS. PLEASE. READ. SOMETHING. ANYTHING. STOP WATCHING YOUTUBE VIDEOS. OR KILL ME. WHY DO THEY HAVE SUBSCRIBERS. ARJAHRAHRARJAHRJ YES IM JEALOUS YOU GOT ME. IM ANGRY THESE FUCKWADS WHO DON'T THINK, GET OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T THINK, TO NOT THINK SO HARD THAT THEY BELIEVE IN THEIR BULLSHIT. SORRY IF I HAVEN'T BEEN USING COMMAS JUST REALISED A LOT OF THIS MIGHT BE UNREADABLE HOPE ITS OK :) BEFORE I STARTED RIGHTING THIS I HAD POINTS IN MY HEAD BUT I'M JUST IN A FIT OF RAGE NOW. CALL ME AN INFANT. I DARE YOU. SAY I HAVING A FUCKING SHITTY MEME DISORDER. SUBSTITUTE INSIDE JOKES FOR NOT BEING A DUMBASS. FINAL WORDS: IF YOU SAY YOU HATE ANCAPS BUT YOU TALK ABOUT WORKER CO OPS STATELESS COMMODITY PRODUCTION YOU DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY.

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How do we get people to demand socialized healthcare?

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How much does /leftypol/ tip their essential service workers/fellow proletarian comrades?

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Loophole in socialism

Let's say we're in socialism. Now someone takes their spaceship and goes into space and expeirences time dilation. Doesn't matter how, maybe a small black hole opened up close by or they fly fast around the sun or something. Anyway, while 4 months pass here on earth, they experience 66 years in their space. All these 66 years they spend laboring. Now when they return to earth after 66 years(only 4 months for us), they demand to be compensated for 66 years of labor. How are they not justified in becoming a new king and being entitled to all of society's labor, at least until their 66 years of labor is paid off? How do we prevent this from happening in the future? Someone will attempt it.

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Are wage workers in non-productive sectors proletarians?

Been watching some Moishe Postone lectures on youtube and part of his thesis is that the traditional Marxist idea that the working class will grow indefinitely needs to be left behind, because of capitalism's tendency for technological change means machine-labour replaces human labour. I'm also thinking of Cockshott's video on Marx's reproduction schemes from Capital vol. 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6jM8yhzSmA There he shows that workers in the "luxuries" sector are not exploited; only workers in the first 2 sectors produce value so only they are producing surplus-value and being exploited. So are workers in non-productive/luxury sectors not proletarians? since they're not producing value and not being exploited? I can understand this applying to like the PMC class: salaried office workers who just manage production processes. But what about, say, the guys in the factors that make fidget spinners? - they're producing a commodity but it's a luxury commodity in a non-productive sector.

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What are the major differences between Third World countries and First World countries in terms of waging revolution? Do you guys think incoming automation and losing the dollar hegemony to China will result in a revolutionary USA? How should we approach it? Will there be an Urban front and a Guerrilla front? What are the classes in the USA and how should we organize them?

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If the Whites won, would they have been able to industrialize and advance Russia the same way the Bolsheviks did and better handle the problems the country faced, or were they too splintered to be effective and would have collapsed within months of victory? During WW2 I think they would have immediately either joined or capitulated to the Nazis, too.

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kuomintang

what went wrong ?

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Lefty Org General - /lfg/

So I made a CPUSA thread in the past, and I saw we have a FRSO thread on here. I'm pretty sure, also, that the IWW has made some kinda presence on /leftypol/ To avoid the bloat of different (usually American) based parties all making their own threads, I'd figure it'd be for the best to have a general thread for leftist organizations to inform people of general goings on, to recruit, and collaborate on shared projects. Organization Sites >CPUSA http://www.cpusa.org/ >FRSO https://frso.org/ >PSL https://www.pslweb.org/ >IWW https://iww.org/ >NABPP https://nabpp.net/ >SEP https://socialequality.com/ Organization News >People's World (CPUSA Affiliated) https://www.peoplesworld.org/ >World Socialist Website (SEP Affiliated) https://www.wsws.org/ >Industrial Worker (IWW Affiliated) https://industrialworker.org/ >Rashid's Writings (NABPP Affilliated) http://rashidmod.com/ >Fight Back News (FRSO Affiliated) http://www.fightbacknews.org/tags/frso Suggestions? Honestly, I don't want this to remain an American exclusive thread, though I suspect /leftypol/ gets no small amount of traffic from the U.S. If there's any other, international parties who have members posting on here, I'd love to add them. I'm also open to adding new elements to the OP, right now I'm just linking sites + party news, but I figure we could maybe have a general summary of what each party is up to, or their tendency, or what have you. Don't be afraid to comment with suggestions! This thread isn't for me, but the whole of /leftpol/

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How to fight liberal sociology

