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/leftypol/ is a non-sectarian board for leftist discussion. IRC: Rizon.net #bunkerchan https://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=bunkerchan

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Slavoj Žižek LIVE Anonymous 03/31/2020 (Tue) 18:54:22 No. 409227 [Reply] [Last]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXC1n8OexRU Going on right now. Someone with a youtube account drop a leftypol link in the chat
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>>409227 Apparently Žižek's nickname is Podganar.
>>409341 Microsoft...
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>>410054 It's "rat" in Slovenian.

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Anonymous 03/21/2020 (Sat) 20:37:03 No. 384068 [Reply] [Last]
Redpill me on Hoxhaism
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I think it's extremely telling that I've never met a self-described Hoxha-ist who can actually pronounce his name right.
>>407997 Ho juh?
>>407997 Hosh-ha?
>>408740 >>408903 It is Ho-ja, as in Ja Rule, the rapper. The o-sound is short btw.

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Porky 03/31/2020 (Tue) 15:58:16 No. 408709 [Reply] [Last]
OK /leftypol/, if communism didn't kill 100 million people, how many people DID it kill?
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>>408747 >The highest academic estimate is 60-100k. I'm sure it's not even that high Now wise one, please link us a credible academic source that provides this estimate.
>>408709 200 million. And it should have been way more
>>408928 Incredibly based
>>408727 the only good answer

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Anonymous 03/31/2020 (Tue) 08:24:37 No. 408149 [Reply] [Last]
Are these guys feds or what?
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>>408151 >>408173 >>408180 what sort of internet leftist are you that you don't know this. Its pretty much the most detail you are gonna get on Epstein etc. I don't think hes a fed, although he could easily be a fed, he has lots of fed like attributes. Went to Syria. For the anti Rojava crowd who are convinced the entirety of Rojava is a psy op this is evidence enough. Although given that he organised a factory I don't think so.
>>408285 this is the funniest part, you all act like the whole thing was some psy op yet you recognise that there was actually only really a period of US involvement with the kurds. Before that they were considered a terrorist group and the US had helped the Turks hunt down their leader with Mossad
>>408822 >Also he said he actually met CIA people in Syria. yeh, he said there were people around who were obviously CIA agents and everyone knew they were CIA agents and they asked ridiculous questions. Considering the US forces there were a small amount of special operations its no wonder they had intelligence officers there.
Although he could just be the left wing Alex Jones limited hang out. Apologies for the quadruple post but also not.

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OC Thread 4.0 Comrade 08/05/2019 (Mon) 08:50:19 No. 8622 [Reply] [Last]
OC Thread 4.0
>New thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

/leftypol/'s booru:
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>>408416 >your rage and grievances are legitimate and important, as long as you're not white/male and you direct it against another identity group instead of against the system gee i wonder who could be behind this ideology
>>409107 fixed it
>>392966 kek source on that black man?

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on "red fascists" Anonymous 03/31/2020 (Tue) 07:17:02 No. 408072 [Reply] [Last]
lets say you have someone, he wants communism except he wants to keep the state, so like what normies think the USSR was like, what do we call and how do we label these people? red fascist? super tankies? or is there already a term available?
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>>408240 when saying red fascists i did not mean MLs
>>408254 >Nasserism do you mean strasserism?
>>408261 No, Strasserism is a meme. It has never been implemented. I mean Nasserism, as in the policies of Nasser in Egypt. Arab nationalism + what has been described as "socialism from above"
you mean like permanent state socialism?
>>409849 no, i mean "state communism" see >>408150 >>408167

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Tax Havens and Unaccounted Wealth Tax Havens 04/01/2020 (Wed) 00:04:05 No. 409960 [Reply] [Last]
Start digging and discuss how much wealth is stashed away and it's current purpose and what can be done?

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Batshit insane bourgeois historiography and ongoing fabrications Anonymous 08/24/2019 (Sat) 02:05:43 No. 41063 [Reply] [Last]
Let's have a thread on the bourgeois historical falsifications of 20th century socialist movements where their older and contemporary hot takes are demonstrated. Screencaps from Le Blackie Book of Gobudisms :DDD posted with counter-arguments/explanations on how they manipulate would be very much appreciated. I bet there are anarchists here who can show us ancap/conservative/francoist examples of falsifying the history of Catalonia as well. Past or present stories, urban legends, fabrications, etc. about your own country's socialist movement perpetuated today would be also of interest. I would absolutely love, for example, to hear from an Indian or Turkish comrade how the bourgeois press falsifies their ongoing struggles.
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let me show you how deep the rabbit hole goes
>>385580 I saw you being conflicted on China several times, viet poster.
>>409350 so just like everybody these days. China lives rent free in everybody's head, I guess they must be doing something right.
>>409346 There was no Berlin Wall during Stalin era. Stalin offered to form a demilitarized neutral Germany in a 4D chess plan to eventually have communists rule all of Germany. Unfortunately the western allies saw through this, rejected that offer and created West Germany.
>>409350 >China is capitalist and imperialist >But spreading falsehood against them is wrong Why is that conflicted?

