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bunkerchan moderation Anonymous 07/30/2020 (Thu) 00:05:55 No. 5863
>inb4 move this to /gulag/ this has been a long time coming Mods, please unban the wojak script. I know it can be annoying but with the addition of the porky images to the wojak script its a great way to reply to pol/yps etc. I don't understand what the rationale is for banning the wojak script on bunkerchan, users should be free to post what they want unless its fashspam. TBH i've been very unsatisfied with the way bunkerchan is run. The users are what make it what it is, but every decision on moderation is made in some smoke filled room on irc/riot where the userbase is not consulted or even polled using strawpoll or whatever. The recent banning of the wojakscript, in addition to some of the overzealous anchoring of threads which discourages shitposting and memery. While Old BO is long gone, the impetus behind her moderation style is still there which is to ban anything that smells like fun and/or shitposting, every thread has to be some revleft-style serious theory thread or at least a prompt on current events. The decline of leftypol and leftypol's influence on the broader online left since 2018 is a direct result of this culture, as it disincentivizes shitposting, since 2018 leftypol has hardly created any memes at all, with the possible exception of a few cybercom memes. The meme culture is even more derivative of nu/pol/ than before. You can say this is partly the result of the userbase getting older but still. Leftypol is a very unique space on the online left since every other place is a reddit/twitter idpozzed hugbox where no fun is allowed. I like imageboards and the memes they produce and I also like having a place to discuss left wing politics which is not filled with radlibs and doesn't require me to make an account. It's unfortunate that bunkerchan doesn't really have an alternative that users can go, since leftypol.org is now merged in and GETchan is not widely used. Additionally there are the longstanding technical problems with scaling and the lynxchan board software which prevents the site's userbase from growing much faster and the incredibly slow progress on gochan. I'm sure every From a technical perspective the gochan codebase is frankly a mess, and it's pretty difficult to even get running if you download the source code. IMO the thing is a flaming shitpile and aside from certain things (like the ERD/database schema) that should be kept, it should probably be rewritten, possibly even in another framework or even other language. It's unclear that golang is the best language to write an imageboard in, but i digress. Again, these are all problems that have been widely known but although 75%+ of people here complain about it no one really cares enough to do anything else, as seen by the failure of leftypol.org (when it was an imageboard) which just became filled with incels and other schizos that got banned. Since no real alternative can be made the best that can be done is to beg the jannies to do their jobs and actually make leftypol a better place /rant
>>5863 >her
Someone needs to post a wojakmeme of this fag's entire post
I agree. We need to organise against mod tyranny. They are blairite incels
your shitty script was dragging the quality of the board down by like a solid 30IQ points
I’ve been saying this for ages and ages. We need as many people as possible to be as autistic as possible and push them to change their ways
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one minute
>>5868 I just stopped moderating instead tbh. And I was on the "libertarian" side of the mod team. You'd have to be a masochist to moderate for this abusive userbase.
>>5870 The user base did not start the abuse. Old BO did. The mods need to break the cycle of abuse
>>5871 "ok"
I never even used the script and never could have but don’t think it should be banned tbh It was funny With the chapos gone I assure you leftypol choosing to shrivel and die here will leave the Internet left solely to Twitter But then maybe the death of the online left will be a positive, who knows
The IRC is completely not used and you should join the riot channel.
>>5873 don't kid yourself the online "left" i.e radlibs on twitter will continue on for a long long time
Wojak spammers are worthless. Good riddance If you want wojak and pepe spam go to 4pol
>>5876 It’s funny. It’s a meme. That’s how memes work. On an image board
>>5867 the wojak script is an important weapon in the struggle against the mod team >Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary
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>>5863 Is there any reason why the wojak script makes people so butthurt?
Lmao it actually got moved to /gulag/ The division of boards is fucking cancer, threads that are relevant to the majority of the /leftypol/ community get shoved into hyper-specific cubbyholes because mods think a thriving community means a dozen isolated cliques that happen to use the same website
>>5877 Go back
>>5880 In the interest of transparency while maintaining board quality it's vital that this thread be moved underneath half a dozen stickies on a dead board.