I keep seeing liberal sociology snaking its way into left discourse, and it absolutely must be combatted. It's the "false friend" of social theory, meant to give voice to real issues and real suffering, but only as a means of obfuscating how our society actually functions and hampering those movements that let this trojan horse theory in. I wanted to take a look at them, not as "idpol", but simply as theories. All liberal sociology must be combatted, as with all liberalism itself, but two concepts have really managed to embed themselves into the discourse, and unfortunately your radlib types will defend them to the death and insinuate that any criticism is crypto-fascist heresy. Intersectionality is often used as a term interchangeable with "inclusiveness" or "solidarity", but the theory itself is a load of idealist nonsense. The idea is that there are various "oppressions" floating through the social space that can "intersect" compounding existing oppression and producing its own emergent properties. Which sounds nice at first, almost something approaching dialectics, but it serves mostly to combat the materialist conceptualization of society, specifically to transform material conditions, economics and class from the foundations around which society is organized to yet another intersection of abstract "oppressions". It's also demonstrably false. For instance, in the theory of intersectionality, a black woman should naturally be more oppressed than a black man, since she faces both the brunt of racism AND patriarchy. But history shows otherwise. While black women have no doubt faced horrible oppression, black men have regularly been lynched throughout at least American history, along with being poached by the police for slave labor in prisons, something black women aren't subjected to for the most part. Or, as another example, lesbians should have been historically more oppressed than gay men, facing both homophobia and patriarchy, and yet male homosexuality was almost always far more harshly punished than female homosexuality, which, in some placed and times, were almost treated with something akin to tolerance. And if intersectionality isn't able to accurately predict and explain real world oppression from history, what fucking good is it? It's good to considering multiple elements, and the inter-relations between them, but this is already done far more gracefully in dialectics. It's false consciousness that will invariable lead people to false conclusions about their socio-economic conditions. Privilege largely describes a real thing, the tendency for there to be implicit or clandestine preferences towards certain groups over others, but makes the critical error of elevating what is essentially not being discriminated against to the position of, well, "privilege". It gives the very real impression that not getting shot by the cops, not having the judicial system throw the book at you for minor infractions, social institutions working more or less as advertised and so on is some sort of luxury that is naturally in short supply, and this lack-of-discrimination has be be rationed out between people. Like the police have some extra-judicial killings quota and therefore the natural consequence of reducing police brutality against the black community is that they've got to start brutalizing whites. It sounds ridiculous to talk about out loud, but that's the direct implication of people who say that X or Y group are going to suffer in some way because they're going to "lose their privilege" after a oppressed group gets their justice. And I see that exact line of reasoning around A LOT and literally all it does is create a conflict out of thin air, basically for its own sake. With the recent protests, I've seen this utter bullshit rear its ugly head yet again, and I'm left wondering how we can even combat it, because while it's completely unhelpful nonsense, it's like crack to your cliquish, virtue-signaling radlib, who have way too much sway in our community.

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Workplace cucks

>Dude it’s so bullshit that our wage get lowered but the regional manager’s wage is still the same and the stock holders still get richer. <What do you expect? They obviously work harder than us. >Really? They work a hundred times harder than us? <Uh their job might not be physically hard, but mentally! Plus their work are more important anyway. >Most of their decisions are made based upon the work of people like us or analysts that only get slightly slightly higher pay than us. They practically do nothing. <You’re too much of a Bolshevik to get it that’s all. Are there any point arguing with these kinds of people? They genuinely believe that the porkies are superior than them somehow.

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Castro was reckless druing the Missle Crisis

Why did Castro wanna do first strike during the Missle Crisis and make Cuba as martyr of global revolution? If anything, Nikita Khrushchev was more reasonable not starting reckless WW3.

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Market Socialism

I'm pretty bored during quarantine. I want to learn more about Market Socialism and what society would like look under it. Saw this article in catalyst by John Roemer (https://catalyst-journal.com/vol4/no1/market-socialism-renewed) but it is unfortunately pay walled. If anyone is able to get past it please tell me and post it. Other than that I'd be interested in any sort recommendations on the literature on Market Socialism. I'm also interested in stuff that radical social democrats in Europe tried to implement like the Meidner plan. So any suggestions related to that would be good too. >NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T READ ABOUT MARKET SOCIALISM THAT IS AN OXYMORON!1!1 shut up, I want to read. I'll make my own judgment myself after I finish reading about it.

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>Capitalism was “racial” not because of some conspiracy to divide workers or justify slavery and dispossession, but because racialism had already permeated Western feudal society. The first European proletarians were racial subjects (Irish, Jews, Roma or Gypsies, Slavs, etc.) and they were victims of dispossession (enclosure), colonialism, and slavery within Europe. Is he right?

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Leftist Hacktivism General

>“Man's dearest possession is life. It is given to him but once, and he must live it so as to feel no torturing regrets for wasted years, never know the burning shame of a mean and petty past; so live that, dying, he might say: all my life, all my strength were given to the finest cause in all the world──the fight for the Liberation of Mankind” >- Nikolai Ostrovsky, “How the Steel Was Tempered” <The world in the 21st century is dominated by an increasingly moribund and irrational economic system which values profit over people and the environment. The ‘dotcom’ bubble of the early 2000s, the financial crisis of 2008 and the crisis of the early 2020s have shown that the global capitalist system is unable to deal with the social and environmental antagonisms of our times. In such times, there has been an increased interest in bringing about an equitable and green post-capitalism – a higher mode of political economy. In this situation, the most important issue is the question of how these aims will be practically achieved. While any solution will likely involve a diverse array of tactics and the participation of the masses, there is one form of direct action that has often been neglected by the left: that of ‘hacktivism’. Hacktivism is not 'revolution' but is actually a form of (illegal) direct action which can enhance the revolution and information which is available to the proletariat. Without the Stratfor leaks for example, free Jeremy Hammond we never would have knowledge of the FBI infiltration of Occupy Wall Street ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_and_the_Occupy_movement ). This is a general thread for hacktivism and hacktivist related topics.

