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Comrade 07/05/2020 (Sun) 04:00:53 No. 5149 [Reply] [Last]
why did my thread about the myth of degeneracy get nuked????
Cuz it was shit?
>>5151 No it wasn't, it was a concise explanation how trying to argue against accusations of degeneracy is just falling for their trap.
>>5149 Try posting with a nazi flag, mods are afraid to delete those posts lest they awaken the kraken known as /pol/.
>>5156 >mods are afraid to delete those posts theliteralnazee doesn't get banned because he's shitposting ironically and isn't a real nazi. We drove off a /pol/ raid a while back and raided them instead, so the mods are fine. >>5149 1) Cause it was shit 2) Cause it isn't a myth

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Comrade 02/01/2020 (Sat) 13:00:45 No. 4120 [Reply] [Last]
What's left opinion on antinatalism and efilism, antinatalism and utilitarianism?
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I am an anti-natalist, but it it can be a quite arrogant, petty-bourgeois position to take especially when anti-natalists who live in the west start hating on people of the 3rd world for having to much children. Also most anti-natalists don't have an actual idea how to stop this suffering, like changing the economic system which in itself will reduce suffering and cause people to have less suffering. Most are just Western Nihilists/pessimists hobbyists, purely for the aesthetic.
>>4178 >Cause people to have less suffering Cause people to have *less children*
>>4122 it's not based it assumes life is inherently miserable guess what? it's not. stop projecting your bad childhoods and depression onto people's babies.
You are indeed on the wrong board, though I doubt >>>/leftypol/ will be much more receptive to it, not least because it is not necessarily "leftist". Though you can try your luck there, you may have a better discussion (albeit at a much slower pace) at >>>/dead/, one of the secret unlisted boards where post-leftists, anti-ideological lefties, nihilists, and the like dwell. I am more than happy to discuss it further there. (I'm the schizonihilist anon who is now unable to post on /leftypol/ now that it has blocked all Tor nodes.) But nonetheless, I will try to summarise my responses to these ideas: Antinatalism as a position is rather orthogonal to leftism because it is a philosophical position born from a pessimistic existential contemplation of suffering as it relates to birth. It tends to be found among those more leftward due to some of the usual assumptions and framings that antinatalism takes, such as consent and atheism and materialist conceptions of existence, but it is not by any means an exclusively leftist perspective -- especially because it is more interested in existence and suffering than it is in liberation per se (though some take it in liberationist directions). "Efilism" is honestly a meme pseudophilosophy originating from the pet self-theory of an amateur philosopher on YouTube. It attempts to describe and capture a particularly death-affirming antinatalist perspective that values death over life and inexistence over existence. The main problem I have with it is that the entire concept seems to be developed from a rather amateurish philosophical approach, especially in terms of its terminology, and seems to have zero engagement with more serious philosophy like Nietzsche's radical critiques of all death-affirming and passively nihilistic problematisations of suffering (of which "efilism" is just another death cult like Christianity and Buddhism). While I think the concepts captured by what amateurs call "efilism" has some merit, if only as an example of a radically and holistically antinatalist perspective on the question of life, it needs rehabilitation from someone more sophisticated in philosophy. Even then, however, I think the entire perspective is fatally flawed and philosophically bankrupt because it fundamentally functions as merely an atheistic and secular form of death cultism, only basically distinguishable from Christianity or Buddhism by its radically pessimistic and materialist antinatalism. Additionally, I frankly find the term itself to be rather juvenile. If "efilism" is to be taken more seriously outside of niche amateur online antinatalist and philosophy circles, it needs better naming, such as "radical antinatalism" or "thanatism" or even "mortalism"; and it needs some serious development into a philosophy that provides a coherent and persuasive response to Nietzsche's life-affirming active nihilism and to the paradise engineering technohedonism of philosophers like David Pearce. I don't think it can, but that is the challenge it faces. Regarding the relation between "efilism" and leftism, it inherits whatever association it has from its antinatalist parent, though I suspect "efilism" is more amenable to radically reactionary perspectives than antinatalism tends to be, in part because it is itself a radically reactionary response to the existence of life. Utilitarianism is a whole other bag of worms with a complex relationship to leftism and politics, and all I can say at a general summary level is that it is an approach to utility, happiness, and suffering which seeks to optimise and economise existence toward the former two and (usually) against the latter, but in doing so instrumentalises all existence and tends to privileges death over life in its attempts at accounting for possible futures within present conditions. It is fundamentally flawed in that sense and many more, though as a hermeneutical method it may still have its place when subsumed within a larger ethic (even a nihilist one). Considering how each interact with each other is a far more complex analysis that demands even more text than I have already typed thus far (when this was intended to be brief), so I will refrain from doing so, except briefly thus: "efilism" is at best a radically death-affirming form of amateur antinatalism that seems to lack the philosophical engagement, nuance, and sophistication of its antinatalist parent; whereas both "efilism" and antinatalism are usually approached within a utilitarian framework that prioritises suffering/disutility over pleasure/utility, yet can operate outside those frames. If you want to discuss this further, I recommend going to >>>/dead/619 or creating your own thread there. If you go to /leftypol/, I will be unable to join you and caution that you will probably not get a satisfying response. Lastly, >>>/edu/ is another option, though that board is more a general space for serious discussion and I have yet to frequent there.
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Comrade 07/01/2020 (Wed) 21:01:27 No. 5076 [Reply] [Last]
On what basis should I even believe that this website is not one immense false flag / controlled opposition operation by /pol/-tier reactionaries? The board administration is almost completely stocked with reactionaries, their behavior is precisely what one would expect from reactionaries seeking to sow unrest (random and indefensible bans, inconsistent Tor access, lack of rule enforcement, unreliable board moderation, etc.), and the IRC is literally full of ultratraditionalists and fascists who think homosexuals are working with trans people in Soros-funded campaigns to enforce mass abortion and funnel children into the arms of pedophile rings, being "moderated" by someone who explicitly states as much and who was appointed by space_ himself! And as we all know, space_ has been a reactionary since the very beginning. I am convinced that this entire board is a setup for harvesting radical leftist time and data either for mass surveillance or to allow reactionaries to control the discourse. It's no wonder this website uses CloudFlare and is trying to ban Tor usage: it wants the IPs and post histories of everyone who had leftist sentiments. If it isn't, then prove it.
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>>5124 high turnover There is a list in the mod thread it is outdated. You know you could go through the logs noting down every name you find in a certain timeframe, this would give you a better idea of actually active vols than any list of mod accounts.
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>>5076 this site is completely irrelevant, useless, stupid and very highly cucked to be even considered "opposition" glowniggers don't care about you
>>5117 this post was made by a reddit user
>>5117 it never occured to you that mods are users who want to make this site better because they use it? I feel one of these guys is pissed off because I banned him for a couple of hours for a terrible post about not liking Rashid because he was lumpen. The post was borderline fascist. >it's gotten so bad this just seems like pure hysteria. >space is reactionary i honestly don't know, but he isn't actively moderating the site. >tor we've been having CP problems. We are looking into reestablishing tor access.
>>5129 Not me (OP).