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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general Comrade 08/05/2019 (Mon) 12:39:50 No. 8925 [Reply] [Last]
A general thread for all China related discussion
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>>409769 >Falun Gong based
>>409769 >it's a picture from 1995 Burger intelligence bros working overtime
>>409826 This is no place for xenophobia
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Deng Anonymous 03/30/2020 (Mon) 16:11:05 No. 406399 [Reply] [Last]
>Deng Xiaoping Theory is the series of political and economic ideologies first developed by Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping. The theory does not claim to reject Marxism–Leninism or Mao Zedong Thought but instead seeks to adapt them to the existing socio-economic conditions of China >China largely owes its economic growth to Deng Xiaoping's emphasis on economic production, under the theory of the productive forces – a subset of 20th century Marxist theory. In the view of Deng, the task faced by the leadership of China was twofold: (i) promoting modernization of the Chinese economy, and (ii) preserving the ideological unity of the Communist Party of China (CPC) and its control of the difficult reforms required by modernization. >To preserve ideological unity, Deng Xiaoping Theory formulated "Four Cardinal Principles" which the Communist Party must uphold: >the "basic spirit of communism"; >the political system of the PRC, known as the people's democratic dictatorship; >the leadership of the Communist Party, and; >Marxism-Leninism and Mao Zedong Thought. >Little evidence of Mao's approach survived in Deng.[8] Deng Xiaoping Theory argues that upholding Mao Zedong Thought does not mean blindly imitating Mao's actions without deviation as seen in the government of Hua Guofeng, and doing so would actually "contradict Mao Zedong Thought" >Modernization efforts were generalized by the concept of the Four Modernizations. The Four Modernizations were goals, set forth by Zhou Enlai in 1963, to improve agriculture, industry, national defense, and science and technology in China. What went wrong?
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>>409860 Let's put the bourgeoisie into key positions in the party, so we can fool the burgers. t. J. Stalin
>>409868 and let's adopt policies that other communist parties (i.e. Indian and Phillipine) seem to interpret as imperialism. that way, the imperialists will think we are one of them, and we will infiltrate their world order so easily, they won't even know what hit 'em!
>>409873 The key is mimic the capitalists at every turn and so far it's working swimmingly. Nobody is on to us.
>>407952 Which of Engels works does he write this?
>>407952 >the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity. How did China done so in any difference from social democracy or hell even Keynesian economics? How bringing back repressive policies that further entrench China into the global capitalist economy, a political direction continuously being emphasized in every modern CPC theoretical document, is revolutionary when it’s been done by every single capitalist country? >(i) Limitation of private property through progressive taxation, heavy inheritance taxes, abolition of inheritance through collateral lines (brothers, nephews, etc.) forced loans, etc. <taxation is socialist you guys Again the only thing listed that China did is “progressive taxes” with income. The rest don’t even exist in any Chinese law document. Hell even some western shithole have more progressive taxation than China, which similarly enough is just as plagued with bourgeois tax dodging than anywhere else. You have given no proof to otherwise with your infantile assertion. >(ii) Gradual expropriation of landowners, industrialists, railroad magnates and shipowners, partly through competition by state industry, partly directly through compensation in the form of bonds. What expropriation? If anything these parasites are now back stronger than ever, being fed solely through the class collaborationist line that you dengoids touted as a form of party control of the economy. The state industry doesn’t compete with them, it nurtured them to their modern day. >(iii) Confiscation of the possessions of all emigrants and rebels against the majority of the people. <Uyghurs It was re-education you utter buffoon. There were no confiscation of property. The Chinese bourgeoisie even go one step further and holding real estate in other country. In what delusional reality that forced abolition of religion carry an economic side to it other than national security? >(iv) Organization of labor or employment of proletarians on publicly owned land, in factories and workshops, with competition among the workers being abolished and with the factory owners, in so far as they still exist, being obliged to pay the same high wages as those paid by the state. Factory owners in China oppressed their workers to make most of your cheap goods you nonce! If anything the average Chinese worker enjoys low wages in every side of production even state industries. Also most publicly owned shit got abolished when Deng demolished the iron rice bowl. >(v) An equal obligation on all members of society to work until such time as private property has been completely abolished. Formation of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. Yet this doesn’t seem to be the case in the Chinese bourgeoisie class, which have no other interest than enriching themselves. >(vi) Centralization of money and credit in the hands of the state through a national bank with state capital, and the suppression of all private banks and bankers. No suppression exist. In opposition to your shit claim, the private banking in China is booming. Especially when the central bank only direct the economy in the same role as the burgerstani feds. Unless you’re arguing for the existence of a central national bank being inherently socialist, in which case you’re worse than an ancap and need to off yourself.

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