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socialist majority in EU parliament Anonymous 09/10/2020 (Thu) 22:55:51 No. 857074 [Reply] [Last]
I am Canadian, and increasingly, we regard the US as a failed project. We are beginning to turn away from the US, and watching them fail feels a lot like a close friend of relative has died or is dying of a terminal disease. Why do Europeans continue with the American economic program of neoliberalism? As far as I can tell, the EU Parliament and EU council has a "Christian Democrat/Conservative" majority. Why is this? Isn't it time to turn the EU red and face eastward and southward, towards the growing economies of Africa, China, and Russia? We are reorienting around the North Pacific, away from the North Atlantic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament
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Kill EU
>>869863 Anon history needs a push. The suffering there will be anyways, there's no way to avoid that sadly. Besides the crushing of the Eu would also mean the end of liberal center left european parties and a huge opening for more radical stuff politically (and in this lies Lbaour's failure, in not understanding that Brexit was something that was to be wholeheartedly supported and giving up to middle class domination of the party and full return to neoliberalism).
>>870113 I also add that while Ml parties situation in Italy is shitty nowhere shit is as bad as in Germany in Europe for communists. (excluding Visegrad cesspools)
>>869980 Make a counter-EU
THE RED LEAF RISES

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Special Forces Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 14:27:50 No. 870073 [Reply] [Last]
Are there any that aren't extreme right? Not even leftist but just support you know basic democratic principles or something?
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>>870369 Against who exactly? The government?
>>870369 Real Gehlen organization vibes
>>870369 >the most recent head of the agency You mean Maaßen?
>>870089 >You'd hope Germany of all places would be trying to screen for this >he doesn't know about post-war Germany and Japan
>>870377 >Against who exactly? The government? against some vague notion of "leftists" who in their mind probably also control the government. this goes as far as killing conservatives for not being anti-immigration enough. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_L%C3%BCbcke

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what even is a commie Anonymous 09/14/2020 (Mon) 17:20:00 No. 867823 [Reply] [Last]
What exactly does it mean to to you when you call yourself a communist?
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>>869736 Is there such thing as commiecel?
>>869740 >commiecel good question, shall I make a thread about it?
>>869495 >2. The inevitability of communism (assuming we survive) >>867876 Hmmm
>>868054 No, I double down on communist "dictatorship" being better than this liberal consumerist degeneracy. It's crucial otherwise it's just empty chit chat, on the same level as complaining about bad weather.
>>869927 What does the hmm mean? Communism is the name of the relation of production that comes after socialism. It is classless and stateless. This is the full definition. The peculiar realities of it will depend on the conditions and we develop those conditions during socialism. What it will entail is merely speculation at this point. We can say it is inevitable because socialism contains contradictions. A big one being that the structure of the socialist civilization is at odds with the small local groups who as socialism progresses will gain more and more self sufficiency and autonomy.

Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 01:31:18 No. 869034 [Reply] [Last]
Some antifa cell got hacked by 4chan, thots?
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>>869083 Oh, well it's good they're being transparent.
>>869034 >Sra >Antifa cell
>>869034 >thots I'd go even stronger and call them cunts
>>869707 thots was a pun, I was asking for thoughts, but saying thots was funnier
Good

/Depression/ /Feels/ /Reals/ Thread Anonymous 08/26/2020 (Wed) 12:55:08 No. 807201 [Reply] [Last]
Before you delete this mods like you deleted the last one, let me state my case for the existence of this thread. 1) It is of MATERIAL BENEFIT to alienated members of the proletariat i.e. the posters of this board, to be able to discuss their mental health issues. 2) Leftypol is unique in that it can provide a place for this with like minded people, who can understand where they are coming from better, as they are also communists. Furthermore, /leftypol/ is unique in that it is anonymous 3) In most of the countries in the which these people live, mental health services are shit 4) Chan posters are prone to poor mental health 5) Improved board mental health will improve quality of board over all. 6) Comrades can help each other along, and also express solidarity. Solidarity will improve board health. Perhaps there won't be so many furious autistic posts if we have an environment of solidarity. 7) At the end of the day, near enough all, if not outright all, of these mental health problems are caused by capitalism and the environment it creates, so the discussion is going to tend to be around capitalism and ways to navigate capitalism. Lock it if you must and it can be a gulag, but plz do not delete.
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>>842784 no, I'm angry at least 30% of my waking time and I still consider myself to be much happier than average.
>>867865 I gave up on that a long time ago. And I'm on a scholarship for this school that covers most of the cost, so I'm just going to wrap up this year and stop there. I just wish I had a few friends and maybe a gf so I don't feel like such a lonely piece of shit constantly.
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>Be me cleaning around fryer at deli >Guy next to me wasnt watching the water going down into the outlet and high volt plug. >It started to smoke and had no time to react >The plug exploded within a foot of my face >Shaken up a bit but no physical problem >Thought I was gonna die in that split second >Weeks later I started to get startled very easily and overreact. >My partner was watching some action movie and a gun going off sent me into a panic. Even on walks stepping on a leaf triggered my new chest tremors >Feel so drained and cant get any compensation cause I didnt report. >I just wanted a job to pay the bills.
>>823641 Yup, you either get depressed or lose all empathy for other humans
>>869971 you have to dissociate to a degree with the amount of shit you see, figuratively and literally. i dread doctors and nurses and hospitals. extra neurotic and anxious individual. people picking and prodding my body is so wrong, dude.

