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/occult/ Anonymous Comrade 09/09/2020 (Wed) 16:29:15 No. 15967
Share your knowledge, beliefs and opinions on the occult.
Spirituality is immanent. What cannot be explained is what lies within noumena. Nature is cyclical and maintains an equilibrium. Divergences in cycles are the Will to Power/the Epicurean swerve which constitutes history and new cycles. Capitalism reifies the death drive. Communism constitutes an affirmative, striving philosophy. Communism will lead to machine singularity.
>>15967 I enjoy reading spooky stories and have a vague belief in ghosts. Don't believe in anything else occult.
>>15971 shut the fuck up
>>15967 We already have a MBTI/Jungian psychology thread.
Order of 9 Angles are best/worst occult group. Their ideology creates occult spies
>>15967 Fun to read about, ultimately all false. Nazi shit is interesting to read about. They were really into it, even though sections of the party were embarrassed by it. >>15971 Damn, son. Last time I read this much word soup without meaning, I was reading Bookchin.
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>>15982 >Order of 9 Angles are best/worst occult group. Their ideology creates occult spies True, even right wing terror groups complain about sinister o9a infiltration: https://www.thedailybeast.com/satanism-drama-is-tearing-apart-the-murderous-neo-nazi-group-atomwaffen I doubt if these groups will have much meaningful effect on the world, though . A few kids who would have otherwise got into Goth music before reliably embarking on a career in the bank, banged up instead and their lives ruined. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/national-action-trial-terrorism-nazi-miss-hitler-pageant-court-a9274371.html A better option, if you have to join a group I suppose you might be lonely, and an anonymous image boards might not cut it are The Temple of Set. (It's probably the only Left Hand Path group which isn't full of neo-Nazis.) They set out their underpinning philosophy clearly. It's Cartesian dualism i.e. a strict mind/body split. Which does unfortunately lead to a kind of creeping monotheism by the backdoor. Specifically, ToS promoted Set, an interesting but specialist god in the Greek magical papyri of antiquity, into an overaching god of "consciousness" , and separation from the "natural order". After a while of reading their reworkings of the occult from various cultures, you'll get used to re-reading the phrase " this must be synthesised in the Black Flame" (of Set.) Still, when it comes to occult groups, the best of a bad bunch and certainly worth reading a bit by: https://archive.org/stream/LeftHandPath666/Uncle-Setnakt-s-Essential-Guide-to-the-Left-Hand-Path_djvu.txt Pic unrelated
Is there a repository of books for people interested in the occult?
>>16010 Harry Potter.
>>15967 Waste of time; atheism is the only sane choice for spirituality.
I think there's a monster under my bed
>>16015 atheism is shallow plebbit consumerism
>>15967 I kind of want to get into Occultism/Paganism for fun but at the same time I'd probably end up really believing in it and sacrificing a homeless person to the Morrigan in a ritual knife fight or something There are some very weird people in my area, there was rumours and a couple pics of some people doing some weird dance/sermon thing in a forest near here a few years ago, but the boring kind where they were all wearing raincoats and had food after instead of dancing naked
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>>16010 Try looking into list related
Hey, I don't barely have any knowledge about the occult. What can studying the occult offer?
>>16120 >What can studying the occult offer? The same as religion really. It's part of a general search for meaning. Science is good at explaining why things exist, in terms of other things, but not why things exist at all, rather than nothing Also occultism offers access to a deity or deities to ask for what you want. Whether prayer or spells work is a different matter, but you can test it. The difference is religion tends to rely on "faith" . Occultism in theory doesn't, but a legit criticism is practitioners tend to err towards self-deception when it comes to standards of proof.
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>>16007 >>16152 >Satanists in the CIA and US military >Temple of Set Founder Michael Aquino literally a "Lieutenant Colonel, Military Intelligence, U.S. Army" who worked for the US Empire in the colonialist war against Vietnam, specifically in Operation Phoenix, the CIA torture/assassination/terror campaign https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy3.htm >extensively documented evidence of rape and murder of children on U.S. military bases that's covered up by Rudy Giuliani https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy3.htm >>16159 >"b-but there's pedophiles in the Catholic Church too!" And? They need to be brought to justice also.
