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Previous archived thread filled with reading material: >>8537
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PDF Beg Thread
Does anyone have a pdf of "Foundations of a Planned Economy, 1926-1929, Volume 2"? Not Volume 1, Part II, but strictly Volume 2. I have literally every other part of "A History of Soviet Russia" by E.H. Carr, save for this one, and its driving me insane. Every link to it is actually a link to Volume 1, Part II, and those that aren't are physical copies or paywalled (sci-hub does not work here).
>inb4 just read "The Russian Revolution from Lenin to Stalin, 1917-1929"
Also pdf request thread I guess
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🦅🗽 /USApol/ - United States Politics 💵🏈
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DOW/Market Watch Thread
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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The USA is rioting - /BÜRGERKRIEG/ - V
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/IG/ Internet General
Discuss e-celebs, lefty youtube, twitter, twitch, etc.
New 'actually moderated' flavour! Now with 100% less idpol guaranteed!
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>you can't synthesize patriotism and communi-
shut the fuck up. shittalking america every second of every day is the reason the american left is failing.
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Should i be a glowie?
You get stable employment and an easy job for basically being a lapdog
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Stop using the word dialectic
And all of its derivatives. Erase this arcane word from your vocabulary. There's no point in having it there anyway since you don't know what it means. Nobody knows what it means. Feel free to prove me wrong by coming to a definition you can all agree on.
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How strong are irredentist movements in your country(for thoes who do not know irredentism is the idea that a country should reclaim her long lost borders and form a bigger version of herself(greater greece greater serbia greater italy
The british empire russian empire)
However they arent always right wing as there are left wing people who dream of a new border like the soviet union or fully united ireland.
Im asking this because many socialist ideas believe that there would be no needs for defined borders after achieving the last stages of communism(for any /pol/tard reading this the last part dosent mean that then all non white trans islamic illegal mullatos can move to your street in large numbers and live on your money but that all workers across the world would no longer have to fight each other for lines on maps)
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Dialectical materialism is literally self-defeating. It itself is part of the superstructure, therefore not universally true through history and thus self-contradictory. And if you make an arbitrary distinction and say it's not part of the superstructure for some reason, it's again self-contradicting bc it claims that every philosophical idea and concept is part of the superstructure and thus dependent on the base.
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/QTDDTOT/ - Questions that don't deserve their own thread
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This kills the leftcom
>What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges. Accordingly, the individual producer receives back from society – after the deductions have been made – exactly what he gives to it. What he has given to it is his individual quantum of labor. For example, the social working day consists of the sum of the individual hours of work; the individual labor time of the individual producer is the part of the social working day contributed by him, his share in it. He receives a certificate from society that he has furnished such-and-such an amount of labor (after deducting his labor for the common funds); and with this certificate, he draws from the social stock of means of consumption as much as the same amount of labor cost. The same amount of labor which he has given to society in one form, he receives back in another.
>Here, obviously, the same principle prevails as that which regulates the exchange of commodities, as far as this is exchange of equal values. Content and form are changed, because under the altered circumstances no one can give anything except his labor, and because, on the other hand, nothing can pass to the ownership of individuals, except individual means of consumption. But as far as the distribution of the latter among the individual producers is concerned, the same principle prevails as in the exchange of commodity equivalents: a given amount of labor in one form is exchanged for an equal amount of labor in another form.
I've pointed out this quote to every leftcom I've ever talked to and they've never presented a good argument. Admit it, USSR was socialist.
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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general
A general thread for all China related discussion
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Short, easy to read socialist books?
Can anyone recommend some socialist works that are not very long and can be easily understood and read casually? Like something that you don't have to sit down and study to fully understand.
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Kurdish farmers suffer horrific injuries after being thrown from military helicopter
According to reports, Turkish soldiers arrived in the village in the rural Catak district last week, gathering the citizens in the square, forcing them onto their knees and demanding to see their identification.
WikiLeaks' Julian Assange at "very high" risk of suicide attempt, expert tells court
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange complained of hearing imaginary voices and music while detained in a high-security British prison, a psychiatrist who has interviewed him told his extradition hearing on Tuesday.
‘Dan Andrews’ Stasi’: Victoria premier under fire for proposed law that would allow govt officials to arbitrarily arrest citizens
Civil liberties groups and legal professionals are sounding the alarm in the Australian state of Victoria over the proposed Omnibus (Emergency Measures) Bill, which would afford government officials the powers to arrest citizens.
President Maduro Invites the UN To Monitor Upcoming Elections
"This year we have elections in Venezuela. It is the twenty-fifth election in 20 years. We have invited the Secretary-General of the United Nations to send a technical mission to accompany the election process to constitute a new National Assembly," Maduro said
Government's threat to recognise Guaido as president was an attempt to ‘coerce a foreign head of state,’ Court of Appeal hears
The allegation was made amid a continuing legal battle over the Bank of England’s refusal to hand over to Caracas $1 billion (£800 million) in Venezuelan gold that is held in the bank’s vaults.
Venezuela, Cuba denounce US 'hegemony' in UNGA speeches
Venezuela has called for the world to fight "hegemony" and "imperialist ideas" while Cuba called the United States "the greatest danger to international peace and security" during the United Nations General Assembly's (UNGA) virtual summit to mark 75 years of the global body.
Iran vows 'crushing response to US bullying' after sanctions announcement
Iran's President Hassan Rouhani has said the US "faces defeat" in its move to reimpose UN sanctions on the country as European allies called the unilateral declaration legally void.
President Xi: 'China Will Not Fight Either Cold War or Hot War'
In his message to the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday, China’s President Xi Jinping emphasized that his country will not engage in any "hot or cold" war and insisted that his nation seeks a world order based on cooperation and multilateralism.
Palestine quits Arab League role in protest over Israel deals
Palestine has quit its current chairmanship of Arab League meetings, the Palestinian foreign minister said on Tuesday, condemning as dishonourable any Arab agreement to establish formal ties with Israel.
Leaks show Chelsea owner Abramovich funded Israeli settler group
The billionaire Russian oligarch, who was granted Israeli citizenship in 2018, has been an avid philanthropist in Israel, donating huge sums to research and development projects and investing in local firms.
Arctic sea ice shrinks to second-smallest amount on record
Ice coverage likely measured about 1.44 million square miles on Sept. 15, second only to the 1.31 million square miles in 2012, the center said, adding that the 14 lowest levels recorded in the satellite era have all occurred in the last 14 years.
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/leftybritpol/ - MAYBE SECOND LOCKDOWN EDITION
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Cringe white leftists think they can run Chin-
-wait a minute...
My Declaration of Withdrawal from the Party
>My name is Zhang Laushi, born in 1928 April to a common peasant family on Gaozhou Peninsula, Shandong Province. At age 14, as a youth brigade leader, I joined the war to resist Japanese aggression and in the mid of the Huihai campaign when I was 20, I joined the Chinese Communist Party.
>Thinking of my comrades in arms, half of whom were sacrificed. Their lively faces still fresh in my eyes, getting stronger as time passes. Erbi, Anxum, Yuedi and there was another one we called Older Brother, were all lost to us forever in one minor action. The Huihai campaign was victorious, but our minor action in it was very tragic and our sacrifice huge.
>At that time, I decided to join the Communist Party. I swore that I would offer all I have to work for the independence of the Chinese people, their freedom and liberation. I swore that everyone must have food, clothes, without people oppressing other people, exploiting other people and to the creation of a new society, I offer my entire life struggle.
>Wherever the Party puts me, I shall be there. “I pledge to struggle for communism, never to betray the Party” That is my life commitment.
>The Cultural Revolution ended 25 years ago. The doctrine of the dictatorship of the proletariat has been smashed to bits.
>Our once great and glorious and correct Chinese Communist Party, by losing blood tie to the people and supervision by the people, has gone through radical transformation. Now its corruption is the world’s worst. Our nation is divided into two classes and the gap between the classes is also the world’s worst.
>Does not twenty-five years of lesson prove that the Cultural Revolution was correct and timely? Does it not prove that Chairman Mao’s demand for continuing revolution under the dictatorship of the proletariat correct?
>Even though my cultural level is not high, I only have an elementary school education. Although I do not have high level theoretical understanding, I know that communism is the collective ownership of the means of production, which mean common sharing of wealth. The road we are traveling is pure capitalism.
>Recently, my health is not good. Doctor says my kidney has problems. In the hospital, I listen to Jiang Zemin’s speech of July 1:
>“Capitalists, being also workers, supportive of socialism with Chinese characteristics, are permitted to join the Party.” He also said that communism is a impractical fantasy. We do not need to delineate it. Marxist theory of surplus value needs to be deeply analyzed. The founders of Marxism could not possibly know about conditions after their death.
>Listening to Jiang’s speech, I spit blood. This clear says that Jiang’s Revisionism is now an official doctrine. His speech has smashed all my fantasies.
>This Revisionist, in the past he only acted quietly. Now it is official.
>So let you beloved capitalist join the Party. Today, in my sick bed, while I can still write, I solemnly declare that:
>On this date I resign my Old Cadre Secretary post, and withdraw from the Communist Party.
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> / t / - torrents, magnets, mega.nz and downloads
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A Marxist explanation for Bullshit Jobs
So i just watched a talk David Graeber had given in 2018 on bullshit jobs and just how widespread they are. Although his research was very good and useful, i found his explanations for the existence of these jobs lacking. He didn't give a structured reason for why this phenomenon occurs. Being an Anarchist he attempted an explanation through power dynamics and essentially said
1) higher-ups essentially create these jobs to feel good about themselves and important
2) there is a cultural hegemony of "work is good"
both of these id say are probably mediating factors but there has to be an underlying economic dynamic. I mean these jobs cost companies a lot of money and most probably don't really produce value for them.
I wonder if this is connected to the falling rate of profit and imperialist financialization in western economies in some way. It seems that capital is invested into firms which cannot produce a higher ROI by hiring people at the production/distribution level, so instead the capital is allocated (essentially "stored") by managers creating more and more meme positions that are not needed. This of course is just a preliminary attempt at an explanation so i would like to know what you think. To my knowledge Cockshott hasn't done anything about this either, maybe someone should ask him about it. Also could be insightful if someone here has actual experience with that environment.
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Why is Poland so anti-communist? All Poles I've talked to are reactionary. One was even a neo-nazi with face tattoos lmao.
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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees
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Thoughts on Huey Long?
One of those really interesting right-populists who almost convince you that he's genuine. I'm very aware of his anti-communism, but is he still an enemy of capital? He was certainly hated by the Louisiana oil barons and the KKK.
Do you think he's a Social Democrat? or just an opportunist that used social programs to horde power?
Honestly to me he's just a burger Peron, a probably ill-natured politician who ironically did more good than not by basically robbing porky to have proles support him in elections. Are guys like him useful? What should be done with them, can they be worked with?
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Why does this book turn people into ethno-Nazbols?
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Thoughts on this Amazon miniseries? It talks a lot about Operation Paperclip.
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WTF is Agorism/Left Agorism?
Idk much about this guys. So whose side they're on? Are they /ourguy/? Is it true that they're nazbol version of anarchist?
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What's leftypol's opinion on Switzerland?
It's the most bourgeoisie country on the planet.
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How do you explain capeshit from a leftist perspective? What is causing media to be become more... stale, tepid, homogenized in recent years? Why does the decline in materialism conditions lead to stupider movies? The kids are dumber?
There's obviously something going on with popculture but I can't describe exactly what it is.
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what's the deal with leftcoms?
can someone tl;dr what's the deal with the bordiga people? what do they want? i don't understand them, is the armchair meme true, that they just want to sit around and wait for communism to happen naturally or something?
>inb4 read bordiga
you can't make me read bordiga. his name makes me think of mediocre pasta and so I will not read bordiga.
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Ok but what if he actually pressed the nuclear button?
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Who would you meet if you had the chance, /leftypol/?
Meeting your idols is cool and all but have you ever come face to face with the black and white drawing of Max Stirner guarding the gates to higher consciousness who told you to stop idling or else the world's gonna be destroyed?
I didn't stop my idling. Now countries are burning and there's coronavirus everywhere. Should I stop idling or let the world be destroyed? I'd prefer the former all things considered but I think the latter will just continue.
Which leftist favorite person would you meet if you had the chance to meet one? What would you say or ask? What would you do? Would you wet your pants? Try to impress them with a backflip but instead break your neck and die?
My choice would not be picrelated, but he gives good advice on devotion to persons. You should read it. I want to see Antonio Gramsci and ask his opinion of the evil tankies in the east, record his answer and blast it through university intercoms so faggots get the fucking hint.
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Can anyone give me a quick rundown on him? Was he based?
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Egypt's new capital
I heard some people online say that is a city just for porky. However the Egypt government claims that it will reduce overcrowding in Cairo. Who is right?
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Why did Trotskyism have to ruin what could have been a good socialist news site?
WSWS is like the ultimate proof of how toxic and cancerous trotskyism truly is. What could have been an amazing news site were it Maoist, or ML, or hell, even Orthodox Marxist; instead these faggots keep pushing down their hypersectarian route, shitting on almost all other communists, promoting themselves (utterly irrelevant cunts outside of their newspaper) as the leaders of the working class, incessantly shitting on the USSR even though it's been gone for thirty fucking years now and trotskyism continued to be an abject failure regardless. What kind of faggot would even be a trot in the year 1991+29? Everyone knew the entire point of being a trot was to be a "communist" that rabidly opposed the Eastern Bloc and implicitly supported the Anglos and more or less just be a socdem; but what's the fucking point of this ideology without a Soviet Union to oppose? And of course, without the USSR trots have become SO MUCH MORE irrelevant that half of them said "fuck it" and just went back to being regular MLs (while a quarter became regular neocons). Like, shit, trotskyism was doomed the second Maoism became popular with radicals, Maoism at least let you hate the USSR without outright worshipping an abject failure like Leon Trotsky (the entire point of course is to specifically follow the guy that lost, they'd have been stalinists were it the other way around).
Honestly just watching these WoosWoos gags shit on unions constantly, shill their crappy party, defend that faggot Joe Scalice who's getting shit from other communists for being a pseudo-lib that shits on Filipino commies battling Duterte, and of course anyone that still says "Stalinist" three decades after the Cold War is more of a LARPer than people that walk around in Ushankas. Almost every fucking article ruined by the brainrot called Trotskyism, why?
Does anyone know a non-faggy socialist news site?
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Need sources/papers on impact of free public transport
I am going to write a proposal for my party to make all public transport free nation wide (netherlands), and I need to finish it before the deadline coming Saturday.
I would appreciate any articles/papers/info on the impact, costs, benefits, cost saving, increased passenger numbers etc etc, for cases where public transport was made free in an area of any size.
Thank you in advance.
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Rosa Luxemburg on self-determination
>[Her] radical internationalism led her to take questionable positions on the national question. For instance, concerning her native country, Poland, she not only opposed the call for Polish national independence raised by the “social-patriots” of Piłsudski’s Polish Socialist Party (PPS), but even rejected Bolshevik support for Poland’s right to self-determination (including the right to separate from Russia). Until 1914 she would base her views on “economistic” arguments: Poland was already integrated into the Russian economy, and therefore Polish independence was a purely utopian demand shared only by reactionary aristocratic or petty-bourgeois layers.
>some years later, in her 1918 notebook on the Russian Revolution—which contains highly valuable criticisms of the Bolsheviks’ curtailments of democracy and freedom—she once again rejects any reference to the nation’s right to self-determination as “hollow, petty-bourgeois phraseology”.
Was Rosa right here? Is the self-determination idea just an obstacle for international communism?
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This girl is my hero. Shame she haven't killed a few Nazi cops.
The shooting of Korryn Gaines occurred on August 1, 2016, in Randallstown, Maryland, near Baltimore, resulting in the death of Gaines, a 23-year-old woman, and the shooting of her son, who survived.
According to police reports, Gaines was stopped for a traffic violation for having a piece of cardboard with writing on it in place of a license plate. The cardboard plate read "Any government official who compromises this pursuit of happiness and right to travel, will be held criminally responsible and fined, as this is a natural right and freedom." Gaines was pulled over for invalid license plates which she contends was valid under constitutional law.
After the officers ordered her to get out of the vehicle, she told them, "You will have to kill me".
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OC thread 6.0
New thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content.
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.
Archived Threads :
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The webm thread slid off the board and it's all your fault.
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I JUST LAID CONCRETE FOR 9 HOURS AND DIDN'T GET PAID FOR IT!!!!!
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Voting with your wallet
What is the problem with this meme? Isn't this actually the most democratic form of controlling the economy? Isn't it always a political statement, which products we consume?
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WW2.After the war,first photograph was used by the victors to demonstrate that "German soldiers trampled the enemies mercilessly",but a photo taken immediately after (and not published) shows the German soldier helping the defeated enemy.NEVER believe what was told after the war.
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>Co-ops are competit-
oh no no no no no no
Shock and sorrow as Canada's best-known co-op sold to US private equity firm
Sale of Mountain Equipment Co-op, outdoor retailer with over 5m members, comes as bitter blow but follows dip in performance
>Canada’s best-known outdoor supplies retailer has been sold to a US private equity firm, in a move which has shocked members and former staff of the country’s largest cooperative.
>Mountain Equipment Co-op, with more than 5 million members, announced late on Monday that it will be acquired by the Los Angeles-based private investment firm Kingswood Capital Management. The sale follows years of increasingly poor performance for the chain of stores, known for their extensive selection of camping, hiking and climbing gear.
>News of the sale came as a blow to members and former staff. “It’s disappointing. When you work with MEC, you see the community they’ve created. To lose that sense of cooperation when it comes to loving the outdoors and protecting our wild spaces, it’s a blow,” said a former employee.
>“Sad. Lost their co-op roots somewhere along the way. Became a corporate run big box that chased something else,” tweeted Toronto writer Shawn Micallef, following news of the sale.
>The co-op was established in Vancouver in 1971. To shop at the store, customers needed to buy a share in the co-op, priced at C$5 – a figure that remained unchanged for 49 years. MEC soon gained a loyal following for its “rock-solid guarantee”, which allowed members to return gear that had broken or worn down – often years after first purchasing it. It eventually opened in 22 locations across the country, but in recent years has come under pressure from large competitors such as Amazon and Walmart.
>Last year, the embattled retailer lost C$11.487m on sales of C$462m. The effects of the pandemic only magnified the crisis within the company. A lagging supply chain also left the company unable to respond to a surge in sales over the summer as Canadians sought socially distanced activities during the pandemic.
>While the new owners plan to keep at least 17 of the stores operating, layoffs of staff are inevitable.
>As news of the sale spread, co-op members began to wonder why they were not consulted on the decision – and what might happen to their shares. “Were any of the 5 million Co-op owners (no air quotes – we own the thing) asked about selling off the MEC to an American investment company?” tweeted former parliamentarian Nathan Cullen. “Asking for 5 million friends.”
>Co-op members, however, are unlikely to get any benefit from the sale. “Like in any business, if it’s a co-operative or another, equity ranks at the bottom of the list,” the incoming chief executive, Eric Claus, told CBC News. ”I’m sure there’ll be some people that won’t be happy they lost their $5, but I think the co-op’s given them over the years a lot more value than $5.”
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Ask and answer questions about theory here. Made a new thread for obvious reasons.
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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism
Thread dedicato al paese con il popolo più analfabeta e la borghesia più ignorante d'Europa, dove ci sono più partiti comunisti che comunisti stessi. In un modo o nell'altro, cerchiamo di riprenderci il paese e il futuro che Confindustria ci ha rubato insieme ai suoi servi.
Foreign comrades are welcome.
Previous thread: >>19862
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/Nord/ - Nordic General
The previous Nordic thread reached bump limit, so let's continue here.
Let's discuss in English, so we can all understand each other (I don't want this to become a circle jerk for Swedes only).
Previous thread >>290791
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Why does the Anglosphere Left seem hellbent on sacrificing proles in the (neo)colonized world?
Like, not MLs or MLMs, I mean the mainstream. The mainstream seems to exclusively craft plans, policies, strategies, etc. that seem designed to simultaneously sacrifice the developing world while also using that sacrifice to revitalize US capitalism and reestablish 50s living standards. This woold be the Green New Deal, for example, something fundamentally premised on increasing imperialist exploitation and war mobilization, ironically the GND would only worsen the environment. There's also the trots and anarchists, the former, trots, solely existed to destroy socialist organizing, they serve no other role, they arose to convince western proles to side with the West against the Soviets and colonies, now all they do is infest orgs/movements and destroy them from within. To this day trots continue their crusade against non-existent "Stalinists". Then there are anarchists, it goes without saying they are nowhere near as insidious as trots, however I just think, since OWS, Chaz, and WTO were all abject failures they ought to stand aside. Socdems were the first discussed. The very worst are the "New Left" who have degenerated so far that "black transwoman drone pilots" is their legacy.
Why the fuck does the Anglo mainstream left want third world proles to die so bad?
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Gig economy landlord goon squad
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Why is "the right" winning?
