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The Read "X" Meme Anonymous 09/17/2020 (Thu) 19:23:51 No. 876494 [Reply] [Last]
This is the most pathetic shit to me. If you can't express one idea from X in your own words, why would I be inclined to read X or to believe that you actually read X? Does anyone really believe they'll be able to build a mass movement by repeating "google X" and "read Y" ad-nauseum?
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>>876655 Also do people expect someone in the modern age to drop everything read something in a week or two and comeback to continue the discussion.? That's just very impractical.
>>876812 lol, what point are you even trying to make? look, the other guy can lie too! "the revolution requires that we establish a dictatorship of the proletariat." "why?" "read lenin." "what? bullshit, he never said that, or if he did, he was wrong." "you've clearly never read lenin." the fact that leftists should be grounding their analyses on the theoretical frameworks laid down by marx and lenin (hence, they should have actually *read* those people) has basically nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that people... GASP! can lie.
>>876823 AW. Antonio Wolf. He's posted here fairly recently.
>>876494 watch john oliver
>>876494 Read Plato

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MLs, what is your response to this video? Anonymous 09/06/2020 (Sun) 19:40:22 No. 845605 [Reply] [Last]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhkXpdD8aVw In this video, he criticizes authoritarian socialism for advocating means which are ineffective in establishing communist ends. He thinks that the system created in the USSR and so on was merely replacing one hierarchy with another, however unlike anti-communists he do not believe it follows from this that hierarchy is somehow inevitable or written into our genetics, and that hierarchy is, however, written into the state.
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Communism ain't shit you half ass, you gotta be completely serious about, and not have organizers and leaders that are obsessed with statue spam of themselves. No class, no money. State is a different is a different story, but make sure it's own by the people until you can get a transhuman/posthuman direct democracy communist society
>>877086 NTA, but damn, you’re truly one of the worst, most infantile posters I’ve seen here.
>>845605 What a bad hit ratio, throw range and discipline! The first 2-3 was just fine. A miracle that someone didn't burn them all in the process.
>>845825 is he crying in that pic?
>>877086 this is really bad. You dismiss all of these achievements so easily and in such a glib way, its disgusting. What the fuck has Anarchism ever done, for, well anyone? Did Anarchism give hunderds of millions of people guaranteed healhcare?. Did it give 100s of millions of women equality in daily life with men? did Anarchism support anti-colonial movements to the point where those nazi and capitalist assholes got sleepless nights just thinking about them? Anarchism is a joke, motherfucker, you attack MLs for failing in the end despite many good things, but look at Anarchism, it is literally nothing but failure. >not abolishing money they wanted to, but turns out shit is hard. They felt like they still needed money to plan the economy. >leader worhsip they started out in countries with no education, no critical thinking, no liberal cultural traditions. They actually improved political rights compared to what people had before. Yes the leader worship got really bad at times but what do you expect. If you cant stand things going badly sometimes go back to your Anarchist bookstore or whatever, i bet its nice and cozy in there.

Theorylet question Anonymous 09/17/2020 (Thu) 00:04:36 No. 874419 [Reply] [Last]
Hello anons, as of now I was reading "Socialism or Extinction" by Ted Reese and i can't comprehend this bit here: >As we have seen,when labour-saving technology reduces total socially necessary labour time, there is a relative fall in the value contained in the total value of commodities, ie less value per commodity, despite the fact that the rate of exploitation has increased,ie that each worker is now giving the capitalist more surplus labour time and therefore producing more surplus value relative to their necessary labour. <The total automation of productive labour would therefore make commodities worthless. How does he reach this conclusion? I mean its clear that rising productivity tends to cheapen commodities more and more but isn't there a lower bound in that (likely given by reproduction costs of raw material+electric power+machinery usage)? Also if commodities will become worthless isn't communism inevitable?
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>>875508 good tempo keep it up
Going on reading Ted Reese's book, examining the Fed behaviour he states: >The Fed needs to push the interest rate lower not only to incentivise the borrowing of cheap capital but also so that the government can afford to service its debt – higher interest rates increase the debt-to-GDP ratio. But because doing this is achieved by pumping more and more recycled debt into the economy, the value of the dollar will continue to overinflate, pushing up the debt anyway and disincentivising buyers of the currency, who will see that the tax base needed to pay back debt is shrinking even further.They will dump their worthless debt and instead invest in hard assets, the prices of which will inflate. When the interest rate hits zero and can go no lower, the rate will have to rise to tackle the inflation of hard assets and to incentivise government bondholders not to dump their bonds. But as interest rates go up,the debt-to-GDP will rise, the government won't be able to repay its debt and currency will lose its value.The Fed will have to purchase all the dumped bonds,which will send the national debt soaring ever-higher. <Whatever central banks do, countries are going todefault.Hyperinflation is surely imminent. And this time my questions are: 1) Isn't what he's stating in the first sentence the opposite of what actually happens? 2)How could Fed push interests lower by pumping more debt into the economy? 3) Also how could the dollar get "over inflated" when the fucking Central Bank is pumping money into the market? It really seems to me that the first part of this paragraph is seriously fucked up, but if some anon could clarify me on this it would be GOLDEN.
>>877586 1) That’s what the fed does though all the time, what do you mean? 2) Low interest rates mean people borrow more money. By putting more debt into the economy this way and allowing people easier access to cheaper loans the amount of debt in the economy increases and the ‘price’ of currency goes down because there is now more currency in circulation to buy stuff with. This is demand pull inflation. 3) Too much of a commodity makes the commodity price go down, and money is only a commodity used to compare the prices of other commodities.
>>874590 >You can only get profit by underpaying labor Partially true, all profits come from underpaid labor, but profit are realized in the market by money circulation. Capitalists do not realize the profit when they underpay wages.
>>877694 When the Feds pumps out debt it takes money in exchange thereby reducing total money supply and making the dollar appreciate, with bonds that rise in interest rates due to their fall in price. At the beginning of that part Ted Reese seems to argue literally the opposite though and it makes no sense to me. About point 3) I 100% agree with you so how can something be "overinflated" if the market is flooded with it? Or is him using this term as in "With a value too high compared to what really should be" in which case that part sounds right.