>>16179 >"b-but there's pedophiles in the Catholic Church too!" >And? They need to be brought to justice also. <B-but all the same, let's not spoil the Satanic abuse narrative. Let's look at it systematically. >cooked up conspiracy theories >blame sinister fringe groups >deflect blame from a wider problem >imply the minority group is emblematic or responsible for the wider problem Even the Pope's at it. https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/25/pope-blames-clergy-abuse-on-satan-as-activists-dismiss-his-speech-a-pr-stunt-video
<In 1983, Judy Johnson, a mother in the middle class suburb of Manhattan Beach California, accused her husband and a teacher at the McMartin Pre-school of molesting her son. <The mother, who was later found to be schizophrenic17, also accused workers at the preschool of bizarre crimes and witchcraft. <Regardless, the local chief of police sent a letter to the parents of children at the preschool letting them know about the allegations and asked that they questiontheir children to see if they might also be victims. <Several hundred children from the school would be questioned by therapists from the Children’s Institute International, using methods that are now widely discredited. <The children were asked leading questions, repeatedly. Many were coerced into testimony, and seem to be telling their therapists what they had wanted to hear. All children had their testimony taken at face value, even ones who are clearly too young to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Watching interviews that aired on television, or reading “warning signs of Satanic abuse” that appear in therapist and parental guides, one gets the impression these therapists have never actually been around children. That excited, reality blurring way in which small children talk about media they enjoy is taken not as the fanciful imagination of a child, but as reality. The grounds of the preschool were dug up in search of tunnels after one child testified he’d “been flushed down a toilet to a dungeon.” <But to someone with experience with children, this sounds like a small child describing a level of Super Mario. <This sort of evidence would appear again and again in Satanic abuse cases. Children at the McMartin school testified that not only were they sexually abused (sometimes with knives and swords), they saw their teachers fly, murdered animals, and a sacrificed a baby to Satan at a church. <They also claimed to have been filmed. Despite the lack of evidence, the owners and several teachers at the school were arrested and charged with three hundred and twenty one counts of child abuse on forty-eight children. No evidence of tunnels, child molestation, pornography or sacrifice have ever been found. The trial lasted for three years and was the mostexpensive in American history. All defendants were found not guilty or had charges dropped due to a lack of evidence. Sadly, they were the lucky ones. <News of the McMartin Preschool accusations and the lengthy trial were widely covered in the media, which lead to countless other allegations around the country. Most famously a babysitter in Florida, a daycare in Texas (also instigated by a mentally ill mother with similarly wild claims), and in Arkansas, where three teenage metal heads were accused of the Satanic murders of three children. These people, and countless others who’s crimes only made local news, spent decades in prison for impossible crimes. Those who raised doubts, whether in the media or the general public, were thought to be hiding something and in some cases brought investigations on themselves, in classic witch hunt form. https://dc.uwm.edu/rsso/2019/panel2A/2/
>>16007 >>16179 >>16192 >>16193 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c1XjRHweXc Hmmm, one of the most disturbing, disgusting ongoing government sponsored crimes in history, and this video is basically the only one and it has less views than a nickleback cover band with bad audio. Totally normal, not like this event is the only one that could single handedly take down most western countries, namely the US.
>>16192 >pope blaming satanists for pedo abuse imagine being catholic
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>>16192 >le it was just a Satanic panic with no proof! >>16193 >le there was no real evidence! it was just a witch hunt, prole! https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy4.htm "Rarely has such a strange and little-understood organization had such a profound effect on media coverage of such a controversial matter. The [False Memory Syndrome] foundation is an aggressive, well-financed PR machine adept at manipulating the press, harassing its critics, and mobilizing a diverse army of psychiatrists, outspoken academics, expert defense witnesses, litigious lawyers, Freud bashers, critics of psychotherapy, and devastated parents.” Columbia Journalism Review, July/August 1997 If there's anyone who can relate to the sentiments expressed by the Presidio and West Point parents, it is the mothers and fathers of the children from the McMartin Preschool – and there are literally hundreds of them. The McMartin case was, of course, the largest and most well-publicized of the multi-victim, multi-perpetrator ritual abuse cases that sprang forth in the 1980s. It was also a case that was grotesquely misrepresented by the media, both mainstream and 'alternative' – perhaps nowhere more so than in the appalling writings of Alexander Cockburn, the allegedly ‘progressive’ Warren Committee apologist. Cockburn went so far as to write an op-ed piece entitled “The McMartin Case: Indict the Children, Jail the Parents,” which ran in The Wall Street Journal on February 8, 1990. Virtually everyone agrees that the children of McMartin were victimized, the only debate being whether that victimization was by abusive caretakers or by overzealous therapists and prosecutors. Either way, Cockburn’s stance on the case was unconscionable, and should have sent a clear signal to the progressive community that there was considerably more to the McMartin allegations than met the eye. The harsh reality is that the McMartin Preschool, in conjunction with at least two other Manhattan Beach preschools and one babysitting service, was the center of a massive child prostitution and child pornography ring whose operations were protected and covered up by any number of local, state and federal officials – or so it would appear.