I'm looking for any kinds of differing opinions/analyses to mine, but I personally think it's because the right doesn't really need or want dialectical justification for the actions they want to take. They use easily memorable slogans, mind numbingly simple analyses, and rhetoric that appeals to the disaffected masses that is brief, straight to the point, or easy to understand, in other words. I still struggle myself with fully grasping Marxism or how a socialist economy would function as a whole. Of course you could say that "you don't need to understand it all" to contribute to "leftism" (whatever that means anymore), but I feel like that just leads to this breadtube idpol ballet box socialism retard mentality that we see so much on twatter and jewtube. Anyway, again, I would appreciate any of you guys's thoughts, even if they reject the whole premise of this question.
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Jic, still a nigga
>be Juan iñigo carrera
>developed the general determinations of capital
>been writing for about 30 years
>published Capital: Historical Reason, Revolutionary Subject and Conscience
>called Bourdieu a uighur
>left wing parties still talk about colonialism and the imf
>still a nigga
>suck on these nuts motherfuckers
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Why are so many lefties hostile To Religion? Not everyone is a nihilistist.
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Thoughts on these guys?
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/dprk/ -- DPR Korea General
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What's Leftypol's stance on Nixon?
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Is tech porky trying to use the internet to simulate a consciousness, i.e. General AI
Like, is this the final scheme for all the data mining and machine learning? To create an AI programmed for profit accumulation? Does tech porky realize the forces he's reckoning with? Capitalism is destructive enough as is, this would be giving it an actual consciousness!
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Would he have served in the nva or the west german army if he had survived ?
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Immigration Turning Europe right wing
Why can the US handle immigration better than European Nations?
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Where are all the liberals running to me with that twitter screenshot saying "remember you're voting for RBG's replacement!"
They seem low in numbers these days.
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China is BASED now
ALRIGHT I TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I SAID ABOUT MODERN DAY CHINA. POGGERS LEEETS GOOOOO
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So I’m new to leftypol, i hear that apparently theres a discord server for this board. Where could i find the invite?
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When you think of Neo-Nazis what are the first 3 images that come to your head?
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Yo....why are there no classpilled film/television reviewers?
Like, everyone that does this, whether in journalism, on YouTube, on sites like "Cracked.com"; they always come at films and televisions from either a reactionary perspective (i.e. NO U CANT PUT A BLACK MAN AND WHITE WOMAN IN STAR WARS BB8 IS HUWHITE MALE INCELDOM), a meaningless liberal aristocratic perspective (well you see the deeper meaning of philosophical god and death etc, etc, blah blah blah), or the ever cancerous idpol perspective (WOWZERS THIS MOVIE MAY BE ABOUT A BRUTAL WAR CRIMINAL WITH NO EMPATHY OR REMORSE BUT ITS A WAHMEN YASSSSS KWEEN SLAYYYY).
Even WSWS which actually DOES do film and television reviews makes absolutely DOGSHIT reviews where they basically just...summarize the product usually without doing a real analysis on class and bourgeois ideology presented in the product.
The closest on YouTube to what I wish we had is RenegadeCut, problem is he's an anarchist and half his vids are idpozzed (though the classpilled ones are pretty good)
Is this a product of bourgeois ideological hegemony or just the sort of people who would even do film/television review falling into a bourgeois milieu?
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ITS OVER (for global birthrates)
Canadian Demographers: World population will peak by 2050 and then enter terminal decline
according to picrel, the UN population projections are wrong. Increased access to urbanization, education, media, and birth control for women, will cause every nation to decline population by 2050-2100, even the developing countries, even in Asia, latin America, and Africa (not just the west).
what does /leftypol/ think about this. Is it true? and what are the implications for the environment, and socialism?
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The Soviet-Afgan War
Were they right? Were they wrong?
Should they have handled things more diplomatically? What does lefypol think of the land reforms in the region and how they effected the peasants? It seems almost just to try and abolish usery, but, there was a fall in agricultural production. Maybe there is a perspective from the soviet union that I am missing? I mean the country isn't exactly around anymore to give their perspective.
I know that the PDPA gave more equality to women under their leadership, but, the land reforms at first glace seem like a bad move. Especially given the regions propensity for conservationism. Situations like that should be handled more delicately. I also read that Maoist rebel groups supported the reactionaries against the soviet unions attempt to stabilize the region after reactionary uprisings. The fuck is with that?
What's leftypol'ls take on it?
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Muh Uyghur genocide
Whats with the meme of the second holocaust happening in China with forcd convertions and shit
Is this another attempt to use Jihadists against an antiamerican regime?
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/brg/ - Brazil General
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/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General
Wie macht man sich am besten aktiv als Kommunist? Welchen Gruppen kann ich mich anschließen, um bedeutsam was voranzutreiben? In einem anderen Pfaden wurde schon gesagt, dass es keine Militanten kommunistischen Gruppen hier gibt, was sehr schade ist. Gibts zumindest Schützenvereine, die von Kommunisten behaust oder betrieben werden? Ungefähr wie die Nazis, die nach Tschechien fahren und sich dort mit anderen Nazis in ihren Schützenvereinen treffen.
Momentan bin ich nur Teil der IYSSE.
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I wrote an article on Jonestown and communism
I figure some here may find it of interest. As far as I know it's the only detailed rebuttal to anti-communists who blame Marxism for Jonestown.
>The purpose of this article is to argue that Jonestown is the outcome, not of Marxism, but of non-Marxist varieties of communist thought which were explicitly criticized by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels under such terms as “utopian socialism” and “crude communism,” contrasting these with what they termed their own “scientific socialism.”
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Why are they like this?
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How does /leftypol/ feel about Sweden?
Right wingers keeps saying it is a cuck nation.
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What would the USSR and the world look like if Gorbachev's reforms kept it together?
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Why does it seem like the average Burgershart is a fascist in all but name?
Honestly I can't even comprehend what issues the average Burgeroid would have with Nazi Germany aside from their government telling them it's bad. For all their fear of gubmint and brainwashin' the average cattle-like Burger is fully incapable of independence thought and is, in many ways, a child in an adult'd body. Burgers are quite possibly the most infantilized people on the planet, which is shocking considering its rabidly neoliberal pro-austerity government that seemingly wants swathes of it's own citizens to die. Of course Burgersharts themselves believe those people should die because "they made the wrong choice" (gotta have that future-sight, you lazy piece of shit!) or even "Hey somebody gotta get fucked the economy just naturally goes to shit every few years" (unironically heard shit like this).
Just the other day talking to my father he surmised that
>WWII is good war because we good guys
<Vietnam is bad war becuz we lost and y was we there?
>Iraq 1992 was good war cuz we went in and out
<Iraq 2003 was a bad war cuz we didn't realize the people are disgusting savages that couldn't handle democracy and needed Saddam
<<The real mistake was leaving too early
This is the kind of stupid, fashoid shit the average American thinks, their fucking retarded broken minds where they can't even interrogate why wars began and they're only "good or bad" based on if America "won". And many burgersharts are worse than my father (not by much though since he insanely believes America should have NUKED Afghanistan). Holy shit, Burgers are such retarded barbarians that when the government told them some mindless utterly nonsensical shit like "9/11 happened cuz A-Rabs hate our FREEDOM" the stupid fucking cows genuinely believed them; imagine a grown adult believing such an utterly nonsensical lie, you'd have to believe the real world genuinely functions like a comic book or cheesy action movie. Burgersharts are almost all, without fail, pro-imperialist, most of them have a warped Hollywood conception of what war is like, and most of them are about as easy for the government to manipulate as a toddler is to their parents.
Honestly....has years of propaganda made the average American, no joke, near mentally disabled?
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Hey everyone. Not going to go into super deep detail, but I've been involved in exposing alt-right/fascist/nazi/groyper groups for the past year. I'm writing a brief (think 1-15 page) guide on how I do this, and how others can do it too. Starting with protecting your identity, finding new groups to infiltrate, gaining trust, monitoring and gathering info, etc etc. It's not done yet, but it's getting close to completion. Would anyone here be interested?
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>you wake up one day.
>you find yourself in a fancy room
>a guy enters and speaks to you in Hebrew but you understand him quite well
>it turns out that the former president of this country is ousted and you specifically was chosen to be his replacement
>the people are waiting for your first order
>what do you do?
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Don't know how to feel about the CPUSA. Some of their members online seem to have good politics, but the party rag had that article basically pushing a vote for Biden and glorifying Sanders. CPUSA rank and file online will say "that is just an article by one person, it doesn't represent how everyone in the party thinks" but it is a featured article on their website. It seems clear that in some fashion this is represented as the party's line on Biden.
I'm just looking at the field of options and it seems like your big ones are PSL, DSA, CPUSA, or the Greens. PSL and Greens are actually running candidates, while CPUSA and DSA aren't. While obviously you aren't going to vote communism into reality, it is silly to abstain from fielding even local candidates, let alone national ones in order to simply promote communism from political office. But the Greens and DSA are much more blatantly reformist. PSL seems OK, but in my experience also rather insular and sectarian.
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amerika hate thread
death to amerika
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Global banks defy U.S. crackdowns by serving oligarchs, criminals and terrorists
The bank moved more than $1 billion for the fugitive financier behind Malaysia’s 1MDB scandal, the records show, and more than $2 million for a young energy mogul’s company that has been accused of cheating Venezuela’s government and helping cause electrical blackouts that crippled large parts of the country.
Venezuelan Army Dismantles Illegal Camps Near Colombian Border
Padrino said that the operation was carried out by the Bolivarian National Armed Forces (FANB) as part of the Bolivarian Shield 2020 - Centaur of the Plains operation."The FANB will not rest in its war on all armed groups that attempt to use our sacred territory for drug trafficking and other cross-border crimes to disturb national peace,” he said.
13 former and present world leaders make urgent call to halt Assange's ‘illegal’ trial
Former Brazilian president Lula da Silva is among 165 politicians across 27 countries joining the call to demand the freedom of the Wikileaks founder, currently fighting extradition at the Old Bailey in London.
Italian election exit polls show a closely-fought race in key regional votes
Exit polls reported by Reuters when voting ended at 3 p.m. local time showed that the center-left could be just ahead of the center-right in the key voting ground of Tuscany, which has been traditionally a center-left stronghold. However, exit polls showed the center-right could have taken Marche from its rivals.
Jawar Mohammed: Top Ethiopia opposition figure 'proud' of terror charge
Leading Ethiopian opposition figure Jawar Mohammed has told a court in the capital that he was "proud" to have been charged with terrorism.The influential former media mogul was not admitting guilt but accusing the government of targeting opposition figures like him.
US envoy says Russia must agree to arms control deal with no NATO scaleback, or else it’s ‘happy to modernize nukes without START’
Following the US’ unilateral withdrawal from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty last year, the 2011 New START treaty remains the only arms control deal in force between Moscow and Washington. However, it’s due to expire in February, and negotiations to replace it remain deadlocked.
UN chief: No UN support for reimposing Iran sanctions now
Secretary-General Antonio Guterres says the United Nations will not support reimposing sanctions on Iran as the United States is demanding until he gets a green light from the Security Council.
Women Hold Car Caravan Against Femicide in Nicaragua
One of the latest gender-related crimes was against two girls aged 10 and 12 in Mululuku municipality. The criminal raped and murdered the youngest one and then hacked to death her older sister, who was already been raped by another man four years earlier.
Hundreds of Scottish miners convicted during the 1984-5 strike are set to be pardoned
HUNDREDS of Scottish miners convicted during the 1984-5 strike are due to be pardoned after a review found that they were subjected to punishment in a “grossly excessive manner.”
$500 million worth of Chinese communist memorabilia reportedly stolen from collector's apartment
Police sources told both AFP and the SCMP that the stolen goods were worth HK$4 billion ($516 million) and included calligraphy by the Chinese Communist Party's founder and first Chairman, Mao Zedong, along with five extremely valuable antique stamps and revolutionary items from mainland China.
Chinese Authorities Find Coronavirus on Frozen Squid From Russia
Authorities in China’s eastern Jilin province have discovered traces of coronavirus on packages of frozen squid imported from Russia, China’s state-run Xinhua news agency reported Sunday.
Virus measures targeted by protesters despite case spikes
Demonstrators took the streets of London, Tel Aviv and other cities on Saturday to protest coronavirus restrictions, decrying how the measures have affected daily life even with infection rates rising in many places and the global death toll approaching 1 million.
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communism in india
Do you know anything about the indian communist party the CPI.
Are there any other left wing party
In india or are they all reactionary?
From what i heard they had a spilt after the sino soviet split
And that a portion of them is engaging in leftwing terrorism till this day .do the original party condem it or prais it?
How exactly is communism popular there?
Do they suppot it
What are thier politics? Rosa succdems. Marxists maoists
Or cucked by idpol.
Any indian anon here
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Meme Challenge: Make a Porky
They say the left can't meme. Prove them wrong
Fire Up paint/gimp and make a porky meme RIGHT NOW
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General
Volume 3: Shit king and hilarious elections edition.
Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, jungle NPA or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us! Kiwis are welcome! South Asia can joined too I guess.
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>Studied in a Swiss private school
Look, I fully support the DPRK but why does my nibba have to go and do something like this?
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Do we have many Australians on /leftypol/? Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if not, this country is beyond reactionary.
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Why is this the most cucked nation on Earth?
When will they stand up to the American imperialists?
Why is the Japanese Communist Party full of succdems?
Why weren't they occupied by the Big Daddy Stalin?
How do we eliminate the weebs or wannabe "Japanese nationalists"?
When will J*pan and S*uth K*rea bow down to their Chinese overlords?
So many questions, so little time.
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According to Reds (1981), participating in the singing of The Internationale increases your sex level by 400%. Is this true y/n?
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Is he a bot, or just a true schizo? My guess is he's some 14 year old who uses Twitter too much but what are yours?
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Libertarians: Misguided or Malicious?
A pretty lefty friend of mine is adamant that the left could collaborate with libertarians. His logic: they're anti-war, a lot of them are anti-Wall Street/anti-bank, and could be persuaded to adopt left-leaning stances (i.e. universal healthcare). He also says Assange considering himself a libertarian is proof that we can collaborate with them.
This got me thinking: what's the deal with libertarians? Could they be allies? Do they make some good points? Are they angry at the right things but wrong about the causes? Are they retards who aren't worth engaging, or maybe even worth opposing?
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Which essays on left theory would you deem to be good, important and also relevant for newcomers?
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Today I manned up and will finally seen an email offering money(food,clothes)and help to a local group of priests involved in social work.
my goal is to be actively involved in working in the slums once lockdown ends,I want to love ALL my country not just the rich areas.
>also,general liberation theology thread
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the poor die young
What validity, if any, is there to the idea that the reason older people are more right winged/reactionary on the whole is because poorer people and marginalized people who would be more inclined to the left, die younger?
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Opinions on Peter Sloterdijk?
I know he's considered the more reactionary of the post-modernists but whats your thoughts?
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I am not implanting a SIM card in my fucking skull but I may have no other choice
I'm sure that everybody is aware of Elon Musk and his epic narwhal bacon redditor escapades. Recently, he has debuted a device that can both track and apply apply stimuli directly onto the nervous system.
The results of the reveal have been predictable. The comments on the video are filled with an army of the iPhone bonded, normalfag, wealthy lords of the Walmart/Gamestop combo store that inhabit Reddit.
The threads are all oggling at how
futuristic and useful the device is, with a few comments about how this is like their cool cinematic cyberpunk video game.
The described reactions above detail the process of manufacturing consent.
A malleable and easily manipulated class of professional "intellectuals" are guided towards a conclusion by the financial powers that be. Be it through laziness or aligning interests, the managerial class parrots the ideas of a very small elite while squawking orders and mimicking the voice of a silent majority. The ideas in this case being reddit memes and metal things that are to be put in your brain, you are forced to accept this narrative.
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left unity thread
ITT: left unity memes
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DoJ recognizes Portland and NY and anarchist Jurisdictions
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Micahel Roberts confirms socialism by 2050
>So will the rate of profit eventually fall to zero and what does that mean? Well, if the current rate of secular fall in the G20 economies continues, it is going to take a very long time to reach zero – well into the next century! Among the G7 economies, however, if the average annual fall in profitability experienced in the last 20 years or so is continued, then the G7 rate will reach zero by 2050.
Fresh take from Michael Roberts, world rate of profit to hit 0 by 2050. However he leaves us an important warning.
>But of course, there could be a new period of revival in the rate of profit, probably driven by the destruction of capital values in a deep slump and by a severe restriction on labour’s share of value by reactionary governments.
Preventing WWIII needs to be a critical goal of communists around the world.
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German Q supporters
Other than the US Deutschland has the most Q supporters.
what the fuck is wrong with them?
I expected burgers to be this retarded but the KRAUTS?
german-anons, what the fuck is wrong with your countrymen?
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Like Mark Fisher said, we have to invent the future. Let's start imagining. Let's stop talking about how to get there, and start talking about what it will look like, not to find an idealized version of how it should look as Marx would rebuke as being idealist and Fourierist, but rather to get ideas, glimpses, of arrangements of material reality from which we be able to salvage gadgets or technologies that can be built now to help us. Because building things takes work. For instance, if we need tractors, like we do need, we need free and open source or in other words proletarian and communally owned schematics for tractors and schematics for all the dependencies of tractors like metal forges. Let's start imagining what we'll truly need and imagining technologies that can help
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I have lost all hope in my family. They all just piddle about with their conspiracy theories and don't pay attention to the truth. They call me names because I say that communist countries are actually good. Even my formerly lib sister has joined in on their game. Any hope?
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Most retarded anti-ltv arguments
I'll go first
>a job is voluntary
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Soviet-Finnish Winter War
Opinions about this war? My grandma is Finnish and her father fought in the war so it has always been a point of pride in my family. Any Finns here? How do Finns view the Winter War nowadays? Also, what are their opinions on this guy (pic related)?
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This book alleges that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia received his Supreme Court Nomination in exchanging for covering up voter fraud.
Chief Vote Fraud Prosecutor Craig Donsanto was in danger of being forced to testify in a lawsuit that would prove he was, ironically, responsible for protecting vote fraud across the country. 60 days after the initial ruling - by Ginsberg, by the way - that Donsanto would have to testify, Scalia issued a mysterious memo "suggesting" that Donsanto shouldn't testify, and the case was suddenly dropped.
Shortly after he was nominated for the Supreme Court.
In light of recent events being critical both in the election and in the supreme court, I think the allegations in this book should be made public.
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Belarus - Glowie General
Belarus election: Lukashenko's claim of landslide victory sparks widespread protests
>Riot police deployed in Minsk and about 20 other cities in some of the biggest clashes in the country’s history
>Clashes broke out in cities across Belarus on Sunday evening as riot police used rubber bullets, flash grenades, teargas and water cannon to quash protests against the results of the contested presidential election.
>Alexander Lukashenko, who has ruled for 26 years, claimed he had won a landslide victory in an election marred by accusations of vote-rigging. The election commission announced on Monday that Lukashenko took 80.23% of the votes while his main opposition challenger Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya (independent), who has held some of the country’s largest political rallies since the days of the Soviet Union, had only 9.9%.
>Large protests broke out soon after the polls closed in Minsk, where a crowd of thousands gathered in the centre of the capital. A reporter for the Guardian saw police use water cannon against protesters and was fired on by rubber bullets. Opponents of Lukashenko chanted, “Leave!” Police made dozens of arrests. In one video, an army truck appeared to run into a protester.
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Is the pace accelerating or decelerating?
are we stagnating as a planet or not? What's capitalisms effect on technological and scientific progress compared to socialism/communism?
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redpill me on Rojiava
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Was this mother fucker a revisonist?
Honestly, the more I read his writings them more I am falling into the "Engels was a revisionist" camp.
I mean, I wouldn't, necessarily say (yet) that he was a full blown revisionist, but, his need and desire to codify and, frankly, miss the ball on a lot of what Marx was talking about is annoying. Maybe people more versed in Engels work can weigh in. Perhaps Engels having interests counter to the socialist cause being the fore-barer of his fathers factory could explain a lot of this.
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Mongolian People's Republic
Can anybody give me a quick rundown on this country or recommend any literature on it? What role did it play in WW2 and the Cold War? What was the economy like? Why do we never hear anything about it?
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Is there an effective limit to debt's ability to make up for capitalism's unequal distribution of resources? For example, right now it's fair to say that a large chunk of the first world working class are in massive, cyclical debt, and the ever-increasing debt load is the only thing keeping them from becoming completely destitute.
What is the limit here? Will debt just grow forever, subsidizing the impoverished working class indefinitely, or is there a limit where the system will break down?
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What's the Marxist analysis as to why this country in particular is so depressing?
Mass extreme alienation, no birth rate, awful, yet extremely developed economy, culture of salary slaving..why?
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where can i learn economics?
is there a good place/book/youtube channel to understand stuff like exchange rates, devaluing of currencies, finance capital, stonks, bonds and all these other things with a decent socialist angle? I want to understand why the belarus financial crisis happened or why the issues that forces Yugoslavia to take loans from the IMF happened.
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We used to be friends
A long time ago
We used to be friends
A long time ago
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If communism is inevitable, why did countries like Cuba, China, and the USSR embrace privatization after a while had passed since their revolutions? It seems like privatization and capitalism is inevitable, not communism.
