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The Boys Anonymous Comrade 10/11/2020 (Sun) 18:39:28 No. 17212
I have never seen a show cause more butthurt on /tv/ than this. What are leftypols thoughts?
>>17519 >omg epic soviet penis man cringe, glad he was left out.
>>17524 >>17526 He was a massive comrade regardless.
i read a spoiler for this comic's ending for billy butcher le tragic ending and it is moronic in the comic billy is a massive prick so whatever but i fucking swear the show better end with billy tearing and ending shitlander literally apart in the most gruesome hateful way and then retire peacefully somehow or at least with a happy ending i hate that the nazi cunt survived. what the fuck are they going to come up with some weakness for the both of the Nazis?? you know what he should do is train his uhm "wife's son" and use him like that baby he used in season 1 when he was trapped in vought labs and laser eyes garbagelander to death with his own son kill him with his own misdeed cheesy but kino ending also still don't understand why the politician chick was blowing people up is she working for vought? what is the implication??? is there another secret organization inside vought like hydra?
>>17622 >i read a spoiler for this comic's ending for billy butcher le tragic ending and it is moronic spoilers for comic ending: black noir is homelander's clone; his sole purpose is to kill homelander if homelander goes rogue and, I dunno, attempts to overthrow the US government. this didn't happen at first, so he went insane. all of the events in the comic are implicitly caused by black noir so he can fulfill his sole purpose of killing homelander. billy has gone his entire life thinking his dead wife's rape baby was homelander's but no, it was black noir's. throughout the comic's run homelander gets increasingly bored and eventually decides "to do what he wants"—this includes overthrowing the US government. homelander and black noir fight in the white house; homelander dies, black noir is wounded. billy finishes off black noir by carving out his skull with a crowbar. that's not where the comic ends, though. billy can't stop butchering, and gradually kills off the the boys one by one until it's just hughie left. hughie, who's had a highly contentious relationship with the boys from the start, decides to confront billy. they meet at the top of the empire state building, of which billy is threatening to bomb. billy gets a rise out of hughie one last time and forces hughie to kill him with a piece of glass to the heart. flash forward a couple months: hughie gives one last ultimatum to vought and makes up with Annie. the end.
>>17526 There was one joke that had to do with his dick in the whole comic.
>>17624 if they do that twist or that tragic liberal ending in the show it would be so fucking stupid the dickless wuss new guy ends up surviving and getting the girl while everybody else dies "you either die le hero or live long enough to be le villain" billy should really kill every major powerful supe or neutralize most of their powers with the exceptions of trusted allies that is the most logical conclusion they're all killing superheroes or actively helping in doing it if any of them suddenly become pacifists next season or butcher ends up becoming the villain i will drop this goddamn show i would literally have no problem if they do any other twist like "omg starlight is actually hughie's long lost sister and he gets depressed and becomes a lumberjack" or that "the entire show was actually a dream billy had after falling asleep on that christmas party he went with his wife to vought" or that M.M is actually a figment of frenchie's imagination
>>17641 They're not gonna go for that, because in the show Homelander has a son so that's Chekov's gun. Plus we've seen show Black Noir being too weak to be Homelander's clone, and he's taken out by an Almond Joy, and his face is fucked, he is their Deadpool knock-off. Plus most people hated that ending in the comics.
>>17624 >>17641 I feel the poster missed that Butcher did that stuff because: Butcher literally wants to genocide everyone who has Compound V in them with a gaseous bioweapon released globally to remove the threat of supes from the Earth forever; he's been planning to do so for a looong time. The problem with that is in the comics is that V is literally everywhere; plenty of it's practically in the water as toxic waste; meaning he'll genocide most living beings as a whole; not to mention he and Hughie are V'd up in the comic too Butcher is fine with this because it's worth the price in his mind, idk, I think it's kind of in character, but it's waaaay over the top and edgy in all honesty So Butcher kills all of The Boys (and Love Sausage man) because he knows they'll stop him (but also because Ennis was being edgy LOL) So he and Hughie who's not been killed yet end up facing off on the Empire State, where Butcher is threating to detonate all of the bioweapon bombs around the whole world, not just bomb the building; I honestly hated that all of the other Boys died in this ending, and I thought it was stupid, but Butcher just being that fucking awful kind of made sense to me. In any case, I don't think the show is going that way at all. Butcher is if anything constantly making compromise and growing as a person, even if much of his deep-seated isn't just whisked away. In the comic however, he was wholly without compromise.