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>>16192 >le it was just a Satanic panic with no proof! >>16193 >le there was no real evidence! it was just a witch hunt, prole! https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy4.htm A glimpse of the true nature and scale of the McMartin case is given by an official correspondence from Sergeant Beth Dickerson of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department to Agent Ken Lanning at the FBI Academy Behavioral Sciences Unit in Quantico, Virginia, dated February 10, 1985, and reproduced in Larry Kahaner's Cults That Kill: “In August 1983, the Manhattan Beach Police Department began an investigation regarding allegations of sexual abuse occurring at the McMartin Preschool ... Altogether, approximately 400 children were evaluated by therapists at Children's Institute International. All interviews were videotaped and 350 children disclosed sexual behavior ... “In all, the victims named seven teachers (six women and one male) at the preschool as having molested them. These individuals are currently charged with 209 counts of child molestation. Also named are about 30 other individuals still uncharged, as well as numerous unidentified 'strangers.' “McMartin victims allege sexual abuse occurred on school grounds as well as at a local market, churches, a mortuary, various homes, a farm, a doctor's office, other preschools and other unknown locations ... “Most children state they were photographed in the nude ... They mention drinking a red or pink liquid that made them sleepy ... Children disclose animal sacrificing (bunnies, ponies, turtles, etc.) and some of this occurred in churches. Victims describe sticks put in their vaginas and rectums and also being 'pooped' and 'peed' on. Children say that the adults sometimes dressed in black robes, formed a circle around them and chanted. “In May 1984, another preschool investigation began in the same policing jurisdiction stemming from a McMartin victim who identified the Manhattan Ranch Preschool as a place where he was taken and molested ... additional children have begun disclosing sexual abuse (approximately 60) and they have named six or more additional suspects ... These children talk of strangers coming to the school and molesting them, being taken off campus and molested, being photographed nude and some talk of animals being abused. The children talk of being hit with sticks and of being 'peed' and 'pooped' on ... “[T]he resources of the police department and the District Attorney's office were not sufficient in order to follow up on the multitude of uncharged suspects in both preschools ... The Task Force became operational on November 5, 1984. It should be noted that the Task Force has two other preschools under investigation for alleged sexual abuse in addition to McMartin and Manhattan Ranch. One, the Learning Game Preschool, is clearly linked to McMartin.”
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>>16192 >le it was just a Satanic panic with no proof! >>16193 >le there was no real evidence! it was just a witch hunt, prole! https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy4.htm An astounding total of 460 children reported being sexually abused at the three closely-linked Manhattan Beach schools. Even more astounding, investigative author Michael Newton (among others) has noted that Children’s Institute International determined that: “a full eighty percent displayed physical symptoms, including vaginal or rectal scarring, anal bleeding, painful bowel movements, and the 'anal wick reflex' associated with violent penetration.” The stories told by the victim/witnesses were remarkably similar as to the nature of the abuse, the locations where the abuse took place, and the perpetrators of the abuse. And these were not, as is commonly believed, all preschool children telling these stories; some of the witnesses were former students in their teens and twenties, and their stories corroborated those of the children. The older witnesses were not allowed to testify at the McMartin trials, however, as the statute of limitations for the crimes committed against them had expired. Many of the younger witnesses were unable to offer testimony as well, for various reasons – most notably because they were too severely traumatized. Even so, as author Jan Hollingsworth has pointed out, prosecutors had at their disposal “more than a hundred child witnesses as old as eleven and a truckload of medical reports bearing documentation of scarred genitals and anuses.” The stories told by these children, it should be noted, were not fed to them by some diabolical team of therapists and headline-seeking journalists. Many of them were offered spontaneously to hundreds of parents and scores of childcare specialists. And the victims of the McMartin Preschool, all adults now, still tell the same stories today.
