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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism Anonymous 08/05/2020 (Wed) 11:45:39 No. 747462 [Reply] [Last]
Thread dedicato al paese con il popolo più analfabeta e la borghesia più ignorante d'Europa, dove ci sono più partiti comunisti che comunisti stessi. In un modo o nell'altro, cerchiamo di riprenderci il paese e il futuro che Confindustria ci ha rubato insieme ai suoi servi. Foreign comrades are welcome. Previous thread: >>19862
Edited last time by krates on 08/06/2020 (Thu) 18:10:22.
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>>1016875 ASSOLUTAMENTE SI, GRANDE IDEA
>>1016875 il libro non l'ho ancora letto, ma scorrendo l'indice vedo un capitolo "La religione e il terrorismo" potrebbe essere un buon candidato visto che si riconnette anche ad un episodio recente (e su cui servirebbe davvero un analisi piu' sottile di quelle che vedo in giro). Quando ho tempo gli do una letta e vedo se c'e' un qualche buon estratto che si puo' fare.
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>>1016660 >Sinceramente non so neanche che interesse può avere Berlinguer oggi per un pubblico internazionale: forse la sua capacità di districarsi nel complesso periodo degli anni '70? No perché l'eurocomunismo è un fallimento che ci portiamo ancora dietro. Credo che l'interesse che può suscitare dipenda da due cose: l'aver portato il Pci ad un soffio dal governo in un paese Nato nel bel mezzo della guerra fredda col cosiddetto compromesso storico - e ho dimenticato di elencare questo punto nel mio post oltre a questione morale ed eurocomunismo - e poi la fiammata elettorale subito dopo la sua morte che portò il partito a superare sia Dc che Psi alle europee del 1984, unica volta che un partito comunista sia arrivato primo in un'elezione in un paese capitalista. A parte queste due cose, sicuramente l'eurocomunismo è stato il fenomeno politico che più d'ogni altro ha avuto conseguenze pratiche al di fuori dell'Italia, considerando che quest'indirizzo politico ha coinvolto anche i partiti francese e spagnolo, fra i pochi in giro per l'Europa ad avere un peso importante nel loro paese, ma mai paragonabile a quello del Pci in Italia. Ora è tardi e scusandomi anche con l'anon straniero a cui avevo risposto prima non posso lanciarmi nell'effortpost promesso, ma rimedierò domani. >è questo il punto: Dibba non ha alcun potere e la cosa gli rode. Giggino si è beccato un ministero, Fico la camera dei deputati e Dibba? Esiliato in Guatemala! È uno 5S più "famosi" e non gli hanno dato neanche un contentino. Dibba però ha fatto una scelta prima delle elezioni del 2018 - o almeno qualcuno ha fatto la scelta per lui: non s'è candidato in prima persona, facendo comunque campagna elettorale per il movimento. Tutti i suoi bei viaggi l'hanno fatto stare lontano dalla scena per un paio d'anni abbondanti, durante i quali il personaggio Giggino s'è dovuto prendere la briga di diventare il vero parafulmine per tutte le sventure del movimento... Vero che Giggino è passato da un ministero all'altro e pure vero che il buon Fico ricopre una carica che fu, in un tempo lontano, di Sandro Pertini - a proposito, il patto faustiano ha dato il senato ad una berlusconiana avvelenata, a dimostrazione di che teste di cazzo siano i 5S e di come arrivati all'apice abbiano immediatamente fatto inciuci letteralmente con tutti, soprattutto quelli che invece avrebbero dovuto spazzare via - ma se non altro, per quel che può contare, il Dibba può dire di non essersi compromesso e potrebbe rappresentare un piano B da giocarsi da qui alle prossime elezioni... Vero è che, per come si sono messe le cose, il M5S è ampiamente bollito, compromesso e in caduta libera ogni volta che c'è qualche elezione e mi risulta difficile pensare che questo declino possa fermarsi e addirittura invertirsi da qui al 2023. E però il Dibba mica è detto che rimanga attaccato a loro... >>1016875 Aspettiamo che "editor" risponda. A proposito, credo sia meglio usare l'inglese! >>1017103 Devo chiedere di fare una nuova bandiera con la faccia del Colonnello Valerio così userò quella, altrimenti sto cominciando a pensare a volte che i tuoi post li ho scritti io...
>>1017552 Grazie, attendo con interesse la tua rispostta. Il mio interesse nasce dopo la lettura di un articolo su Salvador Allende, in questo testo è menzionato come la esperienza cilena ispira una serie di articoli scritti per Berlinguer dove si "trova" il seme dil Eurocomunismo. Inoltre ho visto "Qualcuno era comunista" di Giorgo Gaber (sottotitolato) e Beringuer è menzionato como "una brava persona".
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>>1018249 Che fosse una brava persona non c'è dubbio, anche perché di "brave persone" nella politica italiana non ce ne sono più. Se chiedi ai boomer di sinistra, tutti ti risponderanno di quanto hanno amato Berlinguer, di come era il più grande leader del PCI, etc. Il problema è che eurocomunismo, il mettere al centro di tutto lo stato (borghese), il "sentirsi al sicuro sotto l'ombrello della NATO", ci hanno portato al disastro e alla dissoluzione del PCI dando via libera alla reazione neoliberale. Era comunque migliore di tutti quelli che gli sono succeduti a sinistra, pic related.

