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The coming social media purge Anonymous 11/08/2020 (Sun) 12:29:12 No. 1107659 [Reply] [Last]
In the coming months and years, the left will begin to be systematically purged from social media. This already has been happening under Trump to an extent, the main difference being that the right has a cottage industry of people like tim pool and crowder to cry about the right being deplatformed, while the left just gets silently purged (ex: chapos). Additionally anti imperialist news sources like greyzone and venezuela analysis are getting purged as well. The neoliberal dems are convinced the reason Trump won was because of Russian bots and "disinformation", and will pressure the tech companies into banning anything that's not CNN/MSNBC and confirmed by a panel of 15 "moderate" republicans. While the right has a whole ecosystem of alt-tech platforms such as bitchute, voat, the donald.win, dozens of racist blogs etc. The left mainly seems to be concentrated on twitter. The ones who will be tolerated will be "moderate" gatekeeping succdems who shut up about imperialism and have foreign policy views that would make Dick Cheney happy. Make no mistake: the left needs to build an infrastructure of it's own, or it will be caught flat footed when the deplatforming comes. The neoliberals are just waiting to get into power from Trump, the natsec elites are coming for us next.
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>>1174268 >American police, not the FBI or the British police or the Australian police All have essentially the same worldviews, your point being?
Today I've posted an article on my blog on medium and suddenly, I'm unable to log in, because medium refuses to send me a mail. Did I have been locked out? Something like this has never happened to me before... Does anyone know a alternative to medium?
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>>1185439 I think Medium is indeed censoring political content. Some other guy has a similar problem. FUCK you can't write anything about politics these days... https://caucus99percent.com/content/i-demand-explanation-mediumcom-regarding-their-censorship-my-work
>YouTube Censorship and the End of History https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c5_hVUHp5o

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Toward a New Name Anonymous 12/01/2020 (Tue) 15:08:33 No. 1186983 [Reply] [Last]
https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/chile-toward-a-new-signifier/ Zizek's new effortpost is worth discussing at length. It ties together many ideas of psychoanalysis, ethics, and politics. Some highlights >QUOTE So, what can psychoanalysis tell us about the victory of APRUEBO in Chile? Instead of a pseudo-Freudian probing into the unconscious depths of a nation, it would be productive to begin with Lacan’s notion of the Master Signifier and apply it to the space of ideology. Let us begin with a comparison between Chile and the United States. One of the bad surprises of the US presidential elections was how many votes Trump gained also outside what people consider his constituency – among Blacks, Latinos, even the poor ones, and many women – plus how many votes Biden gained among old white men who were supposed to vote in much larger bloc for Trump. This unexpected reversal proves that Republicans are now, if anything, more of a working class party than Democrats, and that the almost symmetric 50/50 division of the US political body is not directly reflecting a class division but is the result of a whole series of ideological mystifications and displacements.[...] In stark contrast to this clear 50/50 division, the victorious APRUEBO in Chile referendum got no less than 78.27% of the total votes against RECHAZO, which got only 21.73% of the total votes. What is crucial is that this enormous voting gap is directly proportional to the concentration and distribution of wealth and privileges, with a much smaller group of the population being part of the elite (the “Rejection” option) and a majority group being aware of this social inequality and injustice (the “Approval” option). So, Chile is unique not because of some exotic particularity, but, precisely, because it renders directly visible the class struggle, which is obfuscated and displaced in the US and elsewhere. Chile’s uniqueness (exception) resides in the very universality of its situation. But here we should avoid the illusion that the disposition of votes in Chile was more “natural,” faithfully reflecting predominant class divisions, while in the US the electoral count doesn’t “reflect” faithfully the class division, but is distorted by ideological manipulations. There is nothing “natural” in political and ideological struggle for hegemony. EVERY hegemony is the result of a struggle, whose outcome is open. The victory of APRUEBO in Chile does not only demonstrate the absence of ideological manipulations, so that the distribution of votes could “faithfully” reflect class division; APRUEBO won because of a long and active struggle for ideological hegemony. In this context, we should use Ernesto Laclau’s theory of the struggle for ideological hegemony, which