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>>16192 >le it was just a Satanic panic with no proof! >>16193 >le there was no real evidence! it was just a witch hunt, prole! https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy4.htm While anyone suggesting that the allegations in the McMartin case were true - and that a massive cover-up concealed the true nature and scope of the case - is likely to be labeled a 'conspiracy theorist,' the most preposterous conspiracy theory surrounding McMartin has always been the notion that some cabal of overzealous therapists was able to implant 'false memories' of heinous abuse in the minds of nearly 500 individuals, and have them persist to this day. Despite the vast number of eyewitnesses - most of them bearing physical evidence of abuse - and despite the fact that the judge who presided over more than a year of pre-trial testimony ruled that the state had more than enough evidence to proceed to trial, District Attorney Ira Reiner inexplicably dropped all charges against five of the seven defendants in the case on January 17 of 1986. Six days before that, he had summarily dismissed two prosecutors on the case. At least three dozen other suspects who had been independently identified by numerous witnesses were never indicted at all. One of these was a man named Robert Winkler, arrested in neighboring Torrance, California for running a baby-sitting service out of the Coco Palms Motel that authorities described as a front for a sexual abuse ring. Children in the McMartin case recognized Winkler in news footage as the man they had known as the 'Wolfman.' The kids described Winkler as being a frequent visitor to the school, delivering drugs for use in abusive rituals, which were sometimes conducted in churches, a cemetery, or a crematorium. The Wolfman, conveniently enough, turned up dead on the eve of his trial, allegedly of a drug overdose.
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>>16192 >le it was just a Satanic panic with no proof! >>16193 >le there was no real evidence! it was just a witch hunt, prole! https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy4.htm Winkler wasn't the only one to miss his day in court in conjunction with the McMartin case. Judy Johnson, the first McMartin parent to lodge a complaint, turned up dead before her scheduled testimony as well. When her body was found sprawled naked on the floor of her home, her death was said to be due to complications from her chronic alcoholism. She was also derided by defense attorneys and their media allies as a mentally unfit crank. In truth, Johnson was not known to have any mental problems - or a drinking problem - prior to learning of the unthinkable abuse her child had suffered. Considered a key prosecution witness, Johnson received frequent threats prior to her death and was followed when she ventured out in public. Many of the other McMartin parents were openly skeptical of Johnson’s stated cause of death. A former Hermosa Beach police officer named Paul Bynum, who had been hired by the parents of victims as a private investigator, turned up dead on the eve of his scheduled testimony as well. His death by gunshot was ruled a suicide, though those close to Bynum dispute that finding to this day. Among other things, Bynum may have testified about his examination of the tunnel excavation project conducted at the school site. This was, of course, the object of much derision by the media. The fact that the children repeatedly told stories of tunnels under the property by which they could be secretly transported to and from the school, and in which they were subjected to unspeakable abuse in a secret room, was frequently cited as ‘proof’ that the children's stories were fabrications.
