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Bunkerchan is falling dowm Space_##m0Wyzz 07/05/2016 (Tue) 21:27:50 No. 436 [Reply] [Last]
falling down, falling down, bunkerchan is falling down, my fair lady.

BUNKERCHAN TECHNICAL META THREAD

Current problems
1) Deep_comrade Brought something up with the CSS
2)SSL has expired Hoxha, jny needs to update it.

STATUS OF OVERLYNX
http://spacechan.xyz/overlynx/res/1.html#q6

Please add more to the thread.
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>>685
Come on, a
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certbot certonly -w /var/www/servers/bunkerchan.xyz -d bunkerchan.xyz
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isn't that hard
>>687
Piss off!
>>686
Certs been renewed!
>>436 >checks date how is this post 4 years old? i was 14 when this got posted for the first time and it is still here?
>>5010 It's the meta board, what do you expect? I deleted all the old shitposts so there would be more space in the catalog too. So old threads like this will stick around a while.

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bear's solution to serve space bear 03/30/2020 (Mon) 02:54:57 No. 4519 [Reply] [Last]
Bunkerchan was down for a while on 3/29/20, and while it was down, I was talking to a fellow fa/GET/ on how to fix the situation. I came up with this solution. Much like Margret Thatcher, we're going to need to do some austerity. Move any threads like people like, but are kinda slow burner (EX: /dprk/ , /prc/) and put them into a less active board, /ref/ being a perfect example, so that they don't die as easily. Then cut leftypol's page count by half to have more space in the servers. While you're at it, also move all country specific thread to /ref/ as it seems more appropriate the it would be there, as /ref/ is kinda like Bunkerchan's /int/ anyway **and would boost activity in that board, which may lead to more activity, see this thread >>321740** This is what i believe y'all should consider for this to not happen again, cause I don't want to see anything about topology anymore
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>>4552 BEARS OF THE WORLD UNITE
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Why was Bunkerchan down this time?
>>4741 502 Error. Basically, bunkerchan fucked up talking to cloud-flair.
>>4554 Based and Honey-pilled, comrade bear-kun
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I gotta question. Has there been any talk among to staff or Space to get more servers. I remember during the riots when Bunker went down, Space was talking about getting another server on CyTube I believe

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Comrade 03/21/2020 (Sat) 13:57:14 No. 4406 [Reply] [Last]
someone just posted child porn, someone should be locked up, mods do something
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>>4407 Sadly it is posted via TOR so we cant do much.
>>4408 okay understandable
YO IT'S BACK UP I HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I ONLY HEARD ABOUT IT BUT NOW I SAW THE THUMBNAIL BAN THESE PEDOSHITS Is there a option to disable overboard thumbnails. I don't want this to happen again.
Hi, sorry I am unknowledgable with this stuff, but I wanna help. Do you guys have an image filter? Are you reporting to authorities anyways just to cover leftypols ass/on the off chance he fucked up and leaked his ip or something?
>>4989 bump his request would also like to know if you are reporting to the authorities

Comrade 03/31/2020 (Tue) 15:16:00 No. 4546 [Reply] [Last]
What's your excuse for not using the best theme in the game?
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>>4626 ITT: Seething windows tards.
>>4626 this, but unironically. you know journalists in countries with repressive laws use TAILS pendrives all the time for this exact reason right?
>>4628 Nah bro just trust windows. They got it all under control. :^)
Cuz it's a fucking eyesore. Fuck Colgate, fuck Yotsuba, fuck default, Dark is where it's at.
>>4984 how can one man be so based?

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WTF IS THIS SHIT?? Comrade 06/09/2020 (Tue) 22:32:59 No. 4972 [Reply] [Last]
Pic related. What in the absolute hell jannies? I've never once posted anything remotely nazi-like, and I've been consistently reporting all the /pol/tards and twitter nazis who come and derail threads. Can you explain to me why the hell you think I'm an "insane twitter nazi?"
>>4972 Do you use a VPN or Tor then there's your answer. If not that's weird.
>>4974 I use Tor.
>>4975 Well there you go.
>>4976 So was it for suspected ban evasion, or are Tor users banned on sight or something? Cuz I've been posting using Tor for months now.
>>4977 The tor node you're using was previously used by a user who got banned.

