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Why are leftists so obsessed with ecofascism Anonymous 09/14/2020 (Mon) 04:01:54 No. 866443 [Reply] [Last]
Seems like anyone who doesn't think that 10 billion people can live a current day first world lifestyle is called an ecofascist chud who wants to genocide the entire global south to save the trees. I get that corporations and state entities like militaries contribute the most to climate change and consequently they should receive the most attention, but we also have to realize that a large part is also driven by personal consumption and we have to change our lifestyles at some point, probably in an uncomfortable direction, if things are to get better.
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>>873793 >China has no intention of capping, much less reducing its carbon footprint any time soon. I'm not sure that's true. Developing productive forces in urban centers helps reduce carbon output long-term, and by doing so, China's already predicted to plateau in emissions earlier than what they had pledged at the Paris accord. https://www.carbonbrief.org/chinas-emissions-could-peak-10-years-earlier-than-paris-climate-pledge >Air and water pollution are pretty horrific too. I agree. On that front, they are unfortunately still pretty bad. Their overfishing practices are awful as well. > The growth in China's carbon footprint and the environmental impact of that much industry is basically offsetting anything the rest of the world is doing. My point, though, is that with the rise of globalism, China is now the factory of the world and manufactures goods for everyone. Many of the countries that benefit from China's exports consume more C02 per-capita than China itself, meaning China's carbon footprint is in large part the rest of the world's doing, though by no means all of it. Anyways, I gotta go get some sleep. Hope you have a good one, anon.
Bruh, what stupid ass books are they reading to have such a spooked perspective on humanity? https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/iu1s7h/californias_desert_fauna_will_never_recover_fire/g5j85xl/
>>875295 Based sehrovoloccip. Post screencaps plox lmao
>>873793 Also, The Tree Gorges Dam that is a environmental disaster in itself and a huge natural disaster and military liability. It is simply control the nature-confucianism on steroids. Don't recall the exact emperor. But they had a way to not control Yangtse by having these huge plains it could flood. It followed a daoist approach.
>>874043 Even if Chinese manufacturing and emissions cap out at some point in the next 30 years, it'll just move somewhere else. As long as the population grows the environmental pressure increases. Asia, the US and EU can currently handle demand for thing but we're looking at at least another 2bn people before population starts to stabalise. Ecofash is basically just a cope at this point. There's no going back.

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Russell "Texas" Bentley Anonymous 09/14/2020 (Mon) 20:54:24 No. 868447 [Reply] [Last]
He is blogger who is a veteran of the war in Donbass. Anybody follow him?
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>>868497 >>868521 >>868828 >>868962 >>868976 >No real arguments with proof The absolute state of /leftypol/
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>>868483 More like Drum n' Bass yeah? >>868521 >a working class uprising against literal Neo-Nazi death squads Idealist. All gommies at Drum n' Bass got suicided early on and now it's purely reactionary bastion of a bunch of oligarchs which fights against another reactionary bastion of another bunch of oligarchs. Do note that Ukraine lost its coal mines in the process and since then have to buy more oil from RF instead.
Why is the Donbass flag based on the Confederate one? Very cringe
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>>879572 Why wouldn't it be? Stalin was born and raised in Georgia. Yeehaw.
>>879572 They’re both based off the cross of st. Andrew.

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Shit getting real in Colombia? Anonymous 09/10/2020 (Thu) 20:18:57 No. 856698 [Reply] [Last]
Seems that protests in Colombia against the massacres of police/paramilitary are flaring up, and seems that in Bogotà there was a massacre with 8 dead at the hands of the police. Shit seems getting real but at the same time i can't find good sources about it, so i'm opening a thread for everybody to chip in and add info.
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>>866855 i was in a rural area last year, in a more touristy area it already felt very isolated and like you were on your own. there isn't a deliberate libertarianism in those places, it just springs up spontaneously because the state ignores them. if you pay your due to the local gangs and dont do anything that gets attention it's anarchy. that was the more developed area with rich foreigners and tourist destinations, with land plots valued in the millions of usd. i imagine in actual isolated rural areas it's even more extreme.
>>871583 Colombia is like Ancap but without the NAP
>>879553 So like Ancap
>>866312 >blood diamonds >blood cocaine I completely understand and sympathize with third-worldists.