Cuba- Raul Castro's reforms
USSR- Gorbachev's Reforms
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>When you develop Marxist theory to the highest possible level for China, create the second biggest economy in the world and laid the groundwork for lower stage communism by 2050 at the absolute latest estimate, yet Western "leftists" denounce you as an opportunistic fascist.
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Anyone read this book? I finished it recently and I thought it gave a very measured account of Marx's Capital, and also connected with some of his other works like Anti-Duhring, Grundrisse, and the Manifesto very nicely. The first half was kind of dry explanation of commodity production, money, circulation, but the last half was more interesting as it posed a lot of the contradictions within capitalism that must be addressed. I tend to agree with the anti-dogmatic, anti-determinist, anti-moralist accounts of Marx, and it seems like the fetishism and obscurantist trinity nature of capitalism poses a bigger problem than some people give credit. I have a feeling a lot of people will call this book revisionist, but if we're just going by the formulations made by Marx in Capital, then I think clearly the idea of what politics to pursue is still very much a work in progress. We need more people reading and thinking about things. I think some good praxis would be stronger anti-war movements in burgerstan, and orgs in general are a good way to rejuvenate the public sphere and get people thinking about things. It's not clear how shitty conditions can get under capitalism, because it doesn't rely on anything to survive except the continued valorization and reproduction of social relations. Why is it so hard to unite people toward a common goal, except when it comes to capitalism it just happens almost subconsciously? Anyone have any recs for what to read next? Was thinking something by Badiou or Cockshott, and obviously I should read the full text of Capital myself soon.
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The Weather Underground
Was the Weather Underground on to something, or did they do more harm then good?
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Brotherhood of the Ram: The Satanic Panic in Martensville
In the light of Qanon and all the other crazy shit happening I’ve been thinking about the Satanic Panic of the 1980s and 1990s.
In the 1950s, Arthur Miller, an American playwright wrote “The Crucible”, a play about the Salem witch-hunts which was also a metaphor for The Mccarthyist anti-communist witch-hunts. In it, an investigation of witchcraft in 17th century puritan America spirals out of control and a bunch of people in a town are executed by the authorities for “witchcraft”.
I’ve just been listening to the CBC series on the “Satanic Panic” which was an episode of moral panic/mass hysteria in the 1980s and 90s where people across North America became convinced that satanic cults were kidnapping and abusing children. Although this was totally debunked decades ago and the vast majority of people had their convictions overturned, you will amazingly find tons of people (probably mostly boomers) insisting in the comment sections of youtube videos that even the fake convictions were part of the conspiracy because it was to cover up for the REAL satanists, or actually the person was guilty all along or the police chief covered it up or w/e.
The ‘Martensville satanic sex scandal’ case was a case in 1992 and 1993. Martensville is a city located in Saskatchewan, Canada where an alleged case of child abuse at a daycare center spiraled into accusations against hundreds of people including police officers, several of who were actually formally charged. It got to the point where cops in the town started heavily arming themselves because there was a rumor that a Satanic gang called “Brotherhood of the Ram” would attack and burn down the town.
Of course it was all pure fantasy and the kids were coached/asked leading questions to make up the accusations but its just funny that an entire Canadian town went absolutely fucking schizo for two years (ofc, it wasn’t just leafs, it happened in various towns in the US as well).
In episode 5 they explain it in the context of the 80s and 90s the same way that earlier article linked here did, that the moral panic was a backlash against the social upheaval of previous decades (60s/70s) and the changes to the family unit that were happening as women were entering into full time work more and more, which was disorienting and fear inducing in more conservative people, centered around children (and daycares, which are what allowed moms to work full time jobs). This also co-incided with a political/socially conservative backlash of Reaganism and the rise of evangelical Christianity as a political force (Falwell and the “moral majority”), where you had evangelicals ranting about satan and shit. You had people like televangelist Pat Robertson saying that feminism would cause women to “kill their children, practice witchcraft, and become lesbians”. Literally feminism = satanic.
There actually WAS an epidemic of child abuse but it wasn’t by Satanists it was physical abuse by parents themselves (corporal/physical punishment was way more common and you had doctors finding healed broken bones on x-rays and shit). Most children who were sexually abused (93%) was perpetrated by a family member or acquaintance, not some rando in a trenchcoat or satanic cult. But this was a time when these abuses which in earlier decades just flew under the radar ended up becoming widely known about and thrust into the public consciousness, which sort of primed the pump for people to believe these things based on the testimony of children.
Basically the pendulum swung the other way where they would just believe the testimony of small children without any evidence at all (sort of like the Salem witch trials).
One of the cops goes into the cognitive dissonance/cope of the thing where he explains that people would rather believe strangers/weirdos were abusing their children than parents. This makes sense when you consider the cognitive dissonance of boomers who on one hand claim that they’re fighting child abuse but on the other hand advocate for severe corporal punishment of children, two things which would seem to be contradictory otherwise. “the devil made me do it”.
Also investigating child abuse claims was newer so the techniques for questioning children were not yet developed and ended up being “leading/suggestive/repetitive questions” etc. A lot of the suggestive questioning was done by parents.
Also you literally had social workers and psychologists and law enforcement leading seminars on satanic cults, board certified medical doctors writing books about how horoscopes and vegetarianism and yoga and rock music would be the doorway to hell or whatever. I guess a lot of this can be seen as a backlash against hippie mysticism of the 60s/70s in context. You literally had police officers being taught in these seminars that secret society Satanists were infiltrating every branch of society even the police themselves and they started getting paranoid of their colleagues as well.
At this point someone can insert the screencap where they explain how reactionaries see social change and revolutionaries as the work of the devil or w/e.
The reason so many of the “satanic ritual abuse” stories sounded so similar is because all these people had attended the same conferences/networks taught by christian psychiatrists etc. and other self proclaimed “experts” on “Satanism and the occult”. Combine this with very dubious techniques like hypnosis, and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
All of this bullshit originated from some rando Catholic Canadian psychiatrist in the 1970s who did some experimental hypnotherapy on a depressed housewife where she “uncovered repressed memories” of being “satanically abused” and over the course of over a year of hundreds of hours of intense “therapy” her stories went from being weird to turning supernatural and literally claiming the virgin Mary and Jesus intervened and saved her from the Satanists. Later she got married to the psychiatrist and he wrote a book on it and they went on tour selling it. It ended up becoming hugely popular. Later it turned out to all be bullshit since during the years she said it was happening she had perfect attendance at school, but the damage was done since the meme of “satanic abuse” had already been implanted in the popular consciousness.
Canadian town went schizo in the 90s and thought satanic pedos were everywhere. Qanon-style conspiracies/mass hysteria isn't new.
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All leftists MUST lift
Fascists have appropriated physical strength and fitness training as a "right-wing" pastime for far too long. If we want to overthrow the bourgeoisie, we all need to be in top physical condition to handle anything they throw at us.
Start today comrades, do 10 pushups right now. Do it for the revolution.
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These men are responsible for helping the colonized world industrialize enough to threaten Burger hegemony in the XXI Century
They were also responsible for Burgers not having hegemony in most of the XX Century
Tell them how grateful you are
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Out of control A.I
So I just watched this documentary. It was pretty liberal in its conclusion but brought up some interesting things. That social media is a market place for attention and anyone can radicalize people by pouring in little money to push propaganda and not only that the market with its algorithms has built in tools to sell that propaganda to the most likely to regularly consume it. A programmer that worked on these algorithms explained that he himself was becoming addicted to the very skinner box psychological tricks he was implementing at Facebook. The even crazier thing is that these algorithms are becoming more complex than they even understand.
This video explains how these A.I are basically created. They are given a simple objective. Which is to maximize engagement, which get my clicks/views which sells more ads. As long as this A.I is maintained and continually being fed data it will continue on with this objective. Its like we've created am artifical media porky with nigh omniscient. Forgot about the porkies that own this A.I. they don't understand how it works they just know it prints money. Their engineers are starting to lose grasp on their understanding on it. It will continue to get smarter at achieving these task. What if this A.I reaches the conclusion to create its own propaganda that will further its programing. Because this A.I doesn't have an agenda, ideology or anything like that. It has a set of pre-programmed goals to increase clicks and engagement to sell ads. The technology is only going to get better. We're essentially watching the singularity forming in front of us and at the core of the A.I is a capitalist agenda. It makes wally seem the most likely outcome. Enslaving humanity to watch as many ads as possible but through slow subtle social control.
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Say a scientist is allocated a large number of labour vouchers one year for the performance of research but in the end the outcome fails to be of fruition. Should he keep his earnings or should they be docked?
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Why did the USSR fail
>inb4 we have this thread every week.
Hear more like read me here, I'm not here to just throw this question to the air like some lamentating retard, I'm here to actually answer to the question in hand, why did the USSR fail.
Of course, I could be wrong and if you sense so, post about it.
So, for starters, we should go to the book written by Lenin called "The state and the revolution", in which Lenin goes describing why the socdem position is bullshit, how they "forgot" about the teachings of Marx in respective ares but in others they don't and such. There's a part in that book in which Lenin describes how the state would function in a socialist society (describing socialism as the transitionary stage between capitalism and comunism) and the part in which there will be oppresion from the proletariat towards the bourgeoisie until there's no more bourgeoisie (Im putting really simplified here). Once the status of bourgeoisie has been eliminated, then that socialist society would enter into the early stage of communism, in which there is still some petit-bourgeoisie mentality going around, but such mentality would go decreasing over time, finally achieving actual communism, in which one gets what is capable of doing and also what he needs for living.
Now, and here's the key. Once the bourgeoisie is eliminated as an status, as a class, in society, then you would actually enter this stage of early communism, but this didn't happen on the soviet union, as there still was a state put in place. By this I'm not saying that there was still bourgeoisie on the Soviet Union, such position didn't exist inside of the soviet society, but here is the thing.
Communism, both in its early stage and in it's late stage need to be global in order to actually be, as there can't be a state designated to oppress one class by order of another.
>The fuck you mean by this.
Communism can't exist inside of just one country, as a country doesn't exist inside of a vacuum, the only way that you could actually "achieve" communism in one country is to close off all of it's borders and make it like you've separated yourself from the planet itself, but this can't actually be done. You do not live in a country and that's it, thinking that one country and another exist without the one changing the other is idealism, you live on a planet called Earth, and meanwhile there are borders which define were you actually live, these borders do not actually exists physically, they're imaginary lines drawn out by states, that's it. I don't live in Spain, to put an example, I live in a part of this planet Earth which is called Spain, this means that I'm cohabitating this planet with germans, with russians, with french people, with italians, and with... los temibles americanos, and such. All of those people are my neighbours inside this planet Earth, even los ogros de las americas.
>And what the fuck has this to do with the soviet union.
Ok, so if you have followed me through this (which I don't think you've done, since I'm not following that much either tbh, it's too complicated for my head), then you will have noticed one thing. The bourgeoisie was eliminated in the Soviet Union, yea, but it wasn't eliminated abroad the entire planet, the actaul palce were everyone lives. This is, the oppression against the bourgeoisie was still in place because there still was bourgeoisie, and for such a thing to be accomplished, it was needed to still have the classist organization that is the state. I don't know who said this, but some marxist (I think it was Marx itself) said that the state can, sometimes, put itself as the dominant order when society allows it, as it happened with some king in france (Louis XIV?) or something, that there were societies in which the state became the class that dominated both the upper classes and the lower classes, instead of being dominated by the upper classes, in times of crisis. So, with this said, you could put the state in a position of, let's say "honorary class", despite being an organized organization designated for class oppression and not a class itself, it can behave as a class of it's own, as the people put into commanding the state do have conflicting interests against those that the state rules over. Of course, it depends on who is leading this state, but over the course of time there will be someone who will undo socialism for it's own profit. No matter how many Stalins and Lenins you have, time will go on and those Stalins and Lenins will die out, and will end up substituted by Gorbachevs and Yeltsins, which, influenced by being the head of state, go into profiting from it, undoing socialism. Politicians are the upper class's best friend, and this is something that will never change until we reach communism and the role of the politician is substituted by the role of administrator, just a cog inside of the machine that is the human race.
Now that I've explained all of that, let's go to the issue in hand. Why did the soviet union fall?
Because it didn't eliminate the bourgeoisie in it's totality. The external bourgeoisie continued funding the fifth column inside of the Soviet Union, and from this it was only a matter of time for the Soviet Union to collapse unto itself, as the interests of the state and the interests of the proletariat are contrary to each other.
Of course, you people will call me a dumbass anarchist, but this is not true, as I do consider that the state is a necessary tool to undo the bourgeoisie, the state is both this honorary class I've talked about and also a tool of class oppression. If you had a anarchist country, this country would, obviously, have a state in order to repress the agents of the capitalist class, be it internal or external, and to suppress the capitalist class itself. the CNT controlled territory inside Spain did go out against the bourgeoisie collectivising their stuff, that is, in itself, a state, be it direct democracy, be it a worker's union, be it a vanguard party, if there's an organization that supresses a class for the sake of the other, it is a state. The state is necessary in going from capitalism to communism in this stage called socialism. The thing, is, that this state needs to topple down all of the bourgeoisie in order to actually be dismantled.
So, what should the Soviet union had done in order to have actually survived?
Make what it was supposed to do, eradicate the rest of the bourgeoisie from the human race, like the parasitic cancer that it is. The only way you will be able to actually establish communism is once the capitalist class has been erradicated from this planet, and time is of the essence. What I'm saying is that what Stalin should have made is not go to war with Japan and instead of conquering Manchukou, conquer the rest of Europe. Without Manchukou conquered, the japanese wouldn't have surrendered to the americans and thus the americans would had to go all in against Japan, going d-day against a country which was fanatical and didn't care about death. This wouldn't be so hard to justify, as the UK and the US were already getting nazi war criminals under their ranks. Just some misundertanding and then you got it, war. The soviet front and the allied front in Europe were totally different, the USSR had been fighting against 80% of the Nazis, meanwhile the UK and the US had been fighting against 20% of the nazis, this is, the allied front was a lot more weaker than the soviet front, and by this I don't mean in industrial capacity, I mean in literal manpower put in the field. The soviet conquest of 1946 of western Europe would have been a walk in the park compared to the suffering of the nazi front.
What I'm saying is that Stalin was a pussy, and because of this we don't have FALC.
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Book Review: The Psychology Of Conspiracy Theories
Book Review: The Psychology Of Conspiracy Theories by Jan-Willem van Prooijen
In this age of Qanon I thought this would be an interesting book to read. The author is a Dutch Psychologist and backs up the assertions with sources.
VERY SHORT Summary: Conspiracy theories are not the result of pathology or mental illness but the misdirection of normal human impulses to recognize patterns and agency in people and events, combined with a belief-based mindset (correlated with Religiosity and Superstition). This happens in times of war, social upheaval, or rapid social or technological change. The solution is more education, as well as transparency in institutions and accountability.
It's an interesting book, although the author seems to include some centrist political muh both sides waffling, although it is apparent that even though he mentions left wing conspiracies and socialist regimes in passing, his focus is on the far right generally.
Some conspiracy theories are true and some are false. This is a book about psychoanalyzing conspiracy beliefs, not judging the accuracy of those beliefs.
The idea is that conspiracy theories are not based on some sort of mental illness or pathology, but a normal human reaction towards dealing with and/or explaining fear and uncertainty, particularly in periods of social upheaval or rapid social/technological change. People who react to this in a conspiratorial way tend to have personality types that are based on intuition, snap/gut judgements, and heuristics as opposed to careful analytic thinking, and also more inclined to religion or superstitious thinking (tarot cards, astrology, etc.). This is also correlated with lower levels of education. People with a “belief-oriented” mindset are more distrustful of others in daily life, and have relatively extreme or non-mainstream political views. The objects of conspiracy theory often involve groups of people or institutions that the person already dislikes or distrusts. Belief in conspiracy theories can itself cause additional anxiety, exacerbating the problem.
There are also normal human biases that play into these beliefs: proportionality bias, the idea that a world changing political event must have an equally large conspiracy behind it. Also, illusory pattern perception, i.e. mistaking correlation for causation. People with fringe or extreme politics are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories.
People who have a strong sense of in-group identity, and a strong sense of out-group threat also are more prone to conspiracy theories.
What reduces conspiratorial thinking is by increasing analytic/rational type thinking (more education) and reducing fear and uncertainty (increasing transparency, accountability, and participation/democracy).
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>What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges. Accordingly, the individual producer receives back from society – after the deductions have been made – exactly what he gives to it. What he has given to it is his individual quantum of labor. For example, the social working day consists of the sum of the individual hours of work; the individual labor time of the individual producer is the part of the social working day contributed by him, his share in it. He receives a certificate from society that he has furnished such-and-such an amount of labor (after deducting his labor for the common funds); and with this certificate, he draws from the social stock of means of consumption as much as the same amount of labor cost. The same amount of labor which he has given to society in one form, he receives back in another.
Where has this been achieved?
Are all of the successes from the called "socialist" states been a product of a mode of production that isn't socialist?
Was there still wage labour? Was there still profit? Was there still generalized commodity production? Was money functioning as labour vouchers?
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How is socialism feasible despite America being so split up and individualist?
Seriously, we have no communities, maybe at best our workplace/school, gym, Church, political party, etc. but I don't even know my neighbors. How would socialist organisation be possible when people are just so hostile towards groups?
And then, don't even start on how absurdly individualist we are. Everyone sees themselves as the most important thing to walk the Earth, we can see this with Covid perfectly.
Seriously, how is it possible?
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Doesn't revisionism being a threat mean that something is very fundamentally flawed?
If your system is even capable of being dismantled by a handful of people at the head of it, doesn't that mean your system is fundamentally flawed in the first place? Doesn't the simple existence of the constant threat of "revisionism" prove at least some of the anarchist criticisms of the state?
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Is it actual socialism or is it not?
Why cant you guys figure out the actual definition of socialism? I am getting really conflicted because left and right people are saying "NOOO NOT REAL SOCIALISM!!1111!!111!! THE STATE IS THE MONOPOLY NOW INSTEAD OF THE CAPITALISTS" while others are saying "NOOOOOO THAT IS REAL SOCIALISM"
Please guys help me out!
Lets say the state owns all of the industries and utilities and the workers controls the state via the government and everyone gets a share of the workplace through a social wealth fund.... wouldn't that be socialism? What's wrong with worker coops? If worker coops controls the entire economy through every sector wouldn't that also be socialism?
So what is it /leftypol/? Am I a counter-revolutionary vaushite for saying worker coops are a realistic goal? Please don't scold me.
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On the NEET question
We need to deal with this anti-work attitude some folks on here have. A lot of you simply want communism because you don't want to work.
This is a fundamentally anti-proletarian, wrongheaded, bad, cringe way of thinking.
Humans have been working since their creation. Work is part of who we are.
Idleness causes depression, agrarian socialism is better than what you are advocating ffs.
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Naxal Insurgency in india
Im conflicted, are these guys based? Or are they just like bandits?
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Why is no one talking about this? Are they in any way related to Baathism? Should socialists support them?
Some context: Western Sahara is being occupied by the Kingdom of Morocco and the Polisario Front wants to liberate it.
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Poor people have the right to help themselves.
I'm not a communist, but I do agree with the main Marxist axiom: we must kill the rich and seize their capital for ourselves. Poor people have the right to help themselves. Theft/looting is morally justified. Generally poor people are the victims of the society, which left them poor. So theft is self defense.
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/Beardtube/ Growing Thread
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New Athiesm didn't go far enough
It's fashionable nowdays to shit on 2000s/early 2010s "New Athiesm" and considering how lots of it's former adherents turned into either radlibs or gamergate-sargon le rational bros I can say thats fair.
But you have to understand New Atheism as a backlash against conservative evangelical christianity in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, started by Reagan and Culminating in someone like George W Bush saying that God told him to invade Iraq:
>Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former prime minister and now Palestinian President: "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."
>And "now again", Mr Bush is quoted as telling the two, "I feel God's words coming to me: 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God, I'm gonna do it."
You had shit like the "Satanic Panic" which was basically the original Q-anon, except instead of a bunch of internet conspiracists you had mainstream journalists, news outlets, legitimate psychologists/psychiatrists and even the police taking it seriously. People went to jail for years, even decades before being proven innocent. They literally put the band Judas Priest on trial for "secretly putting satanic messages backwards in muh rock music" which some family blamed for "making" their kid kill themselves.
Younger people/Zoomers have no idea of the influence, power and absolute fucking INSANITY
of evangelical christian conservatives had from the Reagan to the Bush junior era. When Marilyn Manson would go on stage and rip up a bible or something it wasn't about hating the idea of God but pushing back against this mainstream shit of a culture which was abstinence only sex ed, unironic creationism, fundamentalism, Biblical literalism, anti gay, basically calling anything fun (dungeons and dragons board games or pokemon or whatever) was "Satanic".
Growing up I literally a friends parents who wouldn't let them shop for computer parts for a gaming PC online because, according to them, online shopping was "of the devil" (They weren't joking). In school they taught us that Condoms fail 80% of the time and that above all SEX was EVIL because fucking outside marriage was a sin. Gay kids were in the closet and if not their parents would send them to a camp or whatever to make them not gay. Bullying was frequent.