>>17649 thank god if black noir was the guy to takeout homelander in the comics who was supposed to takeout black noir? did he have a brain chip or something
>>17666 That's understandable. The only time in the show Billy really felt evil to me was when he hammered that kid from sixth sense. There wasn't much else to do with that character since his kid doesn't really care for him or anything but damn that scene was graphic with him begging to butcher to spare his life in exchange of him helping to find his wife but he still just kept bashing his skull onto the sinks. He had to do it to 'em.
>>17666 Oh man, I completely forgot about the bioweapon stuff; thanks for reminding me.
>>17691 They never explained that. Maybe they thought that a confrontation between Homelander and Homelander's clone would destroy them both, which sort of worked, in the comics you have Homelander slowly losing his mind because he is blackmailed with atrocities he didn't seem to recall, including some horrifying shit like eating (!) a family, which drives him over the edge to the point where he storms the White House, killing the President, and then Black Noir reveals his secret identity in the Oval Office but also seems like a complete nutcase, in that moment Homelander realizes he could have been a "good guy" so he immediately attacks his clone, seemingly severs his arm off with his laser eyes. The next time we see them is Black Noir coming out of the White House seemingly having killed Homelander but being half-dead himself, with a part of his brain hanging out of his skull. He then gets shelling by an entire US Army division with special anti-V ammunition, and only then Butcher is able to finish him off by destroying his brain. Butcher is strong and jacked up with V himself but Homelander and therefore necessarily his clone are ridiculously overpowered and it takes a half-dead Homelander clone being shelled by artillery having half his brain exposed to finish him off. A brain chip or some artificially built-in weakness seemed to be a most logical contigence plan, in the comics they keep a nuke next to the room in which Homelander grows up.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1190634/reviews?sort=submissionDate&dir=desc Check out some of the lower star reviews there, those people are very dumb. Constantly bemoaning "leftist propaganda" in season 2 but how season 1 was political flies right past them. The main villain is literally called Homelander who wears an American flag for a cape and holds speeches on a Christian festival about how he's gonna punish America's enemies, how the fuck is this not political? Plus, they complain how the show inserts forced "diversity" into season 2, I don't think they are understanding how they make fun of corporate work culture as well? Maeve's coming out as gay is literally commodified into a candy bar, do those people think that this is supposed to praise shit like that? Also this constant bemoaning of "this show divides us" and makes things more "polarizing when we need unity", Christ, how sensitive are Americans? It's a satire what do you think satire is supposed accomplish? Also there is one guy who gives it a 1 star rating simply because they took the shit out of teachers being armed due to constant school shooters in the last episode and there one that thinks Stormfront represents the Democrats because Democrats hate people based on the color of their skin.
>>17711 corporate woke culture*
>>17212 comic was genius (and a lot more hardcore than the show), but, well its garth ennis so ofc its gud only seen season 1 so far, was very good, hope it doesnt eventually become garbage weak libshit, but they handled starlight great so far
>>17229 Im into european comic (am french), and garth ennis is one the very select few US comic author I actually like and buy his shit. >>17230 > I'm not sure how much of this has made it into the show the show is much more tame, but there are still a lot of epicness, and as the plot is pretty different you wont be spoiled by your knowledge
>>17701 lmfao that's fucking wild so season 3 is going to either start introducing anti-v weapons or the boys taking the v compound themselves does the prick have disturbing mommy issues in the comic too?
>>17718 i'm watching the youtube story version of the comics because i don't have a mouse and scrolling every 10 seconds with a track pad is annoying currently at the part where the legend guy is telling hughie about the origins of supes the way people were complaining about lamplighter getting killed so soon in the show i thought he was alive for long in the comic but he just got shown in one panel dying as peace offering
>>17718 none of the mommy issues exists in the comics, he also doesn't have a kid. This entire storyline never happens there which leads me to believe that we will get a very different ending. Also, the Homelander in the show seems to be smarter and more cunning than the comic version. >>17719 Yeah but he'll come back for a brief moment as a zombie. Vought sometimes resurrects superheroes who got killed with Compound-V which turns them in zombies who are then dressed up for a photo op to give away the illusion that they're still alive in the eyes of the public. but yeah, I've read that even the showrunner regretted that they killed off Lamplighter so quickly.
>>17719 >scrolling every 10 seconds with a track pad is annoying Ever heard of a spacebar?
