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A rant about the moderation Sputnik##SgNipD 11/11/2019 (Mon) 16:42:42 No. 2657
I've already said this before on here but I may as well make a thread dedicated to it.

The mods on /leftypol/ are trash, extremely trash and I think the moderation team on this part of the site needs to be completely changed I know I'm probably pissing in the wind but in all honesty but one of the benefits and points to an imageboard is anonminity and the lack of a circlejerk, the mods don't respect either of these aspects and because of that this site has been seeing less and less users coming into this site the few users that do show up now are mostly redditors, remember that this place isn't Reddit nor is this the moderator's personal circlejerk and that was the main problem with the original /leftypol/ when it went to hell, not the fact that it was run by a tankie or something like that.

tl;dr the mods suck
>>2657
What exactly did we do to piss you off so bad? I believe in decorum but since certain members of staff are intent to drag everything into public, go ahead and say what you really mean. What did /leftypol/ vols do that offends you so much? Anchor your shitty no effort bait topic?
>>2658
Trying to control discussion is retarded that's why 8/pol/ and the rest of 8chan went to shit, it's why Reddit was shit it's not just about my thread and more about the way you guys handle threads in general and handle people who post here, it's not free flowing discussion which allows for better content creation, better banter and in general more fun.
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>>2659
What does that actually mean anon? Use your words, I can't respond to "the way you guys handle threads in general".

Like seriously, if you think this is tyrannical moderation, do you have any idea what it was like under OldBO even before he went insane? If they thought your thread was worthless for whatever reason they would just delete it, I'm at least sticking to anchoring the utter trash.
>>2657
personally, I have 2 problems with the moderation of /leftypol/

- banning Nazblols in the idpol containment thread.

- anchoring threads too liberally
some examples of this are: >>>/leftypol/116697 >>>/leftypol/121843 >>>/leftypol/119688 >>>/leftypol/120133 >>>/leftypol/121698
>>2657
>this place isn't Reddit nor is this the moderator's personal circlejerk and that was the main problem with the original /leftypol/ when it went to hell, not the fact that it was run by a tankie or something like that.
The tankie shit was always just the flavor of mod faggotry, but it did affect who got banned so it's not exactly irrelevant.

>>2660
Mods have deleted whole coversations in some threads. Not the threads themselves, but certain posts saying certain things, leaving up the other posts relating to the topic. That's how "controlling the conversation" works. You remove certain ideas from view so people can only pay attention to the approved ideas.
>>2662
>Banning Nazbols
Nazbols are only good if it's done ironically, otherwise it's just lampshaded fascism and we all know this, and don't pull the "it's just a different form of communism" card cause we all saw what happened to leftpol back on 8chan with all those nazbols. Holy shit that was a mess.
>>2665
What are you talking about, they were like a small minority that appeared for a few days in the first week of /leftypol/, afterwards it was just a gay witch-hunt for leftist nationalists
>>2666
he wrote /leftpol/ not /leftypol/. you're clueless.
/leftpol/ for much of its existence was 80-90% nazis larping as socialists. /leftypol/ not turning into that should really be the priority. Everything else is secondary.
>>2665
I just mean it for the idpol gulag. I'm fine with them getting banned If they show their reactionary tendencies outside of that dumpster fire.
>>2667
I meant to type leftpol dummy
>>2660
There it is, the spook of "oldBO" here to remind you that "yeah things suck but remember how much they SUCKED BACK THEN? wouldn't want that now would we?

You lot are a bunch of fucking imbeciles and are going to be the death of this site if you don't pull your heads out of your asses.
>>2669
So in your eyes /leftpol/ was totally fine?
>>2658
Also, You all just ignore everything being said to you and just keep chugging along like nothing is wrong. You totally ignore that users are pissed off about the current state of the site and just act like nothing needs to change.

It's fucking autism.
>>2662
banning nazbols period is a good thing and is set in the rules, there is no thread-exception to this
>>2671
Yeah for a week before it went to shit because of pressure from e-celebs and radlibs
>>2672
But what exactly is the problem? Can you try to explain it? Not the same guy btw, before you blow your lid again.
>>2674
yeah, nah, that wasn't the issue.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190804033907/https://8ch.net/leftpol/catalog.html
this is a capture of /leftpol/ on the second to last day of 8ch (bc on the 5th it was spammed to death lol) This is what lax moderation looks like.
>>2666
It was by far not a small minority, 90% of the time the front page of leftpol was "bye bye kikes" or "SJWs Are Literally Zionistas", my standard for measuring leftpol was seeing how far back the self-improvement thread got pushed back, and by the time 8chan got nuked it was on page 12 I think.
>>2670
OK, but how would YOU want it to be? A free for all with no oversight? You see individual posters only see the what's in their immediate thread or whatever, they don't gotta deal with the bombastic shit that's happening every second of every day. Poe's law is rule; you cannot physically tell if someone's being ironic, edging, lampshading, trying to hide fascist sympathies, or just straight up a fascist and nobody is doing anything. Sure we COULD give the benefit of the doubt and let them keep posting but what are the implications if it's not in good faith? We can't risk the site over someone's petty opinion, especially even if it's shit. You see there was a time when there was a hands off rule on that sort of stuff, but you had your fun time and proved you couldn't handle that responsibility. You can have that fun time back once you manage to convince every stormfag to stop raiding and lurking. And yes it is actually that much of a do-or-die scenario. Example: About 8 months ago back on 8chan for about a week straight a gore poster spammed the board, was banned about 350 times but kept using proxies, his posts started in support of a known TERF poster who kept on going on about Nazbol shit and bashing trannies faces in with baseball bats and had the writing skill of a 3 yo. Fast forward 3 months, said TERF fag turns out to be a "closet" fascist, admits he was the gore poster all along, and posts a bunch of SS imagery and said "bye bye leftytroon". What's important about that story? The fact that he was in full sight all along but in good faith he wasn't banned despite the obvious fascist sympathies. That's why edging is so bannable, cause chances fucking are if you show fascist sympathies, guess what, you're a fascist. As for idpol stuff, almost everyone calls the opinion they don't agree with idpol around here and is practically a useless term in moderation, we're much more concerned with stopping Monarchists, Ancaps, Nazis, Nazbols than we are radlibs cause it's a priority thing, radlibs and such don't raid or plan on going undercover, they're pretty easy to spot and dealt with with a single response. Don't like them? Just ignore them. See a nazi? Report them. That's how it works.
>>2674
Ya and that had its own containment thread.
>>2675
>leftpol
>"Atheism is bad" thread
I swear Neo-Paganism is the religious version of NazBol.
>>2675
>>2676