is ultimately the struggle for Master Signifiers – not only which Master Signifier will predominate, but also how this Master Signifier will organize the entire political space. Let’s take the obvious example: ecology, the struggle against global warming and pollution. With the exception of (more and more rare) deniers, almost everybody agrees that the ecological crisis is one of the central issues today, that it poses a threat to our very survival. The struggle turns around what Laclau called “chain of equivalences”: to which other signifiers (topics of ideologico-political struggle) will “ecology” be linked? We have state ecology (ony a strong state can deal with global warming), capitalist ecology (only market mechanisms – higher taxes on products that pollute our environment are the way out), anti-capitalist ecology (the dynamics of capitalist expansion are the main cause of our ruthless exploitation of nature), authoritarian ecology (ordinary people cannot understand the complexity of ecological crisis; we have to trust strong state power supported by science), feminist ecology (the ultimate cause of our troubles is the social power of men who are more aggressive and exploitative), conservative ecology (we need to return to a more balanced traditional mode of life), etc. The struggle for hegemony is not just the struggle to accept ecology as a serious issue, but much more the struggle for what this word will mean, how it will be linked to other notions, including science, feminism, capitalism… < interjecting to add here that this is what /leftypol/ is all about, not just about communism winning, but which-communism will win The imposition of a new Master Signifier is, as a rule, experienced as “finding the right name” for what we are trying to grasp. However, this act of “finding” is productive; it establishes a new symbolic field. In Chile, the Master Signifier of the ongoing protests and of the APRUEBO movement is “dignity.” Chile is not an exception here: despite poverty, hunger and violence, despite economic exploitation, the protests that are exploding from Turkey and Belarus to France regularly evoke dignity. Again, there is nothing specifically Leftist or even emancipatory in “dignity”. If one were to ask Pinochet himself about it, he would without any doubt celebrate dignity, though by including it in a different “chain of equivalences” along the patriotic-military line: his 1973 coup saved Chile’s dignity from a totalitarian-Leftist threat. For the partisans of APRUEBO, on the contrary, “dignity” is linked to social justice that will diminish poverty, universal healthcare, guaranteed personal and social freedoms, etc. The same goes for with “justice”: Pinochet would undoubtedly advocate justice, but his kind of justice, not egalitarian economic justice. “Justice” would have meant that everybody, especially those at the bottom, should know their proper place… One of the reasons for the triumph of APRUEBO was that they won the struggle for hegemony, so that, if now “dignity” and “justice” are mentioned in Chile, they mean what APRUEBO stands for. This, of course, doesn’t imply that political or economic struggles can be reduced to discursive conflicts. What it does imply is that the level of discourse has its own autonomous logic, not only in the sense that economic interests cannot be directly translated into symbolic space, but in a more radical sense: how economic and social interests are perceived is already mediated by discursive processes. A simple example: when a country is starving, hunger is a fact. But what matters is how this fact is experienced. Is its cause attributed to Jewish financiers? Is it perceived as a fact of nature (bad weather), or as an effect of class exploitation? Another example: only after the rise of feminism was the subordinated role of women in their families and their exclusion from social life perceived as an injustice. Before that moment, to be married to a loving husband and well provided for was considered great luck. The first step of feminism is not a direct step towards justice, but the awareness of women that their situation is unjust. In a homologous way, workers don’t protest when they live in poverty; they protest when they experience their poverty as an injustice, for which the ruling class, as well as the state, are responsible.

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>>1187327 >in the US we often hear instead "middle class Americans" because anti-communist orthodoxy runs so deep I'm pretty sure they meant what they said: the middle class, the petit-bourgeoisie, the people who own and are invested in the private property regime that makes the establishment and property ownership possible. The confusion of the middle class and the working class is witting and malicious. Symbol manipulators want the working class to identify with middle-class interests even though they do not have them. (They call them 'working class' when they don't identify with those interests, and they erase them from respectability.) The exact same thing was done to left and liberal, democracy and republicanism. Yes, bourgeoisie lie because it's their property and property is a lie.