the Complicated Japanese situation Anonymous 10/20/2020 (Tue) 22:14:24 No. 1017112 [Reply] [Last]
So everyone knows the Ainu are the indigenous people of Japan, and you'd think this would mean they are oppressed, and they are. But, Ainu features, especially on men, are in generally seen as more attractive. Top actors will be said to have a slight "Jomon" look, which is subjective, but smth I've heard. The more "yayoi" you are as a man, the uglier. How can this be explained?
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>>1017112 I think it's the same way how USA fetishizes the Indians as "Noble Savages" but still opresses them to this day
>>1017112 how is this complicated? The Ainu were a tiny population confined to Hokkaido which was formally colonized by the Japanese in the late 19th century
>>1017704 They are working on it though. Japan 0assed some bill recognising them yadayada.
Anchoring this thread after letting it run for a night, because its plain and clearly just irrelevant identity politics, bordering on pol tier racial theories.
>>1017294 They look Arabian, the first one especially looks like my uncle.

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Capitalism is inefficient Faggo 10/20/2020 (Tue) 10:48:42 No. 1015030 [Reply] [Last]
I know it's unethical ect ect but isn't capitalism wildly inefficient when people are actively incentiviesed to produce products that are cheap for their own profit rather than trying to make something of quality and use? Like markets seem like a fucking stupid way of meeting human needs.
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>>1018149 Russians are getting extinct, so i guess. Good ridance I'm not doing that media is controlled, just look at lies about trump
>>1018137 I guess i would agree, you are quite brainwashed. Maybe religion level. I guess if you read koran instead of marx, you would be expecting 72 virgins for this jihad of yours
>>1018099 Ukraine is a failed state run by oligarchs. Lol i guess another great legacy.
>>1018873 >Facts are the same as some 1500 year Abrahamic book Literally not even modern anti-soviet historians view the "holodomor" as a genocide.

Anonymous 10/20/2020 (Tue) 09:19:56 No. 1014946 [Reply] [Last]
Do people really fall for this?
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>>1014946 Funny thing about that image is this guy is a complete fraud. He doesn’t work ridiculously hard jobs because he’s an actor that LARPs as a blue collar people.
>>1015407 >I am thankful because I know they’re better than me. Tell me, for the love of god, that you’re trolling.
>>1015524 But then Marx said that “everyone should be able to live like this.” At any rate, I like Bakunin and Bread Santa.
>>1016054 >i earned my hard work through my own hard work
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>>1016186 >right now /leftypol/acks were already addicted to low effort bait ever since the early 8chan days.