People just want like three boards, lmao. WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT?? I shouldn't have to fucking rationalize what should already be obvious.

Furthermore, the mod sticky is fucking CANCER
>>2677
like, whatever, make the boards.
>>2677
What 3 boards then? Could you please say a bit more than "somming bad plz stop bad"?
>>2677
Also if we made a board for every single sectarian thought or special snowflake opinion you'd basically just be making subreddits :^)
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>>2681(me)
<IDPOL CONTAINMENT BOARD
THE ABSOLUTE STATE
>>2676
>>2676
But the niggas that are gonna raid are gonna raid anyway as well as ban-evade, your justification story is meaningless, this place is leftist, run by them and owned by them, by taking a more hands on approach especially on an anonymous imageboard where everything is at least in theory supposed to be decided by the posters on this site not retards like yourself high on your own fumes pretending to be some last line of defence between this site and le evil fascist ANCAP terf maymays, if you want to take the role of guiding discussion on your end instead of just letting the posters at this site decide then argue then what's the point of this place being on an imageboard and that's why you're called a janitor you're supposed to clean up the spam and function in the background
>>2684
But the internet is srs business right Mr liberal moderation man ?
>>2684
So since you can't some up with ANY specific examples, you're basically full of shit?
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>>2686
specific examples of what; the raids ? there were plenty of those from /pol/ on /leftypol/ during the days of the retard and his merry men, these were times when moderation was much more active, if people have proxies and you ban them they're probably just going to use another one, banning people who subscribe to anything you deem ""reactionary"" is not gonna protect you or the board from that because people with proxies that raid korean cavedrawing social networks probably have extras, what you do is unnecessary and kill banter.

tl;dr you're a stupid nigger and you should consider going back to reddit
When the mods quietly delete posts to steer the conversation like some glow in the darks is especially cringe.
Like you don’t think we remember what was just posted. You don’t think people don’t notice responses to deleted posts?
FUCK NIGGERS
I HATE NIGGERS

