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A rant about the moderation Sputnik##SgNipD 11/11/2019 (Mon) 16:42:42 No. 2657
I've already said this before on here but I may as well make a thread dedicated to it.

The mods on /leftypol/ are trash, extremely trash and I think the moderation team on this part of the site needs to be completely changed I know I'm probably pissing in the wind but in all honesty but one of the benefits and points to an imageboard is anonminity and the lack of a circlejerk, the mods don't respect either of these aspects and because of that this site has been seeing less and less users coming into this site the few users that do show up now are mostly redditors, remember that this place isn't Reddit nor is this the moderator's personal circlejerk and that was the main problem with the original /leftypol/ when it went to hell, not the fact that it was run by a tankie or something like that.

tl;dr the mods suck
>>2657
What exactly did we do to piss you off so bad? I believe in decorum but since certain members of staff are intent to drag everything into public, go ahead and say what you really mean. What did /leftypol/ vols do that offends you so much? Anchor your shitty no effort bait topic?
>>2658
Trying to control discussion is retarded that's why 8/pol/ and the rest of 8chan went to shit, it's why Reddit was shit it's not just about my thread and more about the way you guys handle threads in general and handle people who post here, it's not free flowing discussion which allows for better content creation, better banter and in general more fun.
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>>2659
What does that actually mean anon? Use your words, I can't respond to "the way you guys handle threads in general".

Like seriously, if you think this is tyrannical moderation, do you have any idea what it was like under OldBO even before he went insane? If they thought your thread was worthless for whatever reason they would just delete it, I'm at least sticking to anchoring the utter trash.
>>2657
personally, I have 2 problems with the moderation of /leftypol/

- banning Nazblols in the idpol containment thread.

- anchoring threads too liberally
some examples of this are: >>>/leftypol/116697 >>>/leftypol/121843 >>>/leftypol/119688 >>>/leftypol/120133 >>>/leftypol/121698
>>2657
>this place isn't Reddit nor is this the moderator's personal circlejerk and that was the main problem with the original /leftypol/ when it went to hell, not the fact that it was run by a tankie or something like that.
The tankie shit was always just the flavor of mod faggotry, but it did affect who got banned so it's not exactly irrelevant.

>>2660
Mods have deleted whole coversations in some threads. Not the threads themselves, but certain posts saying certain things, leaving up the other posts relating to the topic. That's how "controlling the conversation" works. You remove certain ideas from view so people can only pay attention to the approved ideas.
>>2662
>Banning Nazbols
Nazbols are only good if it's done ironically, otherwise it's just lampshaded fascism and we all know this, and don't pull the "it's just a different form of communism" card cause we all saw what happened to leftpol back on 8chan with all those nazbols. Holy shit that was a mess.
>>2665
What are you talking about, they were like a small minority that appeared for a few days in the first week of /leftypol/, afterwards it was just a gay witch-hunt for leftist nationalists
>>2666
he wrote /leftpol/ not /leftypol/. you're clueless.
/leftpol/ for much of its existence was 80-90% nazis larping as socialists. /leftypol/ not turning into that should really be the priority. Everything else is secondary.
>>2665
I just mean it for the idpol gulag. I'm fine with them getting banned If they show their reactionary tendencies outside of that dumpster fire.
>>2667
I meant to type leftpol dummy
>>2660
There it is, the spook of "oldBO" here to remind you that "yeah things suck but remember how much they SUCKED BACK THEN? wouldn't want that now would we?

You lot are a bunch of fucking imbeciles and are going to be the death of this site if you don't pull your heads out of your asses.
>>2669
So in your eyes /leftpol/ was totally fine?
>>2658
Also, You all just ignore everything being said to you and just keep chugging along like nothing is wrong. You totally ignore that users are pissed off about the current state of the site and just act like nothing needs to change.

