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Just continuing a conversation from /leftytrash/ Comrade 03/01/2020 (Sun) 13:45:09 No. 4314 [Reply] [Last]
I know that some people don't like the metafagging in /leftytrash/ so I made this thread to have a conversation. So anon what are your general problems with the /leftypol/ moderation?
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>>4326 Also, FYI: In my experience with image-boards it is the other-way around. Posting with mods flags and admin tags, etc, is not common practice and is shunned in most instances. As for the flags, sorry, man. I don't think any one wants more flags. Most people I have seen barely want the ones we have now. People use them to construct identities. We just refuse to remove them because they are part of our culture since the dawn of leftypol.
nothing better to do so may as well >>4322 >vol here. Thanks for the feedback. It's very unfortuante that you feel no trust in the mod team. I should specify I trust the vols a bit more than the mods because they are more "connected" to the broader board politics than the mods feel to be, and seem to do most of the legwork besides. >We do take user input, it's very hard to gauge what the general user sentiment is because there are conflicting opinions. But we read them and discuss them. That would be news to literally everyone tbh, even on this pyongyang issue we were never informed of the nature or severity of it until it was thankfully leaked, with the best we got as a warning beforehand a spoopy-ass warning to have the bunker onhand. Meanwhile /GET/ had publically talked about the issue with its userbase and warned them that there was a rogue mod issuing and lifting bans without any mandate from the existing structures of power like, a week or two before /leftypol/ mods were practically forced to acknowledge it. What gain was there in suppressing this information of an actual, imminent threat to site security and the affairs of the board? What was the contingency going to be if space decided to nuke the site, or pyongyang went on a spree of deleting threads? we were basically allowed to be sheep free for the slaughter by being wholly uninformed of what was happening internally to no tangible end. >I'd encourage you to apply for volunteer TBH I think I already know in what direction that will go. There are simply a few mods who hold views that are not only contradictory, but irreconcilable with the political body of myself, but also likely a good deal of the userbase. The problems of the ideological gap between different users - and especially moderators, always ensures that any left unity is tenuous, because as always there is no real communication between moderation and the wider community. Trust is something that is earned through open and equal communication between people, and with the current state of things there isn't any communication, any mediation, or really any solidarity between moderation and the userbase. All left ideologies, from meme-tier egoists to ancoms to MLs and more, emphasize the important of organization and communication not just in the actions of a party-structure, but in all left action as a function of solidarity between proletariat. As-is, we fail at the first hurdle in being an effective left community.
>>4325 >The issue with the incels, reactionaries, really any one acting nefariously is once you start cracking down on the obvious ones then they retreat into being more nebulous and vague. Then it is better to allow for the community to counter the reactionaries than to allow them to go around freely. Right now the moderation still follows an ML-style organization as was mandated by the old BO, except without an actual party line to enforce on the underlying "party members" in the posters. So you have a lot of cases of mods deleting one post or another over an offense they take to the post which gets lifted by another mod when they check over the appeal, which just leaves the impression of nobody knowing what they are doing. you either need to adopt a cohesive line and publish it for the wider posting group to see so as to enforce an actual policy over the board or you need to rapidly democratize the moderation powers to more and more vols who can act as a check against each other, where enough of the common poster is present as moderation so as to better reflect the community values in the moderation enforcement. this wishy-washy center we have right now is just barely operable when it is needed. >I don't know if this is because everyone resides on one time zone or we still don't have enough mods or what is really going on. No offense but you need to audit yourselves and see who is doing what when and get an idea of time coverages. do you all even have a central authority figure to conduct anything? >This post is just too defeatist This is fair, I was retarded and uninformed.
>>4322 >>4325 You're not listening. That poster also touched on some things I've been saying for a while now. But those are the things you don't respond to. All you talk about is your moderation style, how you do this, how you do that, how you ban incels, no one cares about your individual perspective, you liberals. We're talking about systemic issues with the running of the site. This site would not improve even if we got the best, kindest mods ever that still didn't listen to user input. How do you not understand this? Which part of "more democratic decision-making" are you struggling with? >>4315 >we've never really created a new, community wide overarching goal >>4316 >are we supposed to be sticking to our chan-era roots, taking a reformist angle and becoming more pan-leftist, or fucking what? Exactly what I had said in the /leftypol/ mod thread, Comatoast's answer was that /leftypol/ is everything at once. >>4316 >recently there has been a bit of a perception of the moderation having a faster trigger finger when it comes to comrades than they do against reactionaries and spammers again, something I've said. It's really easy to see a person's post history, isn't it? You can literally tell if the person is a leftist or what their motivations are, but you seem to just judge in the moment. Do you not understand how to a /pol/ tourist that doesn't matter (because, among other things, they expect that response) but to someone who has been on /leftypol/ for a long time it gets annoying as fuck. >>4315 >this ends up having literally about everyone disliking the moderation as a force for their own specific reasons, which in turn erodes any perception of moderation acting with any kind of popular support, which makes the entire mod team seem more like tyrants than community managers Again, something I've written about. You don't involve the user base enough. You had an opportunity to run a poll for the roulette board, you couldn't even do that. If you want the users to trust you more then you have to trust the users and not assume that every poster is a wrecker in disguise.

