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Global Capitalism Update Anonymous 09/09/2020 (Wed) 23:18:37 No. 854788 [Reply] [Last]
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>>854970 Reparations have been an extremely common thing in youtube comments the last year. So much so that I wonder if a little astroturf isn't happening.
anything good?
>>854966 Patreon takes like a 10% cut though which is bullshit, we'd be paying them twice. It's not a bad idea in concept though.
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>>854901 where the fuck is patrick bateman gonna eat now?

opinion on black pigeon speaks? Anonymous 09/16/2020 (Wed) 01:24:57 No. 871953 [Reply] [Last]
I get recomendation from 4glowies to watch this guy. Along with the alt hype and murdoch murdoch. I just need help to debunk any video they made
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You don't debunk these guys because they just appeal to emotion. Any person who actually has a working brain will see that "Jewish Marxists who currently control the entire world and have for 1000 years want to overthrow their own governments to replace them with governments ran by Jewish Marxists" is insane and illogical.
>>872191 "Last son of the West" guy? Doubt it.
>>872313 Oh GOD WHY DID YOU REMIND ME OF THAT CRINGE OF A VIDEO
>>871953 I like his analysis (on the affects of neoliberalism), I dislike that he has been grossly misinformed (conflating libruls with socialists, communists and anarchists; not entirely his fault if SCA's had let libruls print their stuff in their papers and muh adjuncts, muh terminology, muh technicalities). He believes (or seems to imply) that anarcho-capitalism and trickle down Regan-Thatcherism (which is neoliberalism anyway?) tend to be the answer.
>>874020 >christfag >is retarded checks out

Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 22:47:28 No. 871617 [Reply] [Last]
Is there a personality or group that have detailed how Communism could come about in detailed present day real world logistics? And how it would actually look when succeeded in day to day life, and covering all potential pit falls? The closest I've seen are some pod casters saying "Join a blue collar job. Unionize. Run for local office. Then... communism?" Or "Vote bernie. Get healthcare. Get basic income. Get people used to and expect government welfare. Then... communism?" I'm not expecting serious logicians or armchair generals going over specific stats and figures. But I can't even find larpers writing fanfiction.
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Cockshott has some interesting ideas, give his book Towards A New Socialism a read which details how a Socialist society would function. He also has a YouTube channel with a video detailing strategy, one suggestion he has is a referendum on ending exploitation. Where even if the referendum fails it would completely change the political landscape as seen by the Scottish independence and Brexit referendums. https://youtu.be/x-oRmcYR5cM
>>871711 I would also recommend that book. Even if you don't agree with all parts, it's nice to see such a work considering practical issues of implementing socialism. However, it is not a step-by-step-guide to revolution, which would be useless. However, if you are interested in specifically logistics, both Che Guevara and Mao Zedong have written texts about guerrilla warfare.
>>871617 Cockshott........................
>>871711 But he doesn't describe much of a plan of how we get from HERE to THERE.
>>871617 Read Cockshott

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News 9/15/20 News Anon 3.0 09/15/2020 (Tue) 18:50:41 No. 870830 [Reply] [Last]
US officials concerned by potential for war crime charges over Saudi arms sales: Report Several US officials have hired private lawyers over fears they could be arrested and charged with war crimes while travelling abroad over the sale of US weapons to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates which are used in the war in Yemen. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-officials-concerned-potential-war-crime-charges-over-saudi-arms-sales-report Mexican farmers occupy dam to stop water payments to the United States Today, the 1944 agreement is facing increasingly violent opposition in drought-parched Chihuahua state, where protesters have seized control of a major dam to dramatize the plight of farmers whose cotton, tomato and pecan crops, they say, depend on the water that’s being sent north. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/us-mexico-water-dam-farm-protest/2020/09/13/dddb85e8-f3bb-11ea-999c-67ff7bf6a9d2_story.html https://archive.is/TMSab Palestine Action occupies roof of arms factory in protest against weapon sales to Israel The protesters from the Palestine Action group poured red paint down the walls of the UAV Engines factory at Shenstone in Staffordshire to represent the blood shed by Palestinians in Israeli attacks. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/palestine-action-occupies-roof-of-arms-factory-in-protest-against-weapon-sales-to-israel Palestinian leaders to reconsider relations with Arab League Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammed Ishtayeh said on Monday that his government will present a recommendation to President Mahmoud Abbas to reconsider relations with the Arab League, after two of the body's members - the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Bahrain - agreed to normalise relations with Israel. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/palestinians-arab-league-reconsider-relations

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thanks news anon
Hetalia but not for faggots
>>870830 Sex scene now
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>>871625 hey fuck you
thank you news anon

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Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 22:08:36 No. 871496 [Reply] [Last]
Black guy here, I've noticed the Threads about Black people are significantly lower than That of /POL/ Keep it up White men
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>>871620 Precisely.
>>871496 Reddit
>>871643 >muh tribe fucks your tribes women <see the cop beta soy faggot Every other /pol/ thread
>>871647 What are you even saying? Put together a whole thought please, we'd all be most appreciative.
>>871654 He said keannu reeves big chungus wholsome 100 everybody liked that thanks for the gold kind stranger Dont you understand english?