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>>16192 >le it was just a Satanic panic with no proof! >>16193 >le there was no real evidence! it was just a witch hunt, prole! https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy4.htm It was universally accepted that the tunnels did not actually exist, that being the consensus view of the media and law enforcement authorities. But while it is true that the investigation commissioned by the District Attorney's office found no evidence of tunnels, one of the dirty little secrets of the McMartin case is that the tunnels did, in fact, exist. Many of the parents were not satisfied with the ridiculously superficial examination by the DA’s office, and commissioned another investigation of the site when the property was sold in April of 1990. To lead the project, they hired E. Gary Stickel, Ph.D., a highly regarded archeologist recommended to them by the Chair of the Interdisciplinary Program of the Archeology Department at UCLA. Stickel had served as a consultant to Lucasfilms on the Indiana Jones movies. Also brought on board were several other technical specialists. As Stickel wrote in his report on the excavation: “By engaging a highly recommended professional archeological team, [the parents] hoped to bring scientific authority to whatever might be found or a definitive resolution for whatever was not to be found.” And what the team found was precisely what the children had been telling them they would find for the previous seven years: “The project unearthed not one but two tunnel complexes as well as previously unrecognized structural features which defied logical explanation. Both tunnel complexes conformed to locations and functional descriptions established by children's reports. One had been described as providing undetected access to an adjacent building on the east. The other provided outside access under the west wall of the building and contained within it an enlarged, cavernous artifact corresponding to children's descriptions of a ‘secret room.’ “Both the contour signature of the walls and the nature of recovered artifacts indicated that the tunnels had been dug by hand under the concrete slab floor after the construction of the building ... Not only did the discovered features fulfill the research prequalifications as tunnels designed for human traffic, there was also no alternative or natural explanation for the presence of such features ... “If the stories of the children were bogus fantasies, there is no excuse for the tunnels discovered under the school. If there really were tunnels, there is no excuse for the glib dismissal of any and all of the complaints of the children and their parents.” This investigation was completed before the McMartin trials had concluded, yet this devastating evidence was never presented in court by the prosecution. The existence of this report, complete with photos and maps of the tunnel complexes, was known to the local and national press, but it was never reported. To this day, it is denied that any tunnels ever existed under the McMartin Preschool. The denial of the tunnels is necessary to maintain the illusion that the children were not credible witnesses, that illusion being essential to the cover-up. For if the children were credible, the implications run far deeper than the tunnels under the school. There is, for example, the stories told by the children of being pimped out as child prostitutes in private homes and businesses all over the community.
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>>16192 >le it was just a Satanic panic with no proof! >>16193 >le there was no real evidence! it was just a witch hunt, prole! https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy4.htm They also spoke frequently of being photographed and videotaped while being abused. District Attorney Robert Philibosian publicly declared the McMartin Preschool to be an elaborate front for a massive child pornography operation. Twenty-three parents filed a civil lawsuit making the very same claim, one that appears to be strongly supported by the facts of the case. Other stories told repeatedly by the children are even more disturbing. They told of being forced to witness and participate in the ritual torture, killing and mutilation of animals and, on occasion, of human babies and children as well. They spoke of being forced to drink the blood and eat the flesh of the slaughtered corpses, of witnessing the beheading of infants, and of being forced to stab infants themselves. They told as well of being sealed in coffins with the mutilated corpses. And they spoke of being subjected to every sort of depraved sexual activity imaginable, including necrophilia, copraphilia and bestiality. The abuse was of such stunning brutality that it is almost beyond human comprehension that anyone could inflict such physical and psychological torture on children. And yet these stories were soon being told by thousands of other kids across the country as preschool abuse cases spread like wildfire. Young children from all walks of life, and from all parts of the country, all telling remarkably similar stories of horrific ritual abuse – how was this possible? If they were all victims of 'false memories,' how vast a conspiracy would be required for therapists all across the country to implant the very same memories in all of these children?
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>>16192 >le it was just a Satanic panic with no proof! >>16193 >le there was no real evidence! it was just a witch hunt, prole! https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy4.htm Experts have noted that the victimized children show a level of knowledge that defies rational explanation if the kids have not experienced what they claim to have experienced. For instance, these child victims can accurately describe the look, smell, texture and colors of human viscera. This is an ability, it has been argued, that very few adults possess, other than those who have been trained as surgeons or coroners. These children also display a remarkable level of knowledge of a wide variety of human sexual practices, including many bizarre acts that, again, most adults do not have knowledge or awareness of. If these children did not experience these things firsthand, then how did they gain such knowledge? In February of 1985, Officer Sandi Gallant of the San Francisco Police Department submitted a report to her superiors noting the similarities in numerous ritual abuse cases. She had gathered evidence from fellow officers and police departments across the country and summarized the evidence referenced in the police reports submitted to her. An excerpt from her report reads as follows: “The information contained herein is distasteful and bizarre, to such a degree that one would choose to discredit it. However, research that I have done in this area has revealed that numerous cases of this type are surfacing around the country and in Canada. The similarities in the stories of each child victim used in these crimes tend to give credibility to the information revealed by others. Additionally, the psychiatrists and therapists who have been treating the victims state that the consistency of the stories and the explicit details revealed cause them to believe that these children are telling the truth. It is also the belief of each law enforcement officer who submitted information for this report that the victims are being truthful and that, in fact, children would be unable to make such stories up. “During my research, similarities began surfacing which indicate the strong probability that there exists a network of people in this country involved in the sexual abuse and possible homicides of young children. These cases appear to differ from isolated cases of abuse towards children in that the crimes mentioned here have been committed with one common goal in mind – that of mutilating and murdering children for ritualistic or sacrificial purposes. Many of the cases reported also reveal the possibility of child pornography beyond the normal type of ‘kiddie porn’ in that these children are photographed during rituals with some members in robes or other garb and candles, snakes, swords, altars and other types of ritualistic material being used.” Gallant had requested that the report be sent on to the chief of police for him to review and forward to the FBI. Following his review, however, the chief declined to submit the report. Gallant also tried to get the U.S. Department of Justice to review the paperwork, but she was - not surprisingly - rebuffed there as well.
