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CAPESHIT MOVIES Anonymous Comrade 07/23/2020 (Thu) 17:59:46 No. 12563
This is the capeshit film thread Discuss capeshit I'll admit I hate Marvel films, first off they're some of the glowies films out there, every single one fellates the Pentagon. The plots are almost all identical, filled with general pro-porky propaganda. The jokes are overdone and stale, literally Adam Sandler humor. The CIA is shit for such expensive productions. The characters are getting stale. Fuck these movies, death of cinema shit piles.
>>12563 I don't think I've seen a marvel film since the first avengers, I don't get how people can watch the same film over and over and over and over and over and over and over
>>12564 I would probably enjoy a marvel movie but there are so many of them and you have to watch all of them to understand the underlying plot
Just FYI there is a superman, batman and joker thread >>3352 >>7 >>2628
>>12568 This is for Capeshit movies and mostly shitting on Marvel
>>12563 I find it really impressive how they manage to portray the governments as corrupt but at the end ultimately good and a force for peace and goodness. The recent DC movies are utter trash. I think the worst big budget movie I have ever seen in my entire life was a DC movie, probably Batman vs Superman. The marvel movies, while definitely not kino, are fun to watch. I like the X-Men ones particularly. I like the new spiderman, Tom Holland, as well, hot af. It's not wrong to enjoy the movies, but simping over them, being a fan, or thinking they are somehow "good", just seems morally wrong for some reason. I personally know people who went to the theaters dressed up because they are "hard core geeks", but haven't even seen all of the movies. I find the superficiality of fandom pretty gross, tbh.
>>12570 DC fags get out. Just because Marvel is more popular and New 52 fucked you, doesn't mean shit. Also they ARE capeshit threads dummy. >>12581 Fucking this. The only DC film I liked was Aquaman simply because they stopped trying to mirror Marvel and let it be its own thing.
>>12606 I don’t think DC is good either lmao, no shit they’re worse but there’s already three DC threads
>>12607 >already three DC threads Which is why I posted them here, so people would be aware of them.
>>12565 Thats the other problem, I'm sure they're not that deep but I don't want to sit through 30 hours of movie so I can watch one good one.
>>12563 Watching Marlel movies in theaters must be one of the worst experiences I’ve gone through in consuming a corporate product (I got dragged into watching Endgame). The entire time it is constantly interrupted by weird laughter and retarded noises from boomer Marvel fans who unironically having the expression of that one guy reacting to the 3rd Disney Star Wars trailer. I was half asleep when the audience erupted into insane cries from retards at the snap. Fucking Christ it was awful, and not the “so bad it’s good” awfulness of Suicide Squad either. What a waste of 2 bucks.
>>12625 I don't know what you expected from a discount theatre.
>>12563 That pic keeps reminding me about tide-pods for some reason.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MCU IS PRO MILITARY So many of their bad guys are military dudes and shit. Like it's always government people bad and want to use power to destroy. you could say it is pro capitalist with how much iron man a private sector mogul turned super hero is though.
>>12563 I identify with commodity R340FHO3412
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>>12703 Because its contradictory as fuck, the government is evil... except when its not and that it's just a certain "rogue group"
>>12706 >what will I do to fight against this?!?? <I know! I’ll continue working with SHIELD, an apparatus of the US government! Cap is a limp dick weakling.
>>13118 i for the life of me can barely remember any government being good guys moments. in the most popular movie the secret shadow governments are okay with nuking nyc and were using alien tech to build weapons for no reason. only time somebody from the government is shown being good is when they are going against official orders it is perfect american "small government good libertarian" propaganda >>12706 wtf based. how did the writers get away with it? >>13223 didn't he drop the monkier once and go by nomad for a while or something
Apparently NuNewwarriors are not cancelled... they're really going through with Safespace, Snowflake, internet-gas boy and other shit.
>>13825 At least /co/ will have something new for the storytime of pain threads. Those are always a good laugh.