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Opinions on Peter Sloterdijk? Anonymous 09/14/2020 (Mon) 15:51:51 No. 867477 [Reply] [Last]
I know he's considered the more reactionary of the post-modernists but whats your thoughts?
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>>867477 isn't he a neo-kantian reactionary? never really cared to see what we wrote, frankly; it's one of those european discussions involving Badiou and Zizek that frankly just feels like a waste of time
I hate Schlotterdick so god damn much. He's the definition of an utterly opportunistic, pretentious, arrogant, chauvinistic, bourgeois, right-wing academic prick who has never produced anything worthwhile. In public tv he can drivel for hours in pompous elaborate upper-class language without making a point and his books are equally full of shit, yet certain bourgeois "intellectuals" look up to him.
>>868103 >>867593 Calling him pretentious is just lazy, it does not address what he's saying. Like OP I want to know what his philosophical ideas actually are, even if I already know beforehand that I'll disagree. It's strategically retarded to ignore what your enemy is saying with the excuse that he doesn't have an ideology anyway, "he's just pretending". What's his ideology? Why is this man obsessed with spheres so much? Btw, he did write "critique of cynical reason", which afaik is regarded as a great book by leftist academics. But nowadays everyone says spheres are his magnum opus. I have a feeling that he masturbates over prefect and closed self-contained systems, that his utopia is the world itself becoming such a system - "globe" as the ultimate sphere. But this is just a guess, I don't know what I'm talking about.
>>869830 No, I mean, I don't disagree with you that his stuff might be important, I just don't care about it enough to bother. Like I barely manage to read left theory, why the hell would I use my limited concentration with this guy? Someone on a similar milieu that I found quite useful was Byung Chul-Han, which, despite being an heideggerian existentialist/neo-foucaultian, has some interesting ideas to engage with (such as burnout society), and his books are delightfully short. I'm sure some people have dealt with Sloterdijk, and frankly I'll just leave it to them to discuss him.
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>Sloterdijk expanded upon the idea of “planetary co-immunism”, referring to the need to "share the means of protection even with the most distant members of the family of man/woman" when faced with shared threats such as pandemics.