NIGGERCOCKEIDBFISNDNF
>>2666
Have you considered that you're a huge faggot who deserves to be banned and should go kill yourself tho?
>>2684
>>2687
>banning raiders is pointless because they'll just use proxies
That is some seriously flawed logic and utterly retarded, it's obvious you don't know a single thing about what you're talking about.
>>2688
Check the logs those posts weren't deleted by the mods, they were deleted by the users who posted them, my guess is double post or typos or something.
>>2687
so your solution to attacks is to lay down and rot?
rules state reactionaries gotta know their place
it has always been this way
if we went by your ill logic, /leftypol/ wouldn't have been created in the first place
we could've just stayed on /pol/
oh wait, that's not how it works
you're wrong and retarded
>>2693
/leftypol/ was created when people fled 8pol because 8pol banned leftists and ""degeneracy""
>>2691
not saying that banning raiders is pointless i'm just saying that people with a reactionary thought or view doesn't always equal a raider and shouldn't be banned on sight and that you can't really do anything to prevent them, they'll just happen and you'll have to ban them when the time comes, try reading more than the first sentence of my post you absolute redditor
>>2690
have you considered going back to reddit and dying horribly in a fire ?
>>2695
>don't ban reactionaries
ah yes I forgot reactionaries are famous for being reasonable fellows who can be debated and reasoned with on diverging opinions.
>>2695
>>2696
>redditor
>go back to reddit
<everyone I don't like is reddit
Just stop please.
>>2695
>>2666
I'd just like to point out how you saw nothing wrong with /leftpol/ and the NazBols running wild there and are trying to say that we should let more reactionaries in or at least tolerate them. Just a little bit fitting and/or prophetic.
>>2698
I've stated before I'm against the circlejerk anon.
>>2697
You can still focus on the dying horribly in a fire part, I believe in you !
>>2699
>I'm against the circlejerk
Not even what I was talking about, I was talking about the part about how you were completely oblivious to how fucking infested with literal fascists leftpol was while advocating for letting in said fascist cause "if you kill the fascists they win", it's fucking ironic is what it is. Also is the fact that you're complaining about circlejerks while namefagging and circlejerking about mod tyranny.
>You can still focus on the dying horribly in a fire part
Not even the same person, fyi not everone is reddit and the same person.
Not the same person
LIBERALS ARE REACTIONARIES
Everyone who writes things like left-ish/liberal-ish is a radlib. They always cry crodocodile tears about muh pol takover even though in the west since ww2 this happened to practically no socialist org while almost all of them were infiltrated and taken over by liberals. They are the far bigger threat.
>>2701
Liberals are much more subtle and wlling to superficially blend in, the rule of "cloaking" should be used on them primarily but it's a rule that lets the vol do whatever he wants and many are self-described as liberal-aligned.
>stop banning fashies
>also ban those libs
cool story, /pol/
>>2702
and yet you manage to screech "radlib" at anyone who isn't a retarded larper like you and stands out for you as an obvious disturbance, how curious
>>2702
Ok liberal
>>2703
i like the idea
>>2657
it's awful, half the bolivian thread is a single fake bolivian polyp shitposting and ppl answering his shitty takes. When people start sectarian infighting out of the blue with no added value they just leave it until the thread is good for garbage.
When someone start being an obvious bad faith actor spouting propaganda, just fucking ban him ffs.
>>2670
for me its simple, moderation was straight better under old bo, who had no qualm about banning low effort sectarianism, redlibs & pseudo anarchists spouting propaganda. All our mod team seem to hate his guts. I find the moderation lackluster. Is there any link you guys think ?
>>2684
>>2684
>that are gonna raid are gonna raid anyway as well as ban-evade
what the fuck am I reading. "Don't ban ppl they ban evade"
>this place is leftist, run by them and owned by them
I have doubts, and I don't quite agree with many leftists branches
>not retards like yourself high on your own fumes pretending to be some last line of defence between this site and le evil fascist ANCAP terf maymays
wtf. He expose a clear example of a problem with too light moderation and all you can do is sperg out insults
>>2699
ok, are all our mods so shit ?
>>2719
people look back on old-BO being bad simply because he did the whole banning of pro-imperialist posts, shitposts and implemented the word-filter and character count but the mods here only take away the fact that the BO is bad because he was a tankie or some shit not because of the fact that he tried to kill banter and shitposting on an imageboard
>>2720
i'm not saying don't ban people because they ban evade i'm saying to not ban any shitpost or whatever the mods deem crypto-whatever because they could be deep-cover raiders
>I'm not saying don't ban people
>I'm saying to not ban any shitpost
That's clearly not what you said and nobody even mentioned banning shitposts nor is there any evidence that people being banned were "just shitposting" also you advocating for not banning cryptos, again, need I remind you of your ignorance of how shit leftpol became because cryptos took over? MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE AS BLIND AS A BAT YOU IGIT
>>2724
calm your autism and most of you guys can't tell the difference between cryptos and shitposting
>>2725
>I was only pretending to be retarded
>>2728
where did i say i was pretending ?
there's reactionaries and /pol/acks getting bans
for one week
i don't remember it being this short under old BO, especially for those guys when they were "derailing" or "low effort spamming"
and the evasion ban just reinstating the original length of a week
what's up with that?
>>2730
Most of those guys don't even use the same IP, they will just switch, so giving them a 5 year ban just potentially fucks with other people who happen to get on the same ip. If the person actually sits there for 1 week and comes back and tries to make better posts, that's fine IMO.
>>>/leftypol/126760
THE TRANNY MOD IS MAD
Point and laugh at it!
>The mods on /trannypol/ are trash
Based
>one of the benefits and points to an imageboard is anonminity and the lack of a circlejerk, the mods don't respect either of these aspects and because of that this site has been seeing less and less users coming into this site the few users that do show up now are mostly redditors
Absolutely and utterly based.
All the posters on trannypol are morons that migrated from r/Cumtown and r/ChapoTrannyHouse after they got quarentined, reason why the podcasts are brought up so frecuently on the board.
>>2733
Redditors must be shot
>>2733
Maybe you should try not to sperg about trannies in outside the idpol containment thread? You do know that a bannable offense to derail thread with idpol, right? There's 4chan /pol/ for that, you know?
Haven't you got anything better to do with your time though? Have you tried to read some books and make good posts for example instead of sperging about trannies?
>>2733
oh no, the oppression you suffer
you poor victim, you're really cool
please tell me more
>>2735
>some retard keeps spamming ""trans rights"" meme on /ig/
>people tell the retard to fuck off
>immediately get deleted and banned

okay, nigger.
>>2737
nobody but you is talking about /ig/, retard
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>>2738
the post that the other guy was referring to was in /ig/ retard
>>2735
>sperg
>sperging
You are asking for it at this point, aren't you?
Why do you hate me so much you fucking troon, who hurt you?
No wonder both the mikuposter and satan kun despise you.
>>2753
>troon

Fuck off back to Kiwifarms, you're the one who doesn't belong
>>2754
>troon is seething
Go commit 41%
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>>2754
>muh kiwifarms boogeymen

