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Anonymous 11/17/2020 (Tue) 12:56:25 No. 8684 [Reply] [Last]
Where did everything go so wrong?
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>>8685 I've been here since 2016, i know there are effortposts but not the same amount as there was, I'm seeing less effortposts and more "post chin" replies especially on threads that has to do with /pol/, it just makes threads insufferable, i remember a time where mucho texto syndrome was very common, and where people would post walls of text even to a joke. >>8686 >The urge to squash “shitposting” and “incorrect theory” or whatever is what destroyed this place. Well its now destroyed because of shitposting, the antithesis has become the thesis, we need a new synthesis.
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>>8688 >the antithesis has become the thesis, we need a new synthesis.
>>8688 >especially on threads that has to do with /pol/ why are you even in these threads then? go to any of the myriad of other threads that aren't shitposting about shitposters
>>8684 HOLY SHIT THATS MY POST THATS MY POST I FEEL SO PROUD

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Comrade 10/01/2020 (Thu) 17:30:35 No. 7223 [Reply] [Last]
Please keep /anime/ elitist and delete e-celeb shit like threads about youtubers, vtubers, hololive and other social media garbage. It should be a board for discussion of anime and manga, not discussion of people discussing anime and manga on other AIDS platforms, or even worse, real people just wearing an anime girl shell thanks to the power of neural networks and facial recognition and not even talking about what the board is for, just doing random streamer crap.
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>>7223 >imagine being so assblasted about a single thread about ANIME youtubers that you bitch about it on /gulag/ you're pathetic. Not only are almost NONE of your 'soshul mediu" even MENTIONED, but your idea of "e-celeb" is fucking edgy bullshit >keep anime elitist LOL fucking wut, it's a board of weebs for weebs. Elitist in what? Also hello m8, this is a communist website, we don't take kindly to monarchism, oligarchy and capitalism.
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>>7223 Why do you keep complaining about this? If you don't like the threads just don't click on them, there's like 1-2 of them. The other users seem to want them, we can't erase it just to please you. Answered and anchored.
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>>7223 I had to laugh at this 2 months later

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Why did you delete the nazi economics thread? Comrade 11/15/2020 (Sun) 19:52:49 No. 8642 [Reply] [Last]
I get that it was made by a fascist, but he was clearly trying to argue in good faith and wasn't baiting/trolling, and his post was generating some good discussion. I don't want this place to turn into an echochamber where the other side is banned on site before we have a chance to adequately BTFO them.
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I support mods on this. We're /leftypol/ not /pol2/. All these irrelevant nazi orbiters make me go like "who asked".
>>8651 The mods have always made it clear that rightoids are allowed to post as long as they're willing to act in good faith, which is why I made this post in the first place. Besides, I think it's good for us to debate them every once in a while, it helps us sharpen and refine our polemics.
>>8656 Third positionism hasn't been relevant for 80 years. If you wanna sharpen your polemics find libs somewhere
>>8645 Well for what it's worth, I was in the middle of typing a rebuttal of your points and was going to explain some elements of Marxism to you when the trannie jannie deleted your post. I guess just create a new thread, and explain some of your points in the OP instead of just posting an infograph.
>>8649 echo-chamber cope

On the creation of /sp/ Comrade 11/15/2020 (Sun) 20:52:23 No. 8652 [Reply] [Last]
Mods, we need a sports board. It would be great, seeing as sports-related threads pop up in /leftypol/ sometimes. They could go there instead.
Maybe broaden it to include fitness, nutrition, cooking, a /health/? It would be good to have a board for mutual encouragement and support to avoid capitalist vices like being sedentary, obese, sugary and fatty foods etc. Strength and health goes with the vanguard just as much as literacy. The Soviet Man!
In my opinion, there is nowhere near enough interest in sports related topics to justify this. It would just be a dead board. Sorry anon. Maybe in the future.

Just make linking to it a wordfilter ban already. Lynxchan has that capability, doesn't it?
>>8616 yup >>>/leftypol/1131856 keep that post pinned
Seems to be dealt with for now so I will anchor this.

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A rant about the moderation Sputnik##SgNipD 11/11/2019 (Mon) 16:42:42 No. 2657 [Reply] [Last]
I've already said this before on here but I may as well make a thread dedicated to it.

The mods on /leftypol/ are trash, extremely trash and I think the moderation team on this part of the site needs to be completely changed I know I'm probably pissing in the wind but in all honesty but one of the benefits and points to an imageboard is anonminity and the lack of a circlejerk, the mods don't respect either of these aspects and because of that this site has been seeing less and less users coming into this site the few users that do show up now are mostly redditors, remember that this place isn't Reddit nor is this the moderator's personal circlejerk and that was the main problem with the original /leftypol/ when it went to hell, not the fact that it was run by a tankie or something like that.

tl;dr the mods suck
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>>8531 Look at the dates, an anon bumped this.
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>>8526 it seems you guys are anchoring all forms of criticism of yourselves, i wonder why :^)
>>8538 Because this board is cluttered and it's impossible to properly address criticism in it as it was.
>>8535 I know, Look at the dates. the reply is 11/11/2020 to a thread posted 11/11/2019. It's just an ironic observation.
I am getting rather fed up with the overmoderation around here lately myself. I've started to see mods shutting down discussions when they simply personally don't like them or can't handle the heat. This is the kind of behavior I started to see when 8ch/leftypol/ was going downhill. When this happens even one time it needs to be called out and dealt with, failure to do so builds a culture of impunity and elitism among the mods.

