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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general Comrade 08/05/2019 (Mon) 12:39:50 No. 8925 [Reply] [Last]
A general thread for all China related discussion
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>>206041 >Amnesty International
>>186827 >Reddit being racist They’re the /pol/ for neurotypicals
>>217920 >Are we reaching the point where the west will embrace islam as a bargaining chip against the chinese? >>217925 >The Isis was the vanguard. Muslims are many, poor, easily manipulated and live in all the important regions. Perfect ground where raise an army. Doesn't matter China has the better deal, most people will choose the economic development over the religious stuff. And consider that the strategy with whipping up Islamic fundies, is that every-time they do that China gets to analyse the operation. At some point they will be able to do counter intelligence operations, that negate this strategy.
>>218329 But the (((West))) simply can indoctrinate fundies way outside the reach of Da Dang arms and can also transfer them anywhere because the Ummah is everywhere. Also the main thing is using them to keep countries, like Malaysia and Indonesia, backward and in line geopolitically.
I just noticed I follow these guys on twitter (I don't remember following them, must have been drunk or something). https://twitter.com/qiaocollective >We are excited to announce our formation as Qiao, a collective of Chinese leftists in the diaspora committed to connecting the U.S. left to China's rich Marxist and anti-imperialist work and thought. Read our principles and stay tuned for more content: From their website: >Qiao is a collective of Chinese leftists living in the diaspora. >We aim to be a bridge between the U.S. left, particularly the Chinese diaspora left, and China’s rich Marxist, anti-imperialist historical and contemporary political work and thought. >We come together to respond to and challenge the intensification of U.S. aggression against the People’s Republic of China and to critically consider the current role of China and socialism with Chinese characteristics in contemporary geopolitics. >We seek to disrupt Western misinformation and propaganda and to affirm the basic humanity of Chinese people. We believe misinformation has weakened the U.S. left’s ability to connect the dots between U.S.-China relations and U.S. political, military, and economic imperialism in the Global South. >We aim to confront the internalization of U.S. propaganda amongst the U.S. left by critically and realistically examining China’s role in the world struggle against imperialism and capitalism.

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Thoughts on Red Guard Austin? Anonymous 01/13/2020 (Mon) 21:11:27 No. 212015 [Reply] [Last]
https://twitter.com/HeidiSloanForTX/status/1216604271430512640 They seem to be incredibly sectarian Maoists. I think its funny but it's probably going to give Marxist Leninists overall a worse rep with DSA people. Is it possible they're just cops? I have heard a few people say that.
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>>217500 There's actually several. Serve The People Austin is one of them.
>>212757 They're not cops, they just do the cop's work for them. They're trying to copy Chairman Gonzalo by being le epic scary edgy cult and failing miserably.
The problem with the people is that nobody think to be a part of it
>>215784 What is rhizzone?
>>218445 the left wing of SomethingAwful

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US murders head of Iranian Quds Force Anonymous 01/03/2020 (Fri) 01:19:09 No. 194551 [Reply] [Last]
US just bombed Baghdad airport 3 times and killed major military and governmental figures in Iraq and Iran Iraqi state TV is saying that not only was the head of Quds force killed, but 5 leading members, including the deputy director, of the PMF were killed as well. Rumors are floating that a major member of Lebanese Hezbollah was killed as well. https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1212902680957317120 https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/1212904529840234497 If Soleimani dying is true, a major game changer in US geopolitical moves in the middle east against Iran, and likely means war will happen soon.
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>>218104 That kid should be careful since Iranian nuclear scientists are often targeted for assassination by Mossad
>>218113 no, the bigger concern is that HARPA will destroy all Iranian nuclear power plants
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>>218199 >no, the bigger concern is that HARPA will destroy all Iranian nuclear power plants no they just have to line it with tinfoil, because tinfoil blocks harparays
>>217123 Sounds a lot like when they faked downed pilot statistics in Vietnam as technical errors rather than admitting they got shot by DRV MIGs. Can’t wait for the injured stats to be silently turned to deaths.
>>218309 smart

/leftydeutschpol/- Bunker Edition Comrade 08/06/2019 (Tue) 05:09:16 No. 11287 [Reply] [Last]
Jetzt wo 8chan, anscheinend für die nächste Zeit anscheinen down bleibt, können wir ja /leftydeutschpol/ general wiederbeleben.