It's fucking autism.
>>2662
banning nazbols period is a good thing and is set in the rules, there is no thread-exception to this
>>2671
Yeah for a week before it went to shit because of pressure from e-celebs and radlibs
>>2672
But what exactly is the problem? Can you try to explain it? Not the same guy btw, before you blow your lid again.
>>2674
yeah, nah, that wasn't the issue.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190804033907/https://8ch.net/leftpol/catalog.html
this is a capture of /leftpol/ on the second to last day of 8ch (bc on the 5th it was spammed to death lol) This is what lax moderation looks like.
>>2666
It was by far not a small minority, 90% of the time the front page of leftpol was "bye bye kikes" or "SJWs Are Literally Zionistas", my standard for measuring leftpol was seeing how far back the self-improvement thread got pushed back, and by the time 8chan got nuked it was on page 12 I think.
>>2670
OK, but how would YOU want it to be? A free for all with no oversight? You see individual posters only see the what's in their immediate thread or whatever, they don't gotta deal with the bombastic shit that's happening every second of every day. Poe's law is rule; you cannot physically tell if someone's being ironic, edging, lampshading, trying to hide fascist sympathies, or just straight up a fascist and nobody is doing anything. Sure we COULD give the benefit of the doubt and let them keep posting but what are the implications if it's not in good faith? We can't risk the site over someone's petty opinion, especially even if it's shit. You see there was a time when there was a hands off rule on that sort of stuff, but you had your fun time and proved you couldn't handle that responsibility. You can have that fun time back once you manage to convince every stormfag to stop raiding and lurking. And yes it is actually that much of a do-or-die scenario. Example: About 8 months ago back on 8chan for about a week straight a gore poster spammed the board, was banned about 350 times but kept using proxies, his posts started in support of a known TERF poster who kept on going on about Nazbol shit and bashing trannies faces in with baseball bats and had the writing skill of a 3 yo. Fast forward 3 months, said TERF fag turns out to be a "closet" fascist, admits he was the gore poster all along, and posts a bunch of SS imagery and said "bye bye leftytroon". What's important about that story? The fact that he was in full sight all along but in good faith he wasn't banned despite the obvious fascist sympathies. That's why edging is so bannable, cause chances fucking are if you show fascist sympathies, guess what, you're a fascist. As for idpol stuff, almost everyone calls the opinion they don't agree with idpol around here and is practically a useless term in moderation, we're much more concerned with stopping Monarchists, Ancaps, Nazis, Nazbols than we are radlibs cause it's a priority thing, radlibs and such don't raid or plan on going undercover, they're pretty easy to spot and dealt with with a single response. Don't like them? Just ignore them. See a nazi? Report them. That's how it works.
>>2674
Ya and that had its own containment thread.
>>2675
>leftpol
>"Atheism is bad" thread
I swear Neo-Paganism is the religious version of NazBol.
>>2675
>>2676


People just want like three boards, lmao. WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT?? I shouldn't have to fucking rationalize what should already be obvious.

Furthermore, the mod sticky is fucking CANCER
>>2677
like, whatever, make the boards.
>>2677
What 3 boards then? Could you please say a bit more than "somming bad plz stop bad"?
>>2677
Also if we made a board for every single sectarian thought or special snowflake opinion you'd basically just be making subreddits :^)
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>>2681(me)
<IDPOL CONTAINMENT BOARD
THE ABSOLUTE STATE
>>2676
>>2676
But the niggas that are gonna raid are gonna raid anyway as well as ban-evade, your justification story is meaningless, this place is leftist, run by them and owned by them, by taking a more hands on approach especially on an anonymous imageboard where everything is at least in theory supposed to be decided by the posters on this site not retards like yourself high on your own fumes pretending to be some last line of defence between this site and le evil fascist ANCAP terf maymays, if you want to take the role of guiding discussion on your end instead of just letting the posters at this site decide then argue then what's the point of this place being on an imageboard and that's why you're called a janitor you're supposed to clean up the spam and function in the background
>>2684
But the internet is srs business right Mr liberal moderation man ?
>>2684
So since you can't some up with ANY specific examples, you're basically full of shit?
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>>2686
specific examples of what; the raids ? there were plenty of those from /pol/ on /leftypol/ during the days of the retard and his merry men, these were times when moderation was much more active, if people have proxies and you ban them they're probably just going to use another one, banning people who subscribe to anything you deem ""reactionary"" is not gonna protect you or the board from that because people with proxies that raid korean cavedrawing social networks probably have extras, what you do is unnecessary and kill banter.