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Anonymous 06/28/2020 (Sun) 20:19:56 No. 648938 [Reply] [Last]
Edited last time by krates on 08/27/2020 (Thu) 00:59:07.
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>>850984 Please post on >>>/anime/, it needs life
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Bump for other boards!
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>>860619 It's >>>/dead/, Jim!

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Redpill me on the Khmer Rouge Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 03:45:47 No. 869227 [Reply] [Last]
>moneyless >classless >semi-stateless >agrarian >supported by China >ultranationalism >anti-imperialist >democracy btfo >liberalism btfo What's not to love about it? Why did it failed?
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>>869227 It was a utopian project, one which completely disregarded historical materialism and instead attempted to immediately install communism. Needless to say, the means to create such an absurd society involved horrific acts against human dignity, and it still failed pretty miserably. Plus, it was supported by the CIA against actual ML states like Laos and Cambodia, and was utterly harmful to socialism in Indochina as a whole. In fact, if you look at the American government's coverage of Pol Pot, they repeatedly attempted to undermine the mass-murder and lack of legitimacy in order to preserve their ally in fighting Southeast Asian socialism; only after the Khmer Rouge was no longer useful did the American government move to fully condemn them, and opportunistically portray them as "a failure of communism". Overall, it's the perfect example of why utopian socialism fails every time, and why third-campism and ultra-leftism always plays into the hands of porkie.
>>869266 Bro, I'm unironically a Dengoid, and even I think it was fucking stupid for the PRC to support the Khmer Rouge. Supporting the Khmer Rouge allowed the US plunge its tentacles deeper into Indochina, defend the mass-murderous and blatantly revisionist policies of that government, undermine the genuinely ML Vietnam and Laos, and ultimately amounted to nothing as Vietnam and Laos were thankfully able to triumph over the Khmer Rouge. At the very least, the modern PRC has seemed to have learned its lesson, with growing friendship towards AES nations like Laos and Cuba, although I hope that Vietnam and the PRC are able to sort out their particular regional conflicts in favor of broader socialist unity.
Stop shilling for this despotic shit hole. No one in the communist movement considers this anything more than a result of United states disenfranchisement of poor Vietnamese . Itself the result of policies instituted by Richard Nixon. The Cambodian communist party was communist in name and nothing more. Fuck off.
>>869227 socialism/communism takes time speeding up shit is why you get no food and shite
>>879683 >communist in name and nothing more

