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/Leftytrash/ Anonymous 08/18/2019 (Sun) 11:04:31 No. 33290 [Reply]
No idea where the previous thread went so here's a new one
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>>33661
The news thread is mainly used for the discussion of headlines, not for more minor news or drama. That thread also isn't conducive to much discussion, as the thread tends to die after the day it's posted. For unrelated things that aren't worth a thread, there should be something else.
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>>33675
Now that the ERPers are gone we should sneakily bring it back and adjust the rules to prevent their reemergence.
It looks like only 23 users are on GET after the leftytrash split.
Not much has been lost.
The trash thread was a unnecessary piece of shit. Its good, that it is gone now.

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Potential European Recession Comrade 08/10/2019 (Sat) 14:10:55 No. 21881 [Reply]
So a recession in Europe looks pretty much unavoidable at this point
https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-italy-uk-are-headed-for-recession-and-ecb-is-out-of-tools-2019-8
>Three of Europe's largest economies — Germany, Italy, and the UK — are either in recession or are on the verge of it, which could spell danger for the eurozone.
>Germany, Europe's industrial backbone, is stuttering. The unemployment rate has risen for the second time in three months.
The UK economy contracted for the first time since 2012, as output fell 0.2% in April to June.
>Italy's debt crisis is only being made worse by political uncertainty.

>

Three of Europe's biggest economies are probably in recession — and the ECB is out of bullets
Yusuf Khan
Aug. 10, 2019, 03:03 AM
Italy soccer fan
Reuters/Jason Cairnduff

Three of Europe's largest economies — Germany, Italy, and the UK — are either in recession or are on the verge of it, which could spell danger for the eurozone.
Germany, Europe's industrial backbone, is stuttering. The unemployment rate has risen for the second time in three months.

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>>28946
year of the bug
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DPRK Brittany Venti is kinda hot...
>Brittany Venti posting in front of a DPRK flag

For what purpose?

Also, dumb bitch forgot to iron the flag
>>33691
Moar?
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>>28236
>muh export economy is good and isn't subject to crises of overproduction
I hope this line of thinking dies along with its counterpart of American consumerism.

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Is Marxism a perspective or something more? Anonymous 08/18/2019 (Sun) 18:38:36 No. 33663 [Reply]
I've long read that Marxism is a "tool" for understanding society however it seems many socialists interpret Marxism as the one way things are, not merely as one useful perspective. For instance, in Marxism the state was created to defend and maintain private property, but in a non-Marxist view it may be said that the state was created to provide for people's needs in an organized manner as well. Some leftists, however, seem to view the state purely or just about so in terms of Marxism -- that were it not for private property, in the previous example, then there would never have been a state, that Marxism is the only thing that applies. How true is this attitude in the example of the creation of the state, and how accurate is it in general to say that things practically never happen unless if for Marxist purpose? To what extent exactly are things about class struggle and private property?
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>>33712
no joke I used to know an actual real life leftcom a few years back. he was organized and everything and would get mad every time I called him an anarchist
>>33728
True, but you would say that you can explain the world solely in terms of mathematics (a logical science) or molecular biology (a physical science).
>>33684
>1.
What is that supposed to mean?
>2.
True. But to say there is nothing prescriptive about Marxism is not entirely true.
>3.
Well Marx supported capitalism when it fought feudalism.
>4.
Yes, but does that not contradict 2?
>>33710
True but you don't need to read Hegel to understand Marx, even though this meme is pushed to death by self-proclaimed Marxists and even Lenin himself
>>33732
The best way to get Leftcoms mad is to call them anarchists.

