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Thoughts on this pic. Comrade 04/25/2020 (Sat) 17:00:37 No. 1334 [Reply] [Last]
Not so much on race but why did those countries get so far ahead from other countries? what were the material conditions that made Europe the breeding ground for innovation?
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>>1490 For better or for worse (worse, mostly) English is the de facto language of science and the world. At this point, it is those who refuse to learn English, who sequester themselves in their own language that are holding back progress. Spain has it's own internet and language subculture, Germans and Russians too, Chinese and Japanese as well, French too. So now I am expected to learn Spanish, German, French, Russian, Chinese and Japanese fluently just so I could speak to those people instead of them just learning English? I'd be open to all of us learning a common language like Esperanto, but I don't see a big push for it. And for the record, English is not my first language. I'm also not opposed to learning languages, I am learning one now because I live in a non-English speaking country that isn't my own. I also speak a little Spanish and I did five and two years of Italian and German, respectively. But I have no illusions that without years of intense study and immersion I could get close to a level in those languages where I can understand their scientific literature. Most people don't have time for that. We can analyse history for why English is the dominant language but crying about spilled milk isn't going to change the fact that for now we're stuck with English. You can get with the times, or continue complaining that Chinese scientists only learned English and not every language on the planet.
>>1334 "The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers: Economic Change and Military Conflict from 1500 to 2000" by Paul Kennedy is a decent materialist analysis of this question. Free download of the book: https://b-ok.cc/book/1202051/0a82b6 The tl;dr answer is that the geopolitical fragmentation of Europe and constant wars helped to spur technological innovation (that has uneven benefits for different places, ex. Britain benefits more than Portugal from coal mining techniques used to drive steam engines). Colonizing countries generally didn't get wealthy due to their colonial conquests, colonial conquest was generally the result of an economic and technological gap between Britain and the Mughals, for example, that had been growing for some time.
>>1477 >Yeah so India has a low literacy rate compared to the rest of the world and somehow that proves how all the scientific advances made by the the rest of the world are unfair? How about India's literacy rate and scientific lack of achievement have the same underlying cause. Yes, they do, which is the comparative underdevelopment of India, something only as recent as the last couple hundred years. If your argument is that this is due the inherent nature of Indian genetics then I encourage you to walk into the cafeteria of any large tech company or university in the United States.
it doesn't matter because IQ fluctuates with each generation based on environmental factors on pregnant women. the reason the Mesopotamian got to civilization first is because they were on the fertile crescent, where farming was easy as fuck and they had loads of surplus resources to feed the brains of their offspring. there are also events in history where women undergo poverty due to some geopolitical event and then their children come out brainlets. basically IQ is epigenetic
>>1459 Are you sure it’s not 97% female

italian vs spanish political catholicism Comrade 06/13/2020 (Sat) 16:51:51 No. 1922 [Reply] [Last]
I'm reading Dylan Riley's [Civic Foundations of Fascism](https://b-ok.cc/book/5440703/4e76ad) and liking it quite a bit, but one thing that comes out pretty clearly is that while political Catholicism in Italy before and shortly after WWI had an independent and relatively "leftist" streak - lots of independent workers organizations and so on, probably most people reading this are familiar with the PSI/PPI alliance that might have been able to weather through the fascist threat if they could agree over some smaller stuff - Spanish political Catholicism was much more uniformly reactionary and under the direction of local landowners. And this happens despite obvious similarities between the countries - semiperipheral position in world-economy, historical catholicism obviously, very old "republican" associational traditions in the big cities, a liberal political system organized around clientelism and smoke-filled rooms. When I (or Riley for that matter) try to think of why political Catholicism in Italy would turn against the system, I think of things like "well the state built its power by crowding against the church, which in turn believed it was going to get wiped out by a cabal of freemasons" but that's obviously true of Spain as well, which IIRC actually built up even more bad blood with land reform and so on. And if I think of why they'd be dependent in Spain it's things like "well big landowners used the church to control peasants," and it's not clear why that wouldn't be true in Italy as well - in fact Riley emphasses how in each case local notables organized each initially, but then they became independent in Italy by the 1890s and never really in Spain. Maybe it's just something like "Italy had higher literacy rates and it's that much easier to self-organize?" But of course it's not like illiterate peasants never get mobilized by the left either.

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Time Travel Comrade 05/27/2020 (Wed) 21:43:43 No. 1786 [Reply] [Last]
What can you guys tell me about "Time Travel"?
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I was born in and come from the future, and it does not like pretty. which is why I'm here.
>>1787 I will tell you about it when I travel into the past when you were 5. Just wait
In a way, going to the future is possible if you move at relativistic speeds. Going to the past would require moving at above the speed of light.
>>1786 worst movie plot