>Landtagswahl in Brandenburg und Sachsen
Hab mir die Parteien die zur Wahl stehen angeguckt und muss sagen, dass das wirklich enttäuschend aussah, interessant war aber, dass sich die KPD-O in Sachsen aufstellen konnte, hoffen wir, dass sie ihr Prozente kriegen Anons!
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you drink vita cola right
>>217985 Vita Cola is the GDE consoomer choice GDR people with style drink Club Cola
>>217985 Never tasted it, apparently its more thicker and less sweet than conventional colas. >>218151 Heard of it, never understood the difference, care to explain?
>>217985 I only drink Kofola.

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Audio thread Anonymous 08/28/2019 (Wed) 14:29:26 No. 46642 [Reply] [Last]
Post audio sources
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Orthodoxy in the Media-Modern Media Censorship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jwliZ1YoCs

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RAIM is dead Anonymous 01/17/2020 (Fri) 05:44:06 No. 217462 [Reply] [Last]
https://www.revaim.org/statements/2019/12/10/farewell/ A few years ago during my M3W-days, I even translated some texts for them. Well, good bye.
NGL chief I have no clue who RAIM was
Given what a movement is, and given the intentions of the successors on the contrary it seems the RAIM is finally alive
it's a good thing. sakaists and fans of Zak Cope. fuck them

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MASS LINE - 10 Years To Save The World Anonymous 01/17/2020 (Fri) 22:21:20 No. 218307 [Reply] [Last]
Repost from: https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateCommunism/comments/arj4e7/a_modern_mass_line_could_save_the_world_11_years/ - There is no question that the Capitalist system is collapsing under the gravity of its constant failures. The world economy is entering into the final death spiral, and it's going to take us all down along with it if we don't act soon. Capitalists are more interested in selling you fashionable gas masks and inland property as a way to deal with climate change, rather than concerning themselves with the reality that their outrageous practices have set a timer for 11 years before we reach irreversible destruction. So I'm sure you agree we need to do something. Before we all panic, there is a solution that has been used to liberate countries in similar situations all over the world. This solution is known as a "mass line". What is a "mass line"? The term has nothing to do with holding hands across the world, or standing in a queue, I promise. The "mass line" is the primary Marxist method of revolutionary leadership of the people.

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>>218359 >Trying to address income inequality will lead to more consumption Pure ruling ideology. It is in fact the opposite only a radical levelling of wealth inequality will make it acceptable for people to reduce consumption to support efforts to tackle climate change.
Anyway, back to the mass line. I have witnessed first hand it’s effects with tenant organising in my area. The concept is the same, you go around knocking doors and most importantly building relationships with communities, with tenants it’s specifically to deal with landlord issues, but the scope is even bigger, groups like acorn for example have campaigns around public transport, local development etc It works.
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>>218369 >>218370 Except the endless consumption never stops. For every reasonably off prole you get some petit bourg hoarder that wants their two cars, foreign holidays and a McMansion at the end of a cul-de-sac It doesn't matter if you can put ten billion people like me on a planet, because some greedy PMC/small business owner will make sure well still exceed the carrying capacity of this planet. Just remember that if what you said was true, Nordic countries should be among the most sustainable on the planet. They're not. They just pretend to be. See https://www.sustainabledevelopmentindex.org/
(OP) I should have posted this first, but here goes: I am under no delusion that humanity as a collective can magically fix EVERYTHING in the infinitesimally small window we may or may not have to keep us from going full Mad Max. I have no 'hope' left in me, I have gone through the same psychological Doomer melt-down I would imagine most people with a deep enough understanding of the situation have. All the same, whether we can or can't fix everything 'in time' is still no reason to not try. We're all going to die one day, whether we see it coming or not. Our names will be forgotten and our bodies will return to the ground from where we came. Even with this knowledge, people still choose to live their lives in the present. Why? Because that is all we ever had. I'm not asking anyone to be thankful to live in age so fucked up as ours, not at all, but please do realize that you can do something positive with your mind and your muscles to help others in their struggles, whether or not you can change the world single-handedly (you won't and no-one expects you to). Lenin, Mao, Sankara, Che and Castro didn't change the world all by themselves, they all were able to improve the living conditions of those around them in the long and short-term through ACTION, not solely their words. Again, I'm not asking you to do everything yourself, just that you try to do something to end the suffering of the working class, that is all we ever can do, in truth.

