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/survival/ - Survivalism, Preparedness & Cost-cutting Anonymous Comrade 01/13/2020 (Mon) 20:48:34 No. 5280
ITT post practical survival, self-sustenance and cost-cutting tips, not utterly useless political/macroeconomic/philosophical theory (that you will never be able to implement anyway because you are just plebeian on the internet, not part of the ruling class) and whining that you see on /leftypol/ The target audience can range from scavenging hobos to minimum wagers to landowners with no mortgages.
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The below food products are some of the cheapest in the market. Some can be consumed without cooking, some can be stored without a fridge, etc. Flour (to fry) + canola oil Canned tomatoes Peanut butter Powdered or evaporated/canned milk Dried beans Canned beans Lard Potatoes Carrots Milk Veggie prices vary by area, you figure it out For example if you were homeless/in the wilderness with just a backpack, you would carry peanut butter, canned tomatoes and powdered milk, in that order of nutritional importance. If you had a stove but no fridge then you would have flour, canola oil, canned tomatoes and powdered or evaporated milk. If you can spend a little more, cook some dried beans into the mix for extra protein and fiber. Rice is overrated, don't waste your money on it, bad nutritional value per penny, carbs are unnecessary for survival. Even the North Koreans are smart enough to realize that rice is shit for nutrition for the amount of labor and resources it takes to produce and so they switched to potatoes as their main staple food: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_production_in_North_Korea https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-aug-09-mn-64015-story.html https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2018/11/103_257928.html The three most important RDI values for survival in the short-term are calories, fat and protein. Absolute minimum for the average person's survival (ie. not healthy in the long term) are 1000 calories, 22g of fat and 12g of protein. If you want to be "healthy" in the long term you should be consuming at least double (44g, 24g), and obviously all the necessary vitamins and minerals. Usually it takes longer to die from vitamin or mineral deficiency than fat or protein deficiency as the body relies on and depletes the latter much faster.
>>5280 Nice beet there, when the shit comes I will steel all your vegetable. That's my strategy.
>>5283 Unpolished brown rice is a good source of fiber https://www.livescience.com/50461-brown-rice-health-benefits-nutrition-facts.html And unless you are in a bug out situation where you have to carry everything you own on your back then brown rice is well worth having. Also cracked wheat and rolled oats are also great sources of fiber.
If you want to make a salad you must first implement a 5 year economic plan
>>5283 I'm better off so I can actually buy meat, but I know a lot of my friends suck at buying food from stores. Some tips: - Canned stuff is very expensive if you can make it yourself. Dried beans, chickpeas, lentils last a long time. When they get small insects, you can still cook and eat them no problem. - Beef, read meat is very expensive. Always avoid. - Chicken and pork is the way to go for meat protein. You want to get the fattiest pork at the cheapest price, which depending where you're from, the fattiest is the cheapest. - A lot of vegetables don't last long, you want to really avoid throwing away food. Potatoes last, tomatoes don't. Plan accordingly. - Avoid instant ramen. Shit's not good for you and you're better off cooking something cheaper and more nutritious. - Avoid dishes that are primarily meat, so mix meat with other stuff. Think stir fry, or rice udon, or chickpeas with meat. Space out your meat so it lasts longer. - Fuck milk, that shit spoils too quickly. Probably not that good for you. - On that note, avoid all juices. Pure sugar, expensive, not worth it. - Butter tastes delicious, but burns easily and is expensive compared to other oils. Use wisely. - Buy spices, itll make cooking the same ingredients less boring. - Chickpeas are great. Consider making a shit ton, it takes a full day of soaking in water before putting them to cook. - Lettuce, cabbage and similar vegetables are very low in caloric value but they can also be very cheap and make for good filler to whatever you're cooking. These become ugly rather quick, but they're still good to cook with (unless they're actually rotten). - This might be ridiculously obvious to some, but expiry dates are more like suggestions to watch out. Trust your nose and your sight. Beware of rotten bread.
>>5365 Also, this guy makes really good cooking videos. Really simple, no bullshit, proletarian cooking videos. Although he keeps bullshit to the minimum, he still manages to make them entertaining. https://www.youtube.com/user/ltdan1504 He won't show you how to make fancy shit you can't even find the ingredients for. Anyways, highly recommended.
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>>5367 >Channel Trailer: "That guy who said avocado toast is pricing millennials out of homes was right actually."
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The smartest survival strategy I can think of is to set up a collective farm, it can start as a community vegetable garden/coop and function as such indefinitely, but it can also be an insurance policy in case shit hits the fan, and if that happens then the farm can expand , people will quit their day jobs and work the farm and everyone will get to eat. And having a larger group means that your community can afford to have specialists who don't farm, you can have guards/police and a medical center and/or a repair shop and/or a library. In essence you will have all the building blocks you need to rebuild society, rather than just survive. and the good thing about a plan like this is anyone can buy into it both before and after a disaster. Anyone who works can eat.
>>5540 >it can also be an insurance policy in case shit hits the fan, and if that happens then the farm can expand , people will quit their day jobs and work the farm and everyone will get to eat. >implying that when "shit hits the fan", being in or near populated areas will be safe
>>5283 What about honey?
Sometimes I wish I could run away into the woods. Settle in an abandoned house, possibly in an abandoned village. Eat what I gather and what I catch, also go out and buy food and medicaments occasionally, but as little as possible to save money. Occasionally I'd have to return to the "civilisation", of course, and work a couple of months at some shit job to get some money for the food and to pay for the internet (although there may be no need for the latter if I manage to catch someone's wifi with some long-distance antenna). I've been told electricity can be stolen from power lines unnoticed, and that it actually is done quite often in this country. While water is quite a problem. Non-potable water can be got from e.g. some well or a river, while potable... it isn't likely that I would find a drinking water spring near an abundant house which also has an electricity line in the vicinity, so I'd probably have to but that too, and what's yet worse is that drink very much, like 6 liters per day, so that'd be quite a cost. I do understand that this is pretty much unaccomplishable, since I don't even have any of the skills needed. And while snaring doesn't seem to be that hard, and learning to tell edible berries from poisonous ones might be feasible, I don't know how I can acquire the skills needed to cut connect to power lines on my own.
>>5595 bad, it's just gooey sugar

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