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Anonymous 10/05/2020 (Mon) 00:02:14 No. 953273 [Reply] [Last]
What do you guys think of pan Germanism?
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>>1135962 Reuploaded with some missing city markers added and some border adjustments in Turkey https://lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=14678
>>1147357 My explanation that I am not a Fascist must be extremely convincing/indisputable, considering that none of my comrades who accused me of Fascism have attempted to dispute my explanation, LOL.
>>953273 Don't think nothing much of it at all. The politics of southern Europe are rather tiresome. I hear a lot of them don't even have proper free healthcare, that's just sad.
>>1150177 Any response to my explanation that I’m not a Fascist?

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Glowies in leftists orgs Anonymous 11/20/2020 (Fri) 23:33:41 No. 1156334 [Reply] [Last]
How common is it for leftist orgs to be infiltrated by glowies? What are some leftist organizations that glow especially bright?
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Any non-terrorist organisation has a very low chance of being infiltrated by government agents, its not worth their time.
>>1156362 Dirty dumb Newfag scum
>>1156801 There was also the Marxist-Leninist Party of the Netherlands (?) or something back in the 1960s/1970s. And the whole thing was an op from the start, run by the Dutch intelligence services, and the rank-and-file kiddos (probably not many) had no idea. But apparently the point wasn't to spy on this kids -- at least not the main point -- but to cultivate ties with the Chinese state so they could collect information about what was going on there. So yeah, it's like this Comrade De Vries and he would love more information and maybe he could pay a visit to China on a solidarity mission etc. etc. etc. And it's all an intelligence gathering mission. Pretty spooky.
>>1156801 I swear they did this in Japan too
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>>1156988 Haha. No. Well in the U.S. at least, the domestic intelligence apparatus is so massively resourced with legions of federal hunt-and-peckers roaming around that they'll spy on local Moms for Peace groups. But mainly, they sit back and listen, gather intelligence, and then when they can, prod the n00bs into crossing the conspiracy-to-commit-crimes threshold which works remarkably well with right-wing groups. If anything though, they have too much information for their own good because of the digital world that they're operating in now, too. So it's like, how do you synthesize all this information so you know what's true and what's bullshit? The local cops can be hapless here, case in point being when some boomer guy circulates a fake message on Facebook that 10,000 antifa are going to come burn down their local Waffle House out in the middle of nowhere. The local cops are morons and suck up the same disinfo and don't know anything. The feds are a lot smarter but even then they have to figure out what's what, and you know what the solution to that is? Human sources. We after all know what's true and what's bullshit (or, well, hopefully most of us do) but that's not always clear to those guys.

Praxis in the 21st century Anonymous 11/19/2020 (Thu) 21:21:54 No. 1153065 [Reply] [Last]
We have got multiple serious problems here on the far left, and I am going to try to describe them all to the best of my abilities. I'm going to be speaking strictly as a burger here First off is organizing. How the hell are we supposed to organize in a modern day context when unions have been obliterated, the unions that are left aren't even slightly revolutionary, when most people don't give a quarter of a fuck about politics, and to the extent that they do care, the pinnacle of their involvement comes down to voting every 2-4 years? How are we supposed to seize the means of production when everything is manufactured overseas now? How are we supposed to take over the factories when all of our manufacturing is in China, India ect? And even worse, your average burger is a service worker, which has fuck all to do with producing shit. So not only are there no means of production to seize domestically, even if we could seize the MoP, most people are service workers and thus don't know how to run them, and thats assuming that they want to because they have been placated to all hell with gas stations, restaurants, video games, and various other toys and trinkets. And second to last, there is the atomized, isolated, individualist culture of Americans as well. Nobody here has any sense of solidarity or community. Everybody just lives in a box on their own, and nobody wants to get to know one another, nobody wants to rock the boat, and have no interest in participating in the seed of workers orgs even if they wanted to. All of this is to be topped off with the fact that the American left is utterly toothless. Who are the greatest leftwing minds in America at present? Noam Chomsky? Richard Wolff? They're a massive far cry from the Vladimir Lenins and Thomas Sankaras of old. So then what can we do? What is to be done in the 21st century? Because the old tactics don't work anymore and though plenty of people want an alternative, none of them have any idea what its supposed to look like, or how they're even supposed to make it happen. So what are we to do? Can somebody please give me some advice?
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>>1153640 Two stabbings at the DC action last weekend went unreported by the MSM because they couldn't mention the street nurses that are already at these actions without starting a national revolution against the professional class. You don't need bourgeois degrees to render services.
>>1155165 *managerial class
>>1155165 Nurses have degrees though.
>>1155189 Don't (you) me until you understand syllogisms.
>>1155165 What DC action do you speak of comrade? I must know the details.

