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leftybooru Anonymous 03/08/2020 (Sun) 23:25:26 No. 336738 [Reply] [Last]
Why can't I upload to leftybooru? It says I have to be logged in or have permission to upload, but I can't log in because I am not registered there and registrations are closed. What's happening? Who is admin of leftybooru?
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>>371004 no it's not
Imma be honest, a TON of content is missing from the new booru.
>>401168 What content? Everything was mass uploaded.
>>401168 >>401995 Also the mass uploaded content is in reverse order so you have to go to like page 200 to see the last images posted on lefty.booru
>>371045 >Should we abandon the old booru? No choice, you can't upload or do anything. old booru broke

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convince me Anonymous 03/15/2020 (Sun) 15:23:23 No. 360095 [Reply] [Last]
I live in Leafistan, Canuckia. We have a few major ostensibly communist parties which are all shit. Let me list out a few, to give some context (and ftr, I have met representatives of most of these parties just last week). >communist party of canada they're dengists, first of all, and that's a no-go. I tried getting into their youth league last year and it was both incredibly boring and disappointing. Also, apparently they harbor chomos. >communist party of canada (ml) they used to be cooler. now they are cucked. their membership slowly shrinks in size from year to year, as all the boomers who joined in the 70s die off, and they never get fresh blood. I talked to one of these boomers and she hardly remembered what her own party's program was. >fightback socialism it's like Militant, but worse. they are always handing out the newspaper, and the only good thing is that they are the only Trots who give their newspaper for free. significant youth support, but also, very opportunist. >the spartacists their party has a name but I don't recall it, so I will just call them spartacists because they are. much like the MLs, they are all old. they charge a quarter for their shit paper. not interested. >socialist action TWO WHOLE DOLLARS FOR A PIECE OF PAPER WITH INK ON IT NIGGA

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>>360095 >they're dengists Are you actually supportive of any socialist country?
>>361745 >>361774 no >>401153 orgs? sure, I can handle that. but not parties. that is a misunderstanding of what a party is meant for. >>401226 yes. no country on earth today is socialist, wumao.
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>>401240 > that is a misunderstanding of what a party is meant for These parties, if they have a significant number of members, will contain active communists and potential new members of yours. To Arrogance can be a good tool to get one started, but these local commies are a lot more active than you are. It's also good just to keep a finger on the pulse of your local socialist action. >>401240 >no country on earth today is socialist Bruh. Cuba and the DPRK atleast, operate under a dictatorship of the proletariat, with a socialist government, the same could be said of China. Cuba and the DPRK also use a socialist mode of production. With the workplace and vanguard party in charge of organizing the economy.
>>401876 I don't want this thread to be yet another debate thread, because we can do that in other threads. you should understand that I am an anti-revisionist, closer to the former line of the CPC(ML). if you want, I do have this article https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/1960-1970/cuba.htm which expresses an anti-revisionist take on Cuba.
>>401880 >you should understand that I am an anti-revisionist, closer to the former line of the CPC(ML) I can see you are young and have a lot of enthusiasm about this op, this is important, I just think you need to be more pragmatic about this. Even Lenin himself joined a reformist socialist party initially, while forming a revolutionary one from within. Your principled political stance does not nullify you from your duty to do the groundwork with what you have available. It needn't by a different party necessarily, I'm only saying this because I'm detecting some dogma on your behalf. >an anti-revisionist take on Cuba. Jake here seems to miss the point of a dictatorship of the proletariat. Things may have been more under control of the vanguard party, rather then the workers themselves, during the 60's, but today cuba has arguably one of the most democratic systems on earth, with a commitment to a socialist line. The economy has a significant private sector, yes, but it is very much under the control of the party, and dominated by state industry. Notably a large portion of agriculture is carried out through private co-ops that have seen a great increase in productivity there, compared to centralized models used previously. In any case, cuba is socialist, and the other two I pointed out remain valid as currently existing examples of socialism today.

