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TinyIB Anonymous 07/10/2020 (Fri) 04:48:09 No. 679044 [Reply] [Last]
sage
Is the software a continuation of the old unofficial pre bunkerchan backup board?
Go on >>>/tech/

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The USA is rioting - /BÜRGERKRIEG/ Anonymous 05/29/2020 (Fri) 04:31:28 No. 541168 [Reply] [Last]
In light of the technical issues Bunkerchan is experiencing due to the massive influx of new users, remember that our official bunker is https://www.GETchan.net , we also have an official chat https://matrix.to/#/+leftychat:matrix.org to keep in touch with the mod team and you can use https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchantemp , maintained by members of the community, to continue chatting and following the happenings even if Bunkerchan goes down. There have been rodney king tier riots in Minneapolis since George Floyd was killed. What is /leftypol/'s opinion? Updated FRATERNAL RIOT PORN WATCHING AND FRIENDLY CIRCLEJERK HERE: https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchantemp (Or this one https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchanalt ) Location of protests all over the US: https://twitter.com/IGD_News/status/1266173527708835840 https://naarpr.org/updates/cities-join-the-call-for-national-day-of-protest/ DONATE TO HELP ARRESTED PROTESTORS https://twitter.com/ntltcIit/status/1266820861362933762 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X4-YS3vFn5CLL9QtJSU0xqmTh_h8XilXgOqGAjZISBI/edit

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>>666956 >NFAC >black israelites >>666980 >>666960 cmon guys.
>>678871 Very interesting insight into the political situation of America right now
>>678845 >cmon guys. I'm not from America, I didn't know anything.
>>678401 >>678612 Considering the fact that most of the rightoid countries around the world explicitly rely on massive, overwhelming US-NATO military aid and protection to prevent from getting stomped by either internal revolt (Honduras, SaudiA, Bahrain, Jordan, Egypt, Brazil, Colombia etc etc) or anti-colonial/anti-imperialist liberation (Palestine/Iran/Hezbollah against the Zionist colonial state of Israel, West Papua against Indonesia, Chechnya against Putinoid Russia's current puppet-run gov), I'd argue that a lot more would go socialist (or at least, economic nationalist under dirigiste regimes that seek independence from the West) than fascist

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Anonymous 07/10/2020 (Fri) 01:36:13 No. 678658 [Reply] [Last]
Explain the strong correlation between being a sexually unsuccessful, shut-in male who consumes video games & anime all day and falling into the far-right.
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>>678926 How exactly did they colonize 4chan? I mean they always had a presence but before them the only real "movement" that came out of there was anonymous. Say what you will of them but they certainly weren't Nazis.
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>>678961 Yeah there wasn't like mass shooter coming out of 4chan/8chan like the christchurch shooter or el paso shooter. You're only posting on bunkerchan is because some pol retard radicalized by the swarmfront operations had the first fucking site shut down.
>>678972 At least there aren't constant rightist incursions shilling for Hitler and porky
From what I've read about people who joined neo-Nazi skinhead gangs, they were sometimes literally recruited by older men who would prowl around high schools and look for awkward, shy, lone males who seemed to be by themselves, not have friends, etc. They're isolated, probably hate most of the people around them anyways, and are highly impressionable given their youth. Also having a messed-up family life is pretty common. I also knew someone who later became a neo-Nazi skinhead (I found out a few years later) and he fit the profile. They don't have strong mentors who can transition them from boyhood to adulthood. The transition from youth to man has been eliminated, so we go straight from being a boy to a man without any pause or shift period, and the lack of mentors means youth don't learn how to deal with things like (say) violence, or deal with someone insulting you on the internet, or learn how to relate to people of different backgrounds than your own. Some people join the Marines or whatever and gain experience that way, but it's not an entirely positive one. I don't mean to sound like a conservative, because I'm not, but this was a role that was once filled by traditional institutions like scouting organizations or churches and those have also gone away, been discredited in various ways, have failed to adapt to the times. I'm not going to say those organizations were all positive, again, just that they filled a function in terms of teaching skills and discipline as a way of building self-confidence. And fascists PREY on people with weak self-confidence. And trying to gain some awareness of the world from behind a computer screen and staying up all night browsing /pol/ is just a recipe for disaster.
>>678658 I can't

