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For New Anons and Lurkers: FAQ, rules, and reading list

🚧🚧Please bookmark in case this current domain gets v&ed or anything else.🚧🚧 Visual Guide for New Anons Do not put your e-mail in the e-mail field First, Please read this OP. Since we're leftists, there shouldn't be many differences ideologically, but our community has its own jargon and idiosyncrasies which might be jarring to outsiders. Second, although we allow slurs, we are anti-bigotry and it will not be tolerated. Thirdly, the board has an anti-idpol rule. Meaning that discussion of idpol topics is not allowed. There is some flexibility. Where that flexibility is also requires some time to get the feel of it. Fourthly, don't put anything in the name, or email fields. Don't doxx yourself Search the catalog before starting a new thread to avoid duplicates: MOD LOG: If you wish to see the log of mod actions (ban, deletions etc...) see META DISCUSSIONS AND GENERAL COMPLAINTS AND QUERIES ABOUT THE SITE'S ADMINISTRATION: >>>/gulag/ Useful threads are often remade when expired, search the catalog if these links are broken. Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread >>983378 Internet General >>986104 Original Creations (Memes) >>956315 Market Watch >>8552 USA Unrest >>801173 Belarus Unrest >>758383 Bolivian 2020 General Elections >>1012356 Cybersocialism general >>997358 Region specific threads USA >>1065795 China >>8925 Europe >>1002330 British >>959323 DPRK >>9051 Brazil >>957256 Latina >>483387 Nordic >>818850 Hungarian >>117378 Russian >>982562 SEA >>1012123 Italia >>747462 Germany >>952123 Australia >>959779 Greece >>965423 Africa >>1017356 South Asia & Desi General >>1083432 Archived threads Leftypol Reading thread - /Edu/cate yourself and read leftist political theory. Leftybooru - To upload, tag, and organize images Leftypedia - A wiki project Streams of major news event (ie "happenings") + chat, maintained by the community new-multitude - Notes, theory and shitposts from the worldwide left via bunkerchan and elsewhere Website: Twitter: Community maintained Minecraft Server >>>/games/5010 The unofficial /leftypol/ chess club >>>/games/3544 Check out our other boards >>>/anime/ >>>/edu/ >>>/hobby/ >>>/games/ >>>/tech/ As well as our comrades over at /GET/ >>>/GET/ (funposting) >>>/ref/ (international discussion) Previous archived thread filled with reading material: >>8537

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Waa Big Brother /ourguy/?

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U.S. says China surpasses Russia as greatest threat to freedom.

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Anti Semitism Edition

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🗑️ /ITG/ – Internet Trash General 💻

Containment thread for the lowest forms of internet discussion: 💩 Social Media Screenshots 📞 E-celeb Gossip 🕸️ Internet Happenings

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What do we think of Jiang Shigong? >Jiang Shigong (born 11 November 1967; Chinese: 强世功) is a Chinese legal and political theorist, currently a professor at Peking University Law School, and a researcher on Hong Kong affairs. He is a "conservative socialist" exponent of Xi Jinping Thought and opposed to liberalism in China. Jiang previously worked at the Hong Kong Liaison Office from 2004 to 2008, and has advised the Chinese government on Hong Kong on subsequent occasions. Among his major ideas are his theory of the "absolute" or unwritten constitution of China embodied in the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party and his argument for the supremacy of the state as an "ethical entity" and the embodiment of the people's drive towards self-transformation. One of the main Chinese translators of Carl Schmitt, Jiang is a notable promoter of Schmitt's political theory in China.

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Had comrade Stalin survived for a year longer he would have launched a purge that would have cleansed the party of the corruption that brought the soviet state to fall.

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doing magick for communism

Let's discuss using esotericism and asceticism to manifest communist events and events. Fasting,chanting,sleep avoidance,not lying down,etc i studied religious antrophology a lot,so I want to apply asceticism to forward a socialist event in my country.

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I was browsing some Reddit and Instagram after a long time and I keep seeing a growing Sentiment of Leftist Thinking under some Normies. But there is still some huge Porky Bootlicking going on. Obviously Social Media is not indicative of the average Guy, but still I keep wondering. Where are we right now? Is it a 1905 situation or more of a 1870? How is the situation changing for us? Although I have a grim outlook for the next 5 years, I think there is the possibility of a huge paradigm shift in politics soon. Just look at India. I think the next Communist Takeover will be quite unexpected. What do you Anons think. Is the Red Flag slowly emerging again? Also, I have to delete Reddit. That site is probably the accumulation of the worst things that happened in the last decade in one Website.

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/Nord/ - Nordic General

The previous Nordic thread reached bump limit, so let's continue here. Let's discuss in English, so we can all understand each other (I don't want this to become a circle jerk for Swedes only). Previous thread >>290791

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How is a socialist society different from a communist society? I know that socialism is when the workers own the means of production, but I’ve never gotten a definition of what a communist society is, other than not having a state. So what is the communist mode of production and how does it differ from the socialist mode of production?

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🇨🇳/prc/ - People's Republic of China general🇨🇳

A general thread for all China related discussion

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A Marxist Analysis of the Native American modes of production.

What mode of production did the natives have? More specifically, northern planes indians? Because from what I understand, they were matriarchal clans number in the thousands who cultivated crops, rode horses, and hunted buffalo. Did they have any class distinctions? Or were they just primitive communism but with more people? From what I understand, the simplest breakdown of society and modes of production goes something like this: Tribal -> Slave -> Feudal -> Capitalist -> socialist Where do the northern indians fit on this axis? Because im pretty sure they didn't have any slaves or feudal lords. Could they be asiatic? What even is the asiatic mode of production? Does anybody have any literature on the subject?

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Gaddafi appreciation thread

Post your best images and memes of great Colonel Gaddafi

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🦅 /USApol/ 🗽 United States Politics 🏈

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Why are so many people here retarded on the ecological question?

>Partial repost of shit I put in another thread The problem is here that most people on leftypol are really only knowledgeable about Marxism, and even then I doubt many have truly read Marxist works. I’ve actually been interested in biological and earth sciences my whole life, I’ve always read much about these things. People here don’t at all understand the terrifying predicament we are in, they just say “blah, blah you are a doomer” but they only say these things out of ignorance, and I believe fear. I read, particularly into the five mass extinctions in Earth’s history, the most terrifying events ever to have occurred, people here do not comprehend mankind’s peril; we are the very last of our kind for a reason, we are big animals and require much food. Five times most life was extinguished and the world was basically forced to reform; we are likely in such a time now, our current parallel most closely resembles the very worst extinction as far as we know, save for an exception, during that time it occurred on a much longer time span and there was no intelligent race leading a mode of production that encouraged the deterioration of every corner of the entire natural world We are already in a mass extinction event, global warming hasn’t even become part of it yet, what we’re in now is a mass extinction, when global warming really kicks in we will likely end a second phase of the extinction that turns this into the Sixth Extinction, that is, of all mass extinction events this will likely become the sixth among the five worst ones; in the five worst over 75% of all multicellular life was wiped out. So far, I think, if this becomes as bad as it can, if another life form were to examine Earth’s geological record, they’ll see a mass extinction event that begins roughly 10-15,000 years ago, greatly accelerates roughly 500 years ago, gets even faster within this century, the last, and the next, and finally a massive extinction wave starting next century or the one after it. This is pretty fucking bad. Even without global warming we would already be damaging every single ecosystem on Earth simultaneously, with global warming this will likely become one of the worst extinction events Earth has experienced. Life will surely rebound one day, but, lmao, our entire genus has already gone extinct except for us, you have no proof we will survive this if it continues. I’m a communist because I see communism as this world’s sole hope to stop this nightmare, the people here can’t envision how bad it can get, but I can, any paleontologist could. People here think because people exist we will necessarily find a magical solution to this, this is childish thinking, humans caused the extinction event and while we are ingenious we also bring with us warfare and are nuclear armed at that. Humans may survive this century and the next, that does not make us immortal, and we can survive in a rather sorry state, it’s remarkable for a species that can conceive of their individual death to be unable to envision extinction; if people here want to run away into Marx never forget, the ruination of the contending classes is always a possible outcome, the contradiction between mankind and Nature can just as easily be resolved in humanity’s extinction as it can in communist ecology.

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News 12/4/20

Venezuelans go to the polls to elect new National Assembly Parties come together in broad alliances, the largest of which are the pro-revolution Great Patriotic Pole (GPP) which supports President Maduro, and the anti-revolution Democratic Unity Roundtable, commonly known by its acronym Mud. Some left-wing parties including the Communist Party of Venezuela are standing separately from the GPP this year, in the Popular Revolutionary Alternative (ARP) alliance. Indian Farmers’ Protests Spread, in Challenge to Modi Before India’s farmers rose up in anger, presenting an increasingly difficult challenge to a government already grappling with the coronavirus outbreak and a devastating economic slump, Devinder Singh set his field on fire. Armed Groups Killed Two Environmental Activists in Colombia Parra was shot by hitmen on motorcycles as he was en route to his office. He was rushed to the hospital but died shortly after the assault from gunshot wounds," Attorney General Fernando Carrillo explained. Rallies banned on December 6 anniversary of teen’s killing The Hellenic Police (ELAS) is expected to announce a ban on all public gatherings aimed at marking the anniversary of the December 6, 2008, killing of teenager Alexis Grigoropoulos by a police officer in downtown Athens. French-Lebanese businessman who once claimed to transport Gaddafi funds to Sarkozy campaign by suitcase 'arrested in Beirut' Authorities in Beirut have reportedly arrested a French-Lebanese businessman linked to allegations of illicit Libyan financing for Nicolas Sarkozy’s 2007 French presidential election campaign, on foot of an Interpol request. All eyes on Britain after Denmark announce ban on oil drilling THE Scottish and British governments have been urged to commit to ending fossil fuel extraction after Denmark announced a ban on North Sea drilling this week.On Thursday the Danish government voted to cancel the country’s next oil and gas licensing round and back a ban on future offshore licensing. Bahrain open to imports from Israeli settlements, Palestinians fume Bahrain’s imports from Israel will not be subject to distinctions between products made within Israel and those from settlements in occupied territory, the Bahraini trade minister said on Thursday, drawing a rebuke from the Palestinians. Israeli man attempts to burn down Jerusalem's historic Gethsemane Church The 49-year-old Israeli suspect allegedly snuck onto the Gethsemane Church's premises, before pouring flammable liquid on wooden pews and attempted to light them ablaze, according to local reports. Pay Russian Housewives For Domestic Work, United Russia Deputy Says Pushkina’s statement in a Wednesday interview on the Komsomolskaya Pravda radio station comes amid growing calls for governments to level the financial inequities traditionally faced by women. Last month, Scotland became the first country to guarantee free menstrual products to all who need them. Send gunboats to China to shake up REPARATIONS for unleashing Covid-19 ‘weapon’ on the world, award-winning British journo says Beijing should pay the world ‘reparations’ for the economic damage caused by Covid-19 and, if necessary, it can be forced militarily to do so, said conservative British political commentator Douglas Murray without a hint of irony.

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Was the New Left a mistake?

Was the New Left a mistake? Are they the reason why we have radlibs, neoliberalism and neocons now? These people think they aren't But are they right? Were they a bunch of bored spoiled brats? Or real revolutionaries?

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Accidentally elected leader of a 200+ org with no organising experience. What do?

I recently have been involved in a tenants union, formed mainly by anarchist and students. I've worked retail all my life and never really had to manage things other than maybe my own personal budgeting. I got elected the chair of the tenant union, since there was some beef between the other two people who ran for the position and someone nominated me instead. They don't know my political (Maoist) and I am now managing a group of 200 people in a town of about 80,000. I don't want to fuck this up. Can /leftypol/ give me any advice? Anything from guides to checklists, or just tips on how to manage medium sized organisations. I'm used to doing book clubs with 10 people max. I'm kind of our of my depth here, and just want to learn to lead good. Thanks for any advice!

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Why is there a such a heavy focus on western "imperialism" when China, South America, India and to some extent Africa experienced more brutal forms of it under native populations? I'm of course talking about the Inca, Manchu, Zulu and Mughal empires

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Hayek Is Evil

This dude basically convinced all anglo academics that there is no alternative to prices for allocation. It's basically Ayn Rand's argument that it's moral to act as selfishly as possible except much more convincing. It's why economists overwhelmingly support price gouging: Does anyone have good critiques of him?

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¿How well does leftypol know anarchism?

I am not an expert on anarchism, but I have seen some pretty ignorant takes on anarchism here. For all the talk about anarchists not reading theory, I see people here failing to understand basic anarchist concepts, like the distinction between rules and rulers and the anarchist definition of the state (monopoly on violence over a territory). In case you are wondering, I do not consider my an anarchist and I have not read much leftist theory, anarchist or not. I do understand some basic anarchist concepts though.

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Is leftism on the rise or in decline?

I keep seeing contradicting sentiments from this website some people think that the Marxism-cockshottist revolution is right around the corner because they saw a reddit post that said socialism was good with more that 1k upvotes. Others say that the left is not going to recover in our lifetimes because the modern left are actually fake socialists so which is it?

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What's the deal with Comrade Pajeet on the scooter? where did he come from? When did this meme start? And why aren't we using it more?

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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees

Második felvonás!

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Why is Poland so anti-communist? All Poles I've talked to are reactionary. One was even a neo-nazi with face tattoos lmao.

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Last thread died Post em here lmao

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Post your based or cringe MP4, WEBM files here

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What the fuck happened to libertarians?

Libertarians during the Bush era: >anti-war >anti-police >acknowledge that there is a problem with racism >the government shouldn't tell what to do in your bedroom, pro-LGBT >the US government is a criminal entity >fuck corporations Libertarians today: >literal race realists, look at the Bell Curve >MAGA >Jeff Bezos just worked harder than you >blue lives matter >fascism is a realistic option if THE LEFT becomes to powerful >the American Civil War was about STATE'S RIGHTS Is there an explanation for this cursed pipeline? Was there a conscious effort of the far-right to subvert this "community"?

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What was online socialism like in the 90s?

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The New Soviet Man

What is it and how does one become it? Post lit about it if there is any

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MANDATORY READING For a complete reading list, see: Cockshott's Patreon Cockshott's youtube channel Cockshott's Blogs Cockshott's videos torrent archive Here's the torrent with all of Paul Cockshott's YouTube channel videos up to 27/10/2020 (i.e. Eliminating inequality): Magnet link: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d5e5cc7a91228fef2ea213f816b27cfea8185961&dn=Paul%5FCockshott%5F%28October%5F27th%5F2020%29& Torrent file: This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and of course the great immortal scientist himself, 🐔WILLIAM PAUL COCKSHOTT🎆 Previous thread was apperantly accidnetally nuked by the mods, so I'm making a new one. If you've got the pdfs or maybe even some screenshots from that thread feel free to post them

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И мы опять здесь. Тред для русскоязычных пользователей Лефтипола.

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>[boogeyman] is the reason the USSR collapsed and not their own incompetence >[great man] could have saved the USSR from collapsing seriously, why do MLs cope with this? i can't be the only one who sees the contradictions here. this is literally rightoid tier mental gymnastics, going in direct conflict with the eternal science of historical materialism.

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The report published by the truth and reconciliation committee is a pack of lies The truth and reconciliation committee was a report authored in conjuction with the Peruvian state, which sought to examine the civil war, fought between left wing Guerrillas, namely, the Shining Path, and the Peruvian state. The Report found that the majority of the killing was done by the Shining Path Guerillas, but this was a bourgeoise lie. In fact: 1) many commentators have observed that most of the villages and towns questioned in the report got together and basically made up the story they would tell the investigators. 2) the truth and reconciliation committee was originally pushed by the people themselves and repeatedly rejected. It was only accepted so long as representatives from the state military (who did most of the violence) were on the committee overseeing it. Because of this 3) the forced sterilisation of a 200,000 indigenous women by the state were excluded from the report and the final numbers 4) because of the massive amount of data, a lot of the findings came from data analysis tools. These gave a variety of readings as to the question of “who did most killing” most of the models used suggested the state did the vast majority of then killing. However, one obscure model put things the other way round. Surprise surprise, using bullish tactics, the military and state managed to push through this set of figures. The model has since been attacked by statisticians and data analysts, the numbers are bogus and methodology flawed. It is, according to them, bizarre they would have attempted to use this methodology in the first place as it is not often used and largely discredited. 5) even liberal analysts say all the above things All the claims made are made by this liberal journalist, whom for some reason fails to put the pieces together even though they present all of them: For a more in depth look at why the numbers were false: Worth noting neither of the above people are communists in any way. You don't have to be some MLM Gorgonzaloist thoughtist. The report is bullshit, the state killed far more people than the Shining Path, and more brutally, and on top of that force sterilised hundreds of thousands of indigenous women. Yes, it was a brutal civil war, but let us remember the context in which this whole thing happened, fairly late on in the grand scheme of things, already in the communists in Indonesia had been massacred brutally, and fascists all over Latin America wrote 'Jakarata' on the walls as a threat to the left, as they did in Brazil during the fascist coup there. So too in Chile, the fascist coup had already taken place. What did we see in Indonesia and Chile and Brazil, an unarmed left. That is not to mention similar stories from all around the world and still more from Latin America. So what did the Shining Path do, get massacred like the Indonesians? The brazillians? The Chileans. No. They fought back, and for that pleasure, their name is smeared through history even by communists, based on a pack of lies. The bourgeoisie do not tell the truth

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Leftist perspective on te general strike that shut down Kerala province? 250 crore (250 MILLION) workers from all the major unions from Bank Tellers to Rickshaw drivers went on strike yesterday and the day before. I'm not seeing any coverage from the Left What's up?

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Howdy, Comrades. I thought this would be an interesting thread to have discussion and debate regarding Eco-socialism. Be free to post pdfs of recommended readings, place forward manuals relating to gardening/ permaculture etc. as well as be free to funpost about wildlife and solarpunk. Let's try and keep this thread comfy and somewhat respectful.

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Yugoslav Wars

Just finished reading to Kill a Nation by Parenti. Yet I feel it wasn't fully satisfactory run down. What exactly go down? Why there is videos of Serbian snipers gunning Bosnian civilians? Were the Serbs really animals as depicted by western media? Did pic related fucked up?

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I'd urge all communists to cultivate themselves by learning and studying the culture and life of another country or people. I do see it as a form of intellectual cultivation that will expand your level of consciosness. I'm studying Japanese. I'm not a weeb, I just like the overall look of Japan as a country in its various facets. Learning another language and experiencing their associated countries feels like exploring an undiscovered island for yourself. You learn the hyroglyphs, study the artifacts and learn to understand their way or seeing the world, their kind of reasoning. It's a fun intellectual adventure if you recognize it as such. It leaves you with an expanded understanding, having seen the world from another perspective. It leaves you feeling you understand humanity as a whole better. Additionally, it makes racism feel even dumber to you. There is no point in antagonizing people of other origins, but afterwards racist attacks look even pettier and dumber after thoroughly having learned about other cultures. When you know very little about another people you merely have an image in your head. An image you later begin to see as a misguided caricature. This image then turns into something three dimensional made out of flesh, life and depth. Denegrating another people by genuinely going "ching chang chong", "uighurs", "goatfuckers" ends up looking like an act of lower consciouesness once you've witnessed the richness of life, culture and humanity another people on Earth have. It gives you a stronger feeling that all on Earth have it. I heard once that astronauts feel a sense of global humanity when they look down at the blue, beautiful marble we call Earth from space. National borders vanish and you are left to look at this planet in its totality. I believe a comparable experience unfolds when you learn a language and study the culture of the people/country associated with that language. I urge my communist friends, if they have the time, to study another language and to learn about another country. It is an intellectual exercise that expands your view on what it means to be human. >inb4 nice blogpost Let me have a faithful moment when I'm usually cynical 99% of the time. Anyways, here are some nice videos that also shifted my perspective for whatever reason. Seeing history in color also has a certain feel to it.

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Thoughts on the EFF? It’s hilarious to read about the dumb shit they’ve done. How the fuck did they get a million people to vote for them?

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🦠 /COVID-19/ GENERAL-2: The Dark Winter

NOTE: Only debate Germ Theory and related science within this thread, not outside it. Thanks -Management Live Updates: Global Tracker:

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Can someone explain to me why people take spook magician's like evola seriously and literally worship him, I know fascoids are subhumans but not completely autistic to the point they take a fucking vedic nazi seriously

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News 12/3/20

Over 70 Shining Path and Movadef members captured in Peru More than 70 alleged members of the terrorist organization Shining Path were captured on Wednesday in a mega-operation carried out by the National Police of Peru, with the support of Public Ministry representatives, General Commander of the National Police of Peru (PNP) Cesar Cervantes reported. CPI Maoist Cadres Exchange Gunfire With Security Forces In Jharkhand State A brief exchange of gunfire took place between a group of CPI (Maoist) cadres and security forces in the Palamu forested area of Jharkhand state on Thursday that lead to the seizure of arms and ammunition from the Maoists. Coup-Born Regime Liable for Bolivian Airline's Debts Bolivia's Public Works Minister Edgar Montaño Thursday claimed the coup-born regime responsibility for the state-owned Bolivian Aviation Company (BoA) multi-million dollar debt. Caribbean countries call on former European slave nations to pay back their debts The call came during celebrations for the United Nations International Day for the Abolition of Slavery, which commemorates December 2 1949, when the Convention for the Suppression of the Traffic in Persons and the Exploitation of the Prosecution of Others was approved. Bangladesh begins moving Rohingya families to remote island Bangladesh has begun moving Rohingya families from camps near the Myanmar border to a settlement on a remote island, despite concerns about its safety and a lack of consent from the refugees. Turkey and its mercenaries kidnap 28 people in Afrin in 10 days According to the investigation carried out by the Afrin-Syrian Human Rights Organization, it was noted that 28 citizens, including 11 women, were abducted by the Turkish state and its mercenaries in the last 10 days. Afghan Gov’t, Taliban Announce Breakthrough Deal in Peace Talks The Afghan government and Taliban representatives said they had reached a preliminary deal to press on with peace talks, their first written agreement in 19 years of war. The agreement on Wednesday lays out the way forward for further discussion. War crimes: former minister reveals why Canada disbanded its special forces after scandal A former Canadian defence minister who disbanded his nation’s special forces regiment in the wake of a war crimes scandal similar to that now facing Australia says the drastic step was the only way to fix systemic cultural problems and repair reputational damage. Labour suspends two activists for backing Corbyn in anti-Semitism row & accusing Starmer of ‘colluding with Tories’ Britain’s Labour Party has suspended two leading members of a local organisation, one of whom is Jewish, after they publicly accused Keir Starmer of using an anti-Semitism probe to crack down on former party leader Jeremy Corbyn. Labour's Starmer urged to return donations from 'Islamophobic' businessman Labour leader Keir Starmer is facing a backlash for accepting donations from businessman David Abrahams, after it was pointed out that the property developer has a history of making Islamophobic comments.

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I wanted to discuss something I didn’t fully realize when I first listened to Cockshott suggest that the UK should have a referendum that, among other things, banned wage labor. I think banning wage labor should actually be a demand, not in an abstract or long term sense but a very serious demand. The reason is because it is actually not that radical and also achievable without expropriation, which I think makes it a surprisingly ballsy kind of policy to be serious about. That means it is actually legal, as in Congress could do it without any changes to the constitution. I also think it is a non-reformist reform, should it be achieved even in isolation. But I would preface by saying I have no illusions such a law would be passed through a conventional electoral campaign, rather it serves a broader messaging and ideological purpose to be serious about it even as you know that it is an intolerable demand. On the not that radical front, the reason I say that is because you can actually make wage labor illegal without expropriating any property, and without abandoning markets. You also don’t need to do it overnight, you can make it effective after some period of years or something. However, if you make wage labor illegal then all of the big capitalists would lose the vast majority of their wealth as soon as the law was passed. Jeff Bezos would still own his shares of Amazon, but all Amazon would own is its property, the warehouses and trucks and servers etc. Clearly this is not worthless, and Amazon would still be allowed legally to lease or sell this capital. But legally the only entity that could deploy labor on it for the kinds of services Amazon provided would be a co-operative, and it seems likely at least initially that someone like Jeff Bezos would be forced to lease his capital to Amazon Coop, but have no more claim to their profits. Amazon Coop would grow, as companies that employ labor do, and would slowly be able to buy up new capital and cease their leases with Bezos, and so all the remaining capitalists would find their capital stocks dwindling. Furthermore, as illustrated by the simple fact Amazon Coop can buy or rent any warehouse that meets their criteria, other developers can move in and build warehouses, which are not particularly difficult buildings to create. Jeff Bezos is now no longer the big owner of the commerce and tech monopoly of Amazon, he now owns a portfolio of equipment and buildings that are mere commodities, capable of being replaced. His competition has heightened significantly, so that now all the big capitalists of today will see their remaining wealth chipped away by market forces. This would not result in communism, but that is why it actually is not that radical. It would preserve everything as it is, but the only difference is new companies of associated laborers would have to form to take up the productive activity of their old companies and banks would be forced to lend to them due to the fact they can’t lend to businesses that employ people, so assuming that the legislative authority of this was secure then the money will simply flow in from the financial markets by necessity for the transition to occur. The market would literally be forced to adjust, which it is entirely capable of doing because the market doesn’t require wage labor. All it requires is commodity production and monetary exchange, wage labor is unnecessary. As I said though, I have no illusions this is actually achievable by just championing it like M4A or a $15 min wage, but it is far more radical than those policies while still being “realistic”. And the opposition to it by the bourgeoisie and establishment will reframe debates nationally on what the hell capitalism actually is, because they’d be forced to publicly confront the argument that you aren’t even depriving them of their property, you are merely asserting that people had the right to the fruits of their labor. Even if they confront you with something about “I built this company” etc. FINE! Keep it. Keep all the Walmarts in American, you own them. But you don’t own the people who work there and you don’t have an entitlement to the labor proceeds of their labor. Furthermore, this isn’t a handout on any level. The workers would have to pay the costs of doing business as the owners of the new cooperatives. They’d have to buy equipment, pay rent, and pay the upfront costs of labor. But as a consequence of these responsibilities of covering the costs, they get the surplus product that they produce. If they need to use your Walmart, they have to pay you rent for it, but you don’t get the profit of their work. It recontextualizes property and labor, it makes it very easy to begin to frame capital owners as the ones who expect to receive something for not doing any work, because the reality is their capital is not what gives them their power. It’s the fact they employ people and have a legal right to claim what those people produce, which is what is highlighted by that very argument. When you take that right away, there is no subsequent removal of their property rights. They can even still make money off of it, but they can’t make nearly the level of profits they used to make because the source of all of their profits was appropriating the product of labor, which is immediately exposed!

