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Anonymous 01/21/2020 (Tue) 07:41:37 No. 223416 [Reply] [Last]
Should we vote and if so how should we vote? Do we never participate in the state until a chance at revolution, like some sort of passive non-cooperation. Do you vote no matter what, usually for the farthest left candidate. The voting system itself matters. Do you vote just to make sure the person you most don't want doesn't take power? Do you only vote when you feel like it?
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>>223499 No, there wasn't. t. nazbol
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>>223416 >Do we never participate in the state until a chance at revolution, like some sort of passive non-cooperation. No this is fucking dumb and it's why some Vanguardists are retarded because they implicitly buy into a vulgar accelerationism that argues until the proletariat are immiserated enough revolution cannot happen, which is a misreading of what Leninism is supposed to advocate for. It's a myopic focus that becomes dogmatic which amounts to allowing the Proletariat to suffer because there is only one specific way to "do revolution", a sort of narcissism that disguises deeply reactionary pathological impulses. Lenin would have clowned all these retards. Bourgeois Electoralism is an arena in which any Communist should participate for pragmatic reasons.
>>223487 No, they were already accelerationists, the real kind of accelerationism, which is class struggle, not some bastardized nonsense that has arisen from the complete impotency of communists in the 21st century. At least fucking autonomists actually attempt to analyse the failures of the left and do something, """accelerationists""" fall completely into a nihilist reaction to capitalist realism that proposes capital as the agent of history; they just don't even have the theoretical werewithal to formulate a coherent argument as to why this is the case
>>223416 I am from Australia and I try to pick the candidate that offers the best deal for the common worker, which usually ends up being ever a labor party candidate or an independent on rare occasions. Do I honestly expect that this will make a difference? Well at least I can keep the worst elements of the bourgeoisie from getting too comfortable but it is difficult and most of the time it is just a form of damage control while waiting for a revolution.

a better word for the dirtbag/anti idpol left Anonymous 01/21/2020 (Tue) 12:19:27 No. 223584 [Reply] [Last]
We need a better word to describe the anti idpol left, besides dirtbag because that was coined by chapo, and the anti-idpol left, while accurate, only says what we're against, not what we are for. I would say classical left but the word classical has been ruined by retards like sargon and rubin. Orthodox left sounds too much like orthodox marxism. The canonical left the reconstructed left the reconditioned left the reestablished left the modernized left the reassembled left the universal left the conservative left (sounds nazbol/strassery tho) the regenerated left the reconstituted left
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>>225052 They get so much money, why would they change?
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>>224879 >liTeRal postmdoern cultural idpolers/glowies subverting the left fixed that for u
>>225055 Yeah, they would rather backstab socialism because it's not cool enough for the r/drama/twitter retards. THankfully the "dirtbag left" is nothing more than a grift, a side project of a side project. I don't even particularly have any level of disdain for chapotraphouse honestly. I just hate the fans.
>>225050 Anticapitalists
>>225052 They are like edgy Rosa-killers

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how do i dismantle this argument? Anonymous 01/15/2020 (Wed) 20:36:59 No. 215173 [Reply] [Last]
>You find a job >You agree to an amount of pay >You sign a contract with your boss >Therefore, capitalism is legitimate
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>>215191 >>215208 >>215229 Its based on a classical republican myth that includes westward expansion homesteading and working for 7 years as an apprentice to save up to buy 40 acres and build a general store. You have to have the time figure out their principles while trying to explain primitive accumulation and then show how property law stems directly from violence and the social contract is coercive, you can scale into how liberal conception of rights are contradictory and the concept of citizen, who is and isnt, and "nature" are constructs that there was never such a thing as unoccupied territory, and how that violence is subsidized. They either have to accept that violence is the only way to maintain property and the state has a monopoly on violence or that property is theft. You have to go into the ideology.
>>224959 and also that all the property is accounted for or poisoned to the point where it cant sustain life.
>>224206 >No, because those who have money and yet do not work are not stealing. If such a capitalist pays money to another entity, purchasing their goods, they are actively contributing to the economy. Primitive. Accumulation.
>>224246 What kind of anachronistic horseshit is that second pic? Marx died way before fascism as a term was coined.
>>225039 It's actually a misquote of Dimitrov quoting the thirteenth Communist International https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/dimitrov/works/1935/08_02.htm#s2

