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Posadists Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 04:26:06 No. 353297 [Reply] [Last]
How are they the smartest posters on this board?
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>>355968 >reading is liberalism
>>353526 >>353526 >>353526 I'm one too, but rarely post and even then it's rarely more than a shitpost. I was more active in the 8chan days
>>353526 I have been the one that has been actively trying to keep our Posadist General alive by posting questions and bringing up interesting topics. But like you I am a unironic Posadist wanting to bring forth the ideology into a 21st century thinking.
/leftypol/ when they find out Posadas was a Trotskyst
They're not in denial

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Capitalism is at war with society Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 23:20:04 No. 358570 [Reply] [Last]
13 March 2020 https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/03/13/pers-m13.html?view=print >The coronavirus pandemic is developing into a social, economic and political crisis on a scale that is without precedent. Yesterday’s drastic fall in global markets and especially in the United States, where Wall Street recorded its greatest one-day loss since 1987, arose from the recognition that the pandemic will massively impact the world economy and profoundly disrupt the existing social order. Estimates of the probable scale of deaths from the illness are causing growing anxiety. The total number of confirmed infections worldwide is approaching 150,000 and rising exponentially, but this vastly understates reality. Due to the lack of adequate testing and the long latency period before symptoms, the actual number is far higher. The official death toll is now over 5,000, and the lives of countless millions throughout the world are in danger. >Italy is deepening its nationwide lockdown, with virtually all stores closed and streets emptied. German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said that 60 to 70 percent of the population will become infected, meaning that millions will require intensive care or die. Iran has reportedly begun digging mass graves as the epidemic spirals out of control. France is closing all schools and universities. In the United States, major public sporting and entertainment events have been canceled, and grocery stores have quickly run out of basic necessities. The coronavirus pandemic has exposed the inability of the capitalist system to deal with such a crisis. Governments throughout the world have responded with a staggering level of incompetence and disarray. No preparations have been made for an entirely foreseeable disaster. Health care systems, starved of resources, are overwhelmed. >The complete incapacity of the United States, the richest capitalist country in the world, to respond to this emergency is an indictment of a government and of the entire economic system. In his national address on Wednesday night, President Donald Trump epitomized the indifference of the capitalist oligarchy to the lives of millions of people. His nationalist diatribe placed blame for the “foreign virus” on China and Europe. >Trump’s speech came after weeks in which the president, focused entirely on the impact of the crisis on the stock market, proclaimed that everything was fine, that coronavirus was not a serious threat. He could not bring himself to express an ounce of sympathy for the masses of people in the United States and internationally who are seeing their lives upended. He announced no measures to address the absence of testing or the extreme shortage of health care facilities.

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>>362281 Just stay inside and wash your hands
<From the /crisis/ thread: After a certain point, you have to come to realize that the bourgeoisie don't act by accident, generally speaking. Their social class necessitates planning ahead to a greater or lesser degree. It might be as short as a week, next quarter, or some years, but the drive for profitability requires some degree of forward thinking. But what do we see but the boldest recklessness, even in the face of total disaster? Porky sits idly by as disaster after disaster rocks the world. They know what the cumulative result of this will be, and yet they persist. Mega storms flood cities, the water supply everywhere is being poisoned, and citizens are enslaved to pay debts that will never be paid off. This pandemic and economic disaster have been a long time in coming, and nothing was done to prepare for it. What we're seeing isn't a lack of a plan, but the plan itself. The US isn't dragging its feet on preempting the virus (only) because of incompetence, but because the results are desirable. It doesn't matter how many thousands or millions of people get sick, lose everything, and/or die, because that only stands to benefit the bourgeois down in their fallout shelters. Death, disorder, and destruction are what they want, because it makes it all the easier to tighten their grip and squeeze the working class for every sliver of lucre they have. It's an extermination. We are being exterminated. This is naked, open class warfare with the unabashed intent of profiting from the deaths of millions in the effort to secure their hold on society.
>>362536 We need this on a piece of agitprop
>>362281 Nah >>401131 As a poster?

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Anonymous 03/27/2020 (Fri) 21:10:27 No. 400986 [Reply] [Last]
>Capitalism is an unfair system, it rewards lazy investors who contribute nothing to work while stealing all the money from the real workers. We should end capitalism and give workers back their hard earned work. <Are you a Marxist, anon? >Sorry? No. I have no idea what Marxism is. Best way to radicalize normies.
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>>401024 A lot of people play lottery due to poverty to be fair.
>>401022 The worst "risk" the capitalist takes is that he goes bankrupt and has no capital. Do you have any capital? (No) That means the worst "risk" the capitalist takes is having to become a worker, like we already are.
>>401024 >>401033 You can expand it further. The rich can take that “risk” much more because they don’t have to face starvation if they fail. Much like how rich fucks over here can afford to buy thousands of lottery tickets at a time.
>>401058 They might be in debt if they took out loans for start up capital, which is retarded to do but it happens.
>>401084 Is a loan capital?

