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Comrade 04/22/2016 (Fri) 15:26:19 No. 952 [Reply] [Last]
A leftist /tech/ board is great! Let's use it more, comrades!
Are any oldfags around who had the joy to come in contact with pic related or other micro electronics from real socialistic states? Sadly I was born too late to have a opinion on their products.

I read DDR lightbulbs were more durable than the western ones because they had no planned obsolesence; what do you think would our society today look like, if more elecronic products like smartphones were designed with a much longer lifetime in mind? Would the use-value of the products stay the same over time, or would it decrease with technical progress?
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>What do you think would our society today look like, if more elecronic products like smartphones were designed with a much longer lifetime in mind? Would the use-value of the products stay the same over time, or would it decrease with technical progress?

You get more standardisation, less form over function sacrifices (works better but has worse design), as far as durability goes , it depends long lasting batteries are just hard to make, what you definitely would get is better repairability.

For smartphones you'd probably would have seen magnetic field tracked pens (used in graphic tablets) rather then the currently capacitive touchscreens, because the magnetic pens are easier to make and more precise, Resulting in a renaissance of handwritten text and social/cultural trends/development around penmanship and quick sketches.

You'd probably would have seen a universal interface scheme, where all sorts of devices no longer would have buttons and nobs but rather an IR-port that turns your smartphone into a remote for everything. Also a much greater R&D focus on sensors turning smartphones in a portable scanner.

Since socialism has a sort of protected commons that isn't at risk of being enclosed, you'd see more people contributing to projects like user-generated "cartography" type stuff where people digitize "note-worthy" features of "meat-space". Enabled by the scanner functionality.

>Would the use-value of the products stay the same over time, or would it decrease with technical progress?

I'm not sure what you mean with this, you might get better backporting for software to run on older technology, because there aren't any IP laws blocking people from pruning software to make it run.
>>826
I've been trying to find some more information on the original systems operating in the Soviet Union. Especially those earlier systems that showed some promise and interesting features. I've been looking specifically at the BESM-6 due to the ample documentation available. The most interesting features to me are the system of modes, and bit packing, both of which seem very odd but interesting to me, oh also it's RISC which is nice. The CPU was also developed under the name Elbrus into the late 80's which is unique, and was reasonably competitive at the time. The Elbrus-3 which was a completely new ISA with novel VLIW capabilities was also competitive.
http://www.mailcom.com/besm6/
http://www.mailcom.com/besm6/instset.shtml
https://computerhistory.org/blog/the-elbrus-2-a-soviet-era-high-performance-computer/

Would any of you happen to have any information on the MIR «Машина для Инженерных Расчётов» machines? I'm struggling to find any information on them but they sound fascinating especially concerning "a hardware implementation of a high-level programming language capable of symbolic manipulations" which reminds me of the exceptional Scheme-48. Also it seems to be immensely capable for its size. Thanks in advance!
>>832
Unfortunately it seems there is very little information on this machine on the internet. I found a few Russian PDFs which I was not able to machine translate, and a few websites which I was, none very informative. It's extremely interesting though, here are the web pages I was able to find, you'll have to use Google to get translations unless you speak Russian though:
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/МИР
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Аналитик_(язык_программирования)
http://ukrainiancomputing.org/ITgl_r.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20121124182610/http://iprinet.kiev.ua/gf/mir.htm

Oh and hear is a interesting detailed website dedicated to the computers used in Soviet rockets. I haven't finished reading it yet:
https://web.mit.edu/slava/space/introduction.htm
>>826
Apparently someone managed to squeeze a UNIX V6 clone onto the BK-0011. I don't even like UNIX and I think that's pretty cool! https://github.com/sergev/bkunix
832
>Scheme-48
I meant SCHEME-79 here, which was a hardware implementation of Scheme Sussman, Steel and several others worked on together. Scheme-48 is a fairly standard Scheme implementation although it has PreScheme as a intermediate language which is a bit interesting.

