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Best Twitter Accounts to Follow Comrade 08/07/2019 (Wed) 17:31:02 No. 15716 [Reply]
Here is a list of excellent twitter accounts. Most are Marxist, some anarchist, some classical Sy Hersh style conspiracy theorists, some a mix. Some are major political figures like Cuba's president, Maduro, or Khamenei. You follow these people because you want to learn shit that you will never hear about on /leftypol/, Reddit, or MSM. They are serious researchers and theorists. Please don't go and fuck with them, many block trolls and idiots on sight due to the amount of retards and shills who are on twitter. Don't follow them for an echo chamber or to reaffirm your worlview (unless you are already a proper Marxist Leninist). Many of them disagree with each other, myself, and you on a number of issues.
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https://twitter.com/OLAASM #AbolishTheUSA (@OLAASM)
https://twitter.com/NovaShpakova ☭Nova🍒Shpakova☭ (@NovaShpakova)
https://twitter.com/RenyTay 📚pedagogy in black✊🏾🇵🇸 (@RenyTay)
https://twitter.com/izak_novak 🔸 Izak Novák 🔸 (@izak_novak)
https://twitter.com/mixedforestzone 66th (@mixedforestzone)
https://twitter.com/FeralCherub A timely, clever pun (@FeralCherub)
https://twitter.com/a_lutacontinua a_lutacontinua// (@a_lutacontinua)
https://twitter.com/Loskene Ad Astra Per Aspera (@Loskene)
https://twitter.com/yung_mung Alex (@yung_mung)
https://twitter.com/Ali_Kourani Ali (@Ali_Kourani)
https://twitter.com/shaikhecon Anwar Shaikh (@shaikhecon)
https://twitter.com/pomobobomofo Bea Arthur death cult (@pomobobomofo)
https://twitter.com/BigTimeCommie Big Time Shark Advocate 🦈 (@BigTimeCommie)
https://twitter.com/blkagendareport Black Agenda Report (@blkagendareport)
https://twitter.com/blindpigII blindpigii (@blindpigII)

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Fuck off old BO, twitter is brainlet trash
a lot of these people have posted radlib takes before
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He ded F 08/10/2019 (Sat) 13:19:53 No. 21773 [Reply]
Edited last time by krates on 08/11/2019 (Sun) 12:15:19.
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Straight from newsanon's thread:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jeffrey-epstein-death-latest-guards-fell-asleep-fake-records-new-york-conspiracy-a9056696.html
>Prison guards assigned to monitor Jeffrey Epstein on the night he apparently killed himself fell asleep and failed to check on him for three hours before falsifying records to cover up their neglect, according to officials.
Could the guards have been drugged?
>>29240
That nypost link has a story attached about the Israeli government kidnapping some GoT actress's baby in the midst of all this.

I think my brain is going to melt tbh.
Watched BBC's News at 10 a few hours back and silly Prince Andrew is desperately trying to distance himself from the shitstorm.
American media shuts down the Epstein story
>>35822
>https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/08/19/epst-a19.html

By Patrick Martin
19 August 2019

>The corporate-controlled media in the United States has effectively shut down all reporting on the death of the politically connected multi-millionaire sex-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, only one week after his body was discovered in a prison cell in the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan.

>Epstein’s death was the most widely reported American event in the first few days of the week, with hours of coverage on cable television, the lead story on nightly network news programs, and pages upon pages of reporting in the New York Times, Washington Post and other leading daily newspapers.

>There was ample reason for such attention, particularly by the standards of the sensation-obsessed American media. Epstein was, at least by reputation, both fabulously wealthy and dangerously predatory. He travelled in the highest circles of bourgeois society, hobnobbing with ex-presidents, future presidents, British royalty and numerous billionaires, some of whom he claimed to have enriched enormously.

>And his crimes against teenage girls and young women had already resulted in a 2008 felony conviction that led to a slap on the wrist in jail time, in keeping with his status as a member of the class of super-rich “money managers.” Only hours before his death, moreover, 2,000 pages of new documents were released linking many prominent world figures, including Prince Andrew and several top Democrats, to Epstein’s sex-trafficking activities.