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Anonymous 03/26/2020 (Thu) 21:42:23 No. 398626 [Reply] [Last]
Redpill me on Mikhael Gorbachev. What does leftypol think of him? What were his intentions?
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>>400740 What are you talking about? I'm a Leninist. I'm opposed to the degeneration of the vanguard party into an oligarchy, not the concept of the party itself.
>>400618 >an actual proletarian democracy you mean a type of central organization that happens to be democratic
>>400733 Chernenko tried rehabilitating Stalin. Quite different ideologically and practically from those two.
You need to go back to Brezhnev era to fully understand what happened in the Gorbachev years. After the fall of Khrushchev and the counter-revolutionary revolts that happened in the Warsaw Pact the general goal of the Eastern Block was to "normalise" as this was the popular catchphrase of Czechoslovak leader Gustáv Husák. That basically meant that political discussions should not leave the boundaries of the one's kitchen and workers should not in any way shape or form resist market reforms since the Soviets weren't the superpower that it was once. The army wasn't the same that crushed the Germans as shown in Afghanistan or economically it wasn't constantly industrialising like in the 30's. There was only a warning from the rulers that even though situation was tough in the Eastern Block the people should be thankful to the government for not leaving them to capitalism with its uncertainties and the likelihood of becoming bankrupt and that "illusion" kept people from overthrowing the system. After Brezhnev old guard of the KPSU like Andropov and Chernenko tried things like centralising the economy by introducing large scale computer systems, focusing more on producing consumer goods or trying to rehabilitate Stalinism in order to stop the ideological stagnation in the party but they ultimately failed since each of them ruled for a very short time. Gorbachev in the other hand was trying to turn USSR into what at that time China was aspiring to be since he was at best a social democrat that wanted to liberalise the economy untill it stopped 5 mm's short of full capitalism and at worst a traitor that hated the very existence of the USSR.
>>400845 Sure. My statements were in respect to their economic policies (uskoreniye).

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Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 17:16:10 No. 357798 [Reply] [Last]
Did he create modern day radlibs/idpol liberals?
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>>358953 buttboy got that way from watching 1000 hours of obama's speeches in an attempt to basically become the white version of obama
>>357798 >The phrase "rainbow coalition" was co-opted over the years by Reverend Jesse Jackson, who eventually appropriated the name in forming his own, more moderate coalition, Rainbow/PUSH. Some scholars, including Peniel Joseph, assert that the original rainbow coalition concept was a prerequisite for the multicultural coalition that Barack Obama built his political career upon. Woke neoliberal capitalism is old https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow/PUSH
>>361100 On the one side he gathers the most attention from them, but simultaneously gains popularity by posing as the anti-"liberal".
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No but he did validate them

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Francis Fukuyama Anonymous 03/23/2020 (Mon) 01:29:50 No. 387822 [Reply] [Last]
What do you think is going through his mind right now?
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Fukuyama's end of history is gay. Who all you niggers should all be really looking into is Alexandre Kojeve, was a major influence on Lacan and Zizek https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/fr/kojeve.htm You can find his lectures on this very topic elsewhere Nigga was also on the NKVD payroll
>>399719 Based
>>399719 >The fact that he was a life-hating Russian at heart, a self-declared Stalinist, and a civil servant who played a leading behind-the-scenes role in establishing both the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade and the European Economic Community, should be borne in mind by all who wish to understand what Kojève was really up to in declaring the end of history. >This man was, in my view, a dangerous psychopath, who brought with him from Russia the same kind of nihilistic fervour that had inspired the Bolsheviks, and who took an exhilarated joy in the thought that everything around him was doomed. He could not set eyes on any human achievement without relishing its future ruin. He lived in a Götterdämmerung of his own imagination, wishing meanwhile to create the kind of post-historical, universal and bureaucratic form of government that would extinguish all real human attachments and produce the only thing he really cared for: the last man, the loveless and lifeless homunculus which he knew in intimate detail since he knew it in himself.
>>399927 Roger Scrunton was a brainlet
>>399927 Amazing how someone can pull so much shit out of one's ass.

40 hour work week Anonymous 03/27/2020 (Fri) 19:28:01 No. 400774 [Reply] [Last]
How many hours would a work week be under a communist country?Would it be 5 days a week, 8 hours a day or less?
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>>400774 4 hours a day is what the labor movement used to advocate for and then people just kind of forgot about it for whatever reason.
>>400821 my nigga, as it stands, it is unrealistic for any socialist country to adopt the 4 hour day
Technology and its advancements would beneficial to the workers instead of for the accumulation of capital. So with resources being dedicated to necessities and not overwhelmingly toward consumerism, the aim would be technological advancement for the liberation of society from labor and towards life fulfillment. Can't really predict the hours but definitely less than 40 hours a week.
>>400774 Productivity is so fucking high that we don't need to work more than 4hrs/day for 4-5 days a week