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gommunism ebil

<HURR DURR IF COMMUNISM IS ANTI ESTABLISHMENT WHO DONT THE JOOS EVER MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT THE HOLODOMO- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Jones_(2019_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Harvest_(2017_film) I DONT EVER WANNA HEAR /POL/ BITCH ABOUT THIS EVER AGAIN in the late 2010s theres a ton of movies/tv series coming out about how gommunism is evil so SHUT THE FUCK UP POLTARD

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Lumpenproletariet and degeneracy

what is actually lumpenproletariat and degeneracy and why modern left is fond of it even by the marxist leninists?

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Left would be mainstream if people wouldn't fellate mass murderers like Stalin, Pol pot or Viet cong. Trying to convince people with something like labor theory of value won't work either since anyone with an IQ over 100 and a curious nature will immediately notice the gaps and holes in it. What's next, you think you'll convince someone educated and middle class that his labor is equilavent to that of an junkie? Lets face it, most takes here are purely contrarian in nature, like Trumps policy in opposition to Obama.

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News 7/6/20

Colombia Captures Guerrillas Accused in Deadly Car Bombing Members of E.L.N., a left-wing insurgency, were charged with taking part in the bombing of a police academy last year that killed 22 cadets, shaking a country emerging from a long civil war. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/02/world/americas/colombia-eln-bombing-arrests.html https://archive.is/Zl0SD Israeli warplanes pummel Gaza Strip ISRAELI warplanes pummelled the besieged Gaza strip late on Sunday, targeting agricultural land and civilian property which Tel Aviv claimed was a retaliation for rocket fire from the enclave. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/israeli-warplanes-pummel-gaza-strip Luis Abinader Proclaims Victory in Dominican Republic Elections With 41,16 percent of the votes counted, the Dominican Republic elections' preliminary results show the Modern Revolutionary Party (PRM) candidate Luis Abinader as the possible winner of the presidency. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/luis-abinader-leads-votes-count-in-dominican-republic-20200705-0007.html Dozens of Christian villages in Southern Kurdistan depopulated The European Syriac Union points out that more than thirty Christian villages have been depopulated during the Turkish invasion in Southern Kurdistan. The Union calls for urgent action to protect the population. https://anfenglishmobile.com/news/dozens-of-christian-villages-in-southern-kurdistan-depopulated-45081 Bolivia: MAS Calls for Intervention in the K'Ara K'Ara Conflict Basic services such as access to water were cut off in an area that held Cochabamba´s main garbage dump.Saturday afternoon, police members and army elements began an attack with tear gas and bullets against the garbage collectors, who are maintaining a blockade in the area. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/bolivia-mas-calls-for-intervention-amidst-kara-kara-unrest-20200705-0001.html China & India pull troops away, set up ‘buffer zone’ in Himalayas weeks after bloody border clash – reports Chinese soldiers have moved their tents and other structures away from the site of the bloody melee in the Galwan River valley that took place last month, Indian media reported, citing official sources. Indian troops are said to have pulled back as well, and a buffer zone was set up between the soldiers from both sides. https://on.rt.com/al4g Iran is negotiating 25-year strategic accord with China, Zarif says Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said on Sunday that Tehran has been negotiating a 25-year accord with China whose terms will be announced once a deal is struck."With confidence and conviction, we are negotiating a 25-year strategic accord with China," Iran's top trading partner, he told a stormy session of parliament. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-negotiating-25-year-strategic-accord-china-zarif-says Philippine court asked to annul Duterte-backed anti-terror law Three petitions filed by opposition Congress member Edcel Lagman and two lawyer groups also sought a temporary restraining order against use of the law, which President Rodrigo Duterte signed on Friday after fast-tracking it through the legislature. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/07/philippine-court-asked-annul-duterte-backed-anti-terror-law-200706061933515.html https://archive.is/L3Gfa Australian police confine Melbourne public housing residents indoors after COVID-19 outbreak Nine high- and medium-rise public housing towers, in the inner-city suburbs of Flemington and North Melbourne, have been classified as “detention locations,” with all residents subject to the extraordinary quarantine measure. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/07/06/flat-j06.html Egypt arrests doctors, silences critics over virus outbreak As Egyptian authorities fight the swelling coronavirus outbreak, security agencies have tried to stifle criticism about the handling of the health crisis by the government of President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi. https://apnews.com/cf9528ebff1d5dd7e3b95d467d7e9418 Russia Demands $2Bln From Mining Giant Over Arctic Oil Spill Russian authorities have demanded mining giant Nornickel make a “voluntary” $2 billion contribution to cover the environmental damage caused by the Arctic’s biggest ever oil spill. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/07/06/russia-demands-2bln-from-mining-giant-over-arctic-oil-spill-a70802

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Zoomers

How based are they

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what do liberals mean when they say "coding" or "x-coded"

I see this term used a lot in social media, I can sort of imagine what "male-coded" and "female-coded" mean but then there's a post where someone described a straight person acting gay as "coding". where does all this "code" shit come from?

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Communism is unipolar?

Wikipedia on Polarity (international relations): >Unipolarity >Unipolarity in international politics is a distribution of power in which one state exercises most of the cultural, economic, and military influence. Isn't Communism inherently proposing a unipolar world order? And isn't this in essence the reason for the sino-sovjet split, because both countries expressed to be the centre of the communist movement?

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Give me literature recommendations for Anarcho-Communism.

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Basic Arguments for socialism and against capitalism

Aight so argument's for socialism and against capitalism? Like which arguments are the best and in what context and so on. Also discord retards are very annoying and currently trying to explain socialism, how it would work and why we need it and why capitalism should be abolished. Help me out guys

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Commodities and commodity production

Can someone explain these concepts to me? Is a commodity simply "something that satisfies a human want" as countless people seem to want me to believe, and is a commodity by nature produced for exchange? In critique of the gotha program, Marx talks about commodities only in reference to capitalism, but when talking about communist society refers to them as means of consumption.