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urban squatting/homeless survival Anonymous 01/21/2020 (Tue) 19:55:09 No. 224011 [Reply] [Last]
I need help surviving as homeless in an urban city in Spain. i came here to ask because i know leftists are solidarity with the poor and the squatter movement has ties to antifa.
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>>224113 just dont get bitten by a feral dog or something
Please report back! I am really interested in this and the breadth of the practice (in terms of sheer numbers and concentration of squats in Spanish municipalities) really fascinates me. Please find out how they · Get clean water and food · Don't get evicted · Treat comms (are smartphones banned? They could get tapped right?) · How can one trust other new squatters to not be infiltrators? · In a place like Spain, where there is such an abundance of squats, is it part of the practice to squat multiple places at the same time so as to not end up back in the 'earn money, rent apartment' loop again? Believe it or not in some European countries that previously had thriving squatting movements - they got cracked down to such an extent that they now have a hard time opening a single squat for more than a couple of hours presently. Keep in mind to not be specific about areas and personal details. Good luck comrade!
>>224115 also please record when you masturbate in public places and/or piss on people
>>224308 based fetishist >>224011 there's a thread on >>>/hobby/ on frugal sustenance. I would consider getting gear for sleeping outside. If you're going homeless, might as well make it as luxurious as possible. Maybe get a friend to recieve the packages for you if you order online. Don't be stupid, don't die. Usually police are more strict on homeless in touristy areas.
>>224032 >why SHOULD i have money? So you don't have to be homeless.

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/crisis/ General Comrade 08/05/2019 (Mon) 07:43:55 No. 8552 [Reply] [Last]
DOW/Market Watch Thread
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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>>224038 >every 3 years
>>224036 True. But the current bull run that's lasted for over a decade is only due to the Fed engaging in QE and Repo, and keeping interest rates low. >>224039 It will take a few externalities to cause a big "correction" in the stock market, something that can't be manipulated away. If the Fed and Wall Street were bombed hard, that might trigger a recession. If the Fed is out of commission, and Wall Street was destroyed, stocks would probably crash.
The "stock market" is propped up by fantasy. All you need is a President to declare that capitalism is a failure, and manage to get the military to bomb wall street, silicon valley, and the homes of the bourgeois. And bomb the Fed and European Central Bank. That would trigger a European Bank Run and an American bank run. Porky would be terrified. And get the glowies to start killing porky with drones.
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>>224036 >Retail stores close and remain closed for years >Multinational luxury brands shuttering their "flagship" stores >Saying this is just the beginning is "imagining a crisis" >No criticism of the countless other indicators of which this is but one Nice try, porky. You really think we believe any of these individual phenomena will cause the crash? These are just effects and the cause is the fundamental rules of finance capital. I was just funposting and will continue to do so.
>>224036 >Retail stores closing means jobs being lost >retail workers move into insecure gig work at amazon or shitty min wage jobs >workers and small companies start defaulting on loans ala 2008 due to lack of financial security and stagnant wages >the big crash happens :-)

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Is this the most likely future for mankind? Anonymous 01/18/2020 (Sat) 20:30:58 No. 219311 [Reply] [Last]
Idk, seems like the truest, true shit ever screened, soulful, heartfelt, potent suifuel. Is this the future of mankind under capitalism? Will the 2020s determine this fate, or is it already too late?
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>>221370 *Should be one city every five days
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>>221370 Seaweed is a decent way to substitute food production <By 2050, human demand for food will increase by 70% or 5.4 thousand million tons per year. However, agriculture’s capacity to sustain this demand is constrained by a lack of additional land and freshwater and is threatened by climate change. More seaweeds can be farmed at sea to supplement production of plant products from agriculture. There are no obvious technical or spatial barriers to such development, and there are potential environmental benefits, such as bioremediation of coastal waters, creation of new fish habitats, and sparing of land and freshwater that would otherwise be used by more agriculture. But, if it is to happen, maritime nations must be willing to allocate marine space for seaweed farms to be established, and affordable seaweed food products with broad consumer appeal must be developed. Early attempts to do this in a tropical developing country are described and give reason for optimism. >Now the smart thing to do would be to start moving agriculture to cities and switching to hydro-aquaculture. Urban farming currently limited in scope by it's energy use.
>>221393 Look up the calorie content of seaweed. No one's going to eat several pounds of that stuff, especially if it's grown off the coast of China. Jeezus h. This is what I mean by people being high on techno-hopium. >We're not going to have enough calories to feed everyone <Lol just eat 20 pounds of heavy-metal laced ocean veggies lmao
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>>221421 >Look up the calorie content of seaweed You would need to eat at least 6kg per day, fair enough this probably requires some more cultivation to increase caloric density, and maybe it's better suited as feed for fish. In case of China doing this, well yes they would need to plant this for a while for the purpose of using biosorptions that removes pollution from the water until water quality is good enough for food production, and they can use it for fuel or what ever. >high on techno-hopium. How is this techno stuff ? Presumably you just need simple boats to get the seaweed back to land, and a few contraptions attached on the boat to improve productivity.
this movie had great music ngl