You know... Comrade 03/03/2020 (Tue) 04:02:05 No. 4334 [Reply] [Last]
The overboard is actually really fucking based.
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/overthread/ when? I'm tired of needing to look into every thread separately. Just show me all the new posts at once
An /overcatalog/ would make it even better. Also this >>4336
>>4336 How would something like that even work? Lol.
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>>4334 No, anon. You're based. Thank you for being so based.

Apparently I'm a spammer Comrade 02/16/2020 (Sun) 06:26:36 No. 4208 [Reply] [Last]
I haven't posted on leftypol in years - I pretty much just lurk most the time. Yesterday I was replying to a thread on reparations when it was deleted, so I made my own to keep the conversation going (and to put up my reply, how vain). Anyways, after replying a few more times to various anons, I got a message stating "Your IP was recognized as a know spammer." Idk what this is supposed to mean, like if I'm now banned or something, but all I was doing was talking to people about a topic that may be seen as idpol related. To be clear, I never supported reparations in any of my posts, and pretty much just talked about the conditions of black Americans and the difficulties that might arise concerning a broader revolutionary strategy. At any rate, it seemed to be a productive conversation, but now I can't post in my own thread cus Im apparently a spammer. To be clear, I wasn't supporting idpol, but asking how class solidarity could be formed. What do?
Sometimes spam filters catch IPs that people are actually using. Our hosting ssrvice is cloudflair and they are well known with their levels of suckage. I'll talk to space about your situation and see what we can do. Sorry about this.
>>4208 Using a VPN?
>>4208 The original thread about reparations was full of white-knight sectarian radlibs, thus your continuation of the thread may have been seen as spam or shilling.
>>4219 Not as far as I'm aware of. My apartment might have one in place to bypass this countries internet censorship. I can check if I still have problems once I'm back home in the next few weeks. Btw, I'm posting from my phone cus I'm now getting the message "your ip was recognized as a known spammer" on this board too >4220 Point taken

