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/leftygsg/ Comrade 08/22/2019 (Thu) 06:25:11 No. 324
Thread for discussing grand strategy and similar games
Should 4X games be allowed in as well?

Also posting a link to Napoleon's Legacy, one of the few good things to come out of /gsg/:
https://github.com/napoleons-legacy/mod
>>3325 >Buying paradox shit Yeah no. >>324 Any plans to make communist submods for this? Having the only communist options being USSR remnants, Cuba and Vietnam seems boring as all hell.
Kaiserreich China update is out boys!
Gonna try and play a game of CK 2 from the 700 start date as Wessex king, try to form England/Britannia and become a Satanist in order to add flavour to the runthrough. Tips?
>>5202 Cornish world conquest though if you want to be serious, commit yourself hard to beating the sons of Ragnar because otherwise the vikings will be all up in your shit forever. if you want you can let them get conquered so you can holy war the territory back later, but you'd have to wait a generation or two because they will use their blood ties to stay allied to each other for a while. Gaelic cultures are slightly easier because you get tanistry succession, which lets you chose your favored heir as long as the electorate goes along with it, but usually the electorate and the king will have the same idea of who should be heir because of positive traits they have.
>>3459 proof that eu4tards have no hope
>>4774 Kinda disappointed the searching brother Ho quest line for the Indochinese Union remained unchanged. You would think that with German presence massively decreasing and China even more chaotic, he would have been apart of the left KMT.
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How am I doing so far? I managed to get the immortality event and passed cause I got the "Jesus gives martial advice" trait and it it never went away so my martial is thirty fucking two. Also its the third character, the first ruled for 16 years, the second only 26 days, but this guy has been a fucking beast. Been taking over England slowly, and got that spanish kingdom by marrying my second wife and then using the claim to put her on the throw, sacrificed her to a demon and change the inheritance laws, then murdered my son so I inherited it. Also my guy is gay for his horse doctor.
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behold
>>5269 >poland 1940 borders unironically looked best
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This leak makes Buriyata look so fuckin cool. >reviving the Union under the hopeful glowing light of Sablin's ideal
>>5295 So Yagoda is this timeline’s version of Beria? What happened to Beria and the other old Bolsherviks under Bukharin?
>>3153 >Khmer Empire Pol Pot masturbatory fantasy intensify
Jesus fucking christ being the high priest of the satanic cult is OP, I just keep vassalizing everyone because I first abduct them, possess them with a demon, release them and bada-bing bada-boom they accept vassalization. I basically conquered almost all of England by abusing this. It's so fucking good.
>>5304 just wait until you play as a hoarde
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>>5269 loog i figgsd Uurop :DDDD
>>5306 GROSSBritannium
>>5306 ah yes das grobst srpskia :DDD
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>>5316 now THIS is based
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So I spent around 4 hours today searching for all info on TNO HOI4 mod that I can find. This feels like it's going to be the best one yet, better than KR probably, and from what I understand it is all some guys autism project.
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UHHHHHHH I THINK I'M DOING IT WRONG So I found out that as an empire you can just vassalize entire kingdoms, so I abduct the heirs, possess them, kill the king, and boom an entire kingdom belongs to me. So after this screenshot I got all of Scandinavia and Western Europe. I was gonna export it to an EU4 game but it's not even 1000 and I've won because of maximum cheese.
>>5318 what the fuck is going on
>>5321 It’s the focus tree for the Deutsche Sozialistische Republik (RAF of TNO) still led by Meinhof herself. A bunch of young German communist that was radicalized from from being Speeroid liberals to full doomers hellbent on self-annihilation. They believe that because of the crimes of the system they’ve lived in, Germany is beyond the salvation of socialism. If they won the Nazi civil war, they would exterminate every single German that has benefited from the old regime (which includes themselves). Deliciously chaotic good.