Hansenite Cultural Revolution Post, Name, and Shame pedos Anonymous 03/27/2020 (Fri) 18:33:01 No. 400668 [Reply] [Last]
For too long have honest effort posters toiled next to the unremittant degeneracy of thirsty pedos on this board. It is time comrades for a new purge, to bring back the glory and tragically tarnished repuatation of this once proud postspace!
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>>400718 But what if the child did consent, tho? >>400673 Ackshully, the bourgeoisie for children is me when I have five year olds working at my factory for 5 cents an hour making shoes.
>>400728 Of course comrade. For now just repost sus posts here. I'd imagine it's a fairly small number of users. We can pick out patterns in routine offenders, keep an eye on them and flag for mods once they break board rules. In addition to public shaming, and the threat of revealing too much. If they don't disperse right away, we can atleast quarantine the spam away from healthy threads.
>>400741 Good idea. We don't have this on??
So is this all an elaborate shitpost about gulaging anime posters, or are there people actively posting CP on here?
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>>400913 Rather it's an elaborate shitpost at discouraging softspoken pedos from spamming age of consent philosophy in general topics.

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Why is North Korea poor? Anonymous 03/26/2020 (Thu) 15:56:57 No. 397791 [Reply] [Last]
Obviously the standard answer is because they don't have a free market. However, the Soviet Union managed to develop without free markets just fine. The answers lefties would give is economic sanctions, but what exactly do they need that they cannot produce in Korea?
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>>400546 i have spoken to a lefty girl that have lived there , and you should rethink that ,if you are going to be born dirt poor or a poor women , then DPRK its better anything else cambodia is better
>>400577 I'm sure that it is better to be dirt poor in DPRK than in Cambodia especially as a woman. The fact that you don't have to sell your body is a huge point in DPRKs favor. My personal opinion, and I'm aware of my relative privilege here, is that I don't like Korean culture very much and that I find it hard to live under surveillance. Even China got too much at points, so North Korea would be a nightmare. But, yeah, that is from a spoiled Westerner POV.
>>400582 WE should not forget tha women dont have to be drafted for 8 fucking years on the army if they come from the lower classes ,but yes selling youself is a lot worse
>>400587 Being 14 years old and forced to sell your body to 40 year old sexpats so your family don't starve would be my worst nightmare.

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Hot take by Cristina Fernández, Anonymous 03/27/2020 (Fri) 00:53:39 No. 399093 [Reply] [Last]
>A statement from Cristina Fernández, Vice-President and former President of Argentina, in Havana, Cuba, February 8th 2020 "The great dispute that is being had today is who drives the capitalist process of production. In the American capitalist model, it is led by the market. In the Chinese capitalist model, it is led by the State associated with companies. In China there are 1.5 billion people, if the market was making the decisions, we wouldn't have the potent China we have now. The discussion rises by two complementary and parallel lifts: who controls the economic process, and what new representations we equip our constitutions with. The market choosing drives us all towards disaster, all the way towards climate disaster: the great discussion that is imminent."
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>>399506 State-capitalism is used to describe the German Empire and the Japanese both pre and post WWII as well as contemporary China. How does China differ form those two examples and how is it similar? Does a company like Huawei have obey the Chinese 5 year plans more closely than Krupp or Mitsubishi had to obey their governments' plans? Officially Huawei is not a SOE but it operations are part of the central plan. Huawei would prefer to rely on comparative advantage and continue to import computer chips from Korea or the US but the recent Chinese 5 year plans call for increased domestic autonomy in chip production so Huawei (and others) are tasked with developing those. They get sanctioned by the US and lose business as a result, while a purely chip importing company like Lenovo gets away with no sanctions. Following the government plan did not benefit them in the short run but will bring benefit to China overall in the form of chip production that they can fully secure and a new class of high value good they can export. Whether China is a different system then non-communist run state-capitalist countries is up for debate but I would say China maintains a greater degree of control over its enterprises than Germany or Japan did. >>399517 There have been many governments in the past that used Keynesian policy including the US, and most of western Europe before the late 70s. We do not typically call those countries state-capitalist. Maybe it is fair to say all state-capitalist governments practice Keynesian policy but that is only a necessary condition not a sufficient condition for state-capitalism. I certainly could not see austerity as a policy of a state-capitalist country though perhaps you could argue that austerity can only be enacted by state interference in the market and thus it must also be a perverse form of state-capitalism. A sort of anti-Keynesian economics.
>>399517 Not all state capitalism is Keynesian and not all Keynesianism is state capitalist. Singapore is state capitalist for example.
>>399515 Don’t you get it my dude? The key? The answer? Can’t you see??? We are in Hell, our world is ruled not by man but the old gods who enact their will through the drive of the market; hell, why do you think all cost-saving measures make human life and life on Earth worse? The market is the embodiment not of human will, but of the Old Gods’ wills, that’s why it came into existence to destroy the Polar Ice; the purpose of the Market was to awaken that which lies beneath the ice so they could rule the world once again. YOU BEST START BELIEVING IN CTHULHU MY FRIEND, BECAUSE WHERE WE’RE GOING WE WON’T NEED EYES TO SEE
In the American captalist model it is led by the Fed
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