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🇰🇵/dprk/ -- DPR Korea General🇰🇵

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc. Archive of first ~500 posts on original thread: Subsequent archives: Related archives:

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people really stress that you shouldn’t obsess over relationships or babies for happiness. what’s the alternative? obsessing over material possessions ? some vague sense of self contentment?

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I hate the reactionary men from my country

the reactionary men in Pakistan are the absolute worst group of Muslim men in the world, they embody everything wrong with Muslim culture and Western culture at the same time, they watch porn, they use anti-feminist rhetoric but they talk about being Ghazis(Islamic warriors and conquers) and meme about ghanznawe-hind while sucking up to Arabs and Turks, I mean Baloch, Pashtun and Sindhi men are also sexist and regressive but the vast majority of them are absolutely illiterate and live in absolute poverty and have no idea about the goings of the world, and cause of their massive rates of illiteracy they get manipulated easily in the name of Islam, meanwhile Muhajirs and Urdu speakers often make up the only educated population in Pakistan and they are the ones push for the regressiveness, while keeping the parts of western culture that personality benefits them, such as western style hyper-capitalism

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OC Thread 7.0

New thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share. Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made. Archived Threads : >>8622 >>419177

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Why do classcucks defend capitalism? Believe that it will compensate them fairly? That they will go to the front of the line for their effort rather than disposed of when they no longer serve a purpose for the ends of profit?

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ITT - Times communists and liberals were forced into an alliance

Feel sad af right now bros Just want the Grand Alliance back :/

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Is Thomas Sowell right? That the worst aspects of Black-American culture are just an extension of Scottish culture?

>Sowell argues that the black ghetto culture, which is claimed to be "authentic black culture", is actually a highly dysfunctional white southern redneck culture which existed during the antebellum South. This culture came, in turn, from the "Cracker culture" of the North Britons and Scots-Irish who migrated from the generally lawless border regions of Britain. >Sowell gives a number of examples that he regards as supporting the lineage, e.g., >an aversion to work, proneness to violence, neglect of education, sexual promiscuity, improvidence, drunkenness, lack of entrepreneurship,… and a style of religious oratory marked by strident rhetoric, unbridled emotions, and flamboyant imagery. Like I'm not a /pol/tard or black nationalist troll who may actually be Indian, I find Sowells economic theories to be a dumb but I feel his explanation makes too much sense, like even the the linguistics of AAVE match up

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Mafia involvement in overthrowing capitalism

So I stumble upon this: This might had been discussed before, but I want to ask something. Is there others mafia out there that actually help us against the porkies? How about Al Capone? Was he ourguy? Or how about the Pinkerton guy that killed the alt right dude before? Pinkerton itself serve the Bezos & others porkies, isn't it? I mean not all mafia have ancap tendency, isn't it?

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Need helping naming a leftest YouTube channel.

I wanna make videos on American war crimes, the history of oppression of minorities and women and the working class in America, history of socialism in America, history of workers rights in America, etc. I'm shit at naming things. I got "Imperial Atrocities" but I feel like this dosent give off "looking out for the workering class" vibe. Help.

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Cryptocurrency and Marxism

I've been wondering for quite some time, could crypto even be abolished with communism? Would it simply be rendered worthless and people would have no reason to continue using it? The concept of 'abolishing' a crypto currency is a bit of a head-scratcher. I've wrestled with this question for a while and haven't been able to reach a solid conclusion, so I'm curious about what leftypol thinks. Additional questions: Do you consider crypto like btc to be a legitimate currency, despite having no physical component? Is it incompatible with communism, or could it be on the level of something like labor vouchers if managed correctly? I'd appreciate any well-written articles on this too. I haven't been able to find anything decent that's actually rooted in Marx's writings.

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Party for Socialism and Liberation

What do you think of them? They seem to be one of the bigger ML groups in the United States, and I saw some at a protest once.

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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

Volume 4: Finally some actual riots edition Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, jungle NPA or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us! Kiwis are welcome! South Asia can joined too I guess. Last threads

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Nazi culture and art, was it culture industry?

I do not know that much about the actual state of artistic integrity or whatever was in the actual nazi regime, but whenever I listened to Erika, it was kind of cringey to be honest and I barely ever see any actual /pol/lacks or anything actually listen to music from the nazi times (it seems like they listen to shit like screwdriver or anime music in my experiences) but I want to know if the sort of shit that they wrote and produced was actually even good or not from a technical standpoint.

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How do you think Red Army and American GIs thought of each other after WWII?

Also, how do you think they thought of each other during the war? While the leaders of the Allies all knew what was really up, AFAIK the soldiers saw the other armies as comrades against a common foe and calling Stalin “Uncle Joe” was surprisingly common in the US during the war. For a bit of a cultural anecdote, I remember watching an 80s Nuke PSA from Britain where an old British couple who lived through the war had recounted how pleasant they found Stalin and Roosevelt to be. So what do you think the average GI and Red Army soldier think of each other? Wasn’t there at least a bit of mood whiplash to go from allies to “you are literally the symbol of all that is evil trying to destroy all that is good” in about three years or so?

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/sad/ - South Asia & Desi General

General discussion on current events/politics from Pakistan to Bhutan. There are a few of us here, make yourself known! Everyone is welcome and feel free to ask questions. Nobody really talks about the Indian left here and it would be great if anons had the chance to learn a bit more!

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Hi Anons, What do you think of revolutionart violence? And what in particular do you think of the RAF positions that you can never know when 'the time is right' and you only can know through experience. And even if the time is not right it is not only Revolutionary Violence needed to 'win' but to fight an emergenct fascism/anti-leftism and for lack of a better phrase, hold our ground? If you disagree we do not live in the right time do you agree we should be preparing at least infrastructure to project and wield power? What do you think of this text generally, anons?

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anons give help I have to "thank the troops" for school

I am being forced along with my entire grade to write "letters of thanks" to our "defenders of freedom and democracy" tomorrow while exams are going on lmao pls help me decide what I put in the letter anons, I genuinely want to fucking die

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Class consciousness

Why are most workers oblivious to their exploitation? Even if you attempt to explain how and why, they either don't believe you or say shit like "welp nothing can be done about it, that's how it is" or "yeah call me when the revolution happens". What is it to be done?

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How is it that the more prolitarinized areas of the world where exploitation is most intece have a more favorable view of capitalism?

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Unironically, how accurate is this?

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🇧🇷/brg/ Brasil General🇧🇷

We ded but returning from being ded. Ask questions, discuss or shitpost. E aí companheiros, como estão no surgimento do evangelistão? Curtindo a frente ampla pelo governo? Curtindo o friozinho que deu no fim de semana?

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Aus/leftypol/ - He's at it again edition

Making because i think Aus/leftypol/ got slid off the board during the day of the cope. Tony Abbot proposes "floating prison islands" to be constructed on ocean platforms and "prison ships" to be built to "house migrants" in the UK he's basically going to import the horrific and inhumane system that he implemented and used to basically kill several thousand people (Who literally did nothing wrong either under /int/ or aussie law) to continental Europe.

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What should I know about De Gaulle ?

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can someone give me a rundown on why he was based?

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Ho, ho, ho, Ho Chi Minh!

How many people hear fuck with Ho Chi Minh vs other revolutionaries??? I feel like he's super unique compared to Stalin and Mao. Maybe I'm a sucker for his emphasis on morality, but I think he's the only solid leader that lead a communist nation.wa

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The Shining Path

wtf is up with these guys? >made by some guy who was a philosophy professor and the head of some weird experimental university >became active at a time where civilian government was in power and communists were winning congressional and municipal elections as opposed to literally every other Latin American country where revolutionary forces cropped up under dictatorships >was allegedly as brutal and insane as the government led counterinsurgency >uber disciplined, culty, sectarian, killed other communists who didn't adhere to Gonzoloist thought >trafficked cocaine >initiation ritual was capping cops in the head and taking their gun as a trophy >hated Dengoids so much that they hung dead dogs from lamp posts in Lima to prove it >Kind of similar to Khmer Rouge in that they imposed really rigid discipline on villages they took over and gave out harsh punishments on even minor infractions >killed lots of civilians constantly Everything that I have learned about these guys has just been universally bad, much like the Khmer Rouge. How much of their portrayal is western propaganda? Are they a CIA psyop? Can you prove that they were a CIA psyop?

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The French revolution wasn't all that good because it caused this.

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Help fund communism in Ireland!

Help fund communism in Ireland this Christmas! If you can spare any change this Christmas, these guys do some really good work. I know a lot of their members and I'm thinking of joining. They're ML, Irish republican and do a lot of good work especially in Dublin.

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How would the jannitor profession look under socialism?

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russian civil war general

How come there isn't a single thread on the war that led to the first official communist states? What does /leftypol/know or think of this war? Is there something you wish has changed during this period? Like a mistake by the reds or an unnecessary revolt? Who do you think was the best commander? >inb4trotsky with his massive train How did the Bolsheviks resist a counter-revolution by the tsar-loyalists,liberals,and anti-communists funded by every capitalist nation at that time? Post everything related to the russian civil war here,documents,stories,old relics,what important figures thought of the civil war,pictures and weapons if you are russian,movies and more >hard mode no wikipedia articles,i don't trust wikipedia. I really wanted to start this thread last saturday as that is the time it started 7 novembre.

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Is there any truth behind the "raising minimum wage will cause inflation and destroy the universe" meme?

Hear this one a lot. Often accompanied by the "well these jobs are meant for kids anyway." Any evidence for this or is it 100% pork? Any good sources for immediately debunking this?

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Your average right-winger ladies and gentlemen.

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Guides, Manuals, How-Tos, etc

Let's see where this goes. I'll start with a manual on rioting. Cue the accusations of glowing.

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📈/crisis/ General📉

💰️DOW/Market Watch Thread💰️ monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc. 🎩 👀 🐽 👄

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coño Hilo Anterior: >>483387 Se agrega las etiquetas Latino, Latinos, Latam y latinoamérica. Por alguna razón "coño" en el ctrl+f en el catálogo refleja búsquedas de "cono", lo que dificulta su búsqueda.

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Africa General

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Prison abolition

What does leftypol think of prison abolition? Obviously we would need to radically restructure our society and criminal justice system for that to work, but it is an interesting thought experiment.

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Stalin's USSR rejected Mendelian genetics and actively suppressed and murdered over 3000 biologists going against this. So much for "scientific socialism". Do MLs have anything to say in their defense that isn't "it's Western propoganda"?

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Iran general

I need to get redpilled on Iran, bros Last year they've been through lots of protests. Should we leftists support them? Also what is the redpilled position on MEK? Iran general I guess

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How advanced do the productive forces have to be to usher in communism? Seems like they're already pretty advanced in the West, so why no communism revolution here? And why are the Chinese waiting until 2050 to implement communism, in order to develop these forces more.

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Labour vouchers

Ok, so i have a couple of question for people who shill in favour of labour vouchers. 1.- I am a 6'4 and just started doing bodybuilding. I need about 5k calories. My gf needs around 1.5k calories to lose weight. If i work 8 hours, and she works 8 hours, and we go to the good depository to demand 8 hours of labour, am I going to get the same amount of calories as her? How do we measure this? Is my 8 hour labour voucher means I get 5k calories, while her 8 hour labour voucher means she gets 1.5k? How does that work? 2.- Let's say I am the only person who can exchange my voucher, what if I forgot mine and we want to exchange her voucher for goods for both of us? 3.- If vouchers are not bearer bonds, Does that mean that we both have to go to the deposit? Like is she able to demand my goods using my voucher or vice-versa? 4.- How do you stop a black or grey market from arising?

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Is he pretty much going to be Carter 2, without the peanuts?

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Engels on Accelerationism >The question of Free Trade or Protection moves entirely within the bounds of the present system of capitalist production, and has, therefore, no direct interest for us socialists who want to do away with that system. >Indirectly, however, it interests us inasmuch as we must desire as the present system of production to develop and expand as freely and as quickly as possible: because along with it will develop also those economic phenomena which are its necessary consequences, and which must destroy the whole system:misery of the great mass of the people, in consequence of overproduction. This overproduction engendering either periodical gluts and revulsions, accompanied by panic, or else a chronic stagnation of trade; division of society into a small class of large capitalist, and a large one of practically hereditary wage-slaves, proletarians, who, while their numbers increase constantly, are at the same time constantly being superseded by new labor-saving machinery; in short, society brought to a deadlock, out of which there is no escaping but by a complete remodeling of the economic structure which forms it basis. >From this point of view, 40 years ago Marx pronounced, in principle, in favor of Free Trade as the more progressive plan, and therefore the plan which would soonest bring capitalist society to that deadlock. [...]

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Population Density

There is an almost one to one correlation all across the western world of population density to left wing politics. Denser urban areas go left and rural areas go right. this is controlling for other factors like race, education, income, etc. why is this the case? What about living next to other people makes you left wing?

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Religious freedom in islamic country

I know we have a lot of muslims here, but what does /leftypol/ think of freedom of religion? esp. in countries like Saudi Arabia, etc.? Why have these countries remained extremist/fundamentalist for so long, what is the materialist explanation?

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You don't even have to be a marxist to recognize, that nationalism is an outdated and harmful ideology. When you promote nationalism as a virtue, you are promoting backwardness. Never forget: The working men have no country. We cannot take away from them what they have not got.

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Saemaul Undong

What was this movement? People's commune with capitalist characteristics?

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How do we stop this from happening bros

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anti-american german zoomer from a couple of months ago here, i have a small update on my perception of anti-americanism: After reading some Adorno and non marxist books analyzing the general roots of anti-americanism post ww2 in germany i've come to the conclusion that, with adequate analysis, it is fully legitimate; america maintains the dominant culture industry that spreads its propaganda through the whole world. also small update on one of the brainlet americans i met that sparked this within me: he's now a holocaust denier kekekeke

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single mother with children

how can a single mother who feels oppressed by capitalism alleviate the pain and take care of children?

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There are elements of the bourgeois state that are worth keeping

Alright, so I believe we shouldn't be retarded ultras who want to "abolish school" (t. Muke) and shit like that, I think history (and logic) dictates that not everything in our bourgeois democracies is inherently evil or needs to be smashed immediately when socialism is more of an outgrowth of capitalism that has a revolutionary rupture where one class overthrows the other. A lot of the things porky has built up to serve his interests can be utilized by us. Nobody would propose to burn down every Amazon distribution center, as Amazon is the most elaborated distribution system hitherto to exist, very useful for us. So let's have a similar approach to the state. Jurisdiction. I think we shouldn't try to replace the capitalist legal system with "revolutionary people's trials" or something. These can be useful right after a revolution, but they shouldn't be normalized. Constant revolutionary terror/war communism is not a desirable state. Socialism needs to have his own steady and transparent legal system - China realized that after the debacle of the Cultural Revolution; building up a socialist legal system is a core tenet of Deng Xiaoping Thought. Learn from people who are winners. Judges should be accountable, people must be able to appeal to higher courts for revision. There should be a administrative law, where people could file complaints - when the state decides to build a canal through your house, you should be compensated. This is a big task as we have to build up our own legal philosoph. "Seperation of Powers.' Communists in the 20th century have regarded the concept of a separation of powers to be a bourgeois spook designed to create a gridlock system upholding the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. This is true in a liberal democracy, but in a socialist democracy it would be different. To centralize everything - executive, legislative and judicative branch - into the party/Politburo has been an idea that had dire consequences. We can strengthen the party within the branches but they should be formally independent. The chairman shouldn't write footnotes in a school textbook, decide how much a speeding ticket is, and design the new water park all at the same time. Electoral transparency. Okay, I don't mean liberal plurality, go for a one party state if you want. But fudging elections is really cringe and unbelievably delegitimizing. Allow citizen poll observers. Build a state of the people, not of the working class alone. Even in a dictatorship of the proletariat where the working class is always the decisive factor in the last instance, you don't want to unnecessarily exclude other classes and strata and imperil your popular mandate. For example, you want mass organizations or parties that represent the following groups: - farmers (Marxist-Leninist states already did this) - small business owners - intelligentsia - religious organisations Almost all religions include some form of community organization and social values. Purge the church of reactionaries and work together with the progressive elements. Small business owners are asphyxiated by the monopoly bourgeoisie and the imperialists, you can get them on your side too by including them in the political process. This is think is the lesson of the 20th century. Communist Parties in power were overly eager to smash all bourgeois elements and did unnecessarily alienate large sections of the population - for example, look at the KSČ winning the election fair and square in Chechoslovakia after World War II, and then losing the popular mandate within less than a year by introducing overly radical measures for which their voters did not really sign up for (for example, immediate collectivization of all land instead of a land reform).

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I'm generally open minded regarding the Soviet Union and I was wondering if any ML's could give me their perspective on the Novocherkassk massacre.

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Being a secret Ex-Muslim girl and socialist in Pakistan

Communism and state atheism was literally the only true chance for freedom women around the Muslim world had, Neo-liberal Democracies cannot counter Islamism in fact Islamism thrives in these environments, in Pakistan every progressive policy is shut down by Islamists who say the Prophets and Sahaba would never allow such things and we should live by the laws of prophet and Sahhbah(his companions) people need to the understand that the figure of Muhammad was a warlord as well as a prophet, he conquered Mecca and imposed the "laws of Allah" on the populace, these laws induced the killing of dogs cause allegedly they offended angels and kept them from entering peoples houses, all women had to cover up their bodies to a comically ridiculous degree, men were discouraged to pee while standing up cause standing up and peeing condemns them and their souls linger to the earth on to till the day of judgement and other ridiculous shit, but conservative Muslims will view this era as the Ideal society that should be replicated for modern times and we are indoctrinated into believing this Islam is incapable of reforming or evolving, in fact it regresses, for the past 40 years Islam in Pakistan and throughout Asia is becoming increasingly more and more Arabized, while women used to cover with more varied regional clothing women now just used that black trash bag(the niqab) pretty much everywhere, there's no really hope at all for us, America and the west can't save us but China can, my one and only hope that if when China is the undisupated world power, it installs socialists and communist leaders that can save us from Arab worshiping dog filth religion

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Alt Right/Nazi cringe thread

Post the most cringe worthy real life /pol/smokers you can find.

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AK-47 appreciation thread.

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Which was more justified, the 1956 invasion of Hungary or the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia?

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/QTDDTOT/ – Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread

Last thread: >>983378 Why did the Soviet Union annex Moldova but not Romania, eventually at least? Might as well have gone all out and annexed all Romanian-speaking lands.

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How do you deal with the fact there were homeless in the USSR? anchored for low effort baiting and arguing in bad faith

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Last Thread got bumplocked Post your based or cringe MP4, WEBM files here

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How do commies define capitalism?

Capitalism is a voluntary exchange of goods and services based on market demand for goods and services, can also be called commerce. This is the only definition that 99% of people agree upon. How come the communist one is the right one if 99% of people aren't communists?

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otskyist Collaboration with Fascists (Nazis + Japanese)

Was there Trotskyite collaboration with the fascists? I've heard the claim thrown around but is there actual substantial evidence? As an ML I would like to know.

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How do I organize a strike against my boss when every bone feels like dust?

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Former Chud. Need help.

I was a Chud and probably still am. But could someone please explain why the rightoids love wheat fields and that Ted guy? Everyone used to be a farmer but as our technology got better we needed less farmers. Isn't this a good thing? Why would you want to go back to being a farmer? And why wheat fields? There's other types of farming. As for Ted, I just don't get it. Why would you want to throw away all technology. Every technology brings new problems but that doesn't mean you just throw it all away. How should I attack these arguments of theirs?

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/leftybritpol/ - GIGACHAD EDITION

Just wanna head back to the pub, bruv

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Mutual aid

I haven't really heard anyone talk about mutual aid on this board, so I decided to make my own thread on it. In case you're not familiar, mutual aid is a system in which people work cooperatively to meet the needs of everyone in the community. Think of it sort of like 2-way charity, in which everyone is both a giver and a receiver. If I understand correctly, anarcho-communist economies are supposed to be structured around mutual aid. Additionally, mutual aid networks have popped up all over the world since the coronavirus pandemic, and it was in articles about such networks that I first heard about the concept. I don't really know that much about mutual aid, but I'm curious as to what leftypol thinks about it.

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Post your 8values and/or LeftValues results

Both are nice political quizzes with their own strengths and weaknesses. I got libertarian socialism on 8values and Centrist Marxism on LeftValues. My results are kinda accurate because I prefer decentralized, anti-authoritarian socialism, but am not sure about the reform-or-revolution question.

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🐖🇪🇺🐷/EUROpol/ - Europe Politics general💶

Can we get get a europe general? I'm kinda curious what's going on in the countries of my fellow europeans, but I feel like having a general for each seperate country, with each speaking their own language segregates us further fellow euro brothers and sisters. So dump news, banter, events, feels, and so on and so on Let's create a beter general than /USApol/

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The Five Eyes Alliance are the Axis Powers of the 21st Century

It should be clear now, the Anglo alliance led by America is comparable in its barbarity, depravity, and degeneracy to the alliance of the Third Reich, Italy, and the Japanese Empire. If we glance from the brutal war crimes in their destruction of much of Arabic society to the insane propaganda making their citizens rabid for war, the hysteria and calls for military provocations from Anglo media amongst condemnations for proven war crimes; the pure decadence and subhumanity of the Five Eyes Axis becomes blinding. These countries are absolutely the most depraved, corrupting, and destructive on the face of the planet; if their citizens cannot find the strength to end such madness then surely nuclear armaments must. It is truly a shame that climate change will not only destroy the Anglo countries, an even greater shame that two such countries will be well off. Is there any chance we witness the fall of such bloodthirsty barbarians in our lifetime?

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Avant Garde

Was the Avant Garde a gateway to Marxism or Anarchism? The ties between these and Surrealist, Dadaist, even Furists ecc. arist are pretty obvious (except Dali). What's the tie here? And avant garde is really dead?

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/BEARDtube/Growing thread 2.0

Seeing that the first thread hit bumplock and that a few comrades have taken interest in the channel mentioned here i'm relaunching the /BEARDtube/ thread. Post and discuss here everything about Marxist youtuber (of all tendencies). OC is HUGELY appreciated, and new anon channels will be shout out here and on /IG/. Let's build a good community! The BEARDtube list: -/Leftypol/ videos -Animarchy -Anticonquista -Austrian_Maoist1 -azureScapegoat -BayArea415 -Benji -BigBreadBrainz -CommunistPartyUsa -Comrade Pierre Tru-Dank -Comrade Reads -Comrade Rhys -DANOV -Dankey Kang -DemocraticSocialist01 -Dialectical Vegan Egoist -Dust James -Ewoks Unhinged -FRSOorg -Fellow Traveler -GentleGinjeet -Hakim -halim alrah -IanWright -InDefenseOfToucans -Infrared -Irish Socialist Republicans -Jason Unruhe -Leaflets -Leftism Today -LiberationNews -Luna Oi -Micheal Roberts economist -Neo Jacobin -Paul Cockshott -Paul Morrin -Polinkazh -Politsturm International -Premier Liles -ProSocialism -Prolekult -ProletarianU -RayRamses -RedScareTv -Redfish -Richard Medhurst -Soapbox -Socialism: 101 -Socialism For All -Socialist Voice -Space Babies -Spooky Scary Socialist -Swoletariat -Taimur Rahman -Tankie Talk -The Grayzone -The Swoletariat -The Red Phoenix -The Red Serpent -TheFinnishBolshevik -TheMarxistProject -ToddMcGowan -Tovarishch Endymion -UnderstandingPower -Viki1999 -Weeb Revolution -YazMinsky

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I hate being the bad guy

The whole world despises my country and blames us for all the world's problems. As nice as it would be to defend my country and prove them wrong, I must unfortunately admit that they're right. I just hope that one day my country gets rid of its retarded foreign policy and figures out how to get along better with other countries. I'm sick of always being seen as the bad guy. Does anyone else feel the same?

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Open dialogue on the kingdom of Bhutan?

So I consider myself pretty left-wing, right? My only hardcore beliefs really stem in environmentalism, democracy and populism. Notice "Democracy.". While I'm a solid leftest, many of my values co-exist with my religious values; specifically Buddhism. So in my search of learning about my faith and its culture; I stumbled along the country of Bhutan. Its currently a constitutional monarchy, with a rich old culture that is present in its agriculture, architecture, clothes, etc. Even lengthy prison sentences for killing animals. Now, when you combine the values of Buddhism: No killing, intoxicants, lying, etc and the countries pursuit in environmental friendly policy that would make Howie Hawkins cum in his pants; how "oppressive" is this monarchy. Am I bias? Sure, the kingdom has controversy with treatment of Nepalese minorities not assimilating to culture laws; but change for the better has been made in the years since the enforce of these laws. Does me simping hard for this theocracy "bourgeoisie" when the monarchy has been almost completely harmless and the people unanimously show their love for the king. Tl;dr Are Buddhist theocratic constitutional monarchies bad???

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Right wing grifters

From the boomers to the zoomers, why is the right, of all varieties, susceptible to so many grifters? One thing that unites the right from the youngest to the oldest is that they're willing to shill out money, for boomers its people like Hannity, Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, Fox News and ofc. Trump himself, the ultimate conman snakeoil salesman, putting a gilded cover over obvious grifts like "Trump University". For the zoomers its a million alt right/alt lite youtube grifters like Milo (pre-cancel), Fuentes, Lauren Southern, right-wing ethots, etc. Not to mention a million other people like Molymeme, Alex Jones, Peterson, Crowder, the list goes on and on. obviously we have our own breadtube grifters on the left, but they are way less prominent Even Bannon, who many thought was some ideologue, actually turned out to be a right wing grifter all along which is why he was arrested for defrauding his own fans. is everyone on the right just a gullible fucking rube???

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Is america too far gone?