>>12625 >Americans watching movies Have you seen them clap when a mediocre movie ends? Or have you ever been forced to stay for 10 minutes more for the post-credit advertising of the next movie? Painful. >>12641 I went to a "really nice cinema" to watch some capeshit movie. A lot of the people, mostly boomers but also younger people, were forcing themselves to laugh at even the most meh jokes or even funny expressions the characters made. My cousin and her husband wore onesie pajamas to see one of the avengers movies. They haven't watched most of them.
>>14622 >>12625 >Americans watching movies This is something interesting. When I went visited america last summer visiting cinema was the most interesting experience i had in your country. It's incredible how much of an anonymous and collective experience is. Explains a lot about the aurora shootings too.
>>14622 >Americans Sadly not the case. It’s a Vietnamese theatre. I got forced to watch the god awful post-credit scenes with the millennial boomers shouting over it. Peak consoomer retardation.
Am I the only one who just cannot give a fuck just how much the comic-book industry bends over backwards to be shit-eating liberals? Like female Thor and fat Wonderwoman are retarded, but I couldn't give a fuck, its all childish nonsense that 90% of the time hasn't been good in over 2 decades anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_j9WA4nuo
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The only MCU movie I've watched is Ragnarock and I must say it was bad. The jokes were so predictable and immature, I would respect Marvel a lot more if their movies were just a bunch of guys and gals throwing shit at each other and grunting, with a few cheesy one-liners at the end, instead of that cringy memefest. Their posters are also so bad man, I would say that movie posters are the one aspect of cinema that has definitely devolved over the years
>>16107 >Putting Sam Reimi's Spiderman in the same group as BP and Homecoming. The Reimi series is the best Spiderman movies we have gotten, their effects might be a little dated and the action is so colorful, but that just makes it so much better. Homecoming was alright but every other spiderman movie without Tobey Maguire was retarded for a number of ways, with Amazing Spiderman being 'meh' and Amazing Spiderman 2 having Electro's theme the only thing I liked about it. I liked Ragnarok because it was exactly what I like about Guardians of the Galaxy, some serious stakes but a very lighthearted approach to it without being super DEEEEEEEP. It was good clean, silly fun for me, and that's all I wanted from it.
>>16110 > is so colorful I meant to say less colorful... fucking autocorrect seems to be ass-backwards today.
>>16107 >immature That’s the point. The director’s whole career is is same one note overrated trash.
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>>16107 Jesus Christ. Every time I see that fucking poster of Spiderman Homecoming I go into an epileptic fit. Who the fuck though cutting and pasting Jon Favreau's fat ass head onto that body was a good idea?
>>16276 Probably Favreau himself. Guy’s an egotistical twat.
>>16107 I could not stop laughing throughout ragnarok. Usually the other movies has hit or miss jokes.
>>16107 >The one Lmao
>>16110 >Putting Sam Reimi's Spiderman in the same group as BP and Homecoming. I didn't intend to group them, I put Spiderman 2 as an example of a movie having a great poster. I agree that they were great movies, I grew up on that shit >>16281 Which other aspects have definitely deteriorated?
>>16286 Storytelling, character-writing, originality
The only time I get to watch those are when I'm on a transcontinental flight, they always have them 100% in their list. It's one of those weird things where they are apparently really popular although I personally know almost nobody who watches them, and I do know some consoomer types who faint over Star Wars and stuff like that. I honestly don't get appeal. The world is ridiculously oversaturated with magic, aliens, sci-fi tech, etc. while the only concept of a good superhero movie would be one where you learn about the origin story of the hero and the villain and where they got their powers from - you know, some sort of build-up. I know Marvel has this stuff too but in those all-star movies like The Avengers it's just bloated and doesn't matter anyway because it is dogmatically stratified into "power levels" instead of a stone-scissor-rock principle where one superpower trumps the other, which would be more interesting to watch. I just think anybody who gets invested in this and is over 18 has problems. Like, this is kids stuff. At least for Chrisopher Nolan's Batman trilogy I can at least activate my suspension of disbelief during the more serious moments, for Marvel movies I can't.
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>>12563 Are "the boys" considered capeshit ? started the new season, it pretty good.