>As to the death itself, that was sensational as well, with questions aplenty: How did it happen that after an alleged suicide attempt on July 23 Epstein was taken off suicide watch only six days later and returned to the cell where he died? Why was his cellmate removed, in violation of the normal protocol for a high-risk prisoner, only a few hours before his death? Why did the guards fail to do their rounds during the night of Epstein’s death, when they should have been checking on him every half an hour? Why was Epstein’s hyoid bone broken in several places, a medical finding more typical of homicide by strangulation than suicide by hanging, according to numerous experts?

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>>35823
>On Thursday came the revelation that Epstein’s hyoid bone had been broken in several places, which experts suggested was more typical in homicides than suicides. The Times again sought to tamp down speculation. Finally, on Friday, the chief medical examiner, who had delayed for several days drawing a conclusion, issued a formal finding that Epstein died a suicide. The corporate media immediately rubber-stamped this finding and sought to shut down any public questioning of it.

>This was done so thoroughly that on Sunday, August 18, there was not a single reference to Epstein’s death on any of the five television interview programs. Over five hours of broadcast time, accounting, according to the transcripts, for 45,000 spoken words, the name Epstein was never mentioned.

>This media silence is itself perhaps the most suspicious development in the entire Epstein case. Why was there no reference to the story which riveted public attention for several days last week? It had occasioned tweets by President Trump accusing various Democrats of collusion in his death, and statements by Democrats, such as New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, a candidate for president, that the timing of Epstein’s death was “too convenient.”

>If this had become a non-story only eight days after Epstein’s lifeless body was found, the question must be asked: what is the American media seeking to hide?

>Again, the New York Times has taken the lead in the cover-up. It published a lengthy front-page story in its Sunday edition under the headline, “Epstein Feared Misery of Jail in His Final Days,” which has only one purpose: further shoring up the suicide verdict by painting a picture of Epstein as so desperate to avoid spending time in his cell that he brought his lawyers in for hours of consultation where he could sit in a conference room.

>The circumstances detailed by no less than seven reporters can be read quite differently from the conclusion drawn in the article. Perhaps Epstein was desperate to avoid his cell because he feared what was going to happen to him there. After all, he had barely escaped with his life on July 23.

>Moreover, the Times reports: “Outside the meeting room, Mr. Epstein mounted a strategy to avoid being preyed upon by other inmates: He deposited money in their commissary accounts, according to a consultant who is often in the jail and speaks regularly with inmates there.” This again suggests fear on Epstein’s part of what others might do to him in prison.

>Epstein’s own lawyers have indicated they do not accept the finding of suicide. “The defense team fully intends to conduct its own independent and complete investigation into the circumstances and cause of Mr. Epstein’s death,” they said in a statement. “We are not satisfied with the conclusions of the medical examiner.”

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Anarkiddy Cringe Thread Comrade 08/09/2019 (Fri) 18:49:05 No. 20283 [Reply]
since shitposting seems to be acceptable >>18603
and this isn't their only thread
let's have some fun
anarchists just wallow in their own feces and squat in rat infested molding ruins pretending they're being revolutionary before they eventually get tired of waking up with the smell of beer and puke around them, go back to their dad for an allowance, get a job and vote liberals after "growing up"
why the fuck are they even allowed here? they have shit "theory" most of them don't even read and can hardly be considered any more "leftist" than radlibs over on reddit
ITT
post anarkiddy cringe posts and tell them to fuck off
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>Calls people defending the USSR tankies
>Equalizes the USSR to Fash
>Holds third-world socialist countries to first world standards
>certainly not an orientalist
>Historically retarded >Refuses to read Marxist theory
>Calls himself a Marxist, only cares about first-world middle class
>Thinks revolution will have take place within a century, Climate Change?
>Believes in Market Socialism, Climate Change??
>Thinks a centrally planned economy is authoritarian??
>If USSR strongk why not exist anymore, huuuuuuuh??
> Thinks the material conditions care about his feelz
>>35739
Third worldists really do have a point, western leftists are fucking useless.
breadtube more in like inbreadtube
>>35739
God damn I fucking hate this guy, he can make great points sometimes but he's really a toxic asshole most of the time
>>35771
sandwichtube?