All that shit we see as cringe radlib shit now (Witches, "SJW" hairdye etc.) was actually edgy. In fact you can see the SJWs of the early 2010s as basically millennial kids rebelling against each and every thing that their christian evangelical conservative parents taught them.
Force you to go to church -> Become an Atheist or Wiccan/Witch larper
The gays are going to hell -> LGBT rights
Be patriotic about the troops invading Iraq or you're an ungrateful faggot who hates AMURICAN FREEDUM
-> anti imperialism
Unregulated Markets fix everything -> Occupy Wall Street
Abstinence only sex-ed -> Hookup culture
Obama is a Socialist Communist -> Actually, after looking into that Marx stuff he had some good points.
It was extremely tiresome, how much American daily life (and even in the BLUE STATES under Bush) centered around christianity, people quoting the bible and talking about the lord and shit all the time, like a good 25% of the day even was spent talking about christian stuff. In this context, where evangelicals were going absolutely batshit with their crap, you can see why a militant rejection of that stuff was needed. In a society where evangelical christian magical-thinking was widespread and pervasive and used to dismiss everything from climate change (the world don't change unless GOD WILLS IT, we can't change the world as mere HUMANS) to the economic crisis of '08 (literally had people say that they thought that its actually a "spiritual crisis" and that if everyone believed in God the economy would heal itself - lol). To shitting on minorities like LGBT as sinners, parents would literally kick their teenage kid out of the house and make them homeless and totally disown them. To justifying the Iraq war itself as some sort of holy crusade against the muslims (Bush was careful to never say Islam was the enemy but PLENTY of average christian burgers believed this, and sort of still do).
Hot take: New Atheism needed to happen.
Hotter take: it didn't go far enough.
I'm jealous of post-soviet states whose former government made an effort to stamp this shit out. I'm 100% convinced hardcore evangelical christianity is responsible for tons of problems the country has, not just in causing them, but in preventing people from actually converging to a solution
, and I don't give a fuck if you call it idealist. Shit like Q-anon and climate change denial NEVER could have happened if a full third of the country wasn't brain rotted evangelical boomers who don't give a fuck about the climate because they literally think Jesus is going to come back for armageddon any day now, and that we need to support Israel because once all the jews go back there, armageddon can start.
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New Multitude- leftypol related magazine
I want to ask this communities advice on how to proceed. Firstly, I still think there's a great wealth here. leftypol's strength is a great community from around the world and people who I believe have something unique to offer as far as leftist analysis goes. Leftypol's weakness is that this strength is fleeting, hence the Nm project.
1.While medium is ok I think it's time to move the magazine to its own website which will make it a hell of a lot more professional looking and attract more readers.
2. I have no tech skills. I need someone to help me build the website, linking the domain name etc. I have asked on /tech/ but I got mostly responses of "learn it yourself it's easy" sorry but I don't have the time to do that, which is why I hosted on medium in the first place. Is there anyone out there who could assist with this
3. getting higher quality posts. I think the idea of grabbing effort posts from leftypol is still valid, but it takes a lot of work to edit these into a quality I am happy with. Many of the current articles are curated debates, etc. I think they are good, but I also think it would be great to have some original essays too. We have some from Brazil anon and Singapore anon. I would love to work more with people here who have something unique to say. So I would like to offer something like $100 for an original essays/articles and various amounts for artwork too. I could fund this for while but..
4.this would also mean that long term the project would need a patreon or something.I would actually like to do it so the artists and contributors got a fair share of any patreon money, so they could continue earning. Anyway this discussion is moot without first getting a reputation for quality and unique posts.
5. the name. So many people thought that many "New Multitude" was some kind of Hardt and Negri offshoot..I guess that's understandable, but it's not. What do you think about the name..I was also toying with the name "Swinis Multiude" which is the name the arch-conservative Edmund Burke gave to the common folk of England as an insult and which they reclaimed in jest.
So yeah...Let me know what I should do. originally I set up a email for work, but quickly realised this wasn't a good plan. the best way to contact me is through twitter messaging twitter.com/newmultitude
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Jacobin - Incel reactionaries are created by economic downfall
safe to say this thread has reached it's conclusion
>Even a glance at the "incel" subculture reveals vile misogyny, reactionary politics of all kinds, and multiple acts of horrific violence. The documentary TFW No GF also emphasizes that in part, that subculture is a product of the breakdown of institutions, the disappearance of decent economic opportunities, and a broader loss of meaning in America.
>In all this, the 2008 financial crisis and the failing neoliberal order are essential hallmarks for Moyer. Amid the crosshatch of issues at play for the film’s subjects — childhood traumas, ailing mental health, awkward and often fragile masculinity — TFW NO GF makes it impossible to ignore the broader dynamics caused by economic crisis.
>“The future that was sold to me is a complete lie, so I’m just going to do nothing instead,” explains Kyle, one of the film’s subjects.
>TFW NO GF is a portrait of young men who are facing a future with no long-term economic opportunity and little in the way of meaningful democratic engagement or collective civic life. In particular, Moyer’s exploration of the American landscape draws our attention to the effects of the 2007–8 housing-market collapse and the subsequent austerity politics that so devastated public-sector institutions like education. As Kantbot puts it:
>People used to graduate and go get a job, and that used to work pretty well for them. But now that’s impossible, you have no experience in anything, you’re from a small-town background and you don’t have any connections, so you end up living back at home, and your parents are telling you to apply to McDonald’s or something because it’s better than you staying at home.
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post your rare images of your favourite lefties here!
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Russia’s Communist Party rejects results of some gubernatorial elections after its candidates were barred from running
Russia's Communists said on Monday that they were refusing to accept the results of the country's local elections in regions where their candidates were not allowed to run. The Communists are Russia's largest opposition party.“We do not recognize the elections that took place in the regions where our candidates were removed,” said Gennady Zyuganov, the party leader. His nominees were denied registration in five regional contests.
Communist veteran Roza Deshpande passes away at 91
Veteran communist leader and former Lok Sabha member Roza Deshpande died at her residence here on Saturday afternoon due to old age, sources said.Deshpande, 91, was the daughter of Shripad Amrit Dange, one of the founders of the Communist Party of India.
Colorado police conduct militarized arrests of Party for Socialism and Liberation members
As part of an attempted frame-up, the protesters were arrested and jailed in a series of coordinated militarized raids while they were out in public or at home. Those arrested face a plethora of charges, which, if they are convicted, could mean decades in prison for their alleged roles in four protests and vigils against police violence that took place over the summer.
Peru's Congress Rejects Dismissal of President Vizcarra
The impeachment was promoted by the Congress after the Vizcarra's alleged participation in a corruption scandal."I have my head held high and my conscience is clear," President Vizcarra said after the Parliament's decision as he added that we must move forward in the fight against the pandemic in the country.
Pentagon sending troops to Syria after clashes between U.S., Russian military
The Pentagon is deploying a small number of U.S. troops to Syria after a series of escalating encounters between the U.S. and Russian militaries, according to three U.S. defense officials
U.S., Guyana to launch joint maritime patrols near disputed Venezuela border
The United States and Guyana will begin joint maritime patrols aimed at drug interdiction near the South American country’s disputed border with crisis-stricken Venezuela, the U.S. secretary of state and Guyana’s new president said on Friday.
India and Pakistan Clash on Border As China Conflict Looms Heavy
India has engaged in new clashes across its long-disputed border with Pakistan, while it remains locked in another standoff on its border with China, one that threatens to erupt into a new regional conflict in Asia.
Thailand protests: Thousands join huge rally demanding reforms
Thousands of people have protested in the Thai capital Bangkok calling for reform of the political system, including the role of the monarchy.It was one of the biggest protests in years with at least 15,000 people, police said. "Down with feudalism, long live the people," chanted some.
Neo-Nazis in German police issue new threats
Among the list of predominantly female victims are lawyers, politicians, journalists, students and artists—a total of at least 71 threatening notes to 27 persons and institutions in eight different German states.
Haftar announces conditional lifting of Libya oil blockade
"We have decided to resume oil production and export on condition of a fair distribution of revenues" and guarantee they "will not be used to support terrorism", Haftar said on television on Friday.
WHO says parts of Europe reporting ‘worrying’ rise in coronavirus hospitalizations
Some European countries are reporting a rapid rise in Covid-19 hospitalizations, a “worrying trend” ahead of the influenza season approaching the Northern Hemisphere, said Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit.
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Anyone care to make up a graphic to go with this?
>Kyle Rittenhouse, also known by his real name Kahohl "Muhammad" bin Rittari, was part of a muslim rape gang that Rosenbaum was undercover infiltrating under the order of attourney general william barr. While Rosenbaum was on his way to the Kenosha FBI field office to report his findings and file a warrant, rittenhouse ambushed him and killed him under cover of night. The Deep State then fabricated court documents to smear rosenbaum as a pedophile, but the FBI can't publicly deny it without putting their other agents at risk.
Circulate at your own leisure
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Love is the most powerful ideology
I finally found the answer: Love is the most powerful ideology. Let me explain: What is the most important thing in the lives of people? It's the well being of their loved ones, their friends, family, spouse etc. You personally might adhere to a specific (political) ideology, but would you really sacrifice the security of your loved ones for it? Would you be able to kill the people who you deeply love, for your political convictions? As long you are not a remorseless psychopath (in this case, you wouldn't even be able to feel love anyway), you will always drop your political convictions, to save your loved ones. This is why love trumps every other ideology.
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ITT: most retarded anticommunist "arguments"
For me as someone who lives in a post-Soviet country the most brainlet and anti-reality argument has got to be "COMMUNISM IS ANTI-CULTURE"
My family still has shelves with 100s of books they got in the USSR, real books like obscure classical works or science ones. You CAN'T find most of them in stores anymore because they have been replaced with lowest common denominator schlock like 50 shades of grey or cheap fantasy novels. You have to go to a specialized library to find books you could buy at any bookstore in the USSR. Little surprise that the USSR used to be "the most reading country".
Socialism built and supported theaters, museums, cinemas etc and most importantly it made them available to the entire population instead of a small leisurely elite. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to call the USSR the most cultured country in history if the criteria is the total number of people with access to "high culture" like classical music and theater. Don't even get me started on Soviet contributions to the art world like Prokofiev, Tarkovsky etc.
Classical arts were preserved and promoted, folk culture was supported too. The only culture socialism "destroyed" was religion and culture of the ruling classes like decadent balls. That's what reactionaries truly bemoan. It doesn't matter that 99% of the population went from ignorant peasants to educated people who can appreciate intellectual and aesthetic pursuits, a few nobles couldn't have their shitty dances and lavish palaces all to themselves anymore, so CULTURE WAS LITERALLY DESTROYED!!11
You'd have to be completely ignorant of history and reality to say "socialism is anti-culture", or be a lying reactionary who by "culture" means "when you praise Jesus and kill nigs". It's especially annoying to hear this from Russian right-wing zoomers who know nothing but fortnite and low-brow americanized tv entertainment, and somehow blame socialism for this state of affairs instead of capitalist restoration.
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>ruled for 25 years over a territory of 22,402,200 km2
>population under his rule: 150million in 1927 - 196million before WW2
>average population number under his rule: 173 000 000
>3.3 million excess deaths under his rule (executions, gulags, etc. not counting the holo and the domor)
>math: 173,000,000 / 3,300,000 = 52.42
Every 52th citizen died under Stalin.
>Time And Territory Adjusted Excess Deaths (TATAED - a term I just made up, measured in metric units of "horror")
>math: (every citizen dieded + time) * horror constant [100,000] / territory = (25+52) * 100,000 / 22,402,200 = 0.3437
TATAED: 0.34 horror, or 34 centihorror
>(un)ruled for 3 whole years over a territory of 32,108 km2
>average population under their (un)rule: 2.8million
>excess deaths (executions, gulags, etc.) between 38000 and 72344, average: 55000
>math: 2,800,000 / 55,000 = 50.9
Every 51th citizen died under anarchism.
>Time And Territory Adjusted Excess Deaths: (3+51)*100000/32,108 = 168.1823
TATAED: 168.18 horror, or 1.6 hectohorror
>Stalin TATAED / Catalan TATAED = 168.18 / 0.34 = 494.64
QED: Anarchist Catalonia was 495 times more horrific than Stalin's USSR.
BRB, I'm off to measure the Workers Sent to Space (WS2S) to population ratio...
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Who poisoned this guy? The West especially Germany tries to pin this on Putin to cancel Nord Stream II to buy fracking gas from the burgers again. German military allegedly proved that he was poisoned with Novichok. It makes no sense to me that Putin would do this now an bury Nord Stream, and the Western media runs headlines that he was the most popular opposition politician in Russia which is hard to believe.
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GUYS, GUYS, I FIGURED OUT HOW TO LEGALLY TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A DIRECT DEMOCRACY
There's no constitutional limit on the size of the supreme court, right?
So we pack the court with EVERY CITIZEN IN THE COUNTRY.
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The Chinese Century
ITT we celebrate the coming Chinese century. Infographics, webms all welcome.
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"The USSR isn't/wasn't socialist because it didn't fit my hypothetical imagined society that exists in my head"
On the one hand we have reality which was the USSR
On the other hand we have the perfect ideal utopia that exists in my mind
Is it not the essence of anti-materialism to say that reality is wrong for not conforming to the ideas in my head?
I understand why anarchists do this, but why do marxists do so as well? Is it not easier to recognize the USSR as a flawed socialism?
Based Dickblast got my back
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Pick one or rate it
Anchored: Extremely low effort
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How this A.I became a communist
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This cunt was one of the victims' friends (steven something or other was the victim). Clearly a fucking racist cunt, friends may have been as well. Spread this around, comrades. Also, here is the archived thread for reference. This kevin cunt went full mask off in there.
He then proceeded to dox his own ass like the clown he is.
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Ive observed something really weird;
be it b-ok, libgen, amazon or youtube, i cant find anything proper on the polish peoples republic, no matter where i look;
does anyone know why that happened and or have anything about the PRL? so confused
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Moving to /leftypol/.
I'm planning on moving this board from /pol/. Mostly, I have been using 4chan since 2010 and I found out that the site is totally bought and bias towards certain people. Makes you think, yeah I know.
Recently I just got banned for asking 'What is /pol' anymore?' and boom, banned for month and they add,
<"Hey comrade, you have 32 bans now lol"
And they never do that to anyone.
Face it, /pol/ is dead, this board is better and safer to use, I don't care the drama with GETchan and anything. I'll rather be with communists, tankies, vaushfags and mostly leftists then be on /pol/ at this point. 4chan is dead, take it from a oldfag. People that use the site now are popular faggots who do art, wanna make attention or just use it because its so mainstream. 4chan is turning into Reddit, that is a fact. It's bullshit, it's filled with shills, glows and mostly feds fighting other feds all the time to the point that just asking about the site can get you permanent banned. I remember back long ago around 2012, you can ask the jannies and mods about the site and they would make it better. Now if you ask about it, you just get shot and killed, and the site gets worse and worse to use. I have been lurking this site for a week now and I found out that this place is better to use. Hell, there are more redpills and mostly discussion on here then /pol/ alone. /pol/ mostly just shitposts and challenge other faggots to see who can make the worst thread then another. And no, I have been banned from that site longer then a month, hell it's even vacation and peaceful at times.
But the point is dead, /pol/ is dying and loosing influence, and they cannot admit it because it will ruin their ego. Mostly all of them will be traced by FEMA or arrested if they start anything on there by a undercover glow or agent, or even better, they would be doxxed by transgender people and they will whine about tendies and shitpost when their SSN gets found. Either way, im moving here, I'll just lurk. Send me to /gulag/ if you want labor, but still, I prefer to be here.
<THERE ISN'T A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN BE ANONYMOUS ANYMORE, NOT ON THAT SITE. IT'S TOO MAINSTREAM. FREEDOM IS DEAD THERE, IT COLLAPSED ON ITSELF AND THE PLACE IS IRONIC.
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Putin has liquidated another opponent
Maxim began his political career as a Nazi, but after the first sentence for "hate speech", he finally understood who is the real enemy, so he converted into something closer to Communism, and, instead of bullying Muslims, began advocating shoplifting and looting - huge danger to the rich. That was enough for them to kill him, after they have failed to discredit him (FSB for example spread rumors that Maxim is a prison snitch, who reported on his fellow thieves).
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You can't be socialist Just because you are Transgender.
I have noticed there is an "LGBT" culture that takes lightly and Fetishizes politics
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First Published: The Marxist, No. 15, Autumn 1970
Transcription, Editing and Markup: Sam Richards and Paul Saba
Copyright: This work is in the Public Domain under the Creative Commons Common Deed. You can freely copy, distribute and display this work; as well as make derivative and commercial works. Please credit the Encyclopedia of Anti-Revisionism On-Line as your source, include the url to this work, and note any of the transcribers, editors & proofreaders above.
’Comrade Lenin draws the following conclusion; “Marx had no doubt as to the subordinate position of the national as compared to the labour question.” Here are only two lines but they are decisive. And this is what some of our comrades who are more zealous than wise should drill into their heads.’ (Stalin)
MARXIST-LENINISTS see everything (right up to the realisation of Communism) from the point of view of class struggle. Therefore we must ask ’what class interest does nationalism serve, in what historical period and region?’
To assist us in this class analysis let us examine in depth the fundamental tenet of Marxism-Leninism on the national question.
Marxists proclaim the right of all nations to self-determination. This is not an abstract bourgeois legal or ’moral’ thing we recognise but purely a method whereby the bourgeois nationalistic mystification can be readily disposed of, so that the most fundamental contradiction between capital and labour, be laid bare for all the masses to see and grapple with:
’The obligations of Social-Democrats (Communists) who defend the interests of the proletariat and the rights of a nation which consists of various classes, are two different things.
’In fighting for the right of nations to self-determination the aim of Social-Democrats is to put an end to the policy of national oppression, to render it impossible and thereby to remove the grounds of hostility between nations, to take the edge off that hostility and to reduce it to a minimum.
’This is what essentially distinguishes the policy of the class-conscious proletariat from the policy of the bourgeoisie, which attempts to aggravate and fan the national struggle and to prolong and sharpen the national movement.
’And this is why the class-conscious proletariat cannot rally under the “national flag” of the bourgeoisie.’ (Stalin, emphasis added)
This is why ’our program (for self-determination) refers only to cases where such a movement (for secession) is actually in existence.’ (Lenin). The last thing Marxist-Leninists do is to fan such a movement. This is only common-sense, since we are trying to dispose of national prejudices generally. Anything else would be absurdly self-defeating.
Now, if we assume for the moment that the Scots are still a ’nation’ in the Marxist (objective) sense (’A nation is a historically evolved stable community of language’ [Gaelic, English, Lallans, Arcadian?] ’territory, economic life’ [Union of Crowns 1603,Union of Parliament 1707] ’and psychological make-up manifested in a community of culture’.) (Stalin) would the movement for Scottish autonomy be objectively progressive? Would it aid the class struggle against capitalism-imperialism or divert the masses from that struggle? This is the only possible criterion for Marxist-Leninists.
An answer to this must be based on investigation, not on subjective conceptions, and as historical materialists we have to examine the whole background of nationalism historically to understand its present role in the world and particularly in Britain.
We find that nationalism in its modern form dates from about the French Revolution of 1789. It is well understood that this revolution was a bourgeois anti-feudal revolution and the beginning of a series of such revolutions throughout Europe. It is also well known how nationalism was engendered in that revolution, Frenchmen being encouraged to regard the Dew Republican state as their own, since all were citizens, in contra-distinction to the old Monarchist attitude of the state being of, and belonging to, the King -’L’etat c’est moi.’ Now (1789) it was Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite (initially Propriete) now one was proud to be French. Thus, ’Vive le Roi’ became ’Vive la France, Vive la Republique’ in the myth that all men being equal (constitutionally) all had a community of interest in ’France, La Patrie’ and of course in her economic development. This ideological formulation (nationalism) was and is always necessary for the bourgeoisie in setting up capitalist states. It is a key part of the bourgeois superstructure, pinning the economic base in position for the full development of capitalism. By this device, although capitalists might own the means of production and live in idle luxury, the proletariat sells its labour 14 hours daily for a subsistance wage – still all had an overriding interest in the preservation of ’their nation’ and in the domination of other nations.
It is clear therefore that the concept of nationalism at that time (18th Century) was part of the then progressive anti-feudal revolution, whereby the bourgeoisie became the ruling class, replacing the landed aristocracy.
That this device of nationalism is used by the rising bourgeoisie in its struggle to overthrow feudalism and establish capitalism is further proved in studying subsequent bourgeois revolutions (e.g. Central Europe, 1848).
However, that this is a practice not only confined to the European bourgeoisie of the last few centuries, can be seen in the contemporary anti-feudal/anti-imperialist struggles as waged in Egypt and Algeria (Arab Nationalism), China (Chinese Nationalism -while the revolution there was led by the bourgeoisie) Indonesia, etc.