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Comrade 06/17/2020 (Wed) 18:25:56 No. 5004 [Reply] [Last]
yesterday i got banned for some stupid shit i did, i definitely deserved the ban, but when i checked on how long it would still take i noticed it got retracted, you did not have to do that, you should have banned me for longer, not for shorter
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>>5014 its okay
>>5021 Can I?
>>5004 >>5006 That's good comrade. We are all trying to build a good community here and have a good time. Thanks for doing your part.

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I'm having difficulty with the captchas Comrade 06/30/2020 (Tue) 16:17:50 No. 5049 [Reply] [Last]
It keeps saying wrong answer or expired captcha, but I'm sure I did it right
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>>5051 Do you have any custom settings for your browser? Make sure java and XHR are allowed.
>>5053 Not to my knowledge, I'm running firefox and have tried posting in a private window and with tracking protection off. I just tried posting in a different browser (Brave) and it worked.
>>5054 What tracking protection do you use? I know turning off headers fucks with shit.
>>5055 The one built into firefox and also I got UBlock, Privacy Badger and Decentraleyes. Maybe it's because my firefox is outdated(?!), I've been running Arch Linux but haven't updated in a few months because of issues with my package manager and I'm too lazy to fix it. Anyway I was able to post by using a different browser, I'm good.
this has also been happening and I had to refresh the page before it started working again. I think cloudfare is fucking up due to the surge of new users