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screenshot thread Comrade 08/08/2019 (Thu) 14:42:01 No. 17647 [Reply]
Thread for screencaps from old /leftypol/ (old thread crashed in update)
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>>17660
>Chinese civilization was an open system
what did he mean by this??
>>34543
Maybe the bit following on from what you quoted is what he meant?
Anyway have a screenshot

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ads ads everwhere Anonymous 08/19/2019 (Mon) 13:03:50 No. 34702 [Reply]
Am I getting crazy or is it actually fucking annoying?
Ads on the internet, tv, and fucking everywhere outside. I just want to go somewhere without seeing hundreds of ads where someone pushes their shitty business. Imagine how better cities would look without that crap
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>>35370
>...includes actions that will disrupt or coerce the general population...
capitalism disrupts or coerces the general population
>You ESPECIALLY shouldn't use it with it set to only click ads every once in a while, or else Googs might not be able to detect you're fucking with their data harvesting. Which would be EWCONOMIC TOURRORISM. SO DEFINITELY DON'T DO IT!
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>>35400
>>35411

check out this video lecture from the person who made it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZpu3UrGeZg
>>35423
>1:21
meehhhhhhh i'll just trust it, as long as it works as well as ubo, clicking some ads behind the scenes at times seems not to be problematic
>>35440
She says that the point of this is to mess with the tracking, as leverage to get companies to respect the Do Not Track browser flag, as well as codify it into law.
So the privacy protection functionality is secondary.
>>34702
i just now noticed thats keanu reeves
>>34955
Thanks for telling me about that, finally I can block what ad-blockers can't. Will use B)

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Thots on this guy? 08/20/2019 (Tue) 03:07:28 No. 35488 [Reply]
>Louis began his personal rule of France in 1661, after the death of his chief minister, the Italian Cardinal Mazarin.[3] An adherent of the concept of the divine right of kings, Louis continued his predecessors' work of creating a centralised state governed from the capital. He sought to eliminate the remnants of feudalism persisting in parts of France and, by compelling many members of the nobility to inhabit his lavish Palace of Versailles, succeeded in pacifying the aristocracy, many members of which had participated in the Fronde rebellion during Louis' minority. By these means he became one of the most powerful French monarchs and consolidated a system of absolute monarchical rule in France that endured until the French Revolution.

Sounds pretty accelerationist to me fam. Neo France arrived from the future.
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>>35488
> Thots on this guy
His Hair looks like smoke.
>Neo France arrived from the future.
you meant to say futurepast ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6S3tKo58v8
as in circular time ?
>>35498
There are sections of the lolbertarian crowd that unironically want a return to Enlightened despotism because the voting system fucks with their precious markets.
We need a socialist monarchy.
>>35764
Nice try Lassaille

