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Anonymous 07/07/2020 (Tue) 00:48:52 No. 671690 [Reply] [Last]
Give me literature recommendations for Anarcho-Communism.
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>>671690 Berkmann's introduction. Very surface level yet comprehensive
Emma Goldman t. an ML.
>>671882 Yeah, read the fucker who shitted on Makhno for not being Perfect (tm) anarchist like him!

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Basic Arguments for socialism and against capitalism Anonymous 07/06/2020 (Mon) 16:24:14 No. 670681 [Reply] [Last]
Aight so argument's for socialism and against capitalism? Like which arguments are the best and in what context and so on. Also discord retards are very annoying and currently trying to explain socialism, how it would work and why we need it and why capitalism should be abolished. Help me out guys
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>>670681 what do you want a list of talking points ?
>>670681 The workers produce commodities, and work the means of production, so they should control these as they work it, just as how a citizen should have a say in politics, workers ought to have a say in the economy. This was the line of reasoning that led me to socialism, albeit watered down reformist.
>>671099 yes please

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Commodities and commodity production Anonymous 07/06/2020 (Mon) 23:55:03 No. 671606 [Reply] [Last]
Can someone explain these concepts to me? Is a commodity simply "something that satisfies a human want" as countless people seem to want me to believe, and is a commodity by nature produced for exchange? In critique of the gotha program, Marx talks about commodities only in reference to capitalism, but when talking about communist society refers to them as means of consumption.
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Also btw because of this weird dynamic, capitalism is prone to crises for various reasons -- runaway debt bubbles and so forth -- and a declining rate of profit for another set of complicated reasons (ever-more-efficient means allows you to produce more with less, even though labor creates the original value), which is the basis for capitalist crisis, and results in various nasty things happening like big giant wars and imperialists spreading out find new sources of cheap labor -- to sustain their profits -- and increasing the exploitation of workers so they work harder and longer for less pay.
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>>671638 That's a good concise explanation. Saved.
>>671606 a commodity is any item produced for sale, whether it be dildos, porn, crack cocaine or catgirl sex dolls
A commodity has two characteristics. The first charactaristic is its use as a thing. It satisfies a human need or want, directly as a consumer product, or indirectly as a production ingredient for consumer products. This charactaristic is necessary but not sufficient. There were useful things before there were commodities. The second charactaristic is its worth in the market system. In particular, commodities exist for this purpose AS MUCH AS for their usefulness. The market value of a commodity is the only reason it is produced by capitalists, who have no use for 50000 gallons of olive oil for example. These two elements of a commodity are in tension with one another, and from this embryo of contradiction, all of the contradictions in capitalism are formed. Everything that happens in the market is subjected to this bifurcation of usefulness and exchange value. Real estate, goods, machines, and even human labor.
>>671606 Easiest explanation of what a commodity is, is that it's something that is bought and sold in a market. In Marxism, a commodity necessarily has a use value (meaning something it is practically useful for), and an exchange value, which is the "normal and fair" price. In chapter 1 of capital, Marx explains how this comes about and where this mysterious exchange value comes from. It seems as if a commodity has innate exchange value, such as gold or diamonds being inherently valuable. But he shows that exchange value is in fact a social relation between people, and this "natural price" comes from the average wage cost to produce the commodity. The capitalists tack on a "rent" or a profit (aka a markup) on top of the cost to produce commodities. This they can do because they are the owners of the means of production. This means that workers are getting less money than they put in via labor, because the capitalist did no work except take profit (or at least did not do proportional work to the profit they took). Before anyone starts to whine, this is a simplified version.

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9/11 and Osama Bin Laden Anonymous 07/05/2020 (Sun) 13:11:05 No. 667999 [Reply] [Last]
Tell me the truth about Osama Bin Laden and 9/11 twin tower attack. Was Osama armed by CIA against USSR? If so why did he attack USA? Or did he? Was 9/11 an Inside job?
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>>668055 If a government has enough power to cover up a false flag attack of that scale, then they would be powerful enough to not even need such a false flag attack to justify a war of aggression.
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>>667999 Bush knocked down the towers.
>>671736 It isn't all that complicated - a few agents hijack a commercial planes, the airforce generals get warned a head of time to keep out of the way, and extra thermite charges are planted at the necessary I-beams resulting in a massive terror attack conveniently blamed on a CIA asset who no longer was needed. It was literally just Operation Northwoods with more steps and updated technology all over again.
>>671747 Sooo... what do you think happened to those agents? Did they just choose to die in the fireball for the CIA?
>>671781 Do you really think its that fucking hard to convince some fanatic raving about Jews or other threats to America to suicide into a international trading centre owned by a famous jewish porky? Look at Kamikaze pilots FFS.

