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JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP Anonymous 07/02/2020 (Thu) 06:09:40 No. 660450 [Reply] [Last]
Hong Kong: hundreds arrested as security law comes into effect Teenager waving independence flag among those held as thousands take to the streets >More than 370 protesters in Hong Kong have been arrested as police fired teargas, pepper spray and water cannon at thousands of people protesting against a national security law imposed by Beijing. >The extent of Beijing’s mandate was made clear as full details of the law were released late on Tuesday, giving authorities sweeping powers to crack down on dissent and allowing China new levels of control over the semi-autonomous territory. >On Wednesday, the 23rd anniversary of the handover from Britain to China and the first day under the new law, Hong Kong’s chief executive, Carrie Lam, and government dignitaries from the city and Beijing drank champagne in celebration. Lam called th law “the most important development in relations” between Hong Kong and China since the 1997 handover. >By the afternoon, thousands of people had taken to the streets of Causeway Bay and Wanchai in defiance of protest bans. Police were seen pinning protesters to the ground, shooting pepper balls at people who heckled them, and targeting journalists with water cannon and rounds of pepper spray. >Police said 10 of the arrests were for offences related to the new security law, including holding signs or flags advocating for Hong Kong independence. Of those arrested, one was a 15-year-old girl who was waving a Hong Kong independence flag. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/01/hong-kong-protesters-arrested-as-security-law-comes-into-effect
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>>660453 Uh, yeah.
>>674454 >radio free literally U.S. propaganda station.
>>675589 her name is a joke, shes an Marxist, not part of Radio Free Asia
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>>674454 >yellow fever fags are crazy rightoid racists color me surprised!
How hard is r/hongkong seething right now? The impotente seethe makes me hard

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Leftypol Content Cheka 2.0 /Glowy Watch/ Anonymous 06/01/2020 (Mon) 06:26:54 No. 556308 [Reply] [Last]
And we are back after last thread got buried. In light of recent advances in proletarian struggle and the accompanying recent grifting attempts from outside forces, I'm reinstating the thread to assist in analyzing, quarantining and moderating grifters and bad faith actors. Report attempts at grifting and derailing discussion. Shame and track for b& if they make ground. Happy posting.
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>>675817 for some inexplicable reason they think it's a good idea to move all moderation related stuff to /gulag/
>>675828 Without telling anyone? That's retarded
>>675817 agreed, seems to me like mods have been allowing some really low quality threads/posts lately. Hell, there's a fucking monarchist thread here >>642365 that's been up for weeks, yet they don't even care
>>675835 They told us but then they deleted the thread. Since then the jannies have been curiously absent. So much shit has gone unmoderated these past few days.
>>675844 Thread is still up but unstickied so its floating at the bottom of the catalog with the old moderator thread.

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blocks your path Anonymous 07/08/2020 (Wed) 05:39:00 No. 674167 [Reply] [Last]
>Johan Norberg was born in Stockholm, the son of former Swedish National Archivist Erik Norberg and his wife Birgitta. He grew up in the suburb of Hässelby in western Stockholm. In his youth, Norberg was active as a left-anarchist but later abandoned those views and became a classical liberal. According to the biography given at his personal website, Norberg was disillusioned with the anarchist view of liberty when he discovered the collectivist themes in the major anarchist works, and was unable to sympathize with the pre-industrial society which its anarcho-primitivism promoted. This realization made him embrace classical liberalism, which he felt "took freedom seriously." >He studied at Stockholm University from 1992 to 1999 and earned a M.A. with a major in the history of ideas. His other subjects included philosophy, literature and political science. During his time at Stockholm University he was active in the libertarian network Frihetsfronten ("the Liberty Front") and was the editor of its journal Nyliberalen ("The Neoliberal"/"The Libertarian") from 1993 to 1997. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTk_eGZHbNY I used to be a left anarchist like you but then i became NEOLIBERAL because anarchism is actually still COLLECTIVIST. AOC IS A COMMUNIST. GHECKMATE GOMMIES
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>>674167 >Mr Cherrypicking Fuck him! In his history of swedish liberalism he basically erased Folkpartiet liberalerna, because their take on liberalism isn't within his +-0.000001% margins or something. He wrote a column in Metro about how SCIENCE! and PROGRESS! saved the miners in Copiapó. All of them! What he "forgot" was this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Copiap%C3%B3_mining_accident <Previous geological instability at the old mine and a long record of safety violations for the mine's owners, San Esteban Mining Company, had resulted in a series of fines and accidents, including eight deaths, during the dozen years leading up to this accident.[8][9][10] Following three years of work, lawsuits and investigations into the collapse concluded in August 2013 with no charges filed.[11] And as a matter of fact, the miners had been complaining about strange sounds down in the mine. Was the Occupational safety and health rep sleeping?
>>674288 Now show him what Adam Smith actually said about landlords and let's see what happens next.
Norberg is a joke in Sweden. Funnily enough, earlier in the year, at the height of the Sanders campaign, CNN ran a segment and an article on how socialism had ruined Sweden, basing it largely on Norberg's writings. IIRC they presented cherrypicked data from the 70s and 80s without context (and some of the data was outright false), and then laid the blame of the economic problems of the 90s basically on socialism (even though they really originated in the deregulation of the credit market by the neoliberals in the SAP). Same article went on to say that modern Sweden is more "market-friendly" than the U.S. because Sweden doesn't have a minimum wage (which shows exactly how little the CNN author knows about Sweden, and "market-friendliness" for that matter), and other retarded things like not understanding math or misunderstanding basic things about the Swedish healthcare system.
>a classical liberal >earned a M.A. with a major in the history of ideas funniest shit i've read all day
So some guy finally read a book and completely flipped his worldview? How's this relevant?