gay
>>2754
Troon is from Something Awful, not Kiwifarms
>>2758
Same difference
>>2760
Ok boomer
>>2740
It's horrible
>janitors
>deleting my effortposts as 'idpol' and banning me for trying to improve the quality of their shitty board
Name a more iconic duo.
>>2835
Who the fuck talked directly about incels pask you disgusting furry?
>eugenics is not considered idpol, but antieugenics is.
Really makes you think.
Seems like you already have your dialectical sintesis out of your thesis and antithesis
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So do you cuck fear us and why? Remember we are everywhere u are nowhere and slowing drowning in your own fecal matter
>>2840
You're on the wrong board dumbass, go to /leftypol/
Can you please ban tranny poster in the Gender cyclical. He has been spamming the board with the same five studies that he thinks support transgender sterilization. Several of these studies have already been addressed (most of them were of populations of 70 or less people) but he persists and he has been told that he is spamming and that it's against the rules and that if he wants to reference the studies again to simply link back to an early post or only quote the relevant study. Instead he posts all 5, clearly trying to push away posts that rebut him further up the thread where they are less likely to be seen. >>187456 >>187680 >>189096 >>189110 >>189118 >>189798 Oh and here he has straight out said he doesn't care that he is breaking the rules on /leftypol/. >>189798 >The only reason why this hasn’t turned into a mess is because so far trans anon is the only one breaking the rules. >again I don't care about the rules He's been doing this for over a week and mods haven't banned him.
>>3867 >>3869 >He has been spamming the board This is only in one thread and I don't think this is spam.
>>>/leftypol/190799 Why was this user banned? Is it because he triggered the mods? >>3870 Posting the same post over and over again is not spamming?
>>3870 Posting the same content endlessly is spam.
>>3871 Shitposting is bannable
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>>3874 So spamming like mad is fine, but a little bit of humour is bannable? Riiiiiiight.
>>3874 >Shitposting is bannable Back to Reddit.
>>3871 >Posting the same post over and over again is not spamming? It's not the same post, that wall of text is basically the same as placing a link to a previous post. Is it annoying? yes. Is it spam? probably not.
>>3877 It was the same post.
>>3878 No, it's not these post >>3869 all include the same wall of text. But they also include different elements.
>>3879 >Adding a bit of window dressing to a spam post makes it not spam My spam filters say no.
>>3880 can you define spam
>>3881 A set of highly repetitive messages sharing a common theme.
>>3879 >all include the same wall of text. Then it's spam. If you want to use a wall of text again then he should just use a post link. It's been obvious that there a clique of radlib mods that hate the gender/incel cyclical and are letting the tranny anon break the rules in a passive aggressive form or retribution on discussion that they don't like.
>>3877 >It's not the same post, It is the same exact wall of text. Nesting in other responses doesn't make it not spam. Also when he posts that wall of text none of it directly applies to the post he's responding to. This is just /pol/ tier Black Crime stats brigading.
>>3881 >can you define spam When you post the same set of messages to respond to mostly non-related posts. Putting it in the middle of novel posts doesn't make it now spam. If you wanna see what spamming leads to head on over to 4chan's /pol/ where every thread is "DA JOOZ" and "Even though they are only 15% of the population...". People want a discussion, it's interesting to see other people's point of view. You're not changing anyone's mind on a Mongolian Finger Puppet Enthusiast Board.
>>3885 *Putting it in the middle of novel posts doesn't make it not spam.
>>3875 It's not humour, you're just being a dumb asshole and spreading alt right memes
>>3885 >You're not changing anyone's mind on a Mongolian Finger Puppet Enthusiast Board. Also I object to the idea that we shouldn't attempt to actually prove any points on here, if someone posts a reliable metanalysis of scientific studies, you should be able to explain why that's wrong if you're actually right. If you're just going to deny actual evidence and argue what feels right you may as well just be a climate change denier.
>>3888 >if someone posts a reliable metanalysis of scientific studies, Meta analysis aren't scientific and aren't reliable. Something that's been explained to you over and over again. Meta science is feel>reals and is being used to push what ever social agenda is en vogue.
A tranny mod perma-banned me for posting idpol... in the fucking idpol thread.
reddit is a bigger threat to this site than /pol/ change my mind
>>3889 How is a consensus of peer reviewed studies not reliable?
>>3903 It’s not a consensus, especially with softer psychological studies.
Can we get a mod to ban this user for threatening to dox anons. >>>/leftypol/210852
>>3899 you clearly don't have one to begin with
>>3963 t. reddit
mods have a faster ban reflex against comrades than reactionaries, literally got banned for "unspoilered porn" because I misclicked the spoiler button, all while the incels managed to stick around for 3 months before anything was done. I fucking hate the moderation, if it weren't for the comrades I swear there would be no reason to come here.
>>3973 t. /pol/
I am starting to agree with OP. This is getting excessive. >>4630
>>4631 >I am starting to agree with OP. This is getting excessive. Not surprising because the OP of that thread is yourself.
>>4634 What? Yes exactly. I mean THIS OP! >>2657
You’re right OP, these faggot mods deserve the fucking wall Goddamn faggots welcome Nazis but ban shitposters, there are trees meant just for them
>>4665 t. newfag
>>4673 Eat rat poison and bleed out you fucking fag, I’ve been browsing this place since April of 2019, honestly just tired of jannies pretending that they aren’t pathetically simping for fucking /pol/fag worms when they put a bullet in every liberal idpol thread but let every faggot Nazi thread ride high as fuck accumulating answers and spreading their dirty /pol/ faggotry as tho talking to these people changes a fucking thing How the fuck do you call yourself a communist, then try looking cool so fascist pigs like you, then not shoot yourself in fucking shame (especially when said fascist pigs are pathetic fucking losers, baby boomers, or literal fucking feds)?