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9/11 and Osama Bin Laden

Tell me the truth about Osama Bin Laden and 9/11 twin tower attack. Was Osama armed by CIA against USSR? If so why did he attack USA? Or did he? Was 9/11 an Inside job?

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What is to be done on the White South African Question (WSAQ)? They are clearly the ultra-kulaks of South Africa.

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How are people still obsessed with shitty consumer shit while the world is going to Hell?

Like, holy shit, there's so much actually meaningful and terrifying shit going on in the world, and yet people are still somehow wrapped up in media consumption. How is this possible? I don't mean shit like people just like things I don't mean people watching movies I mean shit like all the Star Wars YouTube channels bitching about Episode VIII three fucking years after it's released I mean constant vids discerning the deeper meaning of "le marvel universe" The fact that half the Breadtube crowd is still doing media criticism even though the world is unraveling around us All this fucking consoomption shit How do people do it? Literally none of this shit even remotely matters and people are religiously devoted to it somehow

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Pagan's and the Left

Should we try and attract more pagans to the left? What are your general thoughts on pagans?

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I got Varg Vikernes's account locked lmoa.

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Was Marx antisemitic

I was reading "On the Jewish Question," and it seemed he perpetuated a lot of stereotypes. I don't understand why

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why is the gaming industry so corrupt?

Seriously, imagine traumatizing your animators just so you can have a realistically bloody game. And why are soy consoomers so silent or indifferent to the way developers are treated within the gaming industry?

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White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo, doctor of philosophy in being woke

>The feedback I have heard repeatedly from people of color is that when they hear a white person claim to have been taught to treat everyone the same, they are not thinking, “All right! I am now talking to a woke white person!” Quite the opposite; some version of eye-rolling is taking place as they sign the white person off as unaware and brace themselves for yet another exchange based in white denial and invalidation. Let's read it. It's just pure ideology anyway. I haven't finished it yet. >Ctrl+F "Marx" >0 results Yep, it's trash. The book mentions race over ~130 times, but only mentions class ~20 times. That's all you need to know. Besides, what the hell would an Italian-American know about white fragility anyway? 😹

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Monkey Labour

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News 7/4/20

Former soldiers angered by UK plans for Iraq war crimes 'amnesty' The draft law, known as the Overseas Operations Bill, proposes to prevent service personnel from being prosecuted for any crime committed more than five years earlier, other than in exceptional circumstances.It would also protect British forces from prosecution in the UK for war crimes or crimes against humanity once those crimes were more than five years old. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-military-iraq-war-crimes-torture-amnesty North Korea says no need to sit down with U.S. for talks North Korea does not feel the need to have talks with the United States, which would be nothing more than “a political tool” for Washington, a senior North Korean diplomat said on Saturday, ahead of a U.S. envoy’s visit to South Korea. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-southkorea/north-korea-says-no-need-to-sit-down-with-u-s-for-talks-idUSKCN24506N Explosion, Fire Break Out at Iranian Electric Power Station, State Media Report A video and photos circulated around social media show the fire that allegedly broke out after "an explosion occurred at one of the power generators," Al Arabiya quoted the head of the local fire department as saying, and added that the explosion is likely to be a result of high temperatures. https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/iran/.premium-explosion-fire-break-out-at-iranian-electric-power-station-state-media-report-1.8969551 https://archive.is/WLbpS Venezuela: Arrest warrants for Guaido's ad hoc central bank board Saab said the orders of apprehension were requested for the crimes of treason, usurpation of functions and association to commit crimes. He added that all those involved lived outside the country, and did not rule out international actions to carry out the arrests. https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/venezuela-arrest-warrants-guaido-ad-hoc-central-bank-board-200703194014985.html https://archive.is/6pKzw Egypt court upholds 15-year sentence for prominent activist Ahmed Douma Ahmed Douma, who has been imprisoned since 2013, was swept up in a crackdown following the military ousting that year of Mohamed Morsi, Egypt’s first and only democratically elected president. Douma, 34, received a 25-year prison sentence in 2015 on charges of clashing with security forces, but a court overturned the ruling in 2017 and ordered a retrial. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egypt-court-ahmed-douma-15-year-sentence-prominent-activist Turkey convicts Taner Kilic, three others of 'terror' charges The court also convicted three other human rights activists - Gunal Kursun, Idil Eser and Ozlem Dalkiran - of charges of aiding a "terror group", sentencing them to one year and one month each. Seven other activists, including German citizen Peter Steudtner and Swede Ali Gharavi, were acquitted of the charges. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/07/turkey-convicts-taner-kilic-terror-charges-200703143138639.html https://archive.is/O26V8 Car Wash Case: Brazil's Authorities and FBI Colluded Illegally "By unofficially sharing information with FBI agents, the CW task force disrespected national sovereignty and illegally used confidential data from Brazilian companies," Aragao said, assuring that the suspicions against Dallagnol are very serious because they show that the CW task force was acting completely illegally and was out of control. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Car-Wash-Case-Brazils-Authorities-and-FBI-Colluded-Illegally-20200704-0004.html Trudeau Faces Probe for $664 Million Canada Charity Contract Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is facing a probe over his government’s decision to award a contract worth more than C$900 million ($664 million) to an organization that he and his family have ties to. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-03/justin-trudeau-faces-ethics-probe-over-we-charity-contract-cbc https://archive.is/NqLfP Thousands of delivery workers strike across Brazil and other Latin American countries Thousands of delivery workers have engaged in a strike on Wednesday demanding better working conditions in more than 10 Brazilian capitals, as well as in cities in Argentina and Mexico. It was an important demonstration of the strength of the delivery workers’ struggle, which has been intensifying in Latin America since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/07/04/braz-j04.html Coronavirus: Brazil's Bolsonaro waters down law requiring face masks Brazil's President, Jair Bolsonaro, has sanctioned a law making the use of masks in public obligatory during the coronavirus pandemic. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-53287054 Italy: Covid-19 Pandemic Kills Poorest People The Most According to ISTAT, disadvantaged socio-economic conditions expose people to a higher likelihood of living in small or overcrowded housing, limiting the possibility of social distancing.Low-income groups were more likely to work during the lockdown, which forced them to break some isolation measures. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Italy-Covid-19-Pandemic-Kills-Poorest-People-The-Most-20200703-0014.html