>>16343 It's just capeshit taken realistically and being satirical. It's still capeshit though
>>16343 The comics is more about shitting on the corporate structure that propped up the military industrial complex although it’s too reliant on that point and fucked up the plot royally. It’s too focus on portraying the corporation as incompetent and superheroes as idiots that it forgot to talk about how such abject failures gained the large support they had in the first place.
>>12606 Aquaman has such terrible pacing and storytelling though.
>>16364 The TV show seems to be a huge improvement over the comics in regards to, well, everything.
>>16366 EH the pacing wasn't grea, but far better than prior DC films and the story telling wasn't supposed to be great, it 's a fucking superhero movie. When they take themselves too seriously we get dumb edgy shit like BP or Endgame. Just let it be the escapist fantasy it was supposed to be.
>>16372 Ennis is an unironic military fag who look at the shitshow of the industrial complex and say that it's a good thing. His recent punisher is another mindless Soviet bashing tirade.
>>16412 >another mindless Soviet bashing tirade. Well that's what Punisher has always been. Also how long until he attacks and beats Colossus with hax and plot?
>>16416 >Also how long until he attacks and beats Colossus with hax and plot? He already did it. This is the same wanktastic tard that wrote Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe. Literally the only good run he ever did is some minor war stories and Hitman. That was fun for actually having his “not punisher” face DC superheroes.
>>16460 >Muh spirituality Fuck off faggot
>>13223 Some people argue a libertarian line: https://www.cracked.com/article_27330_why-avengers-are-all-anarchists.html <What makes Steve Rogers different from Tony Stark, though, what makes him a true anarchist, is that he's not going against the government for his own selfish gains. He's not screaming "You can't have my property!" and then convincing himself it's for a good reason. He's not, like Stark, ceding responsibility for his actions to a higher power after a string of screw-ups, desperate to free himself from blame. Rogers knows that the government will, inevitably, do what is best for the government, and not the people. And that's just not how Captain America rolls. This isn't really wrong, however it ignores the fact that the films themselves are contradictive to this theme overall. The films promote imperialism as films of popular genre in the USA have for decades since talkies began. Cowboy Movies reflected how America viewed itself as the new major empire of the depicted time in the 1930s - 60s Action movies reflected the ideology of US Imperialism in the 60s-80s- 2000s. Superhero movies are the ideology of US Imperialism in the present day (2010-2020s~) It all makes sense when you consider the Avengers are figuratively and also often literally a part of the US military: - Captain Marvel was an Air Force pilot - Tony Stark made weaponry for the US - Captain America was an American GI - Same with Falcon - Black Widow was an American special operative - Same with Hawkeye And of course the Avengers work with Shield so frequently they’re basically the superpowered branch of the US military. They don’t really even interact with other real world governments besides America’s. At the end of the day, the idea is: POWERFUL PEOPLE WILL SAVE YOU - TRUST THE SYSTEM
>>16523 >some people <cracked using Amerilard liberal logic where “anarchism mean no rulez” Fuck off.
>>16539 Did you read what was written or did you just have a typical reflex response? >Some people argue a LIBERTARIAN line <This isn't really wrong, however it IGNORES the fact that the films themselves are CONTRADICTIVE TO THIS THEME l
In my opinion Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes is probably the best version of Avengers in animated or film media. I prefer it heavily over Avengers Assemble, which is quite babyish in comparison.
>>16426 >He already did it Fuck. >Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe I find it amusing how many capeshit fans seem to love that comic and the one where Deadpool does the same thing. Punisher as a character was always a street-level vigilante-type combatant - making him into some uber powerful dude with supertech is moronic... that's literally Cable.
>>12706 >>13223 It's not Cap, it's the editors and their CIA handlers, who caught this shit and changed it like always to make sure that the narrative is only just subersive enough that people believe that free speech is real in the country.
>>17558 >Punisher as a character was always a street-level vigilante-type combatant - making him into some uber powerful dude with supertech is moronic... Yeah, that’s why I love his work on Hitman much more. Tommy is a much better character who wasn’t plagued with constant brooding ptsd like Punisher while at the same time being in a somewhat self-contained book with a beginning and end restricts how much Ennis can wank him. The final issue where Tommy and pals end it all in blaze of glory against all the gangs they pissed off over the run is just the ending I want for Punisher. Showing that vigilantism finally got its deserved karma.