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Anonymous 07/09/2020 (Thu) 22:41:53 No. 678268 [Reply] [Last]
FEMALE BOLIVIAN DICTATOR HAS CORONA https://twitter.com/JeanineAnez/status/1281349188731707392 What goes around comes around bitch, hope she dies in pain
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>>678802 Lmao take your pedo desert cult back to €urope and the Middle Ea$t. Evo and Bolivia were proud believers in PACHAMAMA and LA SAGRADA HOJA DE COCA
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Anez could be lying.
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>>678307 >bachelet
PRESIDENT XI SEND THE VIRUS
GOOD NIGHT FAR RIGHT

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Permaculture Anonymous 12/15/2019 (Sun) 01:53:45 No. 161914 [Reply] [Last]
The practice and principles of Permaculture are one of the most important tools for not only creating a sustainable socialism, but also for repairing the damage done to the global ecosystem by capitalism, and lessening your individual reliance on the current capitalist system.
Permacultural practice and socialism are two very powerful allies, and learning about permaculture should be necessity for modern socialists and communists.
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>>647436 we "mass produce" gigantic amounts of compost by being alive and consuming, and also as a side product of a lot of our production. there's a practically infinite supply to tap into if we can meet certain socially and politically challenging but technically pretty simple conditions. human waste and waste from farm animal production are currently essentially used to poison the earth and are considered too dangerous and unclean to process.
>>659224 If you have a dense clay soil you'll get better results the first year by tilling just the top inch or 2 of soil and mixing in the same amount of compost as if you did no dig. No dig will improve your soil over time, and after the first year of tilling you should have good soil and switch do doing no dig in that plot I've also had trouble getting good germination doing no dig and planting directly in the compost so start things in trays if you can
>>161934 That looks incredibly labour intensive. Like, more labour intensive than even rice production. A society in which everyone requires that much labour to feed themself is going to look more like England in the 1200s than anything today. Materialism.
>>678278 It takes a lot of labor initially, but after the first year or 2 it requires very little input. Also consider the saved labor in the mining and chemical industries by using far less fertilizers and pesticides, as well as less need for machinery and fuel
>>678278 If you think that looks like a lot of labor compared to traditional farming, you must not be aware of the supply chain involved, not just the resources like >>678794 says. Traditional farms not only have you tending and harvesting but also replanting every season and shipping the food all over the place. Putting the food closer to the table dramatically decreases costs in terms of labor, resources, and logistics.

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imageboard popularity Anonymous 07/02/2020 (Thu) 10:52:59 No. 660859 [Reply] [Last]
I wonder why imageboards are so popular on the right and so unpopular on the left? why do 90% of leftists hang out on twitter/etc. ? what accounts for this?
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>>660859 It's because we, the left, can't agree to anything. The right says "blackmen bad" and they all clap. Someone says "I don't like Stalin" and it starts a longass discussion that doesn't lead to anything.
>>660859 >why do 90% of leftists hang out on twitter/etc. ? Not an actual stat. Also like 10 years ago it was the opposite. 4chan had a surge in boomers (and probably CIA infiltrators too) since 2016. Really since '15 or '14, but it's only gotten worse after '16. A lot of the actual internet leftists who were around before all this shit just don't bother with 4chan - or Facebook or Twitter or any of that.
>>678797 they could hang out here
Right wingers want to be able to say whatever they want and do whatever they want without being accountable to anyone. The right-wing offer is, if you give power over to a strong daddy, that he'll crush your enemies and protect your private domain from the forces of social change that want to convert your daughters into lesbians and punish you for beating the shit out of your wife when she doesn't bring you a sandwich on time. Imageboard culture, being anonymous, allows for the most neanderthal expression of that right-wing id to express itself form various divorced fortysomething mattress store managers -- probably only dimly aware they're managing a front for a debt-fueled ponzi scheme -- and sitting at the computer and logging in to bitch about the "nig nogs" who just wandered in and left without buying anything.

