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Anonymous 07/04/2020 (Sat) 13:15:20 No. 665946 [Reply] [Last]
Is history more important than theory?
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>>665946 both are equally useless
>>666017 History is the base, my friend. It seems easterners always put the primary on theory while neglecting history. Theory helps you see better, but you need to see first in order to build a theory. So from Marxist historiography comes Marxist theory. Marx and Engels, were first proletarian historians and from that they came up with Marxist theory. Now read this book http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=90EC0A5AFDCF51AB78B2B66BA39BFB42 and see how good knowledge of history is fundamental to develop a theory
>>666475 begone, centrist.
>>665946 A person who knew all history perfectly would be able to construct the most viable theory possible. A person who knew all theory wouldn't know anything.
>>665946 They're both equally important. You need theory to interpret history. You need history to inform theory. They feed into each other and represent a single, intertwined process. It's dialectics.

Antideutsche Anonymous 07/04/2020 (Sat) 10:56:28 No. 665772 [Reply] [Last]
What do you think about them, german anons? Is it a popular stance to hold in german leftist circles? Aren't they just european and more liberal version of Sakaists and post colonialists?
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>>666261 Yes they do as i've stated here >>665833
>>666844 if i hadn't deleted twitter this would've been a fire tweet
>>666851 someBODY
>>666403 Ehh, before taking power lot of theory he and Zhou Enlai advanced was just basic Stalinist/soviet conservative stuff, like defence of material incentives (which includes the hard-working party-bureacrats ofc) or declaring the end of class antagonisms in their respective countries because "muh worker's and peasant's state".

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Anonymous 07/05/2020 (Sun) 03:34:14 No. 667415 [Reply] [Last]
why did my thread about the myth of degeneracy get nuked????
don't make meta threads on /leftypol/ use the feedback thread or go to the >>>/gulag/ board to complain.
>>667415 First >>667418 Second, its not a myth.

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4th of July Alternatives Anonymous 07/05/2020 (Sun) 02:08:03 No. 667236 [Reply] [Last]
What did my american comrades do instead today of kissing Amerikkkas star spangled ass? I'm listening to a DDR version of the Internationale in my room.
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>>667365 "autistically ideological" accurately describes half this board unfortunately.
>>667420 Your mum is autistically ideological
>>667380 >>667423 >>667420 Kill yourselves neurotypicals
>>667437 your mom is neurotypical
>>667445 sad but true

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Practical Anonymous 07/05/2020 (Sun) 02:20:46 No. 667278 [Reply] [Last]
Lol. I had an inkling you were a bunch of windbags. My mother tells a story of upsetting the Australian communists by suggesting childcare for members at a meeting for theory, so I guess that's a family tradition now.

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"Fascism is worse than Liberalism" Anonymous 07/05/2020 (Sun) 00:53:01 No. 667101 [Reply] [Last]
So, I got into an argument, and not a productive one at that. Some leftists were saying that fascism was "worse" than liberalism and my argument was that that's a pointless point to argue for, because more often than not, liberalism gives birth to fascism, and even exports it to third world countries for economic purposes. They responded by saying that fascism promotes the genocide of half of the world's population, le 10 million, so on and so forth. Was I in the wrong here? Why?
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>>667347 Alright, thanks
>>667347 I do find myself conflating Liberalism and Capitalism quite a lot, even though I understand that Capitalism isn't always liberalism
>>667101 >Was I in the wrong here? Why? Yes, because it’s much easier to organize under liberal conditions than under fascist ones. Obviously liberalism gives rise to fascism, but the entire point of fascism is you crack down on the left in ways that go beyond the limits of liberalism. If liberalism were as effective at preventing revolution then fascism would have no reason to exist.
>>667358 I get that, but from my perspective, the fascist regimes that the US has propped up has been in the third world, the places where most revolutions happen. I feel like liberalism is most reserved for people living in the first world, separated from the fascism that their governments export. If there was a crisis or something, I think that most liberal countries would resort to fascism as quick as possible. The reason why first world countries are so "free" is because they stand atop the pyramid of imperialism, and reap the rewards of countries that they plunder. They can afford to be "free" because the people there have no immediate reason to revolt.
>>667378 Not trying to sound like an unruheist so I want to clarify that by "immediate reason to revolt" I mean that average material conditions are better suited for living comfortable lives and their governments provide a release valve of sorts to let the masses feel like they have control.