The need for regional boards in Bunkerchan for the world communist movement. Comrade 06/06/2020 (Sat) 22:41:41 No. 4932 [Reply] [Last]
(Translated from a post by another anon in /ref/) Right now, as the boards are organized in Bunkerchan, there is: >>>/Leftypol/, where people go to talk about leftist topics in general. That is, they go there to discuss theory and praxis in general terms, to discuss the socialist and anarchist experiments of the past (The USSR, the Iron Curtain countries, the Spanish civil war, Chile) and today (The Confederalists of Rojava, the dengists in China, Bolivarian Venezuela, Cuba, etc). >>>/GET/ is basically its own thing, it is not to discuss socialist theory, it is basically the resting room, the cafe or the Bunkerchan bar, you go there to shitpost or post things that do not concern the socialist movement. You go there to have fun, not to cultivate yourself. >>>/hobby/ >>>/games/ >>>/roulette/ And the rest are just boards for, well, hobbies and whatever comes out in Roulette that day. Here I also add >>>/gulag/ because it does not serve for Marxism, but serves to meta discussion about the site. >>> /REF/, belonging to the GETchan branch within Bunkerchan. In theory, it serves so that there can be respective threads for each nationality, well, better said for each language, taking into account that the /hispa/ thread corresponds to all the Spanish-speaking countries, all of which have different problems and different conditions , which makes the thread quite difficult to follow. At the same time, being inside the /GET/ field makes your threads become difficult terrain to walk on because there really is no serious discussion. /REF/ is organized to fool around with a little flag when you post, things like the thread of the local cuisine or the thread to learn languages ​​go as a custom suit for /REF/, but a speaking thread Hispanic, or a German-speaking thread, apart from shitposting, really do not have any use apart of that. And that's where we get at the topic at hand, why it is necessary to make regional boards for each region, or at least, for each anguage. tell from this very thread (/hispa/), how many communist parties have you joined, what is the situation in your own country, and so on. At most you will have the knowledge of an average, normal and ordinary communist, of your nation, or even less, because we focus on /leftypol/, we focus on communist theory, instead of focusing on the situation in our own countries and the events that occur in them. We can see such a thing, as a communist movement develops, within it /leftypol/ for the Yankees. The gringos, being so many on the Internet, almost make the American question central and /leftypol/ becomes /burger/ without we realizing it, since with so many Americans, the US becomes, by default, the navel of the world, both Americans and those who are not, are inadvertently participating in /burger/, not / leftypol/. Because of this, there needs to be boards that serve as local meeting places, for communists belonging to a region or a language. Spanish Communists should focus on Spanish problems, not post in English on how Americans should solve their own problems. Well, you can do both, and in fact you must, the problem is that you are not doing the first, while you are only doing the second. Another problem with the current organization of the boards is their language. Here everyone speaks in the lingua franca, this being English, but as we can corroborate, not everyone knows English. While learning English, at least in bunkerchan, is fundamental, the English barrier is a filter through which only those who know not only how to read, but also write English without making a fool of themselves can pass. I have often had to write posts in / leftypol / with the post window on one side and the google translator on the other because I don't have as much English vocabulary as I would like. That is why it is necessary for Bunkerchan to start developing boards for, at least, different languages. Of course, not all languages ​​will be there, but those that are more active, such as a board for the Spanish community, the German community or the British community. I know that there are at least 3 guys who are French, so there would also be an excuse to make a /baguette/ for the gabachos. If we want to grow as a network and as a communist movement on the web, we need to develop regional boards, language boards, for socialism and for Marxism.

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>>4964 There is definetly an audience. Imo the generals don't work because while spanish is a largely spoken language the counrtyes where it's spoken are generally small, and a general thread for all of them is bound to fail
What is the general consensus among the staff on the idea?
>>4992 I'm not sure that we're convinced of the fact that these hypothetical boards would get enough activity to justify their existence. The closest one to reality is I suppose /hispa/.
regional boards are probably going to end up divinding, we allready have >>>/ref/ for "the world communist movement"
>>5018 I agree with this. I could understand if, like, there was this massive Hispanic presence that can't be ignored, but, there itsn't.