>>17711 Being a Gr*ngo is being mentally diseased. One can only lose the Gr*ngo condition by knowing basic shit and the role of Amerikkka in the world. A comedian I follow complained that the show practically doesn't give a fuck about killing supes in S2 focusing more in having investigation plots and big reveals that doesn't alter the plot in the absolute (showing the sense of apathy that one can sense in the streets, if not recall Wikileaks, the Epstein airplane, etc,etc.) >>17722 It was a good way to show how they resurrect those fuckers in the real life comics as the Stan Lee allegory put it in the comic
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>>17711 Amigo you've know way of understanding just how bad it is here in Burgerstan. Let me tell you this: There was this girl in my class in High School. She was in this thing called 'The Gifted Program;' I believe this program has its origin in Victorian era eugenics, and it cordons off students who are tested to be high-IQ as a sort of absolute inverse of 'Special Education' for the (literal) retards. We were in AP English class, that's 'college-level' in High School classes (i.e. normal HS level in any other country). We got to the unit where we were learning about satire and read Swift's A Modest Proposal, and this student who is at the highest tier within American education, who even has the IQ meme and everything, reads the work and takes it ""wholly at face value"". Completely incapable of perceiving the satire in one of the most blatantly satirical works ever written, while in a class actively teaching what satire is; believing that Swift was, in earnest, ""advocating for the cannibalization of Irish babies as an official proposal"", and not criticizing the fact the English may as well already be, or are already well on their way to, doing that to them given the shear monstrousness of their colonization. Perhaps it is idealistic of me to claim, there is no statistics to back up a material assertion on the matter, but it truly seems to me that the average American is incapable of comprehending satire in any form, I do not know if it is cultural or educational, as I cannot materially prove this either, but I believe it is an assertion that most would agree with based on shared experience. Additionally, rightoids claim oftentimes "It was just a satire bro" when they screech nygger at any old walking-negro, but this is, if anything, a rejection of even attempting to understand the concept of satire, done in order to smokescreen their being retarded as actually being "intellectual," even if it is not remotely so. pic unrel.
>>17752 Not a day goes by where I don't fantasize about an alternative future where Frank Lloyd Wright didn't design for suburban America. That pic looks like an office building done in the prairie style of architecture; just gorgeous. It reminds me of the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building which was designed by Kenzo Tange of the Metabolist movement.
>>17740 HOLY FUCKING SHIT I JUST FOUDN THIS OUT damn thanks anon
>>17212 it's good they really made fun of brands in the most recent season, the lgbt shit had my sides
>>17523 >Not AOCs role and if she's really a plant for Vaught. Dangerously based.
>>17531 he put the D in the C, as in Democratic Centralism
>>17752 Fuck the Gifted Program, all my homies hate the Gifted Program. Do you know if you talk to most any burger with knowledge of this they will fervently defend the segregation of students into different ability castes? WHICH IS ALL BASED ON SHITTY ASS IQ? GRR. People implicitly know the education system is absolute garbage for most people, but this shit gives bourgeois parents an out to identify their shitty kid as special, and be able to hoard the scarce educational resources onto a small section of the student body. The irony is that this shit doesn't work, studies show kids will learn more by being all integrated regardless of ability, the kids who are singled out as "gifted" just learn to give up at the slightest adversity because they couldn't possibly need to struggle to learn something. Rant over, sorry for offtopic post.
>>17798 >Fuck the Gifted Program, all my homies hate the Gifted Program. Based.
>>17798 I don't remember too well, but when I was in second grade they put me in retard segregation for a day because I would ignore everything the teacher said and stare into the abyss. Then I guess I did well enough there that they took me out and gave me and IQ test, I got a big number, and then I got put in the 'gifted' program for the rest of my days. I don't necessarily know if there really is a Bourg element to the 'gifted' program, but it is absolutely an exercise in IQ-based segregation likely with roots in eugenics (if I had to guess) I would definitely agree that 'gifted' did absolutely nothing to help me nor my fellow students in it in terms of developing intellectual capacity, but the program also did get more resources than the rest of the school: great efficiency there, eh. If you were in the program of course, you would get priority if you applied to go on any field trip or outing, which is some real IQ-based caste shit. I always did pretty shit at half of the gifted stuff anyways and was always really bad with socializing compared to the rest of my 'fellow ubermenschen,' so I'd guess my 'magical big number' was more a side effect of a certain spectrum if you would. Or some other manner of non-neurotypical disorder; I would say they should have kept me in 'special' for some help instead of 'gifted,' but I doubt they actually help all that much, and just serve to keep you cordoned away from the normals. Pic unrel again
>>17757 Couldn't agree more. That is an actual design from the man himself for the National Life Insurance Building in 1923-25 that never got built. The few buildings he designed that weren't suburban houses commissioned by bourgs were truly splendid. Makes me think how nice it'd be to have Soviet style mass-production of real Prairie stuff, that doesn't abandon FLW's actual style and aesthetic. Folks here are quick to judge him I feel since he did do mostly suburbanshit for bourgs, but it was his intention to build stuff for working folk. Just couldn't actually work out that way due to material conditions. An architect is allowed to be a bit of an idealist damn it. As long as they're not a fucking NAZI like a certain Herr Speer. sage for off-topic
>>17845 Respectable Ted talk anon, I liked it
Physic major Chads, could Homelander have saved that plane? Or were the passengers doomed the very moment he got onboard because he didn't give a fuck?
