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Anonymous 04/01/2020 (Wed) 04:05:31 No. 410400 [Reply] [Last]
How do you cope with the fact there won't ever be a revolution? Also I love how in modern propaganda posters they make the people fat hahahahhahaha it's truly fucking over, there's no winning with just land whales and trannies on your side. Just get a real job and stop larping online.
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>>410400 It's not like I can get a fucking job in a fucking pandemic!!!1111111
>>410465 So you admit you're one at the bottom of the barrel to be exploited? And I'm not even talking about being an "temporarily embarassed millionaire", just get a decent paying job, all you have to do is study for it and it's yours. Imagine if you did that instead of reading all this shit about communism online, you'd be so much happier in life.
>>410496 >So you admit you're one at the bottom of the barrel to be exploited? The fact that I'm posting on a dumb communist imageboard under quarantine instead of driving a truck or whatever or working in a supermarket or cleaning out garbage means that I'm not at the bottom of the barrel. It's the real working people out there right now who we should keep in our thoughts.
>>410464 success breeds jealously

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Occupy movement Anonymous 03/30/2020 (Mon) 23:49:37 No. 407449 [Reply] [Last]
What even happened to the Occupy movement ? Fuck that was a good opportunity to guillotine some of these motherfucker parasites but looks like it went the way of the civil rights movement. They just let us smoke more doobies and promote netflix and chill to pacify us some more, ramp up the dopamine pump as they say in public relations, probably. Fucking Bernays, what an absolute cunt he was, right ? I mean, after the revolution, he'll be remembered as a sort of Goebbels of the capitalist era, I bet. Anyway, what can we learn from it all ? How did it begin ? How did it fail ? What can we do to emulate its successes and avoid its failures ?
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>>410339 It's eased off a bit lately, but there moat certainly is a predictable set of inputs and outputs for corporate intersectionality that was definitely a widely spreading meme among the meatpuppets of thought There are plenty more marketing driven identities you can apply this to Interestingly they all seem to have lost their hold at an accelerating pace as SARS-CoV-2 spreads
>>407449 Its almost like student movements that has no ground support from the workers are doomed to fail.
>>409679 Remember unironically watching that.
>>410339 The NPC meme is pretty accurate though. Liberals really are like that a lot of the time. It's not that they're not real people or something, it's that they've been taught not to think but just remember and repeat stuff. Rather than being able to synthesize new thoughts, everyone is pushed toward having "the right answer" when given a prompt. When that's the basis of most people's ideology all you have to do is give authority figures the "answers" that you want people to believe.
>>410434 You're implying that liberals of the WaPo, Buzzfeed, hardcore Democrat type actually believe the shit they say and they're not just protecting their interests and status quo.

/idpol/ general Anonymous 04/01/2020 (Wed) 03:48:01 No. 410361 [Reply] [Last]
The gulag ere I mean school wherein cranky old grandmas and grandpas attempt to teach science at a university level to children obsessed with trans and incel issues
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Die in a hole and quit trying to make everything about how you are personally buttflustered because of someone's pronouns. Literally fucking die in a hole. Send me your address so I can force you to dig that hole and put you in it and kill you and bury you in it. This is literally all that I and anyone else have ever requested of you. Please just die and be buried, because worthless filth like you has no place anywhere.
>>410427 >>/leftypol/ trannies always whine about the rich elites. But they NEVER name who are said rich elites, that's the real difference Yeah nah lass, we're well aware 7/10 of the richest people in the USA are Jewish but that's a far less interesting face than that all ten of them combined have more than the lot of youse
>>410411 Everything means that lad Absolutely everything
Not locked
>>410375 When was this?

