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This is a Marxist-Leninist thread! Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 05:33:54 No. 902791 [Reply] [Last]
Yeah, I know it's hard to get over the fact that Lenin=Stalin, but still, it's a fucking fact. It's truth, lol. Yeah, I know it's hard to combat your own (((anglo))) ideology, but it's just a fact of history. Maybe, for a second be (((able))) to critique your own position. I know it's hard, but you can try. Stalin was, like, 80% based, and merely 20% cringe. Can you comprehend that, zoomer? Fucking Slavoj Zizek and Xi Jinping would agree with this assessment, lmao. It's almost as if you were illiterate or something. Still, I want you to these posts >>902122 >>902410 >>902607 and give me a single reason why you aren't LITERAL TRASH, lmao!
>incoming

Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 00:13:36 No. 902170 [Reply] [Last]
Is there any way I can drag my friend out of this "uwu i hate politics i like drawing and corgis uwu" without directly mentioning politics?
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mind your own business faggot
I would never think i would see Rick Owens on this website
if he is actually serious about art, he will eventually understand the economic position of most amateur artists. there is a reason why artists are generally stereotyped as being left wing.
Call them slurs. It is the accelerationist option.
>>902220 >to vote Niggеr do you know where you are?

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ITT: most retarded anticommunist "arguments" Anonymous 01/02/2020 (Thu) 12:04:34 No. 194067 [Reply] [Last]
For me as someone who lives in a post-Soviet country the most brainlet and anti-reality argument has got to be "COMMUNISM IS ANTI-CULTURE" My family still has shelves with 100s of books they got in the USSR, real books like obscure classical works or science ones. You CAN'T find most of them in stores anymore because they have been replaced with lowest common denominator schlock like 50 shades of grey or cheap fantasy novels. You have to go to a specialized library to find books you could buy at any bookstore in the USSR. Little surprise that the USSR used to be "the most reading country". Socialism built and supported theaters, museums, cinemas etc and most importantly it made them available to the entire population instead of a small leisurely elite. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to call the USSR the most cultured country in history if the criteria is the total number of people with access to "high culture" like classical music and theater. Don't even get me started on Soviet contributions to the art world like Prokofiev, Tarkovsky etc. Classical arts were preserved and promoted, folk culture was supported too. The only culture socialism "destroyed" was religion and culture of the ruling classes like decadent balls. That's what reactionaries truly bemoan. It doesn't matter that 99% of the population went from ignorant peasants to educated people who can appreciate intellectual and aesthetic pursuits, a few nobles couldn't have their shitty dances and lavish palaces all to themselves anymore, so CULTURE WAS LITERALLY DESTROYED!!11 You'd have to be completely ignorant of history and reality to say "socialism is anti-culture", or be a lying reactionary who by "culture" means "when you praise Jesus and kill nigs". It's especially annoying to hear this from Russian right-wing zoomers who know nothing but fortnite and low-brow americanized tv entertainment, and somehow blame socialism for this state of affairs instead of capitalist restoration.
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>>898324 >The majority of written literature does not exist online in archived or other format. Yearly reminder there are no technological reasons you can't have every book, movie, tv show, scientific paper, music recording etc etc right now at your fingertips for free if you are reading this post only the political economy and current law prevents this
>>898375 > no technological reasons Which is the point. The USSR was very well read and produced literature in massive quantities for low prices.
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>Why did the gas chamber doors have hinges that turned inward when bodies would pile up against the door as people tried to force their way out of the only egress point? Why were they made of wood Well since the Jews are on the inside of the gas chamber, and they panic and rush the doors, then they can't swing them open. That's why all exits for buildings larger than homes have doors that swing outside. Also push bars, so the force of the crowd would push them open. The Chambers were generally not made of wood. >Why were the Russians the only ones to ever find a "death camp" The Germans built their death camps on conquered Poland so they wouldn't have to import Jews in Germany, they wouldn't have to soil German soil with millions of dead bodies, and because it would be convenient for when they ran out of Jews and started gassing Poles. Kind of like how the United States builds it torture camps in Cuba and Iraq. >Why did the Nazi's kill in such convoluted ways when a bullet to the brain stem costs pennies? Gas was cheaper and faster while bullets were needed for combat. They even tried gassing by carbon monoxide poisoning from running truck engines, but zyklon B was cheaper still. However majority of Holocaust executions still involved gun-based executions by the Einsatzgruppen. >modern crematories can't even reach a fraction of that capacity taking 2.5 hours per body and how can so many be done over a short 2 year period Modern crematoria are designed to cremate individual bodies and return their ashes to their families, as opposed to the mass burning of large number of bodies. Now a question to pose to Holocaust Deniers, why was no actual Nazi a Holocaust denier during and after the war? This one simple fact shows that most of what modern deniers try to claim is a silly contrivance. From 1945 onwards, thousands of Nazis were captured and hundreds tried for their part in the Holocaust and other crimes against humanity. They tried to pretend they were someone else, they tried to pretend they didn't know what was happening, they tried to pretend they didn't have as much to do with it as others, they tried to claim they were just following orders and they tried to justify it as "the kind of thing that happens in war." But what they did NOT do was DENY it happened. Even men on trial for their lives, in the full knowledge they would be hanged if convicted, never stood up in the courtroom and shouted "This is all a lie! This is a fabrication! There were no gas chambers and no crematoria! I'M BEING FRAMED!!!!" On the contrary, they gave great detail as to precisely how they had helped build and helped run the mechanics of mass murder, some of them even seeming proud of how they had achieved something so complex and on such a vast scale.
>>194067 Communism is when taxes is probably the worst one I've heard
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>>194067 >most retarded anticommunist "arguments" <communism is sinful Rather obvious isn't it, still makes my brain rot and stomach churn just typing this out