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Does anyone else just see....decay...everywhere now??? Anonymous 09/18/2020 (Fri) 11:23:11 No. 878529 [Reply] [Last]
I don't know why, but I saw glimpses of it before all this, just walking around certain neighborhoods, walking in some towns. But now I just see decay everywhere. Not just one specific form, but decay in every sense. It truly looks like this society is in decline, I live in Brooklyn and pretty much everywhere in the whole city looks like it's slowly rotting away, the people look more and more lifeless, I think the California smoke reached our skies so lately everyday is a bit hazy if not dull and grey. The parts of the city not left to obviously rot away just look gaudy and tacky now, as though constructed by the most inept and flashy sculptors imaginable. The parks have lately been allowed to grow wild, that was interesting to look at. Honestly this whiplash is crazy, it's as though when COVID began I put on nightmare goggles and I can't take them off, anyone else experiencing this?
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Where I live we now have basically homeless encampments under this bridge in town. We’ve never had that before. If like, a bridge over a stream in a park gets broken, it doesn’t get fixed for months. Our track and trace system is a failure, we can’t even test enough people to meet demand. It takes days to get a covid test here, people are being asked to travel hundreds of miles to get a test. Across the pond in burgerland I see orange skies and endless riots. Below that, the reactionary dictatorships and staunch revolutionaries of Latin America continue to grind out their continental civil war against themselves and against the US. The Middle East is a fucking wasteland. Near enough every country some variety of warzone, from Palestine all the way to Kashmir. When you get to Kashmir, India, you get to a country doing pogroms on its Muslim population. Where to even begin with Africa, the north in the same state at the Middle East, the sub Saharan a post colonial mess, in debt to the US, Europe or the Chinese respectively, very little infrastructure has ever really existed there to decay,
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>>878529 No, but I live in an industrious midwest town. We're just doing our thing. The governor is the president and she's doing well-enough for a liberal. I see it on the internet, but it doesn't seem like America. Some parts have already mentally jettisoned others. You guys are just on your own, I guess. We could always use people willing to swing an axe.
>>878581 It's not just Brooklyn. I live in a nowhere town and these places are fucking collapsing. The only reason my area specifically hasn't just folded in on itself is because walmart moved into town and we still have a production component of our area in the form of a papermill. This two places alone make up at least half of the employment in my town. All smaller outlying towns are desolate and have nothing there employment wise all the people COMMUTE hours on end to work in the town I live. And to top it all off, everywhere, Walmart included never give anyone over 30-32 hours typically less than 30. Most places either pay the min wage (7.25) or pay under the minwage of the town over (I live in a border town) which is WA because washington isn't fucking totally inept and rose the min wage to 13.00 per hour and in any case you still never get 40 hours. Oh and we produce bullets too, those are the only places that give full employment at 40 hours over min wage at 13. The bullet factory and paper mill. It's fucking insane. There is one other place that you can get full employment, but, it's a gas station and you HAVE to work graveyards and basically kill yourself to get 40hours and make a living wage. And it's like this EVERYWHERE; except most places are WORSE because MOST places, E.G the rust belt have lost all of their manufacturing and production jobs. Everyone is on drugs, namely, meth. This country is fucked.
>>879523 >walmart moved into town Curious. I'm the optimistic burger above you, and that is something conspicuous in its absence; We never got a fucking Wal-Mart. Take from that what you will.
>>879529 I mean there's other factors like population density and the size of your reserve army of labor vs your actually employed working class. if you live in a town of 1,000 people then things aren't going to be so bad because most people are going to be able to find employment as the actual number of people who need to work to survive; e.g not children, babies, elderly people on SS, etc, will make up a significant portion of the population. There's a shit load of reasons why your town could be doing better off, but, I am pretty much certain that is the exception to the rule. Also, make no mistake about it, just because a monoply like Walmart hasn't moved into town (yet) doesn't mean things are any less despotic. Even if you have 5 or 6 small businesses all competing and fulfilling the same services, essentially, that Walmart does it doesn't change the fact that there is an underlying level of exploitation taking place. Infact, small businesses are typically more exploitative than Walmart and the like on their working people as Walmart can afford to absorb the costs of wage hikes and growing working class pressure on the bourgeois class over all.

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CAPITALISM HATE THREAD Anonymous 09/14/2020 (Mon) 16:27:51 No. 867590 [Reply] [Last]
Retard moments in capitalism >be porky >mass produce shitty consumer culture full of shit nobody needs >make television based on comedy and low culture >make radio nothing but shitty music broadcasts and regurgitation of the news >make news infected with idpol bickering and shit flinging >put corporations in power of practically all institutions, appealing only to the masses >pucker up the internet's ugly rear end with advertisment and mass-produced content and strip away all forms of creativity >make music either some shitty synth or unintelligible gibberish from some gutter shit gurgling retard on soundcloud >shit up all forms of social media with idpol and massive retardedness >make television programs so dumbed down and advertiser friendly that people hate it >make all culture its sole purpose to make the masses passive and obedient to you by actively destroying it with your troglodyte faggotry >infect it all with sameness and make it the most faceless thing on the face of the earth <WAAAAH CULTURAL MARXISTS ARE DESTROYING THE WEST WAAAAAH

