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Social and psychological reasons of being an alt-right "4channer" Anonymous 01/04/2020 (Sat) 22:54:57 No. 197872 [Reply] [Last]
>rude, incredibly vulgar form of communication >social rejects IRL >herd mentality when it comes to which memes they like >utterly addicted to the internet Pic related is a weird mutation of that type. He has low inhibitation and no shame, but otherwise is exactly the same. Is there a natural evolution of that type of person? Will they eventually realise the toxic bubble they live in? I am worried about them bringing their 4chan culture to the real life, because then social reinforcement will permanently lock them inside a bubble.
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>>197965 Most people, who suddenly become super religious Christians, most likely are bad people trying to put a mask over past bad behavior. Really weird you get involved with religion so much and that is what made you stop. Because religion doesn't really play a big role in the Alt-Right. Only recently with Nick Fuentes and catholic larping does it kinda emerge, but its not a real authentic thing.
>>198072 >Really weird you get involved with religion so much and that is what made you stop. Because religion doesn't really play a big role in the Alt-Right. It was huge among the people I knew. As soon as I started uni 3 years ago, I met some UKIP voting fresher who wanted to pick up religiousity. He converted and forever became an arrogant cunt looking down on everyone else for being degenerates who dont love god cuntry nd jesus. He told an indian friend of mine who was having visa problems that he would report him to the authorities if he overstayed his visa, because he 'loves his country'. And I also met catholic poles who were disgusting nazis. Theres a lot of religious fetishism among the alt-right and fascists. Its meant to restore society to a healthy state, enforce traditions, de-whore women etc basically opium for the masses. Its not sincere spirituality at all, but weaponising dogma. I feel bad for the church soyboys that have their spiritual home invided by alt-right zoomers.
>>197872 You are literally on an even more obscure 8chan offshoot. Come the fuck on if you think we are any different in type to 4channers. Except we have good ideas.
>>198633 Funny thing for me is Catholic church is one of the most diverse instutions on campus, atleast in Uk. Always made me laugh it had more brown people than any of the leftist or decolonize societys.
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(The spoilered gif is from Bayonetta 1) I use to use /pol/ frequently when I was a racist teenager. I grew out of it obviously. I joined when I heard about some terrorist attack and then I started seeing other threads like "nigger hate threads." I thought that because i'm not black I was inherently better than black people even though I was a spic. Anyways around this time I moved back to my parent's home country and being with family led me away from being online so much except to study and talk with them so I kinda just forgot about /pol/. Years later I had discovered /leftypol/ I think it was during the French church that burnt I can't remember, all I know is that is was pretty close to when 8chan got shut down and now i'm here

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Anonymous 01/05/2020 (Sun) 12:47:43 No. 198670 [Reply] [Last]
Is China the next nazi Germany? Should it be allowed to exist?
Finding some inane bullshit on reddit is not enough to start a new thread. We take the quality of discussion very seriously.
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>>198737 Unironically yea, the creator of the anime girl thread should first off fucking kill themself and second so should this janny
>>198670 >we take the quality of discussion very seriously. op is a fag but the mods made op look like a good straight christian boi in comparison
>>198737 >one image thread to post images on an imageboard is the same as posting 3 thread of "look what i found on reddit" thats litterally about the same subreddit. Dont make 3 threads on the litteral same topic.
>>198737 commie anime girl is vaguely interesting shitposting at least, could be moved to get this is just useless shit

I hate this guy like you wouldn't believe Anonymous 12/18/2019 (Wed) 21:07:39 No. 166851 [Reply] [Last]
What an Idiot
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bznyolxxsen
>>168744 His thing about 1 green mp being 1 too many was based. But yeah Ash is Trash and Masons bordeline retarded. You know that emily thorberry shit about commiting to standing down if the polls are bad. Thats a masonism
>Shilling Starmer
>>185747 Bastani is a lot more willing to call things as he sees them, unlike Owen Jones and Ash Sarkar who turn into triangles at the merest hint of danger to their reps
>>198703 He just savaged him on his ridiculous tweets this mourning. Bastani is what high test socialism looks like.