"Knowing is Doing." By this criteria, how many of you are actually leftist? Anonymous 09/24/2020 (Thu) 14:59:50 No. 897793 [Reply] [Last]
I'm definitely not. I support Imperialism and Captialism and exploitative industries like porn and big Pharma
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>>898242 Simply being aware that you're a hypocrite isn't enough, anon Sometimes we need others to state the obvious for it to really sink in to our consciousness, YA FACKING BLOODY HYPOCRITE
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>>897793 Doin ya mom is knowing
>>897801 Based
I'll get involved politically when I'm out of college, I've read enough to know college students centering the movement around itself is what destroyed the left in the 60's and 70's. In this sense I am doing.
>>899146 BASED

Is there a material base for racism? Anonymous 09/23/2020 (Wed) 16:38:05 No. 893902 [Reply] [Last]
Is there any material reason for racism to exist today? As far as I understand, humans only appear as abstract quantities to capital (as labour power, consumer, etc.), there's absolutely no reason for skin colour to matter, and at least part of its ideological establishment tends to agree with this. Yet it undeniably still exists today. Is it just the remains of slavery, could capitalism successfully do away with racism? Under higher-stage communism racism couldn't exists as there's no privation, but is there any reason why it couldn't survive into lower-stage communism? Couldn't it even hold it back from fully transitioning to higher-stage communism?
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>>893970 because you are a faggot who denies reality. Thats all you commies are, and you all wonder why no one takes you seriously
>>899316 "Human nature" is not an argument, because literally everything we do is in our "nature". If a human acts against previous petty tribalism, is he acting against his "nature"?
>>894792 of course /pol/fags jerk off to BBC porn lmao
>>894058 What by him specifically?
>>893902 It does for the simple reason that it's useful for justifying imperialism.

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Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 01:21:16 No. 902371 [Reply] [Last]
our lord is an Effeminate femboy you can't make this stuff up
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>>902377 >Jesus has big Muscles that look like they are about to explode worth the watch
Can Jesus sit on my face? uwu
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>tfw when Jesus lets you fuck the holes in his feet
Jesus shits on my chest and I'm all like "Holy shit!"
>>902371 >our lord is an Effeminate femboy He does come quickly.

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PDF Beg Thread Anonymous 09/22/2020 (Tue) 22:47:47 No. 892342 [Reply] [Last]
Does anyone have a pdf of "Foundations of a Planned Economy, 1926-1929, Volume 2"? Not Volume 1, Part II, but strictly Volume 2. I have literally every other part of "A History of Soviet Russia" by E.H. Carr, save for this one, and its driving me insane. Every link to it is actually a link to Volume 1, Part II, and those that aren't are physical copies or paywalled (sci-hub does not work here). >inb4 just read "The Russian Revolution from Lenin to Stalin, 1917-1929" Also pdf request thread I guess
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>>901489 Even after loaning for 1 hour to 14 days some books still don't give you the option to download an encrypted pdf. I'm aware of the adobe digital editions method; otherwise I would've used it.
>>901493 Also I didn't read the rest of your post; I wasn't aware that refreshing the page quickly would bring the download links back. I'll have to try that.
>>899879 thanks so much
Not /leftypol/ but I wonder if that one french anon on /fascist/ ever translated George's Valois' work inb4 ban, Valois was a French socialist who started one of the first French fascist parties and then left it because it became too right wing (or he was too left wing) he would later work with the French resistance and died in a Nazi prison camp
>>899878 >>899890 Just wanted to say thank you for doing this, anons taking up their free time to rip books is truly an underappeciated charity.