I am an american scientific researcher but everyday I feel like I need to quit and kill myself because of how America has gotten. I write what seems like hundreds of pages every year on shit the average person will just dismiss and not care about and do the exact same thing and I am sort of reaching my limit. >Religion and corruption The Church has now become corrupt in a failed attempt to adapt to the information age, now being a bourgeois tool for "proofs as to the defeat of socialism". Last time I went to church we prayed for the military and legislators. Every discussion I have with these people they say read this revelation text and when I look it is just misunderstood and when I try to explain it to them they say I haven't read revelations correctly. I feel as though now the church is the affiliation of capitalims, and they no longer pray to God, but they pray to the dollar. I know you are all going to say in the comments "Lenin predicted this" or another author but i don't care this is what is happening now. They then say that revelations predicted globalist elites wanting to make the great reset or that the beast is covid masks and the vaccine is the mark of the beast and i have no idea what the fuck they're talking about but I see these people all the time. They do the same for jews or whatever and it just goes downhill from there, and the bible is now their vain authority for the failures of capitalism to preserve their shitty beliefs TL;DR The church has failed to adapt to the information age and now is making people schizophrenic >Constant division of working class again and again Every fucking time any fucking resemblance of any opposition to capitalism or even normal oppression occurs, it's antagonized and thrown into the pile of satanists who want to destroy america. it's really fucking annoying because they don't fucking understand what a disorganized decentralized movement is, or they can't even accept that even people themselves just are not liking capitalism/oppression and they always have to think some government or one dude is behind it. this is not in reference to antifa, i don't support them for different reasons then these people. Why are they like this, where they comprehend a movement or group of people not fucking astroturfed by an enemy or something. And even when the american people agree on an issue it's always fucking divided by direction. "Oh, you support X, that must mean youre a [left/right] winger" and this is just another divider and I can't do this shit. And rightoids hold onto the smallest things to divide everything. Thety think communism is nazi venezualaland and it just pisses me off. TL;DR Everything is directions and nothing ever gets done >QAnon and conspiracies I'm a scientific researcher and this is the one that pisses me off the most. Groupthink or whatever. You can have a healthy suspicion of government and such but the government could announce "we are mandating you to breathe" and they'll think it's some large conspiracy or a method of control. It's because they realize how little fucking freedom they have under the free market and use going against the government at every turn as just a cope. I don't like the government, but this is just a fucking cope. And then what they do is that if you don't buy into their shitty theories they pulled out of their ass they say you're a fucking idiot and are going against God, and so they are goeded to believing it under threat of hell for some reason, add that to the church corruption thing. It's at this point they say they are fact over feelings but theres literally nothing that is redeemable about this. I look into their stuff and I can prove it wrong in 10 minutes, but that's what it takes, 10 minutes. In those 10 minutes they've made 100 more bullshit claims that people believe and it feels like why am I even bothering with trying to disprove anything they say, like the internal contradictions of capitalism, when they will just churn out another bullshit claim TL;DR People believe this shit and now they use that as fascist justifcation >Rejection of science and research in exchange for hedonism The labs get jack shit. Jack fucking shit. Our schools get jack shit, jack fucking shit. Why? because these motherfuckers are afraid of what science plans to do, but when an unpeer reviewed scientific paper even suggests that right wing may be correct in any way they parade it around 4chan and place it on their boards and hate websites. (Yes, I've seen the hate website and the false police brutality page. I can try and go through it, but it's literally 300 pages of bullshit, non-sequitors, or something 10 other papers disproved). I don't fucking get it. And when scientific researchers say we should take action on something it's always the amerilards moaning how they are funded by companies and government and they shouldn't be trusted. I can't do this shit. TL;DR amerilards dont reas unless it agrees with them >Rejection of education, arts, in exchange for military and American supremacy For the reasons aforementioned, we have jack shit because americans like to believe in american exceptionalism and it pisses me off. It gets nothing done and the government takes my money to drone strike some yemeni kid. We have jack shit. Our teachers have jack shit, our nurses have jack shit, shit is bad, we have jack shit. We would have good healthcare if the amerilards believed even for a second that this virus was real. thousands of hospitals are full to the fucking brim and these people can't see this shit because all they see is the 99% mortality rate and believe everything is fine. I can't do this shit. American exceptionalism has blocked all discussion too. I say that's not how the economy works, they say america is the only world superpower, and that our military and police needs to be funded more to ensure that shit. TL;DR we got jack shit and they think thats good >Rampant racism and discrimination Anti-semitism, racism, homophobia, just making everyones day shittier. I'm no white twitter liberal girl, but come fucking on. I can't go one day without having to hear about discrimination on a mass scale and it's annoying me. And when we say a solution, it just fucking get rejected as uneeded, too violent, too scary, too weak, too little, and this shit does not work. angloids can't fucking get voting/writing to your congressman about this shit is just not working TL;DR i cant do this shit no more >Consumerism and false connections This one is the worst. Amerilards think late stage capitalism or whatever is just an individual problem. "Yeah this pattern and the system is not indicitave of any problem of the system, [politician/famous person] will fix it, but [politician/famous person] is trying to ruin it". Everything is so engrained into our capitalistic culture americans cant fucking guess a world outside of it. I know thats a mark fisher thing i dont care. they then attribute the problems to the left or whatever, or whatever boogey man joe rogen says or something. Consumerism is now rampant in the united states to a point where everything is falling apart toning it back a little that the americans are chanting that they need it. Our economy relies too heavily on this consumerism, and when the effects of consumerism come into play, nothing ever gets done, and they blame it on an elite rather than an indication of the system. TL;DR capitalist realism by mark fisher This shit is just wearing me down. I research and I try to do politics on the side, but I feel like this is all for nothing. Is america lost? What can I do? It feels like there is no escape. i just want to live in an equal community and not have to worry about this late stage capitalism or heavy gov shit

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Was the Hungarian Uprising a communist or an anticommunist one? And Why did it happen?

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Αν όλοι είναι αντιφα μήπως κανένας δεν είναι αντιφά ? εντισιον

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Esoteric Hitlerism Thread: The Right Wing is a bunch of CIA, Pedophile, Satanists

This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right. To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism. The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement. This web of operations and intelligence connections, What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony. Evidence: >leader of neo nazi group "the base" a fed >various themes involving the alt right, their connections to the intelligence services, and the esoteric hitlerist connections in both, alongside pedophile connections > a video describing the Order of the Nine Angles[Embed] >videos of 09A ritual stuff[Embed][Embed][Embed] >AWD Pedo Cop with probable links to esoteric groups >National Socialist Underground >Regarding the nine murders of migrants with the same weapon, the investigations focused almost exclusively on the victims and their alleged and actually non-existent ties to organized crime, the “Turkish mafia”, drug dealing, the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and so on. In the murder cases where police investigated the possibility that these acts might have been committed for right-wing motives, they did so in a very superficial manner and leads in this direction were hardly ever followed up. >The same pattern can be seen in the investigations of the bomb attacks. In all three cases, which the police did not regard as connected, the police looked for suspects close to the victims or in connection with organized crime, and neo-Nazi suspects were never seriously considered. In the case of the bomb attack in Keupstraße in Cologne, the police denied the terrorist character of the attack and yet again the bombing was attributed to organized crime. This denial contradicted internal analysis of the secret service and the police considering a racist motive. >Most of the 15 robberies were believed to be connected as the offenders were always two young men fleeing the crime scene on bikes. But no connection was ever made between the robberies and the murders and/or bombings, despite the fact that many witnesses had seen two young men with bikes close to the scene of the respective crimes. >Marx Dutroux connection >One of the leaders of the Belgian pedophile ring was Benoit de Bonvoisin [13] [48], who was associated with several secret services. [13²] According to various sources, he held a high position at Gladio, these statements are corroborated by the fact that during a house search, which he carried out in 1990, a draft for a strategy of tension was found. This strategy paper included (supposedly random) attacks on supermarkets. >09A causes a split in atomwaffen >Grant Bistow[Embed] >Nazis being covered up for by german intelligence again >The Process Church of Final Judgement, the apocalyptic gnostic satanic cult that was big in the 60s and 70s which decisively influenced Charles Manson and the Son of Sam, and is purported to be involved in many other ritualistic/serial killings. They eventually turned into the Animal Friends' Society, which is still involved in shady dealings on their compound. They pioneered using Nazi aesthetics and using race war rhetoric and are arguably the direct ancestors' of today's ONA et al edgelord wannabe terrorists. Genesis P-Orridge, the bands Skinny Puppy and Angel Witch and Timothy Wyllie are known associates. V*ce shitsters also attended some of their rituals and shilled for the hard a few years back. >(question from poster) are you aware of any intelligence agency connections? >OP:No direct evidence, but by virtue of their MO, their connections to British aristocracy (both "DeGrimston" and his mistress were blue bloods), L. Ron Hubbard and early Scientology (of which the founders had been members/initiates), as well as the entire satanic/thelemite counter culture in the US (Anger, Parsons, LaVey, Manson et al.), in my opinion they have glow written all over them (likely a joint effort by the MI6 + CIA + OSS/NSA).I strongly suggest you check out the book I linked, "The Ultimate Evil" by Maury Terry, a fine piece of investigative journalism that lays crucial details about their organizational culture. > (question from poster) Is the documentary in question the one on netflix? The one that largely focusses on a guy with something up with his eye trying to get a statue of Satan onto public property or something? > (OP) The documentary is called "Hail Satan?"; since the filmmaker dropped all pretense of objectivity and became a card carrying member and high profile propagandist for this cult, I strongly suggest you stream or t*rrent it so as to deny them any revenue: It's also an instructive watch on the sort of disoriented, philosophically and theologically illiterate lumpenproletariat these cults prey on, as well as unhinged fascist "intellectuals" they push to the forefront.

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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism

Thread dedicato al paese con il popolo più analfabeta e la borghesia più ignorante d'Europa, dove ci sono più partiti comunisti che comunisti stessi. In un modo o nell'altro, cerchiamo di riprenderci il paese e il futuro che Confindustria ci ha rubato insieme ai suoi servi. Foreign comrades are welcome. Previous thread: >>19862

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Which global conflicts and new wars do you expect to break out with a Biden administration? Looking at his cabinet and advisory picks, it's pretty close to Bush era foreign policy (see Atony Blinken). It's safe to say that the section of the American monopoly bourgeoisie Biden represents is more transatlantic, and also very hawkish towards Russia (the great danger of Europe and Russia going together has been a central tenet in US foreign policy considerations since WWI). Biden might be softer on Latin America, giving Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia little but not much breathing space, but I fear there is going to be another Syria in the MENA region or Central Asia. Plus, great power competition will continue with incredible dangerous alignments in the Indo-Pacific. I don't see escalation with China turning into a hot conflict, but there might very well be another attempted color revolution near Russia bringing us closer to a war with Russia.

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Let's have a thread on idealism, what it is and what it isn't. From the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: >This entry discusses philosophical idealism as a movement chiefly in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, although anticipated by certain aspects of seventeenth century philosophy. It examines the relationship between epistemological idealism (the view that the contents of human knowledge are ineluctably determined by the structure of human thought) and ontological idealism (the view that epistemological idealism delivers truth because reality itself is a form of thought and human thought participates in it). I think it's safe to say most anons on here are materialists in some form, and that most of us reject ontological idealism. Jannies: the point of this thread is to heighten the level of discourse on here, because some anons just throw around the word idealism to sound smart. Yes I know this is >implying we can have decent threads on here, call me a utopian.

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Redpill me on the Holy Land of Bunkers. The home of /leftypol/. >Why did it failed? >Why did it split with Dengoids? >What did Hoxha do wrong? >What did Hoxha do good? >Does /leftypol/ support Kosovo and Greater Albanian Unification? >Will we see a Hoxha 2? >Everything a newfag needs to know about the Holy Land

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Why are they hated?

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What is the marxian explaination of transgender and non-binary folx?

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Why Are Slavs Neo-Nazis?

Can someone explain me why fucking that exist.That doesn't make any sense at all....In many eastern-euro countries;there is many neo-nazis and there is like birthplace of alt-right.Is there an marxist explaination of this? How can fucking slav support the people who wanted to genocide them?,it's like an Kurd becoming Turanist

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Globalism vs Neo-liberalism

Are they the same thing, minus the anti semitism? or not, what's the difference?

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🇩🇪/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General🇩🇪

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.

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How does communism solve pic related?

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Understand the threat of fascism

A lot of people here completely fail to understand exactly why fascism has historically been turned to in order to save capitalism. The most major aspect which defines fascism and creates its success is that it is a "rebranding of social democratic capitalism" - it is nationalistic, it borrows socialist policy and talking points (while killing socialists), it imposes social democratic policy (mixing privatization and nationalization to create an economy capable of sustaining warfare and campaigns against its enemies). Why is this powerful? Because nationalism is an easy instinct to take advantage of, and because social democracy is more successful than capitalism at actually creating an economy on the ground level which is capable of eradicating the threat of socialism. National "socialism", for instance, was always nationalist social democracy - more akin to denmark's socdem party than to the neo-nazi beliefs of americans.

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CIA and social movements

When the CIA and similar organizations get involved in social movements, we should be worried, as it enables the social movement to become a means through which the United States and other Western countries increase their influence over other nations. However, does CIA involvement automatically delegitimize a movement? Well let's consider the following. Suppose there is a country with a government that is at odds with the U.S. government. And let's suppose that that government has done something that pisses of its people. The people take to the streets and demand certain changes from their government, or even its outright overthrow. These people obviously have a beef with their government, but you know who else does? The U.S. government. So of course, you have the whole "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" dynamic, and it becomes possible for the U.S. government to snake its way into the movement and try to coopt it for its own purposes. While this cooption is definitely not desirable, does it mean the whole movement is now rotten? Or are their still elements of it that are worth supporting? I suspect that a number social movements have started out as organic, grassroots movement, but have been distorted by foreign involvement. Examples include the the Venezuelan protests, 2019-2020 Hong Kong protests, and the 2020 Belarusian protests. So what do you think?

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Hello everyone, I'm new here. Perhaps I’m bothering you, but I would like to find people who will help me translate videos of Russian communist bloggers who expose anti-Soviet myths. If someone can help, I will be greatly grateful PS: sorry for the mistakes, I use google translate

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News 12/2/20

Sinn Féin member Brian Stanley apologises over 'insensitive' tweet Mr Stanley wrote: "The 2 IRA operation that taught the elite of d British army and the establishment the cost of occupying Ireland. Pity for everyone they were such slow learners." French former interior minister accused of concealing evidence in death of 80yo killed by riot police tear gas grenade in her home The daughter of an 80-year-old woman killed when a tear gas grenade was fired into her apartment by French riot police two years ago has filed a legal complaint against former Interior Minister Christophe Castaner over the death. Iran’s president opposes bill that would boost enrichment Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani on Wednesday expressed his opposition to a bill approved by parliament the previous day to suspend U.N. inspections and boost uranium enrichment, saying it would be “harmful” to diplomatic efforts aimed at restoring the 2015 nuclear deal and easing U.S. sanctions. Nepal PM Oli defers to party majority A majority of members prevailed on Tuesday in the Secretariat meeting of the ruling Nepal Communist Party (NCP), as Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli was forced to agree to discuss the proposal of party Co-chair Pushpa Kamal Dahal, although the PM wanted Dahal to withdraw his proposal. Strikes by Kia and GM workers continue in South Korea The stoppages are part of far broader discontent, anger and unrest among auto workers internationally over job losses, deteriorating conditions and the health threats posed by the COVID-19 pandemic. Heavily-funded anti-Red task force plans to seek poll disqualification of leftist party-list groups The government’s anti-communist task force, which is getting up to P16 billion in funding, could seek the disqualification by the Commission on Elections (Comelec) of the left-wing Makabayan bloc of lawmakers in the House of Representatives in future elections. Thai leader faces court ruling that could cost him his job Thailand’s highest court is set to rule Wednesday on whether Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha has breached ethics clauses in the country’s constitution and should be ousted from his position. Public sector workers attacked by police in Slemani Hundreds of teachers, health workers and civil servants gathered in the northern Iraqi city’s Bakhi Gshti Park to vent their anger at government corruption. Many of them have not been paid since March. Covid-19: Hamas leader in Gaza tests positive The leader of Hamas in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar, tested positive for Covid-19 on Tuesday as the besieged coastal enclave is witnessing a worrying surge in the pandemic. Jamaica50: Home Office deports suspected trafficking victims THE Home Office has deported suspected victims of trafficking and at least one person who arrived in Britain at the age of 13 on a charter flight to Jamaica, campaigners have claimed.

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What (non-leftist) news sites do you read?

What politics and news sites do you browse? Share some interesting sites! Currently I really enjoy reading these: >Foreign Policy >Fair Observer >The Economist

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le new meme

Instead of calling the USA the United States of America, let's call it "The Settler Entity."

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Why haven’t you taken the Eternal Recurrence-pill, anon?

> Eternal return (also known as eternal recurrence) is a concept that the universe and all existence and energy has been recurring, and will continue to recur, in a self-similar form an infinite number of times across infinite time or space. The concept is found in Indian philosophy and in ancient Egypt as well as Judaic wisdom literature (Ecclesiastes) and was subsequently taken up by the Pythagoreans and Stoics. With the decline of antiquity and the spread of Christianity, the concept largely fell into disuse in the Western world, with the exception of 19th century philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, who connected the thought to many of his other concepts, including amor fati. Eternal return relates in conjunction to the philosophy of predeterminism in that people are predestined to continue repeating the same events over and over again. > The concept of "eternal recurrence"––"the idea that all events in the world repeat themselves in the same sequence through an eternal series of cycles"––is central to the mature writings of Friedrich Nietzsche.[4] As Heidegger points out in his lectures on Nietzsche, Nietzsche's first mention of eternal recurrence, in aphorism 341 ("The Greatest Weight") of The Gay Science (cited below), presents this concept as a hypothetical question rather than postulating it as a fact. According to Heidegger, it is the burden imposed by the question of eternal recurrence—whether or not such a thing could possibly be true—that is so significant in modern thought: "The way Nietzsche here patterns the first communication of the thought of the 'greatest burden' [of eternal recurrence] makes it clear that this 'thought of thoughts' is at the same time 'the most burdensome thought.' "[5] Robert Wicks suggests that the concept of eternal recurrence, as portrayed in "The Greatest Weight," "serves to draw attention away from all worlds other than the one in which we presently live, since eternal recurrence precludes the possibility of any final escape from the present world.[6] Wick's analysis implies that eternal recurrence does not refer to the endless repetition of specific events, but rather the inescapable general circumstances that constitute existence in the physical world. > The philosopher and writer Albert Camus explores the notion of "eternal return" in his essay on "The Myth of Sisyphus", in which the repetitive nature of existence comes to represent life's absurdity, something the hero seeks to withstand through manifesting what Paul Tillich called "The Courage to Be". Though the task of rolling the stone repeatedly up the hill without end is inherently meaningless, the challenge faced by Sisyphus is to refrain from despair. Hence Camus famously concludes that, "one must imagine Sisyphus happy." Sounds like Hegelian Dialectics but without all the bullshit > .... it really seems as though old Hegel, in the guise of the World Spirit, were directing history from the grave and, with the greatest conscientiousness, causing everything to be re-enacted twice over, once as grand tragedy and the second time as rotten farce, Caussidière for Danton, L. Blanc for Robespierre, Barthélemy for Saint-Just, Flocon for Carnot, and the moon-calf together with the first available dozen debt-encumbered lieutenants for the little corporal and his band of marshals. Thus the 18th Brumaire would already be upon us.[8] t. Karl Marx

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Why do we hear so little about this type of WMD? A lot of the time we put our focus on nukes, but why are b*oweapons so completely ignored? Additionally, are there any sources like books to inform yourself about this subject matter?

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Encouraging more ecologist policy in left wing movements.

Now more than ever I feel like more and more leftists need to specifically target environmentalism; especially in America. This election was the first time I got to vote and I voted Howie. Did alot of research on Greens, the platform he was running on, etc. But I think Howie doesn't do enough. We outta strive towards abolishing cars except for those with physicals disabilities, we should massively invest in public transport that is not only safe for the environment but isn't fucking GROSS. Education and appreciation for farm work should be more of a thing, too. Every American should know how to plant, nurture and store a vegetable of their choosing and have the means to do so. It pisses me off so much when I see all this vacant farmland I live by that could be used for MASSIVE plantations for more fruits and vegetables. Fuck, why not strive for a better biodiversity? I bet there is a shit ton of food you've never tried that you' love that would also be healthy for you??? And why the fuck hasn't America prioritized solar energy? That honestly seems to me like one of the perfect means of energy production. Not the sole answer, but its still damn good. I'm not seeing enough tree huggers in my countries socialist movements an damnit that should change; what do you think?

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there was a thread on here about em where'd it go ??? any way podcasts resurection edtion

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Soviet Collective Farming

Anyone have any good reading on the collective farm system in the USSR, the differences between state farms and collective farms and the history of Soviet farming? I'm reading the History of the CPSU(B) Short Course right now and Stalin talks a lot about how collectivisation had to be voluntary and carried out via persuasion and staunchly supporting the poor peasants and that party members were actually reprimanded for being too zealous in forcing collectivisation at times? Was this the case?

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"Reverse Racism does not exist"

Is this phrase commonly used by liberals correct? How do we modify it so that it has class consciousness? Pic not rel

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Diversity Quota Propaganda

As society has moved forward from the 20th century, the proliferation of postmodern skepticism has made a lot of old propaganda techniques much harder to pull off, and so propaganda often has to be a good deal more subtle and sub-textual to be taken seriously. But, interestingly, this seems to disappear entirely if and when the creators start promoting the supposed diversity in their casting, setting etc. Rather flagrant, chauvinistic propaganda can be fed to liberals directly, and they munch it all down, eagerly, if they've been convinced it's a "progressive" work because of diverse casting. Captain Marvel, which gender flipped the eponymous super hero and couldn't shut up about it, was just straight up an ad for the United States Air Force and didn't even try to hide it. Okay, now consider the following plot for a movie: >A man is chosen by God to destroy Satan, so God whisks him away as a child to a special hidden island where he is trained by none other than the Spartans themselves in the ways of becoming a warrior, but his training is suddenly interrupted by landing soldiers from the outside. Turns out, these are soldiers that accidentally found themselves in the island due to a conflict in WWI, and after the Spartans kill the soldiers except for the American guy who they can tell is good, the American explains the situation of the war to our hero. Realizing this must be Satan's doing, our hero follows the American out and into the broader world, which he is originally repulsed by. The weakness, the decadence... and how do they even fight in these civvy clothes? But, as they get into battle, the normal humans prove their worth as our hero's American buddy sacrifices himself in the fighting to stop the damned krauts. When the hero finally breaks through and confronts the German general, it turns out he's not Satan at all, but a proud soldier who loves his country. So who was Satan? None other than the traitorous, peacenik politician who was trying to put a stop to the war. Our hero kills him and saves the world from his vile machinations. Pretty ridiculous premise, right? Maybe the occasional chud and Kyle would like it, but your average lib would roll their eyes so far back into their heads that they would be looking at their own frontal lobes. BUT WAIT <A man woman is chosen by God Zeus to destroy Satan Aries, so God Zeus whisks him her away as a child to a special hidden island where he she is trained by none other than the Spartans Amazons themselves in the ways of becoming a warrior, but his training is suddenly interrupted by landing soldiers from the outside. Turns out, these are soldiers that accidentally found themselves in the island due to a conflict in WWI, and after the Spartans Amazons kill the soldiers except for the American guy who they can tell is good, the American explains the situation of the war to our heroheroine. Realizing this must be Satan's Ares' doing, our hero heroine follows the American out and into the broader world, which he she is originally repulsed by. The weakness, the decadence... and how do they even fight in these civvy clothes? But, as they get into battle, the normal humans prove their worth as our hero's heroine's American buddy sacrifices himself in the fighting to stop the damned krauts. When the hero heroine finally breaks through and confronts the German general, it turns out he's not Satan Ares at all, but a proud soldier who loves his country. So who was Satan Ares? None other than the traitorous, peacenik politician who was trying to put a stop to the war. Our hero heroine kills him and saves the world from his vile machinations. And you basically have the plot to the latest Wonder Woman movie. WOW PROGRESSIVE MOVIE OF THE YEAR IS SO IMPORTANT FOR EVERY WOMAN AND YOUNG GIRL TO SEE THIS Okay, another >Hidden away on the lost isle of Atlantis, a utopian society has been cultivated. A prince of Atlantis ascends to to the throne, but his reign is short lived. The son of another Atlantean prince who had been exiled has returned home, and challenges him for the throne in ritual combat. The challenger wins and makes his ultimatum: for too long Atlantis has hidden itself away from the world, strive and oppression abound on the outside, and the people suffer under the boots of cruel tyrants. He will send the wonderous technology of Atlantis to the oppressed of the world, so they might overthrow their oppressors and win their freedom. The Atlantean lords are horrified by this, but are largely powerless to do anything against their rightful king. That's when the deposed prince teams up with the CIA to plot a coup against the new king. The coup plotters manage to unite most of the Atlantean nobles against the new king and depose him, putting the former king back into power. But, the king has learned a valuable lesson to not ignore the world, so he sets up some charities in disadvantaged neighborhoods. Okay, pretty heinous, right? You might already know where this is going, but <Hidden away on the lost isle of Atlantis in the African kingdom of Wakanda, a utopian society has been cultivated. A prince of Atlantis Wakanda ascends to to the throne, but his reign is short lived. The son of another Atlantean Wakandan prince who had been exiled has returned home, and challenges him for the throne in ritual combat. The challenger wins and makes his ultimatum: for too long Atlantis has hidden itself away from the world, strive and oppression abound on the outside, and the people suffer under the boots of cruel tyrants. He will send the wonderous technology of Atlantis Wakanda to the oppressed of the world, so they might overthrow their oppressors and win their freedom. The Atlantean Wakandan lords are horrified by this, but are largely powerless to do anything against their rightful king. That's when the deposed prince teams up with the CIA to plot a coup against the new king. The coup plotters manage to unite most of the Atlantean Wakandan nobles against the new king and depose him, putting the former king back into power. But, the king has learned a valuable lesson to not ignore the world, so he sets up some charities in disadvantaged neighborhoods. And, you know, since it's an African kingdom, most of the cast is black. WOW THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING WAKANDA FOREVERRRRRR The examples go on. The original Avatar: The Last Airbender wasn't exactly lacking for diversity, but I distinctly remember the advertising for its sequel series, The Legend of Korra, being way, WAY more up it's own ass about making its main protagonist female and dark skinned. And, naturally, the first group of baddies Korra goes up against are "The Equalists" and are basically what you think. I think it's going to become more common in the future, and why we must pursue an relentless critique of any MORE👏WOMEN👏OF👏COLOR👏PRISON👏GUARDS👏 lib shit, as this at least holds the potential of being THE fascist propaganda of the future if the Republicans keep fucking up.

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new militant music

Enough LARPing about ancient music and folklore. What are the newests musics made by leftist groups, or with leftist intents ? music from the 2000's accepted, and remixes too here's from France :

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History of /leftypol/ 2.0

Because the retarted mods locked >>1162854 Mod edit: We didn't lock anything, we archived it. Retard.

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So do Marxists not believe in human nature?

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What reforms would be made to the criminal justice system under communism?