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Anonymous 07/06/2020 (Mon) 12:02:19 No. 670141 [Reply] [Last]
What is to be done on the White South African Question (WSAQ)? They are clearly the ultra-kulaks of South Africa.
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>>671399 Are you that retard that thinks the american revolution wasn't progressive?
>>671429 Were they in america?
>>670196 >Afrikkaners always telling me that this is some Anti-White lynching song they sing to celebrate killing wyatt people or whatever. >"Who's that?" >Joe Slovo - google search >Some ancient ass WHITE communist in SA who they refer to in the song as their father. Are afrikkaners like pathological lie tellers or some shit?
>>671814 >they admire and praise a white person so they can't actually be idiots
>>671814 He's Jewish, wasn't a boer and was actually based. Joe Slovo, our father, kill the boer, etc.

How are people still obsessed with shitty consumer shit while the world is going to Hell? Anonymous 07/06/2020 (Mon) 16:22:40 No. 670673 [Reply] [Last]
Like, holy shit, there's so much actually meaningful and terrifying shit going on in the world, and yet people are still somehow wrapped up in media consumption. How is this possible? I don't mean shit like people just like things I don't mean people watching movies I mean shit like all the Star Wars YouTube channels bitching about Episode VIII three fucking years after it's released I mean constant vids discerning the deeper meaning of "le marvel universe" The fact that half the Breadtube crowd is still doing media criticism even though the world is unraveling around us All this fucking consoomption shit How do people do it? Literally none of this shit even remotely matters and people are religiously devoted to it somehow
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>>670673 Escapism. Deep down they know ita going to shit so CONSOOMING is the cope
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>>670739 >being revolutionary is wheb you paint (pic related) Imagine being such a spineless liberal you think producing loq effort shitty """art""" is revolutionary.
>>671024 what you like is objective shit
>>670739 >art is revolutionary by default The CIA literally admitted to having used modern art as a weapon against the soviets
>>670739 >art is revolutionary by default not under capitalism. if you want to make a living as an artist, you sell your art as a commodity, to bourgeois collectors. the world of high art and artists is 100% reactionary.

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Pagan's and the Left Anonymous 07/05/2020 (Sun) 18:34:59 No. 668603 [Reply] [Last]
Should we try and attract more pagans to the left? What are your general thoughts on pagans?
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>>669512 Yeah, but they do not want to be with us.
>>669648 This, plus they're often petty booj as well.
>>668603 Maybe this is exclusive to america but every pagan I've ever met is an alt right vikingboo
>>671382 you are probably in the wrong social circles, I've met a lot of radlib pagans, a few socialist ones also
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Ok, so how do we attract more pagans to the left?

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Anonymous 07/06/2020 (Mon) 19:45:56 No. 671125 [Reply] [Last]
I got Varg Vikernes's account locked lmoa.
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Why are mods so fucking angry
Early Burzum was good
>>671583 How does one achieve this? t. degenerate coomer
>>672190 Burzum's discography gets progressively worse every album, the debut being the best.

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Was Marx antisemitic Anonymous 07/06/2020 (Mon) 13:05:44 No. 670224 [Reply] [Last]
I was reading "On the Jewish Question," and it seemed he perpetuated a lot of stereotypes. I don't understand why
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>>671028 I see, what is it then? Is it even real or is it a social construct?
>>671035 class is defined by the relation to the means of production
>>671035 Well I go more or less by the definitions outlined on the image I posted there >>670839 The categories are social constructs in that we must agree on how to define the categories. But they still describe something really existing.
>>670224 It's been a while since I last read it, but from what I remember, what Marx was saying was something along the lines of >Everything that the Jews are blamed can actually be blamed on the bourgeoisie >The bourgeoisie blame Jews for what they do partly as projection, but mostly as deflection, in order to give the proletariat a "common enemy" which isn't their true enemy (the bourgeoisie)
>>670298 he was mocking the people who use the stereotypes for fuck's sake

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why is the gaming industry so corrupt? Anonymous 06/30/2020 (Tue) 00:02:54 No. 653078 [Reply] [Last]
Seriously, imagine traumatizing your animators just so you can have a realistically bloody game. And why are soy consoomers so silent or indifferent to the way developers are treated within the gaming industry?
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>>671345 >defending cheaters
>>671354 true. forgot his name
>>671367 He isn't on Kotaku anymore
>>671312 I still can't believe EA dumped 40mio into that trashfire
>>671413 Capitalism is nothing if not inefficient

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