>Within APRUEBO itself, there are signs of a conflict between those who want to remain within traditional representative democracy and those who want a more radical social mobilization. The way out of this predicament is not to get stuck in boring “principled” debates, but to get to work, elaborating and enforcing different projects. Daniel Jadue is the right person to coordinate these efforts, also with regard to his achievements as the mayor of Recoleta. The great hit of the Chilean group Los Prisioneros, “El baile de los que sobran” (“The dance of those who are left over”), became a musical symbol of the protesters occupying the streets. Now, Chile needs el trabajo duro de los que sobran (the hard work of those who are left over). If this does not happen, the old regime will survive with a new social-democratic mask >This, again, perfectly fits a postmodern society, where those in power have more important things to do than to “propose projects.” It is the impotent Left (or extreme Right) that “propose projects,” >But what to do when the turtle (of our social order) IS already on its back, so wounded that there is no way of turning it back onto its paws? There is no time for warnings not to disturb appearances; the appearances are destroying themselves! Did a self-professed Christian conservative Donald Trump not do more to disturb appearances than the all the Leftists opposing him? In such moments, when social order is in disarray, psychoanalytic theorists tend to promote another type of warning: don’t trust the revolutionaries who promise to lead us out of the catastrophe into a new, more just order. >This is how one should proceed with Hitler and Nazism: not to “sublate” them (to get rid of their “excesses” and save the sane core of the project) but to kill them in their notion, to destroy this very notion. And it’s the same with Trump and his legacy >To kill a movement in its notion, one needs new signifiers >Lacan is no longer satisfied with such an encounter of a central gap or impossibility as the ultimate human experience: he sees the true task in the move that should follow such an experience, the invention of a new Master Signifier, which will locate the gap/impossibility in a new way. >In politics, this means that one should leave behind the false poetry of great revolts that dissolve the hegemonic order. >The true task is to impose a new order, and this process begins with new signifiers This is interesting, he seems to be calling for action to elaborate projects in the real world and create a new, actual normal rather than play around in ideas and programs. He calls for the "killing of the notion" of trump and nazis - i wonder why just these? he says that the US is already on it's back and it's destroying it's own appearances. I wonder if his idea of destroying the notions is only directed at alternative normals, rather than the actual one we live in? It seems like he has this idea that we cynically follow ideology even while we know it's wrong - is this that the US is already "killed in notion"? Anyways i think i disagree with my understanding of that last line(?), even just based on what he's laid out here. I'm skeptical that we'll get the invention of new signifiers necessarily before the actual change. It seems like new signifiers fly around all the time, but they're not grounded and lead to cynical (non-)acceptance of the dominant culture. I'd guess that they go hand in hand - as a new normal is established, it's necessary signifiers will become normal and dominant as that normal spreads, mutually enforcing as superstructure and base. It seems what we need right now in the US is not more arguing or spreading/propagandizing in the realm of ideas and signifiers and killing notions, but that "elaborating and enforcing different projects" that zizek mentions is needed for Chile right now. I personally think this is probably the only way to beat the cynical attitude of "well yeah capitalism is bad, the government has a bad "track record" (as if it can be boiled down to that), but it's the best we have" (or just saying that last part silently and accepting it as fact in their actions). We have to do better than capitalism and elaborate and enforce different projects, in order to see (as another poster here said) "which communism will win". And they might all take different axiomatic signifiers as part of their ideological core, but those signifiers won't spread without the material spread of these projects. I think this cynical turtle-on-it's-back America is ripe for the elaboration of new projects. The notion of the US is thoroughly killed, but it's body lives on in shame and maybe there's a realization that it's not a bad thing - the new political actors innovating in the anglosphere (BoJo and Trump) are openly crass and a little stupid and corrupt. With this face, there's no scandal that can shake them. They triumphantly admit their humiliation before the press can dig up more dirt. This is the man killed in the notion but who has gotten used to it - now there's nothing in the realm of their own actions or radlib academic critiques that can shun or hurt or humiliate them more. I notice how zizek chooses nazism first as the victim of this killing-in-notion - it's already dead in actuality. We're really just sort of exorcizing a spirit that's been raising some mostly-decayed corpses. The problem with nazism is the notion.