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/cvg/ - COVID-19 General: Cure-chan Edition

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The Gervais Principle

It isn't really related to left politics, but have you read this? What did you think? https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/

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Ayn Rand

So aside from her stance on lazze-faire capitalism, what are your thoughts as to her philosophy, I personally think it's a somewhat spooked 'version' of anarcho-egoism, but I'm not well educated on the subject.

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/Media creation/ and sourcing thread. Hi there I'm making a video rebuttal to "Is Fascism Capitalism in decay?" by a YouTuber C T. I'm looking to source some material for the video and my Marxism folder has some gaps. REQUESTS Does anybody have the picture where Hitler is appealing to the Working class and Rich differently? It's like NATIONAL socialist DEUTSCH arbeiter PARTEI and national SOCIALIST deutsch ARBEITER PARTEI Also any info and sourcing you have on the capitalist nature of Fascist Italy from early 20s through the late 30s

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Is the United States now 1930's Spain?

>Unstable clown government getting weaker every second >Both sides of the political spectrum getting more radical >Tensions brewing between political groups and police >Many people preparing for civil war, as it seems inevitable at this point It might not be the perfect historical fit, but damn, does it come close.

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>1939: jews are held in concentration camps being worked to their deaths >2020: Somali migrants are jumping from poorly assembled raft boats to swim towards the shores of Italy for the opportunity of working to their deaths Why don't /pol/tards understand that they're already living in a fascist system?

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Question

Everytime i tell someone i am a Marxist-Leninist people always tell me that Karl Marx is racist, how do i defend myself whenever this happens?

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Is there a Socialist or Communist view on futures contracts or derivatives in the markets?

Pretty much summed up my question in the subject. Am fairly new to learning about leftist and Marxist politics and economics - so thought I'd just ask. Basically an example of a derivative would be put and call options on an equity. You're sort of 'betting' on whether it'll go above or below a certain price by a certain date - and it also functions as a quasi-futures contract where you become eligible to buy or sell at the price if certain things happen in the price action. There's not really much labor behind these derivatives, as far as I can tell but their value can be very high. Futures contracts in and of themselves are agreements to deliver for example, crude oil, on a certain date or within a certain month, at a certain price per barrel. When these futures contracts are traded in an open market like the CBOE or CME (see E-Mini WTI Crude Oil Futures Contracts), the 'free market' dictates what the contracts are worth. Just within the past couple months we saw this go negative for that specific commodity. OK, thank you.

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contemporary theory books

theory books and so on from the 21st century (or before) post them here I.e. Mark Fisher, Zizek etc... explain the books and so on or hell post articles or whatever you wish.

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Are you supposed to read everything?

I'm someone who aside from some core convictions is a turbulent, easily influenced, and let's say a mentally weak individual (I often experience existential crises). I also struggle with motivation, so what little motivation I have left is a precious resource for me. When someone is trying to, subtly or not, push a figure like say Nietzsche onto me for example my instinct is to immediately dismiss the attempt. "But have you even read Nietzsche?" they ask. Well, I've read Trotsky's critique of Nietzsche, and I have read some bits about Nietzsche's life, is that not enough to get a rough grasp of who Nietzsche is, what he stood for, who his followers are? Apparently not. You MUST read Nietzsche to be able to dismiss him your circumstances be damned. Yeah well you know what fuck you, Trotsky called Nietzsche toxic, I trust Trotsky on this one, furthermore I myself can confirm that that which I know about Nietzsche has indeed given me the impression that his writings are poison for my own mind. The hypocrisy here is the fact that nearly none of the these types of people who criticize fascism have read fascist philosophers or Hitler's Mein Kampf. How can you dismiss fascism when you've never read the source, hm? Sniveling little hypocrite.

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How come does leftypol agree with the premise of IQ (People naturally being smarter, dumber or otherwise being prodigies) but disagree with the premise of it being quantifiable? Explain for a brainlet please

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The only good thing to come of the USSR was Ioseb Besarionis dzе Jugashvili.

