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Anonymous 12/11/2019 (Wed) 17:16:08 No. 155065 [Reply]
if you ever feel hopeful about politics just remember that there are people registered to vote who base their politics on fever-dream paranoid fantasies where anita sarkeesian takes away their bakemonogatari doujins at gunpoint
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>>156046
>by what measure is japan not a straight up one party dictatorship?
It's allied to USA
>>155189
Xi literally rose from a reeducation camp to successful regional administrator to president you dipshit. There are corrupt elements in the CCP certainly but stop this lib nonsense.
>politics is just electoral politics
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>SJWs haven't repeatedly and openly promised to take away your privacy, your freedom of expression, and indeed your loli
I hope you and all your fellow parasites are burned on a pyre of feminazi academic journals alongside the christard fundies you've allied yourselves with

>>155073
More relevant map based on OP's denialism
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>>155983
I saved this and never got the chance to use it

>>153487
He’s dope and went out of his way to piss off gusanos when they were trying to coup Venezuela
>>153487
The Coup is good.
>>153487
I liked Sorry to Bother You. It sort of falls apart towards the end but it's overall pretty good and the reveal is fun.
Though I just read a few days ago his thoughts on Joker - it's so obvious he didn't watch the film so I don't know where he's coming from
>“The truth is that these superhero movies are cop movies, and cop stories, cop shows, and cop movies are all about saying one thing — that those in poverty are there because they made the wrong choices, that the impoverished are in poverty because of their own mistakes and their own shortcomings, and it has nothing to do with the system,” Riley said.
>He added, “The ‘Joker’ movie reinforces that by telling you, not only are these folks there because of who they are, [but that] the poor folks are stupid and when they rebel, it’s because they’re angry, and actually, rich people had nothing to do with them being poor. In actuality, those that are rich got rich off of exploiting the workers.”
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/12/joker-boots-riley-1202194606/
>>153828
Tbh, that’s probably the way the director and the people who funded the film wanted us to see it.
Joker isnt supposed to be the good guy and we’re supposed to extract some moral lesson about how if we let people rebel they might kill Batman’s parents. “You dont want to be responsible for killing batman’s parents, do you”?
Granted, you can reinterpret it any way you like.

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The Conquest of Bread Anonymous 12/12/2019 (Thu) 13:28:41 No. 155897 [Reply]
What do you think about this book? Do you like it? Why/why not?
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>>155897
How many breadtubers have actually read him?
>>155897
I wish it didn't have a catchy name so folks would read something else instead of memeing about bread.
>>155973
Probably a lot but not throughly, like how many socdems have read Marx but only the memefesto.
Too idealist/spooky for my taste.
>>155897
is the communist manifesto but for anarchists, quite shallow. mutual aid is that good shit
>>155897
Great polemic, not hard theory. Better than the memefesto to redpill with, but quite idealistic and impractical

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Actual CIA Military coup ongoing in Bolivia Right Fucking Now Anonymous 11/10/2019 (Sun) 10:44:46 No. 121263 [Reply]
>Neo-Nazi's and IMF / OAS shocktrooper right-wingers rioting and attacking / killing Unionists Indigenous activists leftists etc
>Army has announced they wont "Stop the popular will of the people" Against a democratic election that they lost And will not stop the rioters / death squads
>Police Mutinying and giving weapons to / helping rioters
>Remaining Legal right-wing opposition have begun to openly push for regime change
Their "Muh dictator rigging election need to step down
>Tens of thousands of union members, indigenous people, and rural farmers are basically forming worker militias and fighting back and having pitched street battles with the Right-Wingers / reactionaries / Police / Army
They failed in Venezuela / Cuba / Nicaragua and are absolutely seething that Lula was allowed out of prison and their bullshit about Evo "rigging the election" fell apart so now their literally just going to kill him
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Linera is pretty cool. I've seen interviews with him. You should keep him, México in case he can't go back home ;^(
>>151323
are they really calling the OAS independent and international? Man literally fuck the BBC
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yoJMzEZZoWxQ
A short twitter live outside the @The_Dialogue event with Bolivian far-right coup leader Luis Fernando Camacho
>>151323
>servers
Fucking where and how?
>>156193
It's Max Blumenthal streaming btw

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/dprk/ -- DPR Korea General Comrade 08/05/2019 (Mon) 14:04:23 No. 9051 [Reply]
Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
Archive of first ~500 posts on original thread:
https://archive.fo/pRkxK
Subsequent archives:
https://archive.fo/https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2265496.html
Related archives:
https://archive.fo/HbuXi
https://archive.fo/https://8ch.net/leftpol/res/36983.html
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>>154805
ROK didn't even sign the armistice agreement.
>During my time working at the Seoul Rape Crisis Center, one of the more well-established response service in Korea, I saw how yellow bodies silently absorbed this cost: sexual assault of Korean women by white men, mostly American, constituted at least a third of the Center’s cases.
https://novaramedia.com/2017/03/12/who-gets-sick-from-yellow-fever-what-carceral-feminism-does-not-see/
Despite being less than 1% of the population
>>40473
>Denuclearisation
No
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>>156122
Literal colony. American soldiers rape, steal and traffic drugs and can't be judged by korean courts. Not even in Japan they can get away with it.