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Against Socialism and for Communism, or Communism-communism Anonymous 03/22/2020 (Sun) 04:46:03 No. 385084 [Reply] [Last]
If you live in any moderately computerized country, including most third world countries, you should be advocating for the COMMUNISM described by Marx in Capital and Critique of the Gotha Program, rather than for socialism. Cockshott has decisively proved that Marx's communism is 100% achievable RIGHT NOW, and has been for decades. Not only is this communism more "ideal," but it is also far more practical today than socialist half-measures. It carries none of the drawbacks of partial planning and partial marketization, money circulation in blackmarkets, mysterious accounting, etc that existed/exists in socialist countries. It is undeniably superior to capitalist markets in every way, with the ability to adapt and radically transform industry on the turn of a dime for any challenge. For example, in the current COVID-19 crisis, a new central plan for mass production of masks, ventilator machines, santitizer, etc would be possible to calculate in an instant, and people could be set to work on it immediately. Resources and supply chains could be immediately re-routed for people in quarantine, work hours cut and increased where necessary. Likewise, communist planning is the only way to defeat global warming, using a whole-economy five year plan to replace fossil fuels. This does NOT mean we should abandon our defense of socialist countries, but simply that wherever applicable, we should be demanding COMMUNISM NOW.
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>>385084 >>385090 >>385170 >>392593 >>392337 I erred in not emphasizing the benefits communism has over socialism for the working class and for revolutionary praxis. Communism is better than socialism for workers because it demystifies all of the accounting going on in the proletarian state and the economy. Bureaucrats hold little to no power when all of the labor times and accounting are freely available for perusal and the plans can be generated on the fly and inspected in detail. Whole-economy planning means elimination of unnecessary work time, meaning more free time for workers. Paired with communal online blueprints, source codes, and recipes, workers can make sure that the products they buy actually match their description (avoiding the problems of low quality in some sectors in the USSR). They can also educate themselves by inspecting the blueprints, and make proposals for improvements both in terms of the product and production techniques (such as improved workplace safety or more efficient coordination). Planned and accidental unnecessary obsolescence go away, and all products are higher-quality, with cheap shit removed from the market (no more shoes that wear out after a month, computers that become useless from keyboard dust, etc). Workers can decide collectively and somewhat individually on work hours, increasing and decreasing based on the need dictated by conditions. "Job" listings will be totally centralized and anonymized, with guaranteed employment, eliminating the months on end that workers waste job hunting. The public welfare sector gets all of these benefits and passes them on to workers in the form of healthcare, schooling, etc that is even better than in socialism, let alone capitalism. Communism is better than socialism for revolutionary praxis because of the ways it is better for workers and for efficiency. It is better propaganda. People today ask, "How would this be different from the socialist countries that collapsed? How will you address the problems that existed?" Communism gives us an answer. During a revolutionary period, it is of the utmost importance to quickly reorganize the economy to serve the working class, and to outstrip the capitalist countries in living conditions. We know that socialism is capable, but communism is even more capable.
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>>401264 I agree, this was a quality thread
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The problem is the rest of the world is still dependent upon capital accumulation as the basis for their mode of production. Even if we were to turn, say, Seattle, or, New York into a cyber communist utope it would still be reliant upon the exploitation of labor elsewhere. We need to abolish capital in all corners of the globe in order to free the global proletariat. That's why theory that revolves around localized revolution such as the USSR or Catalonia, or, The Paris Commune is important. Understanding how to grow and expand revolution is necessary to the overthrowing of the global bourgeoisie
>>401862 If we are talking about communist revolution in a developed country, such as the USA or Russia, it could be very self-sufficient and would probably still be able to trade with some countries such as China, Iran, DPRK, Vietnam, etc. There would also likely be simultaneous or rapid-succession revolutions if that happened.

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Quarantine Beard Challenge Anonymous 03/22/2020 (Sun) 04:51:34 No. 385094 [Reply] [Last]
Everyone knows that communists have to have great beards or facial hair. Therefore, for those of us who don't have a beard, quarantine is a great opportunity since we don't have to go in public while growing it. Increase your Marxism level by growing a beard in these trying times. Or at least a mustache.
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>>386187 >hipster what year you livin in boi?
Just shave my beard Gonna mantain the moustache tho
>>386438 saved >>386448 based
progress: my sideburns are kinda patchy not a fan of them and probably will shave them off after I've given the beard more time. however I think I can work with the goatee and mustache I'm growing.
>>401409 hey, same! I got inspired to grow my mustache and goatee by Lenin and Tupac. I started about a week and a half before quarantine and it's not done yet but it looks bad as a motherfucker.

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Anonymous 03/28/2020 (Sat) 01:49:00 No. 401614 [Reply] [Last]
>when you see a landlord
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>>401712 Nah, I meant that it's socialism with kurd characteristics as ba'athism is socialism with arab characteristics. Leninism is just Lenin's writings and argumentative talking points. >>401725 >>401758 Caleb is a weird person who reads Dugin to understand international politics. Communist parties in the mid east have really been largely forgein organized movements, with the the ba'ath being a domestic arab communism/socialism. >>401713 *chad face* Yes.
>>401852 Ba'athism is arguably social-democratic but that's the limit of it.
>>401863 Somewhat going off the rails here, but is that the real reason United States invaded Iraq? Because Ba'athism, aka a social-democratic system existed in Iraq?
>>401867 like... one can draw a parallel to the Venezuelan social democracy, which (like Iraq) threatened the petrodollar (I think). but the fundamental cause is the threat to the petrodollar.
>>401867 Because they started selling oil in a currency that wasn't the glorious US dollar. Thats it.