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Gathering of Communists

We've had over 100 years to prepare for this moment. No more excuses, no more infighting. As soon as a vaccine is invented, let's have a general strike and completely destroy this disgusting fucking country. I don't want to hear anymore nonsense about Leninism vs Anarchism vs Maoism. I want America dead and buried before 2030 at the absolute latest. We are undergoing a climate emergency and destroying the USA is the fastest way of cutting humanity's carbon footprint. What replaces the USA isn't really that important. Eliminating China's main rival is much more important. Even if the USA is replaced by a collection of smaller bourgeois republics, that is less harmful than the continued existence of an anti-communist superpower. We will never get another opportunity like this again. If we screw this up like we screwed up Occupy, Americans will be locked into digital surveillance capitalism for at least another generation. Let's use Communist Party USA as our "gathering of communists." Join the party, fund the party, and campaign for the party, even if you disagree with their interpretation of communism. Attend meetings, not to plug your ideology, but to meet other communists. https://www.cpusa.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gathering_of_Nations I'm going to start making a "gathering of communists" thread for us to discuss how to put aside our differences. I also want to see and hear what you are doing to help. As for me, I am funding a group of comrades in the US, who are currently in a lot of danger thanks to America's failed response to the COVID-19.

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Dugin

I'm a long time fan of Caleb Maupin, but this video with him and Alexander Dugin has really a disturbing effect on me. I don't know what to think anymore.In his recent stream, Maupin has clarified, that he disagress on some issues with Dugin. For example, Dugin doesn't believe in historical progress. But overall, Maupin has a suspicious positive opinion on Dugin. According to Maupin, Dugin is not a fascist. I'm not very familiar with Dugin and his "fourth political theory", but what I've read so far, is very concerning... I just think its weird, that a leftist has a positive opinion on a theorist, whose work is usually admired by people like the identitarian movement. Is anyone of you familiar with Dugin's work? We as radical leftists, like here all kinds of personalities, which are usually considered as "controversial" such as Stalin or Mao. But some personalities are a absolute no-go, like Pol Pot or Gregor Strasser. (At least, I haven't seen open admiration for these people yet) What about Dugin? Can a leftist actually like Dugin and still be considered as a leftist?

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what makes a philosophy materialist/idealist and why would one be better then the other?

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Ben Burgis and the Cultural Revolution

God I fucking hate this fat pretentious dickhead. His opinions are worthless and he contributes absolutely nothing of value to society. With that out of my system, lets talk about China's cultural revolution. Western intellectuals are always very quick to tell you it was the most horrendous disaster in all of human history. An unmitigated tragedy. Hell on earth for everyone involved. Was it really though? Having attended an American university, I can tell you none of these people have worked a real job before. Their hands have no callouses. They have no conception of what it means to live and die by your own efforts. Academia is a lazy, apathetic place where a bunch of rich kids don't even bother to do the assigned readings and then go on to spend 40-60 years churning out brainless opinion pieces. You don't suppose some of those red guards felt that way during the 1960's right before they stuck their professors in a dunce cap and marched them to the town square for some well-deserved humiliation? The logic of the cultural revolution seems so clear: when you're a pencil pushing bureaucrat, you get to be wrong all day and never face any consequences. That ain't the case on a rice farm. Either the crops grow or you starve. Was it really so wrong so wrong to remind people of that?

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Religion

Why are most marxists hostile towards religion? People will allways want an answer to the nature and purpose of the world, and according to logic* atheism can't provide it. Adding religion as a justification for communism is also very easy for christianity, like "when all humans are equal under god, so should they be on earth". *atheism can only logicly answer the creation of the world with an uncaused cause (might as well be callled supernatural) or that it allways existed (a non-answer)

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Maoism and the Sino Soviet Split

So i've got some maoist friends who have some interesting takes on the post-Stalin USSR to say the least, and last night I had a discussion with one of them about it. He said that the USSR ceased to be socialist in the early 1960s because more power was given to the managers and because there were some factories that were operating according to profits, and you had executives that were having goods produced for the profit motive. On the other hand, in a lot of the propaganda going on during the cultural revolution, Brezhnev was frequently compared Hitler and the USSR was accused of being a dictatorship of the german fascist type. And finally, my Maoist friends brought up the concept of social imperialism and said that the USSR was imperialist, not in the capitalist sense of the word, but 'social imperialist'. They also said that Soviet imperialism was worse than US imperialism because the soviets were pretending to be socialist when they actually weren't and distorting marxism in the process. I honestly still don't know what "social imperialism" means. I just have a series of questions that id like to have answered: 1) Why did relations between the Chinese and the Soviets deteriorate so much after the death of Stalin? 2) Is there anything that could have been done to prevent the sino-soviet split? 3) Is Khrushchev revisionist? And if so, how were his policies revisionist? And when did he restore capitalism to the soviet union? 4) Why do maoists consider the Soviet Union a dictatorship of the German fascist type? 5) What is social imperialism? Can I have some examples of the soviets doing it? 6) If the cultural revolution is the answer to revisionism, how come it didn't work? 7) Was the Soviet Union state capitalist under Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, and Chernenko? 8) If capitalism was restored in the 1960s USSR, how come it didn't experience business cycles, reserve army of labor, huge gaps in income inequality, or any of the other symptoms of capitalism if this is true? 9) Can somebody link me to some books or resources for further reading on the topic? 10) and finally, why are Maoists so hostile towards other leftists orgs and so rigidly sectarian?

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>tfw I just want healthcare for gods sake why is /leftypol/ so opposed to socdems? Revolution while I support when is it gonna come? In the meantime why is reform and trying to shift to overton window left so bad?

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Will we ever see the formation of a new International?

Imo the last true International was the Comintern or Third International, the guys that famously survived the Second International's commie civil war, defeated fascism, engaged in the Cold War confrontation, and finally split in the 60s leading to its eventual defeat Trot Fourth International doesnt count That being said, which decade do you think this new International might form, why will it form, how, which countries will lead it, how will you react?