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Idpol ban Comrade 07/30/2020 (Thu) 21:53:01 No. 6006 [Reply] [Last]
This is unworkable. Who defines idpol? Sorry but I've spent so much time trying to educate radlibs that idpol without class is fascist-adjacent shit, but we don't need to go to the other direction where we simply talk about class without anything else. The world doesn't work like that. Yes idpol is a social construction, but so are the """commonsense"" explanations as to why capitalism spread (this is literally in marx btw). What was wrong with having a thread about it? Are we seriously going to have a leftypol where talking about racism is banned on site, but we can have a e-celeb general? Come on, I thought this place was supposed to be better than that? Are we not allowed to discuss the New Afrikan Black Panthers anymore? Theodore Allen? Stuart Hall? B.R.Ambedkar? Fred Hampton? Something I've realised (and there was a thread by someone else about this recently) is that all the things we despise "idpol" for, the hysteria, the categorisation of victim/oppressor dynamics..these are already being talked about by the people in that mileu. If you want to ban bait threads from tourists fine, but that should already be covered in the rules, but all that's going to happen is that people having meaningful conversations about the intersection of race, gender and class in a capitalist society are going to be disciplined into second guessing themselves because they will wonder if their post will be banned. Say goodbye to any effort posting on that front. Not to mention that this will also encourage bad faith posters to try and shut down threads or posters they don't like by screaming "IDPOL" and mashing the report button. The current sticky in leftypol doesn't say anything clear. it just says "the mods will crackdown". That's not good enough. Be clear about what will and what won't be tolerated.
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>>8532 not a bullshit buzzphrase. if you can't understand gender, sexuality, or race as a dialectical then you're not a marxist just a joke
>>8544 They are bullshit buzzphrases. There is no dialectical reasoning behind "non-cis gender helicopter-kins" It's the kind of autism that wouldn't even pass Marx's, Lenin's, Engels', Stalin's or Castro's minds and is blatant attention whoring by people whose egos are alienated by capitalist aimlessness and who search for an identity in anything, even made up sexual rubbish.
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>>8582 >There is no dialectical reasoning behind "non-cis gender helicopter-kins" like pottery
leftypol (even in 8ch days 6 years ago) has always been a bit too liberal with calling shit idpol but a recent trend of labeling LGBT issues as 'bourgeois decadence' is both a regression in thought and without any real precedent. Aside from Paul Dickblast, I'm not aware of any popular Marxists who are so avowedly anti-lgbt.
>>8624 No argument furfag >>8654 >Muh Cockshott baaaad >It's REEEGRESSSSSION REEEEEEE Fuck off glownigger.

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Comrade 11/09/2020 (Mon) 09:53:48 No. 8449 [Reply] [Last]
You bumplocked the other thread and then linked to another thread, implying I should post there, and then you locked that one too. I think the only hint here is that you have no argument and like to run away from anyone who shits on the easily-disprovable LTV. Marx is a charlatan.
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>>8449 >I think the only hint here is that you have no argument and like to run away from anyone who shits on the easily-disprovable LTV. Holy based.
>this retard again
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>>8452 >I think the only hint here is that you have no argument and like to run away from anyone who shits on the easily-disprovable LTV Holy cope lmao. You get BTFO in every one of your shit threads and instead of actually addressing the arguments made against you, just make new threads using the same talking points. Kill yourself.