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Anonymous 01/05/2020 (Sun) 01:00:57 No. 198030 [Reply] [Last]
Should supporting communism be unacceptable?
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>>198043 Hey man you can stop shitposting now. Your post history of cheering on killing kulaks n shit doesn't square well with this. .t mod
>>198174 No he'd be dead because Hitler would have exterminated all the Slavs.
>>198539 Also Yeltsin wouldn't exist. Yes, Yeltsin was a kulak.
>>198030 >The communists were just as bad as the Nazis! >Actually, when you think about it, the communists were worse than the Nazis, after all the communists killed over a hundred million while the Nazis only killed 6 million >In fact, Hitler was really just trying to stop vile communism from spreading to Germany >And after all, Hitler didn't try to destroy the culture and history of his people like the communists did >Come to think of it, there's a lot we could learn from Hitler, he revitalized the German economy, enshrined German national pride and almost snuffed out the threat of Soviet communism, too bad he got caught by the old Russian winter, classic blunder! Haha >Maybe we should take another look at Hitler, especially now that communist corruption is beginning to take hold again here in the West >And, hey, you know a little right-wing militancy isn't uncalled for when it's the communist menace you're dealing with >Here's some literature about the insidious communist menace that's been corrupting our fair society and (((who))) has been funding them >And don't forget Mein Kampf, it is only by continuing the struggle that our glorious martyred Führer left behind that we can possibly hope to root Judaeo-Bolshevism out of our culture and institutions.
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>>198030 Reddit is where people go to die and turn into neoliberal bots of the system. Also, that site is completely in the hands of the CIA

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Anonymous 01/03/2020 (Fri) 01:49:07 No. 194575 [Reply] [Last]
Is it true that communism 'discounts human traits'?
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>>197882 You are regurgitating ruling ideology. >businesspeople’s incentives. >consummer-signals If you want to release you creativity as a product maker you'll be able to do that under communism, what changes here is that instead of money calculation you'll do material requisitioning and labour time calculation. There's also going to be design competition, which is the same like in markets just that all the other competition elements that do not relate to design are removed. Marketing is basically going to be changed to appeal to rational consumption rather than plug emotional strings. There is basically going to be consumption feed-back similar to markets, but people will use labour-money, that is based on time, rather then a fiat currency. The market is going to be replaced for "the backbend of the economy". Basically all capital-goods and resource-flows will be allocated by a cybernetic planning algorithm. Basically all capital will be in the commons and there will not be anything like separate firms. Everybody will get payed the same hourly-wage for contributing labour-time to the cybernetic system, but there will still be additional incentive payments for types of labour that demand personal sacrifice from people. This is going to be function better that capitalism because it has production for use, not production for sale, that will avoid overproduction and underproduction problems of capitalism. Individual people will be encouraged to pro-order in order to increase planning accuracy and, this will entail both a cost reduction that will be passed on to people because pre-ordering allows for perfectly exact allocation of resources and labour-time, as well as a cultural component that elevated the most advanced part of human cognition, namely the ability to plan for the future. A major difference to capitalism is going to be that there's a limited amount of persona wealth you can accumulate. While this might sound like a disadvantage to you, scientific studies have show that monetary incentives only improve performance of people up to the point where they have personal security and a few luxuries, if increase monetary incentives further, then performance of people starts to decline. So in capitalism not only do over-pay capitalists, we also induce worse performance. >former communist countries Former communist countries have almost all economies that perform worse, compared to soviet era compared to avaialbe tech-level. While the Soviet system did have many flaws, it was still significantly better for the people than capitalism, especially Russia had about 12 million premature deaths cause by a mortality rate increase of 50% as a result of market introduction this means that the only thing that was worse than the introduction of market capitalism was the Nazi invasion with about 22 million premature deaths. >American success Amerca's rise to prominence was the result of being the only industrial power with industries that weren't destroyed in word war2. And the best economy was under New deal plocies that had enormous state intervention in the economy, as well as suppressed power of the financial sector and a shrinking share of the surplus, with lots of public spending of a partially planned economy. The subsequent neoliberal counter revolution that introduced market-fundamentalism combined with expanding military budgets for both cold war posturing and imperial aggression, with an enomous rise of inequality, has seen a much worse economy, that has completely paralysed economies from adapting to changing situations, no longer is reason, intelligence, democratic consent the guiding hand but rather the personal fancies of about 0.3 percent of "concentrated-wealth-tyrants" which consistently and at enormous scale act against the interests of the people. Also the rise in high-tech industry is not the result of capitalist entrepreneurs, but it's public spending in military project that do the hard work of R&D for the tech sectors and than it gets handed over to rich people and their large corporations to commercialise it for virtually zero risk and lots of profit. The capitalist system basically crashed in 2008, which cause the rise of market totalitarianism, which is now actively destroying humans and is stealing from the general population to keep the system afloat.