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Code of Conduct(s) Comrade 09/24/2019 (Tue) 23:49:55 No. 923 [Reply] [Last]
Perhaps a declaration of technical principles would be a better term, but regardless the necessity of finding a means (beyond licenses out of necessity) to secure our software from outside meddling seems to be all the more essential the more I think about it. There are approximately 90 CVE's (70% due to memory safety) in each Linux kernel major version, many of which remain outstanding even after moving to the next version, with the average lifespan between 3 and 6 years for "high" and "critical" bugs. The Linux kernel is now approaching 28 million lines of poorly documented code, making it completely beyond what a actual audit is capable of assessing, beyond comprehension. More than this the development of the kernel and funding of the foundation are almost entirely in corporate hands. Linux is but a example, every large component of major infrastructure (and rest assured if it's major infrastructure it will become large) suffers from similar plights.

What I'm not attempting to advance here is the suckless philosophy. In my opinion suckless goes beyond attempting to restrict the scope of their projects to an obsession with SLOC to the point of harming correctness and completeness (for a sound list of necessary features see here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284). They do not document their programs, following the mantra that code is documentation (which is true but insufficient). Additionally they fail to critique the accepted protocols and divisions of applications, which would allow them to not only make more correct complete software, but also to make in aggregate simpler software. As a example why make a separate windowing system, terminal multiplexer, terminal emulator, and text editor when these things could all be combined as extensions of one another. Why separate your text editor from your web browser? Why work with text streams and the file system instead of having a single address space? Why take X-Server for granted rather than building of Linux's frame-buffer.

What issues is it that I'm pointing at here exactly:
a) scope creep
b) illiterate programming
c) unquestioned assumptions (primarily those given to us by unix)
d) over-optimization (understandability, and completeness should be prioritized over micro-optimizations)
e) insecure technologies (for example unassisted manual memory management, and unchecked type wraps)
f) incomplete software (corner cases handled etc)

Can you think of any more, or a consolidation of the terms listed here?
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>c) unquestioned assumptions (primarily those given to us by unix)
What are these "unquestioned assumptions given to us by unix"?
Should I read "The Unix Hater's Handbook" to know? Would I be better served reading something else?
>>866
>What are these "unquestioned assumptions given to us by unix"? Should I read "The Unix Hater's Handbook" to know? Would I be better served reading something else?
That's a great book, although at this point many of the complaints are outdated you can still see some of the impacts, I'd encourage you to read it. Reading summaries of the Unix philosophy critically after reading https://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html is also a good introduction.

The most important thing though I think is to just think critically about what Unix supports. Is it actually reasonable to say that every program should serialize and parse its data rather than just passing actual data structures? Is it acceptable that there are no safety measures making things as simple as moving, editing, or deleting a files foot guns? Is it tolerably that programs' source can't be inspected and edited live like in Emacs but rather we have to make forks and separate applications for even the most simple change, if we're lucky we have a cumbersome add-on system opaque to the user. etc.
>>857
I'm struggling to come up with a nice rule, or set of rules for what a good program's objectives should be. It's a much more complex issue that these issues of representation I've dealt with so far. It seems to me the most important semantic rule is that the program's objectives should be in the interest of their user. I can't really think of more than this.

I don't know if I'll leave it at that or not.
>>866
>>873
Here's a list of operating systems with a number of features better and more interesting than UNIX, TempleOS isn't listed here, but other than that seems pretty solid: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10957020
Guess I'll wrap up these principles into a nice toasty CoC:

>Thou shalt operate in the interests of thy users, this is the ultimate commandment. Thy users will not always know what's best for them, so we may disagree with them, but try as we must to serve them.
>Thou shalt make thy user interfaces as physically and mentally ergonomic as possible, while recognizing often we are not capable of making interfaces capable of providing this for every situation, and thusly must allow for customization. When thy hath been forced to trade off between the interests of the users and the interface or artistic direction thy will always side with the users. This is the penultimate commandment all else is tertiary.
>Thou shalt make thy source code including the entire stack as understandable as possible. Certain components likely must be complex to reduce the undesirability of the system over all. Thy shalt always sacrifice undesirability for the sake of the interface and the users, but never for anything else.