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Comrade 06/05/2020 (Fri) 01:04:36 No. 4927 [Reply] [Last]
I request the enactment of Red Terror in the /bürgerkrieg/ thread. It's not so much the raiders themselves who are ruining it but the horde of drooling idiots who think that replying with "I'm not being baited because I know it's bait" makes them the love buttbaby of Marx and Bakunin. Lord knows I don't mind silly shitposting as long as it's funny, but what's going in that thread is not it. Please at least probate everyone who replies to the bait posts.
I have to thank you, the thread improved massively. But 5 hours later, one of the trolls returned and all the cucks are taking the bait. Oh well. There's at least one troll who I'm fairly sure is a chatbot, he replies almost exclusively with janky greentext contrarianism. Does the board have some way to botcheck?
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Are all the mods asleep? If it's an issue of time zones, make me a mod, assuming my post history is not too autistic. We need to crackdown hard for now on obvious bait, until these trolls leave.
I'm fairly sure there has been a chatbot shitting a few theads up for a while now with the cheapest contrarianism ever. Nothing but one-liners with keywords plus a variation on "no u". When the conversation swerved rather suddenly about drugs, I think it became a bit more obvious. Are these posts by the same person? >>/leftypol/593444 >>/leftypol/593428 >>/leftypol/593386 >>/leftypol/593363

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Comrade 05/31/2020 (Sun) 20:43:16 No. 4890 [Reply] [Last]
Why was my post deleted? I fly a nazi flag, I'm open about what I am, and you delete my post? I know the rules, and I didn't break a single one. I was here 6 months ago, and I while I may have been banned, my posts weren't deleted. I was able to appeal and get unbanned because mods seem to play fast and loose with the rules, but this is a whole new fucked up direction you're going in. Why are mods suddenly allowed to delete posts? WTF happened to this place? My post: https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/541168.html#q554609 How was this breaking any rules? I want it restored and to continue my openly Nazi good faith discussion in a highly relevant crisis.
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>>4896 >maybe if you didn't derail a thread Bullshit. I replied to people. Why weren't the people I replied to punished for this so-called derailment when I was dicussing their post which they were discussing? They said antifa had no leadership or hierarchy, and posted that they were wrong and explained why. It was a riot thread, about riots, about various groups in the riots. It was a completely different take which included information regarding nationalist sentiment and refusal to engage in the riots for the first time. It was completely on topic and better than 60% of the posts which were just shitposts. My messages were deleted because I am a Nazi. You can't even admit you, you coward. Explain how I derailed? I was banned for 'evasion' even though I wasn't evading. Can you explain that shit? I read other complaints on /gulag/ from communists who have the same complaint. They too were banned for evading even though they never evaded. Your system is bullshit and it is fucked. You know it is. >>4897 >implying you weren't banned from reddit under the justification that you were a 'class reductionist' Don't lie to me. I've engaged with leftypol for years. I know the shit you get for being anti-idpol. I read and engaged in the threads of marxists who were on reddit and complained about being banned for class reductionists. Shit, that's why they made separate reddits which were more ironic. I'm not at all surprised the numbers of nazbols have arisen due to these bans and the demoralisation that comes with separation from a collective they had bonded with. We're social creatures, and we get tribal. Politics is surprisingly fickle amongst most people, especially in radical circles. >>4898 >It's a fucking image board my dude, not an actual political entity. Quit chimping out. If you can't enforce your worldview on a forum on a micro scale, how the fuck cooed you possibly enforce it on a macro scale. Factions of yours want an equal society of stateless democracy. You have a forum with unnaccountable mods banning not only a Nazi like myself for NO REASON AT ALL, but I have read threads where other communists get banned for being part of a faction some mod has a personal opposition to.

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>>4895 >>4899 Mods rarely check this place. t. mod >I have read threads where other communists get banned for being part of a faction some mod has a personal opposition to. such as? sounds bullshit. nazbol or other simarly less bootlicking than fascism but still reactionary ideologies don't really count. As for your posts, we're getting bombarded by nazi retards even more now than ever. A lot of them in bad faith. If you posted something reactionary without the nazi flag, maybe I deleted it by IP. And also, if you weren't banned, stop crying, the thread is moving so fast it cycles every couple of hours.
>>4899 > Don't bullshit me and tell me this place has the same users it had 6 months ago. > Heavy handed tight grip moderation always kills image boards and forums, even a Marxist one like yours. >We're here to engage and bantz, not circlejerk. This is in a sense a leftist safe space. All other online community is infested with liberal idpol. We keep it this way by being protective of the community and allowing discussion, you should know this. BTW, your bullshit about this site being slower than 6 months ago is unadulterated pure bullshit. We've never EVER had this much traffic on bunkerchan. fwiw, I spoke with the other mods about your situation. your post is long gone btw. the thread cycles insanely fast.
>>4899 Bro you were acting like a faggot because no one wanted to stomp your dick. You deserved it entirely
Just wanted to add, you forgot your place OP, this is a communist board, as a neonazi, you are here by our discretion. You should probably kill yourself, offline, if you can't help but use fash virtue signaling in a thread complaining about your ban.