Technical intelligensia Anonymous 09/17/2020 (Thu) 16:53:36 No. 876076 [Reply] [Last]
If according to Stalin the Technical Intelligensia are just apolitical potatoes who serve the ruling class of society at any time, and the masses make history, then why should anyone here do jack shit to advance the revolution, considering we are almost all college educated engineers/scientists etc? Why shouldn't we all just wait for the revolution since our class is incapable of being the revolutionary subject anyway, unless you're taking the Paul Mason post-capitalist line of muh revolutionary left accelerationist tech workers.
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>>876153 I'm too stoopid to understand this
>>876362 they will all become republicans by 40
>>876412 Probably not honestly, a lot of us engineers are on precarious grounds because many of our jobs are being outsourced as well. life is better for us to be sure and many are liberal / libertarian / fascoid but capital comes for us too eventually.
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>>876076 Yo, I think this guy is calling us stupid. HE DISSING THE PROLES
>>876435 Oh no, you may only be able to get C-Class at most, terrible.

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Anonymous 09/14/2020 (Mon) 11:43:13 No. 867029 [Reply] [Last]
If the eastern bloc was still around, would you defect? Which country in that case? DDR for me.
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>>868770 your father's a bit of a liar m8
>>868770 Are you still chugging on your daddy's tiddies? Second hand info like this is the most unreliable shit ever. My dad is a conservatard who told me that commie blocks were created because it was easier to spy on people in such crammed up spaces. I believed that shit up until I was like 20, dude. Meanwhile, in reality, commieblocks pulled out millions out of utter destitution and rural backwardness, gave people central heating, electricity, sewage system, bathrooms, refrigerators, etc. for the first time. These people experienced fucking time travel moving from pic1 to pic2.
>>867029 That depends. Is Albania still part of the eastern block? If so then yes
Probably Romania, hear it was the best out of all, with the highest living standards and pretty open and not as censorship ridden as the rest.
>>877250 >hear it was the best out of all, with the highest living standards and pretty open and not as censorship ridden as the rest. ...do you mean hungary? they were the "happiest barrack" you are describing; romania was the polar fucking opposite lol

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Leftists who defend small business owners Anonymous 09/12/2020 (Sat) 13:54:55 No. 861464 [Reply] [Last]
Why? Under current capitalism they will forever be cucked by the bourgeoise proper Under socialism they will cease to exist Only mutualism may be good for them but that's a total meme movement even most anarkids laugh at
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>>861645 THE ONLY COMMUNIST COUNTRY WAS ALBANIA. ALL HAIL ENVER HOXHA. DOWN WITH ALL THE REVISIONISTS. LENIN AND MADURO ALL REVISIONISTS REVISIONISTS REVISIONISTS REVISIONISTS REVISIONISTS REVISIONISTS REVISIONISTS REVISIONISTS REVISIONISTS REVISIONISTS REVISIONISTS