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>>1187338 >>1187327 >anarchA beyond parody
>>1187327 I feel like there is a degree to which it is both the case that the parties are unmoored from “material politics” in the sense of actual appropriation or application of the national surplus, as well as being occasionally rooted in it for some people. The parties still have a range of demographics for their voters, and in the redistributive sense of policy the working class is more likely to care about it. The majority of both parties are voted on by people who make above median income in the US. These are relatively comfortable people, though not without their problems. You can still have your finances ruined by cancer, a natural disaster, or a market downturn for instance. That possibility or actuality can swing people’s political priorities. But most people above that median income aren’t dealing with something catastrophic at any normal time, so politics is more ephemeral to them by default. That isn’t to say you can’t appeal to their material interests, but it is to say that they likely feel less pressure. Furthermore, many have been ideologically warped to be suspicious of government power in their lives, because the government feels much less accountable to them than even something like finding a new job that has better benefits. Americans are socialized to rely on themselves, and there is some sense in that because why would you rely on the political machine in DC? Sure, you vote on these people, but intuitively everybody knows that you don’t choose the qualities of the people you can vote for, you don’t really know them, and by any normal assumptions they’re probably a self-interested creep, and you have no idea what they do day to day for their 2-4 years of office. So ironically, the politicians who say they don’t want to fuck with your life are popular, even when it takes a neoliberal tone of laissez-faire capitalism. They are trustworthy in the sense that they are saying “you don’t have to like me, I’m telling you I don’t want to do anything but give you more of your paycheck!” But then you have the actual handful of working poor voters, the people really struggling. These are the minority, most working people who are struggling don’t pay much attention to politics outside of scowling at what a bunch of rats those people are. These voters are more amenable to material politics, but they’re also disenchanted with politics and confused by the system. Politicians regularly lie to them, nobody ever changes much, so aside from causing them to not care to vote it also causes them to be hard to marshal to an election off the back of big promises because they’re skeptical and too busy to really overcome that skepticism enough to get engaged with the electoral circus. Which is just to say that even if these people didn’t go out to vote at various times, it is unclear what it indicates about their situation on its face. I’d guess most of them just feel so deeply powerless and alienated from institutional bourgeois politics that it looks like a stage show, like the whole thing is just a mirage. Many don’t even care to parse fiction from reality in big national politics, what does it do for them? They’re busy thinking about their own small lives, because that’s all they’ve got and it is so self-evident that they really don’t even investigate why politics just seems like a boring vacuum of meaningless chatter.
>>1187573 You're right that for zizek, ideology is not only in your mind but also in practice. Cynicism doesn't do anything. Marx said same with regard to commodity fetishism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcrhjDm4mcQ

Should I join DSA? Anonymous 12/01/2020 (Tue) 17:02:31 No. 1187285 [Reply] [Last]
What exactly do they do? Would I be contributing to anything worthwhile by joining and paying dues and shit?
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>>1188557 >brainwashing unironically yes. what you fail to realize though is that you have already been "brainwashed" into believing what you do now. There isn't a single adult alive who hasn't been "brainwashed" into believing one thing or another. The trick is to find the "brainwashing" that suits your best interests. "Spend your energy campaigning for dems" seems admiral to begin with as small gains can be had from these opportunists but one only needs to see the history of the US and Northern European labor movement to find how quickly these gains are rolled back sticking you in a roundabout of activism with little and sluggish lasting change. It is a matter of useful energy. Do you believe it is best to incrementally change the system when each step of the way can be undone as you progress to the next goal or do you wish to initiate broad sweeping change instantly? the broad change still carries the risk of being undone but measure the relative happiness and prosperity gained from it at least initially.
>>1188588 >Do you believe it is best to incrementally change the system when each step of the way can be undone as you progress to the next goal Not ideal, but it's the only viable option we've got >do you wish to initiate broad sweeping change instantly? Would be nice, but not likely to happen. I fully acknowledge many of the problems associated with reformism, and its past failures to transition to full-blown socialism. However, I also understand that basing your entire strategy around some 100+ year old books that were written in a much different time period in a much different place may not be the best idea. I'm sure some of Lenin's ideas are still fine, but, frankly, I don't feel like his whole vanguard revolution strategy is applicable to 21st century America. People have been trying it here for over a hundred years, but it hasn't gotten anywhere. If Leninism is universally applicable, then why has only worked in poor, non-industrialized countries?