Comrade 01/23/2020 (Thu) 03:26:21 No. 4009 [Reply] [Last]
How do I leave this place for good?
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>>4014 You must be so cool and edgy, how is middle school going tranny? Do your fellow schoolmates have problems accepting your transition.
>>4022 I'm not the poster you're replying to but what do you think of this idea >>4017
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>>4023 It's actually a good idea, thank you. Been doing "fine" these two days. This is offtopic and you probably don't care but I am going to publicly state anyway (long): I actually want to thank the admins and space for providing this platform for free and keeping it free from posters from pol, I know that sometimes I acted like an asshole and people that recognised my posts thought I was a provocateur. I know that after my "sperg out" it sounds like I hate them but I don't I understand their paranoia because this place is filled with polfag shitposts and co-opts. I am fucking insane beyond salvation and I the first one to recognise it, I lack may lack certain amount of self awareness but not enough self awareness to understand that crying myself to sleep at 8 AM and being addicted to receive hate from internet dwellers (my only social interaction) is not normal nor good for me. Before killing myself I may try moving to the woods and accept that my autism has sentenced me to permanent social isolation, at this point I couldn't care less about self-preservation, everyone but me has a sixth sense and I feel like I am blind and I am constantly tripping over, and somehow it's custom to point and laugh as I trip But again thank you Space and hot pockets, please don't hate me too much. TLDR: Goodbye lol. Unironically wish you the best.
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>>4009 Well if you don't want to be involved in politics the problem is you at least to a degree. I personally don't dislike you though if you're who I think you are. I wish you where more political and a bit less emotional, but you are way less annoying then some anons take /leftypol/ itself super seriously. My investment in /leftypol/ is also emotional. The difference I guess is that I genuinely enjoy my time on this board and look back pretty fondly at old threads. Something about seeing OC come together in real time I find gratifying. Before /leftypol/ my board was /lit/ so I got to watch the Max Stiner meme develop from it's infancy. Nowadays I'll get sent memes by real world friends that I saw posted as OC when I was a teenager. Something about that feels kinda beautiful. Like I got to play a behind the scenes part in bringing something funny (and occasionally profound) into the public conciousness. The dopamine hit is real; I am also a smoker, and I still snort cocaine but what really keeps me coming back is the good memories.
Buy a dog.

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Remove the bans Comrade 01/31/2020 (Fri) 22:23:56 No. 4105 [Reply] [Last]
FUCKING FURFAG MODS >>>/leftypol/240636 >>>/leftypol/241319 these posters did noting wrong!
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>>4169 Use the fucking report function. He's been banned many times.
>>4170 I just don't get how you can't handle that guy, block his whole VPN or ISP range for like a week or a month if it's necessary, yet you're fine with permanently blocking all of Tor, which is a much much larger user base than some single VPN or ISP, it's probably just one user.
>>4171 I'm sorry I can't help you with the Tor issue, I'm not one of the few tech guys we have. I only know the situation is being looked into (for me posting with Tor browser works fine). Maybe I should try out range bans, that's an idea.
>>4172 >for me posting with Tor browser works fine Tor is permanently banned only on /leftypol/, it works fine on other boards. To be specific the ban does not explicitly refer to Tor but to "ASN 23664" (ban id "5e372da2342eb133900d2012") which seems to cover almost all of Tor exit nodes for some reason. Might be related to CloudFlare? Anyway, hopefully someone from tech team can fix this.
>>4174 I loaded up a vm and was able to post through the onion browser, but, last time I tried to post through privoxy I was unsuccessful. Maybe it doesn't work correctly unless you are using the browser? I mean, cloud-flair is pretty fucky.

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Banned for transgressions against the pod Comrade 02/05/2020 (Wed) 01:48:10 No. 4158 [Reply] [Last]
I was just temp banned for using the term "whiny jew voice" in reference to the hosts of chapo. This is what happens when you let podcast listeners run your board /leftypol/! Take those goofy earbuds out and read a goddamn book like a proper communist! CHAPOFAGS BEGONE
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>>4159 >ban got appealed *appeal got approved
You were banned for reactionary cloaking. Calling them jews like that is clearly a violation of rule 3.
>>4163 That is retarded. Reactionary cloaking means trying to hide reactionary beliefs in left wing rhetoric ei. strasserism, nazbol bullshit, etc. Calling the voices of the hosts of chapo "whiny jew voices" is not reactionary cloaking! It is simply using "jew" in a way that is derogatory. You don't have to like it, but if you're gonna allow racial slurs on your board I don't see how you can reasonably draw the line at "jew".
>>4189 Jews are white and blacks aren’t, therefore saying niggers is okay but not any Jew jokes. Just don’t say anything that would upset a little pussy on /pol/ and you’ll be fine.
>>4189 Calling them jews has nothing to do with it, rather, it is calling them jews in a way that implies that jews are some kind of structural issue. If you don't think that comes off as pol level nonsense than need to reevaluate. >>4190 Trying to lie will help nothing.