MOOCS and distance learning Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 17:24:22 No. 870612 [Reply] [Last]
In the 2010s there was a huge hype around open source courses, that anyone in the world could get a tp university tier education just by having Stanford professors record some lectures or w/e. Now with Covid-19, almost ALL education is effectively online. What does /leftypol/ think of this and what role would distance education play under socialism? And why didn't MOOCs like udemy/coursera/edx become college-replacers like people thought?? Will COVID-19 accelerate this or actually turn people off distance education?
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>>870879 It's American my man.
>>871535 > Making labour redundant is good. Under socialism: Yes. Under capitalism: No. That's why we need socialsim.
>>871636 > For example, the state school doesn't have a commercial Zoom account so all classes have to be conducted in 40 minute blocks. For longer lectures that means having to log in and out of zoom like 3+ times a lecture. LMAO this is some ghetto shit
>>871650 made by a chinese-american who still has part of the company based in china with chinese workers
>>871658 The ownership is still American. I am an anti-dengoid but let's keep our facts straight. China has enough porkie retardation without Zoom.

Class and evolution Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 19:18:23 No. 870930 [Reply] [Last]
In a country with little to no class mobility, rigid classes and very different environmental pressures for the elite and working classes, over time would this not mean that both classes would look, act and maybe even think differently?
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>>871225 Doubt it.
>>871278 look up how old their aristocracy is
>>871293 It's not old enough to have had a major evolutionary impact. Japanese aristocrats are still homo sapiens. Evolution is gruelingly slow in great apes.
>>871310 not major but certainly minor
>>871363 True. Like I said earlier, there's a noticeable difference in appearance between upper and lower classes of more rigid class societies, as well as the obvious differences in thinking and culture.

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making fake antifa documents/orders and sending them to epoch times and similar Anonymous 09/01/2020 (Tue) 15:21:00 No. 829616 [Reply] [Last]
continuation of >>828574 >>828541 probably nothing will happen even if we do this but it would be funny as shit if some of them actually thought it was serious. maybe for inspiration u can use that one screenshot of a 4ch post i saw around here a few days ago talking about how we had colonels and shit
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Sometimes I worry that the right wing have cottoned on to the fact the cops are deliberately letting us riot in an attempt to draw out right-wing militias so we can shoot them up.
>>840868 This format is VERY nice. We could literally take this and change the logos in the upper and lower part of the image. The text has to be changed though to be made about Antifa infiltrating fash with a special intelligence unit. (Any update on logos?)
Did anything happen with this shit?
Any news on this project?
>>871073 i think one page was made a while ago but then jannies got pissed at people who were posting in this thread bc it wasnt anchored

Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 15:37:40 No. 870277 [Reply] [Last]
>The year is 2021 >Biden is President >The economy is completely destroyed and half the population unemployed >Covid shows no chance of stopping >This is the fault of the Republicans. To uphold democracy, the military in Biden's name marches on Washington and storms congress >Biden is proclaimed Chairman of the Democratic States of America >He mysteriously dies from a heart attack 1 month later >We all now live under Chairwoman Kamala >QBoomers start lone wolf attacks and start shooting cops >Libs support the diversity of the dictator >Thousands die every day from starvation or the disease >Wall Street keeps getting bailed out >Leftists say "Yeah but we still vote democrat, it's them or fascism. Keep vooting comrades!" Post your predictions
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>You will never live to see an economic leftist in office Simple as.
>>870765 genderfluid and neurodivergent is not an ethnicity
>homosexuality and homophobia both got commodified by capital and turned into a circus spectacle for profit >clearly it was the gays who did this and tradcath morality could have saved us all Every time.
>>870489 After americanizing the world it's for america to balkanize.
>>870568 Trump is probably more profitable to large parts of libtard pseudo-intelligentsia anyway, which includes the media. Don't forget how much free advertisement they've gifted him in 2016.

Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 15:04:24 No. 870205 [Reply] [Last]
I am a market socialist and am wondering is there any other socialist model that isn't going to fail?
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>>870740 Also, I think Corbyn’s much too advanced policy of enforcing a right to purchase by the workers was blatantly anti-capital, which was what made them recoil. I think it was a good policy, but he had to win to get it. Even knowing how co-ops can be weaponized against them, Capital has little problem with supporting the production of new ventures in the coop form because it doesn’t directly touch their property rights. They only recoiled at Corbyn’s policy because it directly abridged their property rights. So there can be kind of dual political angles towards co-ops. The more radical candidates can continue advocating for Corbyn-esque policies that attempt to basically softly reappropriate capital to the workers of the existing firms, but if they lose it doesn’t heighten capital’s aversion to coops as a business form because that isn’t what they’re afraid of. They don’t think coops are a threat by themselves, they just don’t want the state to take their property. But mediated through the market for capital, coops are a long term threat if they can succeed, because they shrink access to capital and cash flows for the bourgeoisie. It’s just unclear if they can get to that size on their own. It would have been very beneficial if an Amazon or Google or Facebook had been a co-op. The most immediate goal should be to amass as much capital to hit growth industries as soon as possible. That would also destabilize the stock market more quickly, as new growth companies having their equity locked up in cooperatives would foreclose on new profit streams immediately.
>>870205 Im starting to hate marksocs more than succdems at least succdems accept they don't give a shit about revolution
>>870384 >and now instead of evil rich pedophiles making terrible decision huh I thought this where the ones in charge in planned economies wtf
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>>871049 Nigga I haven't even seen anybody in here deny economic planning, you have your priorities all mixed up. Nobody in here is even endorsing a competing political line, but succdems actually do. Their competing political line is to ally with liberals in order to defeat communists, even brutally suppress them, in order to get little gibs here and there from the state. People here are just talking about forming co-operatives right now, not allying with liberals to kill and arrest everybody in PSL or something because they wanted revolution instead of Medicare for All. If Russian Revolution 2 happens in America and I work at some cooperative company you can nationalize it and I'll join you, I don't give a shit. Bernie Sanders would tell the national guard to stop you.
>>871049 The only reason we even have any is voosh memeing it back into existence.

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