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Bait/Sectarian threads epidemic Comrade 11/01/2020 (Sun) 22:12:49 No. 8216 [Reply] [Last]
Rn half of the board is engulfed in shitty threads that literally amount to "Lmao Tankies owned" or "Anarkids bad lol". Could you please start being less lenient on that?
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>>8415 To be fair, we have a 'special relationship' with /pol/. There are probably other places that are better for garnering converts, but there's probably nowhere that is better than /leftypol/ to 'acclimatise' a /pol/ack to leftism. In addition, I see redpilling a fascist as infinitely more valuable than making a left-libertarian mildly less SJW-fied, though that is still a good thing. We have reached out to other places than /pol/ in the past, though usually not in an official capacity, for example reddit, Facebook, and so on. Also, I have now learned that tweet is from 2019 so it is practically ancient history in internet terms. Thank you for your concern however. We do value feedback.
>>8418 >we have a 'special relationship' with /pol/ >I see redpilling a fascist as [...] valuable Can I ask why you are of this opinion? I don't agree and consider /pol/ to be small and increasingly irrelevant -- even if they become relevant - they become relevant in the manner in which we need to have strong numbers in a red army to neutralize them, before they succeed in acting at the behest of the conservation of capital. >infinitely more valuable than making a left-libertarian mildly less SJW-fied Meanwhile, the demographic of "liberal" (in the broadest sense of the term) is by far larger, more relevant, and pertinent to our immediate work: in ridding the proletariat of false consciousness, in countering dominant ideology succinctly, in knowing what arguments to prioritize to the average person (an unconscious liberal) and why that is. This may sound easy, but it's not. It requires deep philosophical, historical, economic, sociological and lately ecological understanding on the part of our side. Liberals rely on modern economics, psychology, sociology, public relations, massmedia... Nazis rely on deprecated anthropology from a century ago and appeals to emotion. Do we want to be influential? Because I think that we could be. We aren't now.
>>8424 I agree that converting liberals is important and if we do so, then awesome, but our website format is offputting to Reddit/Facebook/Twitter type liberals, so we are not the best people to convince them, probably. I also think that fascists are a more immediate danger to the left/to society than the average liberal. If we convert fascists, we might actually stop people from being killed in eg mass shootings. Now, perhaps the people far gone enough to do that stuff could never be convinced, but even so they will be less encouraged without their echo chamber. To sum up, I would like to attract all people possible, but we can't throw away what people like about the site to chase liberals or any group in particular.
>>8427 >Now, perhaps the people far gone enough to do that stuff could never be convinced I'm reasoning like this because the people I grew up around that actually went fascist had those influences in the household (i.e. they were conditioned into these sets of beliefs by significant personal influences in their lives) and so to me they indeed do seem entirely far-gone. This usually isn't the case for people that base their evaluations on liberal presuppositions, especially because Marxism has been explicitly developed as a critique for this, but also because liberalism at least tries to rely on logic, reason, science, even though the manner in which they do is incorrect. >we can't throw away what people like about the site There's so much more (for me at least) to chan culture than being a reaction to /pol/. That's why people often experience nostalgic feelings when encountering /GET/ for the first time (not that I'm putting GET on a pedestal here, but it's a good referential example). I don't see why we couldn't have wide influence if we leveraged our hand well. Look up the history of LulzSec for example. That was an emergent phenomenon of an anonoymous imageboard before /pol/ had ideological hegemony over the political side of chans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op_Payback#Operation_Avenge_Assange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LulzSec Not saying we should directly do things like this, just that maybe we should broaden our prospective horizons of what's possible.
>>8427 >our website format is offputting to Reddit/Facebook/Twitter type liberals Could've fooled me with the constant threads about what literal whos are doing on social media shit.

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/GET/chan shitshow thread Sputnik##SgNipD 08/19/2020 (Wed) 00:41:42 No. 6423 [Reply] [Last]
Who here is part of space_'s super secret fascist clique ?
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>>8395 Why have mods become a cloistered, secret cabal that never communicates outside of whenever usebase revolts are inches from happening? Why are you all of a sudden lenient on radlibs and invite neonazis onto our board from a Twitter that was meant to act as outreach to leftists around the web to grow our shriveled community of booklets and nazbols? Why are you letting Graceposter, either an autist reactionary or a fed on a payroll intended to sow discord, derail all OC/draw threads on Bunkerchan with spiteful / condescending artworks involving "her" abusing a prominent mascot of our site? Why do you have "anti-sectarian" as a banner, yet never enforce it? Is not lenient treatment of royalists, fascists, nazis, radlibs and Pol-Potists the most sectarian moderation policy a "left-wing" board could possibly conceive of? t. /leftypol/er of 4 years.
>>8399 I agree we haven't been working hard enough to respond to posts on this board. I apologise and we will try to do better.
>>8399 >Why have mods become a cloistered, secret cabal that never communicates outside of whenever usebase revolts are inches from happening? We have tended to not use this board that much. That is wrong, I apologise. However, many of the posts here cannot meaningfully be responded to and just devolve into yelling at us. >Why are you all of a sudden lenient on radlibs and invite neonazis onto our board from a Twitter that was meant to act as outreach to leftists around the web to grow our shriveled community of booklets and nazbols? That is Coma's twitter, not the leftypol/bunkerchan twitter. However, we have always been open to /pol/ converts or even honest discussion with fascists. >Why are you letting Graceposter, either an autist reactionary or a fed on a payroll intended to sow discord, derail all OC/draw threads on Bunkerchan with spiteful / condescending artworks involving "her" abusing a prominent mascot of our site? Because they like to draw and it's cute I guess. They seem pretty harmless to me, I mean come on, a monarchist in 2020? >Why do you have "anti-sectarian" as a banner, yet never enforce it? We cannot make tankies and anarkids be nice to each other, we try to be 'non sectarian' and not take an official moderation stance. That said we could do more to trim the worst sectarian threads.

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>>6663 long live 8/leftpol/ the true vangaurd
>>8410 >devolve into yelling at us. Think of it like Game creators, you fuck up, and people get angry, it takes time and effort to get people to cool their jets.

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