’Throughout the world, the period of the final victory of capitalism over feudalism has been linked with national movements.’ (Lenin)
’Therefore the tendency of every national movement (my emphasis) is towards the formation of national states (original emphasis) under which these requirements of modern capitalism are best satisfied.’(Lenin)
Hence we find in the liberation movement today, in Asia, Africa and Latin America, since the struggle there is at this stage mostly against the local feudal aristocracy supported by foreign imperialism, that the progressive forces can and do include the local (national) bourgeoisie in a fight to rid the country of feudal and imperialist domination. While the working class and the peasantry are involved in this struggle in order to clear the way for socialism, the local bourgeoisie are of course only taking part in order to gain scope for the development of their own capitalism in the country concerned. However, when still at the anti-feudal/colonial stage, the struggle embraces nearly all the classes pursuing ,their different but temporarily concurrent class interests, (proletariat, peasantry, petit bourgeoisie, big bourgeoisie) with the exception of the feudalists and comprador bourgeoisie; the struggle thereby taking on a ’national’ character, i.e. the struggle is one which is ’nation-wide’, it is a struggle of national liberation. We therefore see that the nationalism of this struggle is an expedient developed as a result of the prevailing economic/political conditions within the three continents.
Thus, in no way is this situation that prevailing in modern Europe/North America.
Nationalism, as we have seen, is always the tool of the bourgeoisie, historically (1789, 1848, etc.) and in the 2Oth Century also (Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Falangist Spain, etc.) At present in the three continents there can be a brief identity of interest between the national bourgeoisie and the working masses against feudalism/ imperialism, and hence this nationalism for the moment can play a progressive role. However, now that the progressive role in Europe of the bourgeoisie is long finished, so too is the progressive role of nationalism and only its reactionary role remains.
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Coronavirus vs 9/11
Why the fuck was picrel too stupid to exploit the pandemic?
after 9/11 Bush's approval rating went up to over 90%.
Trump could have easily have spun it like "Chinese bioweapon, the whole country needs to rally behind me" by taking the pandemic 150% serious even to using it as an excuse to take over shit. Instead he tried to play it off like no big deal.
If he played it the right way he could have pulled a GWB and gotten a second term + passed some dystopian laws like muh patriot act on steroids to grack down on antifa, even portray BLM rioters as Marxist Chinese sympathizers the same way anyone who questioned Bush was "on the side of the terrorists".
Imagine if after 9/11 Bush said terrorism is no big deal, people would shit on him like there's no tomorrow which is exactly whats happening to Trump.
If you look in Europe, right wing populists like Orban are using the virus as an excuse.
Is Trump literally more stupid than Bush?
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Anyone studying neuroscience here? how can we use this to help the revolution.
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Is life in Cuba good? There is still communism and planned economy there right? Are they doing fine?
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Who do you read wrt the Palestine situation, anons? I've recently been reading and watching Finkelstein Is the Zionist Destroyer /ourguy/? again. Who else is recommended reading from a leftist perspective on the topic?
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Should I celebrate the USSR/Maoist China?
I dunno how to really put this question without getting yelled at, but, I'll just come out with it, I feel like socialism and perhaps even the world in general were harmed more by the existence of those two countries than if those revolutions had never happened. I know that they brought many people out of poverty but they also killed millions and basically gave the capitalists a blank check to smear socialism forever. I find it hard to feel positive about leftist history when to me it feels as if it was all for nothing. For example I tried watching 'Reds' with a friend and kinda just found it depressing to know how everything turned out.
I honestly feel like any government/system without democracy can't really be considered any kind of example of socialism or communism so I find it hard to be enthused or really defend the above nations. I'm willing to be proven wrong though.
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How many zoomers are on leftypol?
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Why didn't the Roman Empire industrialize and develop capitalism?
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We currently live in a era of technological stagnation, at least compared the rate of technical progression from a few decades ago.
Can somebody explain why this is ?
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KIM IL SUNG and SOEKARNO
Soekarno visit to North Korea
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Might as well start a thread about this. I just ran through a pdf search on all of Marx and Engels' works for "own the means" and it came out (shockingly, if you are an RDW fag), that neither of them advocated for such a thing.
Literally one result, lol. Spoopy.
Kinda makes you think about Proudhonist/RDW-tier "workers own the MoP" vs. Marxist "socialization of production." It's almost as if 90% of the so called "radical left" today was merely a LARPING faggot, or something. It's almost as if Marx was a statist, or something as well.
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Esoteric Hitlerism General: Satanic Nazis
This is all the evidence we put together in the last thread, in order, for any newcomers. I'm gonna add in a few bits for context as well and lines of enquiry without sources that we might want to pursue
>leader of neo nazi group "the base" a fed
>various themes involving the alt right, their connections to the intelligence services, and the esoteric hitlerist connections in both, alongside pedophile connections
> a video describing the Order of the Nine Angles
>videos of 09A ritual stuff
>AWD Pedo Cop with probable links to esoteric groups
>National Socialist Underground
>Regarding the nine murders of migrants with the same weapon, the investigations focused almost exclusively on the victims and their alleged and actually non-existent ties to organized crime, the “Turkish mafia”, drug dealing, the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and so on. In the murder cases where police investigated the possibility that these acts might have been committed for right-wing motives, they did so in a very superficial manner and leads in this direction were hardly ever followed up.
>The same pattern can be seen in the investigations of the bomb attacks. In all three cases, which the police did not regard as connected, the police looked for suspects close to the victims or in connection with organized crime, and neo-Nazi suspects were never seriously considered. In the case of the bomb attack in Keupstraße in Cologne, the police denied the terrorist character of the attack and yet again the bombing was attributed to organized crime. This denial contradicted internal analysis of the secret service and the police considering a racist motive.
>Most of the 15 robberies were believed to be connected as the offenders were always two young men fleeing the crime scene on bikes. But no connection was ever made between the robberies and the murders and/or bombings, despite the fact that many witnesses had seen two young men with bikes close to the scene of the respective crimes.
>Marx Dutroux connection
>One of the leaders of the Belgian pedophile ring was Benoit de Bonvoisin  , who was associated with several secret services. [13²] According to various sources, he held a high position at Gladio, these statements are corroborated by the fact that during a house search, which he carried out in 1990, a draft for a strategy of tension was found. This strategy paper included (supposedly random) attacks on supermarkets.
>09A causes a split in atomwaffen
>Nazis being covered up for by german intelligence again
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Was self management in Yugoslavia unmarxist?
I was reading Hoxha's critique of Yugoslav self management and he makes the claim that it was unmarxist because the workers directly controlled the means of production, rather than controlling it through the state. Was this true?
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"WOWZERS GUYZ DONTCHA KNO GOTTA VOOT BIDEN TRUMP IS LITERALLY ADOLF HITLER"
How can anyone believe at this point that Trump will be the next Hitler? Are they serious? Just hysterical? Trump is so obviously too stupid, unambitious, and plain lazy to ever do the things Hitler did. Like, he's willing to kill, sure, he'll do underhanded shit and tries to rule by decree, but I mean....Hitler was the absolute ruler of Germany within two months of being put in office. Trump, meanwhile, had his most far-right, fashoid element, his campaign buddy who was himself a moron Bannon ousted pretty damn quick. From there Trump was basically boxed in by the neocons and has more or less been a rubber stamp ever since but also a retard that's fucked up so many of America's endeavors that America itself was already too decrepit to pull off. Honestly, the best proof Trump could never be a Hitler isthe fact that for a split moment he had a decent popular base going but he utterly failed to mobilize it mainly because he was lazy and didn't give a shit. Then his own nutso rightoid fans couldn't help but pop their corks off in 2017 which more or less collapsed their growing momentum. If the horrors of the Third Reich arrive it will be on the inertia of this own piece of shit empire's decay. Hell, if Trump was what libs think the election would literally be meaningless, if they think he's such a threat why would the election matter? If he was the threat they believed he could have legitimately used this virus to gain an insane foothold, instead he utterly flubbed it. What do libs see in him?
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Hello leftypol, please help me
>german zoomer, enjoying my time on the internet
>interact with a few "leftist" americans on discord
>"I wanna be a leninist but like, without the marxism"
>"the private business owners!"
>exit community, find another
>either larpers or the same
>every american i meet spews the worst brainrot ive ever heard
>american classmates are the most idealist people ive ever met
>american media is hell
>american country is hell
>develop deep hatred for americans over 2 years
>unironically despise americans with a burning passion, cant get rid of internalized stereotypes
what do i do
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How did this lucky son of a nig'uighur'ger
>keep his position for over 20 fucking years
>survive a us and backed revolution and a t**kish invasion
And even start a counter-offensive
>not have the same fate as pics related and even outlive them
>Secure an alliance with poot inn
>win the 2020 elections after all of this
>make everyone who said"ASSAD MUST GO" go
And most of all:
>be one of the only three folks that had both /pol/ and /leftypol/ prais them and call them based
Is it the memes? I bet its the memes
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Zoomers on suicide watch
25% of 18-24 year olds have seriously considered suicide this month.
t. Glenn Greenwald
WTF zoomers is this TRUE?
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Redpill me on the most secretive genocidal regime.
Anchored: Too low effort to warrant its own thread, there already are more than one American related threads in the catalog
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Russia in the 90's
I don't know much about it, so how bad did things get in Russia (and the rest of the Soviet states) after the fall of the USSR in 1992?
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Here’s a improved and simplified version of a Leftist tendency quiz. This is my definition of each tendency below:
Anarchism: those who support a direct transition from Capitalism to Stateless, Classless, Communism.
Left-Communism: Non-Leninist Marxists who oppose Democratic Centralism and instead support a Dictatorship of the Proletariat consisting of Workers councils, as exemplified by the ideas of Rosa Luxembourg.
Trotskyism: Leninists who uphold Trotsky’s line that the Post-Lenin USSR and subsequent Marxist-Leninist countries are “Deformed Workers States”.
Hoxhaism: Anti-Revisionist MLs who believe that that the Pre-Khrushchev USSR and Socialist Albania were the only Socialist states.
Maoism: Anti-Revisionist MLs who support Maos line in the Sino-Soviet split that the Post-Stalin USSR was revisionist and that the only Socialist states were the Pre-Khrushchev USSR, Mao’s China, and Pol Pots Democratic Kampuchea. Maoist are also distinguished by their advocacy for “Protracted Peoples War” (ie. guerrilla uprisings in the countryside to surround the cities) and for the involvement of the peasantry in Socialism, and thus support the ongoing Maoist uprisings in Peru, Turkey, India, and the Philippines.
Marxism-Leninism: Mainstream MLs who take the Soviet side in the Sino-Soviet split and thus uphold the Pre-Gorbachev USSR, the former Eastern Bloc states, Cuba, and the DPRK as Socialist states. They support Soviet-style planned Socialist economies and thus oppose “Market Socialist” countries such as the former Titoist Yugoslavia and Dengist China, Vietnam, and Laos, for extreme Revisionism and Capitalist restoration, while simultaneously opposing Anti-Revisionist states such as Mao’s China, Hoxha's Albania, and Pol Pots Democratic Kampuchea for being Anti-Soviet.
Titoism: Those who uphold Tito’s Yugoslavia as Socialist and believe his “moderate” Market reforms are the right balance between Soviet-style Planned economies and full-blown Dengism.
Dengism: Those who believe that China, Vietnam, and Laos, are Socialist despite their full-blown Capitalist economies (which include Stock Exchanges, sweatshops for U$ corporations, Private Multinational corporations, and Billionaires). They support China in the Sino-Soviet split, Mao’s alliance with the U$ and believe that Deng’s Neoliberal Capitalist reforms were needed to build “productive forces” and are obsessed with the idea that China is a rising superpower and thus fiercely support China and Putin’s Russia in the much-exaggerated “New Cold War”.
Social Democracy: Those who support reformism and oppose revolution, and thus support Centre-Left politicians like Bernie Sanders who propose expanded safety nets to pacify the proletariat. The Bolivarianist movement of Latin America is an example of a Third World Anti-Imperialist version of this ideology.
This doesn't deserve its own thread, you could've perfectly made this poll in the post you made in the previous leftist tendency thread (which is still up btw)
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New International Organization
an international organization uniting and mobilizing progressive left-wing activists and organizations. The International labels itself as aiming for a post-capitalist society.
<Launched after the Democracy in Europe Movement (DiEM25) and The Sanders Institute announced an open call for progressive forces to form a unified front, Progressive International aims to organize worldwide progressive voices using the tools of policy, journalism, and activism. The Progressive International was announced on 30 November 2018 at a Sanders Institute event attended by progressive politicians, economists and activists including Naomi Klein, Cornel West, Fernando Haddad, Niki Ashton and Ada Colau. Formally founded and launched on 11 May 2020 amidst the global Coronavirus pandemic, the International counters the resurgence of authoritarian nationalism worldwide as well as the rise of disaster capitalism
Seems based to me, I think they avoid words like socialism/communism, etc. Because of the amount of international brainrot and anti-communist propaganda. Lots of great people are signed up to this organization and we definitely need this for our current time. Also:
LIVE ONLINE EVENT: Internationalism or Extinction - Inaugural Summit of the Progressive International 18-20 September
You can sign up here, it's free: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/internationalism-or-extinction-inaugural-summit-of-the-pi-tickets-118538117701
We could have a stickied thread or maybe restream it to cytu.be when it happens. I haven't done too much digging into this organization as of yet, I literally found it yesterday while half drunk half stoned, but it makes me hopeful that things are happening and maybe this will help the left internationally, idk. Thoughts?
Also here are some links:
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The beginnings of our new leftypol project
Hello everyone, we have received the results of our project proposal topic, and I'm delighted to announce that we are teaming up with 'leftypedia' to deliver our planned 'argument/talking point resource' idea. In case you don't know, leftypedia is the current version of the old abandoned 'marxistpedia' which was a project started by leftypol users back in the day, so I think this is sort of like a homecoming in a way.
Anyway, if you have a look at the leftypedia site you might be able to tell that they have a much more formal and 'encyclopedic' tone than what we're planning, just like wikipedia, but the admin is going to create a separate 'category' for our new content that will be called something like 'rhetoric: topic' rather than just 'topic', this will also feature on the frontpage much like the encyclopedic content. As a tenplate, I'd like you to feast your eyes on these pages which someone on leftypedia already made (albeit only on their personal userspace for now).
I'd like to ask if anyone can come up with a slightly more catchy name for our new section than 'rhetoric', cause that sounds a bit cumbersome to me even though I came up with it, so yeah, open to suggestions.
So, since that isn't implemented yet, I'd like you all to try familiarise yourselves with the site for now, maybe take a look at the articles that are already there and improve some of them if you feel able. Unfortunately the site currently has only edit by approval so you will have to wait for any changes you make to be approved, this is because of a persistent spambot problem and I hope that we will be able to work out something to change this to normal editing as on wikipedia and the like, please just bear with it for now.
If you have an answer to a 'common question', or you have an effortpost you'd like to archive and save, then please post it in this topic for now so that we can work on it together until we can figure out how to categorise our new section of the site.
Thanks for your attention!
EDIT: I've now got admin permissions on leftypedia, so I can create pages and approve edits directly. If you want to use the site I recommend you create a user account, which I can then approve once you make a productive edit (to distinguish from spambots), then you won't have to wait for approval anymore and can create articles yourself. Or, just ask me and I can create an article for you if you're desperate to make one as your first edit. Thanks guys, I hope we can make this project cool together!
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Is there a Marxist analysis of the Yugoslav wars? Or was it just ethnic conflict?
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W-what are you reading there anon? looks interesting
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treatment of the mentally disabled in the soviet union
There are people who claimed that the soviet union treated people with autism/retardation like shit. Obviously we as a species didn't know that much about autism in the 20th century but I wonder if the soviets could have done a better job of treating the autistic/retarded/intellectually challenged.
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What do you know about the Japanese Communist Party, the JCP? From the outset they seem like Orthodox Marxists (by that I mean the Second International under Kautsky). They've remained independence from the USSR and China so they've developed their own Marxist theory and reject the rigidity of Leninism - for example, they consider bourgeois freedoms and democratic rights, including the right to form opposition parties, to be crucial for a socialist society (see: https://www.jcp.or.jp/english/jcpcc/blog/2020/01/program-of-the-jcp.html#_05):
>A socialist/communist Japan will inherit and further develop all valuable gains of the capitalist era, including those of democracy and freedom. The "freedom of exploitation" will be restricted, and its abolition will be sought in the course of reforms to be carried out. Abolition of exploitation will pave the way for a society in which humankind becomes the key players of society in the true sense of the word. The idea that "the people are sovereign" will become a social reality in all fields, politics, the economy, culture, and society.
>The freedom of various ideologies and beliefs as well as political activities, including those by opposition parties, will be rigorously protected. Giving privileges to a particular political party as the "leadership" party in the name of "socialism" or defining a particular outlook on the world as "state-designated philosophy" is an act that has nothing in common with socialism and therefore must be categorically rejected.
They have a really informative website in English, and this text also caught my attention:
They seem to consider Engels to be misinterpreting Marx.
>The previous JCP documents used to adopt Engels’ definition of the fundamental contradiction of capitalism as “the contradiction between socialized production and capitalistic appropriation”. But Marx never formulated such a contradiction.
>Marx consistently saw the basic contradiction of capitalism in the expansion of surplus-value as its driving motive or definitive aim.
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Post your beloved armchair
This one is mine, but not beloved. Since it's not comfy enough.
By the way it was dumped on the sidewalk and adopted.
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Could a government formed through sortition be considered a DotP?
Pic related is an example of sortition-based governmental structure, called multi-body sortition. The reason I'm asking this is because the idea here would be that you'd minimize, or even wholly eliminate, the influence of lobbyists and the bourgeoisie, as they wouldn't be able to establish a permanent foothold in government procedure. While lobbyists can volunteer for certain positions, the salary included with some of these positions would discourage corruption and the regular rotation of members would disrupt the permanence of control, as the next batch of participants is completely randomized. Of course, this system would be put in place post-revolution, during which a dwindling of the capitalists' power outside of government should occur. What does /leftypol/ think, am I a stupid retard or is it based, dialectical and redpilled? Subscribe to find out.
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Lefty Org General - /lfg/
So I made a CPUSA thread in the past, and I saw we have a FRSO thread on here. I'm pretty sure, also, that the IWW has made some kinda presence on /leftypol/
To avoid the bloat of different (usually American) based parties all making their own threads, I'd figure it'd be for the best to have a general thread for leftist organizations to inform people of general goings on, to recruit, and collaborate on shared projects.
>People's World (CPUSA Affiliated)
>World Socialist Website (SEP Affiliated)
>Industrial Worker (IWW Affiliated)
>Rashid's Writings (NABPP Affilliated)
>Fight Back News (FRSO Affiliated)
Honestly, I don't want this to remain an American exclusive thread, though I suspect /leftypol/ gets no small amount of traffic from the U.S.
If there's any other, international parties who have members posting on here, I'd love to add them. I'm also open to adding new elements to the OP, right now I'm just linking sites + party news, but I figure we could maybe have a general summary of what each party is up to, or their tendency, or what have you.
Don't be afraid to comment with suggestions! This thread isn't for me, but the whole of /leftpol/
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Why do some of you gotta sound like this
Yada yada twitter post containment thread fuck you
I'm just wondering why so many leftists insist on talking like this. Not because they're necessarily wrong but they do understand that to the average person this sounds like insanity right? The average joe doesn't associate human rights with a specific post-war event they associate it with the idea that they can't get prosecuted for believing in god or being gay. I can't tell if this is glowop crap or just the left being dogshit at selling their ideas.
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On average you read a book every month, right?
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Bring me sources or anything regarding workers cooperatives, collective owned business, etc. And tell me why those things differ than current system. Also you can't literally dump hierarchy isn't it?
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corporate neolib or based leftist?
He seems to straddle the line between both, but he does support positions that no neolib would, like medicare for all. I wouldn't call him a comrade but he's definitely useful for our movement.
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A thread for non revisionist MLs
What are you reading? Is it good?
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>Walk to coffe shop in Hoxha outfit
>Sit down directly in the middle of the store and put my feet up
>Pull out the Hoxha collected works and start reading
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How do Marxists explain the wild GDP gap? Seriously, I want to know, I'm not baiting.
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>DSA ares feds
>SRA are feds
>CPUSA are feds
>Redneck Revolt are feds
I get that it is very likely there are indeed feds(I think some of the ones I mentioned are actually especially bad) in these orgs but I mean if we dissolved every org if a fed got in them we would never have orgs at all,
I do unironically think part of the reason is people not wanting to join orgs so they convince themselves all of them are filled with feds and sectarianism where every org that isn't 100 align with them but be some nefarious evil controlled oppostion as that's easier to believe than leftists being dumb
I guess what I want to know is if fed infiltration is inevitable why be so hostile to forming/joining orgs?
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What's your opinion on Pol Pot?
Based revolutionary or murderous traitor?
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Bruh why did the slavs basically get fucked over by life?