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Comrade 07/16/2016 (Sat) 08:45:20 No. 301 [Reply] [Last]
Who else spends his hard earned (or state given ;^) ) money frequently on commodity fetishes like M:tg cards? How is such behaviour to justify (there is no right living in the wrong)?

One pal of mine tries to get me into his rpg-group, and I'm honestly thinking about it, even tough I don't have much interest anymore in high fantasy-rpgs.

Any other non-vidya gamers around?
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I prefer real games like Hearts, Rook, Rummy, etc. Collectible card scams so blatantly favor the rich weak-willed that they can't seriously be considered games. Games that require one to "collect" the ruleset by buying individual pieces are disgusting examples of predatory capitalism. I'm surprised people don't compare Magic: The Gathering to the day-one purchasable DLC that video game enthusiasts despise so much.
>>329
>I'm surprised people don't compare Magic: The Gathering to the day-one purchasable DLC that video game enthusiasts despise so much.
But, they do? Day-one DLC can be anything, like strictly cosmetic things. DLC in single-player titles isn't the worst kind of DLC. The worst kind is when you have a competitive title and the DLC gives you an edge. The shittiness with Magic's business model is specifically that it's like that type of DLC, combined with gambling no less.

What would be a "socialist twist" to collectible card games? Caning. Perhaps going the opposite route. Adding extra cards to your basic set only makes you weaker, but if you win under these conditions, you can take a handicapping card from your opponent or something like that. These cards better be pretty. Or maybe we'll just rip off the existing concepts with the only difference that you can't buy the cards anywhere, instead kids get them for top grades or doing pioneer stuff.
>>331
>pioneer shit
I think by making a game out of merit badges one could really incentives participation. You could set up a points list where at each level you could save your points to redeem for higher level cards or spend them on lower items: in this way you could also implement some sort of lesson on the ltv.
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>>329
Traditional card games are boring as fuck though, part of the fun of MTG is the artwork, the story, and the increasing complexity of card effects and their interactions with each other. Although it won't ever fly in a store, I've had friends that build decks online and just print the cards out on regular paper and stick them into sleeves.
>>67
I played MTG everyday for a long time but I eventually got tired of it. I'm sure if I knew more people I'd be more into it again. I'd love to have an RPG group and play Vampire: The Masquerade that shits awesome

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Comrade 09/04/2019 (Wed) 15:34:15 No. 808 [Reply] [Last]
I know this is likely a common thread and shitty question, but where would a newfag baby socialist who wants to work on improving his general privacy start? And are there any good resources online for learning more about specific tech subjects (Obviously preferably free)?
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- block 3rd party cookies
- block 3rd party scripts (pic related, will break a lot of sites)
- disable referer header
- use linux and open source software
- don't reuse usernames
- dnscrypt or DNS-over-HTTPS
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/

Read up on these programs. Though many browsers are open source few actually collect zero data about their users. This is mitigated easily and should not be overlooked. If you're dealing with a nation state level threat you may well be fucked either way but it never hurts to take extra precautions, especially ones as simple as switching your browser.

Otherwise do as >>667 says
>>667
uBlock collects user data. You can turn it off but it’s on by default. I think something like NoScript is better.
>>661
> Use keepass to generate passwords for all websites
> Invest in an iron key USB drive usually costs between 40 to 80 bucks these are password protected flash drives that you can program to only open on certain computers, and can be bricked remotely. You can also set it up to brick itself if someone enters the wrong password.
> You want to have keepass on your iron key not on the desktop itself and certainly not on some cloud system.
> For security you want to have bit defender and Comodo firewall.
> Comodo is anoying as fuck but does the job of the fire wall pretty well for a free program.
> Use a combination of TOR and other vpns never pay for a VPN plenty of free VPN services that do just fine.
> Use a second iron key for your most secret of secret info
> Their are tons of programs that let you send encrypted emails for free but good luck setting this up with anyone from first hand experience most people will just call you crazy and refuse to download the decryption key.
> Find your routers IP address look it up on any browser a screen should come up asking for a username and password username is almost always admin password is almost always password from their change the password using keepass.
> Duct tape your face if all else fails

endchan.xyz Comrade 10/06/2019 (Sun) 15:38:12 No. 802 [Reply] [Last]
what happened to it?
I am in Canada btw. not sure if it's accessible elsewhere.
Domain losses and a server transfer. All at one of the most opportune times. I hope they can recover and try to be the 8ch successor they were supposed to be. If not, maybe it's time to aggressively push overchan on other sites.
>>861
its on the deep web too
here it is
http://endchan5doxvprs5.onion/
you need to use tor.
.net works