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Biden’s victory

I know that Biden’s victory means returning to the same neoliberal status quo, but if you take a deeper look into what trump’s loss and it’s effect on the right has done, it has smashed the conservative right into pieces. Allow me to explain the people that voted for trump actually think that there was voter fraud, meaning like 82% of trump supporters believe this election is delegitimate, Meanwhile, the GOP and establishment republicans are jumping off the sinking ship that is trump with lifeboats. This is leading to many paleo conservative and far right movements like the America First movement of the groypers or the patriot front movement to grow resentment towards establishment conservatives, who for king have done nothing but continue to lose. The only thing they really are conserving is the capitalist status quo, allowing social progression to take place across the country. This is eventually going to blow into a full blown conflict between the far right and establishment conservatives. While that happens, the nazis and the wignats are also growing tired of the America First movement and the far right as well, and they are beginning to grow resentment towards both the republicans and the far right paleoconservative movement, resulting in even more conflict within the American Right. Meanwhile, while biden is still a corporatist piece of shit, him moving the overton window left will push the american people into tasting socialist policies like M4A, and police reform, climate regulations, and education that won’t make kids bankrupt. When trump got elected, we saw a spark of far right rallies and movements coming out of the shadows, remember charlottesville? Although biden is not nearly the Left version of trump, it does whitepill me on the future of american policies. America will get a taste of a left leaning overton window, which will allow other socialist groups to begin to unravel slowly and organize and grow their numbers, while the American right fights and destroys itself. Sorry if this was a long read, just wanted to share my thoughts. What’s your /leftpol/ thinking about this?

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>Next to nothing known about the author >Says that there's no white proletariat so organizing is pointless >Extremely popular in academic(controlled opposition) "Marxist" circles How does anyone not see that this book is cointelpro?

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Why does the theory of imperialism always have to be reified across entire nation-states? Why can't the left denounce imperialism across sub-national regions, like for example the imperialism of major finance cities like London or New York soaking up capital and commodities, at the expense of proletarian manufacturing areas and the rural hinterlands?

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News 12/1/20

Iran says Israel used remote-controlled machine gun to kill top nuclear scientist Iranian President Hassan Rouhani blamed Israel for the killing on Saturday and vowed retribution "in due time." Air strike kills IRGC commander at Iraq-Syria border, Iraqi officials say An air strike killed a commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard at the Iraq-Syria border sometime over the weekend, Iraqi security and local militia officials said on Monday.Officials could not confirm the identity of the commander, who they said was killed alongside three other men travelling in a vehicle with him. Israel headed for early elections as Gantz-Netanyahu coalition falls apart Defense Minister Benny Gantz announced tonight that his Blue and White party would vote in favor of dissolving parliament on Wednesday because Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — Gantz's political rival turned coalition partner — was refusing to pass a budget and reneging on their power-sharing deal. Twitter suspends Thai royalist account linked to influence campaign Twitter has suspended a Thai pro-royalist account linked to the palace that a Reuters analysis found was connected to thousands of others created in recent weeks spreading posts in favour of King Maha Vajiralongkorn and the monarchy. Azerbaijan fully reclaims lands around Nagorno-Karabakh Azerbaijan on Tuesday completed reclaiming territory held by Armenian forces for more than a quarter-century after a peace deal ended six weeks of fierce fighting over Nagorno-Karabakh. An anti-gay Hungarian politician has resigned after being caught by the police fleeing a 25-man orgy through a window An ally of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban resigned from the European Parliament after attending what was described as a 25-man orgy in Brussels.Jozsef Szajer quit as an MEP on Sunday and later said he was present at a "private party." German police seize crossbows and machetes in raids on banned neonazi group’s members HUNDREDS of police officers raided homes in three German states today after the government banned the far-right Wolfsbrigade 44 organisation.The homes of 11 members of the group were searched in Hesse, Mecklenburg West-Pomerania and North Rhine-Westphalia to seize funds and neonazi propaganda. 5 dead, many injured after German man drives car into crowd A man zig-zagged an SUV at high speed through a pedestrian zone in the southwestern German city of Trier on Tuesday, killing five people, including a 9-month-old child, and seriously injuring more than a dozen, officials said. Government has repeatedly discriminated against the north throughout the pandemic, report finds BORIS JOHNSON’S government has repeatedly discriminated against northern regions and communities throughout the coronavirus pandemic, a hard-hitting report revealed today. Colombia: Lawmaker Eduardo Pulgar Captured Amid Bribery Scandal Colombia's Supreme Court of Justice (CSJ) Tuesday ordered the arrest of lawmaker Eduardo Pulgar over the charges of bribery, influence peddling, and crimes against democratic participation.

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Looking to get an audio book of Das Kapital. All of it please. I watched the 10 hour live stream because it was the longest on YouTube but I swear it cuts off unfinished. Anyone have anything?

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synthetic lynching and frozen conflict Do you think it would be possible for us to make a deep faked, synthetic lynching, and then leak it on social media? Could this be used to start a "frozen conflict" on American soil? Will starting such a conflict be necessary to subdue the USA while China passes them?

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Were Marx and Engels also friends or just work partners?

I just wanna know guys I wanna know the answer Were they also heterosexual life partners?

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someone give me a quick rundown on anarchism. what's their endgame? specifically what is the general anarchist "idea" of how anarchism comes to be. if we oversimplify the endgames of other ideologies we can see a pattern: socdem end game - labour party in power, they don't fuck up this time, happy social democratic society that the tories can't dismantle when they get back in demsoc end game - labour party or an "actual" socialist party in power, builds socialism with existing tools, happy socialist society where tories don't exist trotskyist endgame - labour in power, they fuck up, revolution, trotsky in power, liberates the israelis from Palestinian oppression or whatever as part of the global revolution this is specifically a half joke at the expense of the British AWL. broad ML endgame - revolution, them in power, rebuild a USSR type structure but with computers this time dengist endgame - them in power, use capitalist tools to build a socialist society in short, these all essentially revolve around seizing the state, which gives clear lodestones for the various fantasies of a better world that people hold. but what of anarchists? where the aim is to abolish the state, how does one interpret all the events of a state-based world? the dengist can look to china, the ML can calculate if the latest Labour government's reforms is advancing towards their preferred conditions or temporarily delaying them, and of course the socdem can simply look at the polls. but what does the anarchist do? can they cheer when Labour is returned to power on a manifesto of building a million railway lines, or must they decry this state-based action even if it's one of the best things the state has done in their lifetime? or am i being over-expensive? do anarchists instead look to examples of "actually existing anarchism", however temporary, as more of a way to find a potentially viable model towards a philosophical ideal? or to apply anarchist organising techniques to specific practical problems without trying to immanentize the eschaton? try to avoid shitposting about anarkiddies or whatever, i'm not saying anarchists are wrong to take the approach they take (because i don't know what it is), its just largely outside my frame of reference. alternative thread title: Richard Scarry's What Do Anarchists Do All Day

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How does a Marxist explain the fall of Rome?

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Precursors to Socialism

I don't think we've had one of these threads in a while. What are some of your favorite proto-socialist/leftist figures and movements from throughout history? I'm personally a big fan of the Luddites: >Made up of disgruntled textile workers who were laid off due to industrialization without being given any kind of assistance or pensions >Went around smashing up factory machinery as an act of protest against their former employers >They weren't anti-technology despite what the word "luddite" has come to mean but rather a proto labor movement like the Chartists >"At one time there were more British soldiers fighting the Luddites than there were fighting Napoleon on the Iberian Peninsula" according to Wikipedia >Legislation such as the 1812 Frame-Breaking Act had to be passed to make the Luddites' machine-breaking a capital offense (Lord Byron was one of the few prominent national figures to defend the Luddites)

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How much longer do you think capitalism will last for?

Despite all of the vigorous socialist movements of the past 150 years, capitalism has proven itself to be fairly resilient. If one country adopts socialism, the most powerful capitalist nations have proven themselves able to overthrow that country's socialist government, force that government to make capitalist reforms, or make that government do whatever the fuck North Korea is doing. Of course, that is in the unlikely event that socialists manage to seize control of a country in the first place. Most countries have institutions like the FBI that are very effective at stomping out socialist movements before they can become much of a threat to the powers that be. It seems like it takes extraordinary events like devastating wars and severe economic crises to give socialists much of a chance to seize power. Stability and prosperity are the revolutionary's worst enemies. Considering the resilience of capitalism and the relative weakness of socialist movements compared to, say, 100 years ago, it doesn't seem like capitalism is going away any time soon. The only two things that I can see bringing down capitalism are 1) the falling rate of profit (which may take hundreds of years to fall close to 0) and 2) global warming. Of these two things, global warming is probably the most likely to bring down capitalism within the 100 years, considering its potential to massively destabilize economies and governments all around the world. However, before you get your hopes up, it's important to remember that the climate crisis could provide opportunities for many ideologies besides socialism to gain a footing. For example, eco-fascism may be a significant danger. Think of the wave of xenophobia that swept Europe during the European migrant crisis of 2014-2019. That was when about about a million refugees tried to reach Europe. Now imagine just how much worse things could get if tens of millions or hundreds of millions of refugees try to get to Europe. Bear in mind that Europe and other wealthy countries will be struggling with the climate crisis too, so it could be very easy for politicians there to push an "our people first, fuck foreigners"-type attitude. So as the climate crisis ramps up, watch out for reactionary ideologies like eco-fascism making headway. So what do you think? How much longer do you think capitalism will last for?

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Malthusian Elites

Is porky trying to kill the working class on purpose, slowly? Think about the developments of the past decades: - Crushes unions, outsources jobs and crushes blue collar towns, sells them the opiates which cause them to overdose and die or off themselves. - Normal jobs can barely support a person and not a family so blue collar people have less kids - Makes the only living wage jobs require college or higher and saddle those people with student debt which causes people, especially women to delay marriage and childbearing and shortens the window in which they will be fertile to have children, resulting in less or no children per family. It really seems like Porky is trying to make the working class reproduce less, like they want the poor to die so they can inherit the earth. my question to /leftypol/ : are the elite bourgeoisie actually "neo-malthusian"?? Because they realize that because the rich and corporations produce most greenhouse gases and pollution, there are only two alternatives: eco-socialism which would cut off surplus consumption by the rich for environmental purposes if nothing else, or eco-fascist barbarism, where they kill off most of the working class and replace them with automation to allow the elites to continue to live luxurious unsustainable lives, due to smaller numbers.

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👾 /games/ 🎧 general - Official mod-sanctioned gaming-thread. This is the general that in which /games/ are allowed on /leftypol/. This includes all aspects of gaming, such as their broader social consequences. All posts or threads NOT posted in this general will be moved to the appropriate board. General terms of service still apply within this thread. >>>/games/ HAS VERY GOOD THREADS. If you're into more in depth discussion, please give that board a visit.

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Why is leftypol so willing to scrutinize American democracy but not the democracy of autocratic countries that are painted red? I could ask people why America is not a democracy and I'll get a 500 page text explaining why, but when I ask why, say, North Korea, is a democracy, people just say "they have elections lmao".

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Can you have a free market where corporations can mostly do as they please along with a strong, authoritarian government? Is China an example of this?

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hey aussies

Can you explain what the hell is wrong with your soldiers in the afghan?

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Can i get some insight on how a one-party state isn't inherently undemocratic, and having a lot of political parties isn't inherently democratic?

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Came to Paul Cockshott's conclusions on my own

Hey /leftypol/, two days ago my power went out, and out of boredom i decided to come up with an economic and political system. For economics, I decided that people would use digital labor vouchers assigned to them based on hours worked, and would get goods that way. And then yesterday, I decide to look up Paul Cockshott, to see why this board circlejerks him so much. Then I find out that his ideas are basically the exact same thing I came up with weird as fuck Also, thoughts on Cockshott's economics in general? low effort masturbatory shit, anchored

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So this is a prominent point liberals tend to make when it comes to criticizing the actions or failures of a population. They tend to argue from this standpoint as if culture is in complete control of the masses, afterall the individual can choose to behave a certain way, so theoritcally if the whole population behaved that way, they would be changing and ideally improving their culture. This is all argued with the presumption that culture is the key factor dictating the results a soceity produces. This neglects the fact that people are the product of their environment and after growing passed their formative years they are largely set in their ways. It also presumes human beings possess more free will, self-control and self-awareness than they actually do. Anyways, how do I explain as a materialist and communist why this liberal notion is misguided? How do I explain the creation of culture from a dialectical materialist understanding of the world? And how do I dispell the belief that culture is the deciding factor how a society turns out?

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Can someone explain to a brainlet why the rate of profit is falling and is going to keep on falling? Is it because there are more people? Why can't advances in technology make the profit rate up since it allows for more production?

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I think the left's only strategy left is to gaslight rightoids into becoming socialists

It could work. Does anyone have a screenshot of that boomer saying she hates commies but thinks mao is alright because he killed landlords

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the balkans

Would you look at that,its time to shit on every balkan country exept for serbia.

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Everything I don't like is MARXIST >This helps explain the extreme left-wing movement taking hold in America today. First, the movement is extremely and obviously Marxist. BLM explicitly says it is a Marxist organization, and many of the radical left rioters and protesters, who are mostly white Americans, are the products of neo-Marxist indoctrination in our highly taxpayer-subsidized university system. >Just like Marxists of old, the new movement views wrongthink as unforgivable, but the new Marxism is also extremely corporatist. Yes, the useful-idiot foot soldiers might trash a Starbucks or loot a Target, but they have much greater ire toward traditional Christianity, the police, and America’s founding than they do toward any corporation — go ask them. >But they have fundamentally no problem with the existing corporate power structure. The wealth in cities such as Minneapolis runs in lockstep with politicians, not in opposition to them. The new Marxists want to ensure their own people hold positions of power in business and that opponents are pushed out, but there is no push to de-cartelize the economy, increase social mobility, or actually redistribute income and privilege. >It follows, then, that what we see today is some strange and insidious union between corporatism and Marxism. The focus of this corporatist Marxism is exclusively on issues of sex and race, to the point that anyone talking about inequalities in terms of economics is guilty of wrongthink. The left’s pushback against Bernie Sanders, who initially talked exclusively about class rather than race or sex, is instructive. >So yes, multinational corporations think they can ride this tiger for some time. Even the neo-Marxist college professors, who have trained this generation of neo-Marxists, reek of corporatism. They work in a protected and highly cartelized industry, rake in salaries far higher than the average American, drive fancy cars, and live in cloistered and often lily-white neighborhoods. what the fuck is up with the right calling everything they don't like "marxist" they seem to think any sort of "conflict theory" is "marxist", but only when its based on niggèrs and women rising up, but when its a conflict theory based on muh joos/sjws/globalists/satanic q-pedos, etc. then it's based nationalism and obviously true. Are they really this retarded? do they ACTUALLY BELIEVE that the neoliberals are "marxist" in any sense just because they don't like racism?

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Communism in Nepal???

Does anybody pay attention to the communists in Nepal? Or are they too obscure on an international scale? Explain it to me like I'm a child, because I only NOW discovered them yesterday.

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Anti-Ancap/Libertarian Memes

Post some Memes Making fun of Ancaps and Lolberts

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Why do people get so mad at the atomic bombing of Japan?

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Lefty Org General - /log/ - Bunch of Commies Edition

A Thread Dedicated To Leftist Organizations, Primarily in America Websites >Communist Party, USA <Marxism-Leninism, Bill of Rights Socialism >Freedom Road Socialist Organization <Marxism-Leninism, Maoist Oriented >New Afrikan Black Panther Party <Marxism-Leninism-Maoism >Party for Socialism and Liberation <Marxist-Leninist, Marcyist(?) >Socialist Equality Party <Trotskyism >Industrial Workers of The World <Radical Trade Unionism, Anarcho-Syndicalism >Democratic Socialists of America <Social Democracy, "Big Tent" Socialism, Rosa Killers. >Socialist Rifle Association <Big Tent Socialism >Socialist Alternative <Trotskyism >American Party of Labor <Marxism-Leninism, Hoxhaism Party Papers! >CPUSA <People's World: >FRSO <FightBack! News: >NABPP <RashidMod: >PSL <Liberation News: >SEP <World Socialist Website: >IWW <Industrial Worker: <Solidaridad (Spanish-Language News): (Gee Wobblies, why'd your mom give you TWO papers?!) >DSA <The Thorn (Local news): >SRA <Website News: >SA <Socialist Alternative Newspaper >APL <The Red Phoenix The last thread went well, figured I'd make another. The purpose of this thread is to put unaffiliated socialists in touch with national organizations. If I missed any, I apologize. For our international Comrades, I heartily recommend checking out the IMCWP to get statements from communist parties around the globe. Feel free to pitch your org, explain what you're up to, and maybe connect with local anons. Solidarity.

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Decentralized Planned Economy

Does it exist, and if so, how does it function?

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What the fuck even is this shit? Is this some shit you reta- people made up? When did Deng Xiaoping make his own ideology while he was alive? Why do you people keep using a made up term to describe things you do not like? The fuck even qualifies someone to be a Dengist? This shit is libshit Stalinlist tier we already have a thread complaining about the concept of dengism/dengists, check the catalog before making a duplicate topic, anchored

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What are the main differences between Lenin and Stalin's ideologies?

Asking for an anon

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Red pill me on Eric Hobsbawm

Been reading through his history series spanning from 1791 - 1991 and though it’s decent I really can’t make up my mind whether Hobsbawm was an actual communist or just a socdem/left lib Now, I know for a fact that he wasn’t a rightoid at all, nor a centrist, and I know he was at least a Marxist AT ONE POINT; just trying to figure out if he was still one when writing his book. Hopefully bros from /leftybritpol/ help me out with your mans

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The coming social media purge

In the coming months and years, the left will begin to be systematically purged from social media. This already has been happening under Trump to an extent, the main difference being that the right has a cottage industry of people like tim pool and crowder to cry about the right being deplatformed, while the left just gets silently purged (ex: chapos). Additionally anti imperialist news sources like greyzone and venezuela analysis are getting purged as well. The neoliberal dems are convinced the reason Trump won was because of Russian bots and "disinformation", and will pressure the tech companies into banning anything that's not CNN/MSNBC and confirmed by a panel of 15 "moderate" republicans. While the right has a whole ecosystem of alt-tech platforms such as bitchute, voat, the, dozens of racist blogs etc. The left mainly seems to be concentrated on twitter. The ones who will be tolerated will be "moderate" gatekeeping succdems who shut up about imperialism and have foreign policy views that would make Dick Cheney happy. Make no mistake: the left needs to build an infrastructure of it's own, or it will be caught flat footed when the deplatforming comes. The neoliberals are just waiting to get into power from Trump, the natsec elites are coming for us next.

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Toward a New Name Zizek's new effortpost is worth discussing at length. It ties together many ideas of psychoanalysis, ethics, and politics. Some highlights >QUOTE So, what can psychoanalysis tell us about the victory of APRUEBO in Chile? Instead of a pseudo-Freudian probing into the unconscious depths of a nation, it would be productive to begin with Lacan’s notion of the Master Signifier and apply it to the space of ideology. Let us begin with a comparison between Chile and the United States. One of the bad surprises of the US presidential elections was how many votes Trump gained also outside what people consider his constituency – among Blacks, Latinos, even the poor ones, and many women – plus how many votes Biden gained among old white men who were supposed to vote in much larger bloc for Trump. This unexpected reversal proves that Republicans are now, if anything, more of a working class party than Democrats, and that the almost symmetric 50/50 division of the US political body is not directly reflecting a class division but is the result of a whole series of ideological mystifications and displacements.[...] In stark contrast to this clear 50/50 division, the victorious APRUEBO in Chile referendum got no less than 78.27% of the total votes against RECHAZO, which got only 21.73% of the total votes. What is crucial is that this enormous voting gap is directly proportional to the concentration and distribution of wealth and privileges, with a much smaller group of the population being part of the elite (the “Rejection” option) and a majority group being aware of this social inequality and injustice (the “Approval” option). So, Chile is unique not because of some exotic particularity, but, precisely, because it renders directly visible the class struggle, which is obfuscated and displaced in the US and elsewhere. Chile’s uniqueness (exception) resides in the very universality of its situation. But here we should avoid the illusion that the disposition of votes in Chile was more “natural,” faithfully reflecting predominant class divisions, while in the US the electoral count doesn’t “reflect” faithfully the class division, but is distorted by ideological manipulations. There is nothing “natural” in political and ideological struggle for hegemony. EVERY hegemony is the result of a struggle, whose outcome is open. The victory of APRUEBO in Chile does not only demonstrate the absence of ideological manipulations, so that the distribution of votes could “faithfully” reflect class division; APRUEBO won because of a long and active struggle for ideological hegemony. In this context, we should use Ernesto Laclau’s theory of the struggle for ideological hegemony, which is ultimately the struggle for Master Signifiers – not only which Master Signifier will predominate, but also how this Master Signifier will organize the entire political space. Let’s take the obvious example: ecology, the struggle against global warming and pollution. With the exception of (more and more rare) deniers, almost everybody agrees that the ecological crisis is one of the central issues today, that it poses a threat to our very survival. The struggle turns around what Laclau called “chain of equivalences”: to which other signifiers (topics of ideologico-political struggle) will “ecology” be linked? We have state ecology (ony a strong state can deal with global warming), capitalist ecology (only market mechanisms – higher taxes on products that pollute our environment are the way out), anti-capitalist ecology (the dynamics of capitalist expansion are the main cause of our ruthless exploitation of nature), authoritarian ecology (ordinary people cannot understand the complexity of ecological crisis; we have to trust strong state power supported by science), feminist ecology (the ultimate cause of our troubles is the social power of men who are more aggressive and exploitative), conservative ecology (we need to return to a more balanced traditional mode of life), etc. The struggle for hegemony is not just the struggle to accept ecology as a serious issue, but much more the struggle for what this word will mean, how it will be linked to other notions, including science, feminism, capitalism… < interjecting to add here that this is what /leftypol/ is all about, not just about communism winning, but which-communism will win The imposition of a new Master Signifier is, as a rule, experienced as “finding the right name” for what we are trying to grasp. However, this act of “finding” is productive; it establishes a new symbolic field. In Chile, the Master Signifier of the ongoing protests and of the APRUEBO movement is “dignity.” Chile is not an exception here: despite poverty, hunger and violence, despite economic exploitation, the protests that are exploding from Turkey and Belarus to France regularly evoke dignity. Again, there is nothing specifically Leftist or even emancipatory in “dignity”. If one were to ask Pinochet himself about it, he would without any doubt celebrate dignity, though by including it in a different “chain of equivalences” along the patriotic-military line: his 1973 coup saved Chile’s dignity from a totalitarian-Leftist threat. For the partisans of APRUEBO, on the contrary, “dignity” is linked to social justice that will diminish poverty, universal healthcare, guaranteed personal and social freedoms, etc. The same goes for with “justice”: Pinochet would undoubtedly advocate justice, but his kind of justice, not egalitarian economic justice. “Justice” would have meant that everybody, especially those at the bottom, should know their proper place… One of the reasons for the triumph of APRUEBO was that they won the struggle for hegemony, so that, if now “dignity” and “justice” are mentioned in Chile, they mean what APRUEBO stands for. This, of course, doesn’t imply that political or economic struggles can be reduced to discursive conflicts. What it does imply is that the level of discourse has its own autonomous logic, not only in the sense that economic interests cannot be directly translated into symbolic space, but in a more radical sense: how economic and social interests are perceived is already mediated by discursive processes. A simple example: when a country is starving, hunger is a fact. But what matters is how this fact is experienced. Is its cause attributed to Jewish financiers? Is it perceived as a fact of nature (bad weather), or as an effect of class exploitation? Another example: only after the rise of feminism was the subordinated role of women in their families and their exclusion from social life perceived as an injustice. Before that moment, to be married to a loving husband and well provided for was considered great luck. The first step of feminism is not a direct step towards justice, but the awareness of women that their situation is unjust. In a homologous way, workers don’t protest when they live in poverty; they protest when they experience their poverty as an injustice, for which the ruling class, as well as the state, are responsible. Those who are ready to dismiss these considerations as a step towards “discursive idealism” should remember how Lenin was obsessed with details in political programs, emphasizing that “every little difference may become a big one if it is insisted on,” and how one word (or its absence) in a program can change the destiny of a revolution. [...] Remember that, in 1917, Lenin’s slogan for the revolution was not “Socialist revolution” but “land and peace”, the desire of the broad masses to own the land they were working on and to see the end of the war. History is not an “objective” development, but a dialectical process in which what “really goes on” is inextricably mediated by its ideological symbolization. This is why, as Walter Benjamin repeatedly pointed out, history changes the past, i.e., it changes how this past is present today, as part of our historical memory.

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Should I join DSA?

What exactly do they do? Would I be contributing to anything worthwhile by joining and paying dues and shit?

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The overpopulation meme

I'm so tired of right-wingers and gullible liberals buying into this neomalthusian meme.

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Self-criticism, pt. 2

Within the context of realizing a communist society, what mistakes were made by communists in the 20th century? Was it possible to avoid making such mistakes? If so, how?

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Hundreds of people lost at least one eye during the Chilean protests and the government doesn't give a fuck, but some NGO makes a song about "jumping over turnstiles" (what started the riots in Chile) and neocons and even the government started whining about how "violence isn't the way to ask for civil rights".

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/Bolivia/ - Rightious Vegence eidtion

What the fuck bros, it's not meant to go like this, we can't just win and get justice without a terror. There's something wrong, it feels so... good. Sources:

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The Triumph of the Soviet Economy

<There is one extended period in the history of the Soviet economy when it experienced a genuine flourishing. This is the 1950s. The subsequent events in the Soviet economy have to a great extent squeezed this period out of the field of historical and economic research. Turning points like NEP and the 1930s and the degeneration of the command economy in the 1960s1980s have attracted more attention. Ideological considerations have also played a certain role in directing attention to these periods. History, as often happens, served not always consciously the interests of political struggle. Analysis of the reasons for the flourishing of the Soviet economy in the 1950s and the transition in the subsequent period to a slow-down in economic development, in my opinion, deserve much more attention from historians and economists than is the case at present. Ten years of economic development are too long a time for the successes of this decade to be ascribed just to particular temporary factors. <Whilst in the first years of the fourth five-year plan the recovery of the Soviet economy was achieved primarily on an extensive basis, by increasing the numbers employed and fixed capital used and the sown area and livestock numbers in agriculture, in the last two years of the fourth five-year plan labour productivity rose and production costs fell exceptionally quickly. This rapid growth in the efficiency of production delivered exceptionally rapid growth in the real income of the population and retail trade turnover. Although the official data somewhat exaggerate its pace, they nonetheless reflect the trend of this growth. Thus, according to TsSU data, real income per worker increased by 12% in 1949 and 15% in 1950, and retail trade turnover by 20% in 1949 and 30% in 1950. Thanks to this enormous increase in the efficiency of production at the end of the fourth five-year plan, stability of the monetary, credit and financial system was successfully achieved which had previously been rather rare in the Soviet economy. For the first time in many years retail prices declined not only in state but also in kolkhoz market trade, and wholesale prices were reduced considerably in the middle of 1950. <As can be seen from Table 1, the growth of national income in the USSR over the 1950s as a whole was many times greater than in such countries as the USA and UK, significantly exceeded that in France and was higher than in West Germany and even Japan, which grew especially quickly in this period (the pace of growth in Japan was influenced by the fact that by 1950 gross domestic product had not yet reached the pre-war level and at the beginning of this period the country exhibited the high rates of growth characteristic of a recovery period). Despite this, economic growth in the USSR in 1951-55 was higher than in all the remaining major developed countries. <A fundamentally new feature of this period in the evolution of the Soviet economy was the fact that, in contrast to the previous period, intensive factors became the basis of development of the economy. While GDP increased by more than 100%, the number employed rose by only 22% during the 1950s. Thus more than 80% of the increase in GDP was due to growth in labour productivity, whereas before the war less than half was attributable to this source. GDP also grew much faster in the 1950s than did the stock of fixed production capital, which, according to my calculations, increased by only 70% (total fixed capital increased still less), whereas in the pre-war period GDP grew much more slowly than fixed capital. Finally, the material intensity of output declined considerably, whereas before the war and in the 1940s it had risen significantly.