>>5884 ironically it actually shows exactly what's wrong with bunkerchan nowdays, If this shit don't change i'm gonna probably just suck it up and go to left twitter or something. its fucking cancer but at least jack dorsey doesn't ban me for shitposting. I hope the jannies enjoy their no fun allowd hugbox of 12 autists
>The recent banning of the wojakscript, in addition to some of the overzealous anchoring of threads which discourages shitposting and memery. While Old BO is long gone, the impetus behind her moderation style is still there which is to ban anything that smells like fun and/or shitposting, every thread has to be some revleft-style serious theory thread or at least a prompt on current events. I voted for banning the wojackscript. I was against doing so at first, for the reasons you stated, but later switched votes. The main problem of /leftypol/ today is the dramatic decrease in quality compared to the first few months after arriving to the bunker, when we had fewer users. My contention is that this drop in quality is due to shitposting, like wojackspam or idol spam, drowning out productive discussion very easily. The effect only gets worse with more users. /leftypol/ can be a reliable source of insightful takes on the issues of the day, but such posts or threads are pushed off the board or drowned out in threads by low-quality bait and shitposts. The problem comes when someone says that those shitposts can also be a source of creativity or 'memery'. Which is likely true. However, the two types of posts cannot co-exist on a board with more than ~200 users. Those of us that have been here, can attest to this happening. While you might be right about there being too many divisions, I believe we have yet to make the right division. That of carefully curated, quality discussion and shitposting 'memery'. Perhaps a /leftyb/ board would solve this problem.
>>5886 You’ve got it all wrong. We make memes, that comes from shitposting. That brings people, who then make more content
And people don’t bother to make content that might get deleted. They also will put more effort in and get more responses from a large and varied audience
>>5863 A literal script that automates responses is not the fresh and new OC that is gonna draw people to the site. If you actually make some funny and interesting OC then by all means it won't be deleted.
>>5889 Tbh the disrespectful laziness of it is why I find it so funny to use on bait posts
>>5889 Memes are funny specifically by repitition
>>5890 You can’t expect a hammy to have a sense of humour
>>5890 >>5891 Well, you have shitty senses of humour then. By all means you can make a script which makes the wojakpost on your own local machine so you can laugh at it and move on.
>>5893 >memes arent funny when they get repeated <actually that is the entire point of memes >w-whatever your sense of humor is shit >leave my subreddit I am asking honestly, do you have autism? Not understanding humor in a social setting is autistic
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>>5893 >the amount of janny butthurt over an image of a man with a sparse beard crying over bullshit
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>jannies think this is spam
>>5887 >>5888 Memes and OC bring people here, but what keeps people here is the ability to talk about leftist politics freely and openly. That ability is impeded by shitposting. If left unchecked, we enter a death spiral like what happened with most boards on 4ch*n. If forced to choose between the creative openness and stricter quality control, it makes more sense to choose the latter. It's easier to open up to shitposting later, than to bring back the quality discussion once faith in it falls away. And we are working on the issue of board software.
>unban the wojack script ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS
>>5901 I'd agree but wojak posting is just out of control. It's everyone's new toy, and the spamming is unrelenting. There's nothing creative if the format is exactly the same a million times. If the spamming weren't as intense, I'd have no problem, but it's spam at this point. It's disruptive and gets in the way.
>>5901 coming from the mod team that banned people for discussing the class position of sex workers yesterday you don't want discussion you don't want OC you want the same tired rhetoric recycled over and over again
>>5902 You wouldn't believe how long it took me to actually get this passed. IDK what people see in it.
>>5893 oh fuck off. the script is hilarious and the fact that it was made here and didn't come from a /pol/ raid or something makes it funnier.
>>5905 It could be because of unironic autism answer the question >>5896
Do wojakdditors really believe their scrip will 'bring people here' lmao the delusion.
>>5905 Did the votes start coming in when someone started spamming it on the last day of voting?