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USSR and Culture Anonymous 03/31/2020 (Tue) 17:57:35 No. 409068 [Reply] [Last]
Why was the USSR afraid of Rock 'n Roll? Why did the US associate Rock music with Communism? This is not (only) a troll thread, I want to discuss the legacy of culture and counter-culture in the western/eastern block.
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>>410144 Yeah, and a lot of cross-racial pollination and mixing of cultures. A lot of nu-metal albums would have crossover tracks with black hip hop artists, which is an interesting thing since today someone like Fred "redneck fucker from Jacksonville" Durst would read as a "chud" or whatever by Reddit libs. A thing about Limp Bizkit that is funny to me is that they seemed like they maintained their popularity in Europe to a relative degree, and particularly Russia. Where in the U.S. it became very unfashionable to like them. https://youtu.be/EZZ_rKbXMNM
>>409901 >They were tired of submitting to institutions like the state, family, religion, the ruling ideology ect. because the vauge promises of a better future never materialized. The ironic part was that in a lot of ways they did materialize. I sympathize a lot with the older generation, before boomers. Obviously their staunch conservatism (particularly in the US) was bad, but at the same time I can understand them being baffled by their kids rebellion. They grew up in times of serious hardship, and out of that came the most prosperous generation in human history. That generation proceeded to apparently reject everything that they had been given to it because it wasn't good enough. For a generation that grew up in the depression and the war, its easy to see how that could be frustrating. This isn't of course to say that the 60s counterculture wasn't making valid critiques, at least when it came to some things in the US like race and Vietnam. However lets be honest, the civil rights movement was driven by blacks who didn't want to be second class citizens. The anti-war movement was driven by a combination of disgruntled drafted proles and middle class kids who didn't want to be drafted, plus their families. The bulk of the counter cultural movement, barring those two groups, played very little role in actually accomplishing anything. The power of their class positions overtook most of these middle class faux rebels and they ended up as neolibs twenty years later. The people who frustrated and confused their parents with their seemingly pointless and needless rebellion actually accomplished nothing, and realized that they had no reason to rebel.
>>409142 Pretty much
>>410217 I think this helps explains why so many people in the older generation feel like their are no alternatives to capitalism. It is not all done by porky brainwashing, some of it has to be done internally. The movements of the 60's were a big leap in many regards but nothing really changed fundamentally and if anything things got worst in america as the new deal protections got stripped away. They were a generation that at least lashed out against 'something' and much of that was done in ways amendable under the system. Such as buying LPS and doing LSD. I was talking to a genx co-worker a while back, we talked about politics a bit and he mentioned how a lot of the 90's grunge aesthetic was a reaction too the more 'wolf of wallstreet' high excess flashiness of the 80s. It made me think about how the 'peace dividend' of the clinton years was really the death of the counterculture. It was when capitalism could only be rejected in image and no longer with substance as neolibs began their reign.
>>409782 This event is only notable because poptimists (and their counterparts in the hip hop world) want something to justify themselves despite completely selling out to the establishment. So an event with racial overtones from 40 years ago has to do. It’s sad that’s all they can come up with tbh By that point Disco was pretty damn played out and just about as “subversive” as normie pop is today. You didn’t have to be a racist to dislike it

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/dprk/ -- DPR Korea General Comrade 08/05/2019 (Mon) 14:04:23 No. 9051 [Reply] [Last]
Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
Archive of first ~500 posts on original thread:
https://archive.fo/pRkxK
Subsequent archives:
https://archive.fo/https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2265496.html
Related archives:
https://archive.fo/HbuXi
https://archive.fo/https://8ch.net/leftpol/res/36983.html
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>>409661 The coronavirus finally got to them, huh?
>>409663 Unlikely, the Supreme People's Assembly approved of the building of the hospital in December 2019.
>>409686 Nice.
Pyongyang Today Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YPXORZ6hZ0 It's such a beautiful city. I hope to be able to visit someday
>>410303 The buildings are paid actors yes burgers say this all the time