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Honestly, are we at the end of the road for the Internet Commons?

I feel we are nearing a final stage of the “enclosure” of what was once the internet “common net” so to speak; as in we are closing in on the moment when the entire internet is controlled, operated, and curated by porkies and the alphabet soup orgs. I actually remember the older days of the internet; not the early 2000s, but the early 2010s. I remember when the walls were just starting to close in; when websites started to really roll out advertising, when that bastard app Fedbook was born. I remember the entire process of’s subversion into a porky advertised filled shithole. I remember when Reddit became infested with ban happy glownîgger admins and powermods and ass tons of unmasked corporate shilling, I remember the long-march to extinction for the internet forums as sites like Reddit expanded to consume the niche, I remember the days before Google ad shills destroyed the fucking web. Before 4chan was absorbed in a polyp infestation. So many memories of the old web... Many oldfags here say Leftypol is truly one of the surviving artifacts of the Old Web; now this obviously ain’t true since Leftypol is from 2016, however it DOES have the actual feel of the old web, and even if it has trigger happy jannies it’s not at the level of the porky-controlled glowie infested mainstream sites like Feddit. I truly think we are in the last stretch, bros, Biden is already openly pro-censorship, more so than Trump; this will be the last decade for a free internet, maybe even the last five years.

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Can anyone expound succinctly what exactly Anwar Shiekh's argument against the idea of monopoly capitalism is? I've heard him briefly touch on it about how competition is still active and marx's incomplete theory leading to revision already with early marxists. And while I eventually want to read through his huge tome I hope someone here knows something about it to sate my curiosity.

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Any thoughts on this slimey individual? keep these posts in the Internet general, locked

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thoughts on yanis varoufakis?

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Dan Republike / Дан Републике / Republic Day

On 29 November 1943 the Anti-Fascist Council of National Liberation of Yugoslavia (AVNOJ) established the foundations of post-war Yugoslavia as a socialist republic, which was officially proclaimed on the same date in 1945. Republic Day (local name: Dan Republike or Дан Републике) marked the occasion two consecutive days, 29 and 30 November. First celebration was held on 29 November 1944, for on the previous day the Decision of the Presidium of AVNOJ nr. 70 declared that the first anniversary be properly celebrated. The decision was confirmed on 2 November 1946 by law the Federal national assembly, where they declared Republic Day a public holiday. In 1949 it was decided that it be a two-day celebration, which was confirmed in 1955. in the Law on public holidays.

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Boomers and Petit Bourgeois class consciousness

A large problem in the west and barrier to working class action is petit booj class conciousness. The problem is that large parts of the working class in the US own assets (housing, stocks in the form of 401ks) which, while not enough to live off, appreciate in value, and therefore cause their financial self interest to be more aligned with the ruling class than their fellow proles. While neoliberals attempt to explain the generation differences in the young leaning left vs the old leaning right, by race, seeing as the younger generation has more non whites in it, the real and better analysis has to do with accumulated wealth. People close to retirement age in the US are heavily dependent on the 401k/IRA going up so they can maintain their lifestyle as it's slowly doled out. The stonk market going down directly affects them and their income in retirement. The 401k/IRA replacing the pension has been one of the main causes of what I would call petit-booj class consciousness, any person who makes it to retirement age with retirement savings directly tied to the stock market makes retirees or near-retirees financial interests align more with capital than labor. If they own homes this adds even more to it because their financial interest is for their home prices to go as high as possible so they can sell it for as much money as possible, even if that drives up housing prices for young people to where they are unaffordable. A plurality (41%+) of small business owners are boomers, larger than any other group. A combination of these factors, combined with lower levels of education, is what leads the 60+ generation (in the US at least) to lean right. So you see, you can't separate age from class

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ProleWiki — the proletarian encyclopedia

Hello, comrades. Casual lurker here. I'm just passing to let you know of the project me and a few comrades have been doing. It's a Marxist-Leninist-oriented encyclopedia promoting the study, discussion and accessibility of Marxism-Leninism. I know there are a few comrades around here that would benefit from joining our effort and contributing to the spread of revolutionary ideas. If you are interested in making part of this initiative, feel free to bug around the encyclopedia and find out how you can help. We hope to see you there, comrade.

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If you are a /pol/ack who was planing to make a thread then just read this, because you are predictable and one of those following things are what you wanted to make a thread about. >Why are you raiding 4chan? We haven't. Never did. Our Poljak meme was simply so powerful that it echoed to your side of the internet, shattering your self esteem and your little sister's hymen in the process. >LOL TR4NNIES NI99ERS SE3THE You aren't as shocking and impactful as you think you are. This isn't Facebook where a bunch of normalfags might be triggered by your highly original post. You will be banned and your thread will be deleten in two mouse clicks. >[Post that assumes we are progressive liberals like the ones on Twitter] No, we don't care if companies change their profile pic on social media to a rainbow, we don't like Biden and we wouldn't go on a crucade to tell people about the importance of trans restrooms. We think bigotry is moronic, but we aren't radlib progressives. You haven't learned yet that "the left" isn't just progressive liberals. We are socialists. You have likely 0 understanding what that even is, just trust me on this one. Cultural Marxism is a made up buzzword by the way that doesn't relate to any real Marxist theory. >I am a Nazi. Debate me. You are utterly worthless and have no importance. You are not worth a thread. You will just make the same arguments we've heard and debunked a million times before. >But communism never worked!! Stalin killed 6 trillion people and my puppy!!! Marx didn't consider human nature I'm too greedy to share my Japanese sex pillow with you!!!!! Don't make a thread for your trivial misconceptions of communism. Instead, go to our Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread thread and ask a precise question in good faith on there >>1142043. You will learn a thing or two and the world will be a less confusing place to you. >Let's team up. I'm a fascist/reactionary/Nazi/Strasserite and we could team up and defeat (((them))) We can't team up with people whose worldview is entirely not based in reality whatsoever. People like you and what you want to accomplish will not improve the world. Your le epic white ethnostate will not solve the fundamental problems. The only path to a better world is an understanding in historic materialism and material dialectics, which refutes 95% of your fairy tales you use to divide the world up into hostile outgroups. >Why do you want to kill all white people / Why do you hate white people We don't. You are in a constant state of artificially manufactured paranoia which is a key component of your misguided worldview. No, people making movies with brown protagonists and games with homosexual characters is in fact not genocide. No matter how much you twist, bend and rape the UN definition for genocide. >But da Nazis were socialists so you guys are the same as Nazis! The National Socialist Workers Party of Germany merely adopted "socialist" in their name to appeal to socialists and worker movements, who also had strong support before the Third Reich took over. The first ones to be put in concentration camps were socialists, Hitler admitted his definition of socialim was entirely unrelated to Marxian socialism and the Third Reich had private property, private companies and brands. Not socialism. Did I miss something?

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So since at least the Roman financial crisis of 33 AD (and probably earlier) nearly every major financial crisis in history was ultimately driven by a collapse in real estate. How do we use this to our advantage?

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Labor Theory of Value

Why are non-Marxian economists so obsessed with this? The LTV being considered discredited is basically their only defense against Marxism, they bitch and moan about it nonstop. I don't really care much about the LTV because I'm more interested in the philosophical and historical side of Marx, but I have to admit the more I think about it the more thd LTV makes sense. It's not just the crude borrowing from Ricardo that mainstream economists make of it, it works Marx's Hegelianism into his economics. Exploitation leading to the overthrow of the bourgeoisie is basically the master-slave dialectic from Phenomenology of Spirit. But mainstream economists either don't know this or they dismiss it on shallow positivist grounds.

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What are your thoughts on Nikolai Bukharin?


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/leftybritpol/ No Future Edition


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Scottish independence and Irish unity

What do you all think of the concepts of scottish independence and irish unity? wouldn't it be beneficial for both countries to sever their dies to a decaying husk of a monarchy? tbh the only things stopping these things from happening is the rampant tory problem in scotland and the fact the bri'ish can't stand the thought of losing another territory.

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Thoughts on race-realism?

Why are genetics allways ignored in marxist theory, despite influencing the lifes of every human? >inb4 idpol

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Why have psychedelics (and MDMA) gone mainstream in capitalist society? Mushrooms don't seem fruitful to making a good wagie. Just seems like a total 180 in the last few years, hallucinogens are no longer taboo.

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Communism and riots

What would a communist nation do if fascist started rioting? What's the proper way of dealing with a group of people who won't obey and are intent on destroying your society?

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What happened to Michael Parenti?

Seriously this guy hasn't made anything new in like a decade. Is he no longer involved in politics or what?

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god i'm so fucking ready

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The Year is 2034. Global communism has returned with a vengeance. This is the final stand for freedom.

The heavens themselves were ablaze with conflict. The U.S.S Barrack Obama Dreadnought class space shuttle and its flotilla of accompanying battleships were engaged in the final battle that would decide the fight of the world itself. Their enemy, the reformed USSR and the wider Communist world, had launched a final, all out assault on the United States in an attempt to crush the last vestiges of liberty in an increasingly collectivism, totalitarian world. They had attacked the United States space fleet while the President was visiting the newly christened battle cruiser named for the two-term President. "General Secretary Chomsky" said Deputy Chairman Menaker from the deck of The Ocasio-Cortez warship, "Our boarding parties have managed to secure a thermonuclear device on board their capital ship. It will not be long now before capitalism is defeated forever!" The General Secretary's gargantuan cyborg body shook as he let out a great laugh. "Finally, my long term plan of installing a totalitarian socialist empire is on the verge of completion! All my years of planning and undermining the United States has led up to this moment!" Meanwhile, aboard the U.S.S Obama, the bomb had just been discovered. "Holy hell, we're all going to die!" one soldier said. "We need to get the President out of here! It was a mistake to let him come aboard." Grand Admiral Ironside interjected. Suddenly, a voice rang out from across the room. They all knew who it was. It was the President of the United States. "At ease, Admiral. I wouldn't miss this for the world." He said. The president walked over to the thermonuclear bomb. It's countdown clock had hit the 60 second mark. Time was running out. The President activated his wireless earpiece. "God Emperor Bezos, permission to leave the station?" The President asked. "For what purpose, President Ojeda?" the man on the other side of the line asked. "To give the commies back their bomb." President Ojeda responded. "Permission granted." Bezos said, then ended the communication. "But sir, you don't have a space suit!" an aide said. "None of that matters now! Clear the room and open that airlock." Ojeda responded. Everyone left the room, except for the President and the bomb which was on the verge of detonation. He signaled them to open the airlock. As the armored metal doors slid open, the vacuum of space rushed rushed to meet our hero, launching him and the 100 megaton payload into the endless void. He merely held his breath and said a silent prayer, knowing that the success of his next move would define the course of human history for the next millennium. Ojeda propelled himself towards the nuclear payload, which was catapulting towards The Ocasio-Cortez and managed to grab on to one of the exposed wires. He pulled himself up and grabbed a stronger hold of the bomb. He figured that guiding a bomb had to be just like riding the mechanical bull in his favourite bar back in Rochester, Minnesota. And so he guided the device through a sea of debris and laser fire, twisting and turning to narrowly avoid the blinding beams of energy that would have meant the end of him and of liberty itself. The countdown was at 10 seconds... 9... 8... The Ocasio-Cortez was so close. Just a few more seconds. 7... 6... 5... Ojeda leapt from the bomb. It hurtled on towards the viewing window of the bridge, where all the senior leadership of the global communist empire were situated. 4... 3... "OH SHIT!" The General Secretary exclaimed. 2... 1... A massive flash of light engulfed the Ocasio-Cortez warship. Even through the vacuum of space, the magnitude of the explosion was felt across the battlefield. Observers could even see the explosion while on Earth. The shockwave of the explosion sent President Ojeda careening back towards Earth's atmosphere. He felt the heat of re-entry. The kinetic force of atmospheric drag caused Ojeda's body to light up in flames. If not for his hearty constitution, he would've been disintegrated immediately. Ojeda maneuvered himself to turn around and see the results of his work. Sure enough, bits of flaming wreckage were hurtling towards Earth. But he say something else...Chomsky had survived and was following him in free fall! The General Secretary rushed towards his, his hulking cyborg body was partially melted from the heat and nuclear energy. What remained of his face had been melted away, leaving only the cyborg skeletal structure that contained his human brain. "YOU STOLE MY DREAM!" his electric voice modulator system spouted, making crackling and wheezing sounds indicating that his cyborg automaton body had suffered significant internal damage. Chomsky's clawed metal fingers wrapped around Ojeda's throat, as the two of them hurtled towards Earth. Ojeda began uppercutting the metal ribcage of Comsky's cyborg body. He managed to punch through the armored metal chassis and reached in, feeling around for the vulnerable human organs that sustained his enemy. He grabbed at Chomsky's heart and tore it from it's metal containment unit. Chomsky howled in pain, then gritted his teeth and smiled. "I'm a socialist, we don't need those!" He smiled. Suddenly, man and machine both collided with the ground. Ojeda felt a heavy thud and then blacked out unconscious. He awoke only moments later to the sight of Chomsky reattaching his severed mechanical limbs. Both men were heavily injured. They were on a desert island somewhere. Ojeda spat blood out and rose to his feet. Chomsky turned his head 180 degrees, with a look of horror and disgust on his face. "Why won't you die?" Chomsky spat. "I can't die until I see communism die first" Ojeda responded. The final fight was on. Ojeda rushed forward leaping at his adversary. He threw a punch that knocked knocked Chomsky down. Chomsky quickly stood and responded by using his sharpened talons to stab directly into Ojeda's gut. Ojeda grabbed Chomsky's arm. He pulled Chomsky's arm through his own body, to inch himself closer to his opponent. Chomsky looked on in horror. "W-what are you doing?" The cyborg socialist leader said, clearly afraid. "Don't...lose your head...Mr Chomsky" said Ojeda, before grabbing the General Secretary's metalic skull and pulling it completely off. He then used all of his strength to crush the metallic skull and turn the brain within to paste. With his last breath, Ojeda had vanquished the symbol and leader of socialism, thereby braking the back of the communist empire. He fell back, looking into the sky. He could see all the previous presidents looking down on him. He heard a number of familiar voices speak from the heavens. "Excellent work, Mr President." said Harry Truman. "The world will never forget what you've done here today." said Dwight Eisenhower. "We're proud of you." said Ronald Reagan. President Ojeda shed a tear. His mission was over. It was time to rest. The world was free from communism at last.

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Whenever I debate a capitalist or a rightist, or even really anyone, on the ideas of socialism/marxism, they always point to the same statistics and the same argument, each and every fucking time. What is it? >"but mao killed (anywhere from 25 million to 70 million) under communism, argument destroyed" does anybody here have good studies and realistic estimates on how many actually died in the great famine?

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can someone explain the obsession with "dengoids" on here? why is it that whenever anyone on here says anything good about China, they are automatically called a "dengoid" or a "neoliberal" (or even a "fascist"???) for just saying anything positive and commendable about China? I would expect better of leftists than to just recycle neocon propaganda whenever anyone compliments another country. why is it so hard for you to accept that China has positive qualities that are worth recognizing?

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Sociliast Countires of the 21st century

Let's talk about the socialist countries of the 21st century and why exactly they differ so much from the socialist countries of the 20th century, Because it seems to me that almost every single socialist country has made some types of reforms weather those reforms are big, China and Vietnam, or small Cuba DPRK and Laos. I come to ask why? Why is it that these countries are making such reforms? Is it because of 21st century is a heavily capitalist one? Or is it because these counties are revisionist and just think Communism has cool aesthetics. I really am curious

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The best and fastest way to achieve Communism

Stop wasting our times with childish stuff and start to do actual things, as you see we got Communists of Eastern bloc with power of influence and strong leadership traits like former KGB agents for example, all what we have to do is search for them, get in contact with them, gather people and let us led by them then just watch how the new USSR is rising.Random fact: 1990 wanted to get rid of Gorbachev and preserve USSR.

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What do you think inhibits revolutionary potential in others ? another thread on here put forward that adderall could help people reach class consciousness faster now i want to have the inverse of that discussion whzat drugs do you think are pacifying the proletariat into a sedentary lifestyle mine would be anti depressants and i'd be interesed if anyone was a doctor in psychology had a marxist leninist perspective on all of this (lexapro pictured a common anti deppressant)

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Communism is a pipedream

Before you sperg out, I don't say that socialism is not possible in principle, as in management of economy by one entity such as state/corporation/whatever according to plan. But I argue that communism is not possible IN PRINCIPLE, as in stateless anarchist post-scarcity society. First about definitions: By State I mean formalized institutions of government. Some argue that government != state, and that state is defined mainly by it being a tool of class struggle, but by that logic soviet union was not a state, or NK is not a state, because there were no antagonistic classes anymore, so no class struggle. Obviously any person claiming that would be laughed out of the room. So, the main prerequisite of communism, as in system with no formalized government institutions is post-scarcity, and not just post-scarcity in some items, but post-scarcity in ALL items, because we have for example post-scarcity in air and water, but we obviously don't have communism. So, is this post-scarcity in ALL a realistic assumption? I think we have no justified reasons to make that assumption. Our planet has finite matter, our solar system has finite matter, our universe has finite matter. From this it is far more justified to assume that there would always be SOME deficit resources. And deficit resources would always necessary mean a management of these deficit resources, and management always would mean a system of formalized institutions, i.e. a State. The only was post-scarcity and communism could work is literal Matrix scenario, a complete virtual simulation, where post-scarcity in ALL is achievable. But would Marx and Engels really embrace this virtual utopia of humanity retreating from reality to their hedonistic delusional heaven, if they saw it? Wouldn't they recoil in disgust? I know I would, because there's something fundamentally self-defeating in this scenario, fundamentally cowardly and capitulating.

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News 11/30/20

EXCLUSIVE: Iran tells MBZ it will hit UAE in response to a US attack According to the source, Iran told Mohammed bin Zayed: "We will hold you responsible for the assassination of Fakhrizadeh."The UAE, which lies just 70km away from Iran over the Gulf, is a hawkish ally of Trump and recently concluded a normalisation deal with Israel that has already seen close ties built over several sectors, including security. Ethiopia's PM savours victory, Tigrayan leader says war not finished Ethiopia’s Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed lauded his troops on Monday for ousting a rebellious northern movement, but the leader of Tigrayan forces said they were still resisting amid fears of a protracted guerrilla conflict. Protesters surround Netanyahu's residence calling for him to resign PROTESTERS surrounded Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s official residence in Jerusalem again yesterday.Over 1,000 demonstrators rallied to continue the six-months-long campaign to force the embattled premier to resign. Venezuela's Communist Party denounces censorship ahead of the December 6th parliamentary election In a statement addressed to the Communist and Workers' Parties of the world, the Communist Party of Venezuela (PCV) denounces the censorship that has been imposed upon the Party's electoral campaign, ahead of the December 6th parliamentary election. As the PCV points out, the communicational blockade against the Party was intensified following the decision to create the Popular Revolutionary Alternative (APR) together with other political and social organizations". Ecuador: Union for Hope Awaits Decision to Contest Elections Ecuador's Contentious Electoral Tribunal (TCE) partially accepted Sunday a claim against the progressive coalition Union for Hope (UNES), thus delaying again the participation of running mates Andres Arauz- Carlos Rabascall in the presidential elections to be held in February next year. Losses for Bolsonaro, wins for center-right in Brazil local polls For the first time in its history, Lula's and Rousseff's Workers' Party (PT) failed to win a single mayoral race in Brazil's 26 state capitals.Traditional parties to the center and right meanwhile consolidated the comeback they made in the first round, including Sao Paulo Mayor Covas's Brazilian Social Democracy Party (PSDB) and Rio mayor-elect Paes's Democrats (DEM). Cuba Condemns U.S. Operation in Havana's San Isidro The government of Cuba says it is aware of the current involvement of the U.S. government in interference in Cuba and the logistical support supplied to a group in San Isidro by the U.S. embassy. National Union of Journalists condemns Ulster unionists' death threats against journalists in Northern Ireland Two reporters for the Northern Ireland edition of the Sunday World newspaper have been contacted by police over the threats, which included a threat to shoot and kill one of them. Police call tear-gassed Polish lawmaker a protest threat Polish police said Sunday that an officer who sprayed tear gas into the face of a member of parliament during a protest probably did so because he perceived the politician as a threat. Far-right anti-EU Estonian finance minister named country’s ‘most influential person’ by major daily newspaper As well as opposing immigration, Helme and his party oppose LGBT rights. As part of the party’s ‘10 Commandments’, they pledge to get “gay and multicultural propaganda” out of schools, as well as only permitting education to be conducted in Estonian. US Embassy in Hungary slams article likening Soros to Hitler On Saturday, Szilard Demeter, a ministerial commissioner for culture and the head of the Petofi Literary Museum in Budapest, wrote an opinion piece in pro-government news site Origo referring to Europe as “George Soros’ gas chamber,” and calling Soros “the liberal Führer (whose) liber-aryan army deifies him more than did Hitler’s own.” QAnon Gains Traction in Russia Data gathered by Arkhipova since August reveals thousands of Russian-language social media posts about QAnon. On VKontakte and Telegram — an encrypted messaging service popular in Russia – groups dedicated to spreading the conspiracy theory in Russia have grown to include tens of thousands of members.

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yall just going to pretend this shit ain't gold

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International General: Funposting

All the country generals are de facto funposting threads. But we are internationalists, we should have international funposting between comrades of all nations. Share the news of the day from your country, funpost about it. Today in the UK: Everything is still fucked. What about you /leftypol/?

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Irreversible and self-sustaining methane plumes in the Arctic sea Class conflict? Falling rate of profit? Revolution? Pffft, please tovarish. It's over, mate. Human civilization will collapse so hard, it will make the Russian prole reality pre-1917 revolution look downright luxurious and "revolution" isn't going to be the magic pill that will make everything get better or help stave off the worst of it all.

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Rightoids Are Living In Nıghtmare

Yesterday Trump had lose and all rightoids had triggered too much that they were nearly started an civil-war.They cried,coped and screamed Now.their greatEthno-State Animu-Nippon is becoming like USA or Germany and they are becoming more triggered.Seeing them being crazy is so based I hope tomorrow Merkel would declare (((Germany))) to post-national country like Canada and Putin would replaced by an liberal who would make Russia like Europe. However we will still live in capitalism,seeing them being more crazy will be based...

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A serious discussion on "identity politics"

I hope the jannies don't ban me for this, as I seek to discuss this topic in good faith. I have noticed that a lot of people on this board seem to despise "identity politics", i.e. politics that focuses on issues specific to groups that aren't defined by class. There's often this notion that focusing on race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. distracts from the "real issues", i.e. class issues. I object to this notion. Firstly, race oppression, gender oppression, sexual orientation oppression, etc. are real issues that need to be addressed. There are countless studies showing that women, ethnic minorities, and LGBT people experience hardships not typically faced by men, dominant ethnic groups, and cishet people. Secondly, it not necessarily true that those things distract from class issues, as a number of feminists, civil rights activists, and LGBT activists have been socialists. Examples include Victoria Woodhull, Emma Goldman, W. E. B. Du Bois, Martin Luther King Jr., Cornel West, Oscar Wilde, and Bayard Rustin. There are also many socialist organizations that promote these kinds of things, such as Rojava, Democratic Socialists of America, and the Swedish Left Party. Additionally, there's this idea that focusing on identity politics divides the working class by chasing certain people away from the left. This might be true to an extent for some people (most notably cishet white men), but identity politics could actually be a draw for some people. Women and ethnic minorities might find socialism more appealing if addresses issues specific to their groups in addition to class. Of course, there also plenty of white men who are drawn to socialism even if it talks about feminism and racial equality. My thought is for the left to put the most emphasis on the issues that effect the most people (most notably class issues), but still make an effort to address issues specific to non-class groups. Personally, I wish people here had less of a hate boner for identity politics, as there are many good discussions to be had on these sorts of issues. So what do you think?

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Jenny Marx's Questionnaire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jenny Marx™, the daughter of Karl Marx™, created a questionnaire which she invited important people to take, among them her father, Leó Frankel, etc. In all honesty, it's a silly little questionnaire, however it does reflect one person's priorities and such. I would like to invite you to take this questionnaire (see template below). I will also try to find "famous people" who took it, and post them, just to maintain the thread and such. Please use your appropriate flag while answering, so that the community could mock you, etc. Jenny's questionnaire (Template. Please copy-paste the following and insert your own answers under after the orange meme arrow.) >The Quality you like best < >The Quality you like best in man < >The Quality you like best in woman < >Your chief characteristic < >Your favourite occupation < >The vice you hate most < >The vice you excuse most < >Your idea of happiness < >Your idea of misery < >Your aversion < >Your hero < >Your heroine < >The poet you like best < >The prose writer you like best < >Your favourite flower < >Your favourite dish < >Your Maxim < >Your motto < >Your favourite colour < >Your favourite Colour of eyes & hair < >Your favourite Names < >The character in history you most dislike < ... that is all, comrades!

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Soviet economic performance

Well, how was it? I know looking at some comparisons with similar undeveloped nations the Soviets industrialized incredibly fast and ended up with a higher life expectancy than the US. Anyone else with knowledge or insight on this topic? Since it is usually the first line of attack by reactionaries on the Soviet legacy.

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How were past ML societies states?

If the workers owned the means of production through the state, doesn’t that mean that there isn’t classes anymore? (I’m talking about societies like the ussr under Lenin/Stalin and China under Mao)

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>meet well-read communist >turns out he's a leftcom/ultra <learn a year ago that he actually helped in literal lib-bourg campaign I mean, honestly. Is this a trend? Fucking ultras/left"coms" scorching actual commies based on... shit... and then participating in pro-lib campaigns? I'm a hardcore ML, and I've just noticed this trend. It's almost as if you couldn't criticize the USSR based on communist principles, thus you turn toward to literal lib-shilling. It's a very comfortable position, btw. It allows you, as a "leftcom/ultra" to shit on the USSR, while it enables you to delve into the idpol-heavy cultural sphere of Western leftism. It's almost perfect, lol. I have a """comrade,""" an left-com, who shits on le USSR, but just recently participated in a literal liberal party's campaign. Are you guys, like, fucking retarded or something?