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>>16192 >le it was just a Satanic panic with no proof! >>16193 >le there was no real evidence! it was just a witch hunt, prole! https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy4.htm As for the McMartin case, there has never been any question that the children there were horrifically abused. Though rarely noted in press reports, the jurors were clearly of the opinion that that was, in fact, the case. The hung juries and acquittals were the result of the jury members’ inability to identify the perpetrators of that abuse, which they attributed to the inept presentation of the prosecution’s case. Another notable fact about the McMartin trials is that the defense was allowed to subject the child witnesses to the longest pretrial hearing in the nation’s history. Facing a battery of as many as seven rabid defense attorneys, the already severely traumatized children were verbally assaulted for weeks on end in a deliberate attempt to break them. The state made little effort to protect these young victims. Also rarely noted in the reporting on the trials is that the matriarch of the family - Virginia McMartin - admitted on the stand that one of her own granddaughters believed that her children had been molested at the school. McMartin, by the way, had achieved semi-celebrity status in the childcare field. In the mid-1960s, she had traveled to New Zealand, Australia, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and England to visit preschools as a consultant.
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>>16192 >le it was just a Satanic panic with no proof! >>16193 >le there was no real evidence! it was just a witch hunt, prole! https://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy4.htm In the final analysis, the logical conclusion to be drawn from the McMartin case is that 460 kids did not conspire to all lie about the abuse they suffered. They also did not likely lie about their involvement in child prostitution and child pornography. They certainly did not lie about the tunnels under the school. They also did not lie about their forced involvement in satanic rituals, in which adults sheathed in black ceremonial robes uttered chants. In fact, at least one such robe was seized from the home of a defendant. And, perhaps most tragically, there is good reason to believe that they did not lie about the blood sacrifices either.
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>>16193 >No evidence of tunnels have ever been found. Archaeologists excavated the site of McMartin PreSchool and found the tunnels exactly where the kids said they would be. But no, It was "all made up". The excavated tunnels at the McMartin PreSchool were confirmed to exist in Pages 47 to 49 of these declassified FBI documents on the Finders Cult: https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders/the-finders-part-01-of-03/view Here is a video presentation of the photographic evidence of the excavated tunnels at the McMartin PreSchool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YLpvKAR5fA If the stories of the children were "bogus fantasies", there is no excuse for the tunnels discovered under the school. If there really were tunnels, there is no excuse for the glib dismissal of any and all of the complaints of the children and their parents.
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>>16227 >If the stories of the children were "bogus fantasies", there is no excuse for the tunnels discovered under the school. <Parents hired former FBI agent Ted L. Gunderson, who worked as a private investigator, and archeologist Gary Stickel to aid in the dig. Gunderson claimed he found a “subterranean opening, ” under one classroom, and another underneath a bathroom. Gunderson said that the “tunnel” may have been dug by a utility company, according to the news service UPI. <The McMartin Preschool building was torn down on May 29, 1990. Investigators had used sonar trying to detect “soft spots” under the building’s foundation, which possibly could indicate hollow areas, according to the Los Angeles Times. However, no conclusive evidence was ever found at the site. https://www.oxygen.com/uncovered-the-mcmartin-family-trials/crime-time/did-mcmartin-preschool-tunnels-exist
>>16227 What....The....Fuck....