>>5324 Sounds a bit too edgy
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>>5321 I really love the idea of this mod since it's the perfect mix of actually pretty interesting and realistic alt history ideas mixed quite well with absolutely insane bullshit on the other hand. Here are some of my favorite little things from this mod: >Hitler decides to do project Atlantropa after winning WW2, which, obviously fucking backfires. So hard in fact that it crashes the whole European economy since all the ports get fucked. Anti-German sentiment spreads over the Mediterranean fascist states, resulting in them getting kicked out. Now the Atlantic Dam is under Iberian (Franco's state) control, and it is found that the bloody thing is on the brink of collapse, which would cause the sea to flood back, killing millions of settlers of the new sand planes. I imagine if the Iberian player fucks up, this will happen. >After USSR collapses, it is replaced by a bunch of regional warlords. One minor of these is Lysenko, who is going full mad scientist now that he has no oversight >If USA goes neocon, it will sponsor the settings equivalent of Maoist rebels over in the colonial regions, and have a Vietnam-style war in South Africa against the Boers. >One of the leaders of the Baltic partisans is a Jewish man driven mad by vengeance who now seeks to genocide every single German settler. >According to what I learned about the mod, Himmler is a supervillain now, playing everyone against each other in hopes of causing a nuclear war, so he could establish his hyperfascist society with spartan characteristics after hiding out in bunkers. >Protracted British peoples war against the collaborationist monarchist regime >West Africa is terror bombed into the stone age by the Luftwaffe perpetually in order to destroy the remnants of Free France >India is most likely to have a communist revolution happen >Basically a 4-sided cold war between USA, German sphere, Mediterranean fascists and Japan, with a lot of rebelions, revolutions and civil wars happening anywhere, including Germany, where the liberals, old guard army men and SS are at each others throats, with a small chance for DSR to pop up.
>>5335 Yeah it’s a pretty ambitious mod. But sure do need some addons to remove your normal plebbit enlightened centrist content. Also found this pasta. >The year is 1983, and at long last the world is free. >It was not the German madness, the insanity in the guise of National pride that brought salvation. It was not the Japanese way, that most imperialistic of anti-imperialist movements. It was not the American’s, the worst of the lot, with their false freedoms and empty words. >They were lies, all of them. New falsehoods concocted by the same class of bourgeois and capitalist war-baiters who have always used such tools to keep the workers of the world pitted against each other. Divided, so that they might be conquered. >No, it was something old that brought the world to its destiny. Something old, long thought dead, but risen once more. Socialism >The Proletariat across the world have united, and torn their chains asunder. A 4th Internationale reigns, the continuation of decades of struggle, yet greater than any of its predecessors. From England to India. From a reunited Soviet Union to an at last united Pan-African socialist nation, from Cuba to Iberia, workers to long enslaved and subjugated now stand united. America grows ever nearer to joining the revolution, its bourgeois ruling class kept in power only by the machinations of its false democracy and the sneaking skulking FBI. Germany and Japan lie prostrate, their Armies defeated by the workers they had once enslaved. Their Fascist overlords have abandoned all pretense of representative leadership, and maintain their rule only by the power of the Atom Bomb. But the workers of these nations, the last bastions of Fascism and Imperialism should not fear. The Internationale is coming for them. Thanks to the joint effort of members across five continents, the workers of the world will soon have nuclear weapons of their own, enough to annihilate any of the enemies of the revolution. For America’s unique brand of slavery, we do not need them, only our words and truth. They will see our cities rising, are factories churning, the glories of true Communism speeding ever closer. In the third world, Socialism has all but won its century long argument with Capitalism, Labor its even longer fight with capital. The red dawn has come, and mankind gazes into it, hopeful yet unending in its fight for liberation. >Or has it? While Capitalism and Fascism certainly have fallen out of favor with much of the world, this is more likely due to the weaknesses of those ideologies and not the strength of their replacement. The red flag rises everywhere, but it is not quite the same shade of red. In England it is mocked as rather a “pink” flag that tolerates capitalist degeneracy of all stripes. In Africa it is accompanied with the Black and Green of furiously nationalistic African Socialism, so vibrant in its love of the long suffering black worker that it imprisons and often executes all those who remember their old ethnicities, nationalities, or religions. The revived Soviet Union suffers from the same defects as the first, as workers shuffle from factories that produce unnecessary goods to rickety wooden barracks unendingly. In India, it is the peasants who rule over the small urban worker class, and over one another with the enthusiastic cruelty of the Raoist “Red Guards”. In Iberia, socialism has not yet decided what form it will take, and ranges from the carefully distributed madness of Anarcho-Syndicalism to the heavily concentrated insanity of Autosufencia. >Despite the bold proclamations of Premiers trying to outdo one another, America is not defeated, no more than any other super powers. Though the Internationale’s propaganda ministry funnels them ever more cash, the LNPP remains stubbornly unable to win either a majority of congress or the presidency. Plenty of workers and peasants still sport German and Japanese weapons as they kill their liberators in the name of their “dead” nationalism. >The red tide has risen, so high that only nations remain above who defy it. But is it the red of Labor, or that of Blood? Will the decades to come cement the history of the 20th century as the history of Socialism, or will they be the fall to its already occurring decline? Pick your nation, choose your difficulty, and then decide for yourself. >>5332 It’s made by libs and Chinese Dengoids, of course it would have some commies=nazis bullshit.