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Wagie life sucks. Faggo 10/21/2020 (Wed) 09:17:10 No. 1018834 [Reply] [Last]
Went for a a full time position at my job so I can actually be in a position to live somewhat comfortably but I didn't get it partly because of a depressive episode I've had reventlu so now I've got to find a seccond job to wage cuck myself for to keep the lights on.
I'd rather kill myself than be a full time wagie again. Being a studyslave is bad enough

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Anonymous 10/20/2020 (Tue) 23:07:11 No. 1017281 [Reply] [Last]
Well? Have you read it /leftypol/?
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>>1017331 Unfortunately his (recent) books aren't available in digital format. He even said, that he only wants to sell real books, because he believes, that people will not read digital books.
>>1017281 >Have you read it /leftypol/? Not even if you forced me at gunpoint.
>>1017331 here you go

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Alt Right/Nazi cringe thread Anonymous 10/13/2020 (Tue) 03:43:22 No. 991477 [Reply] [Last]
Post the most cringe worthy real life /pol/smokers you can find.
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>>1018251 "Blacked" cuck fetishism relies on an implicit racialist outlook to work, because it relies on viewing blacks (primarily black men) as an inhuman other that "takes" and "ruins" the purity of a "clean" white female. Without that, it's just two people having sex. Or to put it in other words, bbc cuck fetishists generally aren't imagining their wives being taken by some black guy with glasses, a hoodie, a cheap pair of headphones, and a Marvel t-shirt. They're imagining their woman being taken by some 6+ foot tall "brute" with the make-up of a hollywood bodybuilder, the attitude of a stereotypical 90s gangbanger, and the intelligence and libido of something just above monke. I don't think any of them are imagining Du Bois having sex with their imaginary gf.
>>1018647 >I don't think any of them are imagining Du Bois having sex with their imaginary gf. heh.
>>1018660 hello based department
>>991477 >>991717 This is actually a really good movie. Idi i Smotri/Come and See is like the Soviet Apocalypse now.
>>994364 Blyat, chto eto za uyobstvo?

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Esoteric Hitlerism General: Satanic Nazis Sage#+GbZOp 07/19/2020 (Sun) 01:37:06 No. 702127 [Reply] [Last]
This is all the evidence we put together in the last thread, in order, for any newcomers. I'm gonna add in a few bits for context as well and lines of enquiry without sources that we might want to pursue Evidence: >leader of neo nazi group "the base" a fed https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/23/revealed-the-true-identity-of-the-leader-of-americas-neo-nazi-terror-group >various themes involving the alt right, their connections to the intelligence services, and the esoteric hitlerist connections in both, alongside pedophile connections https://medium.com/@MKultrawoke/the-truth-about-the-alt-right-a-destruction-by-facts-and-logic-e3d07f27e8cb?source=your_stories_page--------------------------- > a video describing the Order of the Nine Angles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIkYhf3toG8 >videos of 09A ritual stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jKpikOvzNk&list=PL92ghcVduUkM-V3H2g439J39OmN6C3nxW&index=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VEyIuuH-qU&list=PL92ghcVduUkM-V3H2g439J39OmN6C3nxW&index=13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F15opwqezJc >AWD Pedo Cop with probable links to esoteric groups https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/05/met-police-officer-arrested-suspected-of-belonging-to-group-linked-to-terrorism >National Socialist Underground