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Yes when we get proficient with Bio-tech you'll get discount prices for human traits. ON a serious note: no capitalism is not human nature. That's just propaganda, that's supposed to persuade you that the status quo is unchangeable.
>>197878 Orwell was a communist, you insufferable fool.
>>198163 But Ms Hoover from school told us that Napoleon was Stalin. She even gave us students a golden star each time we pledged for the flag and told her we would die for America!

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News 1/4/20 News Anon 3.0 01/04/2020 (Sat) 22:07:35 No. 197827 [Reply] [Last]
Rockets land close to US Embassy in Baghdad, no known casualties - military Several explosions have rocked Baghdad’s heavily fortified Green Zone, where the US Embassy is located. The Iraqi military confirmed that some rockets were fired, targeting the area. https://on.rt.com/a8fa Iran to take international legal measures against U.S. for Soleimani's killing - TV Iran will launch legal measures at the international level to hold the United States to account for the assassination of Qassem Soleimani, Tehran’s most prominent military commander, Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif told state TV on Friday. https://www.reuters.com/article/iraq-security-blast-iran/iran-to-take-international-legal-measures-against-us-for-soleimanis-killing-tv-idUSL1N298105 Bolivia: Election Tribunal Confirms Election for May 3rd, 2020 Óscar Hassenteufel, a member of the Supreme Electoral Tribunal, said that the general elections are scheduled for May 3. He also maintained that the call will be made public on Monday, January 6. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Bolivia-Election-Tribunal-Confirms-Election-for-May-3rd-2020-20200103-0009.html Lebanon receives Interpol notice for ex-Nissan fugitive Lebanese Justice Minister Albert Serhan told The Associated Press in an interview that Lebanon “will carry out its duties,” suggesting for the first time that the automotive titan may be brought in for questioning. https://apnews.com/b2719fbea243d6f043586ace6d2dcd8b Corbyn calls on UK govt to ‘stand up to the belligerent actions’ of US after assassination of Iran’s Quds chief Soleimani

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US government agency website crashes amid panic over military draft A US government agency which registers young men for a potential military draft saw its website crash.It added that it was “conducting business as usual” and emphasised that a return to the draft is not imminent: “In the event that a national emergency necessitates a draft, Congress and the president would need to pass official legislation.” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/04/us-military-draft-iran-selective-service-system The acting chief of the Department of Homeland Security says there's 'no specific, credible threat' from Iran against the US Chad Wolf, acting chief of the Department of Homeland Security, said in a statement on Friday that there is "currently no specific, credible threats against our homeland." https://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-security-chief-says-theres-no-credible-threat-from-iran-2020-1 Leader of border militia group pleads guilty to gun charge The leader of a militia group that captured migrants at gunpoint along the U.S.-Mexico border has pleaded guilty to a federal weapons charge. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/476779-leader-of-border-militia-pleads-guilty-to-gun-charge https://archive.is/bgvwj Yang to launch write-in campaign for Ohio primary Entrepreneur Andrew Yang will launch a write-in campaign to appear on the Ohio presidential primary ballot after an issue with his application prevented it from being approved. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/476746-yang-campaign-to-launch-write-in-campaign-for-ohio-primary https://archive.is/uYEta