>>4681 >I’ve been browsing this place since April of 2019 newfag confirmed The "nazi" you're arguing with has been here literally 5 times as long as you. I've change my positions on a lot of issues on things and stuff I from pdfs that I found here where part of that. I came in as a black flag anarchist who flirted with mutualism and other crypto-ancappery and am now a full blown armchair. I gotta ask. Are you like a former /pol/ack or something? Or where your parents killed by attomaffen? This vitriolic attitude kinda makes it seem like you've blown the fascist threat way out of proportion in your head and are on some kind of crusade to rid /leftypol/ of ebil nazis
>>4682 No, I’m on a mission to find out why the FUCK I’m banned for a FUCKING MONTH for incel posting one comment in one thread when actual faggot Nazis have full free range to post whatever despicable shit they want You think I wanna be in this stupid fucking gulag talking to you rn?
>>4683 Which post?
>>4684 It was a comment on /IG/ from 10 days ago, it’s def gone by now
>>4685 What's your ban ID?
>>4686 5e846bee904132bb81875
>>4687 You should be able to post now.
>>4688 Thank you based vol I take back my harsh language
This is the most rulecucked imageboard by a huge margin
>>4691 This, even 4chan's /pol/ allows for more dissension.
>>4683 LMAOOOOOO... the antifascist cuck is an incel. Color me suprised.
>>4695 So what's your problem with antifascism, avatarfag, I noticed you didn't answer that? Don't tell me you're yet another third position retard after all those words words words in /edu/. Also you are obviously talking to different people, stop dragging your personal feud everywhere.
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>>4696 Read bordiga
>>4697 so you can't keep two thoughts in your head simultaneously? Wow, your sect of leftcom is even more imbecilic than I thought possible, if that is actually their position.
>>4695 That isn't me you stupid fucking nazi. No wonder you're angry I exposed you, because you yourself can't tell one poster from another.
>>4703 my bad, sorry >>4696 >>4698 >so you can't keep two thoughts in your head simultaneously See, here's the thing. If it was just about what opinions you can have then you would be right. Unfortunately we don't live in some ideal plane. We inhabit bags of flesh and in meatspace there are finite resources for us to use. Idk if you've ever been a part of an IRL org or not but resources tend to be very limited. There is absolutely a choice to be made between focusing on building independent working class politics, and engaging in antifascism. In 2015 and 2016 there was a groundswell or grassroots working class organizing. This centered around the Bernie campaign (which has huge problems, I know) but there where a lot more people turning out to political events, coming to socialist meetings, etc What did the liberal media do to respond to this? They gave little to no media attention to this, and instead opted to air what was apparently a looming, imminent fascist threat personified by Richard Spencer, the alt-right, and the Donald Trump campaign. I don't know about you, but I fell for it, and so did most of my comrades. The organizing I was doing shifted towards countering this rising tide of fascism, because it seemed like a very real and very scary prospect at the time. We started putting almost all of our resources towards organizing counter demos to shut down these nazi rallies. However, time after time, when these rallies came around the turnout on our side was huge, and the turnout on the "fascist" side was almost nonexistent. The hobgoblin in that comic? That is me--and maybe you and the communist movement in general--but the point is that I fell for it time and time again. Turn out, this rising alt-right was a media concoction. NPI and TRS and the Daily Stormer have been around for quite a while. They did see quite a surge in numbers and interest, but the reason for this was that they where being given an absurd amount of media coverage. Richard Spencer got interviewed fucking everywhere. There where some new groups that where formed like Identity Europa and Patriot Front but these pretty quickly degenerated into pyramid schemes. The point is that fascism in not distinct from liberalism. It comes from internal conflict within the petite-bourgeoisie. If the ruling class fears that the working class movement is about to seize power then they will pass over the reigns of the state to their more militant elements (the fascists). Use the bone to slay the hobgoblin you could say. If they can get away with it though, they will instead prop up fascist movements with funding and media coverage to freak people out and get us to stop putting time and resources into whatever it is they don't like (in 2016 it was the Bernie campaign) and instead go bash the fash. Get it????
What’s with this fucking arbitrary retarded moderation that happens here? Why tf would this thread be bumplocked vols?? >>436378
>>4737 So turns out the Jannie that killed my thread did so because they agree with the neo-malthusian belief that the human population has to be lowred or curbed So I must ask Why are /pol/ users, or those that believe in their general ideology, modding leftypol
>>4738 Reminder that the forces of Idpol will claim the base of leftypol is either reactionary or liberal deppending on the situation to push their agenda of identity politics
>>4738 >muh malthusianism Fuck off pseud
Hey I got permanently banned from literally all of Bunkerchan because I had a single mental breakdown on /GET/ and just think that’s extremely excessive, I use the website all the time and think a vol racistly conflated me with the Sakai troll because I’m black, in reality I have severe BPD and put out decent threads in /leftypol/ and don’t see how it’s fair to be banned from every board because of how I acted in a single board once
>>4787 >sadist black male Based, welcome to the banned Nazbol gang now. Looks like you had bad beef with your exes and they've permanently mentally scarred you. Your looking for a lover that won't treat like shit while trying to force her to unrequitally love you so you don't have to go through another one of those breakups yet again and if you do it will be on your terms. The fact that it's a white girl most likely means that you like white women and not any of this "misogyny" bullshit those FA/GET/S are trying to claim. Most likely you can't carry out your revenge on your exes through legal or extralegal means safely so this is your mind telling you a alternative way. Apart from that you might need some type of counselor because I don't think anyone could be in such a abusive relationship for so long before leaving you and you'll be on a tightrope of the women claiming domestic abuse. I believe your goal is to make certain that the object of your love won't leave you and abuse you and it is important to take advice from other like minded people on who to go forward to acquire that goal. Maybe look up some sadist forums on how they get full control of their M's and not in the bed but in all aspects of social life.