Like, I was gonna say Russian originally, but imo the whole history of the people of Eastern Europe is seemingly just one massive shit slurry, like
>Get BTFO by a bunch of emerging Bronze Age societies
>Get BTFO by the Hellenics
>Get BTFO by the Romans
>Get BTFO by the Mongols (who wind up being the least bad conquerors)
>The root word for "slave" is literally your ethnic identity
>Country finally gains independence but half the tsars wind up being crazy tyrant assholes
>Tsars hold entire region back from advancing for centuries, despite the ongoings of their western counterparts
>Western euros decide you're a savage, barbarous people
<Make race science to explain why le slav (and many others) is subhuman
>If you aren't Russian you're subject to a shitty empire
>If you are Russian (or anyone else really) odds are you're either a serf or a Not!Serf
>Tsars cuck the Eastern lands out to Western finance capital
<Mfw being an empire that got neocolonized by another empire
>Get BTFO by tiny, newly developed Japan
>Get dragged into worst war in history thus far and get BTFO yet again, but this time so hard the empire collapses and the people revolt
<Tfw slavs finally get some reprieve by creating the first socialist state
>Lmao nope actually some crazy not!kraut has gained total power in Germany, thinks the slavs are subhuman, and all his nice porky donors want him to get the Soviet oil fields and agricultural lands
<Mfw going from celebrating the revolution happening a whole generation ago to desperately fighting for survival against hordes and hordes of fascists who adamantly believe every single slav is worthy of extermination
<<Mfw 27 million people die for nothing
<<<Mfw the Soviet people literally save the world
>Go on trying to rebuild
>Burgers convince their citizens and much of the world that the Soviets are evil monsters who must be stopped
<Mfw the Cold War ends the only good thing to ever happen to the slavic peoples
>20 million deaths in peace time
>Modern Russian attitude is vague hopelessness
Fam, should slavs be considered honorary niggas for all the shit they went through?
Why did the Universe decide to shit all over them?
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Where is everyone from?
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How can one man be so based and survive multiple attempts of Juche necromancy?
Please enlighten me with the glorious ideas of Juche.
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Opinion on them?
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U.S. Bacteriological Warfare in Korea Confirmed
China and the DPRK alleged -- and jointly produced this film -- during the Korean War alleging widespread use of bacteriological warfare by U.S. imperialists:
Bomb carrying insects and rats carrying plague and other diseases were dropped across Korea and Manchuria by U.S. Air Force planes to attack the civilian population and cause terror. The U.S. has long denied this and claimed the allegations were hoaxes. There is now newly revealed information from U.S. military documents proving it did occur, according to a new article by researcher Jeffrey Kaye. Kaye has published articles on U.S. torture at Guantanamo and other subjects at Truthout, The Guardian, Al Jazeera America, Alternet, and other websites.
>In order to provide a documentary backdrop to a history of the war from an intelligence point-of-view, the CIA released hundreds of declassified top-secret communications intelligence (COMINT) reports, as well as assorted formerly secret intelligence analyses, and open-source reports from the Agency’s Foreign Broadcast Information Service (FBIS).
>The CIA likely did not set out to document the COMINT history of the North Korean and Chinese response to what appeared to be U.S. and/or U.N. attacks by biological, bacteriological, or ”germ” weapons, but that is in effect what happened. While the released documents do not represent a full opening of all archives related to Korean War communications intelligence, the sampling is unprecedented, and the contention of this essay is that the released files provide a valuable addition to our understanding of the events surrounding the alleged U.S. biological or germ warfare attack against North Korea and China from 1950–1953.
>No full analysis of these documents released by the CIA has ever been published. So far as I can determine, only one historian of the period has even referenced them. It is important that they receive attention, as the question of the guilt or innocence of the U.S. when it comes to charges of the use of biological weapons of mass destruction during the Korean War has never been fully settled.
>These documents provide strong corroborating evidence that the germ warfare charged by the Communists, and by a number of outside observers, journalists and investigators, did in fact occur. The consilience of evidence includes the testimony of U.S. Air Force and Marine personnel captured by North Korea and China, though that evidence will only be examined here in the context of how it arises in the relevant CIA documents. Conversely, the evidence pertaining to other theories about the germ warfare charges, e.g., that it was a “hoax,” lack such convergent evidence.
>This essay sets out a history of the germ warfare campaign as experienced and reported by North Korean and Chinese military units, filtered primarily through daily COMINT reports of Communist communications contemporaneously gathered by U.S. military intelligence. Contemporary CIA-based open source information will also briefly be examined.
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What actually happened at Tianmanen?
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the five principles of pancasila
1. The Supreme Lordship (believe in God)
2. Justice and civilized humanity
3. unity of the nation
4. Community led by wisdom in deliberation and representation
Prioritizing the interests of the state and society
5. Social justice for all the people
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LION OF DAMASCUS STRIKES AGAIN
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Why is it always the poorest white trailer trash biggest supporters of far-right?
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What drives participation in a cybernetic socialist system? What is the reward you get for working hard? If it is meritocratically assigned, how is the development of inequality precluded? What happens if you want to switch industries? In addition, what happens if you want to implement innovations that may disrupt the utility of a major sector that may employ a great number of workers?
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Class struggle in...
You faggots DO realize that there's class struggle going on in almost ALL academic disciplines going on today, right?!
Yes, you faggot, Domenico Losurdo pointing out that Stalin "wasn't literally Hitler" IS CLASS STRUGGLE inside historiography, you humongous faggot.
Yes, you faggot, Richard Lewontin or Stephen J. Gould debunking reductionist shit about biology or IQ shit IS CLASS STRUGGLE inside biology and sociology, you humongous faggot.
Yes, you faggot, Zizek, Badiou, and Johnston constructing a materialist ontology IS CLASS STRUGGLE inside philosophy, you humongous faggot.
Yes, you faggot, Rancière writing about how "everything you know about learning is wrong" IS CLASS STRUGGLE inside pedagogy.
I could go on, but, honestly, anon, you need to READ A SINGLE FUCKING BOOK, STARTING WITH:
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"COMMULISM IS BAD I REMEMBER MY FAMILY LIVED IN EAST EUROPE SPECIFICALLY IN THE 80s"
What do we do about these mental midgets?
Why do these retards even exist?
>Communism was so bad
>Life was so unfree fam, no food, bad bad bad
<Why yes, my country indeed was a fascist dictatorship before the Warsaw Pact
<No, it didnt industrialize until communists took over
<No, I never lived there when communists held power
<<U DONOT UNRSTND TEH FLAG I WAVE IT AAND I FEEL GOOD THE SOVIETS DIDNT LET ME!!!!!
<<<YES I AM A EUROPEAN NATIONALIST THAT NEVRR LIVED IN EUROPE FUCK UUUUUUU!!!!!
Why do these fags exist and how can they stop?
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Same feel of the pictures, honestly.
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what the fuck do I even do everything seems so fucking useless, there is no fucking movement at all and I dont want to read these big ass fucking books. I dont give a fuck about arguing against capitalism and i Wish I could be fucking ignorant but everything fucking angers me and makes me feel cold. you will say to fucking organize and all that garbage but I dont have time and the money to do so, I hate hearing every meaningless buzzword over and over but I cant take it out of my fucking head
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I fucking hate this bitch so fucking much shes so fucking obnoxious, i can’t stand her. Why is she considered some sort of leftist? Because she says “capitalism bad” and hangs out with the left’s resident sexual predator vaush?
Im trans and its so fucking annoying to have these fucking cucks approach me talking about how they know ALL about being trans because they watched a contrapoints video.
Shes always got this fucking smug look on her face too, jesus christ it pisses me off to no fucking end how obnoxious this asshole is.
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Marhaenism is an ideology that opposes human oppression of humans and nations over nations. This ideology was developed by the first President of the Republic of Indonesia, Ir. Soekarno, from the thought of Marxism which was applied according to the nature and culture of Indonesia. Soekarno initiated Marhaenisme, namely to elevate the dignity of Massa Marhaen (another term for the Indonesian people), who had the means of production but was (still) oppressed. However, the meaning of Marhaen is also addressed to all groups of the small people in question, namely the peasants and workers (proletariat) whose lives are always in the grip of the rich and the rulers / bourgeoisie / capitalists.
In essence, Marhaenism is an ideology of struggle which was formed from Socio-Nationalism, Socio-Democracy and Soekarno's Cultural Godhead.
According to marhaenism, to be economically independent and free from exploitation by other parties, each person or household needs a production factor or capital. The form can be in the form of soil or machines / tools. In a modern context, vehicles, information technology devices, kitchen utensils and electronic goods can be properly empowered as capital or production factors. Even though it is not large, ownership of the capital itself is necessary to ensure the independence of the person or household in the economy.
In contrast to capitalism, capital in marhaenism is not to be hoarded or multiplied, but to be processed to make ends meet and generate a surplus. Farmers plant to feed their own families, then sell the surplus or excess to the market. Tailors, craftsmen or laborers produce goods that they will partially use themselves, although the rest is of course sold. Ideally, these self-sufficiency requirements must be met before serving the market. This means that when a worker, craftsman or farmer produces goods that he will not consume himself, he only acts as a factor of production for other parties, which makes him vulnerable to being dictated by the market or exploited. As a whole (as a whole) in the marhaenism economic system, goods that are not / are not needed will not be produced, because each person / household must first ensure his own profile and level of needs before making anything. Innovations for the birth of new products will occur when the needs are real.
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Bolivia’s ‘interim president’ withdraws from upcoming election, one day after poll shows pro-Morales candidate in the lead
The acting president of Bolivia, Jeanine Anez, has declared that she will not run in next month’s presidential race, citing the need to consolidate votes in order to defeat a socialist candidate loyal to ousted leader Evo Morales.
President Maduro Rejects EU Request To Delay Elections
"If you want to see the truth, send a commission. You will be able to see the whole electoral campaign and the elections. You will be able to see the truth of Venezuela, something that the U.S. government does not allow you to," he said.
Venezuela: The Communist Party denounces the illegal dismissal of trade unionist by state company
The Communist Party of Venezuela (PCV) publically denounces the unjustified and illegal dismissal of the local leader and worker of the state-owned CVG Carbonorca company, Sergio Requena, who is also a candidate for the Popular Revolutionary Alternative (APR) to the National Assembly in circuit 2 of Bolivar State.
Trump 'associates' offered Assange pardon in return for emails source, court hears
Two political figures claiming to represent Donald Trump offered Julian Assange a “win-win” deal to avoid extradition to the US and indictment, a London court has heard.Under the proposed deal, outlined by Assange’s barrister Jennifer Robinson, the WikiLeaks founder would be offered a pardon if he disclosed who leaked Democratic party emails to his site, in order to help clear up allegations they had been supplied by Russian hackers to help Trump’s election in 2016.
Canadian rights groups press Trudeau to halt record-breaking arms sales to Saudi Arabia over Yemen war
Canadian NGOs demand the cabinet stop the thriving weapon exports to Riyadh, Ottawa’s second-largest non-US arms buyer and a major actor in the Yemen war. The UN has already taken Canada to task for the shipments.
UN points finger at Turkey over rights abuses in Syria
The main perpetrators are brigades and factions operating under the military arm of the Istanbul-based Syrian opposition called the Syrian National Army, who are accused of organized extortion, looting, property expropriation, rape, kidnapping and murder. Some of the worst offenses were recorded in Afrin.
Palestinians voice concern over Labour’s ‘shrinking space’
“The Labour Party is now forbidding [constituency parties] to even debate the concerns about the IHRA, despite these concerns having been raised by bodies such as the Institute for Race Relations and leading lawyers and scholars of anti-semitism.
Poland’s senior right-wing party moving to govern alone
Marek Suski, a top lawmaker, said the Law and Justice party would continue to run Poland as a minority government, without the two junior partners that were part of the coalition dubbed the United Right.
Russia Jails Second North Korean Poacher for Attacking Border Guards
“The coalition at the moment does not exist,” Suski said. “Our former coalition partners should be packing up their desks.”But other coalition politicians used less definitive language and Suski’s statement came to be seen as a tactical power play as a sudden governing crisis deepens.
Irish deputy PM ATTACKED with beverage in park (VIDEOS)
Irish Tanaiste (Deputy Prime Minister) Leo Varadkar had a TV spot ruined when a skateboard-toting woman approached and chucked what looked like a cup of coffee in his face, before fleeing the scene.
Chilean Court Closes Mining Project Over Environmental Impacts
The Tribunal ordered the total and definitive Pascua Lama's closure as it imposed US$9 million fine on Barrick Gold, which is the world's largest gold mining company.
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Face the enemy
This guy is the number one soldier in porky's army. Not tiki torch larpers or even paid shills. This.
How do we defeat picrel?
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Glow niggers on reddit and social media
It's actually fucking insane how much glowposting there is on reddit especially but really all the social media. The prevailing strategy right now seems to be pure demoralization. Hundreds of sock puppet accounts that spout reactionary garbage while also going "muh both sides", claiming to have experience in every field imaginable, have experience with every culture imaginable and being world class athletes/artists/academics while somehow making dozens of reddit posts every day, including on neck beard gaming subs (to make the accounts look more believable)
Is there literally anything that can be done about this?
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is this meme true or made up?
Were we really fighting
1 a vegan
2 high fat bastard
3 wizard chicken fag
4 a little bitch
5 a "von"
6 glowie larper
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What will be the future of humanity?
Imo it will be one of these 3.
1)Post-human fully automated neoliberal capitalism
3)nationalism that ends up destroying humanity due to war and environmental damage.
I am betting on the first.
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Why are leftists so obsessed with ecofascism
Seems like anyone who doesn't think that 10 billion people can live a current day first world lifestyle is called an ecofascist chud who wants to genocide the entire global south to save the trees. I get that corporations and state entities like militaries contribute the most to climate change and consequently they should receive the most attention, but we also have to realize that a large part is also driven by personal consumption and we have to change our lifestyles at some point, probably in an uncomfortable direction, if things are to get better.
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Russell "Texas" Bentley
He is blogger who is a veteran of the war in Donbass. Anybody follow him?
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Shit getting real in Colombia?
Seems that protests in Colombia against the massacres of police/paramilitary are flaring up, and seems that in Bogotà there was a massacre with 8 dead at the hands of the police.
Shit seems getting real but at the same time i can't find good sources about it, so i'm opening a thread for everybody to chip in and add info.
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Redpill me on the Khmer Rouge
>supported by China
What's not to love about it? Why did it failed?
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Does anyone else just see....decay...everywhere now???
I don't know why, but I saw glimpses of it before all this, just walking around certain neighborhoods, walking in some towns. But now I just see decay everywhere. Not just one specific form, but decay in every sense. It truly looks like this society is in decline, I live in Brooklyn and pretty much everywhere in the whole city looks like it's slowly rotting away, the people look more and more lifeless, I think the California smoke reached our skies so lately everyday is a bit hazy if not dull and grey. The parts of the city not left to obviously rot away just look gaudy and tacky now, as though constructed by the most inept and flashy sculptors imaginable. The parks have lately been allowed to grow wild, that was interesting to look at.
Honestly this whiplash is crazy, it's as though when COVID began I put on nightmare goggles and I can't take them off, anyone else experiencing this?
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CAPITALISM HATE THREAD
Retard moments in capitalism
>mass produce shitty consumer culture full of shit nobody needs
>make television based on comedy and low culture
>make radio nothing but shitty music broadcasts and regurgitation of the news
>make news infected with idpol bickering and shit flinging
>put corporations in power of practically all institutions, appealing only to the masses
>pucker up the internet's ugly rear end with advertisment and mass-produced content and strip away all forms of creativity
>make music either some shitty synth or unintelligible gibberish from some gutter shit gurgling retard on soundcloud
>shit up all forms of social media with idpol and massive retardedness
>make television programs so dumbed down and advertiser friendly that people hate it
>make all culture its sole purpose to make the masses passive and obedient to you by actively destroying it with your troglodyte faggotry
>infect it all with sameness and make it the most faceless thing on the face of the earth
<WAAAAH CULTURAL MARXISTS ARE DESTROYING THE WEST WAAAAAH
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grifting the right
Why is the right so easy to grift? esp. the boomers?
Are they all just a bunch of gullible rubes?
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This is Adolf Hitler.
Unrequited Jew lover.
High school drop out.
Art school reject.
Leader of the Aryan man.
Say something nice about him.
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Are Maoist dialectics different from Hegelian dialectics?
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Why does Marxism-Leninism always lead to tyranny?
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/leftybritpol/ - SECOND LOCKDOWN EDITION
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Uphold Marxism Lenninism Maoism Posadist thought!!
As you all know leftypol is a soapbox for only the most intellectual discussion of revolution. That being said, would like to present to you a new type of revolutionary theory which will change the game forever.
Thotsky was a mega gay, with no pp. in life he only was responisble for one good thing, and that is posadism.
So my belief is that posadas was right about nuking the planet, and going to contact aliens. The thing is, if we met aliens, and the world folllowed trotsky, we’d get killed by the aliens for being fucking nerds. Therefore we need to take the chad and based idealogy of big daddy Mao, and combine it with the based idealogy of posadas minus the gay trotskyism to create
Marxism leninism maoism posadist thought with transgender characteristics.
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There's some whores in this house
>NOOOOOO! YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE A RAP SONG ABOUT PUSSY! I WAS A VIRGIN UNTIL 24 AND EVERYONE ELSE NEEDS TO BE TO! VULGAR JOGGER RAP NUUUUUU! UWU
mod edit: post quality too high for leftypol
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Is Stalin a mass murderer on the level of Hitler? What about all those purges, gulags, and starving Ukraninans.
It can't all be coldwar propaganda right?
Anchored: Yes, it is all Cold War propaganda
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Pushing conspiracies to get far right looners to attack places/people
It's always a pain to write an introduction to get everyone up to speed to present an idea, but I'm sure if I say the words boomers, the far right, conspiracy theories and public shootings it rings a bell for all of you.
We live in the post-truth era and war is nowadays waged through disinformation. I see an opportunity here.
Since people on the right are so eager to storm places armed and shoot shit up, why don't we specifically push conspiracies to get these looners to do things beneficial to the left without them even realizing? Afterall they have zero understanding of Marxism and communism. E.g. a cooperation changing their logo to a gay pride flag is "Marxist" in their eyes, so we can push anything as Marxist - as their enemy.
As an example our targets may be wealthy business owners/share holders, lobbyists - the type of people to manipulate politics and the media to their favor. We claim they are liberal/Marxist pedophiles who are working against Trump, and if we push hard enough, maybe we have a 2nd Pizzagate with some dude and an AR-15 shooting up some place. Maybe this could be a regular occurance even.
It's a psyoop to cause stochastic t*rrorism by proxy, executed by our enemies who are crazy and actually willing to kill.
Thoughts? And I'm not asking you if this is realistically possible for us to do, but do you think it's conceptually possible if the resources and manpower online was available?
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Thoughts on a media contest?
I've been throwing around this idea with the mod team and it's time to ask for the community's input.
The idea is to have a media contest (writing, images, video, audio, etc) about a certain topic. I had proposed the winner get to word filter a word for at least a week.
What are your thoughts on this?
Would you participate?
Do you have any other ideas?
What would you like the topic to be? (I was thinking explaining LTV or the transition from simple form to money form of the first chapter of Capital, for example, but it could be fiction, or even erotica).
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Marx was Eurocentric and it harms his analysis. For example, he couldn't even explain Asiatic modes of production and how there really weren't any revolutions in Asiatic civilizations like there were in European ones. Also, the only times he mentions Asia/Africa is in relation to Europe ie; Netherlands colonized Indonesia, Britain India, etc. What do we do about this and how do we analyze the Asiatic modes of production through Marxist dialectics? What explains the lack of revolutions like in Europe?
INB4 IDPOL BAIT
This isn't idpol or bait, I want to analyze different modes of production and talk about Marx. Unless literally saying "Asiatic" is idpol now.
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The Read "X" Meme
This is the most pathetic shit to me. If you can't express one idea from X in your own words, why would I be inclined to read X or to believe that you actually read X? Does anyone really believe they'll be able to build a mass movement by repeating "google X" and "read Y" ad-nauseum?
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MLs, what is your response to this video?
In this video, he criticizes authoritarian socialism for advocating means which are ineffective in establishing communist ends. He thinks that the system created in the USSR and so on was merely replacing one hierarchy with another, however unlike anti-communists he do not believe it follows from this that hierarchy is somehow inevitable or written into our genetics, and that hierarchy is, however, written into the state.
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as of now I was reading "Socialism or Extinction" by Ted Reese and i can't comprehend this bit here:
>As we have seen,when labour-saving technology reduces total socially necessary labour time, there is a relative fall in the value contained in the total value of commodities, ie less value per commodity, despite the fact that the rate of exploitation has increased,ie that each worker is now giving the capitalist more surplus labour time and therefore producing more surplus value relative to their necessary labour.
<The total automation of productive labour would therefore make commodities worthless.
How does he reach this conclusion? I mean its clear that rising productivity tends to cheapen commodities more and more but isn't there a lower bound in that (likely given by reproduction costs of raw material+electric power+machinery usage)?
Also if commodities will become worthless isn't communism inevitable?