Native tribal leaders are calling for the removal of Mount Rushmore Anonymous 07/03/2020 (Fri) 18:29:25 No. 664239 [Reply] [Last]
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/cheyenne-river-sioux-tribe-mount-rushmore-trnd/index.html >The chairman of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe is calling for the removal of the Mount Rushmore National Memorial, arguing that it is carved in an area that is considered sacred land to Natives. >"Nothing stands as a greater reminder to the Great Sioux Nation of a country that cannot keep a promise of treaty then the faces carved into our sacred land on what the United States calls Mount Rushmore," said Harold Frazier, chairman of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe in South Dakota, where the memorial is located. is this removing of statues and memorials a good thing or just radlib and ethnonationalist pseudo activism?
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>>667180 Not anything relevant or helpful it seems
>>667216 Maybe not helpful but it seems pretty relevant right now
>>667061 >it's not as if Britain was going to honour these agreements in the long term. This is just an assumption. The British government did not want to expand west because they didn't want another repeat of Pontiac's war and because they did not want overextend themselves. If anyone was going to break the agreements it would be the colonists, which is exactly what happened in the US war of independence
>>667229 Also in regards to imperialism being an outgrowth of capitalism, this is obviously true, but in Britain's specific case they would have focused on expansion somewhere else with the proclamation line in place instead of doing a British manifest destiny
>>667229 >This is just an assumption. No it isn’t. Remember that Britain retained control of a bigger chunk of North America than the US did. Actually read up on Canada’s own history of westward expansion, displacement and genocide of natives, etc. The subordination of the entire world to capitalism was inevitable.

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Is there a Leftist Gab or Dlive? Anonymous 07/04/2020 (Sat) 10:56:46 No. 665773 [Reply] [Last]
Asking for my sanity
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>>666693 It's what gab was built ontop of. You can host your own instances, there's tons of them The biggest instance is full of nip pedos who got yeeted from twitter
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>>665777 >bunkerchan is the leftist gab tbh Brainlet posting >>665928 It's this. >>666693 It's like Twitter but the source code is free to copypaste so you can host your own instance and don't need to program it yourself, all instances can by default interact with each other. However instance admins will typically block certain instances considered abusive. Gab is actually based off Mastodon code now, they weren't originally but they decided to convert to it. The guys behind Gab in part decided to convert to Mastodon code to try and troll the Mastodon creators and users who tended to be far to the left of Gab creators and users. Guy who programs Mastodon just kinda shrugged and blocked Gab from interacting with the main instance (mastodon.social I think). As well as other variously abusive instances. Most Mastodon instances as far as I know trend leftward. Especially radically leftward. There is a lot of variance between instances. I'm aware of there being instances targeted towards demographics of conservatives/fascists (Gab more or less), liberals/leftists/whatever, TERFs, LGBT-oriented instances, programming-oriented instances, anprim instances (yes I saw one or two of these while perusing), instances for particular languages (If you watch the "federated timeline", as opposed to the instance timeline or people-you-follow feed, on the instance you have an account for, it'll show posts from every single instance not blocked by the instance admin. You'll probably see some Japanese posts sprinkled around because there's Japanese-oriented instances), anarchist instances, etc. etc. There's a lot there. Think of it like Twitter but more Discord-like in that you can make your own server if you like and customize it to however you want it to be. Except there is more freedom in Mastodon than in Discord, minus the fact you actually need to get a hold of the resources to host yourself. It is free/open source software. >>665773 Now as for dlive I don't know, but PeerTube may be worth checking out. As it happens, PeerTube is also built on Mastodon.
>>665773 juche.town
>>665773 Bitwave.tv
>>665773 what the fuck is a gab? whats a fucking dlive?

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Reminder that Hitler was a Socialist Anonymous 07/04/2020 (Sat) 18:53:10 No. 666530 [Reply] [Last]
and like Marx, a fierce critic of Jewish imperialism. If you're not antisemitic, you're not a true Socialist. mod edit: anchored for silly pol bait
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I was also reading Yukio Mishima who said that Hitler truly became Hitler by liquidating the Sturmabteilung, transcending the left-right divide and reveling in power as such. For me it demonstrated Hitler's one true commitment which was ruling class terror. That does not remind me of socialism so much as Joe Biden who liquidated the American left and is now preparing to do the same to the reactionary far right. Likewise, Kamala Harris' work for the repressive apparatus is her ticket of entry that proves her willingness to kill the poor. You could say 2020 is shaping up to be another Springtime for Hitler.
>>666530 So why do right wingers hate socialism?
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>>667439 the left runs on mental illness

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Rules - Moderation Feedback - The Manifesto Anonymous Board volunteer 03/01/2020 (Sun) 15:47:06 No. 314001 [Reply] [Last]
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Why is the moderation thread unpinned?
I request >>29209 be moved to >>>/hobby/
>>670514 Bump for this question. Also are mods even here? I've been reporting spam and nothing is happening.
>>666497 Don't you use that reaction image for such a shite post. You faggots can choke on your filters.
>>670514 >>675666 meta got moved to /gulag/, where it is easier for mods to ignore criticism and suggestions. no users are gonna go to /gulag/, either, therefore it is a win-win for mods and lose-lose for users.

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