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>>16227 <In 1990 an archeologist was hired to determine whether tunnels had existed under the school because some of the children had alleged that some of their abuse took place in tunnels under the building. The archeologist’s report was issued in 1993. It concluded that evidence of back-filled tunnels had been found. This critical analysis of the archeologist’s report concludes otherwise, that what the archeologist found was actually the filled-in remains of a rural family’s trash pit that pre-dated construction of the school. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.5210/bsi.v12i1.77.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwicgeLppezrAhXJTMAKHRFnDD0QFjABegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1WqnhOoqoBnpf0dBZetQpt
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>>16227 (me) Forgot to post the 2nd video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B6yfmeqSxM >>16233 Also, check out "Conspiracy of Silence" here >>16194, a 1994 documentary about the Franklin PreSchool Murder/Satanism/Child Abuse cover up that was supposed to air on the Discovery Channel but was pulled from the air at the last moment (gee, that's not suspicious at all).
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>>16239 We had our own '80s Satanic panic in Blighty, summarised in this review by Wildcat journal in' 91: http://wildcat.international/w15-moral-panics.html Meanwhile... children *were* being abused by people in positions of power, but they weren't part of a Satanic underground. Jimmy Savile, broadcaster and friend of Prince Charles, was helped by mates in the police: <for more than 20 years, serving and retired police officers had been among those attending Savile's so-called Friday Morning Club meetings at his penthouse flat. Dan Davis, "In Plain Sight: The Life and Lies of Jimmy Savile" From the biography it seems he was a macabre character, liked to work in a hospice when he was a kid to be around the dying, wore a ring made from an eyeball stolen from a mortuary, and was maybe even a necrophiliac. But there's nothing in the book about him being a Satanist, or involved in occult groups. Cyril Smith, the Liberal MP was protected as well. But it wasn't as part of a Satanic network. He was allowed to get away with it because he was in a position of power: <There has clearly been a significant problem with deference towards people of public prominence, from the Whips’ offices to the police and prosecutors, although the investigation found no evidence of an organised paedophile network at the heart of government. https://aboutmanchester.co.uk/cyril-smith-was-protected-from-prosecution-in-a-number-of-ways-says-child-sexual-abuse-inquiry/ If you're already powerful and can get away with crimes, why would you need Satanism?
>>16235 >This critical analysis of the archeologist’s report concludes otherwise, that what the archeologist found was actually the filled-in remains of a rural family’s trash pit that pre-dated construction of the school. I knew "Satanic Tunnels under a Daycare" story was bullshit. People who are obsessed with this high level pedophile shit are just ragging narcissists, 99% of all pedophilia happens in you neighborhood and is done by your neighbors. If these people really though pedophilia was the most heinous crime ever they'd do something about all the kiddie diddling going on around them.
>>16342 >If these people really though pedophilia was the most heinous crime ever they'd do something about all the kiddie diddling going on around them. You'd have to actually be aware of that to do anything about it. Are you suggesting people randomly bust into their neighbors' homes to check if there's any pedos afoot?
>>16458 If wanting society to take care of the ill, including people like joker, makes me a leftist then sign me up
The FBI document is just one of many documents given to the FBI by others. Being included in the archive does not mean the FBI says "tunnels were there," it just means a third party submitted a document which claimed the tunnels were there (and they weren't).
Also why is the shitdump that makes up most of this thread still allowed to exist?
>>16651 Posts have been of variable quality, but that's like most threads. Too many thread deletions and people won't bother posting.
>>16120 tbh it's probably all aliens
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pls don't delete this thread yet, gang. i absolutely must study all this stuff
>>16662 m8 just screencap the postsand put them where they belong: >>>/leftypol/702127
>>15967 It's fun. Don't take it seriously tho.
I am a pagan ama
>>16667 are Aryan Hindus the pagan master race? was blavatsky right? was manly p. hall right? did it all come from the egyptians who got it all from the Mayans who got it all from Atlantis? is manly p. hall a spook?
>>16667 did you notice that Hitler lost the war but did manage to kill a lot of Jews, which may have been the only real objective of him and his friends like goering and himmler. i have a lot of respect for pagans and paganism but i personally think that all religion is a spook and the entities posing as gods are aliens deceiving everybody. what do you think of this?
>>16667 forgive me, i know that blavatsky, manly p. hall and hitler are all more topics for occultists than pagans

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