Joe Rogan Says He Will Vote For Bernie Sanders Sage 01/22/2020 (Wed) 00:25:57 No. 224474 [Reply] [Last]
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>>225048 Not an incel, just a communist.
>>225056 TIL: Communism is when you hate women and uphold the patriarchy
>>225057 Hillary is not "women". It's kind of sexist of you to only see her as a pussy, not a person whose actions have consequences.
>>225072 Shut up, Hilldawg. Go back to your pedo island.
>>225072 I knew you were trolling, but I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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Audio thread Anonymous 08/28/2019 (Wed) 14:29:26 No. 46642 [Reply] [Last]
Post audio sources
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>What is to be done <V.I. Lenin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ_GfPz6vbY
>>222734 thanks for posting here. I'll try and upload more to this channel, if anyone has access to Learning Ally audiobooks please share them on youtube, as I only have access to Lenin right now
Found a nice new channel with a good mic >Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism <V.I. Lenin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynmqEm7Tkxc&list=PL7z5pih7oX3R9xoGpf1s6bzIeT_F7Nz0O&index=1
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>Murray Bookchin (1975) "The New Harmony" - Liquid Drum & Bass Mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpsPaSl-lxc

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Scanning books Ismail 11/18/2019 (Mon) 10:12:58 No. 131094 [Reply] [Last]
As some here may know, myself and others scan lots of books and make them downloadable in PDF format. They can be found here: https://archive.org/details/@ismail_badiou

My scanner broke recently, so I got a new one. I scanned five books in the past few hours by an American Marxist philosopher named Howard Selsam. Most notable among them are:
* https://archive.org/details/socialismethicsselsam (Socialism and Ethics, which as you might guess is a Marxist discussion of... ethics)
* https://archive.org/details/handbookphilosophyselsam (translation of a 1940s Soviet philosophical dictionary)
* https://archive.org/details/whatisphilosophyselsam (as its title suggests, it's an intro to philosophy from a Marxist standpoint)

I have dozens of books on my desk to scan, from compilations of Marx, Engels and Lenin on certain subjects (art and literature, trade unionism, pre-capitalist societies), to Soviet books on WWII, to books on 1980s Ethiopia I was supposed to scan months ago but didn't, to Soviet introductory texts on numerous subjects (the concept of surplus-value, political economy, capitalism, communism, philosophy, etc.)

Some of you may also recall I used to have threads where people would ask me questions about Soviet history and such. You can post any questions in threads here: http://eregime.org/index.php?showforum=719 (you don't need to register to post, can just do it anonymously)
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>>219660 Unfortunately there is no passive, high density and long term digital storage medium. You have to pick two. Passive and high density: Optical media, lasts 10-20 years. Passive and long term: Fused PROM. The electrical spec has been unchanged since the 1950s, no charged or moving parts, but density is terrible at around 100 kbit/mm². It's the only thing I'd trust to keep any data formore than 100 years. If you can power the chip every 40 years, ferroelectric RAM. High density and long term: 21st century monks. You make a RAID array with disks or NAND memory and replace hardware as it fails.
>>219660 Are you concerned with the books being lost forever? If so there is many different organizations that do digital preservation.
>>221587 I didn't scan it, but you can read Endicott's book online here: https://archive.org/details/redearthrevoluti00endi (in this case you have to make an archive.org account and then click to "borrow this book," it won't allow you to download it, only to read it online.) In other news, aside from books I still have to scan (e.g. Soviet compilations of Marx, Engels, and Lenin on literature and art), I'll be scanning a whole bunch more works later this month such as a 1975 Soviet text titled "Marxism Versus Crude Communism" and two CPUSA books from the 1950s critiquing Freud.
What do you think of audiobooks channels like these https://www.youtube.com/user/Skatefordays1/videos?disable_polymer=1 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSuBGV3Qme4aZJajbYCXh0Q/videos?disable_polymer=1 Is it worth doing for some of these books to get more exposure?
>>224962 If people want to make audiobooks of anything, that's fine. There are those who prefer audiobooks to reading books (or do both at different times.) I can't particularly think of books I've scanned that cry out for an audiobook treatment though. They tend to be "dry" and filled with lots of footnotes and statistics.

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/dead/ - Post-Leftism General Anonymous 12/27/2019 (Fri) 15:34:53 No. 189248 [Reply] [Last]
Welcome to /dead/, the endless magical nihilist gulag. This is not 8/grim/, but it is the continuation 8/grim/. Think of it as partly an /r9k/ for anti-capitalists, partly /GET/ with skeltals, and otherwise whatever you make of it. Now in thread form!
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My friend told me something wise once: There are only two truths in this world. 1. If your ideology has post- in front of it, you're a self involved dipshit. 2. White girls fuck dogs.
>>224535 postmodernism isn't really an ideology, its a praxis.
and yes white girls fuck dogs. so he got one right.
>>221313 I'd rather Europe burn. I've noticed a lot of leftists defend European civilization as superior to American civilization as if they were fascists. fool me once...
>>218827 Something like that.

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