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Rules - Moderation Feedback - The Manifesto Anonymous Board volunteer 03/01/2020 (Sun) 15:47:06 No. 314001 [Reply] [Last]
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>>533356 You need to decouple your fee-fees from your rational understanding. I think this is the bare minimum entry-point of being taken seriously in communist circles. OldBO literally said previously that he was a theorylet when he started 8ch/leftypol/. I don't see how we shouldn't take his word for it! >he read a book or two I prefer sticking to facts. All we know is that he started reading after "being bullied into theory" (his words), we don't actually know HOW much he read or WHAT he read. These are the facts, mind you. >decided he was qualified to ban everyone First, this literally didn't happen, and you know it yourself. He didn't ban "everyone". He started banning by a pattern. We can argue back and forth whether this was justified or what-not, but that's a secondary thing to accepting the fucking facts. >the atrocities As I """prophetically""" said right after when we moved here: I believe that CurrentBO will have a similar point. He would either ban the "lefties" who start dominating the board (in favor for actual communists >>533325) or we'll become literal /r/chapo. This is just speculation, but it is not baseless. >he destroyed the board God createth, God destroyeth. ech-th
>>533420 >all whites are white supremacists your ban is justified, albeit for the wrong reason
>>533428 this is not just bad bait but annoying bait. take an L when you're given one, buddy
>>533239 ctrl+f >imageboard 0 results >anonymous online communities 0 results >autist wreckers 0 results >muh posts 0 results >jannies/janitors/moderators/imageboard volunteers/unwaged janitorial service 0 results get a better book.

Volunteer recruitment Anonymous Board volunteer 05/21/2020 (Thu) 18:12:33 No. 517839 [Reply] [Last]
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>>517839 I tried sending a mail, but the delivery keeps failing
>>527649 Sorry. The server of the email provider I use is down for some reason. You can either wait for the server to go back up or for comatoast to put his own email in the OP (I asked him).
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Set my email instead
I don't post often enough to bother, sorry.

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For New Anons and Lurkers: FAQ, rules, and reading list Comrade 08/05/2019 (Mon) 07:32:55 No. 8537 [Reply] [Last]
Guide for new Anons: https://bunkerchan.xyz/.media/72a78f39a9a53439bf2bdc6aeb272f7e-imagepng.png Groups: https://matrix.to/#/+leftychat:matrix.org http://steamcommunity.com/groups/leftypol http://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=leftypol Leftybooru: https://leftypics.booru.org/ FAQ: >How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect? /leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects on the left are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums might ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained. >I'm not a leftist can I post here?

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>>529802 Where is this from?
To those who've read older philosophers: have any of them proven to be "right" in any way?
>>532332 Some the presocratics were cool, like Heraclitus. IMO you should have a basic understanding of ancient Greek philosophy because later stuff is full off references to it, then skip most stuff that comes after. Real philosophy began with Hegel.
>>531562 >>529309 Thanks for the advice. I expressed my concerns more in detail here in /edu/, and I'd love a reply on my "project" >>1781

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/wg/ - War-zone General Anonymous 05/21/2020 (Thu) 01:00:35 No. 516651 [Reply] [Last]
>ITT - Arm chair military / political analysis - Posting about ongoing global / regional conflicts - Post ITT whenever something exciting of a military Nature occurs >Ongoing Conflicts of note - Libya (Active fighting and moving frontline) - Yemen (Near Stalemate) - Syria (Stalemate) - Ukraine (sporadic fighting / Near stalemate) - Afghanistan (Sporadic fighting / near stalemate) >Live update map https://liveuamap.com/ >Recent interesting events - Failure of a major LNA offensive in Libya has resulted in the GNA being on the frontfoot for first time in years with them forcing the LNA out of the city of Tripoli

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Big developments in Libya recently: a concerted operation of Turkish airforce targetting various UAE/Russian Pantsir air defences was so succesful it seems to have pushed Russia into withdrawing its entire PMC contingent. Meanwhile US has repeated its support fir GNA as legitimate govenment. I don't see the LNA recovering from this, seeing as how it's much more dependent on foreign support, now diminished. Finally a small victory for the watermelon seller.

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Anonymous 05/27/2020 (Wed) 02:15:28 No. 533429 [Reply] [Last]
What went wrong?
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>>533811 You're letting yourself get trolled by a guy who hardly writes a sentence. Some of us in Gringolandia are trying to counteract the propaganda where we can, although I don't think anybody outside of reddit and twitter glowies gives one flying fuck about Venezuela to be honest. Side note: Check out these terrible CIA B-roll actors.
>>533811 Extremely based for using Gringolandia Kkkkkkkkkkk
>>533446 It's actually way better than a lot of places in south america.
Why do you hate based things OP?
>>533821 on cue the white karen looking ass bitch with the savior complex over pronounces venezuela also >just let in UN aide bro come on bro try it we wont overthrow you promise just take our aid