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hong kong btfo

This one should make the dengoids happy. Looks like uncle xi passed a new national security law and the honkers are deleting their social media and shit. https://archive.is/ddSqL

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NEVA GANG

i made a flag for pechora air defense i call it neva gang flag

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maxwell

is she gonna rat out all the other porkies? if she doesn't die how many rich bastards is she going to take with her?

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Maoist movie reviews

Blast from the past for you Commie-Zoomers. https://www.prisoncensorship.info/archive/etext/movies/

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Was Ceausescu nazbol?

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Porky admits defeat.

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crushing /pol/

If we can convince Hiroshima Nagasaki, 4chan's owner, to switch from a Google Captcha to a Baidu Captcha we can displace all of the American and European reactionaries from the website with sheer numbers. Mainland Chinese are unable to use the Google Captcha. It is very important that we do not let the reactionaries congregate there after Trump loses. China has almost 1 billion Internet users as of now. https://www.statista.com/statistics/265140/number-of-internet-users-in-china/ https://www.similartech.com/compare/baidu-search-box-vs-recaptcha

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Stalin

I've watched spooky scary socialist's video on stalin, and it seems like he was a cool dude, but I have some doubts, I dunno, any clarifications and shit would be absolutly lovely. vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzTy4rBVDJ8 She-ra fanart so I can make a thread.

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Is there anyway the Soviet Union could've won the Cold War

>Be the Bolsheviks >Fight a brutal civil war with every major power intervening to stop you >Win the Civil War >Country is devastated >Implement NEP >Scissors crisis >Lenin dies >Elect Stalin >Begin to massive industrialization and collectivization >bad harvests and kulak resistance >Trotsky becoming a pain in the ass and splitting the international left >Trouble in the far east with Japanese imperialists >Major power in central europe lets to power an austrian painter who's entire ideology is based on anti communism >Industrialization and collectivization begins to pay off >Trotskyites begin several plots within the party to commit treason and engage in terrorism >Accelerate the 5 year plans and militarize the Union >Germany remilitarizes the Rhineland >Brits and Frenchies do nothing >Poland and Germany make a pact >Spanish Civil War begins >Support Republicans >Brits and Frenchies do nothing >Japanese invade China >Germans annex Austria >Brits and Frenchies do nothing >Propose anti fascist coalition against Germany >Brit and France reject it >Germans annex Sudetenland and Memel >Brits sign an agreement with the Hitlerites >Germans betray it and take the rest of Czechoslovakia >Brits and French finally have enough >Germans invade Poland >Japanese invade Mongolia >Decide to bide for time and limit German influence in East Europe by signing temporary non-aggression pact with the krauts >BTFO Japs at Khalkin Gol >Move in to liberate Western Ukraine and Belarus >build up and prepare for war >move borders west >Icepick Trotsky but the damage is done and the left is split just like Trotsky's skull >Germans attack 2 years earlier then expected >desperate defense >total war >finally win the war >23 million dead >devastated eastern europe + Soviet Union >Cold war with the world's primary superpower undamaged by WW2 How under these conditions were the Soviets even expected to win a political, economic and scientific Cold War?

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is Maduro unironically a bad president?

hear me out before you get hysterical and start accusing me of being an imperialist spreading CIA propaganda. I know that the global economy has a history of abusing sanctions on socialist states like in Chile and Cuba (and even the Eastern Bloc really) in the Cold War era but I don't know if we can honestly say that this is the same. first of all Chavez didn't seem to trigger quite the same kind of reaction that you would expect towards other socialist presidents before his time -- probably because the global economy got deregulated under the Reagan-Thatcher era -- so he was able to peacefully build up his economy with European-style social democratic policies, up until the oil market crashed that Venezuela relied on, causing the recession that Maduro inherited. I'm sure sanctions are contributing to some of Venezuela's problems but why weren't they an issue under the Chavez presidency? I think to blame it all on the global economy and sanctions only paints half the picture. for example why doesn't Maduro even bother to lift the price controls on international corporations that are left over from the pre-crash Chavez economy? there's no way that this policy could be benefiting the Venezuelan economy in any way, and it most definitely taints it, and yet those price controls are still there.

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Thought about them?

The Communist Pact is a socialist federation of groups and channels that seeks propagation of marxist revolutionary content from theory to praxis. We also seek propagation of content related to the emancipation of socialist countries and third world countries, therefore, delegitimizing western propaganda. https://telegra.ph/List-of-Current-Members-of-the-Federation-07-03 (List of groups and accounts taking part) Thoughts on them?

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understanding other ideologies

what are some good reads to understand YOUR ideology? i am not trying to change my mind on my political beliefs, i just want to be well read and understand your ideology better. i do not want something like ¨why you should be a ML part 1" i am looking more or less for things like "what is ML all about part 1" dont even try to change my mind, you sectarians are annoying pic unrelated

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>2nd most industrialized SSR <30 years later >One of the poorest countries in the world >One of the worst income inequalities >Makes the rest of the developing world look good in comparison >Anti-communism enshrined in its constitution >Literal ethno-state that had neo-nazis in its government at one time How do /pol/tards explain this one?

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What are the chances of a second stock market crash this year due to the the second wave of COVID?

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https://www.easternherald.com/war/egypt-ethiopia-renaissance-dam-war-66745/ https://www.easternherald.com/gov-pol/ethiopia-88-killed-second-wave-of-protests-73327/ https://twitter.com/NicAthens/status/1279569472278405123 It seems that tensions are building up between Egypt and Ethiopia and they could go to war against each other (see first link), but we also have internal unrest in Ethiopia (see second link) and Egypt intervening explicitly in Libya against Turkish ambitions, thereby risking overextension.(see third link) Could there really be a war between Ethiopia and Egypt? And if that will happen,what would the consequences be in your opinion? Could an opening for socialism be created in the height of chaos in one of those two nations or would that be impossible?