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Nazi collaborators with Israel: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Barbie sold arms to Israel and helped overthrow an anti-America government in Bolivia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Skorzeny https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Rauff
So let me get the all shit i've discovered in this thread straight. Modern NeoNazism is literally just people being manipulated by some Schizo anglo Satan cult that has seemingly infiltrated every NeoNazi outfit on earth in order to just "cause chaos" and "trick people into killing themselves and others for satan" If Nazis are the literal Chaos demon worshippers this literally makes Marxists / Marxists states like the force of the order the imperium of man i guess.
>>1018040 Blursed post, but true.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Myatt >a former Satanist, a former British Muslim,[6] and a former neo-Nazi. Since 2010, Myatt has written extensively about his rejection of his extremist past and about his rejection of extremism in general. Myatt has translated works of ancient Greek literature, translated and written a commentary on the Greek text of eight tractates of the Corpus Hermeticum, and written several collections of poems. He is currently translating and writing a commentary on the Greek text of the Gospel of John. It's time to grow up chum
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>>1018040 The modus operandi of the O9A, assuming it isn't just a meme, is to infiltrate and subvert extremist groups in order to spread chaos. They don't actually care about the ideological or religious orientation of the group as long as it has “sinister potential”. Allegedly, they’ve infiltrated leftist and Islamic groups as well. The biggest propagator of O9A ideas is person who goes by the name “Anton Long”, which is probably a pseudonym for David Myatt, though he denies it. Myatt has spook written all over him. He started out as a neo-Nazi, then he abandoned Nazism and became a Muslim, then abandoned Islam and is now a hippy-dippy liberal of some sort. Oh, he’s also a multilingual martial artist as well. As a Nazi, he was connected with the British Movement, Combat 18, Column 88, and founded the National-Socialist Movement (of which the 1999 London nail bomber was a member). It should be noted that Column 88 has been connected to Project Gladio and a “former” Special Forces Officer helped set the organization up. Myatt claims he was unaware of C88’s connection to Gladio when he was a member. He also wrote tracts, like “A Practical Guide to Aryan Revolution”, that have gone on to influence various neo-Nazi groups and terrorist. In the late 90s, he converted to Islam and continued to promote terrorism, both in Britain and across the Arab world. He wrote an article justifying suicide attacks that was published on Hamas’s website for several years. Around 2010, he abandoned Islam, has rejected violence and terrorism, and is now translating and writing commentaries on ancient Greek texts, writing poetry, and has developed a mystical philosophy called the Numinous Way. Prior to the Temple ov Blood/Autismwaffle debacle, Chloe Ortega and the California-based White Star Acception were probably the biggest names in the American O9A. Like the ToB, it’s difficult to tell what’s trolling and what’s genuine, since Chloe Ortega was in high-school when she allegedly joined the O9A. Though, Ortega has apparently been linked to Richard Moult who is a friend of Myatt’s. It should be noted that the WSA doesn’t promote Nazism and is supposedly ran by women, and Ortega herself is half Asian/half Mexican. How, or even if, they connect to ToB I don’t know. There's a very real possibility that the O9A is just a giant larp that a few edgy retards take seriously. Some completely unsubstantiated rumors: >Myatt played some role in the founding of ISIS >Myatt played some role Hilda Murrell’s murder >Jimmy Savile founded or was a prominent member of the Temple of the Sun, which merged with the Noctulians and Camlad in the late 1960s, forming the O9A.

Anonymous 10/21/2020 (Wed) 03:27:30 No. 1018246 [Reply] [Last]
What (non-news) magazines/periodicals/quarterlies/websites do you recommend, comrades?
>>1018246 Bump, because I am interested in this as well I used to read aeon.co, but they are Radlibs at best. This became quite annoying to read with time, so I dropped them

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Sudden influx of low-effort and bait threads - possibly covert raid Anonymous 10/13/2020 (Tue) 22:10:19 No. 995115 [Reply] [Last]
Let's start with these three simulacra of threads: >>981548 (Same OP, same content, same pic.) >>989710 (Same OP, same content, same pic.) >>986462 (Same OP, same content, same pic.) Blatant. Bad faith, bait, zero content or context, blanket statement threads, generally anti-tankie/USSR, etc.: >>990003 >>993504 >>994802 >>994722 >>994028 (notice immediate bump, most likely by OP)* >>990395 (notice immediate bump, most likely by OP)* >>992030 (notice immediate bump, most likely by OP)* >>992167 >>993207 >>994175

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bumped due to retards
Ffs leftypol we should be happy to have new members. This is what we've been waiting for, now go out there and politely explain Marxism to them. Otherwise what was the point of reading all that theory if you can't be bothered to explain it?
>>995115 Apparently, anarchists and libertarian socialists like myself are just bad faith baiting, but go off, I guess.
>>1018622 Apparently you didn't read OP.
>>1018627 My guy, literally the only threads that haven’t been deleted are ones related to Kropotkin and Bakunin and one about some other guy.

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