>>1187290 t ultra
>>1188597 Vanguardism is not applicable to the US atm because it lacks the necessary pressures. It is very applicable to latin-america as is plain to see. The entire name of the game is capitalizing on contradictions of the system thus far the US has had the benefit of being sheltered from every serious conflict. What passes as disastrous in the US is laughable compared to the pressures abroad: one fucking terrorist attack two or three major buildings come on. The reason the US has been able to maintain capitalism is due to this isolation and the ability from it to prop up other nations abroad without those luxuries. Crisis can thus be mitigated for a very long time. Unfortunately for the US many a calamity can touch it as seen by the pandemic and climate change. The Africas did not face the same pressures that Europe and Asia did so it was stagnant for a long time in a state of pseudo-stability. All it takes is a push to move to a new stable state determined by the average level of technological development achieved by the entire human race. As this technological development continues so too does the conditions to bring about change. Slave societies were stagnant technologically because their answer to all questions of production was just "more slaves": This was its downfall. Feudalism was complacent to the development of industrial sectors as they moved to push out a surplus of laborers that quickly dried up: that was its downfall. Capitalism is unable to strategically allocate resources for their best use relying on sluggish market signals that stifles growth while actual growth reduces the rate of profit: this will be its downfall.
>>1188657 even if we get knocked back into fucking feudalism because of the climate crisis it still wouldn't matter in the end. If the human race survives long enough it will have to redevelop capitalism. Capitalism still unable to overcome these contradictions must give way to communism of some form. It is a historical inevitability.

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The overpopulation meme Anonymous 11/26/2020 (Thu) 06:19:38 No. 1171689 [Reply] [Last]
I'm so tired of right-wingers and gullible liberals buying into this neomalthusian meme.
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>>1177812 also even with an absurdly large population you would still have more extra space than in most cities. the earth has a land area of 148 million square kilometers, even with a hundred billion people that would be a population density of 675 people per square kilometer - about the same as Taiwan or Lebanon and only 50% higher than in New Jersey. meanwhile i doubt we will get above 20 billion for centuries
>>1188400 he Netherlands is a nitrogen hot spot partly because it is a dense, urbanized nation, although controls on power plants and catalytic converters in autos have helped curb nitrogen oxide emissions. The bigger problem is ammonia emissions from concentrated livestock operations. Dutch farms contain four times more animal biomass per hectare than the EU average. Practices such as injecting liquid manure in the soil and installing air scrubbers on pig and poultry facilities have reduced ammonia emissions 60% since the 1980s, but they have risen slightly since 2014 because of expanding dairy operations. Dutch agriculture is responsible for nearly half of nitrogen pollution that falls in the country. In 118 of 162 Dutch nature reserves, nitrogen deposits now exceed ecological risk thresholds by an average of 50%. In dunes, bogs, and heathlands, home to species adapted to a lack of nitrogen, plant diversity has decreased as nitrogen-loving grasses, shrubs, and trees move in. Heathlands are turning green-gray as invasive grasses overwhelm the purple heather and yellows and blues of small herbaceous flowering plants, says Eva Remke, an ecologist at B-WARE Research Centre in Nijmegen. "The grasses will win, and the herbs will lose." These losses cascade through the ecosystem, contributing to the decline of insect and bird diversity, she says. To control emissions, in 2015 the Netherlands introduced a nitrogen permit system that allows construction if, for example, regional governments reduce nitrogen from other sectors, such as farming. The system relies on a model developed by the Dutch National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM) to calculate how much nitrogen is emitted by various activities and how much they contribute to pollution in natural areas.