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>>875037 >anti-civilization anprim schizo If anything it was the realization that only socialism can save us from the cyberpunk future to some Star Trek utopia that convinced/intrigued me
>>861464 >Why? Under current capitalism they will forever be cucked by the bourgeoise proper Under socialism they will cease to exist Only mutualism may be good for them but that's a total meme movement even most anarkids laugh at "We had to burn down the store to save it."
>>861590 Cuba is a place where all times are present at the same time. Reminds me of Tales from the Xenozoic age. Just add some dinosaurs to Cuba and I'm ready to go.
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News 9/17/20 News Anon 3.0 09/17/2020 (Thu) 18:38:59 No. 876327 [Reply] [Last]
French Unions Protest Against Macron's Austerity Policies The General Confederation of Workers (CGT), the "United, Solidarity, Democratic" (SUD) movement, the National Union of Students of France (UNEF), and the Unitary Trade Union Federation (FSU) accused the Macron administration of embracing a purely "accounting view" of public affairs. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/French-Unions-Protest-Against-Macrons-Austerity-Policies-20200917-0006.html NPA leader in Bohol surrenders A member and leader of rebel-communist groups based in Bohol surrendered before police officials last September 2, 2020.The Police Regional Office in Central Visayas (PRO – 7), in a press release issued on Wednesday, September 16, 2020, identified the surrenderee as Joseph Gulle Galagar. https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/340395/npa-leader-in-bohol-surrenders CPI Maoist Launch Anti Government Poster Campaign In West Singhbhum District The CPI (Maoist) launched a poster-campaign against the administration at Chaibasa marketplace and township in West Singhbhum district on the intervening night of Tuesday and Wednesday. https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-war/cpi-maoist-launch-anti-government-poster-campaign-in-west-singhbhum-district/ International Brigades descendants to be offered Spanish citizenship DESCENDANTS of International Brigades volunteers who fought against fascism in the Spanish civil war are set to be offered Spanish citizenship.The offer is part of a draft Bill that aims to correct the remaining legacy of the dictatorship of General Francisco Franco. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/international-brigades-descendants-be-offered-spanish-citizenship ‘527 years of humiliation’: Indigenous activists topple statue of ‘genocidal’ 16-century conquistador in Colombia

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>>877360 Based. I hope this serves as a wake up call and makes MAS more radical.
>>877360 I mean based but what if the right does unite? Maybe the liberals know camacho is too much of an autist and wont vote for him
>>877360 there's no way they won't get couped again, not after all the shit the fascists already did. MAS better arm workers or get some huge protests or they're fucked
>>876327 >International Brigades descendants to be offered Spanish citizenship Shit, dude. I have two great-grandparents who were illegal communists in Horthy's Hungary and are rather likely to have had participated in the brigade. Now I'll have to check, lol.
>>876475 I enjoy that the third leaked document in the list is about avoiding leaks. Glad to see them get fucked like this though.

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/lat/ Latin America general Anonymous 09/18/2020 (Fri) 08:14:47 No. 878254 [Reply] [Last]
There isn't one yet so here we go. All things lat - Venezuela, Bolivia, Brasil. Locked: We already have this thread, check the catalog before posting a duplicate >>840293
Edited last time by CL_anon on 09/18/2020 (Fri) 20:07:02.
>>878254 Ill start >Bolivia's self-declared President Jeanine Añez has withdrawn her candidacy following poor approval ratings for her regime. She has not endorsed another candidate, but says that if the pro-coup right does not unite, then 'Morales returns' good or bad? It seems the Anez admin is extremely unpopular, are there others that could seriously challenge MESA? Will there be a rigged election?
>>878254 we have this already >>840293

Krushchev General Anonymous 09/18/2020 (Fri) 00:41:40 No. 877349 [Reply] [Last]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K4oeE07HE8 Why do tankies hate him? >led the Soviet Union during the peak of its power >Pedos? in my Politburo? *cocks Tokarev* >The space race WOULD NOT have happened without him (Stalin wouldn't have signed off on that shit) >legitimately wanted to make the Soviet Union a less murdery place. >Dropped monthly DISS tracks at the UN, stood up for Congo when no one else would >greenlit a giant flying boat that could go 300 mph and remain undetectable by radar
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>>877528 >>877528 Nice meme friendo! Now Please show me where the Soviet Union went because I can’t seem to find it anymore :(
>>877971 >heh should have just kept the name like the PRC did
>>877349 didn't we have this thread a week ago?
>>878012 We did, this shit of identical threads popping up immediately after a thread gets bumped off the catalog (or sometimes not even until then) is either a glowie op or some other attempt at forum sliding
>>877581 the gay old party sure does

Imagine still being a ML in 2020. Anonymous 09/14/2020 (Mon) 06:30:22 No. 866681 [Reply] [Last]
Why aren't you a post-post-ironic crypto-accelerationist anti-dialectical post-Marx democratic-cybernetic Wolffist-Cockshottist?
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Dickblast wrote something about how gay people are a bunch of bourgeois types. Yeah maybe in Scotland but he should come hang out with me at a drag show in Galveston, Texas and that'll set him right. Good music too. https://youtu.be/kqyUf19c_7Y
That's revisionism, the only true Marxist philosophical development of scientific socialism is Marxism-Leninism-Maoism-Posadist-Naztrot-Hoxhaist Anarcho-Posadist Luciferian Thought with post-Zizekian neo-Heideggerian crypto-Deleuzean Zerzanian synthesis Tiqqun-Foucaultian Theory of post-structuralism neo-autonomist proto-analytical characteristics
Imagine being a revisionist in 2020
everyone in this thread....your memes are cringe
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