>>5896 >>5907 There is no question, you just have a shitty ironypoisoned sense of humour. Yes memes involve repetition but they also involve iteration and difference (unless they're forced shit like Wojak). If you really want to make 'dank leftypol wojak memes' then at least edit them to fit leftypol memes. Like the porky wojak etc. In my opinion that is still shit and forced, but at least it's something.
>>5879 Because wojaks are so overused its gotten annoying for most people
>>5914 the script author was in the process of adding porkies to the script janni Maybe you can work out some sort of deal where he deletes non porky wojaks from the script (other than maybe the hitler one for responding to polyps)
>>5914 trying to rigidly define humor is also a sign of autism why do you avoid affirming or denying your autism spectrum disorder? this is a safe place, i promise not to bully you for your neurological disorders
>>5915 That's a major reason why I find it funny, it's automated a sizeable portion of what counts for memes nowadays. Too bad it couldn't get more developed to the level it's actually outputting at a standard that counts for most "OC"
>>5914 kys
The removal of wojak posters is a net positive for the board. Literally nothing of value would be lost if all wojak posters were perma banned forever. They literally don't bring anything to the table other than 'heh funny picture' posts.
the mod team has zero accountability, it is a clique of narcissists trying to micromanage their community to be "perfect" in their eyes they all have a zoomer discord mindset spontaneity is important for creative and thoughtful discussion but now I have to consult the mod's stone tablets to determine if I can even post
>>5921 >>5922 The duality of man
>>5922 this the jannies are essentially a bunch of petty zoomer discord tyrants
>>5925 What do you propose?
An entire thread thrown into the dumpster /gulag/ still attracts many complaints and the only acknowledgements is a mod saying we have shit humor and that they are right Even Kafka's castle had a better bureaucracy than this
>>5927 Integrate the wojak script into bunkerchan, ban jannies, incels, nazis, and sjws.
>>5928 Keeping the wojak spammers outside of leftypol is actually heroic tho, comparable to the battle of Stalingrad You dumbass savages do nothing but destroy and need to be kept OUT. Not only that but if let unhinged you reproduce like parasites and completely destroy the host, that can't be allowed.
>>5931 >>5932 >deleted Butthurt
If you don't unban the wojak script I am fully prepared to release my own, far worse script onto /leftypol/. The Settler-bot will automatically post quotes from Settlers whenever anyone mentions white people, slavery, racism, police, the proletariat and various other topics covered by Settlers. I give you three (3) days to unban the Wojakscript before I activate the settler-bot. Afters its activation, I will never turn it off, so you best act quickly. I have multiple proxy lists I use for spamming /tv/ on 4chan and I seriously doubt this puny ass mod team can handle what even 4chan modes have trouble with. Your CAPTCHA are hilariously breakable with decent software. Ever wonder why Krautchan switched to a stronger version? Its because these are insecure as fuck. At the very least, I will force you to turn on Captcha for every post, thus making /leftypol/ unbearable. So unban the wojak script before it is too late. Fuck the mods. Sakai-Incel out.
>>5937 turning on a captcha for every post might improve the discourse, go ahead.
>>5937 oh shit
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>>5938 Political power grows out of a botnet
>>5937 See how the wojak script only attracts these retards and schizos. The only mistake the mod team made was taking too long to ban it.
>>5944 you desperately need to go back
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>>5937 >Never thought I'd die fighting side by side with a sakaist
>>5945 I'll go back to leftypol soon and let you wojak spammers rot and seethe here alone
>>5937 >leftypol destroyed by the only black hacker in history
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>this is the kind of OC jannies like
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If we're going to go on about bots, why don't I adapt the Markov Chain bot I made for another imageboard to run here?
>>5951 Do it.
>>5951 Feels like we already have some of them posting anyway tbh
and the mods have successfully killed this thread by moving it onto a dead board and not respond meaningfully
>>5954 that was the point. they don't want to listen to feedback
>>5954 We responded. You just don't like the response. Too bad.