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i love china

when you think about it, china did more for the poor workers than the ussr, or hell, any other country. socialism or not, i would like to thank china for giving me cheap shit to consoom in my third world shithole, that was previously only accessible to rich kids in the first world en masse. here's to another decade of cheap shit for me, truly the world's saviour. i love markets

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News 11/23/20

KKE MP Asks to Be Relieved of Parliament Duties So He May Serve as Doctor in Larissa Communist Party of Greece (KKE) MP and pulmonologist Giorgos Lambroulis asked Parliament to temporarily excuse him from his duties as one of eight vice presidents of the body so that he may help out his region Larissa, central Greece, in fighting the coronavirus pandemic. Venezuela's Communist Party slams reformist "Plataforma de la Clase Obrera Antiimperialista (PCOA)" "The government of President Maduro, with a clear social democratic orientation but with a leftist-progressive rhetoric, currently implements an economic policy of a liberal-bourgeois fashion, which is consolidated in the privatization law – misnamed the Anti-Blockade Law – accompanied by a labor policy that destroys the value of the workforce and the labor rights of the Venezuelan working people of the city and the countryside." Kerala Communist Government Withdraws Controversial Move To Promulgate Police Act Ordinance Kerala Police Act, 2011, has been amended by the Vijayan government “to prevent cyber attacks on women and children” by adding a clause Section 118-A.The Pinarayi Vijayan Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPM) Government will decide on the ordinance after discussion in the State Assembly and receiving feedback from various sections. Labour leader accused of ‘direct’ political interference in purge of party members It comes after his predecessor Jeremy Corbyn was hit by the same charge in the Equality and Human Rights Commission’s (EHRC) report on allegations of anti-semitism in the party. Militant network pushes homemade assault rifles The network, Deterrence Dispensed, claims to have thousands of members around the world. “The wonderful thing about our work is that we are mostly anonymous and we are sharing our knowledge and our information,” J Stark told the documentary Plastic Defence. Siberian Schoolkids Charged With Terror Over Minecraft Plot – Reports Investigators in the Krasnoyarsk region announced the arrest of three 14-year-old “anarchists” over the summer on suspicion of training at abandoned sites to commit acts of terrorism. According to information obtained from the regional Federal Security Service (FSB) branch, the investigators said the unnamed suspects read banned literature and watched videos on how to make explosives. Russian police to include both locals and foreigners in new database of facial images, fingerprints and genomic information Russia's Ministry of Internal Affairs is planning to create a biometric data bank of facial images and fingerprints for both Russians and foreigners, allowing the authorities to identify unknown people more easily. Egypt: Activists and former presidential candidate put on terror list Abdelmoneim Aboul Fotouh, who ran for the presidency in 2012, and Alaa Abdel Fattah, a leftist activist who has been in and out of detention for years, are two of the most prominent figures reportedly named by the Cairo Criminal Court. Human rights groups and unions demand French government drop plans to make filming the police illegal THOUSANDS of people took to the streets in Paris and other French cities at the weekend, urged by civil liberties campaigners and journalist groups to protest against a proposed security law they say would impinge on freedom of information and media rights. Guatemala: Two Young Protesters Lose an Eye Due to Gas Shots Roosevelt Hospital spokeswoman Sharon Avila Monday confirmed that the two protesters who suffered eye trauma from the impact of tear gas allegedly thrown by the National Civil Police (PNC) lost their left eye. U.S. Navy rear admiral makes unannounced visit to Taiwan: sources A two star Navy admiral overseeing U.S. military intelligence in the Asia-Pacific region has made an unannounced visit to Taiwan, two sources told Reuters on Sunday, in a high-level trip that could vex China. China Moon Mission Will Try To Bring Back The First Lunar Rocks In Decades China is planning to launch an uncrewed spacecraft to the moon on Tuesday, which will shovel up lunar rocks and soil and bring them back to Earth. If successful, it would be the first time any country has retrieved samples from the moon in more than 40 years.

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Ben Garrison Edits


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On Anarchism

For any system of societal organization to exist and endure, it must develop a means by which it maintains itself. In doing so, a State is formed, thereby destroying the Anarchist society. Many Anarchists simply imagine that they won’t need a mechanism to maintain their society. A few Anarchists do have the intelligence to acknowledge this necessity, and will describe one system or another by which laws are made and enforced. The Anarchist will then shout and cry six ways from Sunday that their system of law enforcement isn't a State, despite it doing everything a State does, and appearing as a State to everyone that isn't steeped in the same esoteric literature as them. Some will say that the organization doesn’t actually have any means to impose its will. An organization with no teeth is meaningless. The Anarchist idea of eliminating all meaningful institutions will result in the degeneration of all human society beyond the scale of small subsistence agrarian communities. Even at this small scale, society cannot function without some level of coercion and forcing of certain behaviors, and a mechanism through which that force is applied. While most Anarchists may not be directly suggesting primitivism, were an Anarchist system of non-organization be adopted, that would ultimately be the result, right up until the moment an organized society comes across your community of voluntary associative potato farmers and decides to annex it. Anarchists assert that the largest structure of society should be based only on peer-to-peer, moment-to-moment reciprocal exchange. This concept of purely operating on these peer-to-peer "voluntary associations" doesn't hold for the complexity of even the most mundane and civilian elements of human society. How do you create a sewage system without mandating that plumbing is constructed to a standard? Other Anarchists have said that they would, in fact, force people to conform to a sewage standard, then fail to describe how. Through what mechanism do you create the sewage standard in the first place, and subsequently force people to adhere to that standard, without creating a State? How do you handle bad faith actors? How do you investigate an accusation of theft, murder, or rape? Many Anarchists have told me that there simply wouldn’t be bad faith actors in an Anarchist society, which is undeniable stupidity. Others say they can just shoot the criminal, which implies if I want someone dead I just have to accuse them of a crime and I'll be justified in executing them on the spot. That is not a society I want to live in. If you create a court system to investigate and adjudicate such problems, congratulations, you've made a State! Nice Anarchist State you have there! How do you raise an army in an Anarchist society, and how do you command this army, without betraying your Anarchist principles? Some have pointed to such entities as the Makhnovists, which definitely did reasonably well for as long as they were being bankrolled by the Soviets, but had no means to maintain themselves without State backing. Further, they relied on conscription for manpower, and you were forced under threat of execution to obey the commands of your superiors. Some voluntary association that was. As can be seen in both online and offline communities, when Anarchists are confronted with these hard questions about how they'd address certain necessary matters of a society, they handwave it away as not existing in an Anarchist society, or simply tell you to kill yourself, or vomit other such insults. They will then, without a hint of irony, appeal to a higher authority to have people barred from asking these hard questions. Rarely, an Anarchist will attempt to answer these hard questions, and in doing so reveal their gross ignorance of the scale and scope of even the most mundane and civilian of societal necessities. Anarchists seem to believe that the world we live in is far simpler than it is in reality, not that this is exclusive to Anarchists. Whether this is a refusal or an inability to comprehend the complexity of these matters, or a combination thereof, I can't say. What I will say, though, is that there is a reoccurring sentiment to adopt an idyllic, simpler, past existence of humanity (otherwise known as "return to monkey"). There's a certain twisted parallel that can be drawn to the fetishization of the past that Fascists engage in, though the motivations and end desire are, of course, incomparable. I'm not sure what conclusions can be drawn from this parallel, if any. Do you, the Anarchist reading this, have answers to these problems? Do any living Anarchists have practicable answers to these problems? If not, you will continue to fail as you always have, accomplishing little more than a civilian labor union (which, while a force for good, is not a country), or a fleeting guerrilla resistance against a State (for only as long as you're being bankrolled by a different State).

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Socialism under Joe Biden keep these type of posts in the Internet general, locked

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United States to possibly reintroduce the Firing Squad and Gas Chamber >The rule – which goes into effect on Dec. 24 – comes as the Justice Department has scheduled 5 executions during the lame-duck period, including 3 just days before President-elect Joe Biden takes office. First the Iran stuff, now this. They really are pushing everything out the door all at once.

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/CHALLENGE/ Random Tendency Selection: Steelmaning edition.

Let's play a game, /leftypol/ Roll to get your number, and then for the rest of the thread you must argue why the tendency you have been assigned is correct. This exercise allows us to understand and critique other leftists by steel manning their position. I hope this can contribute to some interesting discussions.

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Why is democracy good?

-2 dumb people have more influence than 1 smart person. -Policy gravitates towards the lowest common denominator. -There is no actual benefit or reason for an individual to be knowledgeable about detailed policy outcomes since his vote is ultimately meaningless. -Assumes policies are desirable because they are popular. -A practical way to achieve power within a democracy is to form a voter coalition. Direct democracy is thus unsustainable. The logical conclusion of democracy is a 2 party system. -Representatives necessarily have to appeal to a mass of uninformed retards with a message that makes them feel good. -Divides the population into voter coalitions creating conflict between neighbors. -A handful of elites always exists in a society which disproportionately affects the policy outcomes of the system. Within a democratic system these elites will bribe multiple different (and opposing) representatives of voter coalitions. This (ironically) results in a lack of accountability as compared to more traditional systems such a monarchy.

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How will we rise above “woke“ Twitter?

Woke Twitter is honestly a bad look for the left....

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Can we expect the American proletariat to rise up, or are they permanently trapped in false consciousness and labor aristocratic fruits of imperialism? What will be the aftermath of the next four years of Democrat presidency, will they get disillusioned or placated? Is our only hope revolution in the hyperexploited global south, or would this be going against Marx's prediction that the first revolutions would arrive in the most industrialized and prosperous nations?

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You will NEVER EVER have a relationship like that of Marx and Engels.

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"Socialist States" Are Enemies of the Proleteriat

The USSR could have never been socialist because it was a revolution in a feudal state. The forces of history cannot skip a mode of production; capitalism must engulf the planet entirely before socialism becomes a viable alternative, just as feudalism engulfed the world entirely before the liberal revolutions were possible. Each mode of production is shorter than the last. Antiquity's slavery lasted for thousands of years, feudalism lasted for hundreds, and capitalism has lasted for a countable amount of decades. It is thus not a surprise that the beginnings of socialist ideology developed in the womb of capitalism before capitalism had eclipsed the world. The USSR, Cuba, North Korea, and China were all feudal long after Marx died, and even longer after the utopian socialists, but this is an idiosyncrasy of the shorter lifespan of capitalism compared to earlier modes of production. We are finally beginning to see a world socialist revolution brewing, in the 2020s. The key developments allowing its fruition have been the outsourcing of manufacturing to the semi-periphery, and then outsourcing raw material production to the periphery. Once the US has outsourced all of its industrial work to China, and China has outsourced all of its raw resource allocation to Africa, real socialist revolutions will begin. This will be recognized when capitalism reaches a point where semi-periphery countries start pushing for becoming service economies like the west, and when periphery countries start being outsourced manufacturing jobs. There will be no countries left to specialize in raw resource production, and the contradictions will make themselves clear, exploding the system like a bloated corpse rotting in the sun. But let us return to the assertion of the title. If a revolution is performed in a feudal economy, it by necessity must be capitalist, regardless of the ideology of the revolutionaries. This is why all socialist revolutions of the 20th century devolved into state capitalism. They were unable to leave the transitory period, not realizing they had just ended the transitory period from feudalism to capitalism. Capitalism had only truly begun with the establishment of these "socialist states", industrializing former feudal societies to allow for the three-part world system we have today. Thus, like western states, so-called "socialist states" are capitalist states and are enemies of the proleteriat. Deng will never press the "establish socialism" button; a violent revolution will be necessary in China just like elsewhere, regardless of the ruling class' lip service to Marx. Mark my words, comrades: socialist revolutions will begin once the periphery begins industrializing on a mass scale as we saw happen in China. Africa will be the main theater for this development. Once the global south begins industrializing, living standards in the core countries will lower and revolutions will begin. It will follow the same pattern as the liberal revolutions did: first the core countries (the most modern and industrialized nations, just like Marx predicted), then the semi-periphery, then the periphery. Periphery nations will have nowhere to outsource their raw material extraction to, allowing class consciousness to grow there. Semi-periphery nations will pursue a service economy and industrialization will rest entirely upon the periphery that will be growing in class consciousness. The resulting lack of imperialism will flow upwards, and those workers who have the least to lose due to their downward mobility - those in the western service economies - will lead the revolution first, contra the standard "labor aristocracy" narrative. We will be living in socialism by the end of the century.

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can anarchism be dialectical?

i'm not an anarchist but i do believe that the state can be against the people. a debate on which is more totalitarian, government or private corporations, if feel is kinda moot as they both can go against the people and (no matter how much democracy) both can become tyrannical. I agree with Bakunin when he said "the people's stick", but i also agree that there has to be a transition. If global communism is achieved would the concept of state not just eventually sliver away? tl;dr: can there be anarchism after communism?

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/ltg/ - Liberation Theology General

Considering the success of previous ChristCom generals, I thought I'd start a general for discussion of religious socialism in general, from Christianity to Islam to Buddhism to anything else in between. This is a place to discuss the long and complex relationship between religion and socialism, and how we expect religion to further evolve in relation to progressive struggles. Notable Liberation Theologians, religious revolutionaries, and general religious anti-capitalists by faith: Christian: John Brown Harriet Tubman Francis Bellamy Leo Tolstoy Dorothy Day Martin Luther King Jr. Gustavo Gutierrez Leonardo Boff Jon Sobrino Juan Luis Segundo Oscar Romero Camilo Torres Desmond Tutu Hugo Chavez Evo Morales Islamic: Malcolm X Ali Shariati Muammar Gaddafi Siad Barre Zulfikar Ali Bhutto Yasser Arafat Hamid Dabashi (although he calls for Liberation Theodicy in particular) Buddhist: Buddhadasa Bikkhu Han Yong-Un Giro Senoo Uchiyama Gudo Tenzin Gyatso (yes, he is a CIA asset, and yes he has been a useful idiot for imperialism, but his Buddhist praise of Marxism still makes him relevant to the conversation of Buddhist socialism) I welcome any anons knowledgeable in Hinduism, Judaism, or any other faith to contribute their major socialist thinkers, as I am very much unacquainted with those schools of religious socialism. PDFs of various works within Liberation Theology are also very welcome.

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Are 3D printed firearms the path to communism?

3D printing has become relatively very cheap now and there are thousands of blueprints for all kinds of weapons online that you can download and build at home easily if you know what you're doing, this can pretty much solve the issue of arming the revolution since these are untraceable by any authority and can be manufactured and distributed in a relatively short time. Moreover these can ensure the stability of any future communist society since every family can now own a 3D printer and produce their own goods at home including weapons, thus a socialist government can't choose to go against the will of its people due to its immense state power.

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Why is this board so obsessed with Paul Cockshott?

There seems to be a number of contemporary socialist thinkers who do work similar to his, including Richard D. Wolff, Robin Hahnel, Takis Fotopoulos, and Pat Devine. However, I rarely ever see people talk about them. I am particularly surprised about Richard D. Wolff, as he seems to be much better known than Cockshott. I don't have anything against Cockshott, but I kind of wish that other contemporary socialist intellectuals, particularly socialist economists, would get more attention here.

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Redpill me on Lamarckian inheritance. It seems pretty interesting and would have huge implications if it turns out to be true. Just take a look at books like The Bell Curve to see what kind of horrors capitalists justify with genetics.

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What are your thoughts on the utopian puritans like Quakers, Shakers and Diggers? Were they leftists?

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New Multitude- The relaunch

1. New site is up you can support the site at (the plan is for original translations to be patreon exclusive for a length of time before they are up on the site) 2. Do you have something unique, helpful or funny to say? please get in touch. I will help you write your article. I am a college teacher by trade (specifically sociology and social studies) so even if you have no experience in writing, I can help edit your piece. What we want: unique theory, guides and explainers of both classic and new theory, translations, scene guides, news explainers from people on the ground, book reviews, etc 3. Global Scope. Let's face it, there are hundreds of similar sites out there that cover US/UK politics. There's nothing wrong with that and we will continue to accept western submission, but we would REALLY like to build on a niche that is missing: a truly global site with analysis and news from around the world. If it's not you, perhaps you know someone from your local scene who is a good writer? 4. Translations. I want to start putting up a translation a month of work that has hitherto gone untranslated into English. This could be classic articles or new authors and can be hard theory or even short stories, news analysis or even poems. It would be amazing if leftypol could help source some candidates for translation. 5. Promotion. I'll be honest I have no idea how to do this. We have a twitter account but not many followers and I see other leftist magazines getting loads of followers. Does anyone have experience in this or have any suggestions? 6. finally, thank you to all the artists and writers and supporters who have helped with the launch. There are some great writers and people on leftypol and I want to extend my thanks to you in getting this project off the ground. Solidarity!

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anyone here work/volunteer for a labour union? Whats it like? Do you recommend it?

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A lot of people on leftypol reject lesser-evilism because they assume that the two evils are more-or-less the same and thus you cannot engage in harm reduction by electing the lesser evil. I will make the case that lesser-evilism can accomplish harm reduction by comparing the policies of Barack Obama to the policies of Donald Trump. Not their words, but their actual polices as president. Barack Obama will serve as a proxy for the Democratic party while Trump will serve as a proxy for the Republican party. <Banking regulations >Obama passed the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act >Trump partially repealed the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act <Healthcare >Obama passed the Affordable Care Act. >Trump repealed a crucial part of the act, the individual mandate. <Tax policy >Obama raised taxes on the rich. >Trump lowered taxes on the rich. The 400 richest families paid a lower tax rate than the bottom 50% for the first time under Trump. <Trade >Obama supported free trade, leaving existing trade policies alone and proposing a new one (Trans-Pacific Partnership). >Trump opposed free trade, enacting a bunch of tariffs and starting a trade war with China. <Environment >Obama passed some environmental regulations. >Trump repealed a bunch of environmental regulations. >Obama entered the U.S. into the Paris Agreement >Trump withdrew the U.S. from the Paris Agreement. >Obama invested in renewable energy. >Trump fought renewable energy. <Foreign policy >Obama maintained the INF arms control treaty >Trump pulled out of the INF arms control treaty >Obama de-escalated tensions with Iran, most notably with the 2015 Iran nuclear deal >Trump escalated tensions with Iran, scrapping the 2015 Iran nuclear deal and bringing his country to the brink of war with Iran at least a couple of times >Obama began the Cuban thaw, i.e. warming of relations between the U.S. and Cuba. >Trump partially undid the Cuban thaw. <LGBT rights >Obama enacted some LGBT rights legislation. >Obama repealed some LGBT rights legislation. <Immigration >Obama issued no travel ban on immigrants from Muslim countries. >Trump issued a travel ban on immigrants from certain Muslim countries. >Obama deported more people than Trump, so Trump is arguably better in this area. <Race relations >No major white nationalist rallies under Obama. >Biggest white nationalist rally in decades under Trump. >Hate crimes decreased under Obama. >Hate crimes increased under Trump. I'm not trying to say that Obama's policies were necessarily good, but rather that it is misleading to say that policies are going to be more or less the same no matter who is in charge. So what do you think?

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The eternal darkest reaction.

The left is still comprised of shitlibs and grifters, the right has more power than ever, the neoliberals have more power than ever. People are abandoning leftism as a whole, websites are filled with anti communist grifters that even zoomers fall into. What the fuck is the point of being a communist? There is no escape from this hellworld. Biden will somehow ease in the evictions after covid vaccinations from the US come through, we're forced to pay top dollar to get vaccinated and even the fucking Chinese have to bend the knee to some drolling retard because they took to long on their Sinovacc.

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GDP in a socialist economy

How useful is GDP in measuring a socialist economy's output? Not talking about >China here but more advanced socialism. Are the Net Material Product (NMP) and the Material Product System (MPS) superior, which exclude the service sector? There's little info on the NMP and MPS from what I can find. Image related

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Norway makes its first discovery of highly pathogenic bird flu >Norway has detected its first case of the highly pathogenic H5N8 strain of bird flu, the country’s Food Safety Authority (FSA)said in a statement on Friday. >Farm birds in southern Norway must keept indoors following the discovery of the infection in a wild short-billed goose, the FSA said. >The highly contagious and deadly form of avian influenza is spreading rapidly in Europe, putting the poultry industry on alert.

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What is the concept of “degeneracy” and how does it differ from “bourgeois decadence”?

I tried looking up degeneracy on wikipedia to have a nice little chuckle and the only non-scientific page on the subject I could find was the “Degenerate Art” exhibit in Nazi Germany. My question is, what is this idea “degeneracy”? What does it specifically refer to? Is it always sexual in concept or can it be anything the speaker despises that other people generally enjoy? Is it an inherently reactionary idea? Similarly, what is this idea of “bourgeois decadence”; is it indistinguishable from “degeneracy”? Are they each just nonsensical ideas that are more subjective than anything else?

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Is David King Right?

I recently came upon this well-researched quora answer by infamous ML user David King, where he looks into death tolls of communist countries and finds these statistics for the supposed “death toll of communism” “Lowest estimate: 7,930,000 Highest estimate: 12,350,000” Now, I’m no researcher and I am wary of Marxism-Leninism myself, so I was wondering if anyone on this board believes David King’s estimates to be accurate or not.

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understanding monarchism

What is the leftist explanation for when people still defend the idea of monarchism,both constitutional and absolute? And before you say(they are reactionary chauvinists and porkies op thats all you need to know),no its not,the nazies for instance were as reactionary as it gets,but hated monarchism anyway,also the nationalists in the united states would laugh at the idea of royals ruling america,does that make them not reactionaries?and if its only rich people that defend monarchies then how do you explain conservative working class members that defend it? What im trying to understand is why some people hate elections and love the idea of a king or queen being given all the power to rule a country and claiming a divine rule from god,even if that same king was ill/inbred/corrupt/coomer/or simply a shitty leader,the monarchists in white army for instance had no problem at all dying for a man that showed a hundred times how he doesn't care about poor people,hell,some french conservatives kept arguing for keeping the french monarchy and just replacing louis XVI with another until napoleon did just that. Like why?i genuinely don't get it,how would giving one guy all the influence for simply being born from royal blood would solve anything?is it just the feeling of fighting for a noble lord? Do they see them as a core part of the nation's culture? Do monarchists just have a fetish for royal courts and dresses?if so that would be stupid as the working class(serfs,farmers,factory workers)never enjoyed such commodities in monarchist countries ,Or is it just the effect of the cult of personality that comes up with the king's bloodline? Because even in post-romanov russia there were a lot of retards that wanted to make stalin a new tsar,but no one really took them seriously. If you are from a country that has a king like spain or japan or the united kingdom,and interacted with loyalists to the monarchy,do please explain to me like im five some arguments they have for living under a king.

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Time to criticize the "political compass"

If you're not aware, it's been almost 20 years since this website came online Trough six pages and sixty two questions, you answer to bizarre and out there questions. Do you think astrology is cool? Do you think schools should teach religious morals to children? Then an algorithm congregates two numbers following what you answered and then your individual stance on politics is represented by a red dot on a two axis graphic based on libertarian/authoritarian and left/right scales. This test basically assumes an individual political stance is a sum of opinions rather than a process of thoughts, it's idpol in its most elaborated state: your opinions make you scalable on this shitty graphic, your red dot identifies you to the other redditors as what you are, a capitalist shit stain. Since the subreddit about this and various memes exploded, we should put out there thoughtful critics and razor edged memes in order to counter what the new alt right is doing.

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Communist Party of the Philippines attacks Red Guards Austin

How will American Maoists recover?

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>If Adorno is left in peace, capitalism will never cease What did German students mean by this?

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Aviation and the End of History

>be me >Nicholas Baaderholt >24 years old >the year is 1997 >just sealed the biggest deal of my young career and the largest account in my firm this quarter. >guess all that time messing around with computers in college is paying off >these fossils couldn't even manage basic calculus >look down at my wrist, my new Patek Phillipe tells me it is 8.49am >The limousine pulls up and momentarily my driver opens the door. >a porter hands me my brown leather Tom Ford Briefcase. >inside the airport there is no wait for the queue I stand in. >barely flash my passport before I am ushered into to the executive waiting lounge >a waiter offers me refreshment and I decline >on second thoughts, Macallan Lalique 62, no ice. A small drop of water. >stand at the bar, look out through floor to ceiling glass window on the runway >there it is was, slim, sharp, nosecone pointed down >the fastest air transport money could buy. >concorde. >drink whiskey in one, light a cigarette. >eyes catch a woman, around my age, also smoking a cigarette in a wide brimmed black hat >our departure is called by another porter. >queue impatiently for ninety seconds before walking out onto the tarmac >at the top of steep metal staircase, I am greeted by another beauty, she welcomes me in English with an eastern European twang. >window seat >all around me are hundreds of thousands of dollars of Italian tailoring, the finest leather. More than a million in watches. Hair perfectly sprayed or waxed and parted. >in minutes we are taxiing onto the main runway >pass Boeing 747s and their car salesman passengers >smirk >pilot welcomes us aboard in a polish British accent >JFK to Heathrow >cabin crew strap themselves in >take off >at first everything is normal, we lift New Shrinks and vanishes into the distance out the window as we climb to cruising altitude. >captain tells us to hold on and not to be alarmed, we are about break the sound barrier >thrust like you've never imagined >only fighter pilots know this feeling >fighter pilots, and me, Nicholas Baaderholt. >it was there, cruising between New York and London at 1,300miles per hour >thats when I knew that the future was now. >London from New York in 3 hours, Singapore, Hong Kong only a few hours away. >Even over this short journey, those tech stocks would be paying out dividends. >with the internet, who knows what could be possible, we're moving volume our fathers and uncles could only dream of, all over the world. >this kind of connectivity, this kind of networking, we were on the cusp of a revolution >or at least, it seemed that way. >its so long ago now, strange how fast a decade passes. >2007 >95th floor, corner office, mahogany desk >three quarters empty bottle of Macallan Lalique 62 >they decommissioned Concorde 4 years ago >my wife, Dana, that is, that air hostess with the eastern European accent, she decommissioned me about 4 years ago too. >34 now, 3/4 through that bottle of whiskey >78 million dollars gone. >doubt i'll even see the kid. Not after the other night. >what the fuck was I thinking. >have I slept since then? >open the window and the documents on my desk are sucked out into the nothingness. >a whirlwind blows around the room. >fucking lehman brothers >one foot on the ledge. >fucking Dana whore >launch >for a second its kind of like being on Concorde again, the acceleration, only in reverse, the city of new york stretches out in a beautiful panorama, for one brief moment before gravity takes hold and I plunge forward into the abyss, >concrete and glass whip pass >the pavement below grows larger >fukuyama lied >this is my final thought

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How do we advocate for cybersocalism? Unfortunately it seems the market "socialists" have become dominant in the left once more and cybernetics have been forgotten. How do we dispel the market fundamentalist lies?

