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Bring back the idpol thread Comrade 01/22/2020 (Wed) 16:09:59 No. 3985
I want to bitch about trans idpol and every time a make a thread about it it gets deleted. Has Trans idpol become accepted here? I want normie liberals to leave. As for the incelposting problem that the other idpol general had. Maybe the mods and jannies should just take a more active approach to moderating the thread and ban anyone who goes off on a ridiculous tangent and starts spamming the thread.
>>3985 Bunkerchan is a white supremacist board now. Poor white people, men and anti-trans facists don't want to have conversations where they might possibly be wrong or excluded so they've basically launched anti-POC, women and trans pogrom by banning idpol. This is not a leftist board, its a strasserite imageboard.
Muh idpol: 1d
>>4262 >>4255 >Bunkerchan is both owned a controlled by liberals and nazis Which is it? You can't have both. This is why idpol is cancer.
It basically goes like this: When we ban reactionaries for being cancerous faggots they cry MUH IDPOL,MOD TEAM, LE LIBERAL MODS And when we ban Liberals for being cancerous morons they do the exact same thing but inversely. Neither one of the two parties are smart enough to understand the greater picture here. They are more so just very myopic.
>>4264 Yes it can you dumb ass, Nazis are just an extreme flavor of liberal.
>>4265 >Look, honestly, I am completely neutral here. Never mind the fact that give the most egregious idpol spouters a light twenty-four slap on the wrist and ignore them espousing liberal talking points while other members of the mod group aggressively purge anyone who dares contradict the idpols. Yes, clearly no-one has noticed the greater picture. No partisan moderation here.
>>4265 being against idpol isn't being "reactionary. Being against the trans takeover of leftist movements isn't being transphobic.
>>4268 > Being against the trans takeover of leftist movements isn't being transphobic. Twitter isn't real life wtf are you about? how did the Corbyn or sanders movement get taken over by trans people? How is any of the latin American socialist movement taken over by trans people?
>>3985 >>3989 based >>4003 >>4007 faggots >>4032 >he deserves sex slaves and demands socialism with patriarchal characteristics kek b.b.based? but only ironically. Patriarchal ok but no no on the slave stuff.Not cool bruh >>4156 Your analysis is rational and balanced but your expectations are not. Feminism (women working for porkie instead of investing her efforts in a family) has been a disaster for all concerned. Furthermore differences between the genders based on millions of years of evolution (the base) will not be overcome by an artificially grafted on neolib feminist superstructure. A benign type of patriarchy is the only logical and realistic solution. No society anywhere has ever functioned with one in some shape or another. >inb4 incel I do alright >>4207 based
>>4250 Burgers have some kneejerk reactions to ideas outside their 60s boomer bubble >>4253 citation needed 40% suicide though - unlike Jeffrey Epstein >>4254 Muh cuba >>4262 what a blistering faggot >>4266 moronic
>No society anywhere has ever functioned without* one (a patriarchy) in some shape or another.
>>4271 Nigga, have you been living in a spiderhole? The UK Labour party is throughly riddled with troonism. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/16/labour-candidates-called-on-to-justify-transphobia-claims
>>4273 >No society has ever functioned without one https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t_l9D7tEixc There is this
>>3985 why is idpol even banned in the first place?
>>4281 If the idol thread comes back for a prolonged period you'll see exactly why comrade
>>4282 but their banned,cant you tell me?are they annoying?why do people respond to them then?
>>4283 I don't mind it so much but it tends to end up touching third rails that makes some people bleed out their eyes simply from having seen how identity politics can combine One that broke a few people last time was cross pollination between incel and radfem ideology Nazbol is also largely banned from here just like my little pony is banned from everywhere on 4chan except /mlp/ even though the Nazbol deep fried meme aesthetic started here
>>4283 Basically idol shit and Nazbol shit is /leftypol/'s my little pony
>>4284 >just like my little pony is banned from everywhere on 4chan the fuck?why?
>>4286 It was all over the place until it got contained in /mlp/ Like constant nonstop cutesy wootsy ponies every damn post on every fucking board Nazbol and idpol get like that on /leftypol/ if it's allowed and at points it was so overwhelming some people still get very very upset if they see any I don't personally, but I now hate cute pictures of ponies even though rationally I can acknowledge that the show was pretty good for a kids car too
>>4287 *cartoon I guess you could say idpol now triggers a lot of anons whose homeboard is /leftypol/
>>4274 lmao you ask for a citation and the use the le 40% study wrong >muh cuba literally not an argument fag
>>4278 litterally only 5 people lmao rIdDlEd WiTh TrOoNiSm
>>4290 t. troon
>>4290 dilate.