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convince a /pol/tard? Anonymous 11/29/2019 (Fri) 15:20:53 No. 143097 [Reply]
I have been on (4)/pol/ since 2015 and it's to the point where I'm sick of the same far-right talking points spammed day after day. What's some left-wing/socialist books and reading material for someone who is already predisposed to the tenets of the far-right? I want to see a leftist perspective on things like ethnonationalism, the Jewish question, and social programming by the media. I've read the first volume of capital and have recently bought the conquest of bread.
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>>152765
Or maybe --> >>149754

Not sure now :^)
>>152762
> because it felt like it was trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls ad infinitum.
Yeah nah yeah, a lot of the posting is by people who've just discovered the place, people who've been on it for a while only post when it gets interesting or they're pushing something forwards
>>143421
What a load of bull. Are you claiming the whole left as your own dogma?
>>143633
>Under National Socialism, the government will not approve of any business activity unless that business has a positive impact on the nation as a whole and the people of the nation – this is the axiom which determines everything within the economic aspect of National Socialism.
LoL. Did not seem to work in practice.
>>143640
I think you are rather bombarded by bad press on blacks. Yes, there are niggers among blacks. But, quite a lot of them are actually good people and share the same culture as you, if you care to find out.

>>143912
>This imagined future is closer than you imagine.
citation needed
>>143097
This kind of people are easily turned leftist because they follow peer pressure. The problem is that you lose them as easily as you convert them. I was communist before /pol/ existed and will be even after lurking a decade.

How to defend Stalin (&co.) IRL debates Anonymous 11/29/2019 (Fri) 15:43:58 No. 143109 [Reply]
Public discourse on topics such as Stalin have no tolerance for nuanced views. If you let this pass you already lost at their game: you either join their non-nuanced game by spouting "Stalin dindu nuffin" (which is a funny meme on online radleft circles but you'll look like a sperg if you spout memes offline), or you try to mealy-mouth it which is immediately detected as dishonest, as if you had something to be ashamed of, as if you were hiding something.

The alternative approach is to be completely upfront and ready to discuss the topic, ousting your opponents in the process as being unnuanced. When you sense that your opponent is starting to set the stage for his epic dunk about them billions in the debate just interject and tell him that you can name 5 things Stalin did right and 5 things Stalin did wrong, and ask him if he can do the same.

The trick here is to paint his (historically unprecedented, really) achievements as palatable to regular folk as possible, while when offering your criticism of Stalin you do it from a Marxist POV. This way you basically gave +10 points for communism instead of +5 and -5, while you can be absolutely certain that your opponent can name a single thing beyond the jillions.

Since many of us are underread on Soviet history I want to ask anons to show how their list would look like. Flag posters preferred, for clarity's sake. Template:

Pro-Stalin:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

Critical of Stalin:
1.

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>>155058
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP DEFENDING STALIN DON'T YOU KNOW HE KILLED 995968938692393562 BILLION PEOPLE
>>144851
marxist mls. what a thought
>>155058
>abuse of the bourgeoisie
>>155058
impressively retarded take. Fucking lib
Also, you will prolly notice any scocialist with accomplishments is either vilified or neutered, you will have literally no one to defend except idiots removed from power by fascists if you start conceding to the complete retards for whom stalin is uniquevicollay bad
>>155094
this.

>defending a dictator
FUCK. YOU.
Stalin was not a dictator, no matter how hard you want it.

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/lat/ - hilo socialista Anonymous 11/13/2019 (Wed) 03:20:29 No. 125182 [Reply]
Edition Coup
No tenemos un hilo para los hispanohablantes, pues aqui esta.

Thread for latin americans and spanish speakers to discuss happenings.
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el bumpo
>>153674
Ya lo teníamos >>131807
>>153669
Por el amor a Dios, que Maduro y Miguel usen sus ejércitos para liberarnos. No puedo más con este tormento.
>>125939
esto me parece muy importante para defenderse ante USA y poder desarrollar el socialismo en america. saludos desde españa.
>>141834
>fuerzas reaccionarias que buscan beneficiarse de la sumisión económica hacia Occidente pintándolo como 'libertad y patriotismo'

Prácticamente todos los derechistas "nacionalistas y patriotas" latinoamericanos.

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Young Leftist looking for literature Anonymous 12/12/2019 (Thu) 03:26:04 No. 155657 [Reply]
Im a 18 year old former liberal turned communist. I have read the collected works of Mikhail Bakunin, I have also read lenin, Trotsky, and Berkman. I also read the militant.
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>>155945
Well, Mao surely is important.

Nice easy and compressed Marx' digest can be found among Karl Kautsky's books.
>>155672
>I have also read Marx
>I have also read lenin
Which works exactly, dumb dumb? You are talking here about 20k+ pages.
>>155657
Youre young so start with Marx, Engels, Lenin and Mao. But continue to classical liberal economics to have better understanding of the critique of communism but in this order so you have answers to these questions.
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>>155685
>Towards a new socialism
seconded it's a great start
>>155685
thirded, but
>>155929
this as well

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Kessler Effect deterrent Anonymous 12/12/2019 (Thu) 15:33:14 No. 156077 [Reply]
I had what at first seemed to be like a stupid shower-thought, but the more I think, it starts to look pretty alright to me. Why don't use orbit-capable suicide spacecraft as a deterrent against foreign aggression by keeping them always targeted to launch at the largest / most clustered together points of artificial satellites? Producing nuclear weapons is a highly risky task to conduct, and it is difficult to actually get it all ready. Meanwhile space flight isn't perceived as some evil scheme (at least if you don't have some history of WMD construction). To my knowledge it should also be easier, for instance I know that Zaire had it's own space program, despite being an utter shithole. Then there is the fact that a Kessler Effect is a far bigger threat than nukes could ever be, as most likely a smaller rogue nation would never really make enough for a MAD, while in theory a single well placed hit can ensure it under my proposition. Hell, it's not even a real MAD, since a smaller and isolated state could quite well prepare for a full and permanent satellite blackout.
So how retarded is my idea? Is there some really obvious flaw in it that I missed?

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