>>17888 could have saved it if he hadnt lasered both the control panels and the people with the knowledge to use it. Sadly he is so lazy, complacent and stupid he dooms the whole siuation in seconds
>>17212 I'm watching s1e5 and i've been ignoring most plotholes and odd moments and coincidences but I can't stay silent anymore. Why was there the footage of landlord dying in popclaw's apartment? Did the crew hand it to her? For what? Why was it on tv.
>>18110 The Boys has installed bugs.
>>18110 Hughie fudged the cameras in the apartment, including the smart TV, I'm not a tech guy but A-Train must have accidently pulled up the footage. Now, where the real fuck up is, it's pretty damn sloppy to not come back to the apartment, uninstall everything, and delete the footage. They must have known A-Train or literally anybody at Vought would come back and check her apartment out if she would defect, right?
i've seen nazifags unironically agree with stormfront's white genocide speech, just a perfect encapsulation of these people missing the point
>>18137 Am I the only one who cringed whenever she said race? Not as in the acting or writing is bad, but in character it sounds kind fucked?
>>17212 They got buttmad cause the boys fucked Stormfront in the ass.
>>18137 They actually took it from these rightoids themselves. >>18143 I think you would have same visceral reaction if any internet nazi said that shit irl.
>>18137 >>18143 at first i thought "oh they fucked up naming her stormfront", then i saw it
>>18161 I'm honestly really curious how Garth Ennis came to be aware of the oldest neo-nazi forum on the internet—assuming that's what the name is in reference to.
>>18121 Still, why would the footage be saved on her tv? I thought it the boys tapped it on their laptop, why would it move from laptop to tv? Also, in the beginning, why would Vought seek to compensate Hughie and not Robin's legal guardians like her family which we don't hear of at all? He's just her boyfriend, almost irrelevant legally.
>>18121 >>18110 There was a secret camera teddy bear filming everything. Nobody noticed it. Hughie was fucking with the security webcams. Not the teddybear. >>17888 I think yes, he could've, but as you say, he was a lazy bastard and fucked shit up. >>18165 They were bribing Hughie to STFU, not for anything legally. If it were in this reality, I don't even think it would be legally binding, but that doesn't mean lawyers wouldn't pressure you to sign it anyways and threaten you if you break the NDA. Presumably, they also bribed Robin's family, if she had any. I liked The Boys. I'd definitely recommend it. Curiously, a friend who likes cinema as well as trash avengers movies didn't like The Boys. I don't get why, this is clearly superior to any Avengers trash. For me, one of the best series I've seen this year. Granted I don't watch too many. The political commentary was usually on point. The second half of the second season progressed a little too quickly, but I think it's fine. I liked it anyways. The characters are great, lots of character development, etc. The political commentary is also really fresh, with fake AOC, Stormfront, fake feminism, etc.
>>18162 i assumed it's pretty common knowledge to anyone who knows american far right politics
>>18143 >We are in a war for the culture. Seems like a perfect encapsulation of these annoying suburbanite /pol/yps. "It's not breads and circus if the massive multibillionaire Fortune 500 CEO is a part of the volk."
>>18166 >Curiously, a friend who likes cinema as well as trash avengers movies didn't like The Boys. It's because the political commentary and the more subtle elements of satire flies over their head, but they know deep down that it takes the absolute shit out their favorites so they dislike it. It's the normie consoomer equivalent to when you try to present /pol/yps actual theory and they react like "you are trying to deceive me with those big Jew codewords!!!"
>>18195 I mean, I don't think the bit about the "pray the gay away" hero being gay himself is that subtle.
>>18186 I like how some time after she said this they took the boy to fucking Vought Land. This is the culture they're "defending". And "bad guys want to hurt just 'cause of what we look like" the irony truly escapes her. Guess this was intended. Watching this show honestly felt like an exercise in seeing how the writers will write themselves out of this, their presence was palpable sometimes, but it was enjoyable nevertheless.

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