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basic income

Why are there still capitalists who oppose basic income in any form? There are many different flavours of it, but they oppose all of them, even the most right wing version as proposed by Milton Friedman called a negative income tax. Neoliberal porkies are so pigheaded that I really think they may hand pieces of the Imperial Core to Marxists by the middle of this century simply because working class people will be sick of being homeless and hungry as the biosphere burns. All of this will happen while the West continues to get richer while all of the new riches gained go to the top 1%. I have read many of the Marxist objections to something like a basic income, but it seems to me like one of the more realistic ways of alleviating suffering around the world.

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The Least Worst Consumer Choice

If you have to choose between a discount product made by sweatshop labor or a luxury product made by labor aristocratd, which is the less unethical choice? To buy the sweatshop product justifies the labor of the worker that made it but also justifies their corporate exploitation. On the other hand buying a luxury means even more of the profit goes to boog, even if the working conditions for these products are marginally better.

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Quick political sorting quiz Pic unrelated. I made a quiz designed to determine ideology from an ML perspective (covers many non-ML ideologies) in as few questions as possible. I want feedback on the quiz and possible features that could be included in it, or branches of political thought to add to it. <-- here is the source code that contains all of the quiz branches.

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Hey guys, interested in Maoism and Prachanda path. Mao-Pill me.

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This Book Sucks

You often see this shilled in the leftist college student blogosphere (the types who also shill Mark Fisher nonstop) and I confess I found it disappointing. It's marketed as a totes materialistic dialectical Marxist take on sex work but it has serious radlib undertones. Probably the best example is the part where the authors argue that sex workers have boundaries and don't lose their autonomy or ability to consent or whatever when selling sex, it goes on and on about these boundaries and how the Good Customers respect them and when reading this section one wonders if they're also vindicating work in general as "free" abd uncoerced. Other than correctly identifying the "high-class escort" ideal among liberal feminists as a petit-bourgeois phenomenon, the book has little that's Marxist about it and doesn't seem to aspire to more than suggesting reforms. I probably should have seen it coming seeing as it literally describes its political program as a "fight for rights" on the cover but oh well. >>1157204 is right and the fact that the authors of pic related would disagree is telling.

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Simon Sebag-Montefiore

So, what's this guy's deal? Is he a good historian? Can't find anything useful about him anywhere, even the wikipedia article is short and shitty. And there are no good reviews of his work, only guardian, NYT and the likes ... anyone have any more info on this guy?

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"Socialist States"

There is no such thing. Socialism is, by definition, classless, and so it is also stateless: >But the whole program, for all its democratic clang, is tainted through and through by the Lassallean sect's servile belief in the state, or, what is no better, by a democratic belief in miracles; or rather it is a compromise between these two kinds of belief in miracles, both equally remote from socialism. And yes, socialism is classless since it is the lower phase of communism which is classless. Any differentiation between capitalist and "socialist" states is idealism, the latter are state capitalist and always devolve into class collaborationism.

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Employee Productivity Analytics and Workplace Surveillance

I do believe that this technology has existed for a very long time.

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What is the defintion of fascism/ nazism?

How do we define fascism / nazism? What is the difference between them? Is the Dimitrov definition still relevant? I think we should have a coherent definition of what fascism is. And what we definitely should not do is using the term "fascism" in its vulgar sense. Not every reactionary is a fascist. It causes confusion. For example, soviet press used to call Pilsudski a fascist. Which wasn't true, but even these days many people still call him a fascist. Calling Trump a fascist was a big succes of woke neolib propaganda because they managed to convince many leftists to "vote against fascism". there is also the question to which extent are fascism and socialism related ideologies. Because there is a grain of truth to that (but not in the sense muh horseshoe retards think). another question is to what extent are third positionists / nazbols / strasserites etc. socialists.

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>What drove Mao into implementing barbaric and backwards policies on killing landlords? >Why are landlords considered "enemies"? >Can this be implemented in the west? >What's the difference between MZT, MLM, and Maoism? Sauce:

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How do Maoists defend the great leap forward?


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Listen Vaushite Part 2: Cultivated Personalities and Cults of Personality

Postmodern society has given birth to the myth of the exceptional individual. Every man is an island and society is shaped at the whims of and by sheer will-power of certain influencers, the class of indispensable ”men of action” that Ayn Rand looked up to. With the veneration of individuals come also the fittingly-named ”cults of personality”. This is not to imply that personality-cults are a new phenomena. They are as old as hierarchal human society as a whole. Strong political movements have been held together by firmly established personality cults, like those around Stalin and Mao. Sometimes entire societies have been centered around deified individuals, suchs as China, Japan and Egypt. Noone would claim that personality-cults are without political utility and always necessarily play a regressive and detrimental role. Personality-cults have one really big draw-back, that makes them really fragile as movements, and this is exactly the fact that they're centered around key personalities, without whom the movement does not have cohesion. When the leader passes away, the group splits; should the leader become corrupted, the movement becomes passive and loses all vigour. Celebrity-based parties within the US has a tendency to fail and almost never outlast the persons it is centered around. The utter despair and aimlessness of the resurgent left in the US after Bernie Sanders dropped out of political relevance is a good indicator of this. The same can be said of other left-wing movements, from the far-left revolutionary Shining Path to the Populist reformers of the Huey Long movement. Personalities are also infinitely more easy for bourgeois powers to corrupt or get rid of. Instead of having a many-headed hydra in the form of a mass-movement based on council politics, we have long-necked giraffe-looking movements with huge weak-spots in the more personality based ones. Individuals have relationships, careers and reputations to maintain. Secrets to keep. Power to gain. The same cannot be said of a mass movement. What is perhaps a little more new about cults of personality in the modern capitalist context, is cults of personality *as consumer goods*. The modern world is one of consumerism and customization. Everything can be fitted to the individual in the marketplace. So too, can it in the marketplace of ideas. Whereas personality-cults once were largely collectivist projects centered around a Heruclean demi-God figure, the subject of the cult is not longer the face of it, but rather the consumer of it. Thought-leaders are not figures we turn to in order to learn something new, or because we want anything in particular to be done. Thought-leaders are there to validate us in the things we already believe. We pay them with our love and adoration (and often money) and it turn, we get to cultivate an identity based on this relationship. They tell us that we were already right all along, and that the individual does not have to change or do anything real with their lives, because they are already as they were supposed to be all along. When this becomes applied to politics, it becomes especially malicious. Why organize in practical terms and creat real democratic communities at the municipal level, when we can tune in to Bernie and donate 26 dollars? Why read litterature and philosophy yourself, investigate your own sources, when you can just follow people on Twitter who will tell you who else to follow on Twitter? Why become active politically ourselves, when we can tune into late-night streams with sweaty bearded streamers that will tell you how revolutionary you are for listening to them ”change the conversation” and ”fight the culture war”? Throw them a few bucks and they will validate you personally by reading our your comment on stream! Suddenly, as a result of the modern late-capitalist cult of personality, being a revolutionary means consuming a product. It means liking the right things, calling out the right comments, retweeting the right tweets. Collective actions, and political engangement, beyond towing the party-line and joining the already-established structures of hierarchy has been given an incredibly small role in all of this. It is in this light we must understand why both in terms of the democratic party, we can *never* ”change it from within” based on certain popular progressive personalities. History shows it is not possible. Long, McGovern, Nader, Gravel, Kucinich and Sanders all tried, but failed. The private bourgeois institution that is the Democratic party either rigged the process against them (of which there is credible exit-poll data), joined sides with the republicans against them or downright had them assassinated. Shortly after, the movement around these figures disintegrated. One can venture to guess that this internal pressure in the democratic party is why candidates like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will denounce neoliberalism and call it out at many junctures, while still voting for their agenda and failing to endore her fellow justice democrats over other establishment figures. The personality-cult of AOC fails to notice, because they product they are consuming is the call-out and the veneer of radicalism, not action in of itself. This is the most dangerous part about placing all bets on top-down electoralism alone; that electoralism is there to pre-empt our movements, the political self-organization of the people, and replace it with something that comes from up-high rather than from down below. Why would the leftist create dual-power against the state and undermine the basket in which they have placed all their eggs? A leftist movement must be able to stand on it's own. It can't be centered around validation gangs, good feelings and people who can be taken out of the game. Electoralism and reformism is fine, but it must be there to get the hands of the state off of the local people's assemblies, rather than to function in place of them. America, for all of it's faults, have municipal institutions that are immenitly democratic or at least very open, fluid and changeble. If we're to have any change of success at all, we must a leftists create real political communities that will survive the figures we revere, not wither away with them. This author's bet is that the Green Party, as a reformist worker's party, is the only one where entryism is currently possible. If we caucus within it, it is immently possible to reform it into the kind of socialist party that we need for the 21st century, something which it already has characterists off. If that is not to your liking, then perhaps smaller local parties can do it for you for now. Anything to revive the life of the political city, which will be central to the reinvigoration of the leftist movement in the US and indeed of of the world as of now. Beware those who try to sell you a personality; the movement, if true and viable, is faceless.

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rich communists

Is it possible for a rich person to be a communist? How much money is too much money to be welcome in the revolution?

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Friedrich Engels' 200th Birthday

What, no thread? Happy birthday to Big Fred. One of the greatest teachers of the working class in history and a class traitor of the finest sort. Do yourself a favour and read his work if you haven't.

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I want to get into reading hegel, where do i start? What books would you recommend, by him or other people?

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thoughts on nikolai yezhov?

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Hey bros. I wanna take the REDpill, or at least get a taste. I'm extremely jaded with only hearing about leftist thought second-hand from people who can't do anything but speak in moralistic terms. It's dishonest and not least annoying. I don't read theory nor think brown people are intrinsically bad, so for the sake of simplifying things let's say I'm "liberal". What would you recommend I read, and what would you tell me to get me to understand the value of your system of choice? Winners get a (You)

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Trotsky did not do ONE thing wrong. All of his criticisms were on-point, and he was a hero that died for the international proleteriat. He also never thought the struggle between him and Stalin was a personal one, or that the problems of the USSR were Stalin's fault: >It is impossible by a mere individual . . . effort to escape from the web of the social lie -p. 438 from Trotsky's "Biography of Lenin, Volume I" in Edmund Wilson's 2003 translation

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Explanations for war unrelated to political economy

Basically, anyone ever look into those theories of why wars occur that focus on things other than political economy like in Marxism? I was reading this one theory that says war occurs for biological reasons and people go to war either to lower the population (carrying capacity) or over territory like with chimps I read another theory that says that the capacity for violence in humans that is usually expressed in warfare goes back to our evolution; this one is particularly compelling to me, basically humans evolved as predatory animals, naturally predatory animals need a capacity for violence and need an aggressive impulse and basically we’re violent and warlike because of instinctual misfires from when we evolved to hunt running game on the savannah Another one I saw is that war is actually a sexual release for society, this is the reason why almost everyone involved in military engagements is male and also why young men are so drawn to the idea of war, basically war is a psychologically male endeavor and experience is basically the explanation Another one I saw is in basic breakdown of tribal diplomacy, etc. Thoughts?

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take the asceticismpill

“To the stoicism forced by the difficult conditions of warfare should be added an austerity born of rigid self-control that prevents a single excess, a single slip, whatever the circumstances. The guerrilla soldier should be an ascetic.” “The revolutionary in a clandestine situation preparing for war should be a complete ascetic; this is also a test of one of the qualities that will later be the basis of their authority: discipline. If an individual disobeys the orders of his superiors and makes contact with women, develops friendships that are not permitted, etc., he should be separated immediately, not merely because of the potential danger in the contacts, but simply because of the violation of revolutionary discipline.”

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just went on strike at my McJob, porky is already begging me to come back. He's out of town and I'm the only one supposed to be there right now. What do?

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Is he based or cringe?

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What is the Marxist take on Bitcoin?

This shits a scam that has no future right?

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Thread for arguments for/against anarchy. Too much of anything is bad. I don't like authoritarianism, but anarchy is no different in outcome. I have a negative opinion of anarchism, but I'll admit most of my experiences with anarchist antifa types were not exactly ideal, since they all occured in my younger natsoc skinhead days.

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Socialism in the capitalist core

Historically, socialism has been most successful in the capitalist periphery. To my knowledge, socialism has never been successfully established either by revolution or by reform in the capitalist core. All revolutions have failed, and reform has only gotten as far as social democracy. The standard of living tends to be much higher and the politics much more stable than in the periphery, so there are fewer opportunities for socialists to make any significant inroads. In general, it appears that the task of abolishing capitalism and building socialism would much more difficult in core countries. If socialism were to somehow be established in core countries, I suspect it would look quite different from earlier socialist societies. Firstly, core countries are already industrialized — and have even developed into post-industrial societies — so things like industrialization would be much less of a priority. Secondly, a core country going socialist would likely weaken the global capitalist system than peripheral country of a similar population doing so. Most resistance to socialist movements has historically come from the core, so a core country going socialist would likely do a lot to weaken resistance to socialist movements. In particular, the United States going socialist could very well unravel the whole global capitalist system. Thirdly, core countries typically have more democratic institutions in addition to more civil rights and civil liberties than are typically seen in the periphery. Most socialist states have historically arisen from societies ruled by autocrats, and this autocratic heritage may have made those socialist states themselves more autocratic. I suspect that socialism in the core would be more anti-authoritarian in character than it would be in the periphery. The fact that Marxism-Leninism has generally been less popular in the core than anti-authoritarian leftist ideologies like democratic socialism and anarchism is further evidence of this. Do you think socialism in the capitalist core will be feasible any time soon? If so, what do you think it would look like? Would socialism in the core damage the capitalist system more than socialism in the periphery would?

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Red Neoliberals

MLs who defend the USSR or Dengists make arguments in their respective countries' defense that have nothing to do with Marxist analysis, most notably they make the claim that the USSR/China "lifted millions out of poverty". This is exactly the same as what neoliberals say in defense of capitalism, and to be truthful they are right: capitalism is an improvement in living conditions over feudalism. This does not make the USSR more socialist though, and neither do socdem programs like "healthcare" and "affordable housing".

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Genocidal Second Ethiopian Civil War possibly imminent.

Ok so first a history lesson. After the collapse of the Derg the reactionary (and in some cases literally Feudal-Remnant / Tribalistic) government implemented "federalism" in Ethiopia which in reality was more like an incredibly unstable confederation meant to appease all the different rebel groups and ethnic militias that overthrew the derg Each federal state of Ethiopia has its own army independent from Addis Ababa and its own "president" The first state to break off was Eritrea which caused a rwanda / Bosnia level genocide in the process all on its own. Now Tigray province is threatening to break away and several other provinces are threatening to also break away if the Federal Big Gubermint takes their tribal warlord rights away. But all these different tribal / Regional governments + The federal government which is majority amhara + Eritrea all claim lands off of each other. (Eritrea has taken advantage of Tigray de=facto declaring independence to invade for disputed land which ethiopia says it will now retaliate for) >TL;DR Unless Ethiopia can crush this secessionist state quickly enough this could literally result in a Bosnian war genocidal conflict and the collapse of the very concept of Ethiopia as a nation

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Leaderless movements

Many social movements in recent years across the world have lacked formalized leadership structures. Some examples include: -Arab Spring (2010-2012) -Occupy Wall Street (2011-2012) -Black Lives Matter (2013-present) -2018-2019 Haitian protests -Yellow Vests (2018-present) -2019-2020 Hong Kong Protests -2019-2020 Iraqi protests -2019 Ecuadorian protests -2019-2020 Chilean protests -2019-2020 Catalan protests -2019-2020 Lebanese protests Leaderless movements seem to have expanded significantly in popularity as a result of the emergence of social media making decentralized organization easier. Some advantages of leaderless movements include: -No central figure that can be picked off and cause the movement to collapse -Flexibility -More open And here are some disadvantages: -Anyone can join, even those that could make the movement look bad -Prone to disagreements and infighting -Social media communications can often be surveilled by authorities Leaderless movements, like many other movements, have varied widely in their successfulness. The Arab Spring was mostly a failure, with only one country (Tunisia) transitioning to democracy. The Occupy Wall Street protests didn't achieve much in the way of short-term concessions, but they managed to successfully change the political narrative and revive the left in many countries. The Chilean protests succeeded in getting reforms in public services and getting to vote on writing a new constitution, but have not succeeded in getting President Sebastián Piñera to resign. I don't have any numbers available to me to compare the success rates of hierarchical movements and leaderless movements. Nevertheless, it appears that leaderless movements are the future and could be the future of socialist movements a well. So what do you think?

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Red Dixie? is there any hope for the most cursed part of Burgerland?

Why tf is the South so bizarre? Why is everyone here obese and retarded? Anytime Burger-Spergs happen its usually from here (people praying outside a ballot office to defeat Biden, Fake working-class Truck kulaks, rabid racism). Is it a result of the South's historical inability to cope with losing the civil war to the North? Or a result of being less developed than the rest of the country? Sidenote: Thoughts on George Fitzhugh and what the fuck his problem was?

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What are some alternatives to the Proud Boys other than Antifa. Like one that has an actual structure to it and isn't just a loose collective of groups. And if there isn't one, how should one look and act like to be a good counter measure against them.

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Flu Shot

>Its your responcibility to the sick and old of society to get this shot >No, its not free

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whats your take on spengler

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News 11/27/20

Prominent Iranian scientist who allegedly ran state nuclear program ASSASSINATED in Tehran (PHOTO, VIDEO) Leading Iranian nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh-Mahavadi was fatally injured in an ambush on his car outside the capital Tehran on Friday, before dying from his injuries in hospital, Iran’s Defense Ministry has confirmed. Lawmakers throw pig guts, punches on Taiwan parliament floor “When you were in the opposition, you were against U.S. pork, now that you’re in power, you’ve become a supporter of U.S. pork,” said KMT legislator Lin Wei-chou, who led the group of lawmakers protesting the policy on Friday. They wore black T-shirts that read “oppose ractopamine-pork.” Mexico's president again declines to recognize Biden win Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador on Wednesday again declined to congratulate Joe Biden for winning the U.S. presidential election, making him stand out increasingly among world leaders who have withheld their recognition. New Delhi police ask to convert stadiums into prisons as Indian capital grapples with thousands-strong farmer protest Some 5,000 farmers were allowed to enter New Delhi on Friday for a peaceful protest under police escort. Tensions remained high, with clashes between demonstrators and police continuing elsewhere in India. Brazil's Bolsonaro says he will not take coronavirus vaccine Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro said on Thursday evening that he will not take a coronavirus vaccine, the latest in a series of statements he has made expressing skepticism toward coronavirus vaccination programs. Argentine Police Clashes With Fans During Maradona's Farewell His funeral honors, which began orderly and peacefully, ended "among rubber bullets and tear gas, knocked down fences, people wounded, and dozens of detainees," journalist Javier Alvarez reported. Greek civil servants strike for better Covid-19 protections Civil servants’ unions called the strike on a variety of demands, including the increase of coronavirus-related protective measures in workplaces and in schools, mass hirings in the public transport and health sectors, and salary increases for civil servants. Bolivia: Court Lifts Photojournalist Facundo Molares' Arrest His lawyer Marco Justiniano noted that irregularities were committed during the hearing process, including the expiration of the 150-day period of preventive detention requested by the Public Prosecutor's Office.He also mentioned that Molares' current health condition is affected by basic illnesses and a positive result for COVID-19. Russia to Close Down Barents Region's Biggest Air Polluter Tens of thousands of tons of sulfur dioxide and other hazardous gases have annually been emitted from the chimneys of Nornickel’s factory in the town named after the metal produced there. More than 3 billion people affected by water shortages, data shows Water shortages are now affecting more than 3 billion people around the world, as the amount of fresh water available for each person has plunged by a fifth over two decades, data has shown.

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Anyone else think shit like OnlyFans, ASMR, etc. are actually dystopic as fuck?

Not going to rant about sex work or women or anything, but I’ve been thinking, like, does this shit genuinely disturb anyone else or is it just me? Now, I’ve never sat through an ASMR, paid money for an e-thot, etc. but I have seen clips and know at least what the guys that are into it are thinking. Like, for me, the reason I can’t get through an ASMR is because it instantly makes all the hairs on my neck stand up, even did it before I was a communist. It’s just so...soulless, so empty. It’s like truly staring into the void, and it disturbs me down to my very core to think society is so severely alienated that this is an actual way people try getting a phantom touch of intimacy. This is on the scale of JOI from Blade Runner, except JOI could actually talk to people, interact with them; but this ASMR/ OnlyFans shit, you’re dealing with people who don’t even know you exist. Maybe it’s so disturbing to me just because of how it demonstrates the true misery of the Twenty-First Century condition; in the past for all their suffering and pain the proletariat still had each other, now they have nobody.

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so leftypol is officially anti-zionist and yet people defend Stalin who was pro Zionism? how do stalinoids cope?

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News 11/28/20

Rally against French bill outlawing sharing images of police dispersed with tear gas in Nantes The rally was held in the western French city on Friday evening, providing a preview of multiple similar events scheduled for the weekend. Demonstrators carried banners with such messages as “Violence is the last refuge of incompetence” and they chanted pro-liberty and anti-police slogans. Chile: Police Quell New Protests Demanding Piñera Step Down For their part, the demonstrators have been demanding that Parliament approve without conditions or restrictions a second withdrawal from the pension fund, which would allow millions of people to face the social and economic crisis in which the country finds itself, deepened by the COVID-19 pandemic. Attack on protest camp leaves six dead, dozens wounded in Iraq's south Six people have died and dozens of others were wounded in southern Iraq on Friday after a protest camp was attacked by supporters of the influential Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Philippines: On the murder of NDFP consultants Eugenia Magpantay and Agaton Topacio The Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) condemns in the strongest terms the Philippine National Police (PNP) for the cold-blooded murder of National Democratic Front of the Philippines (NDFP) peace consultants Eugenia Magpantay and Agaton Topacio last Wednesday in Angono, Rizal. China closing in on declaring initial victory in beating poverty despite turbulent 2020, but concerns remain Beijing has not gone as far as to announce a complete eradication of poverty, but any problems now are attributed to specific villages or households after confirming the final 832 counties out of 3,000 across the country designated in 2012 had been removed from the category. KKE: Urgent Problems in Public Hospitals Can't Be Swept Under the Carpet "Now, before it is too late, the government had to requisition private clinics and their staff without conditions and provisos and place critical facilities, such as retirement homes that continue to be hotbeds for transmitting the virus, under state control," KKE concluded. Brazil elects mayors, with eyes on presidential race Races to watch include the northeastern city of Recife -- scene of a literal family feud on the left between cousins Joao Campos of the center-left Brazilian Socialist Party (PSB) and Marilia Arraes of the PT -- and the southern city of Porto Alegre. There, another rising left-wing star, Manuela D'Avila of the Communist Party of Brazil, faces centrist candidate Sebastiao Melo, in a city rocked by violent protests last week after two white security guards killed a black customer at a supermarket. Azerbaijani soldiers desecrate Armenian graves in newly handed over area: video In the video, the Azerbaijani soldiers can be seen walking up to an Armenian gravesite and stepping on the memorial flowers before they repeatedly kick a grave until it is destroyed. Ethiopia says its military now controls the Tigray capital Ethiopia’s military has gained “full control” of the capital of the defiant Tigray region, the army announced Saturday, after the Tigray government reported that the city of a half-million people was being “heavily bombarded” in the final push to arrest the region’s leaders. Canada: Quebec court reduces mosque shooter's sentence The man who shot and killed six worshippers at a Quebec city mosque three years ago has received a reduction in his sentence and will be eligible for parole in 25 years, after Quebec's Court of Appeals said that the shooter had received a "cruel and unusual punishment". TC Energy says Keystone XL pipeline fits Biden agenda The Calgary, Alberta-based company said it is forging ahead with construction of the pipeline designed to transport up to 830,000 barrels of oil per day from Alberta to Nebraska despite Biden’s vow during his election campaign to rip up the presidential permit that allows it to move oil across the border. SNP under fire over corporate sponsor hosts at party conference Alongside the party business, a number of high-profile corporate sponsors will host fringe meetings, including Coca-Cola, the Rail Delivery Group and the City of London Corporation.

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Why do people (leftists tbh) insist on talking about the working class like they’re a monolith?

By that I mean, a lot of leftists, especially the stupidpol variety, basically speak of the workers as though they all think exactly the same, behave exactly the same, have the same culture, the same interests, and the same perspective on the world. It’s basically “The workers do X or Y or the workers agree with X or Y”. Why is there no nuance, no consideration that the working class composers of the better portion of seven billion people and aren’t all exactly the fucking same?

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normie hate thread

Post things that normies say that piss you off. >Chinese spyware bad. American spyware good.

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Some of you claim to be "organizing" whenever your LARP is called out, but it's usually left vague what exactly that entails. Are any of you actually doing something concrete or are you just LARPing IRL and calling it "organizing"? I have a hunch all this activism you love to brag about is amounting to weirding out normies with Stalin/Mao cult behavior.

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One of the greatest heroes of the working class turns 200 today! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

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Why did communists/anarchists keep doing retarded shit?

Like, it seems like almost every communist leader sans Lenin made absolutely fucktarded mistakes; shit like the CNT-FAI fighting their own allies, Stalin’s bizarre foreign policy and killing the Old Bolsheviks for nothing, Mao’s backyard pig iron fiasco and the Sino-Soviet Split, Hoxha’s bunkers, 2nd International retardedly supporting WWI, 90% of what the New Left did. Why does retardation keep occurring?

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So... What up?

Are you guys alright? Anything new happening? Been seeing a lot anon on /pol/ "claiming" to be from /leftypol/ (pretty sure they're just biden shills) trying to take it back or something? Either way just figured I drop in and see how everybody's doing, haven't popped by in a minute. You're friendly neighborhood ancap.

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Why did anti-revisionism failed?

Why did he failed? Ok, Stalin was a pioneer, I give him some slack, especially that he tried to push the party away from state power and wanted contested elections. But why did this brainlet failed? He had thirty years in advance, and all he did is wrote a bunch of books calling everyone revisionist. No reform of state institutions, nothing. How it happened that Albania failed so hard? How that the most anti-revisionist country on earth, immediately fell to rabid revisionism the moment Hoxha died?! Huh?

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The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy Article on Marx It's bad. It basically only pays attention to Cohen's interpretations and declares that Marx is wrong on economics with basically no references. The SEP is the number-one resource students and laymen are directed to so it's important that Marx is represented well on there; how likely do you think it is that something can or will be done about this?

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How loang will this puppet last without trump? I don't think biden will give too much shit about SA.

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Lenin Knew Shit Would Go South

Everyone knows Lenin's testament so I will offer new evidence. From the Eleventh Congress: >If we take Moscow with its 4,700 Communists in responsible positions, and if we take that huge bureaucratic machine, that gigantic heap, we must ask: who is directing whom? I doubt very much whether it can truthfully be said that the Communists are directing that heap. To tell the truth they are not directing, they are being directed. Lenin knew the USSR would become a bureaucratic police state in which the proles had no power and were actively oppressed by an elite. Trotsky is vindicated.