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Anonymous 07/10/2020 (Fri) 01:00:10 No. 678588 [Reply] [Last]
Does anyone else sometimes watch right-wing YouTubers just to try and see if you can at least partially understand their perspective or at the very least see what kind of logic the opposition is running with and coming up with best ways to respond to it?
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Is he really still going with that aesthetic? Jesus Christ he's been doing it for at least 10 years. How embarrassing.
>>678892 it's pretty clear he's scripted by someone else. if you've heard him speak off the cuff, he can barely string a sentence together.
No. And if the last 160 years of history teaches communists anything is that you can't persuade people to betray their class interests by arguing with them, but instead, material factors determine their politics, and the most we can consciously do is help people to educate themselves and struggle together.
>>678588 For some honest to God mindfuck you should really check out MrE Transpocalypse Now (currently shut down, some clips still there, most backed up on bitchute)
>>678588 I used to but it got boring. After a certain point they don't have anything new to say. They're not even relevant to us in terms of arguments because they're only responding to liberals. If there's a right way to handle them it's to agree liberals suck, establish distance from them, and posture as actual edgy rebels instead of social justice warriors or status quo warriors, because that is what communism actually is (or is supposed to be at least).

distancing ourselves from idpol Anonymous 07/09/2020 (Thu) 09:11:27 No. 676743 [Reply] [Last]
In order for socialism to succeed it must first get rid of itself of idpol. The greatest weapon the enemy has is mocking the left for its degeneracy. The working class tends to be conservative and socialist should cater towards what the working class wants. This also means allowing religion and not only promoting gun rights, but aiding the formation of militias and weakening the state enforcement apparatus.
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>i can get away with my idpol thread if I phrase it as anti idpol no you can't. go away.
>>676743 >promoting gun rights What is it with Americans? Ask any conservative in Europe (who has not been Americanized) and they will tell you that there is no need for civilians to own firearms.
>>678965 >What is it with Americans? Ask any conservative in Europe (who has not been Americanized) and they will tell you that there is no need for civilians to own firearms And that's supposed to be a good thing?
>>678994 Yes. Whilst during a revolution arming the proletariat is necessary, once victory is achieved, most firearms should be confiscated in order to make sure no further rebellions occur. People who believe the capitalists and fascists will just accept communism are idealists. The revolution is only the first step, next one must destroy all opposition, with force if necessary. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Tito, Hoxha, Castro... all knew this because they weren't blinded by idealism
>>679006 >Yes. Whilst during a revolution arming the proletariat is necessary, once victory is achieved, most firearms should be confiscated in order to make sure no further rebellions occur. People who believe the capitalists and fascists will just accept communism are idealists. The revolution is only the first step, next one must destroy all opposition, with force if necessary. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Tito, Hoxha, Castro... all knew this because they weren't blinded by idealism You are associating one thing with another which does not need associating at all, which is exactly the kind of thinking I took issue with here >>678931. I do not believe capitalists and fascists will just accept communism, and believe they should be crushed with impunity and authority. I also do not believe firearms should be taken from communists because of this, and in fact doing so makes actions against opportunists and internal reactionaries difficult to near impossible to resist. In Chile for example, the people largely supported Allende, but were unable to resist the military coup that occurred because firearm usage was restricted to near illegality. Mao himself didn't actually order the confiscation of weapons en mass, rather the peasantry was organized into cadre and officer led militias who engaged in mass suppression against counter revolutionary activity (https://www.rupe-india.org/59/han.html). Hoxha permitted cashes of weapons to be kept in local townships as they had before the revolution to be used by the individuals to train in habitually to prepare for external aggression. Our goal should not only be to eliminate all traces of reactionary activity, but cultivate the proletariat to be a continual force that actively seeks out to do so on its own accord, even when the government itself collapses into revisionism. The proletariat masses should be treated as an army in its own right, an aggressive and violent will that enacts its authority upon those that would are its enemies, both foreign and domestic. Taking them out of this capacity takes them out of the revolution, and can only lead to complacency.