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>>218379 No you are totally wrong here, inequality is alienating and that drives people to use consumerism as mental crutch to escape the feeling of alienation for a little while. If you reduce the inequality far enough than this will go away, if anything Norway is still too unequal. Most of the consumption desires are driven by status envy as well as the desire to copy successful people. Hence if you level wealth, than the main drivers for consumption will be reduced. Consider that mass-production for proles is better at economizing resources than small scale luxury production. And if you look at a per person consumption, reducing luxury production will have a greater effect. If everybody has to use the mass produced stuff, the shenanigans like planed obsolescence will end. If you make everybody use the stuff, crap production for the garbage heap will piss off the right people, and than that will end as well. If the decision makers no longer have enough wealth to pay extra for being prioritized, they will have to fix the waste in distribution. Lastly it will put everybody in the same boat, as long as decision makers think they have enough personal wealth to insulate them self's from climate change consequences they will not act. If they face the same consequences as everybody else they will have incentives to solve the problems.

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Anonymous 01/17/2020 (Fri) 21:01:40 No. 218217 [Reply] [Last]
i plan to read the bread book tomorrow,what can i except?
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>>218378 Well clearly you've never been on an imageboard either.
>>218382 how so?
>>218383 lurkmoar.
>>218380 guess thats fair
>>218385 what do you mean?i dont lurk,i responded to almost everything posted here

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Anonymous 01/16/2020 (Thu) 21:37:45 No. 216727 [Reply] [Last]
Is capitalism link to depression?
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>>217014 Based and hopepilled, unironically thank you for sharing anon
>>217010 Shit, dude, guess I'm not reading the spectacle.
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>>216749 >>216764 >>216800 >>217010 <Hot take: it was the Situs post-councilcom spontaneity worship that led them, and their followers, to depression. Take the Bordiga / Cockshott pill.
I'm bumploacking this thread for being such low quality. The topic is perfectly reasonable, but, try recreating it with more effort.
>>218375 Bullshit reason, cut this fucking quality control shit out already.

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/crisis/ General Comrade 08/05/2019 (Mon) 07:43:55 No. 8552 [Reply] [Last]
DOW/Market Watch Thread
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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>>218172 Even if I was able to legislate codetermination, rent controls,living wage, abolition of private medical insurance and private prisons, along with pro climate change legislation, you’d still try to shoot me.
>>218176 And I’m a Political Economy student.
>>218089 MMT is a theory, it can't be "done" by the USA. The USA CAN print more money than most other countries can and benefit somewhat, but at the end of the day it still has limits and is just a temporary pump that has a nearly equivalent backlash. MMT has nothing to do with this capability, and in fact, the Marxist understanding of fiat explains it much better. Marxist political economy explains that "moderate" inflation can actually be desirable to the bourgeoisie as, among other things, a form of class warfare. While the inflation erodes wages, the new bills are disproportionately distributed to banks and big businesses, effectively redistributing the existing value in the economy to the bourgeoisie. With the petrodollar and the USD as a world reserve currency, the USA can enjoy the same kind of benefit on a world scale.
>>218090 that guy is a joke
There is no contradiction between Marx and MMT. MMT explains currency acceptance and Marx explains currency value. This is the best beginner article on the synthesis: http://heteconomist.com/currency-acceptance-currency-value-and-transcending-capitalism/ Also, this article is good: http://heteconomist.com/currency-value-in-terms-of-socially-necessary-labor/

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