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Civilization and Its Discontents Anonymous 09/14/2020 (Mon) 18:44:50 No. 868082 [Reply] [Last]
>The communists believe that they have found the path to deliverance from our evils. According to them, man is wholly good and is well-disposed to his neighbour; but the institution of private property has corrupted his nature. The ownership of private wealth gives the individual power, and with it the temptation to ill-treat his neighbour; while the man who is excluded from possession is bound to rebel in hostility against his oppressor. If private property were abolished, all wealth held in common, and everyone allowed to share in the enjoyment of it, ill-will and hostility would disappear among men. Since everyone’s needs would be satisfied, no one would have any reason to regard another as his enemy; all would willingly undertake the work that was necessary. I have no concern with any economic criticisms of the communist system; I cannot enquire into whether the abolition of private property is expedient or advantageous.* But I am able to recognize that the psychological premises on which the system is based are an untenable illusion. In abolishing private property we deprive the human love of aggression of one of its instruments, certainly a strong one, though certainly not the strongest; but we have in no way altered the differences in power and influence which are misused by aggressiveness, nor have we altered anything in its nature. Aggressiveness was not created by property. It reigned almost without limit in primitive times, when property was still very scanty, and it already shows itself in the nursery almost before property has given up its primal, anal form; it forms the basis of every relation of affection and love among people (with the single exception, perhaps, of the mother’s relation to her male child). If we do away with personal rights over material wealth, there still remains prerogative in the field of sexual relationships, which is bound to become the source of the strongest dislike and the most violent hostility among men who in other respects are on an equal footing. If we were to remove this factor, too, by allowing complete freedom of sexual life and thus abolishing the family, the germ-cell of civilization, we cannot, it is true, easily foresee what new paths the development of civilization could take; but one thing we can expect, and that is that this indestructible feature of human nature, will follow it there. What could be a counter-argument to this?
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>>869254 why not?
>>869257 How it is gonna be decided then who sleeps with whom? And why the fuck would you want to sleep with people you don't like then? It is retarded just like this whole thread.
>>869258 Civ&Dis was published in 1930. References to communists living at the time are of course about the Leninists in Russia and those sympathetic to them unless explicitly stated otherwise.
>>869252 Yes they fucking did. Stop reading anarchist anthropologists - they intentionally push the "human nature gööd" meme. It's currently estimated that 20% of hunter gatherers died due to violence or accidents and it is well documented that resource scarcity drove them to wars. Here, just one archaeological evidence out of many: >Ten of the 12 skeletons show lesions caused by violence to the parts of the body most commonly involved in cases of violence. These include one where the projectile was still embedded in the side of the skull; two cases of sharp-force trauma to the neck; seven cases of blunt and/or sharp-force trauma to the head; two cases of blunt-force trauma to the knees and one to the ribs. There were also two cases of fractures to the hands, possibly caused while parrying a blow. >There must have at least three types of weapons involved in these murders – projectiles (stoned-tipped as well as sharpened arrows), something similar to a club, and something close to a wooden handle with hafted sharp-stone blades that caused deep cuts. Two individuals have no lesions in the preserved parts of the skeleton, but the position of their hands suggests they may have been bound, including a young woman who was heavily pregnant at the time. https://theconversation.com/finding-a-hunter-gatherer-massacre-scene-that-may-change-history-of-human-warfare-53397
>>868093 you’re misreading him. he’s against abolshing private property in the first place

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Arab/Muslim World Marxists Anonymous 09/02/2020 (Wed) 02:51:03 No. 831445 [Reply] [Last]
Any works by Marxists from the Arab/Muslim World that I should took note of? The Muslim World alongside Africa and Southeast Asia has so little information about it's Marxist movement and writings, at least with SEA we have the Vietnam Anon, Singaporean Anon, the Thai Anon and the Indonesian Anon gives us info in the SEA general.
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>>860362 i'm still lurking here
Islamic communism is bound to fail just like Nazi communism is bound to fail. Both are antisemitic, fascist ideologies that every Marxist by definition must be against. You cannot be a Muslim and a Marxist.
>>863366 The Muslim world is extremely cancerous. You guys first need a secular revolution before you can even discuss communism.
>>869249 They did have secular revolutions though, that was the first wave of decolonization. That's been reversed and has to be restored.
>>863366 >We don't adopt foreign ones. Wahhabism is pretty foreign