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Linux, BSD setups Comrade 08/09/2019 (Fri) 21:33:50 No. 757 [Reply] [Last]
Discuss what's your setup and collection of applications on your personal computers, smartphones, embedded devices, Industrial equipment, etc. for opsec that other anons could use.
Gnu radio for police chatter?
raspberry pi gps with security features?
Special ECM equipment you're willing to show?
Post them here.
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>>746
>Was wondering what Android/lineage build you guys would recommend, something thats reasonably secure (At this point just worried about companies stealing my metadata) and want to get rid of the adds that keep coming up in my shitty international version of android they've given me.
There is no such thing as a secure cell phone. Replicant is the closest you can get with android, but your device is not supported: https://replicant.us Looking around on XDA for you it seems like all your options are roughly equivalent in terms of security. Just get a official rom I guess.

>Cell phones are tracking and surveillance devices. They all enable the phone system to record where the user goes, and many (perhaps all) can be remotely converted into listening devices.
>>746
There is no such thing as a secure smart phone, install lineage OS on it to have a non shit version of linux, and turn it off when it doesn't need to be on, leave it at home when you can
>>823
*non shit version of android
Don't commodify your personal information. Everything is on a permanent record. Woke leftists are crypto-anarchists. Cyberpunk is now! Stop blocking Tor users!

>Computer:
OS: When your not into QubesOS, you should consider using a hardened Debian with VirtualBox running Whonix and for more OpSec running Tails from an USB-Stick.
Mail: Thunderbird with Enigmail and TorBirdy; provider: RiseUp, Autistici, posteo, protonmail, tutanota, disroot etc
Password manager: KeePassXC
Encryption: zuluCrypt
PGP: gpa or Kleopatra
Browser addons: uBlock, uMatrix, https everywhere, decentraleyes, Privaqcy Badger, User Agent Switcher, CanvasBlocker, Cookie Auto Delete
Cloud: NextCloud
PDF: Okular
Office: LibreOffice

>Smartphone:
OS: When you don't have a Google Pixel running GrapheneOS you should get LineageOS or any non-Google privacy enhancing AOSP. See https://www.xda-developers.com/
VPN Mode: channel everything through Tor via Orbot
Browser: Tor Browser, Firefox Klar (when you don't have
App Store: F-Droid (, Aurora, Yalp -> run Google Play Store apps only isolated through Working Profiles via Shelter)
Mail: K9
PGP: OpenKeychain
Adblock: Blokada
Spoofing: NetGuard, Private Location, Wi-Fi Privacy Police, MacChanger, SnoopSnitch
Messengers: Briar, Signal, Wire, Riot.im, TRIfA
Camera: ObscuraCam
Maps: OsmAnd~
Text: Markor, LibreOffice Viewer, muPDF
>>879
>RiseUp
They literally read your fucking e-mails to maintain their censorious terms of service.

Comrade 09/27/2019 (Fri) 19:22:42 No. 252 [Reply] [Last]
Is The Dark Knight overrated?
Yeah. Nolan's movies in general are overrated, desu
>>369
No, I think it's absolute garbage.
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>>369
Only good part of the trilogy

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Comrade 10/01/2019 (Tue) 18:48:19 No. 725 [Reply] [Last]
What are some Free Software projects worth contributing to?
>>848
your mum
>>848
>What are some Free Software projects worth contributing to?
That depends entirely on your skill set and interest comrade. So what to you enjoy and what are you good at? Just so you know hacktoberfest is being sponsored by digitalocean right now so it might be a nice thing to get in on if you're planning to do this anyway: https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/
desktop environments like KDE. they need more polish.
Bring window edge snapping back to Openbox.