>>1188400 >>1188403 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322420620_Slurry_Management_on_Family_Farms_Using_Acidification_System_to_Reduce_Ammonia_Emissions "Acidification reduces NH3 emission from pig houses by 70% compared with the standard housing treatment. Little loss was observed from stored slurry, and the NH3 emission from applied slurry was reduced by 67%. In consequence, a 43% (S.E. 27%) increase in mineral fertilizer equivalent (MFE) was measured in field studies. The slurry acidification system is approved Best Available Technology (BAT) in Denmark." https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340551594_Mitigation_of_Ammonia_Emissions_from_Cattle_Manure_Slurry_by_Tannins_and_Tannin-Based_Polymers "In this research the mitigation effect of tannin-based adsorbents onto ammonia and gaseous emission was investigated. Chestnut and mimosa industrial tannin extracts, tannin gel, and tannin-furanic foams were tested against a 0.1% template ammonia solution and 50% diluted cattle manure slurry. Significant to outstanding reductions of ammonia emissions were registered in every test. Even small concentrations of tannin-based powders already offer good mitigation of ammonia adsorption. When 10% of adsorbent was used, the emissions of ammonia sank up to 77% for ammonia and 99% for manure. It was confirmed that the pH had an important role on the ammonia adsorption, but the type of tannin also had a major impact. Mimosa tannin-based adsorbents showed roughly 10% higher adsorptions than chestnut powder in both experiments." "The presence of adsorbent not only decreased the emission of ammonia but also shortened the time until the maximum concentration of ammonia was emitted up to around 10 times (from 30 to 3 minutes)." "These results promote tannins and tannin-based products as suitable adsorbents to fix ammonia and, hence, to fulfil the requirements of the European Union concerning the reduction of agricultural ammonia emissions. Further studies are necessary to investigate the long-term effects on the ammonia emission reduction and to clarify the transformation process of nitrogen occurring in the soil when complexed to tannin-based adsorbents."
>>1188400 >>1188403 https://sci-hub.st/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0048969716319970?via%3Dihub "A process-based model is proposed, which is able to calculate NH3 emission reduction factors for dairy cattle barns that feature a single or multiple management-based NH3 emission mitigation technique(s). The considered alternative ‘low emission' management techniques include: (a) scraping the floor; (b) flushing the floor with water; (c) different types of floor and (d) indoor acidification of manure. The NH3 emission reduction factor is calculated considering an alternative barn, in which at least one of the emission mitigation methods mentioned above is applied, and a standard barn, which has none.The modeled NH3 emission of the standard barn and the reduction factors agreed with estimates from empirical studies found in the literature. A list of NH3 emission reduction techniques was proposed. In order of efficiency, NH3 emission reduction technologies were determined: manure acidification, floor scraping and flushing. For combinations of techniques, the order of efficiency was: (a)floor scraping combined with manure acidification (44–49%); (b) solid floor combined with scraping and flushing (21–27%); (c)floor scraping combined with flushing and (d)floor scraping alone (17–22%)."

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Self-criticism, pt. 2 Anonymous 11/29/2020 (Sun) 09:13:53 No. 1180745 [Reply] [Last]
Within the context of realizing a communist society, what mistakes were made by communists in the 20th century? Was it possible to avoid making such mistakes? If so, how?
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>>1185645 Enterprise Resource Planning
>>1185488 pol pot. disregarding the fact that americans basically put him into power by bombing viet cong supply routes in cambodia with huge civilian casualties
>>1185970 The catch up game has already started by Stalin. The problem is that their failed to expand the system beyond the boundaries of the Warsaw Pact. Having a peaceful coexistence with the global system with the goal of stagnating the world is a plan bound to fail.
>>1185951 >I think there's promise in more flexible manufacturing technologies like 3D printing and robotics which might make it possible to have something like an manufacture-on-demand economy where people (or retail stores of some kind) could just directly order what goods they want from publicly owned automated manufacturing plants, that'd avoid the need for planning of production numbers. This sounds very interesting, do you know of any resources on this?
>>1188196 This was just an idea that occurred to me when reading about the capitalist use of on-demand manufacturing as in https://archive.is/QPqOZ (and also thinking about science fiction analogues like the 'replicators' in Star Trek's moneyless future), I haven't seen anyone discuss this as a near-future option for a socialist system. I did find some similar ideas about a non-capitalist system without the need for central planning in Evgeny Morozov's article at https://archive.is/6NuYZ but the specific scheme he discusses near the end (by Daniel Saros) still requires people to pre-register all the goods they plan to buy over an extended period (though it allows for some degree of changes), which is a little different from what I was imagining.