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Stop making cults of personality Anonymous 07/06/2020 (Mon) 03:58:27 No. 669623 [Reply] [Last]
is cringe
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>>675097 He's an actual centrist who made an e-career off of slandering the "political extremes" (equating the far-left's WaCkY aNtIcS with the far-right's). His content is pure post-modernism.
>>669658 he's an anarchist, but how is he a radlib?
China : *bans referring to Xi Jinping as "Big Daddy Xi" as a measure to prevent cult of personality from forming* Western leftists : "No not like that!"
>>669691 Kun, why most you post that image.

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The Great Internet Purge Anonymous 06/30/2020 (Tue) 01:07:52 No. 653253 [Reply] [Last]
>Leaks showing collaboration between social media sites and law enforcement during protests >reddit banning "extremist" subs >Internet Archives being targeted for "copyright" infrigement >Feds trying to kill encryption >Twitch apparently censoring >Youtube targeting "extremist" youtube channels >Twitter doubling down on "fact checking" and censorship We have for a long time, been aware of most of these things, but it seems as though the Great Internet Purge has decisively begun. The bar for what is considered "extremism" has been progressively lowered over the past few years, and privacy rights/surveillance has. Anarchism, Socialism, and Communism are all being put into the same category as fascism and white supremacy now, as expected. Over the past few years, I have always been against censorship of the fascists online because I knew it would one day be applied to the left, and what is happening now is exactly that. The timing and context of these happenings make it almost totally apparent that this is all coordinated; covid also seems to be very convenient for them as well. This is a coup by the tech companies/establishment to censor any dissent online, specifically on platforms that occupy a huge space in public discourse. The only question that remains is the question of what is to be done. Should we simply find and promote alternative platforms, or start using TOR, dark web platforms, and/or other decentralized networks? Discuss. Also everybody needs to seriously reconsider their OPSEC or lack thereof. VPNs, proxies, and TOR should be allowed here honestly.
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>>675025 >I have yet to see any marxists censored, whether we indulge you "no true scots man" fallacy or not. You don't have to worry about censoredship, as you are not censored, nor about to be censored I must have missed the entire Venezuela fiasco, or the United States engaging decades long suppression of communist activity throughout the world, or the leaks which came out which showed that American police departments do in fact target and isolate left wing individuals.
I think we're a while out from overt censorship of Marxist content as long as we don't produce spree shooters in the way polyps do, but the long-term incentives are there and as people find things through a few platforms that mediate everything through increasingly sophisticated algorithms, overt censorship is going to get less important than applying a few behind-the-scenes tweaks that make hitrates go way down to whatever they want.
>>675657 I wouldn't be so sure if I were you. Saber rattling with China might very well set up a repression wave against the "far-left" (I mean ffs Bolivarian socialists aren't even 'far-left' yet the Trump Administration tried to invade the fucking country). The online censorship is only a matter of time imo, I've been estimating that it'd happen sooner. Some channels only are on Youtube for example, which isn't a sustainable model of propagandizing at all (YT's history of DMCA'ing entire channels willy nilly for example).
>>675697 >I wouldn't be so sure if I were you. Oh, trust me, I'm hardly sure of anything! Least of all short-term political developments.