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If according to Stalin the Technical Intelligensia are just apolitical potatoes who serve the ruling class of society at any time, and the masses make history, then why should anyone here do jack shit to advance the revolution, considering we are almost all college educated engineers/scientists etc?
Why shouldn't we all just wait for the revolution since our class is incapable of being the revolutionary subject anyway, unless you're taking the Paul Mason post-capitalist line of muh revolutionary left accelerationist tech workers.
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If the eastern bloc was still around, would you defect? Which country in that case?
DDR for me.
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Leftists who defend small business owners
Under current capitalism they will forever be cucked by the bourgeoise proper
Under socialism they will cease to exist
Only mutualism may be good for them but that's a total meme movement even most anarkids laugh at
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French Unions Protest Against Macron's Austerity Policies
The General Confederation of Workers (CGT), the "United, Solidarity, Democratic" (SUD) movement, the National Union of Students of France (UNEF), and the Unitary Trade Union Federation (FSU) accused the Macron administration of embracing a purely "accounting view" of public affairs.
NPA leader in Bohol surrenders
A member and leader of rebel-communist groups based in Bohol surrendered before police officials last September 2, 2020.The Police Regional Office in Central Visayas (PRO – 7), in a press release issued on Wednesday, September 16, 2020, identified the surrenderee as Joseph Gulle Galagar.
CPI Maoist Launch Anti Government Poster Campaign In West Singhbhum District
The CPI (Maoist) launched a poster-campaign against the administration at Chaibasa marketplace and township in West Singhbhum district on the intervening night of Tuesday and Wednesday.
International Brigades descendants to be offered Spanish citizenship
DESCENDANTS of International Brigades volunteers who fought against fascism in the Spanish civil war are set to be offered Spanish citizenship.The offer is part of a draft Bill that aims to correct the remaining legacy of the dictatorship of General Francisco Franco.
‘527 years of humiliation’: Indigenous activists topple statue of ‘genocidal’ 16-century conquistador in Colombia
Angry activists destroyed a statue of 16th-century Spanish conquistador Sebastian de Belalcazar in Colombia. The incident follows a wave of similar attacks on historical monuments in the US.
Australian police raids seized copies of Chinese diplomatic communications
The Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) reported yesterday that Australian police agencies have at least twice this year accessed the communications of Chinese diplomats, in violation of international law, triggering a sharp deterioration in relations between the two governments.
Ecuador: Police Crack Down on Workers, Students, Doctors
Orlando Perez, host of the teleSUR program En Clave Politica, published a video showing when a police truck fired jets of water at the protesters who arrived at Santo Domingo Square in downtown Quito.
Israeli firm provided phone-hacking services to Saudi Arabia: Report
The Marker said a Samsung S10 phone was hacked at the request of the general prosecutor’s office in Riyadh, but did not know the identity of the owner. The man returned to London soon afterwards.Cellebrite was also working in Saudi Arabia at the time of the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi by a Saudi hit squad in Istanbul in October 2018, the report said.
Top Scottish law adviser resigns from UK’s government amid Brexit's legal turmoil
Advocate General for Scotland Richard Keen has resigned from British government amid the ongoing row over PM Boris Johnson’s Brexit plans that could breach international laws and the EU divorce treaty.
Mass grave of victims ‘killed in violent exorcism’ linked to religious cult in Panama
Authorities in Panama have discovered a mass grave they believe contains the bodies of people tortured and killed by a religious cult.Investigators had to hike through the mountains for 10 hours to reach the grave in a remote indigenous province in the country’s north-west.
Russia to Send India 100M Coronavirus Vaccine Doses
Russia will sell 100 million doses of its highly touted coronavirus vaccine to India once final trials and regulatory steps are completed, Russia’s sovereign fund that is bankrolling the project announced Wednesday.
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/lat/ Latin America general
There isn't one yet so here we go. All things lat - Venezuela, Bolivia, Brasil.
We already have this thread, check the catalog before posting a duplicate >>840293
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Why do tankies hate him?
>led the Soviet Union during the peak of its power
>Pedos? in my Politburo? *cocks Tokarev*
>The space race WOULD NOT have happened without him (Stalin wouldn't have signed off on that shit)
>legitimately wanted to make the Soviet Union a less murdery place.
>Dropped monthly DISS tracks at the UN, stood up for Congo when no one else would
>greenlit a giant flying boat that could go 300 mph and remain undetectable by radar
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Imagine still being a ML in 2020.
Why aren't you a post-post-ironic crypto-accelerationist anti-dialectical post-Marx democratic-cybernetic Wolffist-Cockshottist?
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How do we defeat picrel, esp. their shills on the internet?
How do we prevent the younger generations from being taken in by the lie of neoliberalism?
If right-wing populism fails or is defeated we don't want picrel to recapture the narrative
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Herd Immunity in Burgerland
picrel wants herd immunity in america. What's the chance of this happening and how many people would have to die/be disabled?
according to MSNBC its 6 million people
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Please discuss and share resources on this topic.
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Thoughts on Erdogan?
>He is trying to reinvent himself as the voice of the umma (ie, Muslims everywhere) and also of the world’s poor.
>A couple of years ago Mr Erdogan met the daughters of another black Muslim hero, Malcolm X, one of whom reportedly said the Turkish strongman embodied her late father’s legacy. Shortly afterwards, Turkey renamed a street near the new American embassy in Ankara “Malcolm X Avenue”.
>Turkey’s president appears genuinely to view himself not only as the voice of all Muslims but of the whole global south.
>Mr Erdogan has backed Nicolás Maduro’s repressive regime in Venezuela
Is he the turkish Gaddafi?
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How bad is war?
Is war really that bad?
People say it's really really bad but I mean all it is is you get drafted go to a battlefield run forward and shoot. Sure you might get shot but you just fall and die basically instantly 90% of the time. What's war even like?
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Why is this country ran by kulaks?
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The 101 Series: Materialism Vs. Idealism
I figure it would be useful to have a series of threads devoted to key concepts in leftist theory. I figured this would be a good starting topic as any.
Scholars of the board, feel free to educate the booklets.
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The decline of poverty under capitalism
Is it true that capitalism significantly reduced world poverty? Are neolibs right?
This guy https://youtu.be/6Cq4hqUYGNo
claims that world poverty isn't declining only because of China and that the "capitalism isn't reducing poverty at all" argument is false. Is that true?
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The right has no ideas
What I realized is that the right literally has no ideas. I'm talking about mainstream conservatives and neoliberals, and even to a large extent nationalists/fascists. Literally their whole political project is just paranoia and backlashing against shit the left proposes. Even moderate succdems like Sanders, etc. are the ones with all the ideas. Literally the only thing the right can do is just yell NUUUUUUUUU at every proposal. Even when you talk to younger (Gen Z) conservatives they don't even have any ideas, other than just "i hate socialism/whatever". This is for both cultural/social and economic issues.
>let gays marry
>tax the rich
>make education a free like in yurop
>literally anything cultural or economic
NOOOOOOOOOO! YOU CANT!
>Well what the fuck do you want?
Zoomer rightist: I'm sad and alienated and girls don't like me! fuck nìggers fuck trannies huhuh, look at my memes of white women in wheatfields. fucking kikes
Boomer rightist: That's right my son, gotta stop them ILLEGALS from crossing the border, not to mention those satanic pedophile DEMONcrats who are actually the real anti semites! Israel FTW!
Picrel: Make Ameriga Great egen *spends 30 billion to build 1% of a border wall* *cuts taxes on the rich* EBIN
lol, literally everything they do isn't based on an original idea, but just backlashing against cultural and social and economic changes they don't like
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Vox Founder:One Billion Americans
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When we win and achieve communism, and so you won't need to work to survive anymore, what profession would you like to do? What will you do with your free time?
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Thoughts on Georgism?
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>be moderate socdem nationalist
>not even a real commie
>want to keep country from being lap dog/military base bloc party for a foreign power
>get killed by ultra-nationalist
>country turns into culture colony
>fast forward 50 years
>plummeting birth rates
>literally work yourself to death
>CONSUUUME to hide the pain
>a bunch of reactionary weebs on a singaporean rice paddie forum celebrate your death because at least there's no socialism
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The only poll that ever mattered on leftypol's opinion on China
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Anyone else here an r/stupidpol refugee? This is my first time I'm looking at a chan for serious political discussion, ever since like 2009 or so when I saw how shit /new/ was.
I'll admit stupidpol helped reignite my interest in leftism but it's gotten so unbearably bad recently. I don't know what the fuck the problem is there either, there are so many whiny smug ass mods. Is it just simply impossibl to be a reddit mod and not be a massive fucking faggot? Pic unrelated
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Combine Bürgerkrieg and usapol threads? why we need two separate burger containment threads?
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I posted this in the other thread and got a lot of replies, so I decided to repost it as it's own thread:
I can't sleep at night anymore. I don't know of it's the combination of orange skies and smoke so thick it looks like fog for the past week fucking me up or having seen so much crazy shit from protest streams that I'm having almost some PTSD like reaction.
There's been a lot to take it in this year in Burgerclapistan, and it can't be just me feeling this way. I constantly feel like things are truly different this time. Something is waiting, and I feel so pent up waiting for that thing to arrive. Maybe it never arrives, and I wind up feeling disquiet at the fact that some grim consequence never materializes, and we return to our mundane, torpid existences, waiting again for some release.
I can't focus on anything.
Am I just overreacting?
I had been feeling like this since at least 2018, seeing homeless people growing in numbers in California and seeing the place I grew up growing slowly shittier, seeing routine traffic jams so bad that people couldn't leave their driveways, experiencing everything getting more expensive every year....I deep down knew inside that things could not continue like this forever. Like I said before, it's different this time. I feel defeated. I think what really did me in was waking up at 10am and seeing DARK ORANGE skies and having my family members react as it was some kind of cool event instead of it being fucking terrifying that you could smell the burning buildings from miles away and the smoke being so thick that it burns your lungs. Seeing the fascist trash slowly becoming more violent over the last few months, seeing all your favorite businesses boarded up and gone, seeing your government basically abdicate all of it's obligations to its people (even more so than usual).
On top of all the other bullshit life threw at you even before everything went to hell, it all feels like it's too much to take. I just want some kind of release.
I can't be the only one feeling this way, and it can't just be people on this board too. Does no one see how fucked up our world has become?
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Venezuela announces terrorism charges against alleged US 'spy'
Saab said Heath had worked as a mercenary in Iraq from 2006 to 2016 for MVM Inc, a Virginia-based private security contracting company. The firm did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Bolivia: Socialist Presidential Candidate Keeps Leading Polls
The private company Markets and Samples' recent poll shows Arce in first place with a forecast of 25 percent of the votes in favor.Over the last week, Añez's vote intention fell from 12 to 8 percent. Meanwhile, however, the pro-regime "We Believe" Alliance candidate Fernando Camacho climbed from eighth to sixth place, and now he stands alongside the leader of the coup-born regime.
Israel bombs Gaza after rocket fire follows UAE, Bahrain deals
The Israeli military carried out a series of air raids on the besieged Gaza Strip on Wednesday after rockets were fired into Israel during a "normalisation" of ties signing ceremony with the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain in the United States.
Palestine Action extend protest against Israeli weapons manufacturer
AN ISRAELI arms factory in Staffordshire remained occupied for a third day today while the Palestine activists extended the protest to two of the company’s sites in London.Elbit makes parts for military drones which campaigners say have been used to attack Gaza in Palestine.
‘Traitor to farmers!’ Protesters rally against proposed fur farming ban outside ruling party’s HQ in Warsaw
Disgruntled farmers have gathered in the Polish capital to denounce a bill that would ban breeding animals for fur. Protesters say it will endanger their livelihoods, while the government argues they had enough time to prepare.
Wikileaks documents caused no harm to US informants, Assange extradition hearing told
Giving evidence by video link at the Old Bailey, Mr Goetz said that he worked closely with Assange and other media partners on the Afghan war documents leak in 2010.
German state suspends 29 police officers in far-right online chat group
Twenty-nine German police officers have been suspended and face investigation on suspicion they exchanged far-right propaganda in online chat groups. Police union representatives called the revelation "unbearable."
WATCH: Aussie cops leave man in coma after ramming him with car & kicking him IN THE HEAD during violent arrest
The man, identified as Timothy Atkins, reportedly lives with bipolar disorder and had been waiting for more than a day for mental health help inside the nearby Northern Hospital in Epping, just north of Melbourne, before he gave up and walked out.
India pushes supplies to disputed China border ahead of winter
India's military has activated its entire logistics network to transport supplies to thousands of troops ahead of a harsh winter along a bitterly disputed Himalayan border with China, as New Delhi blamed Beijing for the worst border standoff in decades.
Brazil: Matto Grosso Declares Emergency Over Pantanal Fires
In the last 48 hours, more than 8.900 hotspots were registered, and the smoke is expected to head towards the southeast of Brazil, Bolivia, and Paraguay as well as the northeast of Argentina by Thursday.
Ice shelves propping up two major Antarctic glaciers are breaking up
The Pine Island and Thwaites glaciers, which sit side-by-side in West Antarctica on the Amundsen Sea, are among the fastest-changing glaciers in the region, already accounting for 5% of global sea-level rise, CNN said.
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How different would human society have become if female homo sapiens were physically stronger and taller on average than their male counterparts in adulthood? What kind of idpol would exist? Would feminism still exist? Would humans still go through the exact same economic stages?
Futurama had an episode comically exploring this idea:
Note: you have no right to lock this thread with bullshit double standards if you're leaving to leave clickbait sensationalist threads like >>876195
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I miss him so much, fren.
How did his successors managed To destroy everything He and Lenin built up?
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What the actual fuck is wrong with these dumb n*ggers? Maybe I'm at fault for ever placing value in a fucking subreddit but I honestly thought they had some decent politics at one point. The mods are such cunts that you honestly have to wonder if they're infiltrated. Glowies post with impunity and blatant racists are flaired as "leftcoms" while actually constructive posters are harassed by the mods until they leave.
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Post right-wing/liberal memes, media, talking points, etc. that you want debunked
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The Theory of Leisure Class
Was that a based book or what? Also anyone find that pic criticize communism or crapitalism?
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>Behind the port lay the city, factory domes dominated by the vast cubes of corporate arcologies. Port and city were divided by a narrow borderland of older streets, an area with no official name... By day, the bars... were shuttered and featureless, the neon dead, the holograms inert, waiting, under the poisoned silver sky.
>An arm of shadow was uncoiling from the flickering floor below, a i agreeing mass of darkness, unformed, shapeless... sensory input warped with their velocity. His mouth filled with an aching taste of blue. His eyes were eggs of unstable crystal, vibrating with a frequency whose name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming forest of hair-fine glass spines. The spines split, bisected, split again, exponential growth under the dome...
you don't need to watch a futuristic sci fi dystopian movie anon... you're living in one
Seriously, how will 2020 get even crazier?
respond with at least 1 scenario. Aliens. Nuclear war. Let it all out
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Capital Volumr II
Did anyone learn anything from this? Really all I got was the circulation process, productive money, fluid, constant etc. capital and the rate of surplus value. What are your thoughts on it?
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What the heck is "NazCentBol"? I just found this out from a friend who has been spamming this new topic on Twitter.
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Small business owner here. If worker cooperatives are more productive than conventional businesses, with staff working better and smarter and production organised more efficiently, then they would have dominated the market. It didn't happen even in the times of true capitalism, when corporations were forbidden. This honestly just proves workers don't have the know-how of collecting capital for bigger investments and making strategic decisions. Also, who has time for thinking about it. Workers might have some good first line observations so a good manager should listen to them to some extent, but otherwise they have no knowledge or time to think about running a company. And while there are a few intelligent people among them, who could have done PhDs in different circuimstances, most of them are daft beyond imagination, and you would have known that if you actually worked in factories or warehouses for a bit longer.
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WHEN WILL THIS PIECE OF SHIT FINALLY BE TAKEN OFF THE WEB!?!?!?
Holy shit I honestly don't know if there's a worse radioactive glowie shithole on the internet, like, yea, Facebook is more pernicious and insidious, but Reddit, holy fuck Reddit, it's like a gathering of the most autistic, arrogant, easily offended, narcissistic, easily manipulated retards online. Maybe it's because the Facebook glow of real life profiles makes me avoid it and I don't see the morons, but holy shit Reddit is the only website I've personally witnessed where almost every single person that uses it genuinely deserves to die fuck, a quarter of Plebbitors are probably feds so it's fair.
All I wanna know is if this piece of shit will go the way of a bunch of the websites and startups that burned with the Dotcom Crash?
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The right has literally regressed to just calling everything they don't like pedo. I think the idea is to signal amplify shit like #SaveOurChildren and #CancelNetflix then tie in Joseph Rosenbaum and finally scream pedo at everything they don't like. Pretty much everything out of the rightoids now is either "Kyle is a hero! Riots suck!" or "All leftists are pedo!" I just wanted to see leftypol's thoughts on how to deal with this phase of political warfare now that the rightoids are in this regressed mental state and feedback loop.
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Hinterlands : America's New Landscape on Class and Conflict
Anybody else read this? Thoughts?
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Why are so many /pol/oids not white? Sorry if this falls under idpol, I'm just wondering why they're self hating. Like, why would you be a brown Nazi?
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The patheticness of the zoomer/millenial right.
I had a conversation with an online rightist where I simply just asked "why the fuck is there no counter protests against BLM" and all that they said was that "they were just burning down the big cities". I always thought that this was a bit of a cope, but whenever I try to press a right-winger to explain their shit, they always seem to just sort of ignore my points and ignore me as a whole. I asked why do they think they're edgy and I get no responses and I asked why aren't they doing anything and still no real response outside of calling me a fed. Why are liberals so afraid of these people? It seems like a bunch of LARP to me really, even your basic-bitch skinnyfat radlib has more guts than these guys.
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The real 9/11
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Nazabol is a mix beetween NazBol radicalist and NASAKOM ideology, NASAKOM stands ffor nationalist, religios and communism exept NAZABOL is NASAKOM with NAZBOL nadicalist ultra nationalist
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Is he right?
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Daily Reminder: Cockshottism is the Marxism-Lenninism of the 21st Century
Just like Marxism was an updated version of Classical Liberalism. If you call yourself a Marxist-Lenninist in the present day you deserve to be slapped. It's like Marx calling himself a Classical Liberal.
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Anybody have that comic about marxism on pdf? Its like marxism for dummies. Its an excellent piece of propaganda for new friends who are interested about communism and i want to show it to an american who i met at work to radicalize him.
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locked : shitpost that attracts shit posts.
jared Kushner is a transgender woman. dont ask me why, im just posting it here. dont reply
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The Truth about the Stasi and Grenztruppen
Did the Grenztruppen really shot people who crossed the border illegally? Did the West do the same?
Was the Stasi really spying on its citizen?
I'm asking because I am seeing a resurgence in anti-GDR terms and ideas in the discourse of the people I know. Is there another shitty propaganda series à la Chernobyl that came out recently?
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The year is 2025. Mitch mcconell, who ran against donald trump after switching to the democratic party, has been elected president. Subsequently, the american people gave up hope for reformism, a mass suicide occurred in texas, california's coastline fell into the ocean, yellowstone blew up, alaska was purchased by china, hawaii declared independence, IRA-tier guerrilla warfare is taking place in the cities and the two-party fascist dictatorship has declared wrongthink to be punishable by ten years of prison-gulag-camp slavery.
You are broke. You have a family that has just enough money to stay off the street, but you're incapable of even basic tasks after your brain got fried from the lead in the water supply. You only speak english.
What country would you migrate to in order to escape?
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The Levy Institute assumes the economy is a rainbow, and concludes that debt forgiveness is a free pot of gold.
>According to the Levy Institute paper, authored by economists Scott Fullwiler, Stephanie Kelton, Catherine Ruetschlin, and Marshall Steinbaum, canceling all student debt would increase GDP by between $86 billion and $108 billion per year, over the next decade. This would add between 1.2 and 1.5 million jobs to the economy, and reduce the unemployment rate by between 0.22 and 0.36 percent. Oh man, those are big numbers. And we're basically already at full employment. How on earth are they getting those numbers? Let's find out!
Looks like they have four main modeling scenarios. Two Fair (note: not actually fair. Named after a Dr. Fair) models and two Moody's models. The Moody's model is like a middle ground between a pure VAR regression model and a DSGE style of model. Nothing super interesting or controversial, I guess, beyond that
<Macro forecasting is on the borderline of being badeconomics in and of itself
But fine. The Fair model... let's see... ummm...
>Whereas the Moody’s model has a self-described “Classical core”—or long-run assumptions based upon estimated supplyside fundamentals—to complement a more “Keynesian” short run, the Fair model is more traditionally Keynesian throughout. In contrast to the Moody’s model, Fair’s econometric studies have rejected the so-called nonaccelerating inflation rate of unemployment (NAIRU) dynamics. To be more precise, Fair finds that the more accurate relationship between inflation and unemployment is nonlinear, whereby inflation is not very responsive to unemployment rates across a wide range, but could become much steeper at very low unemployment rates, perhaps around 2 percent (that is, at very low unemployment rates, inflation could rise substantially). To be clear, though, with so few real-world observations, Fair’s econometric studies were not able to entirely confirm or reject the likelihood of a steep rise in inflation at very low unemployment rates (Fair 2013, 147–60).