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Is modern Germany a neo-fascist entity LARPing as neoliberal?

Basing off this anon's comment >>667058 is Germany basically just an entity that will inevitably become fascist again in its unending quest to dominate all of Europe someway, somehow?

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should we bring the old leftypol back

guys im thinking if we can bring the old leftypol at the 8chan.should we bring it back?

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Does anyone else honestly hate liberals even more than fascists?

Funny enough, what made me eventually become a communist was being an Obama loving lib that really despised Nazis, now, I still despise Nazis, but I hate liberals infinitely more. And honestly I think I realize why, two reasons really. The first is their bald-faced dishonesty, everything liberals say is a lie; even their nonsensical free speech tripe is a lie considering they'll ban "extremism" whenever things get hairy. They lie about their history, they lie about our world system, they lie about meritocracy, and, hell, they even lie to themselves. This leads into the second thing; do you want to know why libs hate commies and fascists? They define them as "extremists", and what makes someone an extremist? A desire to exit the status quo for what one perceives as better. Believing in one's own concept of a better world and being willing to struggle for it is what makes someone an extremist to libs. That is to say liberals believe in NOTHING, they once held beliefs, but now they are nothing more than what Neiztche saw as true nihilism, they effectively have no beliefs, they simply live in the status quo and robotically destroy whatever deviates from it if they cannot destroy it, liberals are not people they are machines, mindless, reactive. I hate liberals, these fucking scum, blind to the suffering and death all around them, without beliefs or philosophy, these people are empty, they are nothing. Fascists and libs both deserve to die, but so long as fascists are out of power only libs deserve to suffer as well. I fucking hate them.

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you me*toids have had it too good for too long; ARTificial Intelligence will no longer do all your dirty work for you. The comproletariat struggle is the true struggle.

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What is the single best book for understanding history from a marxist perspective? Also, what is your favourite Marxist book or pamphlet?

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How do we prevent this?

PR

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What is left of Reddit?

I intend an article involving Reddit, but I don't use Reddit and as I gather its just taken a significant hit. So in terms of the left, what is there on reddit? Which are the main subreddits? I want to hear about all of them even shitty ones.

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Neo-Blanquism

The history of the 21st century so far makes two things apparent: 1. That the western working classes are extremely allergic to independent economic and political organization. The stratified, decentralized nature of employment makes traditional unionizing very difficult outside of specific sectors, and the deskilling and social atomization of modern society makes workers wary and unwilling to create or join independent political institutions. Workers can be quite radical, and are still capable of getting out onto the street and fucking shit up, but are incapable of channeling their discontent into long-term, structured political projects capable of fighting the bourgeoisie for power. 2. At the same time, the ability of small, well-funded groups to manipulate public opinion and obtain political power is higher than ever before. The ability of intelligence agencies to foment color revolutions, manipulating popular unrest into a targeted coup d'etat is well known among leftists. Mass media has been manipulating popular opinion and perceptions of current events for decades, and the fragmented media landscape of the internet has only intensified this. Modern social media is full of bots and astroturf persuading people one way or the other, while major news networks collaborate with bourgeois states to propagate whatever Official Narrative the bourgeoisie wants. Given these two things, why not return to Blanqui's idea of small, highly-organized and secretive communist sects, created to seize the state and implement socialism? Such sects, if funded sufficiently through laundered money, could manipulate mass media in their favor, discrediting the bourgeois establishment and fomenting popular dissent. Meanwhile the sects secretly fund a political "opposition" of secret socialists, secure the loyalty of military and police forces, and stage popular protests to prompt a communist coup d'etat. The working class is mobilized, but does not need to be organized. This seems eminently more achievable than any grand Leninist or social-democratic strategy of building a mass movement. The right-wingers already think that such communist conspirators exist, why not make their dreams reality?

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Critical support for Kanye-Musk presidential bid

The legitimacy of the US democratic process is crumbling before our eyes. As Marxists we must support any candidate who will accelerate this decay. Reject the neoliberal consensus epitomised by Biden. Oppose Trump's ethno-nationalist modification. Accelerate the contradictions. Go out and VOTE

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Hip Hop / Rap Is Inherently Reactionary (Hello, cringe department?)

I saw you albino kings going bananas over this subject a week or so back, but it seems to have been cycled out the catalog, so I am going to put you right once and for all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAdAkbB04YY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiLo-Q8TVyA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQthFDpYCys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZWslqjfPE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kln9s-LsKs4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c_UdWo4Zek

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FUCK SOCIAL-FASCISM.

Social Democracy in the first world is fascist, opportunist and a direct enemy of the global working class for the sake of the global labor aristocracy. Social-"Democracy" proposes to give the working class in the first world a portion of their imperialist blood money. This compromise makes the working class unrevolutionary. They can gain much by voting and helping in more conquest, and the need to change the system is never understood. They become like the Indian scalping frontiersmen, except paid in a higher living standard to destroy the third world. Any good communist must appose all government programs in the first world. Public school and the fire department must be abolished to bring back the revolutionary spirit of the workers! All roads should be toll roads! We should always vote for Donald Trump! This message paid for by the Donald Trump Campaign.

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Are restaurants bourgeois?

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What do you think about this guy?