Vaush vs Maupin Vol. 2 Anonymous 05/26/2020 (Tue) 20:27:34 No. 531954 [Reply] [Last]
Old thread got locked DEBATE TIME: 5 PM EST We will have it live streamed with a chat session here: https://cytu.be/r/MarxLGBTQPOCantifa 30 minutes from last edit PREVIOUS THREAD: >>531373
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>>533659 Money buys Commodities to sell for more Money
>>533813 >cope
>>533613 >guillotine memes aren't funny Take that back
Holy fucking shit. Try talking to any of the fuckwads in the comments on Vaush's video of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86j1xakYdZ8 I feel like I'm talking to a literal actual glowie trying to larp as a leftist.
>>532943 Yes? Source?

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Batshit insane bourgeois historiography and ongoing fabrications Anonymous 08/24/2019 (Sat) 02:05:43 No. 41063 [Reply] [Last]
Let's have a thread on the bourgeois historical falsifications of 20th century socialist movements where their older and contemporary hot takes are demonstrated. Screencaps from Le Blackie Book of Gobudisms :DDD posted with counter-arguments/explanations on how they manipulate would be very much appreciated. I bet there are anarchists here who can show us ancap/conservative/francoist examples of falsifying the history of Catalonia as well. Past or present stories, urban legends, fabrications, etc. about your own country's socialist movement perpetuated today would be also of interest. I would absolutely love, for example, to hear from an Indian or Turkish comrade how the bourgeois press falsifies their ongoing struggles.
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>>529743 STALINIST APE SUPERSOLDIERS ARE COMING FOR YOU But seriously, do people even have to ask if this is shit is real?
>>529750 yeah, but this is one of those rare things that both communists and anti-communists want to be true
"Comrade Stalin, our chimp spies have successfully infiltrated Washington with several active agents inside the Pentagon. So far the capitalists don't suspect a thing. Awaiting orders. Over."
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Why I am Racist Anonymous 05/27/2020 (Wed) 06:45:25 No. 533751 [Reply] [Last]
I realize now that systemic racism exists against black people on all levels of society and that that racism benefits me greatly. With this realization, I have come to realize that fascists and racists are not simply bigoted or stupid, they are actually correct. They are a hundred percent correct in fighting against minority rights to preserve their own. Any gain for minorities is a loss for whites. The fascists and the anti-racists can agree on that. I read Settlers and I have decided to side with my people. I won't be a useful idiot who goes against his own best interest. In studying anti-racism, I have realized that the divide created by colonialism and racism is too large and that the workers of all races to ever unite. If the black workers revolt, I will become a second class citizen or at the very least lose the first world life style I enjoy now. So instead I will fight for my position to be preserved and to further the supremacy of my race. It feels good to finally be winning.
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Fuck whitey Fuck chinks Fuck niggers Fuck jews Fuck native amerimutts Fuck indians Fuck japs Fuck anglos And most importantly... FUCK JANNIES that's all
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>>533814 posted by aboriginal australian gang only race that has resisted building any autistic planet destroying c*vilization
How many times will you nigga spout shit related to your shitty ass country? Every fucking thread here is always about American or british politics. For Christ's sake, neither of your countries can get any sort of communism. Both are the most reactionary countries in the world.
>>533807 Great post.
>>533823 go somewhere else if you dont want to be around amerifats or britbongs