Anonymous 03/27/2020 (Fri) 23:44:01 No. 401428 [Reply] [Last]
Trying to make a list of demands for a rent strike. One of the people in the building has tested positive for Corona and half of us are now unable to work. What should I put on our list of demands and how should I put it? I've kinda been drafted to spearhead the thing. Keep in mind, my landlord had his mortgage payments frozen by my city.
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>>401617 Lol, wether it's illegal or not doesn't matter. Land lord isn't about to loose half or more of his tenants. Threaten to coof on him, OP
>>401622 >Lol, wether it's illegal or not doesn't matter. There might be resources at OP's disposal to tie up the landlord in legal red tape. It's definitely worth looking into. At the very least it could be used as leverage.
>>401470 large scale documenting fool proof from being destroyed. Show that landlord as the one that did this to you... the guillotine be out side his house in a week and the vids very good propaganda!
>>401622 If his landlord is more worried about losing the building outright than losing some future rent, he could go to more serious measures. It's not even certain he'd be thinking rationally. The point is that if the landlord does have the law on his side and isn't the negotiating type, it could get serious. OP should ask his fellow tenants about which demands to make, and then make a decision about what they're gonna do if the landlord goes on the warpath, however unlikely that would be. Not arguing against striking btw. It's the obvious choice if homelessness is the alternative
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Anonymous 02/10/2020 (Mon) 19:31:33 No. 269018 [Reply] [Last]
Memes Post all your memes. Don't hold out.
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>>391323 OP was undoubtedly a bad start.
Does anyone have the "four horsemen of gusano" takes?
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>>390633 >Cope: The Greentext Keep whining radlib

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Hey Seattle fags Anonymous 03/27/2020 (Fri) 22:16:08 No. 401159 [Reply] [Last]
Wondered if this should be in the USpol thread, but I figured its a specific enough local thing to warrant its own thread. I'm sure you all know about #TaxAmazon. Mama Kshama and Tammy Morales put forth a petition calling for the city of Seattle to immediately instate a $500 milion/year tax on the city's biggest businesses for a Covid-19 emergency relief fund for working people. This is not just a "coronavirus gibs" demand, we were calling for a similar tax before the pandemic to fund expansions of social housing in Seattle. If you live in the area and are a registered voted (and even if not), please consider signing the petition. http://bit.ly/CoronavirusRelief Also there's' a virtual town hall going on tomorrow with Mama Kshama, and other speakers like a union ironworker who still has to come into work during the pandemic, and a registered critical care nurse. 2 PM PST, tune in while you shitpost here. https://tinyurl.com/SEAsocialist
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>>401203 thanks cumrad

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You are now aware of the fact that Cuba is the only country with a working and functioning health system Anonymous 03/12/2020 (Thu) 20:57:41 No. 351709 [Reply] [Last]
Unlike in the Western countries where it was neoliberally economised to the ground, Cuba's is working. It's probably the only country in the whole world, where it does. Also thanks to the embargo, they get zero repercussions from the stockening, so another plus. They play it right, they might become the next superpower.
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>>393230 >Muh tourism meme considering how tourism has dropped for the past 3 years there... not really.
>>394823 They did before 2014, but Vz oil production collapsed so much it almost caused a recession in Cuba.
>>397693 Yeah tourism is an important source of growth for Cuba, most of its stable economy is agriculture.
>>397933 >this exactly >>397778 Sauce on that claim pls?

Jannies arbitrarily killing threads without warning or explanation Anonymous 03/27/2020 (Fri) 22:38:36 No. 401233 [Reply] [Last]
Unironically the fuck is going on? Jannies are going around killing threads for no fucking reason via bumplocks, they're also going into threads and fucking with them directly (like that one thread that had images removed). What the fuck is this nonsense? What's going on? Why the fuck are some of the only threads actually allowed on leftypol are the fucking cycling threads? Is leftypol officially some faggy anti-fun board now?
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>>401304 Can I ask how you keep killing threads almost instantly and mysteriously never have time to respond to users in the mod thread?
>>401311 I assume you mean the Poland thread? Yeah I don't think it should be bumplocked. Maybe don't call them subhumans and rather attempt a more materialist approach next.
>>401331 I though this was leftist politically incorrect I didn’t even call them “subhuman” per se Besides, I have to read white people write the word “nigger” over and over again every single day, I don’t bitch about it, suddenly I say something mean about some European nationality it’s a big fuckin deal? It’s hypocritical, and I was talking about the country and the fact that the people are anti-communist as fuck despite everything communists have done for them.
>>401337 I agree, and some other mod seems to have unlocked it.
>>401337 Uhm excuse me sweaty but me and my radlib jannie buddies have one of these bad boys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPNrHN83Bdk

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