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Facial recognition technology and identity politics Anonymous 08/17/2019 (Sat) 15:37:41 No. 31569 [Reply]
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/08/17/face-a17.html

By Kevin Reed
17 August 2019

>Recently published news reports and legal studies have revealed that the US government has been violating basic democratic rights by using facial recognition to monitor and track the public. These reports have also shown that facial recognition is used widely as a preferred form of police biometrics, i.e., the science of identification and tracking through facial signatures and other kinds of unique individual measurements such as finger, palm and voice prints and dental and DNA profiles.

>Every level of law enforcement—from city and state police departments to federal border patrol and military-intelligence—has been participating in the mass collection and analysis of facial images. This includes photos taken for government-issued ID cards and driver’s licenses and others captured from hidden surveillance cameras in public places such as border crossings, highways, parks, sporting events, sidewalks and airports as well as those scraped from social media accounts.

>Georgetown Law published a study on May 19 called “America Under Watch” which documented the widespread use of facial recognition by the city governments and police departments of Detroit and Chicago. As part of its conclusion, the Georgetown report said, “real-time video surveillance threatens to create a world where, once you set foot outside, the government can track your every move. For the 3.3 million Americans residing in Detroit and Chicago, this may already be a reality.”

>However, just as public outrage over these revelations had begun to emerge and several cities have been forced to ban the use of facial recognition—including San Francisco and Oakland, California as well as Somerville, Massachusetts—it became clear that the latest media exposures have a twofold political purpose.

>On the one hand, the most conscious sections of the ruling establishment are concerned about the explosive reaction of millions of people to unfettered 24/7 state monitoring of their activities and whereabouts. Therefore, significant political pressure is being applied to force Congress to adopt as soon as possible a federal regulatory framework for the expanding biometric surveillance apparatus.

>On the other hand, Democratic Party representatives and their supporters are using identity politics to conceal the serious implications of secret facial profiling and the trend toward a police state that it represents. By focusing exclusively on studies indicating race and gender bias in facial recognition tools, the Democrats are seeking to divert public anger away from a mass struggle by the working class in defense of democratic rights and into support for laws that will legalize the surveillance.

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>>33223
I was assuming it was an earlier one that got nuked
So you're literally trying to argue unspoiler my porn, because spoilering isn't working on an animated gif?

Get a job mate
>>33230
He's not the mod.
>>33230
I have a job but it's Sunday.
>>31571
Yeah, at this point might as well just strip at least.
>>33184
>no cares about my lewd cartoon mistresses
Weebs are truly the most oppressed class

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Comrade 08/07/2019 (Wed) 01:00:40 No. 13559 [Reply]
So what do we think about that Dayton bastard and his alleged twitter account?
Did he put that """""leftist""""" shit there as a red herring? Did he just VASTLY misunderstand leftist ideas?
Did he even post any of that himself?
Who was phone?
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>>13563
>his attack was racially motivated
Proof?
>>13692
Bankers are fascist confirmed.
>>14096
This guy is not on /leftypol/ if that's what you're implying. I've heard he's on left twitter like all the retards are.
>>33280
This is not a concern for us comrade, it's a concern for the fashie islamic and white supremacists shooters etc who are trying to claim they aren't mentally ill

Not a joke, think carefully and you'll see why

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Egoism Anonymous 08/17/2019 (Sat) 20:05:39 No. 32065 [Reply]
Does egoist anarchism actually exist or is it just a meme?
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>>32141
Marx was idealist
>>33185
It's not a movement, because Egoism is something you can only do yourself. Even when consider the Union of Egoists, it can take on any form without any ideological implications. As Stirner said a bunch of friends having a barbecue outside can be a Union of Egoists. And if they were going out on the streets and torch police stations, it would be because they are anarchists and not because they are egoists.
>>33310
Can you be an egoist without being an anarchist?
>>33313
Yes, absolutely. You can be pretty much anything while being an egoist. It's just when you properly despook yourself by reading the book carefully, you can no longer believe in things like the state or capital as a means to control people. You can only believe in yourself and your own power. Some flavour of anarchism is just what comes naturally to alot of people since their own liberation might be in their interest. Of course if you are a rich dude with a yacht and a mansion or whatever and you are totally content with your situation (which i doubt is possible but thats a story for another time) than you might as well still support capitalism, not because you believe in it, but because you believe it's in your best interest.