tl;dr you're a stupid nigger and you should consider going back to reddit
When the mods quietly delete posts to steer the conversation like some glow in the darks is especially cringe.
Like you don’t think we remember what was just posted. You don’t think people don’t notice responses to deleted posts?
FUCK NIGGERS
I HATE NIGGERS

NIGGERCOCKEIDBFISNDNF
>>2666
Have you considered that you're a huge faggot who deserves to be banned and should go kill yourself tho?
>>2684
>>2687
>banning raiders is pointless because they'll just use proxies
That is some seriously flawed logic and utterly retarded, it's obvious you don't know a single thing about what you're talking about.
>>2688
Check the logs those posts weren't deleted by the mods, they were deleted by the users who posted them, my guess is double post or typos or something.
>>2687
so your solution to attacks is to lay down and rot?
rules state reactionaries gotta know their place
it has always been this way
if we went by your ill logic, /leftypol/ wouldn't have been created in the first place
we could've just stayed on /pol/
oh wait, that's not how it works
you're wrong and retarded
>>2693
/leftypol/ was created when people fled 8pol because 8pol banned leftists and ""degeneracy""
>>2691
not saying that banning raiders is pointless i'm just saying that people with a reactionary thought or view doesn't always equal a raider and shouldn't be banned on sight and that you can't really do anything to prevent them, they'll just happen and you'll have to ban them when the time comes, try reading more than the first sentence of my post you absolute redditor
>>2690
have you considered going back to reddit and dying horribly in a fire ?
>>2695
>don't ban reactionaries
ah yes I forgot reactionaries are famous for being reasonable fellows who can be debated and reasoned with on diverging opinions.
>>2695
>>2696
>redditor
>go back to reddit
<everyone I don't like is reddit
Just stop please.
>>2695
>>2666
I'd just like to point out how you saw nothing wrong with /leftpol/ and the NazBols running wild there and are trying to say that we should let more reactionaries in or at least tolerate them. Just a little bit fitting and/or prophetic.
>>2698
I've stated before I'm against the circlejerk anon.
>>2697
You can still focus on the dying horribly in a fire part, I believe in you !
>>2699
>I'm against the circlejerk
Not even what I was talking about, I was talking about the part about how you were completely oblivious to how fucking infested with literal fascists leftpol was while advocating for letting in said fascist cause "if you kill the fascists they win", it's fucking ironic is what it is. Also is the fact that you're complaining about circlejerks while namefagging and circlejerking about mod tyranny.
>You can still focus on the dying horribly in a fire part
Not even the same person, fyi not everone is reddit and the same person.
Not the same person
LIBERALS ARE REACTIONARIES
Everyone who writes things like left-ish/liberal-ish is a radlib. They always cry crodocodile tears about muh pol takover even though in the west since ww2 this happened to practically no socialist org while almost all of them were infiltrated and taken over by liberals. They are the far bigger threat.
>>2701
Liberals are much more subtle and wlling to superficially blend in, the rule of "cloaking" should be used on them primarily but it's a rule that lets the vol do whatever he wants and many are self-described as liberal-aligned.
>stop banning fashies
>also ban those libs
cool story, /pol/
>>2702
and yet you manage to screech "radlib" at anyone who isn't a retarded larper like you and stands out for you as an obvious disturbance, how curious
>>2702
Ok liberal
>>2703
i like the idea
>>2657
it's awful, half the bolivian thread is a single fake bolivian polyp shitposting and ppl answering his shitty takes. When people start sectarian infighting out of the blue with no added value they just leave it until the thread is good for garbage.