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#Marxism Anonymous 08/14/2019 (Wed) 18:11:49 No. 28430 [Reply]
#Marxism is trending on twitter. It is our patriotic duty to mine run to the salt mines and pick up the pickaxes. Let's try to find the best & worst takes!
https://twitter.com/search?q=marxism
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>>28961
>the essay itself doesn't cite anything for its specific assertions about the old "Jude Itzig" or Lasalle
I'm not gonna say that I do, but in "Poverty of Philosophy" he does take a jab against Proudhon's anti-semitism, which would suggest he considers himself not so:
>to speak Greek – we have thesis, antithesis and synthesis. For those who do not know the Hegelian language, we shall give the ritual formula: affirmation, negation and negation of the negation. That is what language means. It is certainly not Hebrew (with due apologies to M. Proudhon); but it is the language of this pure reason, separate from the individual. Instead of the ordinary individual with his ordinary manner of speaking and thinking we have nothing but this ordinary manner purely and simply – without the individual.
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>>29189
The article cited doesn't think the "antisemitism" interpretation is likely either:
>This text summarises rather succinctly the key prejudices contained in the Jewish question and endorsed by Bauer. Should we read these prejudices as representative in any way of Marx's own views? If so, how are we to treat the relation between Marx's defence of Jewish emancipation and critique of the Jewish question in the first essay, written only weeks earlier, and this mouthful of anti-Judaic stereotypes in the second? One possible answer is that Marx was more like Bauer than we suggest, the difference between them boiling down to the difference between one who demands that Jews give up Judaism as a condition of political emancipation and one who advances political emancipation for Jews in the hope and expectation that they will then give up their Judaism. This interpretation, however, cannot explain the second essay's discontinuity with his first essay or indeed with Marx and Engels' biting restatement of their critique of Bauer in The Holy Family written shortly afterward. In this text, Marx and Engels were even more scathing about Bauer's attempt to justify the exclusion of Jews from political society in terms of their self-exclusion from civil society, to debase not just Jewish emancipation but political emancipation as such as the ‘illusion of the masses’, and label Marx and Engels themselves derogatorily as ‘representatives of the mass’: ‘How low “the mass” is in comparison with holy criticism’, Marx and Engels jibed in response.28
>If we are to retain the unity of Marx's three responses to Bauer – that is, the first and second essays on the Jewish question and then parts of The Holy Family – we need to trace the common logic running through them. We can do so along the following lines.
>Since the rights of man and citizen include freedom of religion, what grounds can there be for excluding Jews because of their religion?
>Since the rights of man include rights of egoism, what grounds can there be for denying civil rights to Jews because of their alleged egoism?
>Since the rights of citizen abstract ‘political man’ from their social role, what grounds can there be for excluding Jews because of their allegedly harmful social role?
>Since money in modern society is the supreme world power, what grounds can there be for denouncing Jews for allegedly turning money into their God?
>While Bauer represents the Jew as ‘moneyman’, Marx responds that in the modern world ‘money has become a world power’. While Bauer imagines that money is ‘the practical spirit of the Jews’, Marx responds that money has also become ‘the practical spirit of the Christian peoples’. While Bauer says that money is the ‘jealous God of Israel’, Marx responds that the God of the Jews has become the God of the world. After Marx, no longer can the defence of Jewish emancipation be grounded in assumptions about the goodness of ‘Christian civil society’ or the badness of ‘Jewish tribalism’.

Probably worth reading the whole of it, because you see this point about Marx's "antisemitism" time and time again from both wokies and right-wing anti-Marxists.
>>29168
tbh lad they need to kill off every trace of the abrahmic religions
>>28471
Not really, they just do what they think/feel the big Other wants from them

Anonymous 08/18/2019 (Sun) 08:29:22 No. 33114 [Reply]
Reminder that the majority of the proletariat will never reach communist consciousness under capitalism, all we really need is groups of workers in the most important industries/workplaces. We're not waiting for democratic consensus, or to be 'voted in'.
The dictatorship of the proletariat is a dictatorship of the communist party, a dictatorship of the minority.
Democracy is not of interest to communists, not is building a 'mass party' that compromises it's communist principles to appeal to wider society.