>>17560 >this Exactly. It's a bit like Bronson's Death Wish and Death Wish 2.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League_Dark:_Apokolips_War Recently DC AMU let out their Apokalips War movie which conceptually was cool, but the fights and story were so fucking stupid it makes Buu-arc DBZ look good. Black Manta, Bane and any DC characters killed, die like utter retards killing fodder and then suddenly dying to them for no fucking reason except shitty writing. At least with shonen anime they have these characters fight for a really long time and getting sloppy from fatigue, but noooo we gotta play stoopid! Lex Luthor doesn't even bust out his anti-Superman power suit for no reason, despite it letting him clash with supes and despite him having body modifications that make him above superhuman on his own. >Inb4 being part Doomsday They're not that fast, and their strength is comparable to high-tier superhumans. Given their weakness to kryptonite (and it's copious use) as well as the fact that they aren't nearly as berserkers (or strong) as actual Doomsday, it's irrellevant. They're fodder and shouldn't be able to even scratch higher-tier characters (who seem to forget their most powerful attacks). Even when it's not against fodder people die like morons, FFS The Green Lanterns get killed as they CHARGE at Darkseid as if their power rings don't let them use attacks from any range. Not one of these morons puts up a shield, one of the super-man tier characters gets fucking killed by a bullet to the forehead. And Cheeetah a character who fights one-one with Wonder woman (who in turn matches Superman at times) gets killed by bullets. Swampthing gets turned into a joke despite being a living embodiment of The Green, a force comparable to the Omega and the Speed Force, existing long before Darkseid, and will exist long after Darkseid. As we’ve seen what someone can do just by tapping into a significant portion of the Speed Force, the power of it is immense. Over time, Swamp Thing has learnt to control The Green more and more, eventfully mastering it, as it represents all green life in the universe, not just plant life on earth. Poison Ivy is also aware of The Green's existence, due to being intrinsically linked to her plants. And while different representations of different Forces vary in strength, Swampthing is essentially limitless in terms of regeneration, as you would have to torch every single habitable planet on the universe to kill him. Other gripes; - Who the hell thought it was a good idea to bring the Martian and the Atlanteans to a world where there’s only fire? - Why the fuck doesn't Cyborg regenerate his parts? He's literally implanted into a wall of the same technology that his own cybernetics are made of! - Why are they attacking the tower when Luthor, Genius at 4D chess, would just as likely help them if they just talked to him convincingly. Hell he just up and switches around 5 minutes later. He may be a self-serving sociopath, but he isn't stupid enough to engage in infighting during a matter of life or death of humanity. - Do you expect me to believe that the Tamaranians would just let their princess be turned into a cyborg automaton without some kind of retaliation? They are powerful and technologically advanced, while no match for Darkseid, they would likely be useful allies to taking down his forces. They aren't shown to be beaten and we don't see them join in so WTH? - While Etrigan's nihilistic boredom is great, he gets killed really randomly, he's an immortal demon with insane healing - a sword through the chest is par for the course. The 3D models of the Paradooms are also unsettling as fuck, they're borderline Berserk3D tier. TL;DR: Bane & Black Manta - both feared & intelligent adversaries of Batman & Aquaman - Ripped apart after both non-characteristically pulling a Leeroy Jenkins into a horde of Doomsdays... just like the majority of the cast. Etrigan was the only good character. A real disappointment over-all, especially compared to movies like the ones involving Flash or Doomsday and even more so in contrast to Batman TAS and Superman TAS.
Anyone have this clip in better resolution? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGu0p0Mw7QE
>>18492 Most of the new DC films are like that. The only good ones recently is gods and monsters and maybe hell to pay.
>>16412 >is an unironic military fag who look at the shitshow of the industrial complex and say that it's a good thing i got the complete opposite vibe reading the boys
>>19156 I hate this terrible trend... but the comic-book industry hasn't been good for years now.
>>19193 There are good comics out there, Marvel and DC are shit tho

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