When someone start being an obvious bad faith actor spouting propaganda, just fucking ban him ffs.
>>2670
for me its simple, moderation was straight better under old bo, who had no qualm about banning low effort sectarianism, redlibs & pseudo anarchists spouting propaganda. All our mod team seem to hate his guts. I find the moderation lackluster. Is there any link you guys think ?
>>2684
>>2684
>that are gonna raid are gonna raid anyway as well as ban-evade
what the fuck am I reading. "Don't ban ppl they ban evade"
>this place is leftist, run by them and owned by them
I have doubts, and I don't quite agree with many leftists branches
>not retards like yourself high on your own fumes pretending to be some last line of defence between this site and le evil fascist ANCAP terf maymays
wtf. He expose a clear example of a problem with too light moderation and all you can do is sperg out insults
>>2699
ok, are all our mods so shit ?
>>2719
people look back on old-BO being bad simply because he did the whole banning of pro-imperialist posts, shitposts and implemented the word-filter and character count but the mods here only take away the fact that the BO is bad because he was a tankie or some shit not because of the fact that he tried to kill banter and shitposting on an imageboard
>>2720
i'm not saying don't ban people because they ban evade i'm saying to not ban any shitpost or whatever the mods deem crypto-whatever because they could be deep-cover raiders
>I'm not saying don't ban people
>I'm saying to not ban any shitpost
That's clearly not what you said and nobody even mentioned banning shitposts nor is there any evidence that people being banned were "just shitposting" also you advocating for not banning cryptos, again, need I remind you of your ignorance of how shit leftpol became because cryptos took over? MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE AS BLIND AS A BAT YOU IGIT
>>2724
calm your autism and most of you guys can't tell the difference between cryptos and shitposting
>>2725
>I was only pretending to be retarded
>>2728
where did i say i was pretending ?
there's reactionaries and /pol/acks getting bans
for one week
i don't remember it being this short under old BO, especially for those guys when they were "derailing" or "low effort spamming"
and the evasion ban just reinstating the original length of a week
what's up with that?
>>2730
Most of those guys don't even use the same IP, they will just switch, so giving them a 5 year ban just potentially fucks with other people who happen to get on the same ip. If the person actually sits there for 1 week and comes back and tries to make better posts, that's fine IMO.
>>>/leftypol/126760
THE TRANNY MOD IS MAD
Point and laugh at it!
>The mods on /trannypol/ are trash
Based
>one of the benefits and points to an imageboard is anonminity and the lack of a circlejerk, the mods don't respect either of these aspects and because of that this site has been seeing less and less users coming into this site the few users that do show up now are mostly redditors
Absolutely and utterly based.
All the posters on trannypol are morons that migrated from r/Cumtown and r/ChapoTrannyHouse after they got quarentined, reason why the podcasts are brought up so frecuently on the board.
>>2733
Redditors must be shot
>>2733
Maybe you should try not to sperg about trannies in outside the idpol containment thread? You do know that a bannable offense to derail thread with idpol, right? There's 4chan /pol/ for that, you know?
Haven't you got anything better to do with your time though? Have you tried to read some books and make good posts for example instead of sperging about trannies?
>>2733
oh no, the oppression you suffer
you poor victim, you're really cool
please tell me more
>>2735
>some retard keeps spamming ""trans rights"" meme on /ig/
>people tell the retard to fuck off
>immediately get deleted and banned