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Dispatches From Asgardsrei: Ukraine’s Annual Neo-Nazi Music Festival At one neo-Nazi metal festival in Milan, Italy in April of 2019, cell phones and cameras weren’t allowed inside. But that wasn’t the case in December 2019 in Kyiv, Ukraine, at the annual Asgardsrei event, which is the neo-Nazi black metal music festival that’s made the Ukrainian capital home since 2015.This meant that fans of national socialist black metal (NSBM) bands from all over Europe and beyond could get photo and video souvenirs of their favourite Nazi-praising performers in action. Yet by posting and promoting these souvenirs on public social media profiles, especially Instagram, they also gave us a window into Kyiv’s Hitler-saluting, Sieg-Heil-ing, Nazi-promoting December tradition that is the Asgardsrei festival. https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/01/02/dispatches-from-asgardsrei-ukraines-annual-neo-nazi-music-festival/ The Mainstream Media Is a Cheerleader for War With Iran The upshot was not, of course, that the illegal killing was kind of a big deal or that the person who authorized it — Donald Trump — had potentially set the stage for calamity and bloodshed of untold proportions. Rather, the crucial point to focus on was the “polarized reaction by American news outlets.”Trotted out to confirm the severity of the situation was one William A. Jacobson of Cornell Law School, who bemoaned the sad state of the “liberal media”: “Take any topic and they portray Trump as irresponsible and ignorant. This time those portrayals are on steroids, with Trump being portrayed as a warmonger surrounded by sycophants isolated from reality.”Well, yeah.In reality, the oft-invoked allegation of “polarization” in the media and the broader political establishment hardly holds water; it’s like arguing that 21 degrees Fahrenheit and 22 degrees Fahrenheit are polar opposites. Just recall, for example, that time Trump fired cruise missiles at Syria and the liberal media thought it was pretty much the most exciting thing to have ever happened.A glance at media coverage of the Soleimani assassination also fails to produce much evidence of a fanatical anti-Trump campaign. The lead paragraph of a New York Times article about the “Master of Iran’s Intrigue” is devoted to establishing how Soleimani was “behind hundreds of American deaths in Iraq and waves of militia attacks against Israel.” The second paragraph reiterates that he was a “powerful and shadowy . . . spymaster at the head of Iran’s security machinery.” https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/01/war-iran-qassem-soleimani-drone-strike-death-mainstream-media Australia Wildfire Coverage Is Long on Koalas, Short on Causes Though coverage of the Australian fires was slow to take off — leading New York magazine (12/31/19) to worry that disasters are starting to get lost in “the white noise of catastrophe” — it’s begun to capture more international attention, while highlighting the effects of climate change: Scientific American (12/31/19), in a story headlined “This Is What Climate Change Looks Like,” noted southeast Australia is now in an unprecedented third straight year of drought conditions, and called the link between the fires and human-caused climate change “scientifically undisputable.” Yet media have mostly remained resistant to addressing which human policies helped lead us to this point, and what will be needed to prevent matters from getting much, much worse. https://fair.org/home/australia-wildfire-coverage-is-long-on-koalas-short-on-causes/
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Anonymous 01/05/2020 (Sun) 09:53:12 No. 198554 [Reply] [Last]
What if I told you building capitalism is actually antithetical to building socialism?
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>>198577 Most German cuisine are just junk food and beer.
I would tell you to read Marx. The further development of capitalism is the same the developing the conditions for socialism.
>>198567 As well as shifting capital toward capitalists...
>>198581 Marx would've laughed in your face if you told him the countries that'd become socialist were Russia and China. Outdated.
>>198592 Marx proven right yet again

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Anonymous 01/03/2020 (Fri) 05:59:07 No. 195091 [Reply] [Last]
Damn, that's the world we live in now Yeah, hold on, just hear me out They tell me I'ma be a legend I don't want that title now 'Cause all the legends seem to die out What the fuck is this 'bout?
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>>195091 I DONT FEEL LIKE COMING TO THE PHONE TODAY
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Feel like pure shit just want him back
are eye pea to a real one
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>>195161 >implying anything would change with bernie