Samurai thread Anonymous 05/02/2020 (Sat) 21:32:37 No. 479407 [Reply] [Last]
Was the Meiji restoration and "restoring power to the emperor" a good or bad thing in 18th century Japan for the peasants? It marked the upper class revolution that caused the samurai feudal system to transition into a capitalist system. (Which ultimately turned into a racist imperialist empire that tried to invade and oppress all of its neighbors in Asia in a sort of fascist system, and as Japan lost the war the people starved and suffered greatly.) I just found this photograph btw. Samurai didn't look nearly as impressive as I thought they would, and that hairdo is "objectively ugly." There were a lot of peasant revolutions/movements that tried to go against the samurai but they all ultimately failed so no one except historians talk about them. Unfortunately too, the people who study Japanese history appear to be mostly weebs who romanticize the samurai so much that you never get to hear about the peasents' movements.
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>>665417 >>661994 How bout both
>>667096 >thatsnothowitworks.jpg
>>665417 >>661994 Technically this would go to >>>/hist/ if that board existed. Instead it should go to >>>/edu/
THE THREAD THAT WILL NOT DIE 🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵

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ITT: most retarded anticommunist "arguments" Anonymous 01/02/2020 (Thu) 12:04:34 No. 194067 [Reply] [Last]
For me as someone who lives in a post-Soviet country the most brainlet and anti-reality argument has got to be "COMMUNISM IS ANTI-CULTURE" My family still has shelves with 100s of books they got in the USSR, real books like obscure classical works or science ones. You CAN'T find most of them in stores anymore because they have been replaced with lowest common denominator schlock like 50 shades of grey or cheap fantasy novels. You have to go to a specialized library to find books you could buy at any bookstore in the USSR. Little surprise that the USSR used to be "the most reading country". Socialism built and supported theaters, museums, cinemas etc and most importantly it made them available to the entire population instead of a small leisurely elite. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to call the USSR the most cultured country in history if the criteria is the total number of people with access to "high culture" like classical music and theater. Don't even get me started on Soviet contributions to the art world like Prokofiev, Tarkovsky etc. Classical arts were preserved and promoted, folk culture was supported too. The only culture socialism "destroyed" was religion and culture of the ruling classes like decadent balls. That's what reactionaries truly bemoan. It doesn't matter that 99% of the population went from ignorant peasants to educated people who can appreciate intellectual and aesthetic pursuits, a few nobles couldn't have their shitty dances and lavish palaces all to themselves anymore, so CULTURE WAS LITERALLY DESTROYED!!11 You'd have to be completely ignorant of history and reality to say "socialism is anti-culture", or be a lying reactionary who by "culture" means "when you praise Jesus and kill nigs". It's especially annoying to hear this from Russian right-wing zoomers who know nothing but fortnite and low-brow americanized tv entertainment, and somehow blame socialism for this state of affairs instead of capitalist restoration.
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>>657662 hope someone btfo's the fag
The fucking "not real communism" "argument" is a apparently not true scottsman fallacy, but in reality it's a strawman. What they are saying is: "that cat is a dog". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EddX9hnhDS4
>>661401 One fallacy does not exclude the other.
>>653425 >a thread on Ceausescu a couple of weeks ago that mentioned this Huh how did I miss that, did anyone archive the link?
>>670473 >>646724 Bumping because I need this Yugoshit.

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ITT: leftypol funniest moments Anonymous 06/19/2020 (Fri) 17:53:45 No. 622870 [Reply] [Last]
not pictured because i don't have the screenshot: >that time anon made a post about trump being grown in a vat in somewhere france by the situationist to tank the us empire
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>>634587 >everyday is quite the opposite day fucking lel
>>661051 I don't get the humor
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>>629310 >there's a pic of her that gets posted sometimes. Pic related
>>631079 Man, remember when Mutualists were actually a thing?

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Anonymous 06/02/2020 (Tue) 16:41:07 No. 564481 [Reply] [Last]
what do the german anons here think of the german democratic republic ?
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It was good, not perfect, but nice to live.
>>564691 rhodesia was based and so was the DDR, fuck you
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>>675421 >rhodesia was based
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>>675421 >rhodesia was based and so was the DDR, fuck you
>>675421 >Equating Rhodesia with the DDR fuck both of you

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Mississippi Flag Redesign Thread Anonymous 07/03/2020 (Fri) 04:53:11 No. 662831 [Reply] [Last]
Apparently, Mississippi needs a new flag. Who better to make it than us? This is my first proposal. Remember, meme war may seem silly, but it is very important. https://time.com/5862506/mississippi-retires-state-flag-confederate/
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>>662977 God I hope they use a bad font, it'd be so funny
>>662874 >Japanese prefecture flags. OP looks much more like a UK county flag.
>>662874 >I never understood why these retards have a fetish for Japanese prefecture flags. cuz we are weebs/sinaboos
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>>662831 /thread
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>>663049 First flag of Oklahoma. It got changed after the Christian Socialist/Communists got BTFO'd to this cringe blue shit I refuse to post or recognize as real.

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