Has the US been historically less brutal and generally evil than other imperialist powers? Anonymous 03/31/2020 (Tue) 11:40:19 No. 408314 [Reply] [Last]
Not to say Amerika isn't the most evil country on the planet, not to say it isn't a monstrous global imperialist that uniquely in history only even exists because of slavery and genocide...so, yea, definitely one of the most evil empires (especially since it was originally an empire confined to the North American continent before conquering the Southern continent and taking over half the world after WWII) ever; I just mean though, the outward imperialism the US engaged in seems, at least, less murder crazed than the other European empires? Like, not justifying it at all, honestly I really just want to know why that seems to be the case. The British, well, their greatest hits makes it pretty damned clear the British Empire was the most evil enduring empire in history; their war strategy can be summed up as "Genocide anyone that doesn't have a gun" of course they got rocked when they finally faced equals in 1914 they got rocked hard and lost their empire in just 30 years. The Germans? Well, let's see, they wiped out 2/3 of European Jews in just five years, not to mention the genocide of countless other millions in the East of Europe, no more needs to be said for their crimes. The French were almost every bit as bad as the British, except less successful and they committed their crimes in a French way. The Spanish bastards got the "global overseas colonial conquest" ball rolling to begin with...so fuck em. Why the fuck is the US seemingly less evil than these bastards? Are they just that good at covering shit up? That good at having puppets and proxies do their bidding?
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>>409038 >Most of the military coups in South America against leftist governments were products of the local bourgeois and would’ve occurred without the US. >literally no case in recorded history where this had happened This is hilariously false. The local bourgeois were not only incompetent but didn’t even get popular support from nationalistic elements as they themselves loathed the national culture and aspired themselves to their colonial masters. Without the imperialist interventions communists would have taken roots much deeper. >>409700 >Allende’s coalition won by a Plurality. <Declassified documents show that from 1962 through 1964, the CIA spent a total of $2.6 million to finance the campaign of Eduardo Frei and spent $3 million in anti-Allende propaganda "to scare voters away from Allende's FRAP coalition". The CIA considered its role in the victory of Frei a great success.[32][33] They argued that "the financial and organizational assistance given to Frei, the effort to keep Durán in the race, the propaganda campaign to denigrate Allende—were 'indispensable ingredients of Frei's success'", and they thought that his chances of winning and the good progress of his campaign would have been doubtful without the covert support of the Government of the United States.[34] Thus, in 1964 Allende lost once more as the FRAP candidate, polling 38.6% of the votes against 55.6% for Christian Democrat Eduardo Frei. As it became clear that the election would be a race between Allende and Frei, the political right – which initially had backed Radical Julio Durán– settled for Frei as "the lesser evil". >During the 1970 election, the CIA did not provide direct assistance to any candidate, as they had during the 1964 elections, but rather focused on anti-Allende propaganda, and the 40 Committee approved $435,000 for that purpose.[3] In fact that represented only about half the money spent by the CIA to influence the election; the Church Committee put the total amount at between $800,000 and $1 million.[4] The money approved by the 40 Committee was used in a "scare campaign" of posters and pamphlets linking an Allende victory with the violence and repression associated with the Soviet Union.[2] Editorials and news stories reinforcing this message were also written with CIA guidance, especially in the newspaper El Mercurio, and disseminated throughout the national media. The goal was to contribute to and exploit the political polarization and financial panic of the period. Besides propaganda, the CIA also funded an attempt to splinter the Radical Party away from the Popular Unity coalition.[5][6] This CIA campaign was very inefficient. CIA director Richard Helms complained that he was ordered by the White House to "beat somebody with nothing".[2] Although the 40 Committee had decided not to support any candidate directly, the CIA did help American companies in funding candidates. In total, US businesses spend about $700,000; half of that sum was provided by the International Telephone & Telegraph Corporation (ITT).[4] Lmao I wonder why. The only reason he won that time was due to the KGB counterintelligence btfo’ing glowfags.
>>409038 >wtf is Iraq, Afghanistan >wtf is propping up Israel Also in many cases these things are not the product of local bourgeois in fact in many cases large segments of the local bourg oppose us influence. The US supported the side which was against democracy. You think something like the Iran contra affair can be excused as some kind of indirect influence? Read up you simply don’t know. They didn’t just do this, they did this as a matter of policy, you can read it in their own words, they systematically went around the world crushing leftist dissent whenever it arose. What do you think the cold was? You also realise in many places they outright assassinated people. Even in their own country they assassinated almost every single major black leader. Fred Hampton. Malcolm X. Martin Luther King. Many other lesser known ones. The US bangs on about their first amendment and la la la but then just straight up kill you. No need to censor you when you are dead.

Anonymous 04/01/2020 (Wed) 01:46:38 No. 410146 [Reply] [Last]
What are the most important papers in economics from the last decade?
Bump cause I'm interested nice band too
>reading new theory

Toronto construction worker's speech Anonymous 04/01/2020 (Wed) 00:26:38 No. 409996 [Reply] [Last]
It's pretty good and it's kind of going viral; too bad there's too much noise in the background to hear much: https://twitter.com/blogTO/status/1242851256399474691 Basically these workers are on the job site and have no protective gear, they can't wash their hands, they're breathing on each other from 6 feet away and they're getting pissed. That's the situation.
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/QTDDTOT/ III Anonymous 03/06/2020 (Fri) 19:16:47 No. 331128 [Reply] [Last]
Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread: Part Three
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I saw a tweet here that basically said we should end quarantine because it kills the less productive members of society. Can't find it anymore.
What makes a "stalinist" different from a standard ML?
>>410242 I’ve heard the term Stalinist more as an insult towards MLs rather than an actual political thought
>>410257 Most Trotskyists identify as Bolshevik Leninists but some Trotskyists also identify as ML, it's a useful distinction in that case Protip for extreme sectarian feuding in the communist tradition Stalinites would be a far stronger term of abuse it's to the Trots credit that they don't go there
>>410242 Stalinist is one type of ML. There are several, but I can't be arsed to list them as I don't care that deeply for ML theory as a whole.

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rage against the machine Anonymous 03/31/2020 (Tue) 02:10:40 No. 407730 [Reply] [Last]
>I'm raped for the grapes, profit for the bourgeoisie What is leftypol's opinion of the 90s band rage against the machine?
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>>407730 >>407735 >>407745 >>407763 >>407770 >>407770 >>407774 After I listened to his Solly Forever, literally the YouTube Recommendation was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ5Wc9QpOV0 some Woody Guthrie. Consoomers can get fucked, if more people consoomed this we'd have the revolution in a week
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>>408154 >Video unavailable >This video is not available.
>>407730 Inside Out was based that's about it.
>>407894 Know a lot of dumb fags that went their and became manual laborer chasing the American dream.
ghost of tom joad fucking slaps

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