Anonymous 12/01/2020 (Tue) 19:36:23 No. 1187825 [Reply] [Last]
Hundreds of people lost at least one eye during the Chilean protests and the government doesn't give a fuck, but some NGO makes a song about "jumping over turnstiles" (what started the riots in Chile) and neocons and even the government started whining about how "violence isn't the way to ask for civil rights".
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>>1187825 Yeah Chileans to need to get their current politicians out of office. They need a new Allende.
>violence isn't the way to ask for civil rights its the only thing that works
The ruling class determine the ruling ideas
>>1187920 Every. Single. Epoch.
It is true, we should remind liberals that armed insurrection is not a correct manner

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/Bolivia/ - Rightious Vegence eidtion Anonymous 12/01/2020 (Tue) 10:56:45 No. 1186504 [Reply] [Last]
What the fuck bros, it's not meant to go like this, we can't just win and get justice without a terror. There's something wrong, it feels so... good. Sources: https://mobile.twitter.com/KawsachunNews https://mobile.twitter.com/LaRazon_Bolivia https://mobile.twitter.com/OVargas52 https://mobile.twitter.com/KawsachunCoca
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>>1186882 place bets where the bolivian gusanos will settle in burgerstan I bet Florida
>>1186892 >I bet Florida <+500 No bet. >>1186791 Is Jeanine Anus not still in custody?
whatll happen now. will they govern just like before or will they make some changes
>>1186504 >implying this will last
>>1188416 Aside from purging the army, which they already have done, I doubt they'll go full DotP.

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Anonymous 11/26/2020 (Thu) 00:29:52 No. 1170874 [Reply] [Last]
https://unherd.com/2020/11/the-age-of-the-middle-class-is-over/ when will people learn that woketards are unwitting foot soldiers for international capital
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"Unfortunately, where California leads, America and then Europe follows." Is this true at all?
California sucks compared to anywhere.
>>1181637 they have the highest accumulation of capital in the whole world because of silicon valley
>>1181304 A n alarmingly significant portion of stupidpol's userbase isn't even socialist lol, they're just there to get angry over twitter screencaps.
>>1170966 Kill yourself

The Triumph of the Soviet Economy Anonymous 11/26/2020 (Thu) 03:54:32 No. 1171371 [Reply] [Last]
<There is one extended period in the history of the Soviet economy when it experienced a genuine flourishing. This is the 1950s. The subsequent events in the Soviet economy have to a great extent squeezed this period out of the field of historical and economic research. Turning points like NEP and the 1930s and the degeneration of the command economy in the 1960s1980s have attracted more attention. Ideological considerations have also played a certain role in directing attention to these periods. History, as often happens, served not always consciously the interests of political struggle. Analysis of the reasons for the flourishing of the Soviet economy in the 1950s and the transition in the subsequent period to a slow-down in economic development, in my opinion, deserve much more attention from historians and economists than is the case at present. Ten years of economic development are too long a time for the successes of this decade to be ascribed just to particular temporary factors. <Whilst in the first years of the fourth five-year plan the recovery of the Soviet economy was achieved primarily on an extensive basis, by increasing the numbers employed and fixed capital used and the sown area and livestock numbers in agriculture, in the last two years of the fourth five-year plan labour productivity rose and production costs fell exceptionally quickly. This rapid growth in the efficiency of production delivered exceptionally rapid growth in the real income of the population and retail trade turnover. Although the official data somewhat exaggerate its pace, they nonetheless reflect the trend of this growth. Thus, according to TsSU data, real income per worker increased by 12% in 1949 and 15% in 1950, and retail trade turnover by 20% in 1949 and 30% in 1950. Thanks to this enormous increase in the efficiency of production at the end of the fourth five-year plan, stability of the monetary, credit and financial system was successfully achieved which had previously been rather rare in the Soviet economy. For the first time in many years retail prices declined not only in state but also in kolkhoz market trade, and wholesale prices were reduced considerably in the middle of 1950. <As can be seen from Table 1, the growth of national income in the USSR over the 1950s as a whole was many times greater than in such countries as the USA and UK, significantly exceeded that in France and was higher than in West Germany and even Japan, which grew especially quickly in this period (the pace of growth in Japan was influenced by the fact that by 1950 gross domestic product had not yet reached the pre-war level and at the beginning of this period the country exhibited the high rates of growth characteristic of a recovery period). Despite this, economic growth in the USSR in 1951-55 was higher than in all the remaining major developed countries. <A fundamentally new feature of this period in the evolution of the Soviet economy was the fact that, in contrast to the previous period, intensive factors became the basis of development of the economy. While GDP increased by more than 100%, the number employed rose by only 22% during the 1950s. Thus more than 80% of the increase in GDP was due to growth in labour productivity, whereas before the war less than half was attributable to this source. GDP also grew much faster in the 1950s than did the stock of fixed production capital, which, according to my calculations, increased by only 70% (total fixed capital increased still less), whereas in the pre-war period GDP grew much more slowly than fixed capital. Finally, the material intensity of output declined considerably, whereas before the war and in the 1940s it had risen significantly.
