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Meditation Anonymous Comrade 06/08/2020 (Mon) 22:37:24 No. 10331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAVPDYhW_nw Does anyone have any experience with meditation or mindfulness? Ive been seeing it again and again and it *supposedly, i havent checked myself** studies show it can help you focus better and reduce overstimulation from the outside world. As someone who has struggled my entire life being overstimulated by everything, and who has felt my anxiety increase and my ability to focus drop over the past few years, I wonder if i should try meditating. Leaving aside all of the spiritual aspects, and leaving aside all of the stemlord objections, are there tangible benefits? Did anyone try? How do i properly do it? For how long? Thank you.
At least you will improve your patience and focus, that's the minimum what trying to stay with the breath does. This kind of concentration brings some calm and relaxation because you stop churning your anxious or unpleasant thoughts for a while. Other benefits I've observed during the last years are: – the increased ability to "step back" and disengage from some overwhelming emotions or obsessive thoughts (I had strong obsessions before, not anymore); – automatically becoming mindful and making your breath more comfortable in stressful situations (helps your body to relax because the stress causes strained breath); – being able to catch "subtle" thoughts flying through the mind without verbalization, kind of peek into your subconscious processes; – some long-forgotten memories coming up. Basically, meditation is looking at your mind and getting to know it better day by day. Focusing on the breath creates a "still spot" from where you can observe all its movements without being carried away by them because you have your breath as an anchor. Start with 7-15 minutes daily, see if you can push it further without straining yourself too much. Guided meditation is everywhere now, I recommend this one for a start: https://www.dhammatalks.org/mp3_guidedMed_index.html "Headspace" is ok too but it's more commercialized with all the theme-based courses. But avoid the "accept everything, just be here now" Western McMindfulness – it's a waste of time, the mind should be more proactive during the meditation (see the attached book for some theory).
>>10353 I just started the free trial of headspace, and its been good so far, I am more focused and can sit for more than 10minutes in one place, but I don't intend to buy that stuff once the trial is over. Tried a video you linked, its good but its really hard for me imagine breath moving through different parts of the body, I guess that will come with time.
>>10835 Probably observing breath at one spot would be the best for now. The sensitivity to both breath and body will grow eventually.
Rev Left Radio had an episode on meditation with Michael Brooks a while ago. I never tried out any of the stuff they talked about, but it was a good episode and some stuff may be helpful. https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/meditation-materialism-and-marxism
>>10353 Based buddhist anon. I am still appreciative of your answers the other day.
>>11560 Noice.
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Well lets see meditation praxis in one form or another has been around for at least a few thousand years. And it hasn't caught on, so probably not. The scientific evidence where people got brain scanned shows that it definitely has beneficial effects, but it takes about 10 years of 2h+/day to get proficient enough to really make a difference. I would say changing your environment to fix root causes of your suffering is more cost effective than trying to change your brain. If you get rid of capitalism and the inherent wealth inequality, you probably won't need meditation any-more.
Letting you know that there is a Lucid Dreaming thread that has meditation guides
>>11931 Thanks
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>>11562 Aw, thanks! >>11572 Doubts here, otherwise rich and successful people would be happier by default. Instead they are doing drugs and having "I should buy a boat" existential crises. Also, aging, illness, death, loss of loved ones will still exist in the communist future. Eliminating capitalism would improve the baseline for everybody but it's similar how therapy can bring you from a depression to the ordinary level of (un)happiness. Meditation can take you beyond the ordinary and towards the unconditioned happiness by changing how your mind perceives the world, stress, pain. Anyway, after capitalism is gone, everybody will have enough free time to meditate 2h+/day.
>>12357 >pic What an absolute unit!
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>>19320 >meditation 22 kek
>>10331 How does one get into meditation? I just meditate one day and forget to do it the next day.
>>19345 Try to keep a schedule, it'll get uncomfrotable but after a week or two you'll be so used to taking 10-20 minutes off to sit still and meditate that you'll do it with ease.
>>19346 As cringe as it sounds, I downloaded an app. I hope it helps. I've been getting increasingly worse anxiety since I stopped my casual meditation 8 years ago. It's reaching a very uncomfortable point where even office work is becoming unbearable. I have stopped smoking weed completely because of my anxiety too.
>>19348 It's not cringe m8, just do your thing (though keep that phone off while meditating)
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>>10331 https://zmm.org/teachings-and-training/meditation-instructions/ Just do zazen and mindfulness on your own, it's difficult when you start but just keep at it. Be careful not to fall into any buddhist trap of making you pray and chant towards "deities" and shit, which is a danger with these guided meditations. If they say something to the effect of "light washing over you", end it there. Zazen meditation is compatible with atheism, other religions, anarchism, communism, etc. because it is all about you learning more about yourself, your mind, and so on. I mean, Zen is of course a religion, with structure, priests, hierarchy, blah blah blah, but the cool part is you don't need to take part or learn any of that if you don't want to, and still get the benefits of zazen. I attached some Crazy Cloud poetry for your reading pleasure.
>>11931 Link to it >>10312
is it normal to experience false sense of epiphany and generic smugness after meditation? I'll be quite honest : I don't believe in Buddhist/Hindi bullshit in wishing good well on all the living beings and am exclusively focusing on breathings and disassociation from my own emotions because that's what was recommended on book 10% happier. I think using meditation to calm my nerve has been beneficial but not sure if I am being ineffective / self-delusional by not following more traditional apprach

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