Education Purrletariat 05/06/2017 (Sat) 20:13:09 No. 240 [Reply] [Last]
What should Education under a Leftist system look like? The current system obviously doesn't work as can be seen by the large amounts of dropouts and general scorn and dissatisfaction that is directed towards the system.

I'm personally leaning towards the Sudbury Model of Education, essentially the government, school, and parents have no say in what is taught (preventing bias and the brainwashing type of education in modern public and religious schools).
The school's rules as well as other actions are decided by a democratic "School Meeting" consisting of Staff members and the entire Student Population, each has an equal vote and the staff possesses no veto power. Meaning that the school is mostly run by the students, there is no curriculum and no classes, the students decide what to learn, how to do it, and can ask other students or staff for assistance if they wish.
There are no divisions by age or skill meaning that younger students can interact with older ones at will and vice versa, allowing for older students to act as big brothers/sisters to younger students giving them a chance to develop greater empathy and responsibility while giving younger students the ability to find mentors (that they can personally identify with, unlike the ones assigned under current mentor-ship or tutoring programs).

It's worked very well already in the few schools that have tried it:
[http://sudburyschool.com/content/sudbury-model-education]
[https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/12/no-teachers-no-class-no-homework-would-you-send-your-kids-here/265354/]

What would be other good ideas and ways to reform the current system?
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>the students decide what to learn

So the education plan is going to be set by who ever can influence students.

Is that going to be better ? Are you going to attempt to control this ?
>>132
>What should Education under a Leftist system look like?
Every year the Party Congress creates a highly centralized education circulum that students are forced to learn and if they don’t they are hit with rulers.
>>132
>I'm personally leaning towards the Sudbury Model of Education, essentially the government, school, and parents have no say in what is taught (preventing bias and the brainwashing type of education in modern public and religious schools).
The school's rules as well as other actions are decided by a democratic "School Meeting" consisting of Staff members and the entire Student Population, each has an equal vote and the staff possesses no veto power. Meaning that the school is mostly run by the students, there is no curriculum and no classes, the students decide what to learn, how to do it, and can ask other students or staff for assistance if they wish.
Except that kids have underdeveloped minds and can’t think or do stuff for themselves. They need people to tell them what to do and what not to do, and if need be punish them if they misbehave.
>>325
That's a really stupid position to have my dude.
>>386
>students decide what to learn
>lesson plan
You're not getting it.

Comrade 10/01/2019 (Tue) 03:56:35 No. 721 [Reply] [Last]
>>826
I've been trying to find some more information on the original systems operating in the Soviet Union. Especially those earlier systems that showed some promise and interesting features. I've been looking specifically at the BESM-6 due to the ample documentation available. The most interesting features to me are the system of modes, and bit packing, both of which seem very odd but interesting to me, oh also it's RISC which is nice. The CPU was also developed under the name Elbrus into the late 80's which is unique, and was reasonably competitive at the time. The Elbrus-3 which was a completely new ISA with novel VLIW capabilities was also competitive.
http://www.mailcom.com/besm6/
http://www.mailcom.com/besm6/instset.shtml
https://computerhistory.org/blog/the-elbrus-2-a-soviet-era-high-performance-computer/

Would any of you happen to have any information on the MIR «Машина для Инженерных Расчётов» machines? I'm struggling to find any information on them but they sound fascinating especially concerning "a hardware implementation of a high-level programming language capable of symbolic manipulations" which reminds me of the exceptional Scheme-48. Also it seems to be immensely capable for its size. Thanks in advance!
Shit, could a mod delete this thread please?
>>833
out of luck buddy, this board doesn't have an active BO and/or mods. gonna have to ask space
>>835
>out of luck buddy, this board doesn't have an active BO and/or mods. gonna have to ask space
That's kinda weird, I'll ask in >>>/gulag/, thanks for telling me.

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