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>>1181817 >>1181826 you retards didn't actually read ops post
>>1187649 It's the in vogue post to make for retards at the moment
>>1171676 Cuba is making great strides in genuine democracy, worker's councils and worker control.
>>1181013 >But what happens? Fucking Khruschev. wow everything was perfect and on the road to communism before one man singlehandedly ruined it! your brain on finnish bolshevik

Honestly, are we at the end of the road for the Internet Commons? Anonymous 12/01/2020 (Tue) 06:55:11 No. 1186191 [Reply] [Last]
I feel we are nearing a final stage of the “enclosure” of what was once the internet “common net” so to speak; as in we are closing in on the moment when the entire internet is controlled, operated, and curated by porkies and the alphabet soup orgs. I actually remember the older days of the internet; not the early 2000s, but the early 2010s. I remember when the walls were just starting to close in; when websites started to really roll out advertising, when that bastard app Fedbook was born. I remember the entire process of Youtube.com’s subversion into a porky advertised filled shithole. I remember when Reddit became infested with ban happy glownîgger admins and powermods and ass tons of unmasked corporate shilling, I remember the long-march to extinction for the internet forums as sites like Reddit expanded to consume the niche, I remember the days before Google ad shills destroyed the fucking web. Before 4chan was absorbed in a polyp infestation. So many memories of the old web... Many oldfags here say Leftypol is truly one of the surviving artifacts of the Old Web; now this obviously ain’t true since Leftypol is from 2016, however it DOES have the actual feel of the old web, and even if it has trigger happy jannies it’s not at the level of the porky-controlled glowie infested mainstream sites like Feddit. I truly think we are in the last stretch, bros, Biden is already openly pro-censorship, more so than Trump; this will be the last decade for a free internet, maybe even the last five years.
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>>1186191 yeah we getting banned soon cos we gave up the dark web
Wait until you hear about neural networks and GPT-3.
>>1186815 Just filter "dicksword" to "dicksword = fbi honeypot." The recursion is intentional. It makes it harder to discuss because if you quote somebody without deleting the added words it adds more words if it has the .gg on the end it should still filter to fbi.gov though
>>1187268 >capitalism will just keep making things for us to subvert!!!1!one! Until you have built your own working Internet in your own bedroom without any connection to the global Internet, or even built a mail server on a dynamic Internet service, lurk, because you are way out over your skis. Concepts for you to google in the meantime: RADIUS (protocol), captive portal, dynamic/dialup users list, network effect >tHeYlL tHiNk oF sOmEtHiNg Deus ex machina is not an argument. t.have been programming since childhood, including webshit and non-webshit, some at global scale, and sees the easy cracks running out year by year
What's really accelerating the decline of the internet's freedom and diversity is the obsession with mobile compatibility, which is controlled by the tech companies (see, flash and apple). Few have the time and patience to use alternative media to communicate, and fewer yet have the time and patience to do it unless they're able to do it in a separate app where they have to give all their personal info.

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