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MARHAENISM PAKSIBAN 09/17/2020 (Thu) 07:21:28 No. 875349 [Reply] [Last]
Marhaenism is an ideology that opposes human oppression of humans and nations over nations. This ideology was developed by the first President of the Republic of Indonesia, Ir. Soekarno, from the thought of Marxism which was applied according to the nature and culture of Indonesia. Soekarno initiated Marhaenisme, namely to elevate the dignity of Massa Marhaen (another term for the Indonesian people), who had the means of production but was (still) oppressed. However, the meaning of Marhaen is also addressed to all groups of the small people in question, namely the peasants and workers (proletariat) whose lives are always in the grip of the rich and the rulers / bourgeoisie / capitalists. In essence, Marhaenism is an ideology of struggle which was formed from Socio-Nationalism, Socio-Democracy and Soekarno's Cultural Godhead. According to marhaenism, to be economically independent and free from exploitation by other parties, each person or household needs a production factor or capital. The form can be in the form of soil or machines / tools. In a modern context, vehicles, information technology devices, kitchen utensils and electronic goods can be properly empowered as capital or production factors. Even though it is not large, ownership of the capital itself is necessary to ensure the independence of the person or household in the economy. In contrast to capitalism, capital in marhaenism is not to be hoarded or multiplied, but to be processed to make ends meet and generate a surplus. Farmers plant to feed their own families, then sell the surplus or excess to the market. Tailors, craftsmen or laborers produce goods that they will partially use themselves, although the rest is of course sold. Ideally, these self-sufficiency requirements must be met before serving the market. This means that when a worker, craftsman or farmer produces goods that he will not consume himself, he only acts as a factor of production for other parties, which makes him vulnerable to being dictated by the market or exploited. As a whole (as a whole) in the marhaenism economic system, goods that are not / are not needed will not be produced, because each person / household must first ensure his own profile and level of needs before making anything. Innovations for the birth of new products will occur when the needs are real.
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I've asked some time ago indonesian people on Reddit about NASAKOM. Might share this here, they also talk about Marhaenism: https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/iclxr1/nasakom/
>>893511 >World peace, prosperity, stability, productive society, health society, global collective leadership. ACCORDING TO WHO? Don't trust what he said. He just another neolib. Fuck him & all bastards in Indonesia. Fuck 'em!
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>>893511 mfw after watched Jokowi speech
>>902086 >>902116 >>902146 Are you from indonesia? Or what is the reason, that you have such a strong opinion on him?

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Anonymous 09/25/2020 (Fri) 02:41:22 No. 899584 [Reply] [Last]
is racemixing praxis?
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Yes
>>899766 >UUUURRRGGGHHHH COOOOOOOOMIIIING
anchored for being a uighur
>>899644 What's this?
>>899644 would you raise the half cat-furry half human child as your own?

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The sino soviet split was the worst thing to happen during the cold war Anonymous 09/23/2020 (Wed) 17:17:19 No. 893990 [Reply] [Last]
Imagine if the sino soviet split never happened, I believe to some degree socialism would have spread much further and the cold war continue, but generally I believe we would have a had a better chance of total world revolution if there was never a sino soviet split in the first place, My mother country of Bangladesh we had a liberation war w/ the aid of the USSR, if the sino soviet split never happened, the communist parties (some allied w china some w the Soviets) in Bangladesh would have never fought against each other and thus be able to join the already socialist(ish) govt. w even the aid of china and USSR working together, either way in the next cold war there must NEVER be a geopolitical split again between socialist states if such are to exist in the future.
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>>897989 At best the soviet union was a blockage of capital to try and out survive it. At its worse it gives socialism a bad name and made it much harder to achieve.
>>898125 Stalin pbuh viewed the USSR as a bulwark against reaction
everything got fucked up when Khrushchev denounced Stalin. It broke the CPUSA as well. What would be stupid is to blame Khrushchev instead of Stalin for mismanaging shit in the first place.
>>893990 Hahaha that picture. Black Red Guard's going to make Stalin look like a damn anarchist
>>897944 How it was handled was stupid, the USSR could have made Cuba an impenetrable fortress with AA, airfields, radar, anti-ship missiles, heavy artillery guns and fortifications (heavy pillboxes like what the Nazi's Atlantic Wall) along landing areas the US marines could use. Make it about Warsaw Pact forces turtling in Cuba and the USA calling fowl over that rather then nukes. With it no longer being about nukes, the USSR then could have pointed to similarities to the Suez Canal and form a narrative that the USA threw British and French imperialism under the bus for "democracy" so it can grow the American empire while suppressing its compeition, in an attempt to split NATO.

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