The state of Communism in India Anonymous 08/18/2019 (Sun) 06:02:35 No. 33040 [Reply]
So what's the deal with India?
There are like, a thousand different Maoist parties, there are guerrilla groups in the far north and south, and with China's proximity to them, it would be reasonable to assume that the country would be ripe for revolution. Why hasn't it taken off anywhere? Does anyone here live there?
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>>33609
This reads like a political anime storyline from the 90s. Good work anon.
>>33610
Nice job. Couldn't have summed it up better
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>>33610
P.S. it is quite ironic that much of neoliberal economic developments happened in the Coalition era. Those were however lower than those of China. It has resulted in a mentality in middle class that craves autocratic/authoritarian rule. You see, many Indian are under this impression that Hitler himself with his own hands brought the German economy back to glory. Most don't know about the actual economic policies, resulting in this myth of a great man who loved his nation and his people(he was a Austrian ffs). This has caused other distortions too, such as many think his rose from a humble soldier working hard to the post of General.
And since he had met with Subhas Chandra Bose and was fighting the Brits, many credit him for India's independence because he weakened the British Empire. They don't know what he thought of Indians.
Since we don't know about historical materialism, we buy into The great man theory of history, that we were a great civilization ruined by the muslims and europeans, that we must do what europeans did in order to become great again.
Which is why you see many Pajeets hanging out on /pol/ and /int/, trying to befriend the West so they can acquire the mentality of the master race. Communism means those days when we were allied with USSR instead of USA which impeded our transition to neoliberalism. And all those memes about muh gorrillon gulag prisoners, muh bread lines, muh equality regardless of merit have made many averse to actually reading the theory. They spew same memes you see posted by Red necks on twitter and repeat the talking points of American conservatives. Not to mention all that anti-SJW shit the meme savvy youth bought into.
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>>33619
Thank you. I am not an expert on the topic but I tried to bring the general overview of the Indian politics I know as a layman.
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>>33609
These effort post are very good. The whole thing doesn't seem anything unlike America, which has also spiraled into right-wing lunacy and retarded street brawls (see the Portland rally) since Reagan courted the religious votes in the 80's.

/30s/ Anonymous 08/18/2019 (Sun) 11:34:22 No. 33311 [Reply]
https://youtu.be/qKrsMMpYKNw?t=1411
just thought id share this footage of 1930s great depression era new york. at 23:31 they show a bunch of communists saying join the communist party, then it pans down and you can faintly hear them play the internationale(i think)
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>>33359
>Reminder they will attempt the same thing again during the upcoming economic crisis.
I can see that already happening. The media is trying to push Warren as candidate to calm down the berniefags(who might be very close to being radicalized), and she might also act as a deterrent in case of coming insurrection if the crisis hits next year.
>>33386
warren goes to the gulag too, along with her wine mom libtard fans
>>33360
Due to liberal education in high school most people instinctively think of stalin as russian hitler so it's to be expected. surprised there's so much support for mao tho
>>33464
They think he's worse than Hitler. Cause Hitler killed only 6 million, meanwhile Stalin killed 150mil
>>33469
I was in a college class on American history, and they were going over the end of WW2 and the beginning of the cold war. This "professor" went on to tell his students that Stalin killed 60 million of his own people and was also in charge of Mao, and basically a Georgian Cobra Commander. I pointed out that 60 million was over a third of the entire Russian population at the time and that it literally didn't make any sense, and then he went on to ramble about the kulaks.

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Lefty docos Anonymous 08/18/2019 (Sun) 06:44:29 No. 33073 [Reply]
Anyone got some good left leaning (read: communist) documentaries?
Other than Prolekult stuff, I don't know any other non liberal left leaning docos.

Oh and also post super obvious porky propaganda. That's always good for a laugh.
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>>33501
>Fascism is authoritarian capitalism XD
>>33504
>Weird twitter
>>33506
>>Fascism is authoritarian capitalism XD

it is tho
>>33507
So all capitalist nations are fascist, yeah?
>>33511
eventually

News 8/16/19 News Aon 3.0 08/16/2019 (Fri) 18:23:42 No. 30148 [Reply]
Russia, Venezuela sign deal on warship visits to each other's ports: Ifax
Russia and Venezuela signed an agreement on Thursday governing visits by the countries’ warships to each other’s ports, the Interfax news agency reported.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-russia-warships/russia-venezuela-sign-deal-on-warship-visits-to-each-others-ports-ifax-idUSKCN1V51PF

Brexit: Corbyn plan to stop no-deal meets resistance
Jeremy Corbyn's plan to prevent a no-deal Brexit by being installed as a caretaker PM has been met with opposition from key potential allies.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49359664

North Korea snubs peace talks with South Korea over war drills
North Korea has rejected any further talks with South Korea, calling its decision "completely the fault of South Korea's actions".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-49365771