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Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 20:02:41 No. 26923 [Reply]
What would be the living standard in a communist world?
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>>27225
trade?
>>27225
Ignore the anarkiddie and read this >>10470
thread comrade
>>27225
Everyone would pitch in what they can, and take what they need. Products wouldn't be exchanged, they would be freely given.
>>27234
Not an anarchist, but the CNT-FAI got a lot closer to abolishing commodity production and the law of value than the USSR ever did. They even abolished money in some rural areas.
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Average lifespans under communism will exceed 100 years.

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Racism as an excuse for anti-Communist sentiment. Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 01:24:57 No. 26011 [Reply]
>muh dirty kimchi koreans
>muh unkempt gibsmedat negroes
>muh savage indigenous americans
>muh barbaric russians
>muh chinese bugpeople
>muh lazy europeans
>muh superstitious south asians
>muh muh muh
Christ, how often is it when you talk about "maybe we shouldn't put people in debt for being alive", and somebody butts in with "MUH OTHER RACES ARE GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR POLICIES!"
Look at this shit. LOOK AT IT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYYfg2tph3w
>comments: "Incan Socialism?"
>reply: "They never stood a chance against ambitious God fearing European entrepreneurs.The most important aspects of a capitalist system are private property, private control of the factors of production, accumulation of capital, and competition. God I'm so proud being white, Christian, and American right now."
I used to be a /pol/fag. I'm white. What the fuck is this shit?
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>>26011
>"MUH OTHER RACES ARE GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR POLICIES!"
Every single fucking time. I can't tell you how many people blatantly told me they would rather have zero social benefits than share them with minorities. Burgerland is truly a white supremacist shithole of ignorance.
>>26660
In fact, you can even shoot them in the foot, if you shoot the minorities in two.
bump
>>26011
how bad of a /pol/ack were you?

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Anonymous 08/16/2019 (Fri) 22:08:29 No. 30474 [Reply]
Would socialism have allowed history's biggest loser to have gotten into art school instead of becoming a rambling genocidal maniac for reactionaries for everywhere to aspire to be?
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>>30618
There was no indication that she was going to get killed and she had plenty of opportunity to escape and she was convicted which they definitely would not have done to rich pretty white girl unless she was clearly guilty. She was also just another willing member of his harem which disproves the assertion that if it were not for economic pressure females would suddenly care less for status as she was the opposite of destitute yet was willing to go even further for high status. This is natural but the opposite of "based" unless you are a high status polygynous male.
Lmao I guess there’s virgins with rage all over the political spectrum
Hitler had potential, he was a decent human being until he was 16, when his collapse into unemployment and homelessness made him obsessed with Jews. (Vienna had a long Jewish history spanning back 600 years but Hitler assumed that because the opera houses and other places of culture were owned by Jewish families this had to apply to all German cultural spheres.)

Then again, in Mein Kampf, Hitler talks briefly on the horrible conditions of the working class in Vienna, and he was in some ways knowledgeable on class struggle. If he had simply not taken part in the first world war as a German soldier and stayed in Vienna and fought for the Austro Hungarians, he would have never of gone to that DAP beer hall meeting in 1919 to spy on their activities as ordered by the German Army. He would have never of listened in and begin to agree to their words.
Most likely Hitler and the degenerates around him would simply be executed. There's always going to be scum being scum, the economic system doesn't make perfect societies.

It's pretty much confirmed though that Hitler was rejected because he wasn't a Jew. Admissions into any educational institution always involve the preferences of the administration, and they have pretty clear ideas of who they want and who they don't. It's the same in any system.