>>5343 Well, I don't think the DSR is that much of a dishonest centrist take. The left is literally dead in TNO's Germany, and they are inspired by The New Left, which in all honesty was a shitty and suicidal "class war now" movement by western idealists, and Pol Pot was something that did happen OTL, thus I don't think it is that unrealistic or dishonest to leftism that DSR would end up becoming a Sakaist-esque death cult. My bigger problem with the mod is stuff like >>5295. I mean, yes, in that situation Yagoda clearly has to go, but the underlying idea is mostly the myth of muh ebil totalitarian NKVD terrorizing everyone just because they can, even though that is overblown and in many cases forced by necessity to protect the state. Here it is just portrayed as purely evil, which is funny, since quite a few nazi / ex nazi / fascist paths in the mod seem to have more gray than this.
>>3324 HOI4 introduced me to strategy games, and I still play it nowadays with the MP and roleplaying games because it's fun, stop feeling superior for playing more complicated map games.
>>5344 >since quite a few nazi / ex nazi / fascist paths in the mod seem to have more gray than this. This is what I meant with how the mod is made by centrists. Most reformist Nazis are actually considered as good and it also continues to peddle the meme of “Speer the good Nazi” while in real life Speer was filthy weasel that lied his way out of execution even though he’s just as much of a Nazi as anybody apart of the Nazi upper echelon.
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Waiting a little longer before attacking Germany June 22 1941 sounds like a good date Vive la Commune
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get dunked on
>>5345 >stop feeling superior for playing more complicated map games. No. Stop feeling like you're equal when you play babby's first map game
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>>5388 >>5345 You both are like little children.
>>5375 is hoi3 kaiserreich worth playing
>>5394 >hoi3 kaiserreich Errrrrr you thinking of Darkest Hour? Kaiserreich was originally a mod for Darkest Hour and Hoi3 has a DLC called Finest Hour which is completely different. Ok I had to google that but holy shit somebody backported Kaiserreich to Hoi3 in 2017 wtf, "This is my hearts of iron 3 mod this mod is based on the hearts of iron 4 mod by the same name that mod help to inspire this mod" WTF
>>5390 bote autism is more a wargame/rts than a gsg
how do I get political points in Crisis in the Kremlin?
>>5432 Hmm its been a while since the play here but I think you get those from events
>>5434 Maybe I should restart
>>5346 I took an online villain test and says my personality matches Speer
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also, anyone ever play DEFCON or Super Power 2?
>>5437 I used to love playing DEFCON. That was the shit back in the day on /v/ before it went to shit. No other game has such pure distilled strategy. Everyone's your enemy trying to kill you, and yet you have to find a way to work together. Its so satisfying.
>>5437 I got a free copy for DEFCON when my steam account glitched out. Good fun. Just wish that the systems are deeper.
>>5436 Man, I got Doenitz, I'm such a bore.
>>5436 I got Hitler. Well at least I’m not a ptsd ridden vegan like
>>5436 Took it & got Stalin. Interesting.
>>5346 Yeah, funny thing is that they could've kept Speer being a "reformist" (For lack of a better term) but have him do it because he believes it'll be easier for the Reich to manage their imperialist ambitions >>5343 >But sure do need some addons to remove your normal plebbit enlightened centrist content. Agreed, personally one submod for it I am definirely waiting for is one that'll dsiable the use of nuclear weapons >Chinese Dengoids Wait, what?
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>>5436 Putingang gang

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