>The most important aspect of the political struggle in the Marxist conception is the civil war and the armed insurrection through which one class overthrows the power of the enemy ruling class and institutes its own power. This struggle cannot be successful unless it is led by the party organisation.
>Just as the struggle against the power of the exploiting class cannot be accomplished without the revolutionary political party, like-wise the party is necessary for the subsequent work of eradicating the previous economic institutions. The dictatorship of the proletariat, which is indispensable throughout this by no means brief historical transitional period, will be exercised overtly by the party.
>Before, during, and after the armed struggle for power, the party must also fulfil the following necessary tasks: the defence and propagation of revolutionary theory; the defence and reinforcement of the internal organisation through proselytism and propaganda for the communist theory and program; constant activity within the ranks of the proletariat wherever it is driven by economic needs and pressure to struggle in defence of its interests.
>The party can include in its ranks neither all the individuals which constitute the proletarian class nor even the majority of the class. It includes only that minority which has attained a collective preparation and maturity, in theory and action, corresponding to the general vision and ultimate goal of the historical movement, in the entire world and throughout the historical course from the emergence of the proletariat to its revolutionary victory.
>The party is not formed on the basis of individual consciousness. It not only is impossible for each and every proletarian to be conscious of the class doctrine, much less master it intellectually; but such a thing is not even possible for each party militant taken separately. Such a guarantee cannot even be given by the leaders, but only exists in the organic unity of the party.
>Therefore, just as we reject every theory of individual action or of mass action independent of a precise organisational tissue, we also refuse any conception of the party as an assemblage of erudite, enlightened, or conscious individuals. Instead, the party is a tissue, a system, which has the organic function within the proletarian class of fulfilling the revolutionary tasks in all their aspects and through all their complex phases.

Socdems anarchists and tankies btfo
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>>34310
We need to work rebuilding worker solidarity and the communist party.
>>35579
Reminder: Antifa in greece and the golden dawn have literal shoot outs.
>>35586
To add to this anon, Stalin and the USSR were more worried about an Japanese attack in the east after all that shit that went down in Manchuria
>>35450
>Deng didn't destroy socialism
He didn't. Mao's autism did.
>>35040
>I don't call the USSR state-capitalist "just because it had money." It had money, wage-labor, commodity production, profit, a class system, etc.
The Ruble was unlike labour vouchers in that it could change hands from person to person, but different from normal money in that means of production couldn't be acquired with it. The Ruble was between labour vouchers and money, and closer to labour vouchers IMHO. If you define wage labor as people not individually producing directly what they consume, then yes, it had wage labor (though the life of such a laborer was distinct from elsewhere in the world since there was no threat of unemployment). If you mean something else with that, specify what you mean. I don't know what you mean by class system in the context of the USSR, some notion that some people had more prestige and income than others (though that doesn't make one a capitalist)? I flat-out disagree that they had profit and I don't care how many thought they had and to what degree book keeping made use of the word profit. They had surplus. Surplus doesn't equal profit. How much of the surplus went into non-essential consumption and how much into building productive capacity was an administrative decision, as such I don't see how you can call that profit without turning into a pretzel. I suspect it's just intellectual laziness on your part, taking mere word usage at face value.

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/marx/? Anonymous 08/20/2019 (Tue) 10:28:54 No. 35732 [Reply]
Is there a backup board for /marx/?

Is brother Ismail here?

Also post cool posts from /marx/ if you have any screenshotted
This way >>11571 for all your Ismail related needs comrade

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/imageboard/ Anonymous 08/19/2019 (Mon) 09:24:31 No. 34563 [Reply]
why aren't imageboards way more popular as opposed to mainstream social media sites like facebook, instagram, twitter, etc?
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>>35678
this, IP bans are incredibly unreliable and easy to get around in any case. you also sometimes get assigned a dynamic ip of a fash who got banned as well
Image boards arn't actually good means of community because it's specialized towards anonymous debate and discussion to the point that even pseudonyms are frowned upon. Thinking about it as an alternative to social media doesn't make sense, and it's susceptible to manipulation in its own ways.
>>35236
good take
>Fame takes on a generalized form and covers the community of a board under the personification of the board as a single body
yes, its the fame of the collective, of the hivemind, which is also why there is such a strong urge to police the 'culture' of the board, to ensure continuity
>>35678
>Most people have a dynamic IP tho, I know I do
Oh, you have a dynamic IP and therefore most people do too? Sound logic, right there.
>>35698
he's not wrong, all ISPs in the US at least provide home users with a dynamic ip by default, static IP's are usually for business customers only.

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