What was the point of the software update to be able to move threads when the mods don't even use it? Move >>197398 to >>>/hobby/ or /a/ Move the country/region-specific cyclicals to >>>/ref/ Move tech threads to >>>/tech/ Move lit threads to >>>/edu/ There's no reason for /leftypol/ to be so clogged. Every time shitpost threads gets anchored it drags quality threads with them by inertia and anons not usually keeping track of ~5-7 pages of /leftypol/ at once (for good reason). This means effort threads continuously die prematurely for a problem that has apparently been solvable for some time now (mods able to move threads yet not doing it). Please attend to it.
I just got banned from leftypol for a month due to “ban evasion” but I wasn’t banned to begin with, what the hell is going on?
>>4880 I also re-read the mod logs and realized I was banned for evasion literally two minutes after the initial ban, meaning most likely the vol banned one comment and then looked for another one to mount on a month for good measure
Moderation is actually pretty good compared to elsewhere.
You guys are fine. It's not easy. Eat pizza rolls, not hot pockets.
never in my life have I seen "good moderation"
>>2718 mods are really shit at banning sectarian shitflingers >>2719 this, I never got a post deleted or banned, but I didnt see quite as much sectarian wrecking, lib US state dept propaganda, and obvious bad faith polyp trolling staying up during old bo days
Can moderation ban bump-fags? Like nigga I've been reporting people reviving dead (and absolutely useless) threads out of spite and mods aren't doing shit.
>>5216 They only delete posts that trigger them personally.
I know that for some it may be only distraction, but I fell I need to rant about this. Why threads like these: >>>/leftypol/688085 are still up? They are bringing people that spite this site to shit up the whole board. And we literally have more potential on fucking twitter that on board dedicated to hate communist that is full of braindead boomers. Damn, if atleast it was /lit/ or something....I dont know if I am wrong in this, but I think these tryhard threads should be atleast anchored to the shadow realm
>>5394 It's called raiding, a long time past-time by channers, and for /leftypol/ our main target tends to be reactionaries. The point is to sow fear and paranoia while sharpening our arguments and testing our memes. We also give any /pol/ newfags the chance to convert and, give /leftypol/ newfags the chance to experience the first-hand knowledge of baiting /pol/ into traps and rants. SUre, they might come on this site but A) that gives us more PPH B) the mods tend to be good at taking out nazis (even being overzealous) C) It gives us more attention and subsequently more exposure to people.
>>5399 What a stupid reasons. Like a said, why not focus on a better places like /lit/? There are better place to advertise your garbage site than a fucking /pol/. And you can sharpen your arguing skills directly on /pol/ without cloak of raid. And with the conversion argument, motherfuckers threw tanturums when there was couple of chapofags coming on this site but somehow theres potential in the people that hate you instead. And artificialy inflating pph for couple of minutes aint big win either
>>5401 >/lit/ Yeah m8 you've either never been there or you're deep in that shit, because A) boards like /lit/ /a/ /his/ and others are all used by /pol/yps or people with similar ideologies, As proven by trying to post anything communist in either, threads are either deleted or bumplocked and spammed with angry "communism doesn't work" faggots, and since they're not a shitposting board like /pol/ replying in kind ges you a ban, since the mods want that.
>>5401 > There are better place to advertise your garbage site <YOUR Cope /pol/yp
>>5401 >you can sharpen your arguing skills directly on /pol/ without cloak of raid Not really, most people won't go there on their own time because its a fucking mess. A raid helps because since there are more than 1 communist poster, you won't get swamped by shitposts that you can't reply to in time.
>>5399 >It's called raiding, a long time past-time by channers, and for /leftypol/ our main target tends to be reactionaries We aren't on 8chan anymore faggot. And even if we were, by the end of the 8chan era we already saw that the /pol/yps had gotten far more radical and extremist in their outlooks than they were when we used to poach large amounts of users off them and convert them to leftists. They aren't your fucking Ron Paul loving ironic fascists or whatever easy-to-dismantle meme ideologies they had in the past, they have a virtually religious dogma towards insane shit like Qanon and other far-right conspiracies and the idea that these people that are so pathologically online and schizophrenic are convertible or even useful after the fact is just fucking insane. 4/pol/ is worse than even 8/pol/, it's literally no different than if you tried to convert people from fucking r/The_Donald.
>>5399 >PPH >not quality >overzealous mods >please be gentle to the nazis >exposure to people >implying nazis are people you don't target the most retarded sections of internet faggots for "converting" you fucking mongoloid
>>5697 >>5700 1) good job answering a post from a week ago when its no longer relevant 2) We're still a chan idiot 3) /pol/ is more than just nazis. Sure a lot of them are stormfaggots, but some are just youthful fools who are still ignorant and we can turn them away from the darkside before they join it. >please be gentle to the nazis <implying that mods don't make mistakes and ban people for bad reasons Learn how to orange text nigger. >not quality LOL board quality would probably improve as they would unite against a common foe instead of constant infighting >it's literally no different than if you tried to convert people from fucking r/The_Donald. You clearly don't realize that r/The_Donald are a lot less fascistic than actual /pol/niggers m8.
>>5721 i'd rather convert /pol/ people than /r/the_donald types
>>5739 How irrational.
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Can someone defend this ban? It was my literally only post in the conversation about ethots and I got banned because I don't uncritically support people who sell nudes and panties online
>>5748 >sex workers are capitalists They not capitalists, and they aren't petite-bourgeois either. Your take is conservative and pretty retarded. You don't need to "uncritically" support anyone, but you're just wrong and spreading conservative hate for no good reason. Your ban has expired already.