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"The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"

There's this expression, from a 1970 song, that, if there were to be a period of major social upheavals and change, it "will not be televised". That is, you won't see much of it in the mainstream media. Is this true? This idea really struck me today with after I saw the India general strike thread and noticed that few mainstream media outlets were covering it.

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Liberal Meets World

It happened to me again. I stumbled across a research article that "discovers" something that should be obvious and presents it as ground breaking. The last time it was psychology researchers finding out that if kids spend an extra hour sleeping in the morning their learning outcomes improve throughout the day. Who would've fucking thought that humans would not perform at their full potential when subjected to the factory clock. What prompted this thread was: <A systematic review of published research found that financial payments from the drug industry to U.S. physicians was associated with increased prescribing of the paying drug company's drug. Did we really need a study to tell us that? But the problem is far more insidious than naive or opportunistic researchers making an easy buck on pointless science. The problem is with framing problems of capitalism as "scientific problems" is that then they appear "natural" to us, they appear as if they were not caused by our activity, but by something else, much like hurricanes or earthquakes. We then do not question WHY the situation is the way it is, we question WHAT the situation is from an angle that cannot provide a solution -- the solution to the problem of doctor's taking bribes is not >that the medical community change its historical opposition to reform and call for an end to such payments. as the article says, but to eliminate the profit motive altogether. These "scientific" articles won't say that though, and that is why they're dangerous. They are at best misinformation and at worst targeted brainwashing. List more examples of liberals "discovering hot water".

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lenin was right about martov

he was too soft ... on the bolsheviks!

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How to deal with lumpen/criminals when /org/anizing?

im from buenos aires and my life's goal is to unify the capital.I wont join any "lefitst" parties,since in this country they're middle class snobs,I will side with syncates and trade unions. my anime-tier plan is to bikepack/volunteer/live semi-homeless all across the slums,shanty towns,ghettos and goverment housing,making friends,helping people,etc but how do i deal with drug catels or bands of thieves?the working class is always that suffers the most for common crime.

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German Communists + Movement During WW2

So the KPD in the Weimar years had a pretty high popularity and vote share throughout the 20s and 30s (ranging from 10-20%). What happened to the German Communist movement? They can't all have been sent to camps? Ik about the NKFD that was organized by the Soviets but beyond that can someone give me a history of the German Communists during WW2.

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On Engels

Engels was porky as fuck, and yet he is celebrated as a great socialist (same could also be said of Robert Owen and Kropotkin, but they are more controversial figures so I'm sticking with Engels). This would be fine if it didn't contradict the attitude Marxists, especially on here, seem to have regarding porkies, i.e. that they are irredeemable and must be gulaged/guillotined. What's more is Engels' existence seems to fly in the face of the Marxist claim that individuals cannot escape their material position's ideology no matter their personal virtues.

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News 11/21/20

Colombians Embark on a Fresh National Strike Against Ivan Duque Under the banner of “For Life, Peace, Democracy and Negotiation of an Emergency Plan”, workers, peasants, teachers, students, doctors, women, Indigenous and Afro-descendant communities as well as the members of the Common Alternative Revolutionary Force (FARC) party and other left-wing political parties took to the streets across the country to demand greater attention from the national government towards the several issues faced by its citizens. Rioters storm Brazilian supermarket & set FIRES after security guards allegedly kill black man Hundreds of protesters attacked a supermarket in Sao Paulo, Brazil, amid nationwide outrage over the alleged killing of a black man by two security guards at another of the chain’s outlets. EU trained Algeria and Morocco police in online disinformation tactics EU trainers also taught Algerian police officers to create fake online identities, which have been linked to the spread of disinformation and government propaganda in the country, as part of a course on open source intelligence (OSINT) methods delivered at the height of popular protests last year. Burkina Faso to vote amid escalating violence Burkina Faso will vote in presidential and legislative elections on Sunday, amid escalating extremist violence that’s killed more than 2,000 people this year and displaced some one million people from their homes. Egypt: Female political prisoners beaten during inspection mission According to We Record, an online human rights platform, a security force at the Qanatir prison in Qalyubia governorate attacked a number of female prisoners, one of whom was dragged on the floor and wounded, during an inspection mission by a newly appointed official. Households could face coronavirus charge on their energy bills The energy regulator has proposed a £21 increase to the maximum households can be charged on their bills to remove pressure on energy companies that are facing high levels of unpaid bills as households struggle to keep up during the pandemic. Increased use of food banks by middle-income families in UK as food poverty surges These families are defined as the “new hungry” and constitute a growing layer of those who had previously had decent incomes and led a comfortable lifestyle. Now they are increasingly having to claim welfare benefits and use food banks to be able to feed themselves and their families. Wave of protests: Antifa marches against ‘Nazi’ Covid sceptics in Berlin, amid demos decrying pandemic restrictions Hundreds of Antifa members marched through the German capital on Friday night, holding banners denouncing “Corona deniers and Nazi pigs” as they chanted slogans. The column of left-wing protesters was closely supervised by police, and no violence was reported during the event. Turkey’s President Erdogan, Saudi king discuss improving ties Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan discussed ways of enhancing ties with King Salman of Saudi Arabia in a rare phone call since the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.The phone call came on the eve of the G20 leaders’ summit hosted by Riyadh on Saturday and Sunday. Mexico Decriminalizes the Consumption of Cannabis The Federal Law for the Regularization of Cannabis decriminalizes consumption for people 18 years of age and up to 28 grams. Also, if that amount is surpassed by up to 200 grams, there would be an administrative sanction and a fine of 11.000 Mexican pesos

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Marx was wrong because he did not and could not predict the rise of information systems. Material reality is no longer reality, people are surrounded by copies of copies with no original. The proleteriat is too infatuated with consumerism to ever gain class consciousness; why focus on your position in relation to the means of production when you can just consume products that give you an endless variety of identities to focus your personality around of?

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>Amazon hired the actual fucking pinkertons

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Thirworldism, unequal echange and dependency theory are wrong

Outside of the classical countries, a growing portion of the peasantry - and even hunter-gatherers - have been progressively driven out of production. Their workforce has been displaced by the use of machinery. It has thus passed into the condition of latent working-class overpopulation. Its biological production has come to be governed accordingly. Their birth rate has increased, in order to enable social survival over the weakened conditions of individual survival. Capital has thus accelerated the multiplication of the latent overpopulation to two points. The international separation between the working population that remains inactive and that which is being massively converted into surpluses is not accidental. It necessarily arises from the realization of the world content of capital accumulation in the form of mutually independent national accumulation processes. But on it the apologetics of capitalism is mounted to reverse the determination. It does so by presenting capital accumulation as if it were a national process in its essence, and not in its mere form. Thus, the expansion of the overpopulation of workers to characterize a country –product of the full development of the global essence of accumulation– is presented inverted as if it were a consequence of the national insufficiency of that development. That is, as if it were the result of the "underdevelopment" of capitalism in those countries.

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Police and Revolution

Police are, as far as I can tell, technically proles; they work for a wage and do not own means of production. Why is it that they are characterized as anti-revolutionary? Why is it not the case that they will turn on the bourgeoisie like the rest of the proleteriat? It is noteworthy that the military has historically done so, so I'm not sure why that isn't the case for the police.

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GOODBYE DIEGO Diego Maradona, the hand of god has died, 60 years old.

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Why so much hatred towards the English?

I honestly don't understand. I get that they had a massive empire, but I don't see the Scottish / Welsh get nearly half as much scorn as the English uniquely do. Being an "Anglo Saxon" doesn't automatically mean you can't be left wing case in point:

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Kruschev and Brezhnev by far best of the best Communist leaders

Every single Communist leader has a dark side or weren't capable enough to do more but Kruschev and Brezhnev there is nothing bad to say about them and thanks to them USSR went so far from such a crippled nation it used to be after so many disasters through and Stalin's fanaticism, under them USSR became more urbanized and industrialized, the economy got stronger, the living standards were some of the best, USSR dominated space race and been a great pioneer in so many types of researches, put all imperialists on their knees with one test the Tsar bomb and freed so many nations to get rid of imperialists through their big help with military training and hardware so after all how aren't they appreciated and talked more or used as examples when they deserve that the most?

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Is depression a real thing or is it just a rationalization of how awful life under capitalism is?

Like, it seems the institutionalization of this idea called depression is really just a way to internalize the horror a person feels at the reality of their alienation under capitalism and its total disregard for human life. Isn’t depression a rational state of mind for the human being living within capitalism? Why the fuck wouldn’t you be depressed? Know what they called it in the 1800s? Ennui. Every time I’ve ever spoken about it or someone told me they went to therapy they always said they wound up accepting the problems in life are real but you just...shouldn’t feel so bad about them? What? Doesn’t it make sense for the human being to despair when they are treated not as a person but as an object? Is not depression the natural response of the human spirit to wage slavery or lumpenization?

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Manual labour is good for you and your character. There is too much theory and too little strengthening of yourselves as a worker. I see countless examples of supposed Communists who have so obviously never done a single day of manual work in their lives, and it disappoints me greatly. To bear a hammer and the sickle over your heart without ever toiling with either in hand is a gross irony, which plays well into opposing ideologies and the american elites who would turn you into scarecrows of embarassment! Consider paid or volunteer manual labour jobs. They will pay little; you will not like the experience. However, it will teach you the importance of thinking outside yourself, to be humble, to think beyond the short term as well as build the strength you may one day need to defend yourselves and your values against those who today relentlessly advocate for your death. Only from here you will understand the struggle. That is all.

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Stop Being Lassalleans

State control has nothing to do with Marx; the state is only to be used during the transitory phase, and not socialism, for the sole purpose of wielding power against the bourgeoisie. You are feeding into anarchist strawmans of Marx going back to Bakunin, that Stalin embodied because he was a revisionist that turned "socialism" into a synonym for social democracy. Read Critique of the Gotha Program and On the Jewish Question.

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Occupy wall street critique

started a thread a while back asking for criticisms on the CHAZ and now im wondering what leftypols analysis of the occupy movement was and what are some of its successes and failures and what can we do into the future to make sure similar projects into the future are more successful

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you, fucking loving science: astrology isn't real soviet scientists:

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chapofugee thread

in this thread we bant about podcast forum

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"Leftists are pedophile apologists"

New here, so don't know if this is a worn out topic, but where does this reactoid idea of leftists being pedophile apologists come from? Is it just pure projection? An antisemitic trope? It's absolutely bonkers considering /pol/tards spam CP in every forum they raid, are the ones who constantly have threads claiming it's natural for grown men to be attracted to underage girls, and over-whelmingly right-leaning looksmax/incel forums like pic related regularly host jailbait threads.

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How the Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World lets have a discussion on this schizo tier video keep these type of posts in the China general, anchored

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Voldemort represents Communism, ever since the 2016 US Elections, liberals have been eager to compare to Trump to all sorts of things: Adolf Hitler, President Reagan, and even Lord Voldemort. I am here to tell /leftypol/ that these comparisons are mistaken, as I will explain throughout the rest of this post. Voldemort's life and ideology actually have more in common with Lenin, Stalin, and that of the Soviet Union. Here is my reasoning: 1) At the beginning of Tom Riddle's journey into the Wizarding world, he is a very poor orphan with extreme talents in magic that were very unusual, far beyond the likes of mere charlatans like Hitler and Reagan. He considers death a "human weakness", as in, a contradiction innate to all men that he wished to overcome after suffering the death of his mother. He recognizes this contradiction, but does not yet recognize how to overcome it. His talented side mirrors Stalin's talents in religious knowledge as a young boy. His struggle mirrors Lenin and the death of his brother 2) In Tom Riddle's sixth year, he questioned Professor Horus Slughorn about a key to immortality, the Horcrux. this is considered forbidden, but known, knowledge by "high-ranking" individuals who were considered "loyal" to the traditions of the Wizarding world. Knowledge that would resolve the problems caused by death. Might I suggest this is most similar to the knowledge of Communism? Communism seeks to resolve the effects of exploitation by sublating them under a new system, one that requires class struggle and blood sacrifice. The horror on Professor Slughorn's face when Tom Riddle poses the question could basically be put in the context of a student asking a question about Communism to Slughorn's muggle, liberal counterpart. 3) After Tom Riddle discovers the Horcrux (Communism) he develops a new admiration for magic, putting it on a higher pedestal than he could've possibly imagined before. Historical necessity was calling to him. That is, the historical necessity of magic. The liberal interpretation of Harry Potter is that the muggles are, to put it bluntly, ethnics. But this couldn't be further from the truth. The muggles are in a privilidged caste of society that oppresses Witches and Wizards, forcing them into hiding and doing everything in their power to stop the development and integration of magic into the world. Tom Riddle comes to a fateful conclusion: in order for immortality to blossom, Witches and Wizards must overthrow the muggles and become the ruling class in society, forming a Dictatorship of the Witches and Wizards where magic can be integrated into it. The dynamic between muggles and wizards mirrors that of the bourgoisie and the proletariat. 4) Tom Riddle traveled abroad and experimented on the Dark Arts for 10 years. pushed magic to farther boundaries than they ever have been pushed. He developed his ideology and theory in order for the great revolution that would push the world into the next era of civilization. Much like Marx and Lenin during their banishment. "I have experimented; I have pushed the boundaries of magic further, perhaps, than they have ever been pushed —" 5) Voldemort started the First Wizarding War by taking advantage of one of the wizarding world's greatest weaknesses: the beings and creatures that they had persecuted. Giants and werewolves. The oppressed and outcast. This is not unlike how the Bolsheviks used the Jews in Russian society to their advantage: the Jews had been subject to open harassment in the Russian empire for decades, peaking during the recession caused by WW1. Lenin knew how to speak to the oppressed and the forgotten. Those that wanted a better society for themselves and for everybody. 6) In spite of the Death Eater party's threat to the established order of the Wizarding world: that of ethnic segregation and chattel slavery, the status quo was soon restored by the Order of the Phoenix and Dumbledore's army. The threat of Horcruxes and the violent outburts of the oppressed in wizarding society were soon considered to be extinguished and all but forgotten. Much like the Soviet Union and its ideology of Communism, which Capitalism and its ideologues believed defeated for the most part. Unless another wizard as powerful and ambitious as Voldemort should choose to discover it again...

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Class Consciousness

This is a total fiction and has never once happened. Name a single instance of class consciousness forming. The working class is forever divided along idpol lines. anchored for bad faith baiting

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Amazon Is the Communist Planned Economy We Need

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Why does leftypol dislike anti-depressant and distrust the science behind them? I often see posts claiming them just being sold for profit and that the "real cause" of MDD should be treated instead. However the posters themselves often don't define the "real cause" or the impact of fixing it. Moreover people seem to gloss over the fact that hospitalized MDD patients coming from abusive families often have a difficult recovery even outside "the cause" of their depression. Therefore treating the "cause" is ill-defined at best and I'v yet too sen alternative to anti-depressants

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Marxism Is Basically Anarchism

Reminder that anarchists and Marxists use different definitions of the state and that the Marxist definition of instrumental class rule does not necessarily entail the anarchist Weberian defenition of an entity with a monopoly of violence over a given territory. So any good Marxist (i.e. the ones who can read Gotha properly, so not MLs) is basically an anarchist. >B-but the first international and the anarchist revolts in the USSR Bakunin strawmanned Marx and Lenin to a lesser degree strawmanned the ancoms, if they read each other carefully they would see they have no real differences materially.

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>Abuses and degrades workers in his posh restaurant >Gets caught doing it >Gets dragged by the media >Ends up turning in into his fucking brand Only in Late Stage Capitalism

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The Climate Refugee Question

Let's not pretend that climate change won't cause massive geopolitical changes and displace billions of people. This is going to be the major issue of the 21st century and the one that a global scale communist movement has to work with. The bourgeoisie are now pretty clearly signaling that they side against the masses and for some kind of Malthusian population cull. This will heighten the conflict between the western bourgeoisie and the third world proletariat and create the conditions for a global revolutionary wave. So let's talk about what can be done about this change. How can the international proletariat organize our current technology? How can society prepare for and adapt to the massive changes coming? How do we minimize the human costs? What are possibly unforseen problems that will arise? How do we effectively combat bourgeois attempts to use the situation against the global proletariat? These and more are questions we will need to answer in this century, so discuss possible solutions and post relevant resources for how to deal with climate change and its effects. This is going to be a defining feature of 21st century communism, and we need to discuss it more.

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Blair edition

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Why did Keynesianism fail in America and get replaced by neoliberalism?

I thought Keynesianism was based

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Thread about Karl Marx being BASED

There is a quote of Marx which I regard to be one of the best quotes ever uttered by an intellectual and it honestly changed my life: >By counting the most meagre form of life (existence) as the standard, indeed, as the general standard – general because it is applicable to the mass of men. He turns the worker into an insensible being lacking all needs, just as he changes his activity into a pure abstraction from all activity. To him, therefore, every luxury of the worker seems to be reprehensible, and everything that goes beyond the most abstract need – be it in the realm of passive enjoyment, or a manifestation of activity – seems to him a luxury. Political economy, this science of wealth, is therefore simultaneously the science of renunciation, of want, of saving and it actually reaches the point where it spares man the need of either fresh air or physical exercise. This science of marvellous industry is simultaneously the science of asceticism, and its true ideal is the ascetic but extortionate miser and the ascetic but productive slave. Its moral ideal is the worker who takes part of his wages to the savings-bank, and it has even found ready-made a servile art which embodies this pet idea: it has been presented, bathed in sentimentality, on the stage. Thus political economy – despite its worldly and voluptuous appearance – is a true moral science, the most moral of all the sciences. Self-renunciation, the renunciation of life and of all human needs, is its principal thesis. The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house; the less you think, love, theorise, sing, paint, fence, etc., the more you save – the greater becomes your treasure which neither moths nor rust will devour – your capital. The less you are, the less you express your own life, the more you have, i.e., the greater is your alienated life, the greater is the store of your estranged being. Everything ||XVI| which the political economist takes from you in life and in humanity, he replaces for you in money and in wealth; and all the things which you cannot do, your money can do. It can eat and, drink, go to the dance hall and the theatre; it can travel, it can appropriate art, learning, the treasures of the past, political power – all this it can appropriate for you – it can buy all this: it is true endowment. Yet being all this, it wants to do nothing but create itself, buy itself; for everything else is after all its servant, and when I have the master I have the servant and do not need his servant. All passions and all activity must therefore be submerged in avarice. The worker may only have enough for him to want to live, and may only want to live in order to have that. Discuss it or post other quotes of Marx and Engels that are timeless red pills.

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Is liberalism an inherently sociopathic ideology; or is it just modern liberals?

Honestly whenever I see the DNC scum go on stage to do their monkey dance I’m awed at the fact that you have these utterly depraved monsters, responsible for thousands if not millions of deaths, and then unlike a Hitler or Mussolini they’re just completely dispassionate about it. Like, you’ve got Hitler writing an entire book ranting and raving about his desire to eradicate the jews and communists, and then you’ve got Obama offhandedly and dispassionately mentioning in his own book how he knowingly offed civilians to prove he was “tough on Terror”. There’s just no life in these people who are, objectively, war criminals and bastards of all kinds, just this cold detached robotic mode of interaction at all times. It even facilitates down to the voters, my mother, for instance, enraptured in the bland spectacle of these war criminals who always shuts me down whenever I mention their actual deeds. How can people be like this? How can liberals even be human? At least fascists drive themselves into a hot flaming passion with vile hatred and psychotic enjoyment in their destruction of human lives; liberals just feel nothing, taking a life for a liberal is like picking up a rock on the side of the road, it means nothing to them, not even power or enjoyment; it’s just a task. Liberalism seemed to at least stand for something in the 1790s, even during the nightmare of the original fascist wave; but now they’re as eugene-kun says, they are almost the essence of fascism, simply unmasked barbarity committed on behalf of capital, not even nationalist myth or passion to it, just cold slaughter, like stepping on a bug.

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I know capitalism is evil but it's hard to oppose it with stockmarket giving good returns and having an apartment to rent out. How do people cope with the contradiction? I don't want to risk my lifestyle so is it possible for petit porky to get an good position inside the hypothetical future regime in return for support? >Why should we give you anything? The poor masses might support you for free but you'd have to convince me to forgo my old way of life. In return something better should be promised. It's a win-win for both parties.

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Bruh what's with all these second gen slavic burger LARPers rambling about "le ebils of cummunism"?

Like holy fuck it's like these NPC cunts come straight off a conveyor belt, I hate them so much. These fucking scum basically LARP as though they were around in the 60s in the USSR when 90% of the time they're just degenerate burgers who never lived in the USSR going off the recollections of their kulak-brained parents who were usually something like seven years old when the USSR fell These fucking baboons do everything they can to warp the narrative, making it seem like the mainstream position in Russia is hatred of Stalin and worship of Hitlet What is it about burgerism that utterly poisons the brains of immigrants and makes their spawn even more retarded and burgerfied than even the average american?

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Iron Felix

Redpill me on iron felix. How based was he? I read he was a very compassionate man, did he eat reactionaries assholes alive? What he did wrong and what he did right? Was he really Stalin lover?

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I miss this nigga like you wouldn't believe. The last optimistic visionary we had.

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News 11/26/20

Bolivia: General Alfredo Cuellar Arrested Over Sacaba Massacre The Prosecutor's Office ordered the arrest of Bolivian Air Force General Alfredo Cuellar over the massacre that occurred in Sacaba city during the protests against the U.S.-backed coup that took place in November 2019. Farmers hit with water cannon and tear gas as Indian police try to halt protest march on Delhi (VIDEO) Indian police have been deployed in large numbers across the states of Haryana and Uttar Pradesh to stop thousands of farmers reaching Delhi in a huge demonstration against agricultural market reforms. Pilots, civilians given life terms over Turkey’s 2016 coup A Turkish court sentenced hundreds of military and civilian personnel at an air base to life prison sentences Thursday, proclaiming them guilty of involvement in the 2016 failed coup attempt against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s government. Ethiopian PM says troops ordered to move on Tigray capital Ethiopia’s prime minister said Thursday the army has been ordered to move on the embattled Tigray regional capital after his 72-hour ultimatum ended for Tigray leaders to surrender, and he warned the city’s half-million residents to stay indoors and disarm. Israeli court orders eviction of 87 Palestinians from East Jerusalem neighbourhood Israel's Jerusalem District Court ratified on Thursday the eviction of 87 Palestinians from the Batan al-Hawa area in Silwan in favour of the Israeli settler group Ateret Cohanim. US Air Force conducts successful supersonic nuclear test A US Air Force F-35 jet conducted a successful test drop of a mock nuclear bomb while traveling at greater than the speed of Russia Test-Fires ‘Tsirkon’ Hypersonic Missile The Russian military has test-launched its vaunted Tsirkon hypersonic cruise missile for at least the third time this year, the Defense Ministry announced Thursday. BBC defends comic's 'bomb Glastonbury' joke about Corbyn fans "But then people are so dogmatic and say he’s the greatest musician. People who like Corbyn, it’s what, 200,000 people in the Labour party that are fanatics? So all you’ve got to do next year is bomb Glastonbury. Hopefully Dylan’s headlining: two birds, one stone.” Matt Hancock's awarding of supply contract to former friend is ‘sickening’ AN ACQUAINTANCE and former neighbour of Health Secretary Matt Hancock has won a contract to produce millions of vials for Covid-19 tests despite having no experience in medical supplies. EU threatens to pull out of Brexit talks if UK refuses to compromise The EU’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, has warned David Frost that without a major negotiating shift by Downing Street within the next 48 hours he will pull out of the Brexit negotiations in London this weekend, pushing the talks into a fresh crisis.

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Could all workers join together in one union? Not tied to specific area of work or region. This would allow action throughout the whole country/all sectors of the economy. Why's this a bad idea and why hasn't it been done? How could you get people to join an organization like this?

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In the modern sense, why isn't Vietnam is a perfect example of Trotsky’s theory of ‘Permanent Revolution’. In the first case, the Vietnamese Revolution is an example of a Proletarian Revolution in the absence of a preceding Bourgeois Revolution. In the second case, the development of outside pressure against the Vietnamese state emphasises why it is necessary for the Proletarian Revolution to be spread beyond the nation’s border. Vietnam’s attempts to develop a Communist society have for decades come under monstrous coercion from imperialist states and organisations. This pressure began to intensify in the latter stages of the twentieth century, with the effects of the Vietnam War and the dissolution of the Soviet Union taking a large toll. These factors, along with general isolation and oppression from imperialist agencies, led to the Doi Moi reforms in 1986. These reforms integrated certain aspects of the market economy into Vietnam’s planned economy. The effects of trade embargoes and coercion from international imperialist organisations (such as the IMF and the World Bank) have made it impossible for Vietnam to survive in the context of the global economy without engaging in some element of global trade, which necessitated the acceptance of certain elements of the free market. This is why, as Trotsky explained, the Proletarian Revolution necessitates the support of the global Proletariat, and the Revolution must be international.

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The Marginalists

How do we defeat them?

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how is talent cultivated in communism? do talented people get extra recources?

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Why some of you are so cucked on the GI question?

you know what I mean. >THEY ARE PROLETARIAT TOO So is police then and no, you cannot compare them to WW1 Russian soldiers (who btw just overtrew the goverment, but weren't bolshevics and most of them were just pesants with rifles) with the current or recent state of the army, especially the US ones. Even the low tier apache fixing and desks working faggots pride themself in supposed scars (the same one blacks and 1/65th irish americans use to justify stuffing their mouths with shitty food) they don't have. Stop giving them ammo. They are just welfare queens. Is there anything more useless and counterproductive than these people? It's absolutley unacceptable that some of these can call themself socialist after their service. Being anti troop is a must. And whoever took part in the army should be stimatized for life. >BUT MUH TRAINING Fuck out of here, unless you are some navy seal special force psycho maniac tough guy your training it's just a desk job. If you treat them as an asset you are helping the mistique around these cucks, mistique alimented by hollywood memes too. Therefore what we need is Détournement against their proganda. Rambo? More like sissy. GI steven thinks his a tough guy because he plays with drones. He's a bitch. Remind him today.

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The Great Reset

So I was talking to my conservative boomer conspiracy-theorist dad the other day and he started talking about the "great reset" and how we're all gonna live in a dystopia now that Joe Biden is president. I was like okay man whatever thinking he was just spouting his usual bullshit but I was curious and looked it up and what the fuck. Its actually real. It has some good ideas and shit but it also seems dystopian as fuck (pic related) and just another way that porkie can exploit us. Can anyone redpill me on this shit from a lefty perspective?

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Biological Realism and Communism

Are race and sex realism compatible with communism? Serious question.