>>5956 based mod >>5954 soy wojaker
>>5880 Mods literally don’t know anything it’s so annoying. They aren’t qualified to do anything except be incels and they think they are next level theorists
>>5893 >you have a shittt sense of humour >he says removing something funny because it triggers him God damn the lack of self awareness is so frustrating with you retards
>>5901 You are a spastic and have directly contradicted yourself >people want to talk free and openly >so we should be incredibly restrictive in our policy. Stfu you people are actually just Brian dead retards. It’s just mindless spineless simpering self justification
>>5901 >quality control. Except the quality of the board has gone down. You have no measure of quality but “stuff I don’t liek” and what you like it fucking shit and you have no sense of humour this board is chads lead by incel spastics
>>5903 A meme is literally just a repeated image
>>5914 Your opinion is worth janitor and you have no rules which state you can remove something for not finding it funny. Also have you considered there are multiple types of jokes some you might not personally like? So now we all have to have the same none sense of humour as the jannirs or ban? You all really need to kill yourselfvs if that is the case
>>5915 >for most people You have no evidence that is the case that’s just your own opinion you are universalising
>>5916 It’s almost like funny memes are built gradually
>>5921 You are somebody who is triggered by Wojakcs clearly probably because you are a retard and they are used against you
>>5922 100% this mods need to go
>>5930 It was invented on the leftypol you stupid cunt
>>5937 Based code monkey
>>5944 Shut up mod scum
>>5956 Your response is retarded and you are retarded
>>5974 Yeah I sure am, just stay here seething and crying and don't infect leftypol with your dumb spam
>>5981 You cry so hard you move this thread from the board. You cry so hard you created this place. You cry so hard you can’t handle people making memes about you in an anon forum. You are like a soft little peach. A wailing little baby brat. A counterrevolutionary radllib narcissist
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>>5893 Well guys we did it we have finally become /r/socialism
Who knew the Wojak-posters were the Wojaks?
>>5901 You should know trying to reason with sage is like trying to reason with a brick wall.
I don't get it, the soy wojak is just a funny meme. It doesn't distract from discussion of leftist politics, you can just ignore them. Just scroll down a bit or press the little hide button. I find it hilarious how so many people get butthurt about this great little script.
spam is spam. Delete a post if it has no content.
>>6054 i have a feeling a jannie got annoyed at one of the wojakposters using the meme to mock them
>>5863 how do you do the wojak script
>>6054 The issue is that wide usage would make the ratio of signal to noise even more unfavorable.
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>>6021 It’s sad as fuck tbh. We are no different from Reddit. We have a pack of theorylet radlib mods who have never organised so much as a birthday party never mind workers, who have appointed themselves lifetime party leaders and will now dictate lines. Even though it would appear mods are basically the most retarded of posters, far from the best posters. All the good posters hate them and only simp cucks who are happy people won’t be able call them out on their retardation any more. A once great place now utterly cuccked, as with everything else on the left, by stuck up middle class brats who are here for their own amusement rather than working class revolution. >>6024 I’ve suggested many reasonable solutions to all these issues. The mods have been like “we blanket ban all idpol and also you can’t complain about it anywhere anybody will see, also you can’t communicate off board, because we are afraid that might lead to an erosion of our control, also, if you make memes about us we will ban your scripts... it’s totally about “board quality” and good ideology, not just some hot pocket retard being personal offended by some anonymous comments... yeh I’m the unreasonable one lol. >>6054 The only thing to get is touchy mods absolutely hate fun. They hate humour, they don’t want this place to be a fun hang out, they want a super serious Trotskyist student study group. >>6058 The have literally said this is the case. They don’t see the problem. Brick wall. Oh and one final thing, the mods will never answer. Do ANY Of YOU. ANY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, have any experience organising workers, at all? No. You fucking don’t. You have ZERO qualifications. Literally nothing qualifies you for this job but your own pig headed arrogance. Disgusting, the exact problem with the left, people like the mods are why Mark Fisher killed himself
>>6074 Why are you pretending to be retarded? There are at least two idpol threads on /leftypol/ right now. Including a settlers thread. What is it that you're being barred from speaking about exactly?