>>5750 They specifically profit off of limiting access to a commodity i.e. intellectual property i.e. a form of property The conversation wasn't about prostitutes or sex workers it was specifically on people who live off of selling nudes which I contend is not sex work and is certainly not proletariat You proceed to 1. not address their rentiership 2. not even read my post because I said onlyfans thots are capitalists not sex workers in general just like the janny did 3. can barely read because the ban expires in 3 hours not already but sure just call my take conservative and retarded and shut me down Tell me, will the socialist utopia have copyright laws? Will there be people who profit off the artificial scarcity of commodities such as movies, pictures, and books? These are all objects which cost nothing to reproduce therefore their cost should be zero and why places such as the piratebay and libgen are a boon. Do you really think a group of people whose entire scheme is predicated upon copyright law will support those that want to make their occupation unprofitable?
>>5751 I'm the vol that banned you. >onlyfans thots are capitalists Selling/renting your body or pictures of you doesn't make you a capitalist. This is just a wrong take which is being used to justify hate. >can barely read because the ban expires in 3 hours not already Oh ffs, forgive me for not seeing the GMT-4. >will the socialist utopia have copyright laws? Literally irrelevant. ought/is. >Do you really think a group of people whose entire scheme is predicated upon copyright law will support those that want to make their occupation unprofitable? Yes.
>>5751 To answer your shitty takes on /IG/ thread. >That means JK Rowling is a QUEEN PROLE. btfo! Most people on onlyfans use it to pay for basic shit, like college, rent, and health related costs. Pretending that most people who sell their images on onlyfans are petit-bourg is frankly ridiculous.
>>5752 >Selling/renting your body or pictures of you doesn't make you a capitalist. This is just a wrong take which is being used to justify hate. >Selling/renting >doesn't make you a capitalist. You're a fucking joke you know that? There is absolutely nothing tying these people to proletariats: they don't have their surplus value extracted. they own their own means of production, they don't exchange labor for a wage. Meanwhile they accumulate wealth from exchanging, for money, commodities that only have value because of copyright law that benefit solely the bourgeoisie. Take a hypothetical, Belle Delphine hires a professional photographer for $40 dollars or whatever, gets pictures taken of herself then proceeds to take these pictures and sell them online making let's say $4000. This is a textbook case of labor exploitation but suuuuuure onlyfans posters are 100% prole >Do you really think a group of people whose entire scheme is predicated upon copyright law will support those that want to make their occupation unprofitable? >Yes. Well then praise comrade Rowling, I mean after all she is doing the same thing. She could have released the harry potter series online for free and release it into the public domain, but she kept it under IP law lock and key and became a millionaire off of it. Truly she has the same material interest as the of the proletariat fuck you, resign janny
>>5753 >Most people on onlyfans use it to pay for basic shit, like college, rent, and health related costs. I literally do not care, I would have an issue with capitalists even if they donated all of their wealth away leaving only the bare essentials for themselves The fact that you think the issue with capitalists is one of scale is fucking laughable to your understanding of marxism also that isn't me in the eceleb general, afterall i am banned and would never engage in ban evasion :)
>>5753 >Most people on onlyfans use it to pay for basic shit, like college, rent, and health related costs. LOL did you not hear about that one chick who was able to buy a farily large house just from her onlyfans money? Sit down.
>>5752 >justify hate. Thats literally the argument radlibs use.
>>5754 You're wrong, anon. There are some writers who are bourg, some who are petit, some who are dirt poor hobbyists. You're basically saying, ALL writers are bourg because they at some point exploit the labor of someone? That's ridiculous. >>5755 >The fact that you think the issue with capitalists is one of scale is fucking laughable to your understanding of marxism No, u. Seriously. Do you seriously think that a person who sells hot dogs on street corners is petit too, just because he buys at a cheaper price and sells at a higher price? >>5756 >that one chick ok. opinion discarded. >>5757 Quote it in its entirety. >a wrong take which is being used to justify hate. And fuck off.
>>5754 Uber drivers also own their own MoP.
I bet this janny is a thot with an onlyfans based on how hard theyre defending the concept
>>5758 >You're basically saying, ALL writers are bourg because they at some point exploit the labor of someone? No you cretin read again, writers profit off of artificial scarcity imposed by intellectual property law which is incompatible with socialism. They would naturally be against socialism because they build wealth by a mechanism unique to the capitalist system. >No, u. Seriously. Do you seriously think that a person who sells hot dogs on street corners is petit too, just because he buys at a cheaper price and sells at a higher price? Did you know many hot dog vendors in nyc average over 100k a year in income? That the most expensive permit to sell hot dogs in central park costs nearly 300k a year and they still turn a profit? Yes they are bourgeoisie and like I said the fact that you think it is an issue of scale just speaks to your retardation. >that one chick >ok. opinion discarded. simp janny fuck you, submit your resignation
>>5762 Just googled it >) Last year’s occupant paid $415,000 a year for the Met stands plus at least $25,000 for supplies and labor, and didn’t go under—so we can assume he brought in significantly more than $440,000. Hot dog vendors are proles tho guys
>>5762 >which is incompatible with socialism. ought/is >They would naturally be against socialism because they build wealth by a mechanism unique to the capitalist system. speculation >Did you know many hot dog vendors in nyc average over 100k a year in income? >nyc hot dog vendors are comparable to all vendors around the world. therefore hot dog vendors are, and I quote >Yes they are bourgeoisie sighs. >fuck you, submit your resignation I resign arguing with you. >>5763 lmfao. you are a joke.
>>5764 >which is incompatible with socialism. >ought/is it is not ought it is strictly is >therefore hot dog vendors are, and I quote You're a fucking ultra liberal that would be okay with capitalism if we returned to pre-industrial guilds I mean after all a master craftsman only makes enough to live right? Surely they would never want build wealth. Surely a hot dog vendor who can invest hundreds of thousands of dollars for a vendor's permit and proceed to straight up build wealth in the M-C-M' cycle is a full blooded prole You're a fucking joke of a leftist you know that?