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One of my main issues with transphobia in leftist communities is that so many communists, socialists, and anarchists are part of the LGBT community, and excluding them would be shooting yourself in the foot. The smart ones are working towards the same goal of fucking porkie, just like us. I also think it is immoral to dehumanize people like that, especially if they are struggling with self-identification issues. Yes, they can be annoying, but everyone on the internet is. BUT, that is beyond the point. Regarding feminism, women's liberation is and has been a core tenant of socialist and communist thought. Kropotkin wrote about women's emancipation, and Lenin advocated for women to participate in politics. Ocalan is a very important figure in contemporary leftist politics, and he has wrote a great deal about liberating women from the patriarchy (look up Jineology, if you're inclined). Just my two cents.
>>4293 >so many communists, socialists, and anarchists are part of the LGBT community yea, it's not like they're all petit bourg, have you ever met working class people? >excluding them would be shooting yourself in the foot lol
>>4294 blindly excluding leftists because they belong to groups that confuse you or make you uncomfortable seems pretty idpol to me
>>4295 If you want to adopt idealism to the point of psychosis by proclaiming "a laydee is anyone who feelz they iz a laydee" and insisting all who dissent are "transphobes" as >>4293 does, then a materialist ideology like that of the left is actively harming itself by including such saboteurs.
>>4293 >Regarding feminism, women's liberation is and has been a core tenant of socialist and communist thought. No it hasn't. Those theorists argued that women should take part to emancipate themselves, but feminism has historically been a liberal movement associated with the bourgeois and petit-bourgeois.
>>4298 Kropotkin had a whole chapter in the conquest of Bread about how in an anarcho-communist society women needed to be freed from excessive domestic duties, which he repeated referred to as slavery
>>4297 We shouldn't give a fuck if someone wants to wear dresses or makeup if they are a valuable member/ally of a leftist society. >materialist ideology not following. How is acceptance of trans left wingers materialist?
>>4299 >anarcho communist Opinion disregarded also freeing people from social roles is a leftist concept in general. Focusing on the woman aspect of this principle is idpol.
>>4301 >Focusing on the woman aspect of this principle is idpol. that's fifty per cent of the population
>>4302 and its still idpol
>>4300 >We shouldn't give a fuck if someone wants to wear dresses or makeup Yes, which is why the troons who screech endlessly about such things and how it "makes me a laydee" should be removed. >How is acceptance of trans left wingers materialist? Here we see the radlib revealing itself.
>>4304 >troons Here we see the polfag revealing itself.
>>4304 >attempt to engage in respectful discourse >get called a radlib I don't know what I expected on /gulag/ to be honest. Forget the res of this.
>>4305 troon is barely used on /pol/ I see it a lot on radfem forums though
>>4307 I used the term specifically because it annoys the people it describes. Just witness the way that >>4305 has started to whine about terminology. >>4306 Have you fuck attempted to engage in "respectful discourse". """Acceptance""" is conflated with uncritical acceptance of troon bullshit.
>>4308 Should the left not accept any trans people?
>>4309 Are all trans people psychotics?
>>4310 I don't think so.
>>4309 Trans people are allowed as long as they dont bitch about their personal issues (i.e. a guy misgendered me today!!!!!!!!!!!) and focus entirely on class.
>>4311 What do you think falls outside the boundaries of psychosis?
>>4308 > I used the term specifically because it annoys the people it describes. < I annoy struggling minorities on purpose < they reply negatively < SEE, THESE PEOPLE ARE PSYCHOTIC and that's why I support trans and non-binary and whatever minority: fuck the bullies, they are infinitely worse than a bunch of attention-seeking queers on Twitter
>>4310 No gender confirmation surgery is required to avoid castration long term and not all do so and even then escaping castration is not guaranteed
>>5034 What do you do when the attention-seeking queers are the bullies especially of women
>>5036 insignificant minority, stop reading Twitter or whatever TERF shit you are into also FtMs exist
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>argument from insignificant minority yeah that line of argument is going to backfire
>>4310 wait, the left doesn't accept psychotics now?

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