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Anonymous 07/10/2020 (Fri) 02:10:17 No. 678751 [Reply] [Last]
>Xi also laid out an ambitious plan to make China a “great modern socialist country” in the following 30 years — part of what he has called the “Chinese dream.” By 2050, he said, the party would be near the goal of achieving a “beautiful China” with the rule of law, innovative companies, a clean environment, an expanding middle class, adequate public transportation and reduced disparities between urban and rural areas. China is never going to transition to a pure socialist economy are they... They've done a descent job though.
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>>678917 >is not everyone knows this >will never be now that's retardation
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>>678920 fine then. explain to me how China could transition to a worker's state instead of a capitalist oligarchy that we have now
no real basis for a topic, please stop making threads about the same old china argument, there are already plenty of china threads
>>678927 Well >>678806 https://nationalpost.com/news/world/xi-jinping-lays-out-plan-to-make-china-a-global-superpower-by-2050 >Xi also laid out an ambitious plan to make China a “great modern socialist country” in the following 30 years — part of what he has called the “Chinese dream.” By 2050, he said, the party would be near the goal of achieving a “beautiful China” with the rule of law, innovative companies, a clean environment, an expanding middle class, adequate public transportation and reduced disparities between urban and rural areas. Here's some room for hope, how is this possible without socialism? >“We have a fairly clear blueprint of Xi Jinping’s political economy, with incredibly robust, strengthened state-owned sector playing a large role in propping up growth,” said Jude Blanchette, engagement director at the Conference Board’s China Center >“We’re moving into a sort of China Inc. 2.0, a real upgraded version that, sure, has markets and they’re going to play a really important role in this, but this is all within a bird-caged economy.” And the birdcage is from chinese marxist theory from the 1950s
>>678792 which is still based. SOCDEM GANG

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Senile "comrades" Anonymous 07/10/2020 (Fri) 00:59:14 No. 678586 [Reply] [Last]
Let it be stated that I used to be beholden to these Biden-tier bumbling asses. Who am I talking about here? People like Noam Chomsky and David Harvey. These people are crearly experiencing and going under the phase we'd call senility. Yes, Chomsky did write based shit against US imperialism, but he's right now shilling for voting for Biden of all people. Yes, Harvey did used to have interesting takes, but he's been lately completely BTFO by ACTUAL Marxists on the issue of the LTV. All of these examples, IMO, are cases of "Actually Existing Senility." You literally can't explain these without taking into account that >Chomsky, age 91 and >Harvey, age 84 are biologically becoming... trying to come up with a term that isn't too offensive... outdated. I used to make Chomsky webms back on 8ch/leftypol, and I used to make webms about Harvey the same. These people are literally useless now. Like, yes, I had to edit a Harvey video thirty times, so that he could make a single point, but now it would be 100+. Same with Chomsky. These faggots are literal Zombies. They are living dead. They have NOTHING to offer us, while being after our "brains." Fuck 'em.
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>>678861 My point was is that you can wreck a ballot and make it useless. maybe read what I said you fucking retarded belgian >b-but other countries do it too! yeah third world shitholes like Luxembourg and Liechtenstein and Australia
>>678866 i read what you wrote, hence why I said "i understand that you can have informal votes" i'm yet to see your response to how voting legitimises electoralism besides "you can throw away your vote" it's australia btw ;)
this thread is clearly not in good faith, you are mad over something or other and raging out, just chill
>>678937 You talking to this guy? >>678625
Based tranny janny bumplocking the four most popular threads at the top of the catalogue in one sweep

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