Comrade 02/11/2020 (Tue) 15:13:00 No. 4184 [Reply] [Last]
I wanted to reply, but I didn't want to start another shitstorm in the mod thread. >>/leftypol/270561 >It hurt white people’s feelings, so therefore it’s Idpol. The post basically implied idpol is good and if you disagree you're white. How is that not idpol? >But saying “nigger” isn’t idpol That depends on the circumstances if you call a /pol/tard a /pol/nigger, it shouldn't be counted as idpol But saying "niggers are subhumans" is idpol. >I’m going to enjoy watching /leftypol/ collapse into another reactionary echo chamber again. >again It was never reactionary.
Some people are just retards, OP
>>4184 The post basically implied idpol is good and if you disagree you're white. How is that not idpol? No, I said the board is racist and it hides it with it's hypocritical "anti-idpol" stance which is really just quite implicit endorsement of white supremacy. >But saying “nigger” isn’t idpol >That depends on the circumstances This is something only white people believe. It's funny how I never hear white people saying this to black people in public. I mean surely black people understand it depends on circumstances lol >It was never reactionary. You all coddle Nazis but REEEE at anyone criticizing feminism and declare theme incels, it was always deeply reactionary. >Some people are just retards, OP Racist cope.

Why don't the users elect and recall mods? Comrade 02/03/2020 (Mon) 11:07:55 No. 4133 [Reply] [Last]
Those who are applying for the position can have their post history displayed publicly and then users can decide. And the decision would be in the form of "If no one has anything against _". We have mod logs, those mods that do stupid shit can be recalled after enough complaints; wouldn't even need a "majority", but if they get a dozen complaints they're out. Why pretend like there isn't a reserve army of bullied kids ready to grab onto and wield some internet power? For every bad mod, there are half a dozen less bad ones waiting to take his spot, probably. Then maybe Admins wouldn't need to prostrate themselves and beg for forgiveness after a rogue mod does something stupid.
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>>4135 or you could specifically select those with a long term posting history and invite them into an off board communication place with one vote each
>>4139 I think more people need to enter into the irc, too, personally.
>>4138 not sure which is the best option, there are probably others also. It would be good to have a conversation about how it might be possible to implement some kind of a democracy however
Mod Moderator A person who moderates A person who makes discussion more moderate. The opposite of a revolutionary. This is my song to you mods. Contemplate it well. Meditate upon’t
Votes suck, arguments exist.

Comrade 12/24/2019 (Tue) 00:29:15 No. 3831 [Reply] [Last]
>>>/GET/45269 Not only I get perma-banned for using the word 'neurotypical' the fucking mod mocks me because I am Spanish, the fuck is this shit?
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>>3847 what sort of parties do you have?
>>3848 comrade king you banned me thinking I was the castillian ban evading wtf you didn't even cared to watch the post history.
>>3845 /leftypol/ mods have no power over /GET/ mods and vice versa so it's not realistic to group them together
>>>/GET/45271 >>>/GET/45269 Imagine calling me an autistic sperg, using the 'muh tendies' meme against me, defending a neolib, perma-banning me for saying neurotypical + catalufo and still thinking that I am the one who is a reactionary. Listen up I don't give a shit if your community is 9 years old, do you see that sidebar up there? Now, it's not your community, is our community, fuck off, if you want intimacy and your own rules create a fucking Discord server like all the Twitter trannie mongs. You neurotypicals sure love to mock autistic children for safe spaces free from sensory overload, the special signs to avoid being shot by police and our 'sperging out', but you are acting like a bunch of hypersensitive snowflakes. I'd bet you were the motherfuckers spamming reports two months ago to get me banned in /dead/ and /leftypol/
>>3831 Based mods, tbh

Comrade 02/03/2020 (Mon) 15:21:59 No. 4142 [Reply] [Last]
Some motherfucker is spamming the site again.


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