okay, nigger.
>>2737
nobody but you is talking about /ig/, retard
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>>2738
the post that the other guy was referring to was in /ig/ retard
>>2735
>sperg
>sperging
You are asking for it at this point, aren't you?
Why do you hate me so much you fucking troon, who hurt you?
No wonder both the mikuposter and satan kun despise you.
>>2753
>troon

Fuck off back to Kiwifarms, you're the one who doesn't belong
>>2754
>troon is seething
Go commit 41%
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>>2754
>muh kiwifarms boogeymen

gay
>>2754
Troon is from Something Awful, not Kiwifarms
>>2758
Same difference
>>2760
Ok boomer
>>2740
It's horrible
>janitors
>deleting my effortposts as 'idpol' and banning me for trying to improve the quality of their shitty board
Name a more iconic duo.
>>2835
Who the fuck talked directly about incels pask you disgusting furry?
>eugenics is not considered idpol, but antieugenics is.
Really makes you think.
Seems like you already have your dialectical sintesis out of your thesis and antithesis
>>2836
I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and the post you linked is not mine.
But I am glad my name still strikes fear into your heart.
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So do you cuck fear us and why? Remember we are everywhere u are nowhere and slowing drowning in your own fecal matter
>>2840
You're on the wrong board dumbass, go to /leftypol/
Can you please ban tranny poster in the Gender cyclical. He has been spamming the board with the same five studies that he thinks support transgender sterilization. Several of these studies have already been addressed (most of them were of populations of 70 or less people) but he persists and he has been told that he is spamming and that it's against the rules and that if he wants to reference the studies again to simply link back to an early post or only quote the relevant study. Instead he posts all 5, clearly trying to push away posts that rebut him further up the thread where they are less likely to be seen. >>187456 >>187680 >>189096 >>189110 >>189118 >>189798 Oh and here he has straight out said he doesn't care that he is breaking the rules on /leftypol/. >>189798 >The only reason why this hasn’t turned into a mess is because so far trans anon is the only one breaking the rules. >again I don't care about the rules He's been doing this for over a week and mods haven't banned him.
>>3867 >>3869 >He has been spamming the board This is only in one thread and I don't think this is spam.
>>>/leftypol/190799 Why was this user banned? Is it because he triggered the mods? >>3870 Posting the same post over and over again is not spamming?
>>3870 Posting the same content endlessly is spam.
>>3871 Shitposting is bannable
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>>3874 So spamming like mad is fine, but a little bit of humour is bannable? Riiiiiiight.
>>3874 >Shitposting is bannable Back to Reddit.
>>3871 >Posting the same post over and over again is not spamming? It's not the same post, that wall of text is basically the same as placing a link to a previous post. Is it annoying? yes. Is it spam? probably not.
>>3877 It was the same post.
>>3878 No, it's not these post >>3869 all include the same wall of text. But they also include different elements.
>>3879 >Adding a bit of window dressing to a spam post makes it not spam My spam filters say no.
>>3880 can you define spam
>>3881 A set of highly repetitive messages sharing a common theme.
>>3879 >all include the same wall of text. Then it's spam. If you want to use a wall of text again then he should just use a post link. It's been obvious that there a clique of radlib mods that hate the gender/incel cyclical and are letting the tranny anon break the rules in a passive aggressive form or retribution on discussion that they don't like.
>>3877 >It's not the same post, It is the same exact wall of text. Nesting in other responses doesn't make it not spam. Also when he posts that wall of text none of it directly applies to the post he's responding to. This is just /pol/ tier Black Crime stats brigading.
>>3881 >can you define spam When you post the same set of messages to respond to mostly non-related posts. Putting it in the middle of novel posts doesn't make it now spam. If you wanna see what spamming leads to head on over to 4chan's /pol/ where every thread is "DA JOOZ" and "Even though they are only 15% of the population...". People want a discussion, it's interesting to see other people's point of view. You're not changing anyone's mind on a Mongolian Finger Puppet Enthusiast Board.
>>3885 *Putting it in the middle of novel posts doesn't make it not spam.
>>3875 It's not humour, you're just being a dumb asshole and spreading alt right memes
>>3885 >You're not changing anyone's mind on a Mongolian Finger Puppet Enthusiast Board. Also I object to the idea that we shouldn't attempt to actually prove any points on here, if someone posts a reliable metanalysis of scientific studies, you should be able to explain why that's wrong if you're actually right. If you're just going to deny actual evidence and argue what feels right you may as well just be a climate change denier.
>>3888 >if someone posts a reliable metanalysis of scientific studies, Meta analysis aren't scientific and aren't reliable. Something that's been explained to you over and over again. Meta science is feel>reals and is being used to push what ever social agenda is en vogue.
A tranny mod perma-banned me for posting idpol... in the fucking idpol thread.
reddit is a bigger threat to this site than /pol/ change my mind
>>3889 How is a consensus of peer reviewed studies not reliable?
>>3903 It’s not a consensus, especially with softer psychological studies.
Can we get a mod to ban this user for threatening to dox anons. >>>/leftypol/210852
>>3899 you clearly don't have one to begin with
>>3963 t. reddit
mods have a faster ban reflex against comrades than reactionaries, literally got banned for "unspoilered porn" because I misclicked the spoiler button, all while the incels managed to stick around for 3 months before anything was done. I fucking hate the moderation, if it weren't for the comrades I swear there would be no reason to come here.
>>3973 t. /pol/

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