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>>5764 >lmfao. you are a joke. t. no argument(s)
>>5764 Let this sink in because it has really fucking thrown me for a loop You are defending copyright law You are defending intellectual property You are defending what amounts to ownership of private property for no good reason There is debate here, communism is communal ownership of property and this includes the domain of intellectual property You proceed to call it speculation or is/ought or whatever just because women good and you must uncritically support woman's copyright You can't even string an argument against it but just sit at your computer with a monkey brain bashing the keyboard and yet they gave you mod powers. What a fucking joke
>>5766 >this is incompatible with socialism <we live in capitalism >muh nyc hot dog vendors literally represent the average street vendor in the world *yawn* >>5769 >things ought to be like communism >if you state that people work using the current capitalist structure, that means you defend copyright law >>5768 Omg, you're right, I'm defending the 💰💰💰global hot dog bourgeoisie💰💰💰. I'm honestly out. I have better things to do. This ban has expired anyways.
>>5771 Nigger, if people directly benefit from the capitalist structure and would directly malefit from the implementation of socialism means they would generally as a group be against the proletariat. This isn't fucking controversial at all >if you state that people work using the current capitalist structure, that means you defend copyright law Onlyfans posters literally are not working, they are not laboring, they are benefiting from capitalist policies designed to defend capitalist interest because their entire grift is from being a capitalist with regards to selling access to pictures You dumb cunt haven't addressed this neither when I first posted it in /eceleb/ nor throughout this entire thread Learn to form a coherent thought dumbfuck
>>5771 btw I'm still not unbanned and you disallow actual marxist discussion from taking place about the class nature of sex workers/sexual workers You're a detriment to the site
>>5777 >>if you state that people work using the current capitalist structure, that means you defend copyright law Onlyfans posters literally are not working, they are not laboring, they are benefiting from capitalist policies designed to defend capitalist interest because their entire grift is from being a capitalist with regards to selling access to pictures This applies to absolutely anybody making something in a digital format you can replicate though. It applies to people making any kind of media, doing any kind of writing including scientific papers. The end result is digital content that is or could be behind a paywall they are now "capitalist" because they are selling a commodity. But that's not what makes someone a capitalist. Someone who sells something they made independently is more or less outside the class system, but in most cases e-thots and content creators in general go through some capitalist company as an intermediary - a hosting service typically. This service generally takes a cut of sales, which is rent or surplus extraction depending on how you want to look at it. But since it's the company that owns the infrastructure allowing distribution of the product, they are controlling the MoP (specifically distribution) which makes them a capitalist and the person selling the products a worker.
>>5754 >Take a hypothetical, Belle Delphine hires a professional photographer for $40 dollars or whatever, gets pictures taken of herself then proceeds to take these pictures and sell them online making let's say $4000. This is a textbook case of labor exploitation but suuuuuure onlyfans posters are 100% prole People don't pay for those photos because the photography is good. They pay for them because they're pictures of Belle Delphine. Yes, without the photographer she can't sell photos, but on the other hand without her as the model the photographer probably couldn't take photos of something that sell for anything like $4000. In this case you are describing something that requires multiple inputs of labor, just like a house involves labor of builders and painters and roofers. And while it may seem to you like posing is not real work, it requires you to stand for long periods making repetitive motions according to a desired result.
>>5783 >while it may seem to you like posing is not real work, it requires you to stand for long periods making repetitive motions according to a desired result. Know how I know you're a female?
Also are we not going to talk about how onlyfans ethots not only exploit capitalism to their advantage, but they often exploit pedophilic and dd/lg themes such as belle delphine dressing like a child and all her set looking like its in a childs room. Totes prole.
>>5790 Your absence is a blessing.
jannies are way too sensitive about trannies. and the e-thot simp is literally simping, pathetic beyond that the moderation here is honestly not that bad. they're even starting to ban the anti-China glowies, which has been a very pleasant surprise
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>>5771 >Omg, you're right, Hint- making snarky, passive aggressive comments doesn't make you right. pic related >I'm defending the 💰💰💰global hot dog bourgeoisie💰💰💰. That's not what was being stated by him, but ok, whatever helps you save face.
>>5784 I'm not female lol. But I'm guessing the only labor you've done was at a keyboard. Fun fact, the time a bodybuilder is most likely to be injured is while posing.
>>>/leftypol/728135 Soyjak was too much for this mod and he cracked at the seams
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>>5753 Imagine living in a world where human contact and concepts along the lines of love and affection are basically boiled down to a financial transaction and calling yourself a socialist
>>5753 JK Rowling was in fact a prole when she started writing Harry Potter. Right up until she started collecting royalties for the IP she was a prole, and when she sold the movie rights for a huge cut she transitioned from petty bourgeois to full blown bourgeois. Even still she is just barely a billionaire, along with Paul McCartney and a handful of other very successful proles-to-start-with. This kind of social mobility is possible but exceedingly rare. But JK Rowling is bourgeois because of her ability to leverage her labor into class mobility, not because of the nature of that labor. Most writers are proles.

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