Brazil: Supreme Court Judges Sergio Moro's Lack of Impartiality
Brazil's Supreme Court (STF) will judge the lack of impartiality of former judge Sergio Moro in conducting trials against former President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who has remained a political prisoner since April 7, 2018.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Brazil-Supreme-Court-Judges-Sergio-Moros-Lack-of-Impartiality-20190816-0002.html

Australian government boosts Special Forces despite war crimes charges

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>>30444
The handwriting in this looks like the sort of thing my 10 year old self had when writing letters to father christmas.
>>33479
Just because a revolution is in another countries interests doesn't mean it's a false one. Was the Russian revolution controlled opposition because it was in the interest of and supported by the Geman Empire?
>>30290
>hurr having a rifle is the warranty im a free man !
typical US retardation
go start a socialist militia and see how much use is your gun when the army come to disband you
>>30374
that's a fucking retarded take, what the fuck does people fucking has to do with class ? why people fucking more than one other people is a problem ?
>>33497
Chucking billions does not make them a military installation. The fact of the matter is that they would be a liability in any real war.

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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism Comrade 08/09/2019 (Fri) 15:54:13 No. 19862 [Reply]
Forse 8chan è definitivamente morto. Proprio pochi giorni dopo che stavo cominciando a pensare di ritornare a effortpostare, ecco che un paio di /pol/tardati ammeregani si danno allo sport preferito da quelle parti e ora quel sito sembra diventato la fonte di tutti i mali del mondo. Col risultato che hanno purgato anche il nostro bel filo. E vabè. Si chiude una porta, si apre un portone. Raccogliamoci qui e ricominciamo.
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>>23801
I'll put it very briefly for you: they are people who unfortunately escaped the shooting squad in 1945 and/or their children, grandchildren and so on.
This is a good approximation >>23807 but I would add that their rhetoric has almost always been really soft compared to other rightwing and fascist parties. For example, Salveenee and his party sound much more extreme and deranged in comparison.
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Primo: brutti finocchi, diamoci da fare e teniamo vivo questo filo. Non usate la scusa che state in vacanza, perché il nemico non va mai in vacanza.
Secondo: ma il Capitone la sta portando avanti per davvero 'sta crisi di governo o ha fatto solo una sceneggiata più rumorosa del solito? Da almeno un paio di giorni non vedo telegiornali italiani, ma per vie traverse m'è arrivata voce che chi conta davvero nella Lega (Giorgetti) stia raffreddando la situazione... Sbaglio o c'è del vero?
Terzo: secondo voi il loli-scandalo di Jeffrey Epstein (premere S) potrebbe avere ramificazioni anche dalle nostre parti o 'sta nazione è così sfigata che nessuno si prende manco la briga di tendere trappoloni a sfondo sessuale ai compradores di qua?
>>19864
Italian communists collectively deserve gulag for this meme
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>>31806
Fuck off. You can't even prove it started with some Wopanon.
Oh, però che delusione! Provo a rilanciare la discussione e l'unico che viene a rompere le scatole è uno che si lamenta per i meme di Bordiga...
Non c'è davvero più nessuno? Neanche qualcuno che indica come unica via il voto a Rizzo pelato servo della Nato?
Su, andiamo, un po' di vitalità!

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Anonymous 08/16/2019 (Fri) 01:16:45 No. 29402 [Reply]
what's your excuse for not being a bloomer?
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>>33383
>just do stuff
is beyond trivial you mong
>>33384
Versus doing nothing? Just kill yourself you absolute fucking imbecile.
>>33391
lmao how can one miss the point this bad
>implying you even had a point
>>29481
i read the ego book and to me it reads like exactly that

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Fredrick "Hotwheels" Brennan AMA Comrade Board owner 08/07/2019 (Wed) 12:02:41 No. 14886 [Reply]
By his request we are holding an AMA thread and sending him the best questions. He will not be answering them live but instead answer them in about a week.
Edited last time by stalin420 on 08/07/2019 (Wed) 12:04:58.
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>>25402
he never had a girlfriend
What did you think of the old BO and the change in moderation/board split? Where you even aware of it at all?
>>25403
No but he thought he did. Some people were impersonating Dianna ("The Physics Girl") and convinced him they were getting married.
>>25279
That's like saying if you give me free tickets to a concert and I get struck by lightning while on the way, that's your fault.
Has he answered any of these yet?

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