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>>867590 What they say about liberals projecting holds true, doesn't it? They call it "cultural Marxism" but it's pure capitalist retardation.
>>867590 Adorno is really good on this. Of course in typical fashion rightoids have discarded him without realizing what he has to say. Instead they fall for the "cultural Marxism" crap.
>>867712 >implying that fascists will take anything seriously
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>be a fascist >destined to lose because you didn't nationalize your shit >strasser debunked the concept of national social democracy by advocating for basically national de leonist guild socialism >hitler was the best u guise >he may or may not have killed millions of impoverished people, mostly white >you're a fascist so all the people who may or may not have died in the camps were just jews >forget the poles, the slavs, the gypsies, the ideological opponents of german descent >he releases a literal rothschild from imprisonment because the german bourgeoisie pressured him to >germans use private companies as bomb shelters because allies won't bomb them >a literal demonstration of disloyalty >eventually run out of funding so you make people give their gold and silver jewelry to the banks to fund the war effort >economy eventually fails and collapses because it requires the military industrial complex to function but the war btfos it <hitler was a socialist but not a marxist type socialist and that's why he's awesome <germany didn't reject capitalism though because that would have made people starve lol <anyway hitler was the good guy and thats why the jewish capitalists funded the jewish bolsheviks to destroy germany
>>867590 >Retard moments in banging your head against a wall Woah man, I don't even know where I can start. Bump for the pasta though

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grifting the right Anonymous 09/17/2020 (Thu) 16:21:50 No. 876005 [Reply] [Last]
Why is the right so easy to grift? esp. the boomers? Are they all just a bunch of gullible rubes?
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>>878872 >NOOOOO! TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL, I DIDN'T GET GOT FUCK YOU LEFTIST CUCKS FOR BEING TOTALLY RIGHT! >T. Bernie 2020 weekly donor I'm enjoying the SEĒTHE
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Wasn't Bannon literally a Warcraft gold trading ringleader in China once? Gotta grant it to him, he has a natural talent to fleece retards.
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>>879415 yeah, https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/18/steve-bannon-learned-harness-troll-army-world-warcraft/489713001/ Playing WoW was also how he realized that there was a huge untapped base of turbo-reactionary gamers >Even though the business plan was a flop, Bannon became intrigued by the game's online community dynamics. In describing gamers, Bannon said, "These guys, these rootless white males, had monster power. ... It was the pre-reddit. It's the same guys on (one of a trio of online message boards owned by IGE) Thottbot who were [later] on reddit" and other online message boards where the alt-right flourished, Bannon said. >Green postulates that Bannon's time at IGE was "one that introduced him to a hidden world, burrowed deep into his psyche, and provided a kind of conceptual framework that he would later draw on to build up the audience for Breitbart News, and then to help marshal the online armies of trolls and activists that overran national politicians and helped give rise to Donald Trump," Green writes. >After taking over in 2012 at the Breitbart News Network — it was founded five years earlier by Andrew Breitbart, who died in 2012 — Bannon recruited Milo Yiannopoulos to handle technology coverage.
>>879434 Man, what one could do if one simply lacked morals

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Anonymous 09/13/2020 (Sun) 15:29:11 No. 864706 [Reply] [Last]
This is Adolf Hitler. Unrequited Jew lover. High school drop out. Art school reject. Alleged Monorchist. Repressed homosexual. Leader of the Aryan man. Say something nice about him.
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>>867474 They probably would have for one week, after that it´s prison, Hitler was popping Methamphetamine pills like candy. If he lived he would´ve peeled all the flesh from his face and arms from withdrawal. Best case scenario Soviets put him in prison and record his rants and in his old age he acts and talks like Dan Quinn.
his jew hatred was justified.
>>867582 literally idpol
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>>864706 Hey hitler Im your wife new boyfriend tyrone Is eva in the house?
>>866340 Imagine them looking at this right now. >>867474 >He was paranoid the Soviets were going to put him in a cage and parade him around the streets. How cute, a man is afraid of his wish turning not on his opponent Stalin but on himself.

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Anonymous 09/15/2020 (Tue) 19:40:35 No. 871010 [Reply] [Last]
Are Maoist dialectics different from Hegelian dialectics?
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>>874989 >Reunion: Mao left it in God’s hands
>>874707 Based
>dialectics hell of a ghost story anon
>>874707 based and gorbipilled
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