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Anonymous 11/21/2020 (Sat) 05:54:19 No. 1156946 [Reply] [Last]
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON I'm the person who did the Smartmatic post from like a year and a half ago. Talking about how SMARTMATIC WAS BOUGHT OUT BY A BRITISH CORPORATION WHOSE LORD OWNER HAD JOINED IN ON LITERALLY TRYING TO THROW VENEZUELA'S 2017 CONSTITUENT ELECTION IN THE GUAIDO COUP ATTEMPT When I made the post it detailed how > Smartmatic was an electronics company that had received financing from a finance industry investment fund to the tune of 200,000 a 28% ownership share that had wanted to help Venezuela's fledgling electronics industry and it's goal of bringing forward digital democracy in the new republic. https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/washington/29ballot.html > Venezuela in the middle of it's financial crisis liquidated it's state-assisted owning stakes in a number of the companies this fund (Panagroup, whose information is now inaccessible compared to when I made the original post) Smartmatic had been (as is practice for Venezuelan Bourgeois shits) been dealing out ownership stakes across various holdings companies and entities that lie outside of Venezuelan Tax jurisdiction. Which was a process that culminated in the companies total buyout by a British Capitalist in 2014. > Just after the liquidation and before the 2015 election Smartmatic was bought up and restructured under SGO corporation headed by British Lord Mark Malloch Brown.

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additionally the og post was on /leftypol's 8chan board which obvs now has been wiped.
>>1156946 There are archived threads on archive websites. I'd check there. I unfortunately can't remember your thread.
>>1156946 Dude, you are talking about threads made 1 year and a half time ago. The threads here recycle like 1 per day to the trash can. Ask in the matrix for information to access old threads, but I think you will not able to do so. Anyway, Smartmatic decided to no work with the Venezuelan government in 2018, alleging through an official CEO that they could not certify the results duh, because you weren't sending the technicians, motherfucker Smarmatic CEO in a way to delegitimize the elections. The government had to hire Chinese technicians from the company that actually produce the chipsets (shitmatic is just the programmer and assembler) to support both technical and quality control support. If you are too concerned about the Rudy Ghouliani shittalk, I recommend you to relax.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190612074415/https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2914448.html Found it. I'm a little more calm now. But what got me was how willing these cunts are to say the opposite of what things are and i'm a little amused at how willing these types are to drop their assets

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News 11/20/20 News Anon 3.0 11/20/2020 (Fri) 20:05:57 No. 1155837 [Reply] [Last]
Iran’s allies on high alert in Trump’s final weeks in office Iran has instructed allies across the Middle East to be on high alert and avoid provoking tensions with the U.S. that could give an outgoing Trump administration cause to launch attacks in the U.S. president’s final weeks in office, Iraqi officials have said. https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-iran-middle-east-baghdad-7532d20c40b9d1240c77f26f621d2902 Aid workers say US plans to blacklist Yemen's Houthis could cost innocent lives Humanitarian agencies say the possible designation of Yemen's Houthis as a foreign terrorist organisation by the United States could prevent life-saving aid from reaching remote areas of the war-torn country. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/yemen-united-states-blacklist-houthis-cost-innocent-lives Russian Jailed for Sharing Military Secrets With CIA – TASS A Russian citizen who worked on naval ships has been sentenced to 13 years in prison for attempting to pass military secrets to the CIA, the state-run TASS news agency reported Friday. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/11/20/russian-jailed-for-sharing-military-secrets-with-cia-tass-a72103 FM Bruno Rodriguez Denies Alleged Cuban Intrusion in US Election "President Trump's representatives are mercilessly lying by spreading false information about alleged Cuban interference in U.S. elections. Pure slander. In contrast to current U.S State Department policy, Cuba does not interfere in the electoral process of other countries," Rodriguez twitted. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/FM-Bruno-Rodriguez-Denies-Alleged-Cuban-Intrusion-in-US-Election-20201120-0006.html 'Night of the beating': details emerge of Riyadh Ritz-Carlton purge

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thanks news anon
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Thanks newsanon
>>1155837 why are Yemeni people getting fucked over extra hard ?
>>1156474 yemeni is suffering

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neo-narodniks Anonymous 11/17/2020 (Tue) 16:28:16 No. 1144936 [Reply] [Last]
What is the obsession with some corners of the left with the rural peasantry? I just read this review of Andreas Malm's new book. https://brooklynrail.org/2020/11/field-notes/Corona-Climate-Chronic-Emergency The author basically argues that the problem with Malm is that he doesn't spend enough time talking about "forest people" or the rural peasantry! I don't understand how someone could think that a retrograde, tiny class could fix the climate crisis. Like especially forest people, who barely engage in the world economy! It's this frustrating, naive, narodnik, noble-savage crap. What do you all think? Does the rural peasantry still have any revolutionary potential?
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>>1144936 eco-leninism when
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>>1154444 you're gonna stay the fuck away
>>1154444 Predators get fixed long before they would ever see the wall, kid.
>>1155624 >you're gonna stay the fuck away 20 years and have already forgotten matchlock muskets? Oh, well. >>1155803 >Predators get fixed long before they would ever see the wall, kid. Say what?