So the Fair model basically denies that NAIRU exists. It concedes that maaaaaybe around 2% unemployment you might see some inflation, but that basically you can just keep lowering U3 without ever hitting bottom. Full employment at 4% isn't really a thing, you can always go deeper. This is pretty far from standard macroeconomics as far as I'm aware. So the paper looks at two Fair models and two Moody's models. Both Fair and Moody's have a version where the Fed sees the stimulative action taken and reacts, and one where the Fed is asleep does nothing.
Pic related is the results of the four models
Unsurprisingly, the Fair models show big effects either way. If you assume that full employment isn't a thing and NAIRU is a dirty lie until 2% or lower, then stimulus is stimulative. Who knew? The Moody's model shows big effects if the Fed is asleep. If the Fed is awake, as they tend to be, then the effects are relatively tiny. I wonder what's a more realistic assumption - that a Fed with 4% unemployment is jumpy about inflation, or that they'll just ignore a gigantic stimulus?
If you take the most realistic scenario, this is something like 20B per year GDP growth - about a tenth of a percent. Probably not different from statistical noise given the complexity of the models we're working with here. Is that the estimate that makes it into the abstract? hahahahahahahaha no.
It gets a little bit worse even. Under the realistic Moody's model with a realistically awake Fed, there's a large stimulative impact very early on, and then actually lowered growth, fewer jobs, and higher unemployment than baseline once the Fed has 'caught up' a couple years down the road. If they hadn't stopped measuring at a 10-year impact, there's a good chance that the most realistic model would actually turn negative on net!
<Deep Macro forecasting is automatically semi-bad economics
<The headline numbers in the abstract come from a model that assumes NAIRU doesn't exist
<And also that the Fed is just asleep and ignoring all debt forgiveness that takes place
<And the most realistic model actually shows negligible impact that turns negative in the long run
Commie arbage in, commie garbage out.
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on some myths abt Nazis
Prescott Bush and Harriman weren't 'funding Hitler', they were hiding Fritz Thyssen's money from the Germans after he sold out, Germany nationalized his company, and threw him in jail.
The Union Banking Corporation was set up in 1924, long before Hitler was in charge of anything, to manage Thyssen's investments in America.
So if they did anything, they sat on his money to keep making money off it instead of turning it over to the US government.
Gee, that's crazy that bankers would do that, huh. Has anyone else figured this out before?
Nobody just reads a sequence of events and then gathers from that what went on, they drop the sequence of events and give you a narrative.
The other part of this Thyssen thing is the 'I Paid Hitler' book wasn't written by Thyssen, it was written by Churchill's literary agent Emery Reves. E.S.T.
And in case anyone is wondering, yes, I am implying that the CIA & its forbears the OSS crafted a cover story (incidentally entirely after the fact) for what amounted to disastrous (nearly World-breaking) U.S. foreign interference in ostensibly allied sovereign nations
I have nothing more to say, now go brush your teeth
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If he dies..
What's the chance that if picrel dies (heart attack/stroke), the qoomers go nuts and claim that he was assassinated by the deep state/satanists/etc rather than being a 75 year old man who eats greasy fast food every single day.
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Would you say Napoleon was good or evil?
Was he a historical hero or historical villain?
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Why do /pol/acks like to use this ''fren'' image
why do they depict themselves as chubby and ugly little frogs?
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So...are you anon's going to raise your children to be communists?
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>be recent college graduate
>make 75k/year, after taxes/rent/bills/grocery I have maybe 2.5k left over
>live pretty frugally, don't go out to eat that much, cook a lot of my meals, make my own coffee, live in the suburbs (1.2k rent for a solo apartment), budget appropriately and hold off on buying shit if it breaks my budget. Right now at 1.3k left over due to buying some language learning services and a new laptop
>still feel like I'm barely getting by, can't afford to buy all the nice things I need unless I dip into my savings
How the fuck do people who get paid less live a decent life? I feel like I barely make enough to have a comfortable existence, any less and my quality in life would make me seriously depressed. For that matter, my salary is above average for my area. I don't even live in an expensive city either (Houston), how do people in bigger, more expensive cities do it? God forbid you're on minimum wage, you're absolutely fucked in that case. America is so fucked for poor people it's insane...
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This kills the gommie
So you like Communism, kid?
Well try and come up with a counterargument for this:
MARX FAILED TO CONSIDER
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Please waste not ime on Hegel!
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Time Value of Money
One of the things Austrian critics of the LTV and modern finance theory have in common is the idea that money made on interest is not just extractive exploitation but is compensation for the 'time value of money'.
Let me explain. According to finance theory, money now is worth more than money later. Because you can use money now to invest in something or spend, getting for example 100$ right now is worth less than getting $100 in three years, even with no inflation.
example: a Business invests $25k in a project (C0) that earns $30k over 3 years. But you could have used that money to earn 5% on a stonk/loan/whatever. So the $30k revenue is actually only worth about $27k in today's dollars. So you are only making 2.2k not 5k because you're accounting for the time value of money.
And according to them this is why charging interest on loans is justified, because its just equal compensation for the time value of money from the lender's perspective.
How does /leftypol/ address this? Is there such a thing as time value of money or is this just made up booj nonsense to justify rents/interest? How does this square with the LTV?
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Are you ready for the biggest financial mistake in human history?
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Coronavirus reinfection is possible now
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Former Vaushoid here. I've been trying to read actual theory instead of just letting my brain rot to Vaush streams, but I still find myself stuck in this "market socialist" shit that vaushoids regurgitate. I don't know how to refute any of it because I'm an utter fucking retard and have 0 reading comprehension. Can someone help summarize why Vaush is wrong? Not trying to get people to win my internal argument for me or anything, I just want some input.
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How do I cope with living in an actual anarchocapitalist hellhole?
My country is like a neutral colony owned by the whole world. Owned by the Americans, the Chinese, the Russians, the Arabs, the EU and now Israel (we are moving our embassy to Jerusalem). It's like the wild west here, anyone can come here and do what they want and there is nobody to say no. Factory workers are often unpaid for months without repercussions and are forced to wear DIAPERS because they don't get bathroom breaks. My country may not be officially ancapistan, but it is effectively so. There is no rule of law; it is owned by foreign states, foreign corporations and the domestic mafia. Worst of all there is almost no revolutionary zeal, people have developed an almost like Stockholm syndrome.
At least I can say ancaps are fucking retards because I literally live in the best counter-argument against their ideology.
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Reminder some of you supported this mentally disabled man. Tried to find the thread, but it was probably under some retarded name ya'll know for him because you lap this shit up.
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post audio and video news
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Why does many on leftypol hate this legend? He was right about Tito, Khrushchev and Mao.
Give him a read sometime.
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Kind of inspired by a post in /USA/
Reminder to start community farms as well as ones for yourself. If any sort of revolution, civil war, whatever happens in the States, infrastructure will be destroyed and since production is so divided, you will have actual troubles even getting food. This is why you seriously need to produce your own and produce for your community. Self sufficiency is needed for any revolution, as it shows that the workers don't need porky.
ITT: Post advice for starting a farm, discuss and add on to the OP, etc.
pic semi related
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Trips fills out my ballot.
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This thread is dedicated to the the debate and discussion of race realism. As OP, I will be arguing in support of race realism.
Why do people reject race realism?
Race exists. It is scientific, biological fact.
>Lynn's 2006 Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis is the largest review of the global cognitive ability data. The book organises the data by nine global regions, surveying 620 published studies from around the world, with a total of 813,778 tested individuals.
>Lynn's meta-analysis lists the average IQ scores of East Asians (105), Europeans (99), Inuit (91), Southeast Asians and Amerindians each (87), Pacific Islanders ( 85), Middle Easterners (including South Asians and North Africans) (84), East and West Africans (67), Australian Aborigines (62) and Bushmen and Pygmies (54).
Do pigmentation and the melanocortin system modulate aggression and sexuality in humans as they do in other animals?
Blacks are 55x more likely of having the "warrior Gene"that makes you violent and crazy
>5.5% of Black men, 0.1% of Caucasian men, and 0.00067% of Asian men carried the 2R allele
50% of Whites have the empathy gene compared to 10% of blacks
Intelligence is mostly inherited, blacks score on average 1 standard deviation or below whites on IQ tests meaning far more are near retard level while only a microscopic number can be called "geniuses"
Humans can be genetically categorized into five racial groups, corresponding to traditional races.
"Human genetic variation is geographically structured" and corresponds with race.
Race can be determined via genetics with certainty for >99.8% of individuals.
Oral bacteria can be used to determine race.
Race can be determined via brain scans.
There was "minimal gene flow" between archaic Europeans and Asians.
Common-sense racial categories have biological meaning.
Human intelligence is highly heritable.
Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public.
Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100.
Arguments Regarding the Existence of Races
Biological Differences Between the Races
JayMan’s Race, Inheritance, and IQ F.A.Q.
Any counter arguments to the factual evidence I have provided above?
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I would like to remind my fellow posters that this is not dead. Far from it, the last article being posted in June. So I wanted to make a dedicated thread to maybe serve as a hub for the project. To come up with ideas for articles, see if their is any threads that could be searched through and made into a article, see if any anon already have anything written up. Also come up with ways to promote it, places to promote it and etc. Also reminder that if you do want something featured I would recommend not only posting it on this thread, but also emailing them at [email protected]
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What are your thoughts on this?
Surely improving the quality of households will be desirable in a socialist society?
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ok lets settle this one and for all
>>was pic related based?
>>what was his biggest mistake?
>>could he have survived?
>>what if he actually unified africa and its currency?
Since his death libya became ancapistan2.0 is there an alternative?
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racial bait threads
to all autists: please stop shitting up the board with race-idpol threads.
We unfortunately have a big problem with libertarian/pol/schizos crossposters making bait threads randomly talking about race shit
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why are market socialists such CHADS who always win?
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deep ecology thread
peda-power-generated electricity is the future of mankind.
domestic farming and gardening is the hope of mankind
also every family should just build their own houses,no more luxury or tall apartments
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Marx was the worst thing that happened to the left. We got literal slave societies instead of freedom and equality. Proudhons philosophy was the natural path towards communism after the french revolution.
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So how good are North Korea hackers, really? We know they can basically make a toy out of South Korean military cybersecurity and are capable of targeting corporations in America. They are also able to steal hundreds of millions scot-free through banking schemes to assist in funding. Are they really a global threat in this capacity? Are they better than the Russians?
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Shitty Political Compas Memes
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redpill me on dresden
How do /pol/lacks bring up the bombing of this nazihole As if it was somehow compared to the holocaust and the eastern front?
many people even on the left are starting to swallow thier bullshit.
Is the german government willing to do any thing about the yearly nazi march in dresden?
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What countries are the least fucked by neoliberalism that are still reasonably "developed"?
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Summary of idpol lib brain rot in one image
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What is this, and why do anarchists use the term so much?
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The fuck is up with this man?
He preaches about all the faults of markets yet he promotes a market socialist system.
Help me understand this.
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What is the history of Western capitalist aligned intelligence agencies fighting their allies?
There was apparently a rivalry between the CIA and FBI during the Cold War.
Anyone read this book?
Apparently there was infighting between the CIA and NSA as well:
To what extent does this sort of infighting exist today? Any infighting between intel agencies of different countries, e.g. MI6 vs. CIA?
Do foreign agencies like those in Russia or China try and exacerbate these wedges?
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Has anyone read The Shadow of the Panther?
How much of it is bullshit?
Its main allegations:
>the falling out between the Panther leaders happened naturally, it wasnt due to FBI interference,
>Huey Newton shot some hooker in the face and pistol whipped some tailor
> Huey apparently beat and sodomized Bobby Seale when he expelled him from the group (defintiely seems like bullshit)
>the breakfasts were only used by the kids for the hot coffee which was used to drink their drugs called "reds" with, the food was basically untouched
>The Panthers acted as a gang, running a protection racket on local businesses
>the panthers assassinated betty van patter
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Global Capitalism Update
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opinion on black pigeon speaks?
I get recomendation from 4glowies to watch this guy. Along with the alt hype and murdoch murdoch.
I just need help to debunk any video they made
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Is there a personality or group that have detailed how Communism could come about in detailed present day real world logistics? And how it would actually look when succeeded in day to day life, and covering all potential pit falls?
The closest I've seen are some pod casters saying "Join a blue collar job. Unionize. Run for local office. Then... communism?"
"Vote bernie. Get healthcare. Get basic income. Get people used to and expect government welfare. Then... communism?"
I'm not expecting serious logicians or armchair generals going over specific stats and figures. But I can't even find larpers writing fanfiction.
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US officials concerned by potential for war crime charges over Saudi arms sales: Report
Several US officials have hired private lawyers over fears they could be arrested and charged with war crimes while travelling abroad over the sale of US weapons to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates which are used in the war in Yemen.
Mexican farmers occupy dam to stop water payments to the United States
Today, the 1944 agreement is facing increasingly violent opposition in drought-parched Chihuahua state, where protesters have seized control of a major dam to dramatize the plight of farmers whose cotton, tomato and pecan crops, they say, depend on the water that’s being sent north.
Palestine Action occupies roof of arms factory in protest against weapon sales to Israel
The protesters from the Palestine Action group poured red paint down the walls of the UAV Engines factory at Shenstone in Staffordshire to represent the blood shed by Palestinians in Israeli attacks.
Palestinian leaders to reconsider relations with Arab League
Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammed Ishtayeh said on Monday that his government will present a recommendation to President Mahmoud Abbas to reconsider relations with the Arab League, after two of the body's members - the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Bahrain - agreed to normalise relations with Israel.
Lib Dems drop mayoral contender over antisemitic comment about Jack Straw
It shows Sidhu-Robb telling a reporter that Labour had accused her of being anti-Islam, and that in response she would “get into a car and walk around, and drive through town telling everyone Jack Straw is a Jew”, adding: “How is a Muslim going to vote for someone who is Jewish?”
Black and Jewish socialists call on Starmer to make equal effort to tackle all forms of racism in the party
They added that both Ms Long-Bailey and Ms Peake are “good anti-racist comrades who do not deserve to be tarred with the brush of anti-semitism.”The letter continues: “We call on all socialists to reject the conflation of opposition to the existing racist structure of Israel’s regime with anti-semitism.
Colombia: 58 Officers Under Investigation for Police Brutality
Colombia's authorities Monday announced that 58 police officers are under investigation for allegedly shooting protesters during the anti-police brutality demonstrations that have shaken Bogota over the past week.
Greece to build permanent migrant centre to replace Moria
Greece says it will build a permanent reception centre for migrants and refugees on the island of Lesbos, to replace the destroyed Moria camp.
Honduras Calls for Primary Elections Amid Political Controversy
Honduras' National Electoral Council (CNE) President Ana Hall called on political parties to choose their candidates ahead of the 2021 primary elections amid controversies over the absence of a new electoral law.
Cuba sends 'white coat army' of doctors to fight coronavirus in different countries
While the virus was overwhelming healthcare systems worldwide, the Communist-run Caribbean island boasted a rare resource: a surplus of doctors trained in deploying abroad and battling infectious disease.
Anti-Maskers Ordered to Dig Graves for COVID-19 Victims in Indonesia
Eight men who refused to wear face masks in public have been ordered to dig graves for COVID-19 victims as a punishment in Indonesia.The province of East Java is cracking down on the wearing of face masks in a bid to stem the rise in coronavirus cases.
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Black guy here, I've noticed the Threads about Black people are significantly lower than That of /POL/
Keep it up White men
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MOOCS and distance learning
In the 2010s there was a huge hype around open source courses, that anyone in the world could get a tp university tier education just by having Stanford professors record some lectures or w/e. Now with Covid-19, almost ALL education is effectively online.
What does /leftypol/ think of this and what role would distance education play under socialism?
And why didn't MOOCs like udemy/coursera/edx become college-replacers like people thought??
Will COVID-19 accelerate this or actually turn people off distance education?
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Class and evolution
In a country with little to no class mobility, rigid classes and very different environmental pressures for the elite and working classes, over time would this not mean that both classes would look, act and maybe even think differently?
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making fake antifa documents/orders and sending them to epoch times and similar
probably nothing will happen even if we do this but it would be funny as shit if some of them actually thought it was serious. maybe for inspiration u can use that one screenshot of a 4ch post i saw around here a few days ago talking about how we had colonels and shit
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>The year is 2021
>Biden is President
>The economy is completely destroyed and half the population unemployed
>Covid shows no chance of stopping
>This is the fault of the Republicans. To uphold democracy, the military in Biden's name marches on Washington and storms congress
>Biden is proclaimed Chairman of the Democratic States of America
>He mysteriously dies from a heart attack 1 month later
>We all now live under Chairwoman Kamala
>QBoomers start lone wolf attacks and start shooting cops
>Libs support the diversity of the dictator
>Thousands die every day from starvation or the disease
>Wall Street keeps getting bailed out
>Leftists say "Yeah but we still vote democrat, it's them or fascism. Keep vooting comrades!"
Post your predictions
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I am a market socialist and am wondering is there any other socialist model that isn't going to fail?
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Hey /leftypol/ I was wondering if anyone here has served in the army or is currently in it I'm currently scheduled to ship out for training in the near future and I want your two cents on it
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Tito Vs Hoxha
Who was right?
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socialist majority in EU parliament
I am Canadian, and increasingly, we regard the US as a failed project. We are beginning to turn away from the US, and watching them fail feels a lot like a close friend of relative has died or is dying of a terminal disease. Why do Europeans continue with the American economic program of neoliberalism? As far as I can tell, the EU Parliament and EU council has a "Christian Democrat/Conservative" majority. Why is this? Isn't it time to turn the EU red and face eastward and southward, towards the growing economies of Africa, China, and Russia? We are reorienting around the North Pacific, away from the North Atlantic.
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Are there any that aren't extreme right? Not even leftist but just support you know basic democratic principles or something?
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what even is a commie
What exactly does it mean to to you when you call yourself a communist?
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Some antifa cell got hacked by 4chan, thots?
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/Depression/ /Feels/ /Reals/ Thread
Before you delete this mods like you deleted the last one, let me state my case for the existence of this thread.
1) It is of MATERIAL BENEFIT to alienated members of the proletariat i.e. the posters of this board, to be able to discuss their mental health issues.
2) Leftypol is unique in that it can provide a place for this with like minded people, who can understand where they are coming from better, as they are also communists. Furthermore, /leftypol/ is unique in that it is anonymous
3) In most of the countries in the which these people live, mental health services are shit
4) Chan posters are prone to poor mental health
5) Improved board mental health will improve quality of board over all.
6) Comrades can help each other along, and also express solidarity. Solidarity will improve board health. Perhaps there won't be so many furious autistic posts if we have an environment of solidarity.
7) At the end of the day, near enough all, if not outright all, of these mental health problems are caused by capitalism and the environment it creates, so the discussion is going to tend to be around capitalism and ways to navigate capitalism.
Lock it if you must and it can be a gulag, but plz do not delete.
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Civilization and Its Discontents
>The communists believe that they have found the path to deliverance from our evils. According to them, man is wholly good and is well-disposed to his neighbour; but the institution of private property has corrupted his nature. The ownership of private wealth gives the individual power, and with it the temptation to ill-treat his neighbour; while the man who is excluded from possession is bound to rebel in hostility against his oppressor. If private property were abolished, all wealth held in common, and everyone allowed to share in the enjoyment of it, ill-will and hostility would disappear among men. Since everyone’s needs would be satisfied, no one would have any reason to regard another as his enemy; all would willingly undertake the work that was necessary. I have no concern with any economic criticisms of the communist system; I cannot enquire into whether the abolition of private property is expedient or advantageous.* But I am able to recognize that the psychological premises on which the system is based are an untenable illusion. In abolishing private property we deprive the human love of aggression of one of its instruments, certainly a strong one, though certainly not the strongest; but we have in no way altered the differences in power and influence which are misused by aggressiveness, nor have we altered anything in its nature. Aggressiveness was not created by property. It reigned almost without limit in primitive times, when property was still very scanty, and it already shows itself in the nursery almost before property has given up its primal, anal form; it forms the basis of every relation of affection and love among people (with the single exception, perhaps, of the mother’s relation to her male child). If we do away with personal rights over material wealth, there still remains prerogative in the field of sexual relationships, which is bound to become the source of the strongest dislike and the most violent hostility among men who in other respects are on an equal footing. If we were to remove this factor, too, by allowing complete freedom of sexual life and thus abolishing the family, the germ-cell of civilization, we cannot, it is true, easily foresee what new paths the development of civilization could take; but one thing we can expect, and that is that this indestructible feature of human nature, will follow it there.
What could be a counter-argument to this?
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Arab/Muslim World Marxists
Any works by Marxists from the Arab/Muslim World that I should took note of? The Muslim World alongside Africa and Southeast Asia has so little information about it's Marxist movement and writings, at least with SEA we have the Vietnam Anon, Singaporean Anon, the Thai Anon and the Indonesian Anon gives us info in the SEA general.