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Yugoslavia and post Yugoslav states Q&A Comrade 04/30/2020 (Thu) 08:34:00 No. 1420 [Reply] [Last]
Yugoslavia was the only "eastern bloc" country that was almost entirely liberated by the domestic communsit led anti-fascist coalition. They wanted to follow the Soviet model, but due to some ComInform (ex Comintern) tensions, Stalin excluded them and after 1948 they strated to look for their own path in building socialism and they came up with self-management - the workers voted in the managers, voted on employing new people, what the created value will be used on etc. However, they never really found a good way to trade goods between companies so they re-implemented the market where goods between companies and between companies and consumers were traded. They also had strong relationship with various 2nd and 3rd world countries and helped them out a lot (they worked on importan construction projects in Iraq, Syria, Egypt etc. etc.), and many foreign students came to study in Yugoslavia (people from Congo, Sudan, Algeria, Iraq etc. etc.) In the 70s they borrowed money from the World bank which fucked them at the end of the 70s and start of the 80s (debt crisis) which gave rise to ugly nationalism which eventually destroyed the country and re-introduced a wild capitalism.
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>>1458 Because citizens of Yugoslavia never had a "Yugoslav" national identity. The regime in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia pushed very hard for a unified Yugoslav state and nation, but failed miserably. Post war socialist Yugoslavia was from the start a federal state in which Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Macedonia were federal states. And Kosovo, while not a federal state, had the status of an autonomous region. A Slovenian writer once said in 1913: by blood we are brothers, by language we are cousins, but by culture, which develops over centuries, we are further apart than a Slovenian peasant is from a (German) peasant in Tirol (Austrian region).
>>1472 >A Slovenian writer once said in 1913: by blood we are brothers, by language we are cousins, but by culture, which develops over centuries, we are further apart than a Slovenian peasant is from a (German) peasant in Tirol (Austrian region). Typical Slovenian. I love how dead on Yugo stereotypes are. That's why the jokes are funny, cause they're all true.
>>1484 This. Also it's funny how "typical Slovenian" comes from presumably a Croat or Serbian - your guys really are crazy nationalist fanatics
>>1472 >muh mitteleuropa
>>1458 uneven development caused diverging consciousness; "yugoslavization" is a thing, and you can see it today even moreso with the euroregion policy. my impression was that the serbs were the most vested in the yugoslav identity and considered themselves yugoslavs until the ouster of milosevic and even some time after that.

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English DPRK Lit. Archive Comrade 06/07/2020 (Sun) 20:30:37 No. 1863 [Reply] [Last]
Here's a google drive I found full of documents, biographies, reports, counterprop and theory for Juche, Songon and just about everything else DPRK: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B48PXBn7S_-MMVlaZjlrOEdKWFk There is notably some very recent documents from as late as last year, including the theoretical work of Kim Jong Un. Everything (I have seen) in here is in English. (If you are (rightly) wary of Google here, know that you can view and download these files through a Tor browser.) Anyone got anything else DPRK-related they don't see here that they'd like to archive?
Official DPRK website full of documents in several languages: http://www.korean-books.com.kp/en/

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Comrade 06/09/2020 (Tue) 07:39:05 No. 1882 [Reply] [Last]
What can I learn fron Grundrisse that I can't learn from Capital?
it has a funny name, you'll look smarter if you cite it
>>1894 based

Comrade 06/09/2020 (Tue) 16:17:54 No. 1891 [Reply] [Last]
Anybody know some good readings on the idea that we cannot change ideas without changing their material origins

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/space/ Comrade 06/07/2020 (Sun) 01:15:19 No. 1859 [Reply] [Last]
The history of space travel. I want all material, factoids, trivia, books on space. From Sputnik to the recent Crew Dragon and further beyond

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Sun Yat-sen Comrade 06/05/2020 (Fri) 00:31:55 No. 1839 [Reply] [Last]
Can someone redpill me about this dude?
He was a bourgeois revolutionary and anti-imperialist who founded the KMT. He corresponded with Lenin who considered him a peer even though he wasn't an communist. Sun Yat Sen's socialism was built off of Henry George, not Karl Marx. He's one of the only political figures beloved on both sides of the Taiwan straight. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Principles_of_the_People

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Marx didn't think mining was labour? Comrade 06/04/2020 (Thu) 21:15:53 No. 1837 [Reply] [Last]
-value is generated by labour Alright. -because money is represetative of value, it allows people to hoard value. Yes. >As the production of commodities further develops, every producer of commodities is compelled to make sure of the nexus rerum or the social pledge. [41] His wants are constantly making themselves felt, and necessitate the continual purchase of other people’s commodities, while the production and sale of his own goods require time, and depend upon circumstances. In order then to be able to buy without selling, he must have sold previously without buying. This operation, conducted on a general scale, appears to imply a contradiction. But the precious metals at the sources of their production are directly exchanged for other commodities. And here we have sales (by the owners of commodities) without purchases (by the owners of gold or silver). What? If selling is the trade of use-value with exchange-value represented by money, then to say that selling something to a miner isn't selling is wouldn't either mean that A)mining doesn't generate value, even though it's human labour B)precious metals don't have value, which in turn doesn't add up to either option A nor with out precious metals became money-commodity to begin with?

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>B)precious metals don't have value, which in turn doesn't add up to either option A nor with out precious metals became money-commodity to begin with? Nor with how precious metals Fucking autocorrect
Marx is talking about using precious metals as money. Buying: money form -> commodity form Selling: commodity form -> money form But if you are mining "money", at the point it enters circulation it is not yet in money form, since you produce it as a commodity to be exchanged for concrete use-values. For you it is commodity form -> commodity form. But for the person you exchange it with, it will be already in money form, therefore for them it is commodity form -> money form, i.e. selling. If you have only buying and selling, the amount of money in circulation couldn't grow. This is how it grows anyway.


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