>>6074 seethe id/pol/ack
>wojak posters still seething Lmao
>>6077 >mods are retarded <um actually sweetie there is proof of mods not even being able to enforce there rules so take that! what did he mean by this
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>>5977 thats racist you nigger
I just noticed the thread I amde on this board about why /gulag/ should be deleted just got deleted fucking joke moderation team
>>5937 It's been three days, where is it lmao. ALL wojak shitters can do is CRY AND SEETHE lmao, absolutely castrated
nobody cards about your shitty wofag script
>>5937 based autist
>>6074 >by stuck up middle class brats who are here for their own amusement rather than working class revolution. Lol nice projection fag, anyone even remotely in-tune with reality knows that no proletarian revolution is ever gonna begin with an obscure Albanian bike repair forum. Oh and then you go on to say this: > they don’t want this place to be a fun hang out, they want a super serious Trotskyist student study group. So which is it retard? Is this a fun place to hang out and be entertained, or a super serious revolutionary movement? You can't seem to decide which one it is.
>>5867 And what quality. With high iq threads like slavery was whitey fault, delete steven pinker, unfunny memes, and x is bad the discussion quality is so high. Meanwhile if you try to open a thread which is not stem shit it where people participate it"s considered idpol. Can't even shitpost.
>>6125 >t. butthurt because his racebait thread got deleted
>>6126 >racebait What was racebait about that thread is beyond me. If you belive there shouldn't be any serious discussion about the thought process of nazi and liberals just say so. Don't call it idpol or racebait tho. Both liberals and nazi have a fetishism (both in sexual and non sexual way) for skin colour, and this is obvious after spending one minute on the internet. Thread could have been the same if i posted 50 shades of gray, I was interested in an analysis of ideology through pornography
>>6077 The mods complete failure to stick to the things they even say is completely retarded. In this instance, a good thing, but hardly a structure to rely on. >>6079 >>6102 >>6106 Mod simps, mods and people who got wojacked on so hard they burst into tears and needed it gone. >>6109 >everybody who knows anything None of you mods know anything. You have zero qualifications. Old BO admitted to getting shit off twitter and you are his dregs. None of you do anything in real life either. I’ve asked this question of you multiple times, the fact is you do nothing and have nothing but memes. You don’t know what effective organisation is. >which is it I have never said it needs to be one or the other. I have said it should be a fun place to hang out in order to attract people to have fun in a constructive way through doing propoganda. The organisation of which yes, should be done seriously.
Wojak shitters STILL seething lmao
>>6136 Cope
>>6136 mod simps still simping. Pathetic. i mean it would be if it wasn't just mods simping themselves. Which makes it ultrapathetic
>>6149 Holy seething
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>>6159 samefagging bitch
>>5889 >A literal script that automates responses is not the fresh and new OC that is gonna draw people to the site. If you actually make some funny and interesting OC then by all means it won't be deleted. There are many problems with this statement. First of all, you responded to criticism with criticism rather than answering the critique on your moderation policies on OC and memes. Second of all, your statement about how >If you actually make some funny and interesting OC then by all means it won't be deleted. This is provably false, as you can see in this post the banning of the wojak script isn't the first time you have stopped people from posting memes and OC. >>4376 Third of all, you have not shown any evidence of the wojak script being used as spam so unless you show evidence that the majority of people use the wojak script for spam then you have no right to say that the wojak script is being used for spam.
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if /biz/ can still allow pink wojaks on their site despite the bitcoin crash then you mods can probably handle a few soybois
>>6159 >seething mods self simping
>>5937 Its been like a week, where is it huh? Wojak shitters absolutely CASTRATED lmao, impotent, seething and crying.
>>6260 Tranny janny
>>6238 The wojak ban doesn't really make sense given that nobody spammed or mass raided the boards with it. It's just some banter between leftists that a janny apparently can't cope with.
>>6273 Holy seething lmao, crying so damn hard because you can't spam the board anymore lmao
>>6285 Those wojak memes really hit a nerve, huh?


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