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Is there anything that can be done to stop World War III? Anonymous 01/05/2020 (Sun) 02:01:15 No. 198146 [Reply] [Last]
Serious time, comrades, these past few days have been dark and tense, shadows loom over this decade and not even a week has passed. Already a whole new generation trembles at the thought of a war, a total war, a world war. I won't lie, I am utterly terrified, in my heart of hearts I hope a war encompassing the whole of the Middle East does not break out in the next few months but the odds are looking bleaker and bleaker. For those of us who read Lenin we know that the redivision of territories between imperialists is an inevitable course for capitalist imperialism, except unlike in Lenin's time such a war might very well mean doom for humanity. In fact, what with the dire conditions of our ecosystem/biosphere a world war might spell our doom even if it doesn't go nuclear. During the First World War socialists argued that proles had absolutely no interest in the imperialist war, they argued that the workers need only to lay down their weapons or turn them on those aristocrats and politicians and capitalists that sent them to die. Not tryna suggest people do violent shit, not a glowie, but I do want to know if there's anyway we could reach the proles at this point? This war, it will be a horror beyond compare, even before the nukes fly there are drones, robotics, bio-weaponry, chemical weaponry, and who the fuck knows what else porkies have been cooking up in their secret labs; porkies have been preparing for such a war ever since the last one ended, and let me tell you whatever they've crafted likely would've given Hitler a heart attack. Found this post somewhere, it is an excerpt of a private journal of a man conscripted to fight in the First World War: >But one night, when the rain came down in torrents, the tide invaded our dugout and cascaded down both sets of steps. At the height of the storm, some of the men had to devote all their efforts to building a dam, which the water then broke through at three or four places. We spent the rest of the night battling the floodwaters. The next day, December 10, at many places along the front line, the soldiers had to come out of their trenches so as not to drown. The Germans had to do the same. We therefore had the singular spectacle of two enemy armies facing each other without firing a shot. Our common sufferings brought our hearts together, melted the hatreds, nurtured sympathy between strangers and adversaries. Those who deny it are ignoring human psychology. Frenchmen and Germans looked at each other, and saw that they were all men, no different from one another. They smiled, exchanged comments; hands reached out and grasped; we shared tobacco, a canteen of jus [coffee] or pinard. If only we spoke the same language! One day, a huge devil of a German stood up on a mound and gave a speech, which only the Germans could understand word for word, but everyone knew what it meant, because he smashed his rifle on a tree stump, breaking it into two in a gesture of anger. Applause broke out on both sides, and the “Internationale” was sung. Well, if only you had been there, mad kings, bloody generals, fanatical ministers, jingoistic journalists, rear-echelon patriots, to contemplate this sublime spectacle! But it wasn’t enough that the soldiers refuse to fight one another. What was needed was for them to turn back on the monsters who were pushing them, one against the other, and to cut them down like wild beasts. For not having done so, how much longer would the killing go on? Excerpt from Poilu: The World War I Notebooks of Corporal Louis Barthas, Barrelmaker, 1914-1918 Comrades, I don't say this lightly, we are likely the most important generation to exist in human history, the most important generation of communists to live, we are the last with the chance to save our world and bring us to a time of stability, peace, and abundance without capitalism; this is the very last chance, what is to be done?
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>>198158 This 100%. Socialism or death at this point.
>>198213 Have you forgot how nuclear holocaust almost happened? Only USSRs sanity deterred it. I’m afraid there’re no sane sides left.
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>OMG war!
>>198420 >Only USSRs sanity deterred it. That was a mistake
>>198256 Mad max? When anyone says something like that the response is that they are naively optimistic. Believing that anyone would survive in a post apocalyptic capitalocene scenario is delusionally utopian. The whole series is largely a critique of capitalism. Socialism or death, all the robot people who don't feel that any of this is real are already dead.

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Anonymous 12/29/2019 (Sun) 00:06:46 No. 190347 [Reply] [Last]
Reddit is such a transparently glow in the dark propaganda factory, it's fucking absurd. Some of the shit I've seen on there the past year has been so blatantly glow in the dark It's obscene. Before you ask why I go on reddit, I mostly just browse /r/ass and /r/paag and other places that collect giant asses, because I'm a degenerate.
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>>193428 Comparing the re-education centers to Guantanamo is inaccurate and dishonest. Guantanamo is a prison, and not a very humane one. The re-education centers are active during the day only, no one is held there 24/7, they go in the day and return home at night. Attendance is mandatory but they're not prisons.
>>190347 The front page of reddit at least seems opposed to war with Iran.
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>used to think the hatred on image boards towards Reddit was overblown >just a couple weeks ago finally start to actually use Reddit >check the Cum Town subreddit >there's a bot in the comments that automatically replies to any user that has posted on ChapoTrapHouse to warn the other users wtf is this gay circle-jerk shit? and cum town is supposed to be an edgy "dirtbag left" community I can only imagine how fucking faggy and anti-discussion the rest of the sitre is
>>198443 Yeah the dirtbag left shit is just edgy succdems trying to piss off the radlibs. Besides cum town isn't even leftist.

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