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Mods stop it. Concerned effort poster 05/09/2020 (Sat) 13:44:01 No. 4809 [Reply] [Last]
The mods should only delete what breaks the rules. Stop deleting larouce. Stop giving bans to anyone whos ideology you personally don't like. The left is a big place with a lot of history it can't all be eurocoms and vulgar MLism.
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>>4809 I posted this in the /leftypol/ moderator thread but I had a feeling someone might be mentioning it in /gulag/ too so I came over here. I just wanted to give an example of how many random idpol, troll, Sakai and anti-Sakai threads we have up at any given time. I think one thread for this topic would be fine, but this is a lot of bullshit to be dealing with.
More focus on moderating the threads and less on people's takes on shit would be better. Lots of low effort threads tend to be made, it kills too much of the other stuff.
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SUGGEST MAYBE THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN BOUGHT OFF BY THE TRANSNATIONAL BIG CAPITAL, THAT'S CONSPIRATARD DERAILING!!!1

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The nature of money, capital, and capitalism Comrade 05/15/2020 (Fri) 18:43:02 No. 4834 [Reply] [Last]
<The following is a continuing discussion between a leftcom and a nazbol that began in the moderation thread on /leftypol/. Outside contributions/shit-flinging are welcome. <Quoth the nazbol: >In regard to the question of how a state pays for things That wasnt the question. What is money? What is legal tender?How does/dit it come into being and what makes it accepted? >Taxes have to come first Chicken and egg >So post-structuralist No. Perhaps this is a semantic problem.By capital,in this context,I'm specifically referring to the form of capital known as currency,hard currency,money and legal tender. >a notion bostered by the functioning of the U.S. dollar as the global reserve currency Indeed and this is enabled by OIL payments only being accepted in US dollars backed up by the might of the US military. However the function can still operate independently of those considerations within the context of an independent sovereign nation state with it's own currency. >That describes the present economic reality pretty damn well That IS the current reality. But it is a reality created and maintained by arbitrary state fiat.It is not some eternal law or necessary requirement for an economy.Ultimately it is a construct of vested interests in the form of powerful private banking concerns who have been monopolising this system from circa 1750 >The key to understanding why it matters so little Quite the contrary.It is of supreme importance. >It's still labor, even if it is labor of a different kind. Ultimately I agree - but surplus value is being sucked away by financial concerns - not by the functioning of private business/corps/retailers etc in the real economy (as marxists maintain) but by the financial oligarchs who create,maintain,monopolise and dominate the creation and distribution of the monetary system/currency. >The hell it does. The amount of blatant ignorance about money/currency among economists etc is breathtaking - it's probably by design.Both austrians and marxists are still bleating on about bartering chickens to explain the evolution of currency.