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Anonymous 11/20/2020 (Fri) 23:32:56 No. 1156333 [Reply] [Last]
does anyone have a good marxist analysis of how the EU functions politically and economically?
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>>1156351 You think he ever met Black Panther?
>>1156553 Yes. He and Black Panther worked with Marvel to figure how they could use movies with women and brown people to turn all white men into cute femboys.
Go and dive into what yanis varoufakis writes. He is basically the go to Marxist about the EU. It's his thing.
>>1156353 Even some non-mainsteam economists in France say the Euro is a scam, because the French economy would need a weaker currency to boost exports. People like Frédéric Lordon (before he took some sort of insurrectionist turn) and Jacques Sapir said it isn't a good deal for France because the French economy is more similar to Italy and Spain than Germany, and that these three former countries cannot boost their internal demand with Keneysian-style deficits, which would greatly help from a welfare capitalist standpoint. Germany doesn't want any deficit at all. >>1156604 This.
I haven't read it, but Perry Anderson (academic Marxist par excellence, for better or worse) has a long-ass book analyzing the EU. PDF attached. One book I have read I can recommend is ''The Making of an Atlantic Ruling Class' by Kees van der Pijl. It's a study of how the US imperialism integrated Europe into its circuit of capital in the wake of WWII, getting into the nitty gritty of the specific bankers and bureaucrats that made it happen. Due to its age it doesn't get into the EU proper, just the EEC, but it's still worth a read. PDF also attached.

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Gorbachev Anonymous 11/19/2020 (Thu) 13:19:57 No. 1151851 [Reply] [Last]
Who is he to you?
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>>1154060 Imagine being a socdem in 1980s when the socdem states were being eviscerated by neoliberalism.
>>1155040 Maybe the thought process was that socdem rule under an ML party state could prevent what was happening to France's Mitterand government or the Scandinavian world. You have to remember that hindsight is 20/20 and all political actors are responding essentially blind and in the moment, whether in good faith or not. My impression of Gorbachev has always been that he was wrong but working in good faith, not that it matters much in politics but I don't wanna shoot the guy like other people on the board.
>>1155070 This was after the USA overthrew Latin American nations that were socdem for fascist regimes. The Statsi wrote a paper on how the US under Ronald Reagon was making way for the second coming of Nazism and Honecker agreed with this assessment.
>>1152000 Any suggested readings by Honecker?
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Anyone else here bad at reading? Anonymous 11/20/2020 (Fri) 19:00:18 No. 1155655 [Reply] [Last]
I wish I was well-read so I could have better discussions here, but I am just terrible at reading anything longer than a news article. I have a short attention span, so reading books is really a drag form. The only leftist literature I've read are The Communist Manifesto and about 1/3-1/2 of The Conquest of Bread. And even with The Communist Manifesto, I didn't read the whole pdf, as the pdf had a bunch of extra things tacked on. I read all extra things except for a thing about the Paris Commune. Surely I'm not the only one on Leftypol who is bad at reading, right?
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I'm slowly realizing I have ADHD. It explains why it's so hard for me to focus on reading even though I love it. My attention just drifts and soon I realize I read 2 or 3 pages without comprehending a word of any of it.
>>1155655 > I have a short attention span, so reading books is really a drag form. Read stuff which you understand. My problem is, whenever I read something what I don't understand, my attention falls down in less than 10 minutes. There are plenty of good texts which are extremely insightful and still easy to understand, like this: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/mar/x01.htm
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>>1155655 >tfw you just read wikipedia articles
>>1156251 (OP) That's pretty much most of what I do
>>1155692 So? Buy second hand. You can't focus when reading on screens since your brain associates that pc with automatic impulses. Like how you type in the name of that one site by muscle memory whenever your attention wavers for a second

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Landlords Anonymous 11/14/2020 (Sat) 23:38:35 No. 1134269 [Reply] [Last]
>What drove Mao into implementing barbaric and backwards policies on killing landlords? >Why are landlords considered "enemies"? >Can this be implemented in the west? >What's the difference between MZT, MLM, and Maoism? Sauce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Land_Reform#Mass_killings_of_landlords
destroying landlords is good praxis
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OK explain how we develop housing without landlords.
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>>1156564 With labor and a democratic planning, duh. How the fuck does it get done now? With labor and autocratic planning. The only difference is one mode of production depends on profits and the other does not. How the fuck do landlords even remotely play a roll in the production of housing in the first place? Most existing properties are not even owned by people who built them. It's nonsensical. Stop being a cuck for the borg.
>>1156564 Hell, most city planning isn't even done by capital owners in the first place. Capitalists go to the city for development and the city counsel works out the plan for where buildings should go. This idea that capitalists, or, landlords do anything other than own is fucking outstandingly retarded. We just want to bring the planning processes into the totality of the economy so that people can actually be free.
>>1156564 Grug use knife. Cut down tree then find rusty metal on ground. Use rusty metal sheet make wall on fallen tree then grug sleep in metal tree tent


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