Hitler probably was the way he was because of his crappy home life, probably a genetic predisposition towards insanity, and the overwhelming attitudes of Germans at the time. (If not Hitler, then it would have been someone. Dude was bankrolled by big players in American and British finance specifically for the sake of anticommunism, and there's no way that money doesn't translate into street muscle. They could have found another degenerate like Rohm if they needed to, and Hitler wasn't even the most evil or craziest shitlord in the Nazi Party.)
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>>30517
The art school told him to go the the architecture school but he was a high school drop out so he didn't qualify and instead sent spam to famous artists hoping they would teach him.

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no portland antifa livestream, lynx, VLOG, nuthin Anonymous 08/17/2019 (Sat) 19:04:59 No. 31898 [Reply]
you larpers let me down again
I should become a gueriilla leader and kidnap girls
I should become a girl and kidnap guerilla leaders
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>>31905
>>31909
Become a napping kid and lead the girl gorillas
>>32960
Fuck that.
I'm a lead napping girl that'll become guerrilla kid.

R.I.P. OPERATION BLUEISM 08/18/2019 (Sun) 03:46:54 No. 32948 [Reply]
Aye I just wanted to say rip to my nigga OP Blueism, who tried to acquire cp in a false attempt to slander bat'ko, bad mouse, and mexie with as pedos. https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Operation_Blueism
>>32948
Wow what a shit site

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vampire castle Comrade 08/07/2019 (Wed) 11:28:39 No. 14796 [Reply]
The first configuration is what I came to call the Vampires Castle. The Vampires Castle specialises in propagating guilt. It is driven by a priests desire to excommunicate and condemn, an academic-pedants desire to be the first to be seen to spot a mistake, and a hipsters desire to be one of the in-crowd. The danger in attacking the Vampires Castle is that it can look as if and it will do everything it can to reinforce this thought that one is also attacking the struggles against racism, sexism, heterosexism. But, far from being the only legitimate expression of such struggles, the Vampires Castle is best understood as a bourgeois-liberal perversion and appropriation of the energy of these movements. The Vampires Castle was born the moment when the struggle not to be defined by identitarian categories became the quest to have identities recognised by a bourgeois big Other

For all the newfriends here, just know that leftypol is an ANTI IDPOL board. anti idpol does not mean pro racism, sexism, etc. but skepticism of intersectionality theory, post structuralism, post colonialism, etc. as idealist, non scientific/materialist and anti marxist. as well as practical concerns about the use of wokeoid ideology to justify terrible things like cancel culture, callout culture, and non white and/or 'native' ethnic nationalism including calls to ethnic cleansing

if you havent already, please read the lateRIP, great, Mark Fisher's 'exiting the vampire castle' which is an excellent takedown of IDPOL.

Other sources:

https://cosmopolitanmongrel.home.blog/2019/06/16/why-noncompete-is-wrong-on-identity-politics/
https://cosmopolitanmongrel.home.blog/2019/06/23/noncompetes-intersectional-idpol-part-2/
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>>15640
nice falseflag radlib
>>31484
dude that guy was banned like 2 weeks ago...
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>>31487
Addenda

Book CLub Comrade 08/08/2019 (Thu) 00:13:35 No. 16334 [Reply]
what are you reading /leftypol/?
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Finished If This Is A Man by Primo Levi a while back. It's a testimony on the Holocaust which obviously makes for a heavy read but it's worth checking out.
Currently reading pic related, a great Dutch book on the Cuban Revolution by a writer who visited Cuba in the 60s, that sadly hasn't been translated. I'm also trying to read Capital but no progress at all the last weeks.
Next up after the Cuba book will probably be Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.
>>16362
Skimmed through a Mises book on socialism once, I was expecting at least economic arguments (like bad ones but still related to actual economy), but it was literally filled with strawmen like "socialists just don't understand their boss". That man is a joke.
>>16344
Same here. Use Harvey's lectures, they're a great help. If you are in some socialist party or at least have left-wing friends you could also try to organise a real life reading group. Nonetheless I'm also kinda stuck in chapter 3. How far have you gotten yet comrade?
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Been Bumbling my way through The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State and finished Critique of the Gotha Program some time ago, it's hard getting into reading longform again since I got internet brain poisoning, but I'll get though it, and I thought I might get through it faster or retain it better if I shitpost about it

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