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>>4858 Part Jesus, look at all the words >Eternal growth is only demanded by the current govt+corp+finance complex. When capital does not grow capital does not exist. That is what happens when a depression occurs. There ceases to be a sufficient expectation of a return on investments, so investors stop investing. Investment resumes in increments as the weaker porkies get culled. Then the cycle begins again. A stoppage of growth is just a depression. >Why insist on reifying the current mode as some holy eternal law.It isnt. Things have properties. Growth is a definitive property of capital. M becomes M'. Third-positionists want to have social production without capital, but the engine that moves social production is capital. That does not have to be the case, but when capital is removed from the formula something has to takes its place. Investors do not invest without expectation of a return. What makes investors invest if doing so does not benefit them? My solution: have no investors at all and produce for use. >Their analysis is sound and sometimes accurate - but their models still assume gold backed ie limited currency What have they gotten right? I cannot help remembering Greenspan being completely befuddled when the bubbles burst. >Soviet's best mathematicians couldnt figure it out. Where does this myth come from? Kantrovich did it in 1939. >Give me a synopsis of cockshot. Cockshott cited Kantrovich's arithmetical method based on production outputs and combined it with Dantzig's simplex method to scale it up infinitely. It is all based upon the point that money is not the only scaling objective function out there. I will include the pamphlet in case you are interested. I am not an advocate of central planning, being a leftcom, but Cockshott makes a convincing case for its plausability. >Give my regards to the lady of the manor squire. I'm hitting the sack.Drunk as a lord. Til the morrow May your headache be light and your bedroom dark. >Appreciate the chance for sincere debate like civilised grown ups. It is both pleasant and unusual to talk with someone here about economics and not have it turn into a memefest two posts in. God, the MLs can cite Lenin back and forth, but once the subject turns to the M-C-M' cycle in Capital and its relation to the state it's all "anarkiddy" and "imperialist."
>>4857 >Remember that the state is a construct, not a thinking, acting entity So is capital.The rules you ascribe to it are a construct too and pur ideology.Capital to marxists is some type of gnostic demiurge with dialectical materialism providing the role of the saviour logos acting throughout history. The state is power over a defined geographical region and population.The question is who/what controls that power.Currently it is management elites who are largely under the thumb of extant capitalism. The question is how to get the right elite in power,preferably in several core western states at the same time ,to challenge global capital and knock it down a peg or 200. >the bureaucrats still had to extract surplus-value from workers This fixation on extraction of surplus value as inherently exploitative clouds all your thinking. Qualitative distinctions matter. >They were still beholden to capital and its inherent contradictions Capital? in what sense? Extraction of surplus value? No contradiction there outside the current capitalist system. >liberals of the late-nineteenth and early-twentieth century They did so to protect capitalism as we know it - not to castrate it and domesticate it as is my intent.They did nothing else which is required. >How does one provide increasingly large quantities of start-up capital to such inefficient entities with any hope of recouperation Currently SMEs are 80% of the uk economy.No special govt funding is even required.What is required is the evisceration of big porkies ie breaking up monopolies,transnationals and eliminating parasitical privateer finaniers by aforementioned nationalisation of the financial industries - on a pan-national level. >first economic downturn There will be no further downturns after pan-national autarkic control of finance.The "business cycle" is a product of the current govt-corp-finance complex aka extant capitalism - which is an arbitrary construct >This sounds a lot like the British and American economic system of the early-eighteenth century when the factory system was still young. The american system yes.Some similarities.That was back when americans were still wise to the banking oligarchies and their games.

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>>4861 >Youre too* smart to delude yourself otherwise. >"Capital" of itself is sterile unless propped up by* state enforced usury and fiat
>>4859 Lets expand this debate beyond just you stating marxist ideology and me disagreeing. It will get circular and dull. Let's bring in some other issues eg social issues,humanbiodiversity,the "women issue",woke capital - the radlib faggotry spewed forth by the current liberal superstructure etc
>>4859 You still alive comrade?

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Biology Comrade 05/16/2020 (Sat) 21:02:29 No. 4841 [Reply] [Last]
Where should I post a thread discussing biological subspecies and strain? I'm having a lot of questions reading up on recent advances in human genetics and would like to discuss the topic collaboratively with you guys, in hopes of also countering some alt-right memetic talking points that are going around online ("dog races" argument, which is very packed with issues). At first I wanted to post it on /leftypol/, but I know how that turned out historically. Maybe /edu/ would be better? I want to at least give you guys a word of it before I make it, so it doesn't come as a shock or seem ulterior. Is it okay? Basically, this is intended to be anti-racist, but mostly just addressing human biology and contemporary genetic/biological research.
>>4841 >but mostly just addressing human biology and contemporary genetic/biological research from the lens of dialectical materialism*.
I'll basically name the thread human biology, start with a paragraph of non-controversial foundations that are quite important but often missed(?), like pointing out that homo sapiens-sapiens is a subspecies, and that "race" isn't a contemporary biological category at all. Then I will address some of the other topics mentioned in the OP in-thread, so as to not bump a OP with any trace of uncertainty or arguable points; letting it only contain basics of human biology and leaving the potential debates for the reply-chains. I invite mods to be heavy-handed if /pol/ or IDpol thinks they're welcome while the replies are going, as I want this to develop dialectically forward into a heightened biological understanding for bunkerchan and not make another "IDpol containment thread".
Please give it a chance.
>>4844 Sure, personally I feel like it would be better on /edu/.
>>4854 Yeah, I agree. I think /edu/ is the better choice.

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