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Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 10:02:05 No. 869700 [Reply] [Last]
Now i learned alot I learned that. it makes a difference this was the diving board area and i was one of the guards and they weren't allowed to there was a 3 meter diving area you fell off the board you landed on the dam- darn cement, you see how things have changed, cornpop was a bad Dude! and he ran a bunch of bad boys, the thing back then was you had pomade in your hair, so he was on the diving board without his baby cap and i said "Off the board esther williams" then he got off and said "I'll meet you outside" and his three guys with straight razors, there was a white guy, bill wright, Mouse! the guy who did all of the mechanics, the pool mechanics, he walked up to me and gave me a 6 foot piece of pool chain and said "Go out there" i said why he said just do "You may cut me man but im gonna wrap this chain around your head" so i went out to my car and there and his boys were, you remember the good ol days, banging the straight razors on the curb, i walked up to them and said "I apologize" cornpop said "You apologize" i said "Yes, but not for throwing you out, but for calling you esther williams" he said okay and closed his straight razor
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Sorry for my bad english. Also I’m typing on mobile, if im make any spelling mistakes im sorry. So i was browsing reddit. i did my daily deed by creating my 420th account to downvote EA’s comment about microtransactions (EPIC). and then i saw a hilarious meme about dying in a car crash on r/dankmemes. i decided to try it out. So me, being the typical redditor decided to take my wife and children with me (SPOILER, THIS WAS A MISTAKE). Not with standing, we were in the car and saw a big truck. Now i’m a fan of big trucks, let me tell you, but the driver was clearly an insta normie. We crashed into the truck going 250 mph. My wife was vaporised immediately. The car flipped 69 times (nice). Cum, everywhere. My cock and balls, tortured. My reddit gold, gone. r/wooosh. now you might have noticed the truck driver has uploaded this accident on r/watchpeopledie after committing 4 counts of vehicular manslaughter. This guy is a repeat offender when it comes to reposting. I could name several instances in which he reposted in r/blursedimages and r/aww. Typically he reigns in 20% karma gains as compared to the original posts. This is outrageous. But what is more outrageous is this man, this normie decides to repost on to instagram! Unforgivable! Onto his instagram account, i have noticed several posts causing me to believe he is a boomer! Not just this, but a simp! He supports the orange man and kills children! To relieve my stress after this scarring incident, I decided to donate my life savings to pokemane. Now this bitch, didn't even say my name! I cant believe this! And then, to top it all off, after uploading my cat to r/chonkers HE DIES! It was right after his 12th meal of the day, so at least he died happily. Could it be the cat food? Has anyone else experienced this? After my cat dying i asked my crush out and she said no! My wifes boyfriend called me a cuck and insulted my neckbeard. I was sad. I covered my tears with my fedora. “M’lady”, i whispered, “please forgive me, i have failed you”. After this i went onto r/pewdiepiesubmissions to defend a woman being bullied by evil men. They called me a simp, but i knew that i was actually a protector of the female gender from the patriarchy! TLDR: Keanu chungus updoot raid reddit gold platinum UWU wholesome what are your greatest cumshots OWO r/whoosh r/pewdiepiesubmissions r/incel r/funny r/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA r/askreddit r/incel r/funny r/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA r/askreddit Edit 1: Thank you for the gold, kind stranger! Edit 2: WOW! My first platinum? Incredible! Edit 3: 69 thousand updoots? We did it reddit! Edit 4: Keanu would be proud! Thank you! Edit 5: WOW! 100 thousand upvotes! I came!!!! Edit 6: Incredible! The amount of upvotes I have is almost as many murders as I have committed in Syria! Update 1: I am in jail due to my war crimes in Syria. AMA
Goshdarn I love Roughneck Joe
Listen Slap, everyone wants to be the top apple, you know, like in the ah, the apple jack barrel you would get in late summer by the farm, but the thing... the thing is Mack, that if you wanna be the Santa Claus you gotta work like an elf

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Anonymous 08/21/2020 (Fri) 19:35:13 No. 792262 [Reply] [Last]
Don't know how to feel about the CPUSA. Some of their members online seem to have good politics, but the party rag had that article basically pushing a vote for Biden and glorifying Sanders. CPUSA rank and file online will say "that is just an article by one person, it doesn't represent how everyone in the party thinks" but it is a featured article on their website. It seems clear that in some fashion this is represented as the party's line on Biden. I'm just looking at the field of options and it seems like your big ones are PSL, DSA, CPUSA, or the Greens. PSL and Greens are actually running candidates, while CPUSA and DSA aren't. While obviously you aren't going to vote communism into reality, it is silly to abstain from fielding even local candidates, let alone national ones in order to simply promote communism from political office. But the Greens and DSA are much more blatantly reformist. PSL seems OK, but in my experience also rather insular and sectarian.
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I imagine the old-timers who make up the Central Committee of the CPUSA is probably jumping for joy that there are young people who actually care enough to write them angry letters about People's World articles not being communist enough. "Comrades, another nastygram has just arrived! They want us to edit a paragraph on the website!"
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>>865408 >>857536 >>811693 CPUSA anons I think you'll find these posts in /prc/ interesting: >>866687 >>866717 >>866785 >>867534 There's mention of the CPUSA, PSL, and the situation for US socialists in general. Some of it's a little funny, some of it nice.
>>865560 I'm sure at least some of them are.
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>>865560 >>869477 kek, now that you frame it that way..
>>800364 >The suffering they undergo is material Yes, it is caused by capitalism. All of idpol does this. It takes a thing that occurs due to the peculiarities of capitalism and instead of focusing on defeating capitalism it tries to improve capitalism instead. Every single idpol issue which is predicated on real circumstances of increased suffering would have that suffering vanish under socialism. With out capitalisms economic mechanisms there is no way for any of the cultural devices to manifest themselves because capitalist society vanishes when capitalism does.

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