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Sputnik##SgNipD 06/28/2020 (Sun) 03:32:58 No. 5042 [Reply] [Last]
>call someone a nigger >get banned >call someone a kike >get banned >say slur >get banned come on you're better than that guys
>>5042 They don't ban anyone for this. cope and seethe.
>>5044 i've seen it, shit happened to me
>be idiot >get banned >repeat forever >never learn anything You're doing great, dude. Keep it up.
>>5046 You've now been banned from /r/leftypol for ableism

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retroshare? Vox 06/20/2020 (Sat) 21:13:00 No. 5017 [Reply] [Last]
I know this is going to end poorly but I've gotta try and hopefully it wont be as bad as anticipated. Hello are you desperately lonely? Incredibly paranoid? Scrabbling for meaning in an empty and pointless existence? Wishing you had a way to experience human contact with minimal risk and (provided you take appropriate precautions) relative safety? Do you want to have friends but are deeply afraid of having anything you say used against you in one way or another. Wish that you had a way of keeping contact with one person without having them know who you are? Well I’m hoping to setup a friendly way of talking with other people in your same circumstances. To do this I’d like to invite as many people as possible with the above set of problems to join me in using Retroshare to reach out blindly into the darkness surrounding us. (and hope for the best) To do this in a safe and secure manner, I suggest following the instructions available on this page (https://retroshare.cc/downloads.html) to install, and route Retroshare through Tor, to ensure additional anonymity. Once that's done feel free to post your public key in the thread below. Have a nice day. I hope to have an interesting conversation with you in the future tl:dr I’m lonely I know your lonely too lets talk. CQEGAcGUxsBNBF7fDqoBCACwC7pl2MTJmJ5dHEgJmQxuJ/weVS/UfbUwgUgiEUHW Gy3SuGEmNAdMycVrKY3zUc0p2yUQA2z9QAS4B+cp2lIpbqgzHjZpVF59yfWyNk9w itbAupWpvV7/c4wbJZo0o0ZKwHKeaMtK6gUx0RHnCITyEKe+GK7CYwfuqgQkzrPV Hun8z0bHvEAl1LdLep9QTDiLAEFZIFO2V6naoGxrfXuqhFHrAip8ON/95CVY/YVG QLglQySfHn0sUk0StbkWABfKZdq77peSHLB4sjkW6CS44ZEuOTurhMAqOupSzQBe QCcoJKgdZsfA8m0Zu0IhtbSjtKoYZXSzJZKDQC2tWVlHABEBAAHNIFZveCAoR2Vu ZXJhdGVkIGJ5IFJldHJvU2hhcmUpIDw+wsBfBBMBAgATBQJe3w6qCRBxjMmYyjX4

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Bunkerchan is falling dowm Space_##m0Wyzz 07/05/2016 (Tue) 21:27:50 No. 436 [Reply] [Last]
falling down, falling down, bunkerchan is falling down, my fair lady.


Current problems
1) Deep_comrade Brought something up with the CSS
2)SSL has expired Hoxha, jny needs to update it.


Please add more to the thread.
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Come on, a
certbot certonly -w /var/www/servers/bunkerchan.xyz -d bunkerchan.xyz
isn't that hard
Piss off!
Certs been renewed!
>>436 >checks date how is this post 4 years old? i was 14 when this got posted for the first time and it is still here?
>>5010 It's the meta board, what do you expect? I deleted all the old shitposts so there would be more space in the catalog too. So old threads like this will stick around a while.

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bear's solution to serve space bear 03/30/2020 (Mon) 02:54:57 No. 4519 [Reply] [Last]
Bunkerchan was down for a while on 3/29/20, and while it was down, I was talking to a fellow fa/GET/ on how to fix the situation. I came up with this solution. Much like Margret Thatcher, we're going to need to do some austerity. Move any threads like people like, but are kinda slow burner (EX: /dprk/ , /prc/) and put them into a less active board, /ref/ being a perfect example, so that they don't die as easily. Then cut leftypol's page count by half to have more space in the servers. While you're at it, also move all country specific thread to /ref/ as it seems more appropriate the it would be there, as /ref/ is kinda like Bunkerchan's /int/ anyway **and would boost activity in that board, which may lead to more activity, see this thread >>321740** This is what i believe y'all should consider for this to not happen again, cause I don't want to see anything about topology anymore
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Why was Bunkerchan down this time?
>>4741 502 Error. Basically, bunkerchan fucked up talking to cloud-flair.
>>4554 Based and Honey-pilled, comrade bear-kun
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I gotta question. Has there been any talk among to staff or Space to get more servers. I remember during the riots when Bunker went down, Space was talking about getting another server on CyTube I believe


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