J. Sakai Anonymous 05/25/2020 (Mon) 05:56:34 No. 527519 [Reply] [Last]
I just realized there's not even a single picture of this dude anywhere. There's like one audio interview from 2003, that's it. Is he even a real person or a glow in the dark persona fabricated to redirect the left from class struggle to race struggle for the benefit of global liberal capitalism?
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>>533699 Israel is a pretty easy example.
>>533081 This is dishonest. This is like when liberal feminists ask "do you think women should be treated with respect? then you're a feminist". I honestly disagree that white supremacy is the correct term, it misplaced the blame entirely, for one, on white people. It implies that white people need to be "lowered" in their supremacy so they are equal to everyone else (which would be based, but it's also impossible and vulgar accelerationist). It also diminishes actual real white supremacists, like the KKK and nazis, or many cops. I mean this is all semantics, and it is mainly important as a branding op since people don't read and get all their theory from slogans or memes. As leftists we need to understand the backlash of liberal feminism, like MRA. Black politics needs to be centered around class issues, and how those class issues affect black people more because of racism. >>527519 I was curious about this, I searched for scholarly articles written around that time that mention "white black proletariat" and was also searching for chicano nationalism articles around the time one of his interviews on the topic was made. I planned on cross referencing names to see if one stood out, but then I asked myself why I care and stopped. Foreigners have to understand that idpol topics are extremely important in the US. Every single thing has an idpol undertext. Your perceived race is always part of your identity. Also being LGBT is super important, even if you are among "allies" (which is also an identity). Liberals walk on egg shells all the time, and nobody can understand what the fuck is going on because they get their news from the television. I think people here really underestimate how absolutely insane the US is. It is a giant larp and it feels exactly how they describe the DPRK of being, as if everyone is scared of saying something bad, or if they're not scared, they are constantly virtue signaling saying the right words like "god bless 'merica". There are many normal people, but the insanity invariably seeps in to your inner circle, and you don't even notice since it's so prevalent. I once had the terrible experience of spending the night in the Dallas airport. There's a whole wing of the most gross dick sucking of veterans. It is so chock-full of dick-suckery it looks like those tacky restaurants with tacky trinkets and license plates on every inch of the walls. If that wasn't enough, they have 24/7 news on so many huge TVs you can probably see 5-6 from a single vantage point. I was lying there, on the disgusting paper thin carpeted floor, no blankets, no pillow, lights blaring in my face, no other person in sight, veteran trinkets everywhere, 5 TVs all on CNN just mildly de-synchronized constantly fear mongering of Muslim terror attacks or repeating the virtue of being american. There I was, drifting in and out of sleep, and in those moments of haze, the obvious insanity became apparent, an extremely surreal experience that I would have normalized had I not slept there.
>>533791 What nation do you live in where idpol topics aren't important?
>>533797 It's not that they are not important, it's mostly that they are not central. I've lived, traveled, and have friends in different countries. Every country/city has it's own problems, but no country feels as "uncanny" as the US. For example, racism exists in Mexico, but most people understand that their access to means is the biggest impediment in their lives, like being able to speak english, going to a good private high school or college, even stuff like having a car or your neighborhood's reputation has a large influence in your life and access to opportunities. There has been talk about classism and racism, which are trivially linked. But this rhetoric is primarily petit-bourg, and it is evident why, since it is pleading for equal superficial treatment of poorer people. The other big issue related to idpol in Mexico is feminism, but that is frankly very much deserved. Women are treated like shit and they are frequent targets of murders. Even one of the most important communist orgs, the PCM, has been actively harboring rapists. It's fucking disgusting. Basically, feminism in Mexico is fine, because it is desperately needed. There's a lot of petit shit tied to the feminist movement of course, but count your blessings I guess, a lot of women are very misogynist, so feminism is a progressive force which is supported by communists. This with slight modifications is true for other countries in LATAM. In Russia, idpol was basically non existent, except for the nazis who were met with resistance by anti-fascists and just random people who would beat them up. My impression of Germany was that racism was important, mainly because of immigration, but nobody gave a shit about someone being LGBT for example, even when there were pride flags and other LGBT symbols. There aren't a lot of gay-centric businesses compared to the US because everything is just mixed in the amorphous club culture and nobody really gives a fuck about your sexual preference. The leftist scene had talks about anti-fascism, imperialism, and neoliberalism, nothing particularly cringe. I could say the same thing about Spain. The US is just fucking nuts. Like if you're in NYC, you'll see people dressed up in hassidic jew clothing, orthodox priests walking around, crazy inbred nuns (I have no idea what that was to this day), people in suits with the tacky MAGA hats. People are just really really bizarre, self-righteous, and soooooo many of them are mentally unstable. One striking feature of the american psyche is the protagonism. It feels as if everyone thinks they are the main character of their own movie, and their lives have an elevated sense of importance for no reason. A lot of them victimize their existence in a tragic-heroic way because that is a way to cope for the bad shit going down in their lives. Of course not everyone, but jesus christ.
>>527519 This is the only interview I've ever been able to find with him and it's from 2003 https://youtu.be/t3p2xf8NdRg

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United States Politics - /USApol/ Anonymous 05/26/2020 (Tue) 19:10:57 No. 531727 [Reply] [Last]
100,000 deaths edition https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ What's Next: Democratic National Convention - August 17th Republican National Convention - August 24th Ongoing - Democratic veepstakes Now with livestreams! CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFE Last thread >>373171
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https://twitter.com/CarlosGphoto/status/1265455823700070401 >The scene at the Minneapolis 3rd Police Precinct.
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>>533799 a white supremacist spotted!
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>>533734 >Goddammit, I know have to move past this but when I survey the desolate future we are facing I get deeply angry at Sanders for not meeting his very serious responsibility to *play to win*. Sanders loss represents the final defeat of the millennial Left. There are ways we can rebuild but first you have to accept that this is actually a massive defeat. Sanders is a person that never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. I wouldn't actually be surprised if the popularity of socialism tanks when people find out what AOC and Sanders did to put their tax money in the pockets of the super-rich.
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>>533806 Third one was covered everywhere. That's not even the funniest part of that saga. A reporter asked if he was going to still take it despite the health risk, and he said: >Well I think the regimen is finishing in a day or two So he didn't stop taking it because everyone was chastizing him. The regimen was just coincidentally ending in "a day or two. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDDLAY3QKM0 He lies like he's 6 years old or something.


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